K`zanbekks: Yes00:00
ademogluguys i have weechat 0.3.7 how to update weechat 0.4.2 or more update version ?00:00
K`zanSkippped the i386 thing and added the repo, let's see if that works...00:00
wilee-nileeK`zan, what does _release -a show00:00
ademogluthere is not more sources at repo00:00
Danatowilee-nilee: im using my phone, I cant see who is here00:00
MonkeyDustademoglu  if you want something beyond what's in the repos, you'd need a ppa or external .deb, but that'sz not supported here00:01
wilee-nileeK`zan, lsb_release -a00:01
K`zanwilee-nilee: Linux jean 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux00:01
ademogluMonkeyDust: hmm ok propaply you are right00:01
wilee-nileeK`zan, That is not ubuntu00:01
K`zanwilee-nilee: root@jean:~# lsb_release -a00:02
K`zanNo LSB modules are available.00:02
K`zanDistributor ID: Ubuntu00:02
K`zanDescription:    Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS00:02
K`zanRelease:        12.0400:02
K`zanCodename:       precise00:02
FloodBot1K`zan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:02
wafflejockademoglu: https://launchpad.net/~nesthib/+archive/weechat-stable00:02
wilee-nileeK`zan, Ah that is and your in a root terminal great.00:02
wafflejockademoglu: follow instructions there, add repository, do a sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade00:02
wilee-nileewhy do people root there teminal00:03
K`zanwilee-nilee: Yes, ssh'd into that box, trying to set it up for a handicapped friend.00:03
Nas_hey everyone.. i'm trying to setup a server with deluged,couchpotato and sabnzbd. got most of it working but i'm running all of this form vmware. Because i wanted ot save all downloaded files locally on my windows PC i tried connecting to a share and thought i set all permissions correctly but permission is still denied to deluged saving to it. i am able to save to it manually.00:03
ademogluwilee-nilee: for to make everything ?00:03
Danatowilee-nilee: can I restore the bash shell by copying it from another computer?00:03
K`zanwilee-nilee: been doing this for years, not afraid of root access :-).  Just damned careful...00:03
MonkeyDustDanato  you mean .bashrc ?00:04
minimecK`zan: ok. edit 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list', remove '#' in front of the partner repository, then <ctrl>x, then sudoa apt-get update, then 'sudo apt-get install skype'.00:05
DanatoMonkeyDust I mean /bin/bash00:05
ademogluguys which pc or mac best for ubuntu ?00:05
wafflejockademoglu: best is the most subjective question00:05
ianorlinyes best is subjective00:06
K`zanminimec: Added it this way:  add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" - looks like it is installing the world now :-).00:06
ademogluwafflejock: ianorlin why ? maybe in here used ubuntu various computers with ubuntu00:07
DanatoMonkeyDust: would that work or is each one specific to each system?00:08
ianorlineven if it was a laptop there could be how much space someone has in a backpack00:08
wafflejockademoglu: not saying it's bad you're just going to elicit a lot of opinion and probably few facts, and the nature of the question begs another question, what are you using it for and what do you want to be best about it?00:08
ianorlinand how much budget they have00:08
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K`zanminimec: wilee-nilee and all, thanks!00:09
wafflejockademoglu: it's like asking who is the best olympian, there are many bests00:09
MaynardWatershi, I have an old R51 thinkpad, which i am trying to boot with the livecd LTS00:11
MaynardWatersit keeps telling me that pae needs to be enabled in the kernel00:11
wilee-nileeademoglu, I don't understand the question in reference to changing the swap.00:11
ianorlinwhat kind of processor does it have?00:11
MaynardWaterscentino M00:12
MaynardWatersi am using the 32 bit version00:12
MaynardWatersit only had 1G of ram00:12
ianorlinwhich one the pae 32 bit versoin of 12.04?00:12
MaynardWatersi go to the download page and it says the 32 is the default00:13
wilee-nileeianorlin, ubuntu00:13
DanatoIs there any way to restore my /bin/bash file only?00:13
MaynardWatersianorlin: yes00:13
bekksDanato: Boot a live cd, chroot into your system, reinstall the bash package.00:13
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JimmyNeutronIs there a way for me to query all the files in a package that have not been installed?00:14
minimecMaynardWaters: You can either use the lubuntu 12.04 install disk, or you follow that article http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html00:14
Danatobekks how do I reinstall it?00:14
bekksDanato: apt-get install --reinstall bash00:15
minimecMaynardWaters: There is even a video tutorial available http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLAQ2uQgTAY00:15
Danatobekks, nice but whats chroot?00:15
bekksDanato: A command :)00:16
Danatobekks: lol yes but how do I do that?00:16
MaynardWatersminimec: thanks for the vid00:16
wafflejock!chroot > Danato00:16
ubottuDanato, please see my private message00:16
lolcat_Can I use apt to install programs without root?00:20
bundurulolcat_ yes use sudo00:23
lolcat_bunduru: ....00:23
lolcat_I obviously dont have sudo either00:24
ianorlinno then you can't00:24
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bunduruoh i see00:24
bunduruman this wireless card... is killing me00:26
Eliyahumy driver installation for dell inspiron 1526 for ubuntu 13.10 says for wireless driver , broadcom STA wireless driver , license propretary and i clicke to activate/install and it says "sorry installation of this driverfailed please have a looka t the log file for details /var/log/jockey.log "00:30
Eliyahuany ideas why it failed?00:31
wilee-nilee!broadcom | Eliyahu have you looked here.00:32
ubottuEliyahu have you looked here.: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx00:32
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SchrodingersScatThere should be a broadcom class action suit, they have countless victims now.00:35
Danatobekks do you have a second?00:37
Danatobekks: iused this tutorial http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/07/creating-chroot-ubuntu.html?m=100:38
DanatoBut after the line sudo chroot /mnt/temp I got a Permission Denied error00:39
DanatoOr is there anybody who knows how to chroot and can help me with this error?00:40
yeyemanhow do I mount a partition in the terminal?00:44
sam113101yeyeman: using mount00:44
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yeyemansam113101, yeah00:46
wafflejock!mount > yeyeman00:46
ubottuyeyeman, please see my private message00:46
sam113101it wasn't a question00:47
yeyemansam113101, are you Linus Torwalds?00:47
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Eliyahuwhats the favored user friendly wireless network scanner for ubuntu00:50
wafflejockEliyahu: what do you mean scanner? you can use iwlist/iwconfig to get info from the command line ubuntu also includes a network-manager for basic stuff in your panel next to the clock00:51
noideaswhere would be a good place to go in getting assistance with a specific request possibly using 'sort' or 'diff'?00:51
reisionoideas: which specific request?00:52
noideaswell I want to be able to export a specific file, but im not sure if i can do it with sort or diff00:52
reisionoideas: neither is anyone else going to be, till you're more specific00:53
wafflejock!china | liu00:53
ubottuliu: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw00:53
GnewtI had two 2TB disks in software RAID using LVM, set up via the server (textual) install wizard. One of them failed and I'm getting it RMA'd. What's the right way to recover the volume once I get a fresh HDD?00:54
GnewtIt was mirroring so nothing fancy00:54
noideasreisio: I have two files, I want to be able to line up the context of the files that is the same to matching lines, and thoes lines that do not match left blank on either file.00:55
loastrange, there so little quantity of people on #ubuntu-cn00:55
loaubuntu not popular in china?00:55
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DanatoHow do I chroot a system with a broken /bin/bash using a live cd?00:55
jaydubzysam113101: see "man mount" in terminal00:55
jaydubzysam113101: eg: "mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mount/me/here"00:55
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot00:55
wafflejockloa: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin < think it's popular dunno though00:55
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amanda_how do i remote desktop using ubuntu 12.10 can't seem to find the option00:56
Jordan_Unoideas: How is "context of the files that is the same" defined? Please pastebin both files and explain your end goal?00:56
wafflejockamanda_: not sure there is anything built in so to speak.. believe you need to get vnc00:57
amanda_thought so cheers00:58
Eliyahuwafflejock i got the network manager to recognize the local wifi connection thats broadcasting but where does it say to enter into the wep key for the connection i just see the connection name01:00
ShinobiI can't find my vncviewer. I used to type this command, but it's no longer there01:00
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Eliyahuwafflejock nvm spoke to soon found it :)01:01
wafflejockEliyahu: usually after selecting connect it will usually prompt you otherwise you can generally go to edit connections01:01
reisioShinobi: ask apt-file01:01
Shinobireisio: nice. I'll install that01:02
MaynardWatersminimec: lubuntu 12.04 returned the same error when trying to boot live01:03
ianorlinis this about pae?01:03
MaynardWatersthe youtube worked beyond the point I can get to01:03
Danatowilee-nilee: I followed these instructions and got an error on the last step sudo chroot /mnt/tmp http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/07/creating-chroot-ubuntu.html?m=101:03
Danatowilee-nilee: failed to run command 'bin/bash' Permission denied01:04
noideasJordan_U this in an example of what i am looking for as an end result http://pastebin.com/7TPrqfj801:05
minimecMaynardWaters: welcome back. Very strange... --> see first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present01:05
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noideasJordan_U: each side is one file01:06
we6jboIs there a good linux multi-user guide out there for someone that wants to have three monitors+keyboards in different rooms share one computer system?01:06
Jordan_Unoideas: So matching lines in your case means lines whose contents are identical outside of the "\\DHCP02" portion?01:07
FuuqUmistwe6jbo all on the same OS? or 3 different OSes or something01:07
Jordan_Unoideas: And what is your end goal? Why do you want such a file?01:08
KalityIs there a way to play a .MOV on an Ubuntu application ? It's a QuickTime File Format and VLC says No . Any ideas ? File = 2.2 GB01:08
we6jboFuuqUmist: It would be Ubuntu 13 on a Dell OptiPlex 320 and then I'd want to share that one system with three different users01:08
noideasJordan_U: to make sure The scopes on both DHCP servers have the same information01:09
we6jboFuuqUmist: So I'd have a monitor and a keyboard in three rooms and then they'd all login to the Ubuntu 13 system01:09
Jordan_UKality: What error message does VLC give? Please pastebin the output of "file /path/to/video.mov"?01:09
FuuqUmistwe6jbo i think just hook up the monitors and keyboards01:10
prodigyhi there01:10
we6jboI'm googling and I see people have done it but I'm not sure exactly how01:10
KalityJordan_U, I don't know how to-do that ? Pls  explain the file path thingy , to mees .01:11
Jordan_Unoideas: To get such an output I expect that you will need to make a full script, bash, python, or otherwise, rather than just use options to standard commands.01:11
FuuqUmistwe6jbo do you want everyone to control the same document or something at the same time? or for each person to have their own personal session or something?01:12
rtsdadphey all01:12
FuuqUmistbecause i'm sure if you connect 10 keyboards are the same thing they will all work at the same thing automatically, same with monitors showing the exact same display image01:13
we6jboFuuqUmist: It would be different tasks. One user might be playing a video game, another might be checking email and a 3rd might be printing a writer document01:13
KalityJordan_U, way over my head ... I just get 'sound' without picture .. it plays but - there be no picture .01:13
noideasJordan_U: I though i might have to go that route. Would you be able to point me in a direction in attempts to accomplish my request?01:13
noideasJordan_U: or something perfered maybe01:13
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:14
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: you mean like a thin client? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client01:14
loawhat can i check if mplayer and smplayer have no sound? looks like i use mplayer in console and hit something on keyboard. and aftert that i haven't not got sound.01:14
FuuqUmistwe6jbo if you  fine out let me know, that sounds cool being able to do that with just one computer01:14
Shinobimy vncviewer is gone. Can anyone help me?01:14
loasound in my system 100% working)01:14
we6jboSchrodingersScat: That looks similar to what I'm looking for. Let me read a little more01:15
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClients in case that really is what you are looking for.01:17
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wilee-nileeDanato, I'm not sure where is the bin/bash and how are you trying to use it, I ran that chroot and had another OS on the hd set its grub to the mbr and updated it.01:19
we6jboSchrodingersScat: Ok I read through the webpage. It's close to what I'm looking for. I do want the power of a desktop tower on each of the systems. I'm using a chromebook so I know that's not something I want01:19
Jordan_UKality: Does VLC give you any error message?01:19
FuuqUmistSchrodingersScat can you game or do intensive things with a thin client setup?01:20
SchrodingersScatFuuqUmist: never had one of my own, can't say.01:21
Jordan_UKality: If you select Tools> Codec Information, what codec does VLC is used for the video in the file?01:22
Danatowilee-nilee: sorry I meant '/bin/bash'. I want to reinstall bash because it doea work, so they told me to chmod into the system and reinstal it. I followed the steps given in the tutorial I gave you and found that error01:23
VlanXsorry guys, how comes i cant see previous a freeze with /var/log/syslog ?01:23
we6jboSchrodingersScat: This is what I'm imaginging though I don't know if this would work. The Dell OptiPlex 320 system that I currently have would have three video cards for each user. The video signal would then be converted wirelessly to monitors in different parts of a building. The keyboard/mouse could run on it's own wireless signal somehow. Then each keyboard/mouse and monitor would have it's own desktop and home folder in addition to bei01:23
Jordan_UDanato: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.01:23
VlanXI can only see stuff from after the reboot01:23
Eliyahuwafflejock you think its worth installing the ubuntu 64 bit on the dell inspiron 1526 when its only got 2GB of ram but can go up to 4GB?01:23
Eliyahuwafflejock or should i stay on the 32 bit01:24
wilee-nileeDanato, Any command given for reinstalling bash, never had to do it, you are root there no sudo.01:24
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: sounds above my pay grade.01:24
DanatoJordan_U: I cant, im on my phone01:25
Eliyahuis it  worth installing the ubuntu 64 bit on the dell inspiron 1526 when its only got 2GB of ram but can go up to 4GB?01:25
KalityMy screen just went dim :(01:25
wilee-nileeEliyahu, Should be fine, bump the ram if you can.01:25
wafflejockEliyahu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit01:25
we6jboSchrodingersScat: Well it would be the price of three video cards and whatever drives the wireless signal plus three monitors and keyboards. I don't know if that would work or not01:26
Danatowilee-nilee: sorry I ddnt get your point01:26
Eliyahuwafflejock its wise to upgrade to the 64 regardless then because it can process more right?01:26
wafflejockEliyahu: agree with wilee-nilee 64-bit should be fine and is recommended on that page I've been using 64-bit builds for a bit and haven't had any problems really getting software or anything01:27
ianorlinit uses more ram for base01:27
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: how to get the multiple users on there is what I don't understand how you will accomplish.01:27
jaydubzyEliyahu: yeah, 64-bit will be fine. It doesn't use much more ram than 32-bit version, some apps run a little faster and it's well enough supported now that there's really no reason not to.01:27
Jordan_UDanato: Check the line in /proc/mounts relating to /mnt/tmp/ and see if it contains the mount option "noexec".01:27
wafflejockEliyahu: it will generally get all the advantages of the architecture changes in 64bit vs 3201:27
we6jboSchrodingersScat: I don't know either. That's what I'm trying to research and find out01:27
Eliyahujaydubzy thanks :D01:27
Eliyahuwafflejock thanks :D01:27
ianorlinI don't think 64 bit vs 32 bit is that much difference if you have enough ram01:28
draggehnHey there! I have a question: I upgraded to 13.10 today (don't know if it came out today) and when I started up my laptop, I logged in and the little sidebar (with all the apps, etc.) did not show up.01:28
draggehn(sorry for the long post :p) Did I do something wrong?01:28
jaydubzydraggehn: What video card do you have? It may not be getting along nicely01:28
wilee-nileeDanato, Are you reinstalling the bash app or something in bash?01:29
draggehnI don't know as it is a laptop (and not mine for that matter; spare from my dad's work) and 13.04 worked nicely.01:29
wafflejockEliyahu: np here's a bit more detail on memory usage http://askubuntu.com/questions/7034/what-is-the-difference-between-32-bit-and-64-bit-and-which-should-i-choose01:29
jaydubzydraggehn: if you log out, at the log-in screen there should be a little circle near where you type your password. If you click this it will give you a list of alternate DE's, see if one of these works properly01:29
