[00:49] <TechieElf> Can anyone help me get SMS and calling/mobile data working on my port?
[03:06] <Guest6938> Hi, How can I install Ubuntu/ubuntu touch on MID A13 Tablet Generic
[04:58] <RedPandaFox> Im having trouble attempting to port for my Samsung p3110. When running breakfast it cant locate the codename even tho it is apparently supported by CM10.1
[07:31] <dholbach> good morning
[07:32] <dpnabais> hello
[09:23] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, ping
[09:24] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: hey ho
[09:26] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, hey, I’m looking at https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa and wondering why there’s no 1.4 version of libautopilot-qt
[09:27] <mzanetti> oSoMoN:
[09:28] <mzanetti> 1.4+14.04.20131106.1-0ubuntu1 0
[09:28] <mzanetti>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[09:28] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: the ppa shouldn't be needed any more afaik
[09:28] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, sorry, I meant for saucy
[09:34] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, I got the packages from the trusty archive and installed them manually on my saucy desktop, but there’s gotta be a cleaner way
[09:35] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: yes. I agree
[10:32] <cwayne_> bzoltan, ping
[10:32] <bzoltan> cwayne_: hello there
[10:32] <cwayne_> bzoltan, heya, how's it going?
[10:33] <cwayne_> bzoltan, was just trying to add a new template to the sdk for a simple webapp, was wondering if you had any comments :) https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/webapp-template/+merge/195274
[10:35] <bzoltan> cwayne_:  Mmmm, templates... I like templates
[10:36] <cwayne_> bzoltan, once we get account-plugins as clicks, I'll make a template for that too :)
[10:36]  * cwayne_ loves templates
[10:37] <bzoltan> cat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwCq0VYGtQ | s/donuts/templates/'
[10:38] <cwayne_> hahah
[10:41] <cwayne_> tmoenicke, ping
[10:44] <tmoenicke> cwayne_: pong
[10:45] <cwayne_> tmoenicke, hey, so I had been trying to get pinyin working on a trusty build last week and was unable to do so, is there some upcoming fixes to the keyboard for that?
[10:48] <tmoenicke> cwayne_: what was the problem?
[10:48] <bzoltan> cwayne_: How different/better is your webapp template from the cordova templates: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/trunk/files/head:/share/qtcreator/templates/wizards/ubuntu/cordovaubuntu/
[10:49] <cwayne_> tmoenicke, no matter what settings i changed, i never got chinese characters to show up in predictive text
[10:49] <cwayne_> even if the only enabled language was zh_cn_pinyin
[10:50] <tmoenicke> cwayne_: did you use trunk keyboard?
[10:50] <cwayne_> bzoltan,  well cordova apps are actual HTML5 apps AIUI, while mine is just for making a webapp like this: http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/webapp/packaging-web-apps/
[10:50] <cwayne_> tmoenicke, no, i used what was in the image
[10:51] <tmoenicke> cwayne_: should work with latest trunk and the instructions from the wiki page
[10:51] <cwayne_> bzoltan, so mine is for like packaging up 'webapps' for already-mobile-enabled sites basically
[10:52] <cwayne_> tmoenicke, can we get trunk (or at least pinyin support) into the image?  there's no reason someone demoing this for china should need to branch and build trunk
[10:55] <bzoltan> cwayne_:  So it is more like a shortcut app template, right?
[10:55] <cwayne_> bzoltan, exactly, yeah
[10:56] <bzoltan> cwayne_: I guess you know that the manifest files are created by the QtC when packaging the app
[10:58] <bzoltan> cwayne_: is not this "--webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.%DISPLAYNAME%.com/* http://m.%DISPLAYNAME%.com" a bit too specific? Like do you want to us it only for .com sites with m. names?
