[00:02] <jrwren> i used to live next to or at Beacon Hill apts. near there.
[00:05] <gamerchick02> cool
[02:18] <rick_h_> phew, sure is windy. Adjusted stuff on the back deck. Hopefully everything stays put and the trees all stay upright
[02:18] <jrwren> VERY windy.
[02:19] <jrwren> OMG< you just made me scared that the cotton wood out back is going to fall on my house.
[02:31] <gamerchick02> it's insane windy
[02:31] <gamerchick02> i'm surprised the power hasn't gone out
[03:04] <cmaloney> I'm grateful it hasn't gone out yet.
[03:19] <cmaloney> OK, going to power off. Not taking any chances.
[03:20] <gamerchick02> so am i.
[05:23] <waf> power on, forever. i like to live dangerously.
[11:53] <rick_h_> hah woot
[11:53] <rick_h_> everything here survived well enough. Grill cover in the neighbor's yard, and movd the car topper storage thing off the deck
[11:54] <rick_h_> but better than I thought. I was expecting some tree limb fall'age pretty bad
[14:05] <cmaloney> Yeah, we managed to not have a whole lot of crazy in the front yard.
[14:16] <brousch> Apparently enough power is out that my son's school is closed
[14:20] <cmaloney> Wow.
[14:31] <ColonelPanic001> the signal light at Woodward and the I-94 service drive is out
[14:31] <ColonelPanic001> nothing very unusual about that though, that's about a quarterly event
[14:35] <brousch> Mostly we just had a lot of deep road puddles due to leaf-choked storm drains
[14:56] <rick_h_> yea, I've got to clear my drain out again after yesterday
[15:26] <cmaloney> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2013-November/006555.html
[15:27] <cmaloney> If anyone is interested.
[15:49] <jrwren> grill cover was off here too, but the ties on 1 side were still there.
[16:52] <cmaloney> I <3 it when I whang my head on my cubicle
[16:52] <cmaloney> seriously I have no idea how I did this
[16:53] <cmaloney> sitting down, hit my head on the shelf
[16:55] <greg-g> skillz
[16:55] <cmaloney> mad ones at that
[16:56] <brousch> I'm not sure how I should read "whang my head"
[16:58] <cmaloney> Make loud noise with my head upon the shelf of my cube.
[16:58] <cmaloney> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whang
[16:59] <cmaloney> The whang of chung. ;)
[16:59] <cmaloney> Which apparently mean s "Yellow Bell" in Mandarin Chinese and is the first note of the Chinese classical scale
[17:00] <cmaloney> Thank you, Wikipedia, the only Wiki I want to use.
[17:02] <brousch> Too bad it's PHP :(
[17:02] <greg-g> you don't need to care about that
[17:03] <brousch> Unless I want my own wiki
[17:33] <waf> man, http://osrc.dfm.io is pretty cool
[17:33] <waf> they've updated it since last time I looked, adding 'friend' relations
[17:34] <waf> it detected that i should be friends with cmaloney
[17:34] <waf> then when i clicked on cmaloney's name, it said "It seems like Craig is—or should be—friends with Rick Harding. With this in mind, it's worth noting that Rick is more of a Python aficionado."
[17:38] <rick_h_> lol http://osrc.dfm.io/mitechie
[17:38] <rick_h_> "It seems like Rick is-or should be-friends with Craig Maloney"
[17:38] <rick_h_> that's awesome
[17:38] <cmaloney> http://osrc.dfm.io/craigmaloney
[17:38] <waf> "Rick seems to be a pretty serious Python expert"
[17:39] <cmaloney> OK, I think this thing is on crack
[17:39] <waf> really? i think it's pretty accurate
[17:39] <waf> no magic going on, it's easy to figure out the algorithm
[17:39] <waf> but still cool
[17:39] <cmaloney> ;)
[17:40] <rick_h_> lol at 9pm
[17:40] <rick_h_> boy goes to bed by 8 and now it's hacking time
[17:41] <rick_h_> top 45% of active python users? /me is a little reality checked
[17:41] <cmaloney> Dude you are a focusing machine
[17:41] <cmaloney> You shine with laser-like precision
[17:41] <rick_h_> If you had asked me I'd have figured I'd be top 25%
[17:41] <cmaloney> I feel like disco-ball by comparison.