Tangy81Hi everyone. I'm an APCS teacher, I'm installing ubuntu on all our current machines. I'm looking for a Deep Freeze alternative for Linux. I have used ofris, but it doesn't reset system files, only home files. For example if someone uses chrome to login to their google account, their bookmarks, etc are saved on the computer ever after a restart. Does anyone have any ideas?01:30
Eliyahuwafflejock you think the ubuntu 14.10 trust tarh isnt as good as 13.10 right now is it?01:30
ianorlinit is not stable yet01:30
KalityJordan_U, It won't even play on latest software !! i.e. Lightworks . http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/lightworks-enter-public-beta01:30
DanatoJordan_U: I dont have a mounts dir in /proc01:30
draggehnjaydubzy: the problem is whenever I press Ctrl+Alt+Del or try to log off (Ctrl+Alt+L doesn't work either) nothing happens.01:30
jaydubzyTangy81: I don't know what Deep Freeze does, but I usually just make images of my hard drives using dd. This way I can restore everything to the state it was when I took the image easily01:31
Danatowilee-nilee: the idea is to restore bash01:31
wafflejockEliyahu: they go year.month so 2014 October it should be released for now you'll likely encounter bugs with anything beyond 13.04, 12.04 has long term support for 5 years then will have to switch over in 2017 at latest01:31
jaydubzydraggehn: don't know if those shortcuts are in place anymore. Press ctrl+T to open a terminal and type "gnome-session-quit" to log out01:31
Tangy81jaydubzy: For a school enviroment with 36+ computers, that's inefficient. Deep Freeze basically "freezes" the computer state, so files created would be erased after a restart.01:31
wilee-nileeDanato, you've been getting better help than I can give, hehe carry on.01:31
jaydubzyTangy81: ah yes, I see. Not sure what you might want to use then01:32
draggehnjaydubzy: I do not see this circle you are talking about and now that I logged out, I see a user named "Light Display Manager" with a password.01:32
wafflejockEliyahu: currently I'm running 12.04 on my development and deployment machines but was using 13.04 with no real problems... had some actual hardware failure I mistook for a software failure so I down-graded after lots of debugging01:32
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcq5rWEeDko01:32
jaydubzydraggehn: That's interesting, sounds like something's pretty broken :/01:32
jaydubzythe circle (might be the ubuntu logo) should be directly to the right of the user's name01:33
jaydubzydraggehn: see above01:33
we6jboSchrodingersScat: I'll check it out. Thanks01:33
ianorlinhave you logged in draggehn?01:33
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draggehnjaydubzy: I don't see this. Hm. I think I'll do a(nother) fresh install.01:34
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Danatowilee-nilee: lol actually any help would very appreciated, ive been here for some hours already without any01:34
jaydubzydraggehn: verify the disc contents before you do01:34
draggehnianorlin: Yes I have. I also logged out with "gnome-session-quit"01:34
jaydubzydraggehn: I've had a lot of installs go bad because of corrupt DVDs01:34
ianorlinburn them slower01:34
draggehnjaydubzy: freshly burned 13.10 from  the site, I think it's fine01:35
ianorlinand check md5sum01:35
jaydubzydraggehn: can never be sure.01:35
jaydubzydraggehn: (without verifying and comparing md5, that is)01:35
draggehnjaydubzy: how big should the .iso for ubuntu 13.10 be?01:35
wafflejockdraggehn: check the md5sum it's your best bet01:35
wilee-nileeDanato, In general I have not had to reinstall bash I have not looked at it's dependencies, my simple reaction is in a chroot,  apt-get install bash01:35
jaydubzydraggehn: not sure off hand, compare the md5.01:35
DanatoJordan_U my mistake, mounts is not a dir, sorry jst a sec01:36
draggehnjaydubzy: where will I find the md5 for the ubuntu 13.10 iso to compare to?01:36
wafflejockdraggehn: if the md5 sum checks out okay then your download at least matches what the website is telling you, you should have, after that just pick a lower burning speed than max and give it another go01:36
wafflejockdraggehn: are you on linux or windows to burn the iso?01:37
jaydubzydraggehn: you can find it on the ubuntu site. you might need to browse to the alternate-downloads page to find the file there01:37
draggehnjaydubzy: windows.01:37
draggehnwafflejock: windows01:37
draggehnjaydubzy: sorry, meant to quote wafflejock :p01:37
jaydubzydraggehn: no worries01:37
wafflejockdraggehn: if you use img burn to burn the disks I believe it shows the md5 sum for the iso for you in the burning window after you load the ISO01:38
* Kality switch to Vaper rather than chain-roaching :(01:38
wafflejockdraggehn: http://www.imgburn.com/01:38
draggehnwafflejock: yep, used that.01:38
wafflejockk yeah then the other part is to find the MD5 sum on the website where you downloaded from.. can you drop your current link?01:38
draggehnwafflejock: I just used http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc01:39
ianorlinif you have another comp with a burner might try that one01:39
draggehnwafflejock: and I'm not seeing the MD5 in imgburn. Do I need to put a disk in first?01:39
draggehnianorlin: I have no other computers in the house (that I can use) other than my desktop and laptop01:40
wafflejockdraggehn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes01:40
jaydubzydraggehn: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/MD5SUMS01:40
jaydubzywafflejock: beat me to it :p01:40
wafflejockdraggehn: one sec lemme check on img burn actually haven't used it in a minute but recalled it showing the md5 somewhere, thought it was just after an ISO was loaded01:40
draggehnjaydubzy: Now how do I check the md5 of the .iso? via command prompt?01:41
DanatoJordan_U: http://pastebin.com/Z6WR7ggA I had to copy it manually, I hope I ddnt make a typo01:41
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wafflejockdraggehn: winmd501:42
draggehnwafflejock, jaydubzy: weird, I logged onto the guest account and the apps sidebar thing is working fine.01:42
Danatowilee-nilee: the problem is that im not getting in a chroot yet01:42
travis_draggehn, Hello01:43
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draggehnDuel, hey.01:43
wafflejockdraggehn: ah possibly something botched in your user config then (one of the . files or folders in your /home/user folder) not sure why this would happen with a fresh install though01:44
Eliyahuwafflejock how about ubuntu drivers for hp webcams such as the hp hd-2200 ?01:44
Dueldraggehn, Is there a way to move tha panel on 13.10?01:44
draggehnwafflejock: it wasn't *REALLY* a fresh install; when updating from 13.04 via updater on ubuntu, something went wrong and wouldn't boot up (accidentally logged off in the middle of update heh.)01:45
wilee-nileeDanato, I see that, so when you ran those commands the first time to get there, what was you command then to fix bash, it was an error, just curious, that chroot worked fine for me.01:45
draggehnI just kept data from previous install since I had sensitive data on there.01:45
draggehnwafflejock: see above01:45
wafflejockEliyahu: not sure about the webcam drivers really all I can say is my Logitech QuickCam Orbit has worked in every version, but don't know the details01:45
Eliyahuwafflejock ok thanks01:45
draggehnwafflejock: where would the config files be? and how would I fix these?01:46
Eliyahuwafflejock better work for a 300$ webcamera01:47
we6jboSchrodingersScat: I just found out this is called multiseat01:47
Eliyahuwafflejock rediculous that youd spend 300$ on that01:47
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: ok, looking into that01:47
draggehnwafflejock: I'll do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see if that fixes anything.01:47
wafflejockEliyahu: I didn't pay $300 for a webcam http://www.pcplanetsystems.com/abc/product_details.php?category_id=21&item_id=1481 they have deals on em01:48
DuelIs there a way to move the Ubuntu Dock? Ive been looking and cant find anything on 13.1001:48
Eliyahuwafflejock :P01:48
wafflejockEliyahu: although admittedly I've spent $300 on a speaker system but don't regret that :)01:48
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: still takes some kind of minimal workstation though?01:48
draggehnDuel: I can't check right now (or I would) because of my botched configs.01:48
SchrodingersScatwe6jbo: or not, nvm.01:48
Dueldraggehn, what happened?01:49
draggehnDuel, my sidebar isn't showing up :p01:49
danato_ok im on a computer now01:49
draggehnwafflejock suggested that my configs must be messed up, but I do not know how to fix this without doing a completely fresh install from disc.01:49
danato_wilee-nilee, i was doing the first set of commands , those to create a chroot http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/07/creating-chroot-ubuntu.html01:51
wafflejockdraggehn: think you can just configure a new user account and migrate things over, generally speaking there are two places I've seen things like this go wrong, either the .xsession/ICEAuthority file (don't think it's that here) or something in your /home/username/.something files, making a new user will not have all of your previous configuration files in it, you can potentially migrate them over then and see which one causes the01:51
wafflejockproblem but you may have many01:51
dabcan anyone guess why i would have a python script that runs fine if i run it manually, but if i run it with the same command in an upstart its unable to make a network connection?01:51
xanguaDuel: no way to move the launcher01:51
dabi was thinking it was a permissions issue but its running as root when upstart runs it01:51
wafflejockdraggehn: if you're in ~ at the command line to ls -al to see hidden (dot) files01:51
draggehnwafflejock: I don't see any ".anything" files at /home/draggehn01:51
danato_wilee-nilee, and i got the error chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: Permission denied01:52
wafflejockdraggehn: in most file explorers it's alt + . to show them01:52
wafflejockdraggehn: there's definitely a bunch in there or something went really wrong01:52
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Danatowilee-nilee, oh and the specific command was 'sudo chroot /mnt/temp'01:53
draggehnwafflejock: doing "Alt + ." brings up search (in nautilus)01:54
DuelIs GTK 2 or 3 on Ubunto 13.10?01:54
wafflejockdraggehn: ah sorry, using dolphin right now thought it was the same01:54
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot01:54
wafflejockmight be alt+h can't recall01:54
wilee-nileedanato_, I am only slightly familiar with all the paths and dependencies, but unless that third line command, in the group of 5 line to do the chroot has a bash call I am confused where you have run it to get a error.01:54
wafflejockdraggehn: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t7.htm Ctrl + H it says01:55
DuelHow do I add another chat? liek CHannel01:55
wafflejockDuel: /join #someChannel01:55
draggehnwafflejock: got it just before I saw that :p01:55
wafflejockheh yeah sometimes you can just smash keys and get lucky :)01:55
Eliyahuwafflejock you think the : AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Processor TL- 60 (2.00GHz 1M) with 2 GB of ram is faster with ubuntu 62 than windows vista?01:56
Danatowilee-nilee, how did you do it?01:56
DuelEliyahu, Its fast I just got on 13.1001:56
wafflejockEliyahu: my guess is yes but my experience with Vista has never been positive01:57
draggehnwafflejock: so, which .files should I investigate?01:57
wilee-nileeDanato, I just ran all 5 commands by them selves making sure ths sdXX was actually sda7 on my computer, I just went o another linux install on the hd rather than from a live cd, virtual the same.01:57
Jordan_UKality: Did you see my question earlier?01:58
wafflejockdraggehn: well that's the problem... not really sure what is causing it to fail but I'm just guessing it's something in there since the other guest user account works fine... you'll have to use check your syslog and maybe dmesg to see if you can track down what's causing it... alternatively make a new user account and one by one move over the . files that you want to try and re-use till you see which one fails01:58
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wilee-nileeDanato, I know vey little about bash, I have to wonder if you ran the commands wrong or what ever damage got you here may be blocking you.01:59
KalityJordan_U, I'm vaping .. please repeat questuion .. thanx .01:59
Danatowilee-nilee, i replaced sdXY to sda4, which is where my ubuntu is installed and im on a live cd01:59
draggehnwafflejock: alright; I'll save that for tomorrow. Do you know the name of the process that creates the sidebar thing?01:59
draggehnwafflejock: maybe I can start it via terminal01:59
Eliyahuwafflejock  hows the security in ubuntu?01:59
wafflejockwafflejock: it's called the launcher generally but not sure about the actual proces01:59
Jordan_UKality: If you select Tools> Codec Information, what codec does VLC is used for the video in the file?02:00
Kalityfor audio .. or video .. ,codec. ??02:00
wafflejockEliyahu: you have to harden any system you want to be truly secure, in any linux distro there's quite a bit of software available for firewalls and the like (use iptables to interface with the built in one)02:00
wafflejockdraggehn: * oops addressed me instead of you up there, but yeah pretty sure it's just the "launcher" though again not sure of the process/package name02:01
wilee-nileeDanato, so you had an error "failed to run command 'bin/bash' Permission denied" what exactly caused this, what command?02:01
Jordan_UKality: I specifically asked about video.02:01
wafflejockEliyahu: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-security.html02:01
Danatowilee-nilee, sudo chroot /mnt/temp02:02
Kalityok .. so its the vuideo codec .. it uses two with a .mov .. you knowv ?02:02
Jordan_UDanato: What is the output of "ls -l /mnt/temp/bin/bash"?02:02
draggehnwafflejock: Googled "ubuntu 13.10 launcher not working" or something to that effect, gonna try what a youtube video suggested.02:02
Jordan_UKality: There are many possible video codecs that can be contained in a .mov container. Please follow the instructions I gave and tell me the information I asked for.02:03
Danatojordan_U: -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 0 Nov 17 22:18 /mnt/temp/bin/bash02:03
wafflejockEliyahu: if extreme security is a major concern a distro like Arch is probably more appropriate since it is completely stripped down and the less software you have the less possible vulnerabilities you have basically, that said you can make a pretty safe system with Ubuntu so long as you set appropriate permissions and use SSH and the like to secure communications02:03
Jordan_UDanato: Well, that's clearly wrong as /bin/bash should be executable. Any idea how this happened?02:03
Eliyahuwafflejock thanks for letting me pick your brain02:04
Eliyahuwafflejock ill try to relent with you tonight :OP02:04
wafflejockEliyahu: np it's pretty fun or I wouldn't come in here to avoid working on bugs of my own :P02:04
wafflejockplus learn a lot from chatting in here and saying things and getting corrected or more/better advice02:05
KalityJordan_U,  the container used for the video in a .MOV file is Motion Jpeg Video AKA " mjpa "02:05
* Kality see's a Rabbit Hole :S #random02:05
Jordan_UKality: Please stop the offtopic comments.02:06
KalityJordan_U,  the container used for the video in a .MOV file is Motion Jpeg Video AKA " mjpa "02:06
Kalitysatisfied ?02:06
Danatojordan_U: actually yeah, I was reading a tutorial and on an exercise they thought it was funny enough to ask ppl "create and delete a file with the name $SHELL". And i ddnt think about it much before i used "sudo cat > $SHELL"02:06
selocolHi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu using a Live DVD. I got a blank screen, so I restarted using nomodeset, but I'm still getting a blank screen. I am able to get into the terminal using Ctrl+Alt+1. What should I do now? Thanks for any help.02:07
DanatoJordan_U, that should be why my /bin/bash got messed up, and I know, it was stupid. But is it fixable?02:08
draggehnwafflejock: fixed it!02:08
wafflejockdraggehn: awesome what was it?02:08
draggehnwafflejock: had to re-enable the Unity plugin in ccsm02:08
wafflejockah nice easy one02:08
Jordan_UDanato: Ahh, then "sudo chroot /mnt/temp/bin/sh" will get you a dash shell instead of bash, and you should be able to re-install bash from there (hopefully apt/dpkg don't depend on bash).02:08
draggehnwafflejock: http://askubuntu.com/a/7695102:08
Duel,my dogs have no food02:10
wafflejockdraggehn: wow well that's a bummer but good to know thx02:10
Danatojordan_U: chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/temp/bin/sh: Not a directory02:11
selocolHi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu using a Live DVD. I got a blank screen, so I restarted using nomodeset, but I'm still getting a blank screen. I am able to get into the terminal using Ctrl+Alt+1. What should I do now? Thanks for any help.02:11
Jordan_UDanato: Sorry, "sudo chroot /mnt/temp/ /bin/sh"02:12
draggehnAlright, now that my problem's fixed, I'm gonna leave. Thanks wafflejock and jaydubzy!02:12
draggehnGood night!02:12
wafflejockdraggehn: yup have a good one02:13
KalityJordan_U, What are you doing with the .info I gave you , that you *specifically* request from myself ?02:13
DuelWhy does it give an IP once they leave?02:13
Duelwafflejock, hey Does it matter what Theme I install for 13.10 Ubuntu?02:14
wafflejockDuel: no it shouldn't as far as I know... haven't played much with third party themes though, I switched to KDE in the last year but have only tweaked the theme to my liking in here02:15
Duelwafflejock, I just got on linux in the past 48 Hours. New incoming02:16
wafflejockDuel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133835/do-themes-slow-down-ubuntus-performance02:16
wafflejockDuel: yeah lots of the stuff you can just google "my question here"+ ubuntu and get a decent answer most of the time, beyond that if you get stuck just come here and explain your situation as detailed as you can02:17