[11:00] <cwayne_> bzoltan, well i was thinking this would be the most common one, but since app.desktop is listed as mainfile it's opened and easily editable
[11:00] <cwayne_> bzoltan, i suppose we could just make it something generic that's obvious to the user to replace
[11:02] <bzoltan> cwayne_:  That one would make sense in my view ... I like this super simple template, for the reason that it is super simple. But I am not sure if it should contain the .json files
[11:03] <cwayne_> bzoltan, ah yes, that's what i wanted to ask you about, how are the other ones created?
[11:04] <cwayne_> bzoltan, and i think it makes sense to create app.json, because that won't even need to be edited by the user, that can pretty much always stay the same
[11:04] <t1mp> will phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty-proposed give me a working image if I run it now?
[11:05] <popey> yes
[11:05] <popey> FSVO "working"
[11:12] <bzoltan> cwayne_:  those files are created by the QtC plugin ... you do not have to add them to the template, does not hurt, but 100% redundant ... I think it is safer to handle these files at one place, so if the manifest file structure changes we do not need to fix the same thing in different places.
[11:13] <cwayne_> bzoltan, ah, fair enough. is that true for app.json as well? (the apparmor profile), or just manifest.json
[11:13] <bzoltan> cwayne_:  both
[11:14] <cwayne_> bzoltan, really? but this uses a specific apparmor profile template
[11:16] <bzoltan>  cwayne_: Is not it the same as the default from the QtC http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/trunk/view/head:/src/ubuntu/myapp.json.template
[11:17] <cwayne_> bzoltan, it's slightly different in that it has "template": "ubuntu-webapp",
[11:17] <cwayne_> bzoltan, to be completely honest, i don't know if that's needed or not, but it is ever-so-slightly different because of it
[11:18] <bzoltan>  cwayne_:  it would be good to know if that template field is used and if yes then where and how
[11:19] <AskUbuntu> Can I Switch Shells On Ubuntu Touch? | http://askubuntu.com/q/378811
[11:19] <cwayne_> jdstrand, hiya, are you the one to ask still for all questions apparmor?
[11:20] <t1mp> popey: okay, thanks I'll try it. I just need to test some new packages to see if they don't break anything. I don't have to do important stuff like make a phone call :)
[11:21] <cwayne_> bzoltan, i'll investigate and see what i can find, in the meantime, i've removed the manifest.json and updated the MR :)
[11:22] <bzoltan> cwayne_:  cool, thanks
[11:36] <cwayne_> bzoltan, so it seems removing that line, the webapps themselves still work
[11:36] <cwayne_> but all of the pre-installed webapps have that template, so i'm not super-keen on removing it
[11:37] <bzoltan>  cwayne_:  the real fix should be to ad support for this field in the QtC ...
[11:39] <cwayne_> bzoltan, hm, yes i suppose so
[11:39] <cwayne_> that's a bit above my head though :)
[11:44] <cwayne_> bzoltan, seems like it should be left in, that template provides more control over webbrowser-app
[11:49] <cwayne_> tmoenicke, do you know when the next scheduled release of ubuntu-keyboard is? i assume there might be a vUDS session on it?
[11:59] <cwayne_> stgraber, ping (once you're around)
[12:03] <AskUbuntu> Use WiFi connection on Nexus 4 | http://askubuntu.com/q/378828
[12:14] <tmoenicke> cwayne_: need to check
[12:15] <tmoenicke> cwayne_: there is a session tomorrow at 6PM UTC
[12:23] <cwayne_> tmoenicke, which one? none of those particularly jump out as being for keyboard..
[12:25] <cwayne_> mardy, hey, did that fix for empty access_token get pushed into trusty?
[12:25] <tmoenicke> cwayne_: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/track/appdev/
[12:26] <mardy> cwayne_: I think so, let me check
[12:29] <mardy> cwayne_: nope, let me check why...