[17:42] <rick_h_> but then again, it's not picking up work stuff in launchpad/bzr, not that it should count as it's not a lot of more useful stuff
[17:43] <cmaloney> WEll, and you've balanced a lot between Javascript and Python
[17:43] <rick_h_> true
[17:43] <cmaloney> You're not 100% Python, so it probably counts against that score.
[17:43] <rick_h_> it's all good :) just noting of the things in there that jumps out
[17:43] <waf> i bet if it ran a linter on the code it'd bump you up a bit
[17:43] <cmaloney> I'll note that I don't have any percentage. ;)
[17:44] <cmaloney> hah
[17:44] <cmaloney> or pep8.
[17:44] <rick_h_> well it's active as well. It's counting LoC and such
[17:44] <cmaloney> There is also an obvious connection between Craig and Will Fuqua, allan bailey, Sean Vieira, and rhokk
[17:44] <rick_h_> heh, /me forces to close window and not look up everyone else mentioned as being similar to
[17:45] <waf> haha, i already did that for myself. i've yet to follow them, though
[17:46] <cmaloney> I think the noon-time comment on mine is related to the Bookie sprint. ;)
[17:46] <rick_h_> hah
[17:47]  * cmaloney wonders when he pushed to a Java repo
[17:50] <rick_h_> wow! http://r.bmark.us/u/c35b8efb1c1197
[17:53] <cmaloney> I hate my generation
[17:53] <cmaloney> Seriously, we're the biggest bunch of wankers when it comes to child-care.
[17:56] <cmaloney> http://industryedge.nationalhardwareshow.com/2013/11/bonaverde-coffee-changers-all-in-one-coffee-maker
[17:56] <cmaloney> rick_h_: ^^
[17:58] <rick_h_> cmaloney: heh, saw that. kind of cool
[18:14] <brousch> heh, osrc is kind of fun
[18:14] <brousch> pretty accurate
[18:15] <brousch> Kind of creepy too
[18:15] <cmaloney> yep
[18:15] <cmaloney> You don't realize how many signals you generate.
[18:16] <brousch> And this just looks at github?
[18:16] <cmaloney> ostensibly
[18:16] <cmaloney> possibly anything else you have connected to github
[18:17] <brousch> "Ben seems to be a pretty serious Python expert"
[18:17] <brousch> oh yeah
[18:17] <brousch> Scheme wtf? I have no recollection of that
[18:22] <cmaloney> I don't remember Java either
[18:22] <cmaloney> although I don't think it mentioned Ruby in mine.
[18:23] <cmaloney> I made a push to Tracks dammit. My geode must be acknowledged. ;)
[18:26] <trevlar> "epic objective-c coder" ha!
[18:30] <cmaloney> https://codeclimate.com/
[18:30] <cmaloney> Interesting.
[18:30] <cmaloney> Not for Python. Apparently we don't need it with Pep8. ;)
[18:31] <rick_h_> yea, I'm curious about that. I want to toss that at some of our JS sometime
[18:35] <cmaloney> jrwren: When will Hacker News suck? When won't it suck?
[18:36] <cmaloney> And Reddit has a little immunity to that with the voting system
[18:36] <rick_h_> areas of reddit already suck. It's the communities fault
[18:36] <rick_h_> good communities will stay good, sucky ones will suck
[18:37] <rick_h_> and reply with http://johnmurray.io/log/2013/11/17/Read-Less-HN.md
[18:37] <rick_h_> to the HN side
[18:37] <cmaloney> Saw that one float by
[18:37] <cmaloney> And couldn't agree more on the good communities / bad communities
[18:45] <greg-g> fuck the grain requirement for kids lunches
[18:46] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, that one would bug me a bit. I mean, I guess the parents know the rules/how it works and choose/put their kinds in there.
[18:46] <greg-g> but what if you don't eat grains?
[18:46] <rick_h_> but man, I don't think it'd fly around here at all
[18:47] <cmaloney> http://37signals.com/remote/workcanwait
[18:47] <rick_h_> ruh roh, /me is afraid to look
[18:47] <cmaloney> What if your kid is allergic to gluten
[18:47] <cmaloney> It's SFW
[18:48] <rick_h_> well I mean I'm sure there are medical allowances and all that
[18:48] <rick_h_> I took issue in a more general sense
[18:48] <rick_h_> "sorry, we're having apple sauce with dinner, he's not getting a fruit at lunch today so shove off"
[18:49] <cmaloney> I guess my other question is "why are they checking kids lunches?"
