[05:08] <pitti> Good morning
[06:52] <jibel> Good morning
[06:56] <jibel> pitti, Good morning
[06:56] <pitti> bonjour jibel, ça va ?
[06:56] <jibel> pitti, ça va et toi?
[06:56] <pitti> jibel: ça va bien ! j'ai eu un week-end calm
[06:57] <jibel> pitti, me too. Visit to the museum with the kids on Saturday and long walk along the "baie du mont saint michel" yesterday afternoon
[06:59] <jibel> pitti, I saw you restarted apport, but it's likely that it will fail again because last upload of dpkg removed /usr/sbin/dpkg-divert
[06:59] <pitti> eh?
[06:59] <jibel> pitti, in 1.17.0
[07:00] <pitti> I still have it
[07:00] <pitti> oh, in -proposed?
[07:00] <jibel> yes in proposed
[07:00] <pitti> that sounds like a critical regression
[07:00] <jibel> Remove update-alternatives, dpkg-divert and dpkg-statoverride
[07:00] <jibel>     compatibility symlinks under /usr/sbin/.
[07:01] <pitti> that's fine, but it should still be under /usr/bin/
[07:01] <jibel> yes of course, I haven't verified
[07:03] <jibel> but apport uses the absolute path to /usr/sbin/
[07:03] <pitti> oh
[07:03] <jibel> pitti, also, the new CI lab has networking issues
[07:03] <pitti> jibel: thanks for pointoing out
[07:03] <pitti> jibel: yeah, it's being installing dependencies for an hour; ftpmaster is sloooooooow
[07:03] <pitti> (or rather, the connection to it)
[07:04] <jibel> pitti, and all the provisioning of VMs fails because of that :/
[07:05] <jibel> pitti, I'll ask CI but not sure I'm welcome on this channel anymore :)
[07:05] <pitti> lol
[07:07] <jibel> pitti, othe failures, in linuxinfo, I proposed a patch to Debian which has been synced back to Ubuntu
[07:07] <jibel> pitti, and doxygen fails because gpg sends a warning to stderr
[07:07] <jibel> pitti, this is because keys are not installed in the testbed
[07:08] <jibel> pitti, I think I'll install debian-keyring by default
[07:08] <jibel> there was the same error with pbuilder IIRC
[07:08] <pitti> argh
[07:08] <pitti> jibel: fixed dpkg-divert path in apport trunk, I'll do an upload ASAP
[07:09] <jibel> good to see autopkgtest is sometimes useful :)
[07:31] <jibel> as expected, I hailed them, no response :/
[07:39] <pitti> jibel: boost the signal and rotate the frequencies!
[07:39] <pitti> and divert power from the auxiliary captain's seat heating
[07:43] <DanChapman> good morning all
[07:45] <elfy> morning DanChapman
[07:45] <elfy> I assume you've not got that mail from me yet then :)
[07:46] <DanChapman> elfy good morning, it would appear not :-(
[07:46] <DanChapman> I'll see if i can get it sorted today
[07:46] <elfy> odd
[07:46] <DanChapman> indeed very odd
[09:35] <DanChapman> xnox, hey hope you had a good weekend :-) Where can I create bugs for the autopilot tests, do i just file them against the ubiquity package as lp:ubiquity doesn't track bugs? if so could you add an autopilot tag which i can tag them with
[09:37] <xnox> DanChapman: yes. file bugs only against the ubuntu package, and tag them autopilot (as otherwise they will be hard to find in the bug flood there)
[09:38] <DanChapman> xnox, excellent, thanks.
[11:01] <slickymaster> good morning all
[11:02] <slickymaster> balloons: ping
[11:03] <DanChapman> morning slickymaster o/
[11:03] <slickymaster> hi DanChapman, how are you?
[11:03] <DanChapman> slickymaster, i'm great thanks :-) yourself?
[11:04] <slickymaster> great also DanChapman, thanks
[15:21] <balloons> slickymaster, did you ping sometime this morning?