[12:31] <mardy> cwayne_: it was merged to trunk yesterday night. Then I guess it will hit the archives soon. https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/signon-plugin-oauth2/packaging/+merge/195030
[12:32] <arunkumar413> can i install ubuntu touch on any android device
[12:32] <cwayne_> mardy, great! thanks
[12:33] <mardy> arunkumar413: no, see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Supported_devices_and_codenames
[12:44] <zsombi> guys, I have some concerns about the SIM PIN query
[12:46] <zsombi> the issue I see there is that we automatically accept 4 digits and continue to unlock the SIM, which contradicts of some ETSI specs as the SIM PIN can be up to 8 digits long, and you have to have an explicit confirmation button for it
[12:49] <arunkumar413> How to pory ubuntu to a new android mobile
[12:54] <zsombi> tvoss: ^^
[12:55] <ogra_> zsombi, i think thats rather a question for design ...
[12:55]  * ogra_ is sure the current unlock process will change and be integrated in a proper lock screen this release
[12:56] <ogra_> (we simply dont have the plumbing layer for lock/unlock in place yet, the existing PIN unlock is a compromise to enable graphical unlocking at all)
[12:59] <zsombi> mzanetti: sire, pingum
[12:59] <mzanetti> zsombi: shoot
[12:59] <zsombi> mzanetti SIM PIN entry
[13:00] <zsombi> mzanetti: was it a design request to accept 4 digits there only? and auto-accept PIN code?
[13:01] <zsombi> mzanetti: just managed to lock my SIM card...
[13:01] <mzanetti> zsombi: yes. but after some discussions I managed to convince design that we need to change that. fix is committed and now that jenkins is back I hope we'll get it released within this week
[13:01] <mzanetti> :/
[13:02] <zsombi> mzanettI: next time point 'em to ETSI specs :) we must be able to enter up to 8 digits
[13:02] <mzanetti> yeah, I know
[13:02] <mzanetti> zsombi: the new implementation has an ok button to confirm when you're done
[13:02] <mzanetti> zsombi: that said: the lockscreen (phone, not SIM) won't have that and will be limited to 4 digits :/
[13:03] <zsombi> mzanetti: also, in case of failure we should show the number of remaining trials until the SIM gets locked
[13:03] <ogra_> ++
[13:03] <zsombi> mzanetti: :(
[13:03] <ogra_> thats extremely important
[13:03] <mzanetti> zsombi: we can't properly show the remaining attempts as our nice android layer down there doesn't offer that
[13:04] <zsombi> hehh???! damn...
[13:04] <mzanetti> well, it does somewhat give us the remaining attempts after a failed one on the galaxy nexus. but doesn't seem to give us anything on the Nex 4
[13:04] <zsombi> crap
[13:04] <mzanetti> but good point. let me bug awe if there is some progress there...
[13:05] <zsombi> mzanetti but yes, for both SIM PIN and Phone Lock there should be able to enter a max 8 digits code
[13:05] <mzanetti> zsombi: I totally agree. but unfortuantely for the phone lock there isn't any spec which would give me a better position in discussions with design
[13:06] <mzanetti> zsombi: according to them it's too cumbersome to press ok after entering the pin
[13:06] <zsombi> mzanettI: then we will fail FTA from the first minute
[13:06] <mzanetti> zsombi: ogra_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1206941 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1240939
[13:08] <ogra_> mzanetti, well, it shouldnt be hard for the frontend to know that you mistyped it and have an internal counter
[13:08] <zsombi> ogra_ it's not that simple
[13:08] <ogra_> after all a wrong PIN should still dump you back to the unlock screen
[13:08] <mzanetti> ogra_: nope. not going to work
[13:09] <mzanetti> ogra_: what if you enter a sim with only one attempt left?
[13:09] <zsombi> ogra_ that should survive a power-down/power-up and a SIM change too
[13:09] <ogra_> you mean we dont get the info that the PIN is valid/invalid ?
