[02:49] <grantbow> .
[02:52] <pleia2> meeting in 8 minutes :)
[02:54] <pleia2> was hoping philip would be here to chat about scale
[02:55]  * pleia2 tweets at him
[02:57] <grantbow> hey phil!
[02:57]  * pleia2 wins at the internet
[02:57] <grantbow> +1 pleia2
[02:58]  * philipballew waves
[02:58] <philipballew> yeah, if you ever want to reach me, tweeting at me goes to my phone, laptop, and email.
[03:00] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[03:00] <pleia2> ok, who all is here for our meeting?
[03:00]  * eps waves
[03:00] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13November17
[03:00] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13November17 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:00] <grantbow> o/
[03:01] <raevol> aaah am i too late?
[03:01] <raevol> are we #ubuntu-meeting?
[03:01] <pleia2> we are here, raevol
[03:01] <pleia2> #topic vUDS this week
[03:01] <raevol> hello!
[03:01] <pleia2> #link http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[03:01] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Developer Summit]
[03:02] <pleia2> so no more in person UDS :( but virtual UDS is this week
[03:02] <pleia2> starts bright and early at 7:05AM our time, that'll be fun :)
[03:02] <philipballew> Tuesday iirc.
[03:02] <pleia2> #link http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/
[03:02] <darthrobot> Title: [UDS November 2013 19 Nov - 21 Nov 2013 | The Summit Scheduler]
[03:02] <pleia2> yep, Tues-Thurs
[03:02] <raevol> work hours for me :( urg
[03:02] <pleia2> I'll be attending a few in the community track
[03:03] <pleia2> raevol: yeah :\
[03:03] <philipballew> I need to find a place to attend and what ours I can attend still but should pop in when I see a worthwhile track.
[03:03] <eps> Such as ...? Looks like it's all Touch this, Touch that. :-(
[03:04] <pleia2> eps: QA stuff, LoCos, Ubuntu Women
[03:04] <pleia2> #link http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/track/community/
[03:04] <darthrobot> Title: [Community Schedule - UDS November 2013 | The Summit Scheduler]
[03:04] <pleia2> ^^ that's the community track
[03:04] <grantbow> when registering it still asks about physical vs. remote, lol
[03:04] <eps> I see a golden opportunity being missed ... how to close Bug #1 for real.
[03:05] <pleia2> classroom sessions, docs roundtable, and limiting surveillence looks interesting
[03:05] <raevol> i'd love to go to that QA workflows one, but there's no way
[03:05] <philipballew> eps, Good point, can I send you the link for starting a session?
[03:05] <pleia2> philipballew: the schedule is set now, the due date for submitting a session was weeks ago
[03:05] <philipballew> pleia2, This is correct.
[03:06] <pleia2> anyway, all the videos of sessions will be automagically archived on youtube following the sessions, so you can watch later if you want
[03:06] <pleia2> which is an improvement to past in-person UDSes at least ;)
[03:07] <pleia2> particularly the ones in europe that had sessions at 1AM
[03:07] <grantbow> 1AM pacific :-)
[03:07] <pleia2> eps: I did want to mention, this project exists: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu
[03:07] <darthrobot> Title: [StartUbuntu - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:07] <pleia2> eps: since you were interested in the XP EoL thing, that project seeks to address it
[03:08] <grantbow> rolling stones music too?
[03:08] <philipballew> might be a good project to tackle eps :)
[03:09] <pleia2> #topic scale12x
[03:09] <raevol> hey
[03:09] <pleia2> philipballew: I know you said we'd start planning around thanksgiving, but folks are starting to buy tickets, do we have a promo code again?
[03:09] <pleia2> promo code for discount, not free booth workers
[03:09] <raevol> so a thing i wanted to bring up about SCaLE, the past 2 years we've said it'd be nice to have literatuyre to hand out about common ubuntu questions like "what if i don't like Unity"
[03:10] <raevol> can we make some plans to write/print some of that? i'd love to be involved
[03:10] <pleia2> raevol: sure!