[15:24] <slickymaster> hi balloons, yes
[15:24] <slickymaster> balloons: it concerns https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1251332,
[15:25] <slickymaster> balloons: after some digging around, what I was able to find out is that there's no proposed replacement for either gksu nor for gksudo in Ubuntu. Apparently what is being advised is the use of pkexec, which is not a graphical frontend for sudo but a graphical frontend for PolicyKit.
[15:25] <slickymaster> balloons:  so, IMO, that's leave us with two choices, regarding it, either we instruct users to install gksu in their system or we advise them to run sudo -i in a terminal in order to get a root prompt and then launch whatever graphical application needed
[15:26] <slickymaster> balloons: after discussing it with knome we felt like I should ask you what you think?
[15:28] <balloons> slickymaster, I discussed this with elfy a bit as well. You are correct in that there is no direct replacement, but the consensus seemed to be use sudo
[15:28] <elfy> -i
[15:28] <slickymaster> hi elfy
[15:28] <elfy> hey
[15:29] <slickymaster> balloons, elfy, so the general idea is to use sudo -i to get to a root prompt and there launch whatever graphical application, right?
[15:30] <elfy> seems so
[15:30] <elfy> goes against the grain for many people - after years of them saying no no no - don't use sudo for gui apps
[15:30] <slickymaster> okie dokie, I'll re-write chapter 7 of xubuntu-docs and will propose a merge
[15:30] <slickymaster> thanks guys
[15:32] <cgoldberg> balloons, hey.. did you see my Ubuntu Touch Core Apps video?  it's pretty neat:  http://coreygoldberg.blogspot.com/2013/11/gource-visualization-of-ubuntu-touch.html
[15:33] <balloons> cgoldberg, ohh a fresh one.. nice!
[15:33] <balloons> slickymaster, elfy yep.. heh..
[15:33] <cgoldberg> it's all the core apps together.
[15:33] <balloons> cgoldberg, OHH.. I get it now
[15:33] <balloons> all at once
[15:34] <cgoldberg> yup
[15:39] <elopio> good morning!
[15:39] <cgoldberg> hey elopio
[15:39] <elopio> hey balloons, the delete list item fix landed yesterday.
[15:39] <elopio> balloons: I'll need more info about the tabs not being open by name. Why do they don't have an objectName set?
[15:39] <elopio> cgoldberg: hello.
[15:39] <balloons> elopio, hello!
[15:40] <balloons> elopio, they aren't set with an object name because they are dynamically generated  I believe
[15:40] <balloons> specifically we're talking about rss reader. a tab is made for each topic? after you make it
[15:43] <elopio> balloons: yes, I get that. But I would hope even for dynamically generated tabs to be added with an objectName. Even like objectName='londonTab' would help.
[15:43] <elopio> balloons: if it's failing currently in trunk, I can check in the evening.
[15:43] <balloons> elopio, let me know when you take a look and I'll have a look again. I didn't want to rush into filing a bug on it till I got your opinion
[15:44] <balloons> perhaps there is something we can do in the qml, etc...
[15:45] <elopio> balloons: ok, after lunch I hope to get some time.
[15:45] <elopio> now I'm trying to merge all the SDK branches from two weeks ago.
[16:36] <cking> any idea why I'm seeing each article twice on http://qa.ubuntu.com ?
[16:38] <balloons> cking, that seems to creep up a lot
[16:40]  * elfy didn't even know that page 
[16:41] <cking> balloons, it's certainly a little weird, bit ironic really
[16:41] <balloons> I believe it's just my feed that does it
[16:42] <elfy> cking: seems like a good idea to me - I have trouble getting anyone to take any notice of what I say :)
[16:42]  * elfy starts sending mails twice :p
[16:43]  * balloons switched the feed settings again
[16:43] <balloons> how's it look now?
[16:45] <cking> balloons, yay, fixed :-) thanks
[16:46] <slickymaster> bbl
[16:55] <balloons> elfy, lol @ sending duplicate mails
[16:56] <balloons> I'll judge the response and then possibly send again if it's not good enough, lol
[16:56] <elfy> :D
[17:20] <dkessel> good evening
[17:23] <balloons> dkessel, evening to you
[17:24] <dkessel> today is inofficial lubuntu qa evening ;)
[17:25] <balloons> dkessel, ohh nice..