Duelwafflejock, I got a error. Said cannot locate package02:17
wafflejockDuel: that means that none of your currently setup repositories for getting packages has whatever it is you told it to install02:18
Duelwafflejock, So I need to find the repository that has it?02:18
wafflejockDuel: if you give details on what you're trying to install and where you found the instructions for it I can probably help02:18
Danatojordan_U: yeah I got access now :) thats progress, but should "sudo apt-get --reinstall bash" be working?02:18
wafflejockDuel: generally speaking yeah02:18
nazok last time ima ask hopefully someone can help, how do you set a primary monitor while using nvidsuckia?02:19
Duelwafflejock, Well I was just trying to install " MyUnity " and " Ubuntu-Tweak" because they are required.02:19
Jordan_UKality: Looking up information on vlc's support for Motion JPEG. Did you get this file from a video camera? What version of Ubuntu are you using?02:20
nazwait a sec lemme rephrase the question, how do you get a primary monitor "working" while on linux and using nvidia?02:20
bakemonohey guys i'm asked to fix an old server at work running zfsonlinux which has a degraded disk, problem is the zpool status only tells me the list of disks in disk0, disk1 etc. not /dev/sda and so I can't find out which device disk16 which is the faulty disks corresponds to, anyone know how to find this out please? Thanks02:22
Danatojordan_U:  *"sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash" got it now :) thanks a lot02:22
ubottubakemono,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server02:23
KalityJordan_U, Qu.1 yes .. a 16GB SDCard 14MP Camera (GE 2011 camera) with .MOV output (.mov) quicktime file extension output . Qu.2 I am running an updated 13.10 'daily-builds' standard Ubuntu with Unity DE .    .... OK ?02:23
wafflejockDuel: you should be able to get myunity with a regular sudo apt-get install since it's in the main repositories02:24
dgarstang3Anyone ever seen this? The link /dev/vg01/testvol01 should had been created by udev but it was not found. Falling back to direct link creation.02:24
wafflejockDuel: Ubuntu Tweak you would have to downoad the .deb file here http://ubuntu-tweak.com/02:24
wafflejockDuel: then just click it to launch and it should launch the deb installer (basically like windows installer if you're familiar, just unpackages the .deb file for you and runs configuration from the program)02:25
Duelwafflejock, okay I will try02:25
bakemononvm i figured it out02:26
bakemono bye02:26
Duelwafflejock, Know why I have to right click open in browser for links to work?02:26
Jordan_UKality: What do you mean by 'daily-builds'? Since 13.10 has been released, I'm assuming that you mean that you initially installed Ubuntu from a daily build beforeit was released, but I'm not sure.02:26
wafflejockDuel: just the nature of your IRC client I think02:26
KalityJordan_U, Yes . correct .. but I call                                                                                bearD .02:27
Duelwafflejock, it was like that on #!, Mint, and This now02:27
Kalityi.e. development branch Ubuntu ... that is .02:27
Duelwafflejock, Installing it now02:28
Danatojordan_U: I got lots of Permission denied errors http://pastebin.com/DmcYxqRs02:28
Jordan_UKality: Please run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal and post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (and share the link to said output here).02:29
Duelwafflejock, How do I launch Ubuntu Tweak?02:29
wafflejockDuel: should show up in your launcher now if you hit Super/WinKey then type ubuntu tweak02:30
Jordan_UDanato: Unfortunately installing bash normally requires bash.02:30
cfhowlettjordan, Whoa, man!  You just, like, totally blew my mind!02:31
Danatojordan_U: is it possible to replace it with a bash from another system?02:31
Duelwafflejock,  Got it, Time to get themes now02:31
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pepeedoes someone knows how to use pavucontrol in ubuntu?02:32
pepeeseriously, it's driving me crazy...02:32
pepeehow do you set the default output device?02:32
pepeekmix "just works", pavucontrol still doesn't, wth ubuntu?02:32
Duelwafflejock, that link you gave me, the themes link in the bio, Idk what it means02:32
Duelwafflejock, do i get to see em? https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/themes/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75 or I just add them and see what they are?02:33
pepeeit seems to be using the HDMI output as default, which I'm not using right now02:33
Jordan_UDanato: Please pastebin the output of "find /-name '*bash*' /mnt/temp/var/cache/apt/archives/".02:34
SchrodingersScatJordan_U: s,/-,/ -, ?02:34
Jordan_UDanato: Sorry, that's completely wrong.02:35
baegleJust setup a Xerox Phaser 6010N as a network printer. Status seems fine. Test page claims it's making it to the job queue AND succesfully completing but the printer never prints the test page. It's just "ready". Anyone have experience with this?02:35
DanatoJordan_U, take your time02:35
KalityJordan_U, http://pastebin.com/amhcYQ4S02:36
Jordan_UDanato: Please pastebin the output of "find /mnt/temp/var/cache/apt/archives/ -name '*bash*'  ".02:36
Danatojordan_U: find: `/mnt/temp/var/cache/apt/archives/': No such file or directory02:37
Jordan_UKality: Odd, according to https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/999 Motion JPEG should work in the version of VLC you're using. What happens if you try to play the file via Totem?02:38
Jordan_UDanato: Your Ubuntu installation is mounted at /mnt/temp/, correct? Do you have a separate /var/ partition?02:39
Duelwafflejock, when I try and add sudo apt-get install attack-of-the-clones-gtk-theme It says package cannot be found02:40
wafflejockDuel: if you open MyUnity it has some built in packages02:40
Duelwafflejock, so ubuntu tweak wont work?02:41
wafflejockDuel: no just saying it's one way you can change your themes02:41
Jordan_UDanato: I don't know if just copying bash over will work, but we should be able to use dpkg -x to extract the file from your most recent bash package.02:41
Danatojordan_U: yes its mounted on /mnt/temp and i use ubuntu on sda4 if thats what you meant02:41
wafflejockDuel: if you find custom themes you need to follow their instructions for install though02:42
TheLordOfTimepython's included with Ubuntu by default, right...?02:42
Jordan_UDanato: Did you run the command I gave inside or outside of the chroot?02:42
reisioTheLordOfTime: hard to imagine otherwise02:42
reisioI think ccsm is python02:42
Danatojordan_U: I'm guessing inside, because im using the same dash terminal, and i ddnt quit anything02:43
niftylettuceI can't get HDMI detected on my Raring installation.  I have Intel stuff.  Any advice/drivers/installs I could do?  It's not detected in lspci or xrandr w/e.02:43
Duelwafflejock, https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/themes/+index?batch=75&direction=backwards&memo=75 how do I find intructions for any of the themes?02:43
Jordan_UDanato: From inside the chroot you'll need to remove the /mnt/temp from the path in that find command.02:44
wafflejockDuel: to add this repository to the stuff apt searches (your /etc/apt/source.list) use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/themes02:46
wafflejockDuel: then do: sudo apt-get update02:46
wafflejockthat will get the new list of packages from current repositories02:46
Danatojordan_U,  /var/cache/apt/archives/bash_4.2-5ubuntu3_amd64.deb02:47
wafflejockthen you should be able to just: sudo apt-get install packagehere02:47
wafflejockDuel: if you find themes on sites like DeviantArt or elsewhere though they may be accompanied with instructions to install the theme manually02:47
DuelI cant scroll up on this IRC Chat02:47
DuelWIll do02:48
Duelwafflejock, Is ALT+F2+r and Enter still reload graphics?02:48
wafflejockDuel: not sure about that one02:48
wafflejockDuel: generally speaking in Ubuntu upstart scripts and upstart are used to start and stop the main processes/services/daemons02:49
wafflejockDuel: so usually something like, sudo service lightdm restart, will do the trick02:49
KalityJordan_U,  just installing totem this second !02:49
baegleI cannot wait to migrate from this distro02:50
Duelwafflejock, Im getting http://www.deviantart.com/art/elementary-Dark-GTK3-Theme-244257862 atm.02:50
wafflejockDuel: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a TTY if your graphics get too messed up, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back02:50
Duelwafflejock, Hold on check this out.02:50
Duelwafflejock, Check this out http://pastebin.com/y6yXtuGg ?02:52
Jordan_UDanato: mkdir /tmp/bash_extract/ && dpkg-deb -x /var/cache/apt/archives/bash_4.2-5ubuntu3_amd64.deb /tmp/bash_extract02:52
KalityJordan_U, totem already installed on 13.1002:53
Danatojordan_U: done02:53
xanguaDuel: so you are trying to install a gtk 3.4 theme in latest ubuntu...not gonna work02:53
KalityJordan_U, Do you know how to Proceed if totem does not render the .mov File ?02:53
wafflejockDuel: not sure that this theme has a package for your system then02:53
Duelwafflejock,  Okay, Well what themes do? lol02:54
KalityJordan_U, i.e. what to do next ?02:54
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wafflejockDuel: basically this means the developer didn't make a .deb file compiled for your architecture you just have to see what it says in the comments basically, this guy says he ditched maintaining this02:54
Jordan_UDanato: That should give you (among other files) a /tmp/bash_extract/bin/bash. If so, try "cp /tmp/bash_extract/bin/bash /bin/bash", then run "bash" to test it, and re-install bash anyway for good measure.02:54
KalityJordan_U, totem just gives an error message .. Saying " Cannot play this type of File ."02:55
Jordan_UKality: It didn't offer to install additional codecs?02:55
KalityJordan_U, No.02:55
Kalityit didn't at all .02:56
Jordan_UKality: Try joining #videolan and asking there.02:56
Duelwafflejock,  trying another theme02:57
Dueleyy I think it worked02:57
Danatojordan_U: since its taking a while, I'm guessing it is copying02:58
KalityJordan_U, I know this is a 'friendly chit-chat' between ubuntu-omg users .. but  I CALL BEARD ON YOU .02:58
Kality QnA session .. /join ubuntuQnAns. they said , it'll be Productive for AlmoST 2 hours !! they said !02:58
* Kality grumbles :P02:59
KalityI weouldn't mind .. but it's 3 a.m. Here !!03:00
Jordan_UDanato: The extraction shouldn't take too long, if it's not done by now then it's likely something went wrong.03:00
Kality**wouldn't ..03:00
Duelwafflejock, Know of anything else cool I can do?03:00
KalityJordan_U, Don't ignore me .. !!   ,  https://www.dropbox.com/s/666k2ylo8cp0wz3/2012-12-04b.jpg03:02
Danatojordan_U: was I supposed to use sudo on that?03:02
wafflejockDuel: depends on what you're into... I really enjoy playing with Blender (3D editing) but there is a learning curve to it, Hydrogen drum machine is fun if you're into making music, Audacity is also good for mixing tracks together and doing some basic editing... GIMP and/or Inkscape if you like drawing stuff... Pithos is good if you use Pandora, lots of good stuff out there just depends on what you like03:02
cfhowlettDuel, if you're a creative type, ubuntustudio has all KINDS of cool toys.03:04
wafflejockDuel: I personally mostly abandoned Unity at this point and went with a fresh Kubuntu install after having KDE side by side with Unity and deciding I liked it better... still have Unity in a virtual machine and XFCE in another just to play with everything03:04
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Duelwafflejock, what about for customizing my desktop? this is mine currently http://imgur.com/5iAU48W03:04
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Guest6938Hi, How can I install ubuntu/ubuntu touch on an MID A13 generic tablet????03:05
ubottuGuest6938,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch03:05
wafflejockDuel: I'm a web developer by trade so a lot of the stuff I put on here outside of enterataining myself is development... like I said in KDE land now... will post a shot of what I've got03:06
Guest6938cfhowlett , no one answers there03:06
KalityGuest6938, Can you ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices03:07
icesvencnIs anyone here?03:07
cfhowlettGuest69055, then you'll just have to check back.  but if your device is NOT on the touch list ---03:07
Guest6938Thanks Kality!!03:07
* Kality received 1st thought of thanks in weeks .03:07
* Kality shrugs .03:08
DuelOkay this XChat isnt working well03:08
DuelI cant scroll up03:08
icesvencnhello,everyone,I'm from China,I need helps!Who can help me?03:08
Dueland Dont have settings or anything03:08
wafflejockDuel: http://i.imgur.com/Ci2Oc09.jpg03:08
cfhowletticesvencn, ask you question03:08
Duelwafflejock,  :)03:08
KalityGuest6938: Da nada \o/03:08
wafflejock!cn | icesvencn03:08
ubottuicesvencn: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw03:08
Jordan_UKality: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss your offtopic comments here.03:09
DuelUbuntu is wierd, how if I open the internet there isnt the option in the internet box its like on the top03:09
Kalityjordan_U, Are you part of the Ubuntu IRC team , or something ?03:09
Jordan_UKality: Yes.03:10
Danatojordan_U,  it jst finished copying03:10
KalityWell then ...03:10
wafflejockDuel: yeah i wasn't a huge fan of the whole integrated top bar thing, also not a huge fan of the scope found it too distracting and unnecessary, in KDE can customize your panels more easily and has some cool "plasmoids" or widgets03:10
icesvencnI am a new user for ubuntu,even linux,I want to known how about the safety of this system?(My English is not very well,sorry)03:10
wafflejockDuel: Ctrl+L is helpful though for getting to that bar03:11
cfhowletticesvencn, it's safe.03:11
Danatojordan_U: how do i test bash from here? I tried reinstalling and i got the same errors03:11
cfhowletticesvencn, I can help on PM03:11
KalityJordan_U, You *should* be well aware that Mr shuttleworth called for IRC operatives to be 'gracious' and not "&quote mean" about being on this channel .. Are you listening ?03:11
icesvencnI hate the windows sysytem03:11
Duelwafflejock, Not to sure if I like this integrated bar thing..03:11
KalityJordan_U, He did this 3 weeks ago .03:11
reisioicesvencn: compared to Windows, Ubuntu will be incredibly more secure by default03:12
wafflejockDuel: yeah once i installed kubuntu and played with it for like an hour I decided to wipe my system and reinstall (SSD so strapped a bit for space and didn't want Unity anyhow)03:12
Duelwafflejock, Kubuntu you say03:12
icesvencn<cfhowlett> Thank you ! So I do not need to install any firewall or safety soft?03:13
cfhowletticesvencn, there ARE users in #ubuntu-cn if you'd like to discuss in Chinese03:13
wafflejockDuel: yeah I suggest you install VirtualBox so you can install some other distros or desktop environments without messing up your main system03:13
KalityJordan_U, Where are you on *this* List ? :: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-members/+members ::03:13
Duelwafflejock, I think i might have it already,03:13
cfhowletticesvencn, ubuntu has a firewall built in, but it's not turned on unless you want it.  malware and viruses are extremely rare.03:13
wafflejockDuel: then once you settle on what you like just install that and if need be remove Unity or do a fresh install03:13
wafflejockDuel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available03:14
Jordan_UKality: I have asked you nicely to stop the offtopic comments multiple times, I have then asked you nicely to join #ubuntu-ops. Please do so.03:14
cfhowletticesvencn, where in China?  There's a Beijing Linux User Group ...03:14
icesvencn<cfhowlett> My English is not very well ,but I can read ,I can improve my English here. How to turned on the firewall?03:14
ubottuicesvencn,: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo03:14
Duelwafflejock,  SO if I install one of these will it remove that like auto or integrated bar03:15
KalityJordan_U, Please refrain from giving serious instructions about #ubuntu-ops .. And Answer My Previous Qustion.. Immediately and Forthwith .. ' where are you on list ' ??03:15
* cfhowlett realizes he can NEVER be a mod because he doesn't have the patience for jackholes.03:16
wafflejockDuel: yeah none of the others have that, that I'm aware of... I've used KDE and XFCE recently, XFCE is very minimalistic (good for a GUI on a server if you want it), KDE is heavier and more feature rich.. MATE and cinammon were both okay but nothing that wowed me03:17
Duelwafflejock,  What about Gnome?03:17
Jordan_Ucfhowlett: Calling people names doesn't help anything. Please don't.03:17
ImTheDudehello do they have other topics channels?03:18
pogiakodoes 12.04 have bluetooth?03:18
pogiakoi think i may have to install bluetooth drivers03:18
wafflejockDuel: haven't used it in years, like since Ubuntu 6 or something, but think MATE is meant to the be basically retaining old Gnome03:18
SchrodingersScatImTheDude: who is 'they'?03:18
cfhowlettjordan, noted03:18
Duelwafflejock, Okay so Im either thinking Gnome, or the other 2 you said03:19
SchrodingersScatImTheDude: you can find plenty on freenode, can search the channel lists or blindly try to /join #room and see if it exists.03:19
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Jordan_Upogiako: Ubuntu 12.04 does have bluetooth support, but your specific bluetooth controller/device may not be supported. What type of bluetooth device are you trying to use, and how have you tried pairing it so far?03:19
Duelwafflejock, I also kind of like the dock tho.03:20
pogiakoi havent paired it with anything yet03:20
pogiakomaybe i do have to get drivers for it03:20
wafflejockDuel: yeah really it's worth it to do an install in virtual box (you just install virtual box with sudo apt-get install virtual-box) then you just hit new and walk through the wizard and hit start then it'll ask for an ISO, you give it the install ISO and go through the setup03:20
wafflejockDuel: it's worth it to have vbox installed to just test stuff and not botch your main system03:20
cfhowlett^^^^ agree03:21