[03:10] <philipballew> pleia2, We should yes. I was going to send out some emails about this the week after next. I can do that sooner though.
[03:10] <philipballew> Anytime after Tuesday.
[03:10] <pleia2> philipballew: I think sooner would be better, eps brought this up at the ubuntu hour this week
[03:10] <pleia2> cool
[03:10] <philipballew> pleia2, I will do my best to do that this week
[03:11] <pleia2> thanks :)
[03:11] <grantbow> I created a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x but it needs a copy and paste from last year.
[03:11] <grantbow> to begin
[03:11] <darthrobot> [404] Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:11] <pleia2> yeah, can someone take care of that? then we'll add raevol's idea too
[03:12] <pleia2> if I can make it to scale, I hope to bring along some xubuntu fliers too
[03:12] <raevol> :D
[03:12] <grantbow> phil, want me to copy and paste from last year to begin?
[03:12] <pleia2> (which means we need to finish writing xubuntu fliers :))
[03:12] <eps> If we have demo systems in the booth, there's no reason they can't have multiple desktop environments installed.
[03:12] <philipballew> grantbow, yes please!
[03:12] <grantbow> phil, will do
[03:13] <pleia2> thanks grantbow
[03:13] <philipballew> I am going to be working on handouts and stuff to give away as well.
[03:13] <raevol> another topic it'd be good to have literature on is the shopping lens, and i think it'd be awesome if we had a lot of concerete technical information about what it does, and what happens when you shut it off, especially as a non-direct reply to fixubuntu
[03:13] <pleia2> philipballew: oh good, can you work with raevol on that?
[03:13] <raevol> but we can discuss literature outside this meeting
[03:13] <pleia2> raevol: yeah, maybe even something simple like a screenshot of the off switch ;)
[03:13] <raevol> pleia2: ;D
[03:13] <grantbow> phil, done.
[03:14] <grantbow> it needs editing
[03:14] <philipballew> pleia2, yeah, It might be me and raevol driving up in the car full of swag possibly.
[03:14] <raevol> philipballew: let's schedule a SD ubuntu hour when your school calms down and we can use that to work on this some?
[03:14] <pleia2> philipballew: sweet
[03:14] <raevol> PARTY BUS FROM SAN DIEGO
[03:14] <pleia2> richard is working on getting ubucon together, he said he has all speakers slotted already
[03:14] <pleia2> haha
[03:14] <raevol> i still want to do my OpenMW talk at SCaLE but i need to get my paper proposal in :(
[03:14] <eps> You should focus on emphasizing the positive ... just be prepared to deal with the trolls.
[03:15] <pleia2> raevol: yes! Cfp closes in december I think
[03:15] <pleia2> eps: +1
[03:15] <raevol> eps yea we just find that we answer a lot of the same questions every year, so if we just had literature to give them it'd expedite that...
[03:15] <philipballew> I am going to Ubuntu user from Tijuana help possibly, so we will have a translator in case someone speaks Spanish is better.
[03:15] <raevol> grantbow: do you know when the CFP closes offhand? i can look it up if not
[03:15] <pleia2> 15th? I can check
[03:15] <philipballew> about a month from now
[03:16] <grantbow> pleia2, thanks
[03:16] <pleia2> 15 Dec, 2013: Deadline for abstracts/proposals submissions
[03:16] <philipballew> I know my Christmas break will be spent all on SCALE stuff.
[03:16] <raevol> yea 15th
[03:16] <raevol> thanks
[03:16] <pleia2> but sooner is always better :) more eyeballs on proposals that come in early
[03:16] <pleia2> I sent mine in ages ago
[03:16] <raevol> yea i just need time to write it :(
[03:16] <grantbow> pleia2: on openstack?