[17:25] <balloons> what's on the agenda?
[17:25] <balloons> dkessel, you going to be able to make any vUDS sessions?
[17:26] <dkessel> balloons, package testing - the qa tracker tests are sooo empty...
[17:26] <dkessel> balloons, no i won't... have to work
[17:26] <elfy> same here dkessel
[17:27] <elfy> though I was expecting to not be, but got called in
[17:27] <balloons> dkessel, ahh gotcha
[17:27] <balloons> yea, it's so hard to find a time for everyone, because we are all across the world
[17:27] <dkessel> elfy, well I did not take a day off, which I would have to...
[17:28]  * balloons waves to doug5 
[17:28]  * dkessel looks up testdrive bugs... searches "UI unresponsive after clicking save button in settings"
[17:28] <doug5> balloons, hello! sorry man, still bit busy :(
[17:29] <balloons> doug5, no worries at all. I think between the two mp's we've done we have a quasi working solution. I have a quick patch to make to file manager, then onto calendar :-)
[17:29] <balloons> it
[17:30] <doug5> balloons, ahah I link "quasi" working solution :)
[17:30] <doug5> *like
[17:31] <balloons> doug5, very technical wording :-)
[18:00] <dkessel> anybody using testdrive, feel free to confirm bug 1252402 ;)
[18:01] <senan> balloons,hi
[18:01] <balloons> senan, hello
[18:02] <senan> balloons, is there any way to disable autocomplete in gtkfilechooserentry
[18:02] <balloons> dkessel, I can try on trusty.. oO you are on trusty too :-)
[18:02] <senan> balloons, when I type /home, it will complete /home/senan
[18:02] <balloons> senan, ahh ok I understand what you mean
[18:03] <balloons> I know at one point we simply overwrote the text completely and typed in our own full path
[18:03] <senan> assertion will fail there..what I type is not equal to what I get
[18:03] <DanChapman> senan just do self.mouse.press_and_release('Delete') at the end of typing
[18:03] <DanChapman> :-)
[18:04] <balloons> ^^ even better than what I was going to propose
[18:04] <senan> DanChapman, I thought you are offline
[18:04] <balloons> dkessel, for me I didn't even have to sync. just open settings and hit save. don't even change anything
[18:04] <senan> :)
[18:04] <balloons> it locks up
[18:04] <DanChapman> senan ive just got home :-)
[18:04] <dkessel> balloons, yeah i switched shortly after you asked my if i'm on trusty :)
[18:04] <dkessel> balloons, "great" :)
[18:06] <balloons> I wonder if it's giving any output on the command line
[18:06] <balloons> I also wonder if it's old config issue
[18:06] <balloons> let me try deleting my config first
[18:07] <balloons> dkessel, config files are in /etc/testdriverc, ~/.testdriverc and ~/.config/testdrive/testdriverc
[18:07] <dkessel> ...and it gets stuck configuring the virtualbox machine... once again... :/
[18:08] <dkessel> balloons, ok i'll try deleting them
[18:08] <senan> DanChapman, its self.keyboard.press_and_release right
[18:09] <balloons> DanChapman, ty.. you ready for UDS mate?
[18:09] <balloons> dkessel, I'm doing the same
[18:09] <dkessel> i left /etc/testdriverc and deleted the config in ~ ... stays the same
[18:09] <DanChapman> lol yeah it is senan sorry :-)
[18:10] <dkessel> terminal output: /usr/bin/testdrive-gtk:190: Warning: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.38.1/./gobject/gsignal.c:2475: signal 'child-added' is invalid for instance '0x180ac30' of type 'GtkMenu'
[18:10] <dkessel>   self.appindicator.set_menu(self.app_indicator_menu)
[18:10] <balloons> dkessel, yep, no change
[18:11] <balloons> probably could add that terminal output to the report.