[18:49] <cmaloney> Seriously.
[18:50] <rick_h_> well it looked like it was a law
[18:50] <cmaloney> Again, why are they checking kids lunches
[18:50] <cmaloney> That should be between kids and parents
[18:50] <greg-g> yeah
[18:51] <cmaloney> if I want to send my kid to school with 20 hostess twinkies to trade for other kids food, I should have that right
[18:51] <cmaloney> God those fuckers were like cigarettes in prison.
[19:12] <brousch> Wasn't that in Canada?
[19:13] <brousch> And I can't read HN. It is so poorly laid out like 5 year old made the website
[19:17] <jrwren> cmaloney: i said "it is a trap!"
[19:17] <jrwren> digg and slashdot both had voting.
[19:17] <jrwren> well, not in story posts in slashdot case.
[19:19] <jcastro> I <3 HN
[19:20] <jrwren> I wno't say I <3 it, but I am glad it is there.
[19:20] <jrwren> jcastro: are you ready for this week!!!!
[19:20] <jcastro> hmmm?
[19:21] <jrwren> UDS?
[19:21] <jcastro> oh
[19:21] <jrwren> lol
[19:21] <jcastro> I was like "I hope there's nothing else on this week, I have UDS, heh."
[19:40] <cmaloney> Slashdot tried some story voting thing with their tagging system
[19:40] <cmaloney> it was garbage.
[19:45] <rick_h_> cmaloney: take sports and I'll look forward to the Dr Who ownership/trademark lawsuits shutting it down :P
[19:45] <cmaloney> It's the BBC. IT's immune to your logic
[19:45] <rick_h_> fine, something you enjoy must be able to be caught up in legal shennanigans
[19:45] <cmaloney> Muhahahahaha
[19:46] <cmaloney> Shit, everything I love is caught in legal shenannigans
[19:46] <cmaloney> Music - RIAA
[19:46] <cmaloney> Video Games - Copyright
[19:46] <cmaloney> Books - Copyright / strange licenses
[19:47] <cmaloney> They're being silly, and they need to knock it off
[19:48] <cmaloney> but I'm sure they'll double-down on idiocy.
[19:48] <greg-g> it's not even noon on Monday and we've had an outage this week
[19:48] <greg-g> god dammit
[19:48] <greg-g> (our search cluster)
[19:48] <cmaloney> Honestly it's sabre-rattling. I'd be highlt surprised if they followed through
[19:49] <cmaloney> greg-g: Solr?
[19:49] <greg-g> I am soooo going to enjoy my week off next week
[19:49] <greg-g> cmaloney: elastic
[19:49] <cmaloney> Fun
[19:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: search isn't important, it's like logging
[19:49] <rick_h_> who cares
[19:50] <greg-g> haha
[19:50] <rick_h_> :P
[19:50] <cmaloney> But how will I find my CC-licensed pr0n?
[19:51] <greg-g> true, commons.wikimedia.org is the biggest Freely license porn collection there is
[19:51] <brousch> just use google!
[19:51] <greg-g> yeah, they index us immediately pretty much
[19:52] <cmaloney> I'm sure there's a bat-signal that gets sent out wherever something changes on Wikipedia
[19:56] <greg-g> so, according to our 2nd in command ops architect (well, not counting dir of ops), we've had 12 outages in as many days :( :( :( :(
[19:56] <greg-g> (outages including slowness issues)
[19:56] <brousch> I haven't noticed anything
[19:56] <brousch> You're doing great work, greg-g!
[19:56] <greg-g> they're mostly short
[19:56] <greg-g> brousch: yeah, no shit
[19:56] <greg-g> :(
[19:57] <brousch> I was serious
[19:58] <greg-g> well, maybe
[19:58] <greg-g> site issues kinda fall on me, being release manager and all
[19:58] <greg-g> but most of these weren't something I have control over
[19:59] <greg-g> this morning's was, kinda, we tried to migrate to some new search boxes, which is fine, but it wasn't done the right way (order of operations and all)
[19:59] <greg-g> and it failed
[19:59] <greg-g> I wasn't on point, but I approved the migration
[20:32] <cmaloney> https://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/402534227867996161/photo/1
[20:34] <greg-g> cmaloney++ #ohwait
[20:35] <cmaloney> ;)
[20:36] <cmaloney> You receive one imaginary internet point
[21:01] <jcastro> hey cmaloney
[21:01] <jcastro> got anything awesome to post on the michigan section of discourse?
