[05:26] <Kilos> morning all
[06:10] <Squirm> morning
[06:11] <Kilos> yo Squirm 
[06:26] <bduk1> more almal
[06:36] <nlsthzn> Goeie more, Suid Afrika
[06:36] <Kilos> hi bduk1  neelsi!
[06:36] <Kilos> neelsie too
[06:38] <Kilos> nlsthzn, i found out that dragonballz thing is or was a seriel on the idiot box here
[06:39] <nlsthzn> yup
[06:39] <Kilos> lol i never watch animated stuff
[06:39] <Kilos> thats why im doof
[06:39] <Kilos> doff
[06:40] <nlsthzn> I try to only watch animated stuff that is why I am doff :p
[06:41] <Kilos> lol
[06:47] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:48] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[07:05] <Vince-0> !
[07:06] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:06] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:09] <Squirm> meh
[07:09] <Squirm> someone was clever enough to download a wonderful android application that spoofs your phone's MAC address
[07:09] <Squirm> :/
[07:10] <Squirm> so every time I blackhole his address he just changes it
[07:10] <Squirm> and carries on torrenting
[07:17] <Vince-0> yoh
[08:17] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:28] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[08:28] <Kilos> sorry was outside getting feet fulla thorns
[08:30] <inetpro> eish!
[08:31] <Kilos> haha but ive sprayed all dubbeltjies i hope
[08:31] <Kilos> some second time and new ones first time
[08:31] <Kilos> maybe i need to invest in shoes
[08:32] <Kilos> but i like being the vervlenderde kaalvoet klonkie
[08:37] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[08:38] <Kilos> hi tumbleweed hows things by you?
[08:38] <Kilos> are you and maia at the same place
[08:38] <Kilos> ?
[09:46] <tumbleweed> Kilos: hi. in london , on may way to SF for a month
[09:46] <Kilos> aha ok ty enjoy it 
[10:12] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[10:13] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:17] <nlsthzn> kbmonkey, happy bday dude
[10:30] <psyatw> hi nlsthzn
[10:31] <psyatw> hi kbmonkey, happy birthday
[10:31] <Vince-0> !
[10:40] <Kilos> hes away
[10:40] <Kilos> mail him to wake him up
[11:05] <psyatw> a bucket full of cold water would help him realise what kind of day it is today!
[11:56] <Kilos> hehe
[12:52]  * trender slaps Kilos around a bit with a large trout
[13:03] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:05] <nlsthzn> om nom nom
[13:06] <Kilos> haha what you eating nlsthzn ?
[13:08] <nlsthzn> some chilly bites :)
[13:08] <Kilos> yummy
[13:08] <nlsthzn> and I just installed Cinnamon 2 on my Xubuntu install... very awesome
[13:08] <Kilos> anything is better than x
[13:08] <Kilos> even mate
[13:12] <nlsthzn> I had sfce looking really spiffy... actually this cinnamon looks almost identical :p
[13:13] <Kilos> even unity is better
[13:13] <nlsthzn> better is a subjective term...
[13:13] <Kilos> but then i mean only with 12.04 so far
[13:13] <nlsthzn> unity in 12.04 is slow and buggy
[13:14] <Kilos> slowish ya but then so is kde in 12.04
[13:14] <Kilos> but seems stable here now
[13:14] <Kilos> 13.10 kubuntu is lekker fast
[13:15] <Kilos> havent tried unity in 13.10
[13:15] <nlsthzn> to many little issues for me with unity... and the focus wasn't on desktop but on the phone...
[13:15] <nlsthzn> and now the focus is on tablets >.<
[13:17] <Kilos> eish they painful things
[13:19] <Kilos> might be better with ubuntu on
[13:19] <Kilos> android is really hard to work with imo
[13:22] <nlsthzn> android is awesome :p
[13:22] <Kilos> whew i battle with then tablets
[13:26]  * nlsthzn restarts xchat...
[13:28] <Kilos> xchat rocks
[13:30] <nlsthzn> grrr... xchat messing with my themeing karma... cant get it to be monochromatic in the panel :/ 
[13:30] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:30] <Kilos> dont you like coloured nicks
[13:45] <nlsthzn> not that...