[13:09] <mzanetti> ogra_: we'll tell people they still have 3 and break their SIM card
[13:09] <mzanetti> ogra_: we get that info. but that doesn't let us determine the amounts left
[13:10] <mzanetti> why can't I assign that bug to tony?
[13:10] <mzanetti> sometimes I don't really get launchpad
[13:10] <sergiusens> mzanetti, if it's an ubuntu bug it's somewhat different than a project bug
[13:11] <mzanetti> seems so
[13:11] <sergiusens> mzanetti, as a workaround, I'm sure ogra_ can assign the bug
[13:11] <ogra_> mzanetti, assigned
[13:11] <mzanetti> thanks
[13:28] <cwayne_> who generally does reviews for upstart-app-launch?
[13:28] <cwayne_> sergiusens, ^
[13:35] <sergiusens> cwayne_, that would be ted
[13:35] <cwayne_> gah
[13:35] <cwayne_> sergiusens, what if ted is the one that proposed the merge :P
[13:41] <sergiusens> cwayne_, maybe Wellark then
[13:42] <sergiusens> cwayne_, oh, or charles
[13:42] <cwayne_> Wellark, hey, got a sec for a MR?
[13:42] <cwayne_> charles, or you :) ^
[13:45] <Wellark> cwayne_: what mr?
[13:47] <cwayne_> Wellark, https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/upstart-app-launch/xdg-data-dirs/+merge/194981
[13:48] <cwayne_> Wellark, that will allow us to have translated click apps :)
[13:49] <Wellark> cwayne_: I'm afraid I haven't got the required upstart-fu to properly review that mr :/
[13:50] <cwayne_> Wellark, ah crap, no worries, thanks for checking it out anyway :)
[13:51] <Wellark> cwayne_: maybe charles as he has review most of the previous mr's
[13:51] <Wellark> he should be online in couple of hours
[13:51] <cwayne_> Wellark, awesome, thanks!
[13:51] <Wellark> cwayne_: you can drop him an email to get his attention right when he logs in
[14:43] <gabriel> hello anybody can help me installing ubuntu phone?
[14:44] <mzanetti> MacSlow: been missing you in #ubuntu-unity
[14:44] <MacSlow> mzanetti, doh... wonder how that was removed from my default channel config in xchat... fixed not thanks
[14:47] <gabriel> hello
[14:48] <popey> gabriel: wassup?
[14:49] <gabriel> hey... im  trying to install ubuntu phone... could you help me?
[14:51] <popey> gabriel: what device are you installing on?
[14:52] <gabriel> samasung galaxy nexus S
[14:52] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install has details of the install process for nexus and non-nexus devices
[14:56] <Myrtti> Galaxy Nexus or Nexus S?
[14:56] <Myrtti> instructions unclear, stapled hand to the floor
[15:00] <gabriel> hello
[15:01] <popey> gabriel: Continued greetings.
[15:02] <gabriel> I try to install in a Nexus S....
[15:02] <popey> gabriel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[15:02] <popey> have you read that?
[15:03] <gabriel> yeah but the problem is when i try to install... the terminal said
[15:03] <gabriel> INFO:phablet-flash:Device detected as crespo
[15:03] <gabriel> ERROR:phablet-flash: Unsupported device, autodetect fails device
[15:04] <gabriel> so apparently is not working in nexus S
[15:04] <popey> is crespo listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Supported_devices_and_codenames ?
[15:14] <dobey> wasn't the nexus5 only released last week?
[15:15] <sergiusens> dobey, S != 5 :-)
[15:17] <dobey> google really needs to reevaluate their device naming and how one name has like 13 different devices associated with it
[15:17]  * ogra_ looks forward to the Nexus 5S
[15:17] <ogra_> :P
[15:18] <Myrtti> dobey: yes, that is definitely different to how Linux distributions do it
[15:18] <Myrtti> ahem Ubuntu
[15:18] <ogra_> (and in ten years you will have a Nexus 55 ... )
[15:19] <dobey> Myrtti: eh? ubuntu 13.10 is ubuntu 13.10.