[03:16]  * philipballew will only be speaking ubucon this year so there is that.
[03:17] <pleia2> grantbow: well, systems administration I do on the openstack project
[03:17]  * grantbow nods
[03:17] <pleia2> so not directly openstack itself
[03:17] <philipballew> My talk on "why switching to arch was the greatest decision of my life" was turned down for Ubucon for some reason.
[03:17] <pleia2> ok, sounds like we're in a good space for scale then
[03:17] <pleia2> haha
[03:18] <raevol> philipballew: xD hahaha
[03:18] <philipballew> pleia2, If the booth workers want, we can get some Ubuntu shirts printed for them. or see if we can get some Ubuntu shirts sent out?
[03:19] <pleia2> philipballew: hmm, maybe scope out some t-shirt vendors and see if we can get sponsorship for them?
[03:19] <pleia2> either sponsored from the vendor, or request community funds from canonical
[03:19] <raevol> i'll pay for a shirt if i can keep it
[03:19] <pleia2> but we'd need solid prices
[03:19] <philipballew> pleia2, Yeah, I am gonna see what I can get for free first
[03:19] <pleia2> maybe print them for ubucon speakers too
[03:19] <philipballew> then prices.
[03:20] <philipballew> pleia2, Seems like a good option.
[03:20] <eps> T-shirts are expensive in short runs.
[03:20] <raevol> i wonder if i could get my dad to print some... the design would have to be simple though
[03:20] <pleia2> we need an artistic person to make us a good, simple design
[03:21] <philipballew> I'm gonna see what I can score for free as well.
[03:21] <pleia2> ok, after meeting I'll update the wiki with these ideas
[03:21] <pleia2> thanks philipballew
[03:22] <pleia2> #topic Any Other Business
[03:22] <pleia2> berkeley ubuntu hour coming up on the 21st (last day of vUDS!) http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2528-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/
[03:22] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:23] <pleia2> if my cold has subsided, I might go out to stay in the UDS spirit ;)
[03:23] <grantbow> hurray buug.org
[03:23] <eps> (obligatory complaint about mixed content on lists.ubuntu.com)
[03:23] <pleia2> mixed content?
[03:24] <grantbow> mixed?
[03:24] <eps> http content on a forced https page
[03:24] <pleia2> oh, heh
[03:24] <eps> It's a bad thing.
[03:24] <philipballew> eps, the world cant be perfect
[03:25] <philipballew> :)
[03:25] <eps> The world doesn't have to be perfect. Just the front-facing parts.
[03:25] <pleia2> that's something to take up with canonical IS, we don't have any control there
[03:25] <pleia2> tickets can be submitted to rt@ubuntu.com
[03:26] <pleia2> anyone else have any loco stuff before we wrap up?
[03:26] <raevol> wait
[03:26] <pleia2> go for it
[03:26] <philipballew> CA LOCO IS BEST LOCO!
[03:26] <raevol> i'm updating the scale page, should i remove the whole "stuff we need" section, or keep it?
[03:27] <pleia2> up to philipballew
[03:27] <raevol> just saved the page with the date changes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x#preview
[03:27] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale12x - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:27] <pleia2> if we accidentally delete anything, it's a wiki, we can bring it back :)
[03:27] <raevol> philipballew: take a look at it for "stuff we need" and "volunteers" section, you can keep me on there
[03:28] <raevol> k that's all from me :)
[03:28] <pleia2> thanks raevol
[03:28] <grantbow> #topic Annual Elections
[03:29] <pleia2> oh right, I forgot about elections
[03:29] <grantbow> who wants to volunteer to run an election?
[03:29] <raevol> what are the elections for?