[13:45] <nlsthzn> the icon in the panel is orange when all the others are monochrime
[13:45] <nlsthzn> *monochrome
[13:46] <nlsthzn> >.<
[14:54] <Kilos> lol orange is the right colour for xchat
[15:04] <nlsthzn> :p
[15:30] <kbmonkey> hello
[15:30] <kbmonkey> ah thanks nlsthzn and Kilos for the wishes
[15:31] <kbmonkey> too kind
[15:31] <Kilos> happy birthday to youuuuuuu
[15:31] <Kilos> maybe you have many more happy ones monkey
[15:31] <Kilos> and everything you wish yourself
[15:33] <kbmonkey> I look like a monkey and act like one too
[15:33] <Kilos> hehe
[15:33] <Kilos> chomp your bananas
[16:40] <theblazehen> Hey all
[17:02] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[17:17] <Kilos> hi gerritfromsa 
[17:17] <Kilos> whew your connect is sick
[17:19] <gerritfromsa> Yes Im battling
[17:20] <Kilos> i forget how you connect?
[17:20] <Kilos> oh my
[17:20] <Kilos> what isp you use?
[17:20] <Kilos> lets see if we can rev them
[17:21] <gerritfromsa> 3G ....
[17:21] <Kilos> which provider
[17:22] <Kilos> and what signal strength you get?
[17:22] <gerritfromsa> Eish
[17:25] <Kilos> email or get their ceo on twitter and complain
[17:25] <Kilos> they sort things out quick if the world sees you are unhappy
[17:28] <gerriefromsa> This is killing me
[17:29] <Kilos> is it the 3g?
[17:29] <gerriefromsa> Usually its great
[17:30] <Kilos> yeah you dont normally battle
[17:30] <gerriefromsa> Not sure whats happening right now
[17:30] <Kilos> fone them and say there is a prob with the tower
[17:31] <Kilos> they can see on their pcs if its cutting or weak
[17:31] <gerriefromsa> Trying to find open wifi network...
[17:32] <gerriefromsa> Some neighbor is running a hotspot so I`ll have to wait for them to log in to get the username/password
[17:33] <Kilos> hehe
[17:33] <theblazehen> gerriefromsa: Which security?
[17:34] <gerriefromsa> It looks like the hotspot is using base64 encoding so wireshark automatically decodes it
[17:35] <theblazehen> gerriefromsa: open access, but user + pass?
[17:35] <gerriefromsa> Thats the thing with a hotspot it puts you on the network without authentication
[17:36] <gerriefromsa> Now its a matter of waiting ...
[17:36] <Kilos> wow
[17:36] <theblazehen> Do you have a virtual server?
[17:36] <Kilos> but your 3g is getting better
[17:37] <theblazehen> Try and set up sshd on port 53, then use a socks proxy
[17:37] <gerriefromsa> Seems so
[17:38] <gerriefromsa> Blazehen , not following?
[17:39] <theblazehen> gerriefromsa: if you connect to the hotspot. connecting to remote servers on port 53 should work
[17:39] <theblazehen> 53 is DNS port
[17:39] <theblazehen> Works with many of those "AlwaysOn" hotspots too
[18:39] <magespawn> good evening
[18:40] <magespawn> Maaz coffee please
[18:40] <Maaz> magespawn: There isn't a pot on
[18:40] <magespawn> Maaz coffee on
[18:40]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:40] <magespawn> Maaz coffee for all
[18:40] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[18:44] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for magespawn!
[18:45] <magespawn> Maaz botsnack
[18:45] <Maaz> Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp
[18:45] <magespawn> Kilos ping
[18:47] <Kilos> magespawn, pong
[18:48] <magespawn> good evening
[18:48] <Kilos> how you
[18:48] <magespawn> good and you?
[18:49] <Kilos> hate the internet
[18:49] <Kilos> otherwise good ty
[18:49] <Kilos> i been trying to make a site
[18:49] <Kilos> google sites suck
[18:49] <magespawn> why now?
[18:49] <Kilos> wix seems better but too mucy to sort
[18:49] <magespawn> yes they are very limited
[18:50] <Kilos> wix seems good but there so much to sort out
[18:50] <magespawn> you can do most simple things on a google site, but they restrict script and such
[18:51] <Kilos> all i want is like a shop with a book for sale and maybe more later
[18:51] <magespawn> that is actually quite a lot
[18:52] <superfly> hey magespawn, how have you been?