pogiakoi cant pair with other devices even when other devices' bluetooth are on03:21
Duelwafflejock,  Ima try GNOME First where do I start?03:21
Danatojordan_U: i dont think it worked because I still cant reinstall batch, is there any other way to test?03:22
Jordan_UDanato: Did you run the cp command I gave, or just the dpkg -x one?03:23
Danatojordan_U i ran the cp command already03:23
wafflejockDuel: I have a guide I'm working on that walks through all the steps for setting up virtual box, would start there if you don't want to risk your system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qRYXSYyAunclSOr-iLhpHa7A88MQXrO04B0n8pQPmA/edit?usp=sharing03:23
Jordan_UDanato: What is the output of "ls -l /bin/bash" now?03:24
Danatojordan_U: -rw-r--r-- 1 danato danato 959168 Nov 18 10:55 /bin/bash03:24
Duelwafflejock, I have to restart for this to work?03:24
wafflejockDuel: if you're not concerned with that follow this http://askubuntu.com/questions/112958/gnome-shell-can-i-install-alongside-unity03:24
wafflejockDuel: no virtual box is just a program that contains another OS03:25
wafflejockDuel: that's the nice part, no need to reboot... bad part is it is not giving the guest OS (one running inside) complete access to the hardware03:25
Duelwafflejock, so what If i do like it?03:26
Duelwhat will i hav to do then03:26
wafflejockDuel: nothing necessarily if you want to reclaim the disk space from the other desktop environment you aren't using you can just delete the packages for it using sudo apt-get remove package03:26
wafflejockor if you want to get rid of all config too sudo apt-get purge package03:26
Jordan_UDanato: chmod 0755 /bin/bash && chown root:root /bin/bash03:27
wafflejockDuel: if you aren't concerned with the disk space you can just keep both options and you just pick at login which to run03:27
Danatojordan_U: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 959168 Nov 18 10:55 /bin/bash03:28
Duelwafflejock, well what If id only want to run Gnome?03:28
wafflejockDuel: yeah you'd just remove unity then.... I opted for just clean installing after backing up because I didn't want to deal with manually removing things and wasn't too far into configuring03:28
Jordan_UDanato: Looks good. Try running "bash" now.03:29
wilee-nileeDuel, There is a gnome only release, unity is a plugin in compiz running on gnome they share about 98%.03:29
wilee-nileeof gnome03:29
Duelwafflejock,  soo what does that mean03:30
wafflejockwhat I said or what wilee-nilee said?03:30
wilee-nilee!nounity | Duel03:30
ubottuDuel: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic03:30
Danatojordan_U: It Worked!! this feels like walking out of a hospital fully recovered, thanks a lot man :)03:30
DuelIm on the lastest ubuntu version03:31
Jordan_UDanato: You're welcome :) Still re-install bash for good measure.03:31
Duelwafflejock, Do I still need VB?03:31
wafflejockDuel: no virtual box is just an option so you can do a full OS install and run it as though it's an application within your OS, was just suggesting it to try things out03:32
wafflejockDuel: it's definitely not necessary for changing your actual desktop environment or any other packages03:32
Duelwafflejock, Just for testing out stuff kindove? :)03:33
notsocivilizedhello guys03:33
reisio'lo not03:33
wafflejockDuel: yeah just to throw caution to the wind and play with different OS/desktop options03:33
Danatogoing for a reboot, hopefully i wont have any trouble03:34
Duelwafflejock,  saying be careful right03:34
notsocivilizedi'm having trouble with grub... I installed Ubuntu in my macbook air. With Ubuntu comes grub2... Then, Ubuntu works beautifully and all... But when i select Mac OS X in grub, it wont load. It stays in a purple screen forever...03:35
wafflejockDuel: eh just saying when you're new and trying a lot of stuff out and learning you might stumble, and easier to recover if it's just a virtual box machine that gets messed up... if you mess up the main OS it's more heartache03:35
Duelwafflejock, I can just go slow and copy/paste lines in to terminal tho?03:35
Duelwell ones that i need to03:36
wafflejockDuel: yeah even so you may end up installing something that has a bug here or there... I'm not saying this happens often but you should be wary of which repositories you're adding and how reputable the source is03:36
Duelwafflejock, so I should re- look up the repository and then see if it works or?03:37
wafflejockDuel: well just good to see what's going on in the comments around a project and how many people are contributing/working on it and how recent work has been done... sometimes projects go stale and then you're more likely to run into problems you can't get help with03:39
Duelwafflejock, ooh. I know whatcha mean but now Im kindove sketched out if I mess up/.03:40
wafflejockDuel: well yeah that's why I'm saying go with installing Virtual box so anything that feels a bit sketchy you can at least try there first03:40
wafflejockDuel: generally if you find a stackoverflow.com or askubuntu.com question with an accepted answer for the same version of Ubuntu you have you're in good shape03:41
wafflejockDuel: and anything in the main repos is safe03:41
wafflejockDuel: but if you go out and just grab some package from some site you're putting your trust in whoever put out that package, I haven't had or seen any major issues but it's something to think about... same is true on any OS03:42
Duelwafflejock, I wanna get this dumb integrated thing outta here hahahaha03:43
Duelwafflejock, its not that bad, but its wierd, and gets annoying at times.03:44
apb1963I'm trying to update kde-plasma-desktop from 4.11.2 to 4.11.3 ...apt-get install tells me I already have the latest version but clearly I don't.  How can I get the update?03:45
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reisiowhy clearly?03:46
apb1963because it says so?03:46
apb1963About Kde03:47
apb1963Platform Version 4.11.203:47
apb1963Copy & paste right there03:47
xangua!latest | apb196303:47
ubottuapb1963: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.03:47
apb1963OK but I would like the update... it proclaims to fix a bug I reported.03:48
kaksddkfhi all, i used paragon NTFS instead of native ntfs-3g and it provide me more than twice copying speed as compared to ntfs-3g , but the problem is that i want to mount my NTFS partitions in r/w mode by default without any command everytime, and to copy files in to NTFS partitions, i need to use gksudo command, which is somewhat annoying, anybody please tell me, how to automount partititions with these paragon drivers in R/W mode for me(i am the only user on th03:48
apb1963One that crashes the desktop03:48
andrewpthorpIf I have a script in /etc/init, why doesn't it show up when I run `service --status-all` ?03:48
andrewpthorp(I'm not super familiar with upstart...yet )03:49
andrewpthorpDo I have to register it with upstart via initctl ?03:49
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge03:49
boborobotHi, I'm stuck needing to record a video that will only play from a windows 8 application. Does anyone know of a decent video/audio screencast program for windows?03:49
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates03:49
reisiokaksddkf: automount on bootup, or?03:49
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging03:49
ubottuThe packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring03:50
Duelwafflejock, okay Im going to get VB03:50
Duelwafflejock, I have the donwload already03:50
kaksddkfreisio: whatever, either at boot or i will like to mount them when i click their name in nautilus without sudo03:51
Duelwafflejock,  Go ahead and run it?03:51
wafflejockDuel: cool try following the guide I setup for the virtual box part, you can switch out the ISO for whatever you want03:51
kaksddkfreisio: problem is that when i click at partitions in nautilus(left pane); they get mounted but in read only mode03:52
kaksddkfreisio: also i think the drivers load to mount partitions, are native kernel drivers not paragon drivers, but when i mount some partitions with sudo command, they get mounted in my mentioned path and the speed is just awsome03:54
kaksddkfreisio: this would be awesome to mount them in r/w mode without supplying sudo command, like ntfs-3g do by default, but speed is too slow to live with03:56
reisiokaksddkf: what does 'mount' say about them when they're mounted the way you like?03:56
andrewpthorpWhat's the difference between `service --status-all` and `initctl list` ?03:58
kaksddkfreisio: i umount them first and then mount them with command mentioned in the paragon read me, and it just get mounted , but for normal user it is just a read only,owner ROOT because i mount them as root, using sudo command but without sudo command i am not able to mount them03:59
kaksddkfreisio: sudo mount -t ufsd /dev/sda5  /mnt/check/04:00
kaksddkfreisio: this command mounts ntfs partition sda5 into /mnt/check and it worked like a charm, but only read only mode, to get write access, i need to use gksudo nautilus and then perform operations04:01
k`im trying to add a shared folder04:02
k`how do I do it04:02
kaksddkfreisio: how to add some line in /etc/fstab , but there is no line for ntfs partitions in /etc/fstab and they get mounted in r-w mode when i click them with ntfs-3g, now i have uninstalled ntfs-3g in a hope that paragon drivers will automatically take over , but this didn't happened04:04
reisiokaksddkf: what does 'mount' say about them when they're mounted the way you like?04:04
kaksddkfreisio: i didn't understand04:05
kaksddkfreisio: what to tell you? i didn't understand04:05
kaksddkfreisio: command completes successfully without any error, that's it04:06
kaksddkfotherwise, i am not a linux geek04:06
kaksddkfreisio: i just want to make my system better that it no way, lags behind windows04:06
reisiokaksddkf: paste the line to do with the mount point04:06
reisiowell, it's lagging because you're using an ancient, foreign, poorly designed FS in a way it was never meant to be used :p04:07
kaksddkfsudo mount -t ufsd /dev/sda5  /home/kk/Desktop/check04:08
reisiokaksddkf: okay, ufsd is something you can use in /etc/fstab04:08
kaksddkfreisio: see above^^04:08
reisioas for plug-in mounting, you'd probably have to look through gvfs info04:08
kaksddkfreisio: hmm, but i never edited /etc/fstab04:08
reisiobut you could04:09
kaksddkfreisio: gvfs info, where to look for04:09
kaksddkfreisio: how to mount them in r/w mode, with r/w access to me without sudo04:10
reisiodpkg -L gvfs04:10
wizard_Awhen i insert my usb drive i get the following syslog: http://pastebin.com/QAs07rzX04:12
kaksddkfreisio: thanks, i will read it, but  whether /etc/fstab  will give me write access like native ntfs-3g were providing04:12
reisiokaksddkf: has options for that04:13
reisioman fstab04:13
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roosterngwizard are you trying to boot from it?04:14
roosterngnvm that question04:15
roosterngthere might be something wrong with the usb, try re installing the os on the usb04:15
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thebombzenHello, I've got a filesystem problem04:20
ubottuthebombzen,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:20
wizard_Ano i'm trying to read from it, it wont mount as well04:20
thebombzenI accidentally shrunk a logical LVM partition without shrinking the underlying ext4 filesystem04:20
thebombzensorry was typing04:20
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thebombzenI only cropped a small part off the filesystem, but I'd rather not lose the rest of the filesystem. How can I recover the filesystem? I tried e2fsck -fy and resize2fs but neither worked04:21
wizard_Ai already have ubuntu imstalled on my system, but when i insert a usb, led on usb goes up but usb does not show up in /media/04:22
thebombzenneither worked meaning they attempted to fix it but ran outside the partition and couldn't read or write outside04:22
wilee-nileewizard_A, Not in the home panel?04:23
wilee-nileewizard_A,Can you mount it, have you looked at it with gprated to see any errors?04:24
thebombzenis there a way I can recover the rest of my filesystem given that I only cropped off a small part?04:25
wizard_Aalso mount -l gives: http://pastebin.com/N9AyU3uJ04:27
wilee-nileewizard_A, what about sudo fdisk -l04:32
wizard_Ashows nothing04:33
wilee-nileewizard_A, You on a live cd/usb? no partitions at all?04:34
wizard_Aon i'm on a dual partition04:34
wizard_Asorry i did not go sudo04:35
wilee-nileewizard_A, pastebin it.04:35
kevinbeen asking this for awhile but no update, so gonna repeat: hey guys. so i recently upgraded from precise to saucy and now i've lost gcalctool... i have the package installed ("gcalctool is already the newest version.") but when i type gcalctool in my terminal, "The program 'gcalctool' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gcalctool" ... any ideas?04:38
reisiokevin: do what it says?04:38
kevinreisio: i do what it says and it says its already installed.04:39
kevinoh, it was renamed to gnome-calculator.04:40
shagelitokevin: reboot the sysem maybe ?04:40
kevinjust created a symlink for it04:41
thebombzencan anyone help me with the filesystem error I mentioned above?04:44
shagelitoAny one here to provide some help about a grub related problem ?04:46
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liucan anyone help me with the filesystem error I mentioned above?04:47
shagelitolooks like everybody is afk :/04:47
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:48
xirreWhat would I have to set chmod to make A) A file and B) a folder only writable but not readable? o.O I'm reading up on chmod and I'm confused.04:52
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions04:53
superjoeI just experienced a kernel panic and I don't know why. Is there a log somewhere I can check to learn more?04:55
xirreAlready read it.04:55
xirreWhich is why I'm here.04:55
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duoiHow do you guys feel about off-topic questions? :p05:01
superjoepretty sure there's an offtopic channel for that05:02
Mr_Midnight#defocus is getting interesting05:02
mnathaniDo I need to uninstall proprietary AMD Video drivers before installing a custom compiled kernel?05:05
wilee-nileeMr_Midnight, Oh yes the pinnacle of erudite discourse.05:05
reisioprobably need to reinstall them afterwards, though05:05
mnathaniok, thanks reisio05:05
DuelHow do I connect to someone that i was disconnceted from05:09
deegoDuel: IDk, call them up on the phone?05:10
wilee-nileeDuel, Ping their nick05:11
lee__guys .My terminal  PS1 is    lee@lee-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:~$         How to change it ?05:12
wilee-nilee!cn | YUKEY05:15
ubottuYUKEY: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw05:15
clipperWhat's the best way to recover data from an external hard drive? I've messed up completely05:15
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wilee-nileeclipper, In what way?05:17
loonytreeSo my ubuntu install is running really slowly. I recall someone telling me to reset something and it had fixed a previous install when it had this major lag issue.05:18
loonytreeAnyone know what would fix this?05:18
wheatthinclipper, I'd start (without furthering destroying your disk) to make a clone image of the drive05:18
wheatthinthen try a rescue on the img05:18
clipper<wilee-nilee> I somehow didn't back up my Documents folder, reinstalled (x)ubuntu and then realized I don't have the files, they used to be on the external hard drive but I think I deleted them before reinstalling the OS thinking that I was backing it up when I backed up the rest of the Home folder, somehow it got missed though05:19
wheatthinclipper, if it was overwritten, you're kinda out of luck05:20
roosterngThat sucks. I hope it was stuff that is easily replaceable05:21
clipperwheatthin, I thought that might be the case05:21
lee__ok,it solves .just change .bashrc   PS1  var05:21
wilee-nileeclipper, Is that home backed up otherwise, say if you wanted to recover the original Documents.05:21
clipperUnfortunately not roosterng, 10 years of music (creation and production) projects and files mostly05:22
ianorlinmake backups05:23
roosterngDang :( that always sucks when that happens. Thousands of hours invested and then in 5 minutes destroyed05:24
roosterngI remember I once lost about 2 TB worth of data. I was so depressed05:24
clipperianorlin, I did but somehow the one time I need a backup something was lost in the process. wilee-nilee, I didn't back it up as one whole folder, I already had some of it backed up in another directory (left over from windows backups) so I only manually backed up what I thought was missing05:25
cfhowlettroosterng, I killed only 50% of my digitally mastered music collection ...05:25
ubottuYUKEY,: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw05:25
clipperyeah completely gutting05:25
roosterngWell that's good  at least you got to save some of it05:26
clipperoh well, more of an excuse not to be dependent on Windows programs in Wine I guess, a new start and all that05:26
roosterngYeah, I try to stray away from windows programs. I usually go for open source programs05:27
roosterngLibre Office and Open Office are amazing, and I love google drive05:27
* ianorlin used openoffice back on windows05:28
clipperyeah I've been trying to and generally I can but music production is very different in linux, I wouldn't say it's bad but it's conceptually very different05:28
roosterngYeah, I like to do graphical stuff like using blender and gimp and I find it fairly easy05:29
roosterngOne problem that I am having in ubuntu 12.04 is that if I try to use the latest driver my system crashes when I restart the computer05:30
roosterngSo I have to use the older driver05:30
cfhowlettroosterng, driver?  kernel?05:30
roosterngI am using Nvidia Geforce 310m05:30
roosterngim gonna get the kernel for you 1 sec05:31
loonytreeCan anyone help me determine why my ubuntu install is lagging so much? It just stalls a ton, and once a kind person in here helped me fix it by resetting something. Perhaps it was resetting unity? I looked up a reset on unity and what i did didnt fix the lag. Im thinking he told me to do something else.05:32