[15:19] <Myrtti> and also saucy, Saucy Salamander, stable, etc.
[15:19] <dobey> code names is one thing
[15:19] <ogra_> Myrtti, after release the codenames arent used anymore (at least officially)
[15:20] <dobey> ogra_: well, they are used in the archive URLs and such
[15:20] <dobey> ogra_: so they are used officially :)
[15:21] <dobey> but yeah, there aren't 13 wildly different pieces of hardware that we call "ubuntu 13.10"
[15:21] <dobey> unlike say "galaxy nexus III"
[15:21] <ogra_> dobey, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[15:21] <dobey> ogra_: one web page is not the entirety of officialness of ubuntu :)
[15:21] <ogra_> you wont find any official mentioning of the codenames on official pages ...
[15:22]  * Myrtti puts her head back in the bush and apologises for stirring the beehive
[15:22] <ogra_> just because there is an alias in a download path on a server that points to the same thing, doesnt mean it is official
[15:22] <ogra_> Myrtti, lol
[15:22] <dobey> ogra_: launchpad isn't official?
[15:22] <ogra_> launchpad is a dev tool
[15:23] <ogra_> my mom doesnt use it
[15:23] <dobey> launchpad is a core part of community interaction for ubuntu
[15:23] <ogra_> but she uses ubuntu 12.04 ...
[15:23] <ogra_> (and doesnt know what a pangolin is)
[15:23] <dobey> that's great
[15:23] <ogra_> developer community, sure
[15:24] <ogra_> endusers ... not so much
[15:24] <dobey> no
[15:24] <dobey> anyone who files a bug
[15:24] <dobey> or uses a PPA
[15:25]  * ogra_ knows we once had a wikipage about official naming guidelines ... i cant find it anymore ...
[15:28] <charles> sergiusens, Wellark, I'll pick up the review
[15:39] <msvb-lab> There are some 'Openstack QA' and similar QA sessions for the Ubuntu Summit (tomorrow.)
[15:39] <msvb-lab> Can we get a Ubuntu Touch QA in there as well?
[15:39] <msvb-lab> I think folks will have questions regarding touch and it's progress, or how to do things, what to expect, etcetera.
[15:46] <rsalveti> mhall119: ^
[15:48] <mhall119> msvb-lab: we'll have app development roundtables for anything related to apps and the SDK
[15:49] <mhall119> there's also things like http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22084/unity8-shell-discussion/ for Unity 8 itself
[16:16] <msvb-lab> mhall119: Okay, I'll try to visit those sessions.
[16:17] <cwayne_> stgraber, ping
[16:17] <msvb-lab> Do you or anyone else know of a way to get a few finished (with graphics) slides for presentation basis?
[16:21] <stgraber> cwayne_: pong
[16:22] <cwayne_> stgraber, now that jenkins is back up, can we switch trusty-[proposed]-customized to pull from here? http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/sevilerow-trusty/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/
[16:23] <stgraber> cwayne_: let me see if they updated the firewall rules too, last I checked that wasn't the case
[16:23] <stgraber> cwayne_: nope, still can't connect to that address
[16:30] <cwayne_> stgraber, hmm, who do we need to poke to fix?
[16:31] <stgraber> cwayne_: I'd recommend poking the CI guys (retoaded, ev, ...) as they said they'd take care of coordinating required FW changes with IS (and that clearly didn't happen, at least for nusakan)
[16:32] <cwayne_> ev, ^
[16:33] <ev> stgraber, cwayne_ : what firewall rules do you need, exactly?
[16:35] <mandel_> barry, ping
[16:35] <barry> mandel_: hi!
[16:35] <mandel_> barry, hello!
[16:36] <stgraber> ev: nusakan to s-jenkins on port 8080
[16:38] <ev> stgraber: proposing a branch for the fix now
[16:44] <om26er> should we not be using trusty-proposed ?