[18:52] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[18:52] <magespawn> how are you going to sell the book? electronic or printed?
[18:52] <magespawn> hi superfly good and you?
[18:52] <Kilos> electronic i think in pdf
[18:52] <magespawn> with or wtihout DRM?
[18:53] <magespawn> copyrighted?
[18:53] <Kilos> i dunno bout that stuff
[18:54] <superfly> I'm OK
[18:54] <Kilos> it will mosy likely sell one then 50 more places will have them a week later
[18:55] <magespawn> well DRM is digital rights management, basically trys to stop people from making alterations or selling copies
[18:55] <magespawn> what windows does with their software
[18:55] <Kilos> superfly, you cross me??
[18:55] <superfly> Kilos: no, why?
[18:55] <Kilos> where do you get that from magespawn 
[18:55] <Kilos> i greeted you twice today
[18:56] <magespawn> not too sure, but most of it can be broken anyway
[18:57] <Kilos> lol was expecting an "I'm not blind I'm ignoring you"
[18:57] <magespawn> it might be better to go with a creative commons license of some sort
[18:57] <Kilos> yeah magespawn nothing is private or safe on the net, that why i want the stick bit with it
[18:58] <Kilos> i have no idea how all that stuff works magespawn 
[18:58] <magespawn> the stick bit?
[18:58] <Kilos> theyll laugh at me with a 10 page booklet
[18:59] <magespawn> do you want to make money from the book?
[18:59] <Kilos> yes
[18:59] <Kilos> i need to do something
[19:00] <magespawn> might be better to run a site where you can have advertising to make money
[19:01] <Kilos> i read somewhere that no one ever gets anything from adverts
[19:02] <Kilos> i want to supply ordinary peeps with the tools and knowlegde to fix their own pcs
[19:02] <magespawn> i think you can, but you need to put a bit of planning into it
[19:02] <Kilos> as in you know the cost of data recovery
[19:02] <magespawn> do you have spare data at the moment?
[19:03] <Kilos> not much ive wasted tons googling
[19:03] <Kilos> down to 50m a day till month end
[19:03] <Kilos> google sites eats data
[19:04] <magespawn> well when have maybe take a look at what i did with my google site at www.gandcnet.com
[19:04] <magespawn> the only thing i pay for os the domain name
[19:04] <magespawn> s/os/is
[19:05] <Kilos> ok i go see
[19:05] <magespawn> affiliate marketing is one of the ways to mamke money
[19:05] <magespawn> s/mamke/make
[19:07] <superfly> Kilos: I have hardly been at a computer all day today
[19:07] <Kilos> just teasing superfly 
[19:07] <Kilos> i know you busy
[19:08] <magespawn> out galivanting superfly?
[19:08] <superfly> heh. if only
[19:22] <Kilos> inetpro, waar is die water man
[19:22] <Kilos> maak oop die kraan
[19:37] <magespawn> i have been wondering what the point of byobu is? can you run it locally and on the a server?
[19:39] <magespawn> has anybody used it?
[19:40] <Kilos> ok ill check
[19:40] <Kilos> text based window manager
[19:41] <magespawn> indeed
[19:41] <Kilos> why would you need it other than on a server
[19:42] <magespawn> maybe you like to use something like vim a lot
[19:43] <Kilos> ai!
[19:43] <Kilos> i dont even use gedit anymore
[19:44] <magespawn> why?
[19:44] <Kilos> i like nano
[19:44] <Kilos> dunno
[19:44] <Kilos> old age maybe
[19:44] <Kilos> yo spinza 
[19:48] <magespawn> well stick with what you know, espcially if it does the job
[19:50] <Kilos> i used to use gedit but nano be lekker
[19:51] <Kilos> 12.04 has to run a script to get 3g to aotu connect and i turn off bot splash
[19:51] <Kilos> boot splash
[19:51] <Kilos> thats how i saw the error with zram
[19:52] <Kilos> and eventually found it only pops up after you install remastersys
[19:59] <Kilos> i go crash now, night all. sleep tight
[20:48] <magespawn> good night all