ianorlinhow many programs are you running?05:32
roosterngThis is my kernel? I think I used the uname -arv command05:32
roosterngLinux roosterng 3.8.0-33-generic #48~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 24 16:28:06 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux05:32
loonytreezero programs. The lag is present right from boot05:32
clipperI have a similar issue roosterng, my amd graphics card keeps me stuck in 12.04 and does crazy stuff with my fans if I use the open source driver so I have to be careful about what I update05:32
loonytreeeven when i type in my password it takes forever for it to just load the desktop and log in05:32
Crimson_Roguerunning ubuntu 13.10; extremely slow video buffering. Any fixes for this?05:32
ianorlinum graphics card loneytree and how much ram05:33
loonytreeits built into the laptop, not sure05:33
loonytreeeither way its not a hardware issue05:33
loonytreeI had this problem before and someone gave me a command and it totally fixed everything05:33
wilee-nileeianorlin, install htop and check whats running and see how much memory and cpu is being used when it lags.05:33
Hilikuscan someone tell me how to speed up my bootup? here is the bootchart05:33
roosterngYeah it's weird in 12.04, I can run the latest driver just fine in 13.10 but in 12.04 I have to run the older driver05:33
clipperCrimson_Rogue do you have a torrent client open, even if you're not downloading anything?05:33
Hilikusi don't know how to analyze the image05:33
Crimson_Rogueno torrent clients open on the network, nothing is seeding/uploading or Downloading05:34
cfhowlettCrimson_Rogue, auto updates?05:34
Crimson_Rogueauto updates are disabled cfhowlett05:35
clipperI had an issue once, I could have no torrents uploading/downloading but default settings for connections was killing my router, just thought I'd ask05:35
Crimson_Rogueyeah, I know the torrent clients do kill bandwidth05:36
roosterngI don't know if this is like it for everyone but I have 2 laptops one is 64bit the other is 32. I find that if I install 64 bit Ubuntu on my 32 bit machine I find that I lag quite a bit, but when I put 32 bit Ubuntu on the 32 bit machine it works fine. Don't  know if that is whats happening to you crimson_rogue05:36
cfhowlettroosterng, 64 will never run well on 32.05:37
wilee-nileeroosterng, You can't put 64 bits on a 32 bit computer05:37
Crimson_RogueI have a 32 bit machine with ubuntu 32 bit installed (aka i686)05:37
geniicfhowlett: Hehe05:37
Crimson_Roguewell, you can.... but it won't work well05:37
wilee-nileeshow me one that boots05:38
wilee-nileeevn the cd05:38
Crimson_Roguethe computer will work too hard unnessecarily...05:38
Crimson_Rogueokay wilee-nilee; you've heard of virtualbox right?05:38
roosterngYeah I made the mistake of putting 13.10 64 bit on my 32 bit machine, I ended up downloading 32 bit05:38
geniiwilee-nilee: You can actually run a 64bit emulator on a 32bit machine and install to that. But craptons of overhead05:38
Crimson_Roguesupports 32 bit... but doesn't support 64 bit os, correct?05:38
wilee-nileeCrimson_Rogue, Thats not the same and I doubt you can there either.05:39
Crimson_Roguewilee-nilee, I have done it.05:39
evilwombatGreetings. I am trying to get Hibernation support working with an Ubuntu x86-64 system. It seems like I have swap working and the machine suspends, yet when resuming, the system boots normally rather than resume from swap. It seems that grub isn't passing 'resume=/dev/sdxxx' to the kernel. Before I hack up grub.cfg, is there a "proper" way to get update-grub and friends to add the 'resume=' option to the autogenerated grub config?05:39
Crimson_Rogueevilwombat: try google?05:39
wilee-nileeCrimson_Rogue, You say you have, that is your statement and you back peddling from a basic argument that never included a VM.05:40
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, already did. SNR was quite low, so I came here.05:40
Crimson_Rogueokay, sec...05:40
Crimson_RogueYes screen -r  will resume the previous session05:42
evilwombatMost hits are from Arch Linux and friends, and they use different systems for config management. I'd like to try things the "nice" ubuntu way before resorting to config hackery. I've already tested manually passing resume=/dev/sda3 to the kernel via grub and hibernation works - now just have to get the config properly updated05:42
Crimson_Roguenote: this is olde05:42
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Crimson_Rogueevilwombat: what version of ubuntu are you using?05:43
* ianorlin is using lubuntu 13.1005:43
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, I'm on 12.04 LTS05:43
macspleananybody know how to change the user in bash? it's right now postgres@macsplean and i want it to me macs@macsplean05:44
Crimson_Rogueevilwombat: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197829005:44
maum_hello, I compiled gcc4.6.3 source successfully, and I copied the source to another named folder and recompiled it but it still searching for previous path while make time. how can I fix this problem?05:44
geniimacsplean: You're logged in as the user postgres ?05:45
macspleangenii: im trying to set up postgres. it was a mistake05:45
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, that does not appear to be relevant to my problem05:45
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geniimacsplean: If you used su to get there, just use: exit05:45
macspleangenii: thanks!05:45
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, my suspend functionality is working fine. It is my hibernation that is busted, because the bootloader is not telling the kernel the name of the swap partition containing the resume image. Peeking at /etc/grub.d/ reveals references to /var/vm/sleepimage, but I haven't found much documentation on this05:46
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Crimson_Roguehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume evilwombat?05:47
evilwombatseems like there ought to be another grub.d item to look in /proc/swaps and add this as a candidate resume option when regenerating grub.cfg05:47
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, interesting. That makes a reference to a resume option by UUID, but I haven't seen any hooks in grub.d/ that invoke this. I'll dig a bit deeper there. Thanks.05:48
Crimson_Rogueit has hibernate debugging steps there too.. figured it might be worth a shot05:49
Crimson_Rogueyou don't by chance have an nvidea card, do you evilwombat?05:49
evilwombatNoone seems to really care about hibernation these days. My laptop has an odd mechanical problem where the battery connection glitches and all power is temporarily lost, so it's hibernate for me until they replace it05:50
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, I do, actually05:50
Crimson_Roguehave you installed nvidia-current through synaptic?05:50
lotuspsychjemorning to all05:50
Crimson_Roguehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/127253/suspend-and-resume-not-working-on-an-hp-dv7 @ evilwombat05:51
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, Hmmm. I seem to be on nvidia-319, whereas nvidia-current pulls in 304. Regardless, this problem is not with the nvidia card, but with the bootloader05:51
evilwombatMy problem is a very silly and very isolated grub thing. If there is no "clean" solution, I'll just manually patch it. But I thought with ubuntu there were all sorts of nice and clean ways of managing the configs05:52
evilwombatnot that I mind hacking it up ;)05:52
eossAny reason why sound would just randomly stop working? I log in as another user and sound works fine.05:52
Mr_MidnightI have a question... I installed Ubuntu, then I added the XUbuntu interface so I could have a second boot option... but now when I boot my system I get the XUbuntu splash screen... can that be changed back to ubuntu?05:53
eossI followed this and it didnt fix my problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting05:53
Duelhas anyone went from Ub untu onto Kdm?05:53
Crimson_Rogueare you sure it's not the uswsusp or TuxOnIce evilwombat?05:53
lotuspsychjeeoss: anything unusual in /var/log/syslog.1 ?05:53
Crimson_Rogueare you positive it's the kernel @ evilwombat?05:53
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, positive. Checked the kernel commandline, and didn't see a resume option. Added one manually and it started working. But I don't want to type the option out each time I reboot.05:54
evilwombator rather, resume05:54
Crimson_Rogueokay, so resume option not avaliable in kernel05:55
evilwombatresume option not passed to kernel05:55
evilwombatOh well. If there's no clean answer, I'll just manually add one to grub.cfg.05:55
evilwombatthanks for the help05:55
lotuspsychjeMr_Midnight: whats your ubuntu version?05:57
Gorrothi'm on ubuntu 13.10 in my VMs05:57
Crimson_Roguedo you have cryptsetup installed evilwombat?05:57
eosslotuspsychje:  kernel: [   28.188222] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio05:57
eossthen it says pulse audio daemon already running05:58
lotuspsychjeMr_Midnight: i think when you install xubuntu, it thinks you gonna use it as default, so you need to uninstall xubuntu or install a program to change bootslash screens05:59
lotuspsychjeeoss: did you try a pulse audio restart?05:59
Mr_Midnightlotuspsychje: so maybe if I reversed it and installed Xubuntu and then installed the Ubuntu-desktop package it would change to Ubuntu and do what I want?05:59
lotuspsychjeMr_Midnight: did you uninstall ubuntu after installing xubuntu-desktop?06:00
ola2does a file in tmp folder need permission to be read or write06:01
eosslotuspsychje: just tried it didnt work. o.O    I restarted too.....when I log in you hear that login audio but once im logged in audio stops06:01
lotuspsychjeMr_Midnight: try logout to xubuntu, and choose ubuntu from login window see if it changes your splash06:01
Crimson_Rogueevilwombat: Check for Broken Packages in synaptic06:01
lotuspsychjeeoss: and creating a fresh user fixes your audio?06:01
Mr_Midnightlotuspsychje: I have done that and it keeps the xubuntu splash but defaults to the ubuntu unity login06:01
eosslotuspsychje: not even a fresh user, but just logging in as an old user fixes audio, yes06:01
Duelunpacking files kdm-full06:01
Dueltaking forver!06:01
evilwombatCrimson_Rogue, thanks - no need. I think I've got this figured out - just added the resume option to /etc/default/grub and the config now looks good. Will test it out shortly. Good night06:02
lotuspsychjeMr_Midnight: you wanna keep using xubuntu? if not uninstall will fix it i think06:02
DuelI like gtg asap and this unpacking files taking to long06:03
Mr_Midnightlotuspsychje: I like using both at different times... I can live with the splash just figured I would ask and see if there was a solution though06:03
lotuspsychjeMr_Midnight: there are several tools for changing bootsplash, never tryed them myself06:04
Mr_Midnightlotuspsychje: I have it loaded on a small 32 GB flash drive so that I can boot any computer with it for troubleshooting or just to use my personalized environment as needed which isn't too often and like I said I can live with the splash the way it is but thanks for the ideas06:05
lotuspsychje!info plymouth | Mr_Midnight06:06
ubottuMr_Midnight: plymouth (source: plymouth): graphical boot animation and logger - main package. In component main, is required. Version 0.8.8-0ubuntu8 (saucy), package size 123 kB, installed size 439 kB06:06
lotuspsychjeMr_Midnight: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-change-boot-screen-theme-ubuntu-13-04/06:06
Mr_Midnightubottu and lotuspsychje: Thanks for the info :D06:07
ubottuMr_Midnight: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:07
eosslotuspsychje: Nov 18 01:02:36 EternalSilence pulseaudio[7149]: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.06:07
DuelIs there anyway I can stop Setting these things up and wait till tomorrow?06:09
lotuspsychjeeoss: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/186822/audio-stopped-working-suddenly-in-12-0406:09
lotuspsychjeDuel: plz use this channel for actual questions06:09
eosslotuspsychje: thats what i just tried, turned everything on in alsamixer still nothing06:10
lotuspsychjeeoss: how about deleting that .pulse from from /home/user and logout06:11
eosslotuspsychje: that worked, but now i can't adjust sound at all. top right corner sound icon won't let me adjust it06:15
eossdunno if that was messing with alsamixer or deleting pulse file06:15
lotuspsychjeeoss: maybe try the alsamixer now06:16
lotuspsychjesee what it does06:16
eosslotuspsychje: able to figure out how to default alsamixer config..so its not that06:20
eossmeh, when in doubt, reboot06:21
johnfluxI upgraded to ubuntu 13.10  but now don't have the glx extension06:23
johnfluxIt's an intel graphics chip06:23
johnfluxany ideas how to fix?  I've been googling without much luck06:23
eosslotuspsychje: reboot worked. thank you for the help man06:24
lotuspsychje!yay | eoss06:24
ubottueoss: Glad you made it! :-)06:24
eossyea that was weird..i wonder what caused that..ill never know lol06:24
shagelitoGreetings #debian. I have this dumb problem : i tryed to get over the live cd version and choose to set up a dual boot with w8. I played for like 48hrs, then while messing arround with the grub ( i cant even tell you what i did ..) it looks like i broke the whole thing. I can no longer boot neither with w8 or linux. Exept threw grub2 cd06:38
shagelitooops. greetings #ubuntu *06:38
cfhowlettshagelito, if the install went properly, your ubuntu is likely still present.06:39
shagelitocfhowlett: yep im running it atm !06:40
cfhowlettshagelito, so reinstall grub ...06:40
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub206:40
shagelitoits only a silly boot problem. But my 48h linux experience make it really hard to handle06:40
shagelitoi tryed ! thats how i made w8 unbootable, even via a grub2 cd06:41
cfhowlettshagelito, understood.  fixing it is fairly easy.  follow the link instructions06:41
kaksddkfhi all how to mount a NTFS partition with rw access to all users06:41
maum_I compiled gcc4.6.3 source successfully, and copied it to another named folder. and recompiled it. but it still searching for previous path for make. does anyone have an idea?06:42
shagelitowich one please ?06:42
kaksddkfi tried many things, but no success, like sudo mount -t ufsd /dev/sda5 /home/xyz/Desktop/ -o umask=00006:42
kaksddkfonly ROOT is the owner and root has write access, i need both read and write access , without messing with commands, like just click on nautilus left pane, and that's it.06:43
kaksddkfis there any way to do that06:44
kaksddkfthere should be a way to do that, i recently uninstalled NTFS-3G and these drivers are horribly slow06:44
kaksddkfi installed paragon NTFS drivers and they worked like a charm, but the only problem is that, read only06:44
kaksddkfhow to solve that problem ^^06:45
shadytvkaksddkf, forgive me as im not very experience in this matter but couldnt you just chmod the permissions of the drive?06:49
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decimal_any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted?06:51
decimal_resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-root06:51
decimal_resize2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)06:51
decimal_The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!06:51
FloodBot1decimal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.06:51
wheatthin!paste | decimal_06:53
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decimal_wheatthin wow. much helpful. very paste. so useful.06:54
ubottudecimal_,: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines06:56
cfhowletthelmut_, greetings.06:56
decimal_two useful posts in a row. I must be on a roll06:56
cfhowlettdecimal_, I think we can all agree that sarcasm will not get you the help you seek.06:57
decimal_I do wonder if people make such inanae reponsese because they have no idea how to answer the question properly.06:58
wheatthindecimal_, we are just trying to help us help you, so enough sarcasm.06:58
decimal_you saw my question, so go to town06:58
wheatthinlol with that I'll ignore.. thanks06:58
deper29maum_: use gcc-config07:01
CADBOTblackscreen after logging in, attempted to install a new video driver and probably broke something, any quick way to roll back?07:01
deper29CADBOT: did you try using the nomodeset flag in grub?07:02
cfhowlett!nomodeset|CADBOT, run nomode and reconfigure?07:02
ubottuCADBOT, run nomode and reconfigure?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter07:02
CADBOTI'll give that a go07:02
decimal_any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted? it appears that resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-rootn doesn't work (i.e. The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!)07:02
CADBOTI'm running AMD proprietary drivers if that makes a difference07:03
deper29CADBOT: you could try the open source drivers and see if that makes a difference07:03
CADBOTThat's what I was running before. Performance wasn't good enough.07:04
deper29CADBOT: and that is the downside of the opensource ones :(07:04
wheatthinCADBOT, even though it's totally not needed, you could generate your own xorg.conf file via driver, and see if that helps07:05
wheatthinCADBOT, sudo nvidia-xconfig07:06
CADBOTIt's AMD not Nvidia07:07
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CADBOTI'm running /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh right now07:07
CADBOTTo try and reinstall them07:08
wheatthinDid it fail during install?07:08
wheatthinI guess you can try, but I don't think it'll help.07:08
decimal_any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted? it appears that resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-rootn doesn't work (i.e. The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!)07:08
CADBOTYeah, before I installed these drivers things were working (although slowly lol). after I installed AMD catalyst and rebooted07:09
CADBOTThe login screen shows up fine07:09
CADBOTbut then after I log in it's black screen07:09
CADBOTSo I'm bringing up a ctrl alt f2 terminal07:09