[16:51] <om26er> ricmm, question since you seems to be a contributor of powerd. is there a way to get the current state of screen through the dbus api ?
[16:51] <om26er> what I see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/powerd only suggests how to request states but there is not way to inquire of the current state
[16:55] <ricmm> om26er: I think there is no way to check the display state
[16:56] <ricmm> also, powerd thinks in terms of "display hold requests"
[16:56] <ricmm> what exactly are you after, there might be a better way to do it
[16:56] <ricmm> do you want to know if the screen itself is off? or if powerd has no standing display requests -> will sleep
[16:57] <om26er> ricmm, I am writing a script to unlock screen before running autopilot tests using phablet-test-run. If the user turns off the display with the power button there is no way to turn on the screen with these api's so I would like to print that "hey you need to turn on the display" for you tests to run
[16:58] <ricmm> om26er: the power button does more than turning off the display, it puts the phone to sleep
[16:58] <om26er> other wise people will just keep waiting for the test suite to run only knowing at the end that they failed.
[16:58] <ricmm> if however you are connected through console it will hold it awake, but some systems will go down
[16:58] <ricmm> one of them being the display controller
[16:59] <om26er> ricmm, I was thinking of something similar to what happens when a call comes. as it overrides any locks and turns on the screen. Is there something similar I could use for my case to turn on the screen ?
[17:18] <casket69> who is here to help me
[17:19] <casket69> i want to inatall ubuntu touch on my archos xenon 80
[17:20] <casket69> aanyone?
[17:38] <xperiaM> hy
[17:39] <xperiaM> how to install ubuntu touch on my xperia M
[17:39] <xperiaM> can help me
[17:39] <popey> !devices | xperiaM
[17:45] <robotfuel> sergiusens: ping
[17:45] <xperia> not found for xperia M
[17:45] <sergiusens> robotfuel, pong
[17:46] <robotfuel> sergiusens: are you the person I talk to about landing this? https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/phablet-tools/run-test-without-autopilot/+merge/194920
[17:46] <sergiusens> robotfuel, yeah, didn't I claim the review?
[17:46] <sergiusens> robotfuel, have a bunch to land later tonight
[17:47] <robotfuel> sergiusens: no you did not claim it yet
[17:47] <didrocks> barry: btw, I acked your landing slot in case you didn't see it
[17:49] <sergiusens> robotfuel, done
[17:52] <robotfuel> sergiusens: thanks
[18:02] <robru> sil2100, cyphermox, kenvandine: anybody else having issues with phablet-test-run? seems to me like it successfully installs the -autopilot package but then just hangs, it won't run the test
[18:03] <sil2100> robru: didn't try phablet-test-run in the last week, so sadly no idea...
[18:04] <robru> sil2100, yeah, it's my first time in a week after all the outages...
[18:48] <robru> elopio, kalikiana_, I'm seeing some test failures with ubuntu-ui-toolkit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1252416 can you take a look?
[18:56] <cwayne> charles: ping
[19:11] <taiebot> Anyone who could tell me the answer of the level 4 of riddling. I have been stuck on this level for a month now.
[19:13] <kenvandine> taiebot, i won't tell you the answer, but i will give you a hint :)
[19:22] <taiebot> OK no problem
[19:24] <taiebot> Still has to google as i am not native...
[19:51] <elopio> robru: I'm sorry, I'm busy now with another project.
[19:51] <elopio> if you still haven't found the cause in 3 hours, I can take a look.
[19:51] <robru> elopio, hmmm well already kenvandine can't reproduce the issue. i'm trying it again after reflashing.
[20:04] <ozurek> hi
[20:05] <ozurek> i want install ubuntuphone on my smartphone
[20:06] <ozurek> who can help me
[20:06] <ozurek> someone speaking spanish?
[20:19] <robru> elopio, hmmm, seems the tests have passed now. quite flaky though, one time I got 61 failures.