[03:30] <pleia2> CA leadership, we change every year, right now it's me, grantbow and philipballew
[03:30] <grantbow> it says annual somewhere
[03:30] <raevol> cool
[03:30] <eps> I nominate darthrobot, Eureka, and R2Pi2
[03:30] <pleia2> the first skynet loco
[03:30] <raevol> i nominate pleia2, grantbow, and philipballew
[03:31] <pleia2> grantbow: sounds like we need to take this to the list (so we can hear crickets there too :P)
[03:31] <grantbow> ok, sounds good
[03:31] <pleia2> then I'll just make someone do it
[03:31] <pleia2> voluntelling++
[03:31] <raevol> i don't think i have time to run an election, but what is involved? or i can just look for the info on the list
[03:32] <pleia2> do a call for nominations, collect nominations, set up a poll in launchpad, close it announce winners
[03:32] <raevol> D:
[03:32] <raevol> that sounds like something that i would not have the time for :(
[03:32] <pleia2> ok
[03:32] <raevol> srys
[03:32] <pleia2> we'll find someone :)
[03:32] <pleia2> maybe make jyo do it
[03:33] <pleia2> or YokoZar, he loves polls
[03:33] <grantbow> lol
[03:33] <pleia2> ok, thanks all :)
[03:33] <pleia2> excited for scale already!
[03:34] <raevol> me too!
[03:34] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[03:34] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Nov 18 03:34:06 2013 UTC.
[03:34] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2013/ubuntu-us-ca.2013-11-18-03.00.moin.txt
[03:34] <raevol> we should have an ubuntu CA loco toast or something
[03:34] <raevol> at scale
[03:34] <grantbow> thanks pleia2
[03:34] <raevol> yea thanks pleia2
[03:34] <pleia2> we did a team dinner at denny's one scale, that was a lot of fun
[03:34] <raevol> that'd be cool too
[03:35] <pleia2> should do again :)
[03:35] <raevol> last year i was mostly following jorge around
[03:35] <raevol> hahahhaa
[03:35] <pleia2> hehe
[03:36] <grantbow> raevol did you have a question about a reg code for scale?
[03:36] <pleia2> ok, back to tackling this cold by giving it as much rest as possible ;)
[03:36]  * pleia2 nap &
[03:37] <grantbow> philipballew where do we get our discounts? :-)
[03:37] <raevol> grantbow: yea, i asked philipballew, but the question is, anyone know if the UBUCO code from last years's wiki page will be good this year> or should we delete that part?
[03:37] <raevol> nn pleia2
[03:37] <eps> pleia2: have some hot tea ;-)
[03:37] <grantbow> anyone tried it yet?
[03:38] <grantbow> when does registration open?
[03:38] <eps> It already has
[03:38] <raevol> wait, who's the guy who runs SCaLE?
[03:38] <grantbow> hmm, opened Sept 22nd
[03:39] <grantbow> there are several
[03:39] <raevol> grantbow: for some reason i thought you ran SCaLE hahaha
[03:39] <grantbow> no way
[03:39] <grantbow> I've not been able to be involved in scale much
[03:39] <raevol> huh
[03:40] <grantbow> There's Gareth and Ilan among others involved like Larry.
[03:40] <raevol> GARETH
[03:40] <raevol> that's who i have you mistaken for
[03:40] <grantbow> I'm not that tall, lol
[03:40] <philipballew> Alright, Im off to go get a California Burrito.
[03:40] <raevol> gareth, grant, basically the same thing...
[03:41] <raevol> philipballew: JUST ATE ONE
[03:41] <raevol> i'm also off
[03:41] <philipballew> raevol, Lucky!
[03:41] <raevol> bother me about the booth literature, when i get time i'd be down to draft a few
[03:41] <raevol> ttfn
[03:43] <grantbow> dinner time, cya
[03:46] <bkerensa> pleia2: I would be happy to buy the LoCo drinks at Scale
[03:46] <bkerensa> :)
[16:58] <raevol> 'morning
[17:46] <kdub> hello raevol
[17:46] <raevol> sup kdub!
[17:52] <kdub> nothing much... the usual mir stuff, you?