wheatthinahh that's where you went wrong, you didn't use Ubuntu's repo for installation.. so go ahead and uninstall and use ubuntu's repo07:10
CADBOTIs the version in that repo new enough?07:10
wheatthinDo you have the latest ati card or something?.. and it should be.07:11
CADBOTafter that uninstall I'm back into my desktop ok07:12
CADBOTI'll try installing through the repo07:12
CADBOTthanks btw!07:12
maum_deper29: -bash: gcc-config: command not found07:14
decimal_any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted? it appears that resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-rootn doesn't work (i.e. The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!)07:14
CADBOTI think my prlbem last time was I didn't generate a new xorg.conf before booting07:15
CADBOTAny thoughts on the low latency kernel?07:16
CADBOTWhat are the tradeoffs when using it07:16
wheatthinno clue :)07:18
CADBOTJust curious XD07:19
cfhowlettCADBOT, if you are creating music and need to avoid the processing lag during recording, the low latency kernel is for you.  otherwise, no ...07:19
cfhowlettCADBOT, more in #opensourcemusicians and #ubuntustudio07:19
CADBOTI was also asking about it in the #ardour channel07:20
CADBOTAnd yep, it was for music purposes07:20
CADBOTHowever, I also use my system for other things like gaming, so  I want to make sure it wouldn't harm me there07:20
CADBOTI'll ask in those channels though, thanks!07:21
ola2plz i want to know something07:21
cfhowlettCADBOT doubt that it'll harm, don't see how it'd help07:21
ola2does tmp foder allow file permissions07:21
CADBOTI want it to help with audio recording07:21
CADBOTI don't expect it to help at all with gaming07:21
CADBOTJust want to make sure it won't harm it :)07:22
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wizard_Asudo fdisk -l gives: http://pastebin.com/wrPkUS5w07:24
wizard_Aproblem is pen drive wont read while led glows07:25
wheatthinwizard_A, is it mounted?07:27
figuringoutim trying to set up a ubuntu server for about 20 kids -- i want them to be able to ssh in, and make basic HTML pages. i have their usernames created -- how do i enable ssh for each one of them?07:27
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server07:28
wheatthinfiguringout, just create individual standard user accounts07:28
milamberfiguringout: sudo apt-get install openssh-server07:28
figuringoutmilamber: so once the standard user accounts exist and openssh-server is installed, these users should be able to ssh in normally?07:29
wheatthinand then do what milamber suggested07:29
milamberfiguringout: then you can look up how to customize the server and set up what are essentially links so that students can have a directory that is available from the web, something along the lines of www.yourserver.com/~loginname07:30
milamberfiguringout: you will have to open the ports for your server to have access from the outside if you want them to be able to work from home07:30
figuringoutmilamber: i'm unable to ssh with openssh running, im running this ubuntu instance on amazon AWS, wondering if there's some setting that that's screwing this up.07:31
figuringouthow do i open up ports?07:31
milamberfiguringout: you are going to have to be more specific, what do you mean by unable?07:32
aeon-ltdfiguringout: using your firewall07:32
wheatthinfiguringout, I'd do a port scan and see if port 22 is open.07:32
figuringoutPermission denied (publickey)07:32
figuringoutim doing ssh user@ec2server07:32
wheatthinI guess you gotta import the publickey07:32
figuringoutwheatthin: i dont want the kids to have to deal with key-based access, any ideas on how to set that up? i just want to assign them plaintext passwords07:33
milamberfiguringout: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/AccessingInstancesLinux.html07:35
figuringoutmilamber / wheatthin: thanks, on it. lets see how this goes07:35
mnathaniwhats an actively developed visual grub editor I can use these days?07:36
milamberfiguringout: check back in if you have troubles, just be aware that we will ask exactly what you did to get where you are07:36
kubanchow can i put this command into .sh file so i can run it: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge07:36
wizard_Athis is the log that i get while i insert usb drive http://pastebin.com/ReAYzHKX07:37
wheatthinkubanc, you can echo it into it07:38
kubancwheatthin, you're saying echo "command"07:39
floatingpointhow would I go about resizing a partition?07:40
cfhowlett!gparted|floatingpoint, gparted07:40
ubottufloatingpoint, gparted: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php07:40
floatingpointsorry cfhowlett. gparted won't work in this case. I have a nested partition on SDA5 that gparted doesn't see07:40
floatingpointI'm nor sure if it helps, but the TYPE is lvm07:41
figuringoutno luck folks :( I changed the sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication yes". still getting Permission denied(publickey)07:42
figuringoutalso restarted ssh server07:43
ariel__Some ppl here user buntun 12.04 lts on Asus EEE PC 1225 C ?..07:43
ariel__Some ppl here user ubuntu 12.04 lts on Asus EEE PC 1225 C ?..07:43
ubottuariel__,: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.07:43
greyhatpython<figuringout> re-install SSH07:43
figuringoutgreyhatpython: that's the same thing as reinstalling openssh-server?07:44
ariel__OK thanks..07:44
greyhatpython<figuringout> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193687507:45
ariel__I'm ubuntu 12.04 lts user on Asus EEE PC 1225 C..and i got problem with graphics card..unknow result...07:45
ariel__does anybody have experienced with graphics card Asus EEE PC 1225 C on ubuntu 12.04 lts here ..??07:47
Piper|Awaydo asus EEE's have gpu's? and of what ilk? Im guessing your problem would be driver related Ariel07:47
bazhangariel__, please give us the exact card, your exact issue, what problems you are having with it07:47
floatingpointwow. so usless. much nerd. many neckbeard.07:48
ariel__yes Piper|Away ...here 2 Additional Driver but not yet active..07:48
figuringoutgreyhatpython: that seemed to do it, tx! now passwords are not working, sigh.07:48
ariel__drm driver for the intel GMA500 and intel Cedarview graphics  driver ..? which one should be match..?07:49
figuringoutis there any sort of web-based control panel to manage this process? of managing a webserver, allocate users space, etc07:49
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Piper|AwayDriver overview07:50
Piper|AwayThis page details support for the Intel GMA500 "Poulsbo" video hardware with Ubuntu 12.04 and higher.07:50
Piper|AwayUnfortunately the support for this hardware is extremely limited on Linux. There are several drivers, but all lack certain basic features, such as future and current maintenance or support for suspend and hardware acceleration.07:50
Piper|AwayCurrently, the best supported driver for Ubuntu is gma500_gfx.07:50
Piper|AwayFor obsolete and unsupported drivers see GMA500 Obsolete Drivers07:50
ariel__Hi..anybody here from indonesian too ?, im from Batam07:50
FloodBot1Piper|Away: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:50
bazhang!id | ariel__07:51
ubottuariel__: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia07:51
Piper|Awayariel >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo07:51
Piper|Awaynot looking good my friend07:51
Piper|Awaybut GL07:51
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greyhatpython<figuringout>  what's the error?07:52
figuringoutjust that the password is incorrect,i.e. it just asks me for a new password07:53
greyhatpythonok give a new password07:53
figuringouti checked the /etc/shadow file and the password i'm typing is correct07:54
figuringoutroot seems to be able to ssh in fine now, just the new users that are a problem07:55
wheatthin/etc/shadow won't give you the password.07:55
greyhatpythonMay be hashed and checked it07:56
figuringoutgreyhatpython: i just created these 20 users using the useradd command, so i know the passwords.07:57
figuringouti'm wondeirng if i shoudl delete all uesrs and start again07:57
wheatthinfiguringout, just reset their passwords07:58
greyhatpythonyeah reset!07:58
figuringoutwheatthin: what does that mean? how to do that?07:58
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wheatthinfiguringout, sudo passwd <username> <password>07:58
geirhafiguringout: don't use useradd(1) to create users, use adduser(1) instead07:59
figuringoutgeirha: i actually wanted to use "newusers" -- but it would give me a baad malloc memory crash error everytime i gave it a file that was more than one line long07:59
geirhafiguringout: wow, sounds like a serious bug with newusers08:01
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shagelitogreetings #ubuntu. I screwed up my dualboot. i'm a 48hrs linux user, so everything looks a bit weird to me. I would like to be able to boot properly, some help would be greatly appreciated.08:01
wheatthinfiguringout, did you try and use a semicolon for a seperator instead?08:01
figuringoutwheatthin: no, let me try right away actually08:02
aeon-ltdshagelito:  describe it the best you can08:04
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figuringoutwheatthin: no luck -- "invalid line"08:05
figuringoutand with ":" im getting core dump. going back to useradd / adduser :p08:06
wheatthinlol ok was just a suggestion.08:07
wheatthinbut yeah you can change each user's password with   sudo passwd <username> <newpass>08:08
figuringoutno luck btw, deleted all users, and did "useradd" again -- unable to login :(08:08
wheatthinfiguringout, go into each user directory and delete the known_hosts file :)08:09
wheatthinthen go and relogin. It should regenerate a public key08:10
wheatthinit's a must for a ssh handshake08:10
figuringout~/.ssh only has a file called "authorized_keys"08:11
figuringoutnothing else08:11
wheatthinahh then that guide the first guy suggested would be helpful to import the .pem08:12
wheatthinobviously that host only allows authorized keys, and none to be generated.08:12
figuringoutresetting password helps actually08:12
figuringoutthough deleting users and re-adding them didnt :( go figure08:13
figuringoutdo you know of a gui-esque web-based control panel that will help me set this up? im guessing web-server admins do these things all the time08:14
auronandace!zentyal | figuringout08:14
ubottufiguringout: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).08:14
figuringoutgreat -- and it does user management?08:14
Jimi_NeutralMorning peeps. I have an old TV that is HDMI but does not have wirless capability. I was thinking about using tyhe raspeberry pi i have, connected with an HDMI cable, wirless dongle plugged into it to stream from my Synology NAS. Its a temp measure until we get cable tv sorted. Any ideas how I can go about this?08:17
auronandaceJimi_Neutral: ubuntu does not run on the pi08:18
auronandaceJimi_Neutral: likely better off asking in ##linux08:18
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Jimi_Neutralok ty08:19
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ubottuaspirina77: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».08:32
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pirreti have ubuntu 12.04.3 server, it's a VPS, i removed apache2, and now every time i want to to dist-upgrade it wants to install apache2-doc apache2.2-bin back08:35
pirretwhy is this, how i can completeley remove everything apache related so it wont come back on dist-upgrade08:35
pirretapache was, pre-installed on that vps08:35
ph8_hi all, i've got a usb stick that was encrypted with truecrypt but has been yanked before unmounting from a windows machine and is now 'unmountable'. I'm on a new ubuntu system and it's just /dev/sdb - i can't dd it because it says it's read only, i've checked hdparm and turned read only off but i'm still getting the same problem - any idea where i might be able to start to overwrite this bugger?08:37
starnixHello people, I cannot lock screen. ubuntu 13.10 gnome 3.10?08:37
bazhangstarnix, gnome PPA?08:38
starnixbazhang: yes08:38
bazhangstarnix, did you contact the PPA maintainer and file a bug with that?08:38
wilee-nileeph8_, Overwrite? open gparted unmount it and make a new partition.08:38
starnixbazhang, I just installed, ubuntu 13.10 yesterday night, and facing that issue.08:39
bazhangstarnix, how did you get that PPA so quickly?08:39
starnixbazhang: what does that mean?08:40
bazhangstarnix, gnome 3.10? thats the one from a PPA08:40
starnixbazhang, where do I file a bug for this?08:41
bazhangstarnix, contact the PPA maintainer08:41
cjmacHey, I just installed samba on my ubuntu 12.04 box (which is joined to a windows domain via centrify) and it's started saying "importing account for xxxxx.... ok" for every user in the domain. What on earth is going on?08:41
cjmacThere's, like, 130,000 users in this domain, so I think I'll be here a while...08:41
starnixbazhang: ppa gnome3-team ?08:42
bazhangstarnix, contact them, if thats the one that supplied that PPA08:43
impradeepyhello guys08:49
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duoiquestion-- i'm updating && upgrading and ive just been asked if i want to keep or update psd.conf. is there any drawbacks with updating it?08:58
babinlonstonhi all , after reinstall ubuntu keyboard and mouse not working , how to resolve it08:58
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shagelitoanyone here up to help me fix a silly problem about a grub instals ?09:24
LigHGreetings. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, updated to kernel 3.11 (generic-lts-saucy + eol-upgrade): nvidia-304 building kernel driver fails; nvidia-319 building kernel driver fails (Bad return status for module build)09:26
wilee-nileeshagelito, Have you tried the bootrepair app, it generates a bootinfo summary that is helpful in diagnosing if it is not fixed.09:26
LigHThe installation mentioned to check a log file, but I forgot which. In which file is the update log?09:27
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sandman13is there a way to recover the partition made in windows deleted while installing ubuntu09:31
LigHIt is probably /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-319/319.32/build/make.log -- according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-319/+bug/125182909:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 1184691 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-319-updates (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1251829 nvidia kernel module fails to build with kernel 3.10 or later [error: void value not ignored as it ought to be]" [High,Triaged]09:34
wilee-nileesandman13, You could try testdisk, be backed up/cloned though09:34
wilee-nileesandman13, This partition gone or just showing unallocated?09:35
noobmastahI just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, this machine has two drives, one is having one ntfs partition with my data and the other one is having the ubuntu installation and vista recovery partition. WHen booting I get Err2Err3 Operating system not found, grub installed without problems, what could be wrong!???09:35
sandman13gone the partition was made in windows09:35
wilee-nileenoobmastah, Try booting from both HD's09:36
geirhanoobmastah: Did you specify where to install grub during installation?09:37
noobmastahgeirha: No I was not prompted09:37
wilee-nileesandman13, What was in  the partition?09:37
noobmastahwilee-nilee: Yeah it mentions just one disk in the BIOS :(09:38
wilee-nileenoobmastah, Is one a slave?09:38
noobmastahwilee-nilee: I don't know? :(09:38
sandman13some spreadsheet09:38
noobmastahwilee-nilee: I guess they are SATA disks09:38
sandman13images, isos exe files and stuffs09:39
wilee-nileenoobmastah, I like to see a script that is generated by an app or a download and some commands to really see what's going on, save all the questions.09:40
wilee-nileesandman13, if it is not replaceable you could try testdisk back up what is there, and if you installed over it that will be gone if its recovered09:41
wilee-nileenoobmastah, This app may fix it, save the bootinfo summary none the less. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair09:42
noobmastahwilee-nilee: I opened it, they are two sata disks. I can draw a little schema :)09:43
wilee-nileenoobmastah, Not interested I want that bootinfo summary.09:43
noobmastahwilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/Caarn0yd09:44
wilee-nileenoobmastah, basically we are missing info the script will give a lot then we can see whats up.09:45
noobmastahwilee-nilee: Okay09:45
wilee-nileenoobmastah, The app may fix it.09:45
noobmastahwilee-nilee: I will boot it up09:45
wilee-nileenoobmastah, The app runs from a live cd/usb or the ubuntu install.09:46
Seldaekheya, I disabled unity 3d in compiz config settings and now the whole main toolbar vanished, along with alt-tab switcher etc.. any idea how to get some of it back? :)09:48
djdiehi i have installed Xchm ofr read .chm files (ebook) but the user interface is very ugly, do you know a swag sofware for read ebook ?09:49
hitsujiTMOSeldaek: enable unity 3d in compiz09:49
djdieSeldaek: do you try a reset unity ?09:50
djdieSeldaek: unity --reset09:50
SeldaekhitsujiTMO: I can't access the settings anymore without the launcher (can't find the binary in the termianl)09:51
Seldaekdjdie: let's try that, thanks09:51
sandman13wilee-nilee: i chose delete windows while installing ubuntu. does testdisk recovers data from such condition too?09:52
hitsujiTMOSeldaek: binary should be ccsm09:52
hitsujiTMOSeldaek: what version of ubuntu are you using as unity --reset does not work after 12.0409:52
noobmastah1wilee-nilee: What exactly do you want now :)09:53
noobmastah1wilee-nilee: ah i see09:53
SeldaekhitsujiTMO: it's 12.04 and it seems to have worked, but thanks for the ccsm trick09:53
DJones@comment 58224 Comment on quitting "Fuck you all" despite getting help & support/w 2009:54
ubottuComment added.09:54
noobmastah1wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6436649/09:54
wilee-nileenoobmastah1, We don;t support mint here, however you are just missing the grub bootloader in the sda mbr that app will fix that.09:58
noobmastah1wilee-nilee: Mint = Ubuntu09:59