[20:35] <kenvandine> robru, i had it pass 3 times in a row
[20:35] <kenvandine> after the first failure
[20:36] <kenvandine> mhall119, did you get past #24 yet?
[20:42] <cwayne_> kenvandine, hey, any chance you could review this MR? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/upstart-app-launch/xdg-data-dirs/+merge/194981
[20:44] <kenvandine> cwayne_, top approved
[20:45] <mhall119> kenvandine: I haven't gotten past #20 yet :(
[20:45] <kenvandine> el paso has killed me... i've lost motivation to continue guessing
[20:45] <elopio> robru: when you get 61 failures is because the app couldn't open.
[20:45] <elopio> well, *it's likely* because of that.
[20:46] <robru> elopio, hmm. ken also had 88 failures, once. but then it was fine
[20:46] <elopio> robru: currently we can't tell from autopilot if the app is open or not. But once they add some missing bits to mir, we will be able to give a better error message
[20:47] <kenvandine> elopio, first run i had 88 failures, i rebooted the device and all passed
[20:47] <elopio> about the reason why it won't open, that goes beyond my understanding of mir and autopilot.
[20:47] <cwayne_> kenvandine, thank you!
[20:47] <kenvandine> cwayne_, np
[20:47] <elopio> kenvandine, robru: it would be nice if you can keep an eye to this. If you get so many failures but you still see qmlscene opening correctly, please let me know.
[20:48] <kenvandine> elopio, it definately opened for me
[20:48] <kenvandine> i saw it running through some stuff
[20:48] <kenvandine> but i didn't watch it closely
[20:48] <robru> elopio, yeah, it opened and did some stuff, at least for a few tests. didn't watch the whole way
[21:11] <elopio> hum, then I'll need more time to debug this
[21:26] <charles> cwayne_: pong
[21:35] <cwayne_> charles, was just gonna ask about an MR, but I see you've reviewed it already :)
[21:36] <charles> cwayne_, :)
[21:36] <charles> k
[21:40] <cwayne_> stgraber, heya, any chance on a top-approve here? https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu/trusty/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/no-hardcoding-user/+merge/194004
[21:42] <stgraber> cwayne_: it's not a CI managed package so top approve won't do anything. I'll do another review and upload to the archive.
[21:42] <cwayne_> stgraber, oh, thanks! sorry, i didn't realize it wasn't CI'd
[21:43] <cwayne_> stgraber, it's in the landing asks sheet btw, let me know when you upload and I can mark it done :)
[21:44] <stgraber> cwayne_: if I wanted to be picky, I'd complain that this will blow up in very interesting ways should a user's home directory contain a space
[21:44] <alexk> hi
[21:45] <alexk> does anyone know how to setup ubuntu touch to run an application on startup?
[21:45] <cwayne_> stgraber, hm, fair point.  easiest way to get around that?
[21:45] <alexk> specifically, on the GUI
[21:45] <cwayne_> can you even have a username with a space?
[21:48] <stgraber> cwayne_: for user in user-data/*; do cp test "$user/"; done
[21:48] <stgraber> cwayne_: I'll do the changes
[21:49] <cwayne_> stgraber, ah, duh, thanks
[21:50] <stgraber> cwayne_: updated version of the diff, can you please test this on a device both with a single phablet user and with a "test test" user?
[21:50] <stgraber> cwayne_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6439734/
[21:50] <stgraber> I know this will work for the cp, but I'm not 100% sure the rest is fine, so would be nice to confirm before landing
[21:52] <cwayne_> stgraber, sure, building it now
[21:55] <robotfuel> doanac: ping
[21:55] <doanac> robotfuel: hey there.
[21:55] <robotfuel>  doanac do you have time to look at a MP? I really need it to land. https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/phablet-tools/run-test-without-autopilot/+merge/194920
[21:56] <doanac> robotfuel: i can look, but i don't have top approval for that project
[21:56] <robotfuel> doanac: do you know who does?