[18:13] <dkessel> balloons, did that
[18:15] <balloons> dkessel, well jackson will be around in a few most likely.. but you are also free to hack on fixing it I'm sure :-p
[18:16] <dkessel> nah, i want to get up and running with the lubuntu tests... i have limited time
[18:23] <DanChapman> balloons, I am indeed. I won't be able to go to many sessions tomorrow as its my little ones 2nd birthday, I plan to make to make the community workflow session and a couple of the later ones. But weds and thurs I'm sorting my timetable now :-)
[18:27] <jibel> DanChapman, I merged the 2 pending MPs you submitted and fixing pep8 to add autopilot/ to run-pep8 and use the ~same style than the rest of the code.
[18:28] <balloons> dkessel, ahh.. heh, finding a bug before you even start eh?
[18:28] <jibel> DanChapman, also, the server that run ubiquity tests is still down, I hope it'll be back soon
[18:28] <dkessel> balloons, business as usual...
[18:29] <dkessel> "lubuntu nexus7 session"? =)
[18:43] <DanChapman> jibel, brilliant thanks :-) yes It will be good to get them running again, so will run-pep8 run when using ./debian/rules clean?
[18:43]  * DanChapman goes to check for himself :-)
[18:44] <DanChapman> jibel, not to worry i see it does pyflakes and pep8 :-)
[18:48] <balloons> hey Noskcaj :-) dkessel and I were just talking about a new bug in testdrive dkessel discovered
[18:49] <Noskcaj> yeah?
[18:49] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1252402
[18:49] <balloons> do you have saucy or you on trusty Noskcaj ?
[18:50] <Noskcaj> trusty
[18:50] <balloons> elopio, so if the swipe to delete is landed, I'm wondering why this still fails: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/use-default-swipe-delete/+merge/191905
[18:51] <Noskcaj> It might just be the startup freeze bug, which i'm not sure how to fix. Can you leave testdrive open for 2-3 minutes first?
[18:52] <balloons> Noskcaj, sure.. I'll leave it open for a few mins right now and try
[18:52] <Noskcaj> You probably would have noticed the startup issue already though
[18:52] <elopio> balloons: I suppose the latest toolkit is not yet on the image or PPA that test uses.
[18:53] <elopio> I added a catch explicitly for that case.
[18:53] <balloons> elopio, ok fair enough..
[18:58] <dkessel> next bug: 1252421
[19:00] <balloons> dkessel, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gnumeric
[19:00] <dkessel> balloons, ... yes?
[19:01] <balloons> dkessel, just thought it would be helpful to see.. indeed yelp doesn't seem to be listed unless it's a depends of depends, etc
[19:01] <dkessel> maybe it once used evince to display the help... just guessing
[19:02] <dkessel> i definately like the speed of lubuntu... wow
[19:13] <dkessel> lol... no i even get an endless apport loop while trying to report a crash bug...
[19:15] <dkessel> balloons, is it correct to file a bug for "lightdm" if this here fails?: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds/55992/testcases/1603/results
[19:16] <dkessel> it does not tell me the package...
[19:17] <jibel> DanChapman, it will but currently run-pep8 doesn't scan autopilot, I'll add that once it's pep8 compliant :)
[19:18] <thomi> jibel: autopilot is pep8 compliant...
[19:18]  * balloons holds his breath
[19:18] <balloons> dkessel, yes.. and should it be labeled better?
[19:19] <dkessel> balloons, probably :)
[19:19] <jibel> thomi, I should have written autopilot/ . I was talking about autopilot tests of ubiquity not autopilot itself :)
[19:20] <thomi> jibel: oh, ok then - just making usre :)
[19:21] <thomi> jibel: that confuses me *all the time* :)
[19:22] <balloons> dkessel, I changed to just "lightdm
[19:26] <dkessel> bye-bye thunderbird...
[19:26]  * dkessel sighs
[19:28] <dkessel> hm, unsure about the package for bug 1252435
[19:29] <dkessel> three new critical bugs... should i really continue? :D
[19:29] <balloons> bye bye thunderbird?