djdiehi i have installed Xchm for read .chm files (ebook) but the user interface is very ugly, do you know a swag sofware for read ebook ?09:59
wilee-nilee!mint | noobmastah09:59
ubottunoobmastah: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:59
wilee-nileenoobmastah1, Inspite of no support I did give you the answer to fix it.09:59
noobmastah1wilee-nilee: Okay thanks!10:00
tim167hi, how do i install ubuntu on a macbook air ?10:00
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excognactim167: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir10:03
tim167excognac: i was hoping there was a simpler method that didn't require using OSX10:04
excognactim167: which model u have?10:05
tim167excognac: not sure, but the OSX on it is broken (doesn't boot anymore)10:05
excognactim167: did u try a live-cd?10:06
dupondjeHi. How to force unmount a stale NFS mount. The NFS server is unavailable. But umount -lf /mnt/nfsmount does not work. It keeps waiting :(10:06
tim167excognac: macbook air doesn't have a cd drive10:06
excognactim167: whatever, live usb then?10:07
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tim167excognac: well that's my question, i was hoping there was some not overly complicated way to make a mac bootable usb10:07
tim167and that doesnt require OSX10:07
excognactim167: http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-dual-boot-ubuntu-in-macbook-air10:08
excognacwell, you need a usb stick with ubuntu on it for sure10:08
noobmastahtim167: you can just boot ubuntu from your usb by holding some option button and an other one don't remember, that was just a regular ubuntu usb we used last week and that worked without any problems10:09
jczI would like to install ubuntu core rootfs on SD card. Basically, im following this instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core/InstallationExample but i have problems with chrooting and installing the kernel because it is an armhf rootfs. Any ideas how i could bypass this problem?10:10
tim167noobmastah: ok, that would be cool, i guess i can just try that,... its an old macbook air though, one of the first models i think10:11
jczI though about booting the kernel directly from u-boot loader and then installing the kernel in the rootfs but im not sure about some steps10:11
noobmastahtim167: I'm not sure how to install it either, but live usb should be no problem. Is it having an intel processor?10:12
tim167noobmastah: yes intel for sure10:12
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dupondjeAnyone? :)10:14
tim167noobmastah: problem is: i need hdiutil which is mac only ?10:14
noobmastahtim167: Why do you need that?10:15
tim167is there an alternative to "hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o" on ubuntu ?10:15
tim167step 1.3 at http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-dual-boot-ubuntu-in-macbook-air10:15
noobmastahtim167: what does it?10:15
tim167Convert the iso file to img format10:15
noobmastahtim167: why do you want that?10:15
tim167to make bootable usb from iso10:16
noobmastahtim167: you can dd the iso file directly no need to convert10:16
tim167noobmastah: are you sure ?10:16
gallokhi all10:16
gallokanyone can pass me a good link about pxe on ubuntu?10:17
noobmastahtim167: yes10:17
tim167noobmastah: hmm, ok, then i wonder why they add that step on that page10:17
tim167noobmastah: anyway I'm gonna try 'unetbootin'10:18
noobmastahtim167: I don't know maybe dd doesn't support it on the mac, but I've made so many usb sticks with iso files and they all worked so no I don't see the problem. :P10:18
dupondjeNobody got an idea on how to umount a stale nfs mount when umount -lf /mnt/nfsmount does not work?10:19
tim167noobmastah: ok, thanks :)10:20
iamarealboyHi !10:20
tim167noobmastah: so I could simply do "dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/path/to/usb" or such?10:21
noobmastahtim167: correct10:22
tim167noobmastah: cool, I'll try it out, thanks10:22
sandman13can testdisk be used to recover the only selected files from the partition?10:25
wilee-nileesandman13, Look for your self. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Undelete_files_from_NTFS_with_TestDisk10:28
wilee-nileesandman13, That is from a partition still there, you have deleted the partition though.10:29
wilee-nileesandman13, here is the main page. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk10:30
sandman13looking right now10:31
eph3meralaanyone else having problems with kdevelop and gdb on Ubuntu 13.10 ? (sorry for-xpost)10:31
sandman13installed test disk too10:31
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__marcoHello, where I can find the list of gtk's default icons used in ubuntu? Ideally will be from version 12.04 onwards10:38
Gorroth__marco: __polo10:44
LUGXexist a website or link to a list about all LUG from USA?10:45
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MonkeyDustwhat's LUG?10:46
LUGXLinux User Group10:46
LUGXneed more information for my linuxproject LUGX - Linux User Group indeX its a global index fo all LUG10:47
LUGXcoming soon 2014 on lugx.org10:48
__marcoGorroth: I'm sorry, what is __polo?10:48
Gorrotha response to marco10:49
Gorrothit's a game10:49
LUGXbut polo is a german car model too10:49
djdiewhat the most beautiful pdf reader on ubuntu/linux ?10:49
ubottuThe Portable Document Format is created by Adobe; PDF files are viewable in Ubuntu with Xpdf, Okular, Evince and also Adobe Reader (free download, but closed source)10:49
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mathfreak_hey all. I don't know what the /dev/dm-0 /dev/dm-1 etc. files are for or what they represent.11:00
mathfreak_What are the /dev/dm-? for?11:01
ddssccouldn't download reposirotry indexes http://paste.ubuntu.com/6436851/11:02
mathfreak_ddssc: I think the medibuntu project has closed down, since all their work has been merged with the official repos11:03
DJonesddssc: medibuntu is a dead project11:03
Gorrothi think i broke ubottu11:04
Gorrothnevermind... must have a timeout on it11:04
ddsscmathfreak_: right. so how do I fix my update. synaptic is refusing to cooperate11:05
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mathfreak_ddssc: Settings->Repositories. Click "Other Software", and disable any non-existent medibuntu repos.11:06
cfhowlettmay as well delete medibuntu; she gone11:07
user___i feel like X could be running more smoothly/quickly.  from this pastebin after installing my graphics driver does it seem like there are major errors i can easily fix http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA11:08
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frustrated_joei just want to see if someone has the same frustrations as i have:11:10
frustrated_joei had ubuntu 12.04 (dual boot, installed via WUBI), updated to 12.10 and then wanted to update to 13.04 (via ubuntu update)... when i had the 12.04 first, and the 12.10 everything worked PERFECT11:12
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, wubi is for TESTING not for long term installation.  Expect  breakage11:12
Ben64wubi isn't meant for more than testing11:12
frustrated_joewhen going to 13.04, the installation went sour, and i had to reinstall 12.04, and eversince i have a shit ubuntu: nothing works, updates don't work, programs can't be installed, and i tried to reinstall 4 times already, with every time the same effect11:13
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, dual boot is the recommended option.  If you can't/wont' dual boot, consider virtualbox.11:13
Animus74does anyone know how to uninstall recent updates ? after i updated i vouldnt boot ( low graphics)11:13
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, you might also consider clean installing rather than online update.11:13
frustrated_joei can not use anything else tha wubi, since my HD already has already the max number of partitions11:13
Ben64you can use logical partitions11:14
frustrated_joewhen i try the DVD to install, i can not partion my HD11:14
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, false.  virtualbox doesnt' need a partition and is more stable than wubi11:14
mathfreak_frustrated_joe: Use extended and logical partitions.11:14
frustrated_joecan can only choose one of my four partions, not create a new one11:14
Ben64logical passes that limit11:14
frustrated_joei have no idea what are extended and logical partitions11:14
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap11:14
Ben64animus74: please don't do that11:14
Animus74oh sorry11:15
Joupifrustrated_joe : Either go to logical parts or virtualbox is the best option (and avoid going from LTS to non LTS unles you really need it ... if you want to remain stable)11:15
Animus74i was randomly exploring this app11:15
frustrated_joebut why do i keep having so many problems with ubuntu now, as when i first installed it, added programs, etc, ALL worked without any problem what so ever, why suddenly with reinstall the same way it seems every time more problematic11:16
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, you're running ubuntu under window's file structure.  WHEN windows defrags, so goes your ubuntu.11:16
Ben64Animus74: you should provide more details to help with your problem. what video card, what drivers for it, how did you get said drivers11:17
mathfreak_Animus74: How does it fail to boot? What sort of error messages show up? What's your graphics card?11:17
Animus74intel graphics . intel pentium . ubuntu 13.04 . it says low graphics mode11:17
Animus74is there any way i can post a picture on this forum thing11:18
DJones!imagebin | Animus7411:18
ubottuAnimus74: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.11:18
frustrated_joeso, it seems that i should a install not using WUBI, but a normal dual boot. i am an absolute noob, is there some easy step by step way? now i have 4 partitions: 3 systemthingies, and the main one11:18
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, get the 32 bit ubuntu.  Install virtualbox on windows.  Install 32 bit ubuntu inside virtualbox.11:19
JoupiFrustrated_joe : agreed with cfhowlett, it is the easiest if your machine goes well enough ...11:19
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, OR  you could install the ubuntu, then virtualbox and put your windows inside virtualbox.  depends on your needs.11:19
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox11:19
frustrated_joewhy the going back to the 32bit?11:19
mathfreak_frustrated_joe: There a plenty of guides online. The main step during the install is splitting the main partition (which should sit under an extended partition) into two partitions, so you end up with more partitions than the hard limit of 4.11:20
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, cuz your virtualbox likely won't run in 64 bit11:20
Joupicfhowlett : virtuabox can run both without problem, I have 64 on mine. It only depends on the host OS if it is 32 or 6411:21
frustrated_joe@mathfreak: could you tell me where to find such a noob guide, and also how to tell later which partition is which in the installation menu of ubuntu, since i have noticed they have not the same names there11:21
maxminhi, i want to install Ubunut 12.04.03 as windows installer. and i want to install it offline.11:22
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maxminwhere could i get complete Ubuntu 12.04  Offline installer?11:22
Animus74okay he message says : the system is runnig in low graphics mode11:22
mathfreak_frustrated_joe: I followed the Community Ubuntu docs for dual-booting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot11:23
frustrated_joeand what about the option of installing ubuntu on a external HD? is it possible to run all programs that way as well?11:23
Animus74your screen graphics card and input settings could not be detected correctly . you will need to configure these yourself11:23
Animus74it started after an update11:24
mathfreak_frustrated_joe: If you use the LiveCD, you're given the option to automatically resize the partitions for you. The partition that gets split is going to be the really big one (since that's where all your data and programs sit)11:24
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mathfreak_frustrated_joe: It is possible to run Ubuntu off of an external, but beware that your performance will be very unsatisfactory, since USB2.0 has a limit of 480 Mbps (USB3.0 is a bit better with this).11:24
frustrated_joetaken from the windows dualbootlink: "Choose the first option, which should say "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup". Specify the size of the new partition by dragging the slider at the bottom of the window". With me he never asked this possibility of the new partion by dragging the slider11:25
mathfreak_frustrated_joe: that dialogue isn't presented on a wubi install.11:25
MonkeyDu1tah wubi11:26
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, ^^^^11:26
frustrated_joesorry, now i was talking when i entered the live CD that i made, 64bit11:26
cfhowlettfrustrated_joe, mixing your tutorials is not the safest route11:26
MonkeyDu1twubi means: will ultimately be inefficient11:26
frustrated_joei don't agree, up until i wanted to upgrade, wubi was perfect, never had a problem under 12.1011:27
MonkeyDu1tfrustrated_joe  wubi isnt meant to be upgraded, it's a test installtion11:27
Animus74oh i found out i can access ttty311:27
Animus74can i uninstall updates from here?11:28
maxminI want to install Ubunut 12.04.03 as windows installer. and i want to install it offline. where could i get complete Ubuntu 12.04  Offline installer?11:28
mathfreak_maxmin: As a windows installer? That sounds like you want to use wubi. Our current discussion suggests that wubi shouldn't be used for anything serious.11:29
cfhowlettmaxmin, windows installer = wubi.  Expect very sub-optimal results.  wubi is for testing not for long-term installlation11:29
MonkeyDu1tI had hoped wubi would be gone and forgotten forever11:29
frustrated_joecan i try to install the 13.04 using live DVD, and leaving the 12.04 wubi-version on the pc as well, until i've got the 13.04 up and running?11:30
cfhowlettMonkeyDu1t, dracula syndrome.  just when you thought it was dead ...11:30
mathfreak_frustrated_joe: Yes.11:30
user___i feel like X could be running more smoothly/quickly. from this pastebin after installing my graphics driver does it seem like there are major errors i can easily fix http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA - kubuntu 13.1011:30
frustrated_joeso, my main problem will be the partion, as i understand it?11:30
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frustrated_joethe biggest headbreaker11:30
Ben64Animus74: pastebin "lshw -C VIDEO" and "lspci"11:31
Ben64frustrated_joe: yep11:31
MonkeyDu1tfrustrated_joe  wubi creates a space inside windows, it's not really a partition11:31
mathfreak_frustrated_joe: Yup. The automatic partitioner should handle all the heavy work for you. You just need to specify how much space you want to split between ubuntu and windows.11:31
Ben64mathfreak_: not when he already has 4 partitions11:31
frustrated_joebut, like i said, when inserting the dvd, he did NOT ask for the "slider" to partition11:32
maxmincfhowlett: then can i install it(Ubuntu 12.04) form an ISO image for long term?11:32
mathfreak_Ben64: Windows sits under an extended partition.11:32
Ben64frustrated_joe: because in order to make more than 4 partitions, an extended partition must be created, which takes up one of the four primary partitions, so you'll have to find one you can delete, at least temporarily11:32
MonkeyDu1tfrustrated_joe  what you can try: use the live dvd's gparted11:32
Animus74syntax incorrect?11:33
frustrated_joeso, i should make a new partion in windows 7 first, and then run the live DVD?11:33
Joupifrustrated_joe : really if your pc specs are good enough, go for virtualbox, it's the easiest way to have both system work in parallel11:33
Animus74Ben64:  is there something else ?11:33
frustrated_joebecause deleting is NOT an option (system-files, backup,...)11:33
Ben64Animus74: you must have typed something wrong11:33
mathfreak_Ben64: Ah, that would make sense. Never mind.11:33
frustrated_joebe away for 10'11:34
Ben64frustrated_joe: it would help if you let us know what your partition structure was11:34
cfhowlettmaxmin, you have choices.  virtualbox inside windows with 32 bit ubuntu is the "safest" way so far as windows is concerned but performance will be limited.  dualboot is a bit more work but totally worth the effort11:34
mathfreak_I sure hope frustrated_joe backs up all his data before he does anything.11:34
Animus74Ben64: when i tupe only lspci, it displays alist of drivers11:35
Ben64Animus74: ok, pastebin that, and the other command i gave you11:35
LinPadawanhi all - currently studying for first half of Comptia Linux+ exams and I'm a little confused with explanation of x11 client - server relationship. Study materials are telling me that the client supplies the data from applications to the server, which provides display and interaction capabilities to clients. It also says that this often resides on separate networked machines. On a PC linux installation, are both client-server on th11:36
Ben64LinPadawan: you're not in the right channel for that11:37
LinPadawanAh sorry, which channel should I be in?11:37
Roryi can't use ctrl-c in bash (any terminal) on my user, but I can on other users. Ubuntu 13.10. nothing happens when I press ctrl-C in bash to (for example) cancel a half-written command. but if I am running a script and hit ctrl-c it prints ^C to the console11:37
RoryThere is nothing in ~/.bashrc11:37
Ben64LinPadawan: #linux maybe, i'm not sure. this is a Ubuntu support channel only11:37
LinPadawanBen64 is there a general ubuntu chat?11:38
LinPadawanwill have a look at #linux too11:38
maxmincfhowlett: how can i install Ubuntu 12.04 as Dual boot in winodws XP rom Ubuntu 12.04.iso image?11:38
Ben64LinPadawan: not sure why you need ubuntu to tell you about x, but there is #ubuntu-offtopic11:38
LinPadawandon't all linux systems use x window system in the background?11:38
LinPadawanbut yes, thanks will have a look :)11:39
Animus74Ben64: no . lshw -11:39
LinPadawanall GUI linux systems*11:39
ubottumaxmin,: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot11:39