[21:57] <robotfuel> doanac: I pinged you because I saw your name in the bzr log :P
[21:57] <doanac> robotfuel: sergiusens does most of the work on phablet-tools these days
[21:57] <robotfuel> doanac: okay thanks
[22:01] <cwayne_> stgraber, adduser won't let you add a user with a space in the name..
[22:03] <stgraber> cwayne_: sure but adduser won't prevent you having a space in the homedir AFAIK
[22:03] <stgraber> cwayne_: 'adduser --home "/home/test test" test' worked great here
[22:04] <cwayne_> stgraber, hmph, im even having trouble adding a user.. groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later.
[22:05] <stgraber> cwayne_: you'll need to remount / rw
[22:05] <cwayne_> gah
[22:05] <cwayne_> sorry, a bit dumb today..
[22:10] <cwayne_> stgraber, looks okay.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6439828/
[22:10] <stgraber> cwayne_: yep
[22:13] <stgraber> cwayne_: uploaded
[22:13] <stgraber> cwayne_: note that you'll need an android no change rebuild to pick it up
[22:16] <cwayne_> stgraber, how often do those generally happen?
[22:16] <robotfuel> sergiusens: please try to get to https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/phablet-tools/run-test-without-autopilot/+merge/194920, if you can today. I need it to land for mir's CI tests. It's getting late in the day for me, so it's my last chance to bug you :)
[22:17] <sergiusens> robotfuel, even if I approve it, it has to go through a full blown landing plan/landing asks
[22:18] <robotfuel> sergiusens: ack, let me know what I can do to speed up the process.
[22:18] <pmcgowan> mhall119, popey last session slot tomorrow has several key Qt and sdk discussion same time
[22:19] <mhall119> pmcgowan: which sessions?
[22:19] <pmcgowan> the appdev and the core sessions
[22:19] <pmcgowan> mhall119, maybe we can divide and conquer
[22:19] <mhall119> I see the HTML5 one on appdev, and a qt reconciliation one on core
[22:20] <mhall119> which don't sound like they'll have a lot of overlap
[22:20] <stgraber> cwayne_: not very often, I can upload one once initramfs-tools-ubuntu-tuch is done building
[22:20] <pmcgowan> mhall119, plus click store, and the corss compilation core one
[22:20] <cwayne_> stgraber, wonderful thanks!  btw i don't suppose those firewall issues have been fixed?
[22:21] <pmcgowan> mhall119, maybe I am just interested in them all :)
[22:21] <mhall119> that could be :)
[22:21] <pmcgowan> mhall119, dont worry, too tricky to sched
[22:22] <mhall119> I don't see the cross-compiling one thoug
[22:22] <pmcgowan> mhall119, no its actually something else, developer mode
[22:31] <AskUbuntu> failed to install phablet-tools on 12.04 | http://askubuntu.com/q/379107
[22:35] <cwayne_> pmcgowan, any idea what project i would log url dispatcher bugs to?
[22:35] <cwayne_> man do i have bad timing
[22:36] <mhall119> cwayne_: https://launchpad.net/url-dispatcher ?
[22:36] <cwayne_> i could've sworn i'd tried that
[22:36] <mhall119> when in doubt, s/\ /-/ :)
[22:36] <cwayne_> anyway, thanks mhall119
[22:36] <mhall119> np
[22:36] <cwayne_> hah
[22:43] <AskUbuntu> How to show mouse cursor on 14.04 Nexus 7 #mobile | http://askubuntu.com/q/379113
[22:59] <anders3408> mhall119:  any update on building system images for none nexus devices ?  i really want to get oppo find5 proper :)
[23:12] <mhall119> anders3408: what do you mean?
[23:41] <anders3408> mhall119:  i mean , nexus devices uses system-images, that should be added so other devices can do the same thing , build those ourself.