[19:31] <balloons> dkessel, I know lubuntu has a big cycle ahead of them! they are going to be an lts for the first time, that's the goal
[19:31] <balloons> and the longer term plan is to switch from gtk to qt ;-)
[19:31] <dkessel> balloons, yes the first LTS... that's actually why i thought i should start testing today...
[19:32] <dkessel> thunderbird just crashed without a notice...
[19:32] <dkessel> balloons, I have problems with a testcase: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1619/info
[19:32] <balloons> ahh.. sounds like a lot of lubuntu specific stuff.. it works for me.. I use it everyday as my cliebt
[19:33] <balloons> dkessel, sure, what's the issue?
[19:33] <dkessel> balloons - there is no search box ;) Click on "Search a package" field. Fill in "gedit" and hit enter
[19:33] <dkessel> A list with search results appears
[19:34] <elfy> dkessel: if there is a bug with a testcase - report it - noting which testcase ID - I check them - even ones that aren't my responsibility
[19:34] <dkessel> elfy, ok... against what do i report?
[19:34] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug
[19:34] <dkessel> ok
[19:35] <dkessel> elfy, nvm ^
[19:35] <balloons> hehe.. I tried to be fast
[19:35] <balloons> thanks dkessel !
[19:35] <elfy> just make sure to actually put the testcase ID or I'll mark it wishlist :D
[19:36] <dkessel> balloons, or could it be a bug with the software center not having a search option?
[19:37] <dkessel> that feels like a bug actually...
[19:37] <balloons> that's a lubuntu specific question so I don't know the answer off the top of my head
[19:37] <balloons> is phillw about?
[19:37] <elfy> I'd no know either - nor be able to check quickly - I broke vbox :p
[19:38] <dkessel> elfy - hmm, I can file my testcase bug as a reminder to check ;)
[19:38] <elfy> dkessel: file it :)
[19:38] <balloons> dkessel, file it and mark it as affecting testcases and the package
[19:39] <balloons> we can sort of which is which and mark the other invalid ;-)(
[19:39] <dkessel> bug 1252438, there you go
[19:41] <balloons> dkessel, excellent
[19:52] <dkessel> balloons, unsure about the verification step here: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1601/info
[19:52] <balloons> which verification step?
[19:52] <dkessel> "The terminal shows the name "qa-lubuntu"" question: as window title, or as tab title?
[19:55] <dkessel> balloons ^
[19:56] <balloons> mm.. indeed, it's ambigious. I'd file something to get that cleaned up
[19:57] <dkessel> gnome-terminal renames the whole window...
[19:57] <balloons> dkessel, afaik it should change both, because the window title displays the tab title
[19:57] <balloons> but I don't use lxterminal
[19:57] <dkessel> balloons, we got a bug then :)
[19:57] <balloons> this might be a dual filing again :-)
[19:58] <dkessel> meh :)
[19:58] <balloons> it's good to point these out for the lubuntu folks.. they know what they mean, but we don't :-)
[19:58] <dkessel> ok last bug report for today...
[20:04] <dkessel> elfy, bug 1252451 with test ID 1601 included ;)
[20:04] <dkessel> ok thats it for tonight....
[20:05] <elfy> dkessel: you don't need to ping me with them I'm subscribed to manual testing bugs :)
[20:06] <elfy> but thanks anyway :)
[20:06] <dkessel> elfy, alright
[20:06] <dkessel> good night :)
[20:06] <elfy> night
[20:20] <balloons> hello Letozaf_
[20:20] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi
[20:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, but is the test_add_remove_feed_and_topic rssreader test failing or is it just because the dashboard is running the old versions ?
[20:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/
[20:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, still the old version
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh fine, was worried :P
[20:23] <balloons> tomorrow fingers crossed the new stuff will hit the dash :-)
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, cool can't wait
[20:52] <balloons> Letozaf_, what's your improved script to test click apps again?
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, I copied it here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6439472/
[20:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, it's handy for testing on device
[20:56] <balloons> Letozaf_, ty
[20:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, yw