[21:01] <jcastro> pics from the last party or something?
[21:01] <rick_h_> cmaloney: you've inspired my personal blacklist of domains, thanks!
[21:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: I've got to say, discourse just looks like forums to me :/
[21:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: with more whitespace and flat buttons
[21:02] <jcastro> rick_h_, you'll have some vim keybinds soon sir
[21:03] <rick_h_> heh
[21:03] <jcastro> I am being serious!
[21:03] <jcastro> can you post an announcement to CHC in the michigan section though?
[21:03] <rick_h_> jcastro: sure thing
[21:03] <jcastro> <3
[21:04] <jcastro> rick_h_, also in the desktop section do a "check out my bookie project" or something
[21:04]  * rick_h_ goes looking for the michigan subforum...i mean category
[21:04] <jcastro> fire up some discussion
[21:21] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Which domain got the honor?
[21:21] <cmaloney> jcastro: Um, we got verified. :)
[21:21] <rick_h_> omgubuntu and a related one :)
[21:21] <cmaloney> And I took two photos of the last release party that didn't turn out great.
[21:22] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Yeah, I re-subscribed again to planet.ubuntu.com. I think it's not going to last too long.
[21:23] <brousch> We don't have Ubuntu Release Parties any more. All we have are remembrance parties. "Remember 8.04? That was a good release. Them good old days."
[21:23] <cmaloney> brousch: Today we have regret parties.
[21:24] <jcastro> I don't remember any nice things about 8.04
[21:24] <cmaloney> 10.04 was pretty solid
[21:24] <cmaloney> 12.04 is proving solid.
[21:24] <cmaloney> I'm looking forward to 14.04
[21:24] <brousch> LTS is the best!
[21:24] <jcastro> 12.04 was amazing
[21:25] <jcastro> it'll be tough to beat
[21:25] <cmaloney> Outside of a few NVidia glitches I'm pretty pleased
[21:25] <brousch> I haven't found anything to compel me to upgrade from 12.04 yet
[21:25] <cmaloney> Me either
[21:26] <brousch> Though I still plan on trying Ubuntu Touch on my Transformer Infinity. Maybe that will convince me to use Unity
[21:26] <cmaloney> although Crossover apparently did something strange with dpkg that made their latest debian packages 13.04 and higher
[21:26] <cmaloney> so I had to do a root install with their installer.
[21:26] <cmaloney> Unity reminds me of Windowmaker
[21:26] <cmaloney> and I liked Windowmaker a lot
[21:27] <jcastro> windowmaker with the dock on the left
[21:27] <cmaloney> I had it on the right, but yeah.
[21:28] <cmaloney> http://windowmaker.org/FAQ.php?chapter=3#83
[21:28] <cmaloney> I don't have any of my old screenshots
[21:29] <brousch> Android and Windows 8 are better with touch than with a mouse. Maybe Unity will be a similar experience
[21:30] <brousch> Sorry, Ubuntu Touch
[21:31] <cmaloney> http://www.gozer.org/window_maker/irc/snapl
[21:31] <cmaloney> Hah!
[21:31] <brousch> You really have been a Linux nerd forever
[21:32] <cmaloney> Yeah
[22:04] <jrwren> 12.10 beat 12.04
[22:04] <jrwren> 13.04 beat those.
[22:04] <jrwren> 13.10 beat those
[22:04] <jrwren> :p
[22:05] <jrwren> a modern uwsgi is a good reason to upgrade from 12.04
[22:05] <cmaloney> jrwren: You know the difference between 12.04 and all the rest of those?
[22:05] <jrwren> cmaloney: i know a few, yes.
[22:05] <cmaloney> You know the biggest reason?
[22:05] <jrwren> that would be subjective.
[22:05] <jrwren> depends on use case.
[22:05] <cmaloney> 12.04 can upgrade to 14.04 without having to go through 12.10, 13.04, 13.10
[22:06] <cmaloney> so 12.04 > *
[22:06] <cmaloney> ;)
[22:06] <jrwren> no.
[22:06] <jrwren> that is silly
[22:06] <jrwren> also, you confuse "can" with "supported"
[22:06] <cmaloney> Sorry, can't hear you over my being right. ;)
[22:15] <cmaloney> pro-tip: Do not try to listen to Henry Rollins SPoken Word at work.