Ben64Animus74: lshw -C VIDEO11:39
Animus74Ben64: yes thats the command thats not working11:40
Ben64Animus74: well you're typing it wrong11:41
Animus74Ben64: um can i have the whole code again plz?11:42
Ben64Animus74: lshw -C VIDEO11:42
Animus74so when i tupe that, it gives me alist of how lsjw can be used11:43
user___i feel like X could be running more smoothly/quickly. from this pastebin after installing my graphics driver does it seem like there are major errors i can easily fix http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA - kubuntu 13.1011:44
Ben64Animus74: then you're typing it wrong!11:44
JoupiAnimus74 : providing there is no error message with your lshw command, have you tried 'sudo lshw -html > system_info.html' and open in web browser ?11:44
beweesHi, I want to configure mod_wsgi for apache and I followed ubuntu instructions here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Apache#Python  But there is no /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  file for me in latter dir?11:44
LinPadawanhi all - currently studying for first half of Comptia Linux+ exams and I'm a little confused with explanation of x11 client - server relationship. Study materials are telling me that the client supplies the data from applications to the server, which provides display and interaction capabilities to clients. It also says that this often resides on separate networked machines. On a PC linux installation, are both client-server on th11:45
LinPadawanapologies if it's a stupid question, been studying all day and my mind isn't so fresh at this hour!11:45
LinPadawanwrong ir11:45
FloodBot1LinPadawan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:45
Animus74it says PCI (sysfs)11:50
StevenRmorning. Got a problem with one user's profile/account that I can't pin down. No videos play. Not youtube/vlc/mythtv. It works with a fresh user, but I can't see anything that would block it. Both users are in the video/audio groups11:53
kaksddkfhi all i installed paragon ntfs and it is twice fast as compared with NTFS-3G, i edited /etc/fstab to mount partitions at boot, but i don't mount to them at boot, i want to mount them as desired without any command, just like clicking the list of drives in nautilus left pane, partitions which are not mounted by fstab are visible in nautilus left pane, and they got mounted in /media/label, and drivers loaded for NTFS partitions are NTFS-3G , i want to load Para11:54
maxminubottu: I ahve gone through the link. I have Windows xp (in Partition C:)already installed, and have 3 more empty NTFS partitinons. I will burn ISO to CD and install ubuntu to one of these empty partitions. Do you suggest any other which i should consider while installing Ubunut u as dual boot?11:55
ubottumaxmin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:55
cfhowlettmaxmin, one partition for / (root) one for /swap and one for ...?11:56
kaksddkfwhat i want to acheive is to load  paragon NTFS drivers by default instead of NTFS-3G, i also unninstalled NTFS-3G but then kernel read only drivers got loaded instead of paragon-NTFS, anybody please help11:56
mathfreak_cfhowlett: Is there a reason to continue setting up a partition for /swap?11:56
kaksddkfread only situation is worse than R-W, :D11:56
cfhowlettmathfreak_, habit more than anything, I suppose ...11:57
cfhowlettmathfreak_, I can't see the harm in giving up 1 - 2% of my HDD to /swap11:57
sandman13i deleted my other partition of windows while installing ubuntu can i recover them11:57
kaksddkfcfhowlett: could you help me, as mentioned above11:57
mathfreak_cfhowlett: Well, the space isn't so much an issue, but why not use a swap file instead of a swap partition?11:58
maxmincfhowlett: does ubuntu prompts me of these partitions whil i installing it? and how much should be each partition?11:58
cfhowlettkaksddkf, whatever you're doing is over my head so .. sorry.  too much ignorance of that point to do you any good11:58
cfhowlettmaxmin, I can tell you mine ... 15 for the / (filesystem) 8 for the /swap and the remainder in  a dedicated /home.  Your mileage may varry11:59
maxminis it GB or MB?12:00
sandman13help me please12:00
cfhowlettmaxmin, GB12:00
Danatosandman13: did you format the windows partition?12:00
kaksddkfcfhowlett: i want to improve NTFS R/W perfromance and i installed paragon NTFS drivers, i am getting read/write  speed two times more than ntfs-3g, and i want to make them default drivers while mounting any NTFS partition, not only those partitions which are mentioned in /etc/fstab12:00
kaksddkffor eg. take a NTFS formatted pendrive12:01
sandman13Danato, i selected the option which deletes the windows12:01
cfhowlettkaksddkf, right.  I understood a single digit percentage of that.  this is NOT my area of expertise or knowledge.  better to ask someone/somewhere else12:01
kaksddkfcfhowlett: thanks12:02
Danatosandman13: then yeah, it formated everything, you will have to repartition your disk and reinstall windows on that partition12:02
Touhou11kaksddkf: I think pendrives still use FAT32 usually12:02
MonkeyDu1tkaksddkf  i guess you're pioneering with that kind of NTFS format, don't expect much support12:03
sandman13Danato: i'm planning to use ubuntu but i want my data back12:03
maxmincfhowlett: can i do partitions of 15GB for /root, 8 GB for /Swap and rest for .... before insatlling Ubuntu or Ubuntu ask me to do while installing?12:03
Touhou11sandman13: When it deleted the partition, did it take a long time (30+ minutes), or did it take a few seconds? If the latter, most of your files might still be accessible12:03
MonkeyDu1tkaksddkf  oh, paragon ntfs is for mac!12:04
cfhowlettmaxmin, you mean set up the partitions before starting install ?   sure12:04
kaksddkfMonkeyDu1t: i just want to load paragon-ntfs drivers instead of ntfs-3g by default  and paragon-ntfs also exist for Linux also12:04
sandman13Danato: don't know i left while it was installing12:04
MonkeyDu1tkaksddkf  did you ask for advice in the !mac channel?12:04
Roryi can't use ctrl-c in bash (any terminal) on my user, but I can on other users. Ubuntu 13.10. nothing happens when I press ctrl-C in bash to (for example) cancel a half-written command. but if I am running a script and hit ctrl-c it prints ^C to the console12:05
sandman13Danato: i ran testdisk it only shows 96gb marked as linux rest of the disk space is not shown12:05
kaksddkfMonkeyDu1t: No, this is the only channel i am aware of and this is a great channel to get help from community12:05
ikoniaRory: intr is set wrong for that user12:06
maxmincfhowlett: I mean: can i re-arrange partitins for these Ubuntu from Windows XP before installing Ubuntu?12:06
MonkeyDu1tkaksddkf  type /join macosx12:06
MonkeyDu1tkaksddkf  type /join #macosx12:06
ikoniaMonkeyDu1t: why ?12:06
Roryikonia: stty -a http://paste.ubuntu.com/6437124/12:06
ikoniaMonkeyDu1t: he's asking for help in linux, why are you pointing him at macosx12:07
Touhou11sandman13: Previously I used http://www.sysresccd.org to recover files on a corrupt filesystem, but it depends if you did a full format or not. If you did a full format your files are lost (afaik)12:07
ikoniaRory: intr = ^V12:07
Roryikonia: EOF (C-d) doesn't work either12:07
Danatosandman, theres an option to install ubuntu that says "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" which is ticked by default, and theres a "Warning: This will delete any files on the disk"12:07
MonkeyDu1tikonia  my line of thinking was: paragon is a mac thing, wouldnt harm to ask advice there12:07
kaksddkfMonkeyDu1t: will they help me regarding the same issue, because i am on linux and i am using linux drivers and i never used MAC12:07
cfhowlettmaxmin, you're using windows to rearrange your partitions?  (Oh AND using xp? :)  well, you could but, I always found the gparted tool in ubuntu to be easier to deal with12:07
ikoniaMonkeyDu1t: there is a linux version also, the mac version would work different12:08
sandman13Danato: yes i chose that12:08
Danatosandman13: try to run gparted and see what it shows you12:08
ikoniaRory: yes, because it's not set, look at the output you pasted12:08
MonkeyDu1twell, learned something new then12:08
sandman13it shows whole disk of 500gb with 11.2gb occupied12:09
Roryikonia: i don't really understand how stty works, I only came across it while investigating this. it says "eof = ^D" - I also can't use the scrollshweel on my mouse which might be related, might not. xorg.conf is empty12:10
ikoniaRory: have you changed anything with your current user ?12:10
ikoniaRory: as the tty settings don't get changed without effort, especially not on a perminent basis12:10
Roryikonia: no, I don't think so, I only installed this morning12:11
maxmincfhowlett: does ubuntu prompts me to do partions while installing Ubuntu?12:11
Roryikonia: it works if I switch terminal with ctrl-alt-f512:11
ikoniaRory: have you done anything like run scripts, install packages from external repos etc etc.12:11
Roryikonia: I have the nvidia graphics driver from xorg-edgers on this thinkpad W53012:11
ikoniaRory: looks like your current terminal is messed up if it works in other terminals12:11
cfhowlettmaxmin, yes.  the first option is to let ubuntu auto install everything.  don't.  there's also an install next to windows option.  Yes.  OR you can go all manual and set it up yourself.12:11
geirhaRory: echo "$BASH_VERSION, $TERM"12:12
frustrated_joehello, i'm back after having lunch... i will try again the reinstall... can i make a partition in my wubi 12.04, and use that partition then to install the 13.04 live dvd? is the partion made in wubi 12.04 a good partition?12:12
Roryikonia: Well it doesn't work in gnome-terminal, xterm or terminator so I'm wondering if it's an X or Unity thing12:12
cfhowlettmaxmin, also, if you boot ubuntu and launch "try ubuntu" you can go online to IRC for support.  then launch the installer.12:12
Rorygeirha: 4.2.45(1)-release, xterm12:12
ikoniaRory: again, those things don't get changed on their own12:12
ikoniaRory: you can test this just doing "stty intr ^C"12:13
ikoniathen interupt should work with ctrl+c12:13
Roryikonia: Not straight after doing that, do i have to run "reset"?12:13
ikonia(note you have to do stty intr ctrl+v ctrl+c" to get ^C char - don't do shift +6 C)12:13
maxmincfhowlett: thank you. i will do like that.12:14
ActionParsnipfrustrated_joe: wubi is godawful. What version of Windows are you using?12:14
cfhowlettmaxmin, you could also install only ubuntu and put XP inside ubuntu via virtualbox12:14
Roryikonia: Yes I'm aware of that, wasn't just typing "^C"12:14
ikoniaRory: ok, so that should enable "interupt" being bound to ctrl+c12:14
ActionParsnipmaxmin: XP is EOL on 1st APril 2014, just so you know12:14
frustrated_joewin 712:15
cfhowlettActionParsnip, "come to end, it's time has and not soon enough!" to quote Yoda.12:15
frustrated_joeand yes, i am told off many times in here about the wubi-quality, that's why i am looking to reinstall12:16
Joupifrustrated_joe : I currently have xubuntu 12.04 with virtualbox and windows 7 running inside, it runs fine but I have 4 cores and 6Go RAM12:16
Roryikonia: After running that, "stty -a" shows "intr = ^C" but cannot use ctrl-c12:16
ActionParsnipcfhowlett: not a bad Windows version, does what it says on the tin12:16
ikoniaRory: what happens when you press "ctrl +c"12:17
Roryikonia: Absolutely nothing12:17
ikoniaRory: does it not display anything on screen ?12:17
ActionParsnipfrustrated_joe: if you resize your NTFS (Win7 can resize its own NTFS partitions), you can then install to the freed space. Or if you are installing from scratch, leave unpartitioned space and install to that and bypass the resizing phase altogether12:18
Roryikonia: as in, type some text in a terminal without pressing Return, pres ctrl+c and nothing happens12:18
Roryikonia: Nothing prints to the screen12:18
lotuspsychjeim looking for an alternative package for laptop anti-theft like 'prey', any sugestions?12:18
lotuspsychje!info prey12:18
ubottuprey (source: prey): utility for tracking stolen computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-7.1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 527 kB, installed size 1101 kB12:18
ikoniaRory: can I have a look at the output of stty now please.12:19
Roryikonia: http://pastebin.com/FpEfRWge12:20
ikoniaRory: does ctrl+m work if you press it for EOL12:21
Roryikonia: Yes12:21
RoryI'm sure there's something in the x server which is intercepting the ctrl-c12:21
ikoniaRory: why do you think that ?12:22
Roryikonia: Just because it works when I switch to TTY 512:22
ikoniaRory: you could get a better idea doing "stty intr ^S" and testing ctrl+s as interupt12:22
ActionParsnipRory: which desktop and/or shell do you use?12:22
geirhaRory: Someone had a similar case with Konsole in #bash last month.  If he started Konsole from KDE, ctrl+C didn't work. If he started Konsole via Alt+F2 run-dialog, it worked.12:22
ActionParsnipRory: and which release?12:22
ikoniaRory: and that isn't default behaviour, hence why I'm querying what you did12:23
geirhaRory: We didn't figure out what caused it though12:23
Roryikonia: Setting it to ctrl-s doesn't work, as in, I can't use ctrl-s as intr12:23
ikoniaRory: try a few other keys, that may give a clue if it's not taking interupt, or not taking the keys12:23
ikoniaRory: get someone with a standad ubuntu install to verify the behaviour and stty output12:24
ikoniaRory: yours does not look standard at all12:24
RoryI'm using Cinnamon currently but it also happens in Unity. I'll try some things. I'll also try removing the nvidia driver and seeing if using the open source one works12:24
ikoniaRory: I think you're rushing ahead at random things12:24
ActionParsnipRory: which desktop and/or shell do you use? and which release?12:24
ikoniaRory: try to break it down more12:24
ActionParsnipRory: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue12:25
ActionParsnipRory: no need to pastebin, its a single line so can paste in the channel12:27
geirhaActionParsnip: why /etc/issue rather than lsb_release?12:32
ActionParsnipgeirha: its a single line and works on any standard GNU Linux distro12:33
geirhaActionParsnip: Except the sysadmin may decide to change it12:33
ph8_hi all, i've got a usb stick that was encrypted with truecrypt but has been yanked before unmounting from a windows machine and is now 'unmountable'. I'm on a new ubuntu system and it's just /dev/sdb - i can't dd it because it says it's read only, i've checked hdparm and turned read only off but i'm still getting the same problem - any idea where i might be able to start to overwrite this bugger?12:36
ikoniaph8_: read only would not be a problem for dd as dd is "READING" the read only disk.12:36
geirhaph8_: are you running dd with sudo?12:39
[Ethos]Good Day!12:40
geirhaph8_: Anyway, if you put it back into a windows machine, you can have it fix the filesystem.12:40
cfhowlett[Ethos], greetings12:40
rkokkelkHi guys, does anyone know if the one hunder papercuts project is still goingon??12:40
ubottuA papercut is a trivially fixable usability bug in a central Ubuntu component. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut for more info12:40
[Ethos]say what language do they use to develop GUI For Ubuntu?12:41
DJonesrkokkelk: No, I think it was closed down12:41
rkokkelkThought so, cause the wikipage is not existing anymore.12:42
rkokkelkOke thanks!12:42
[Ethos]downloading 13.10 now12:42
cfhowlettrkokkelk, I think the current iteration of user input is ubuntu voices12:42
DJonesrkokkelk: Maybe not, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts12:43
Hanumaanunable to store the history in bash .bash_history .. I have kept the options  HISTFILESIZE=400000000  HISTSIZE=100000 but still it is not saving all my history disappears after restart of computer ..12:44
rkokkelkcfhowlett: thanks I will look into it12:44
heavyammoIs there an open source alternative to Skype to keep in touch with my skype contacts instead of installing skype?12:44
rkokkelkDJones: ah yeah it's the URL, it was wrong, but thanks I will look for the rest on the wiki!12:44
[Ethos]Is Windows considered Linux?12:44
user___from this http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA what dependencies does it appear are missing12:44
k1l[Ethos]: no.12:45
cfhowlett[Ethos], no12:45
heavyammo[Ethos], no12:45
ubottuheavyammo,: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga12:45
geirhaHanumaan: All history? so .bash_history is always empty?12:45
ubottuekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga12:45
ubottuVoIP is Voice over IP. The default VoIP client for Ubuntu is !Ekiga. There is also an xmpp voice component in !Empathy. Kubuntu Clients include Kphone and Twinkle. Proprietary Clients include !Skype and Gizmo5. VoIP server applications include Asterisk and Yate ( both in repositories ), FreePBX, and SipX.12:45
heavyammocfhowlett, so if I install Ekiga could I connect it to my Skype account?12:46
geirhaHanumaan: Or does it end up at max 500 lines?12:46
Hanumaangeirha, it ends up max 500 lines12:48
[Ethos]say anyone got that clock thing to work on beginning screen of 13.1012:48
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[Ethos]the ones they use for Ubuntu Phones12:48
geirhaHanumaan: Then you've probably just set HIST*SIZE in the wrong file. You have to set them in ~/.bashrc12:48
geirhaHanumaan: And don't export them12:49
cfhowlettheavyammo, nope.  ekiga and skype do not talk so far as I know.  note: the new google + hangouts has some kind of voip capability12:49
cfhowlettheavyammo, skype is proprietary and is now owned by microsoft.12:50
heavyammocfhowlett, I am just trying to chat with my Skype contacts, not Voip. I know that there are web applications such as plus.im that could do that, which makes me think there should be a open source software on Ubuntu capable of that too12:50
[Ethos]Where is MS headed trying own everything12:50
cfhowlettheavyammo, that I know of ... no.12:51
maxklim/whois maxklim12:51
cfhowlettmaxklim, greetings12:51
Touhou11[Ethos]: Making money? If others could use the same protocol they wouldn't have a monopoly on Skype calls12:51
[Ethos]they bought Nokia as well, just few months ago.12:51
Touhou11heavyammo: Be aware that after Microsoft bought Skype they altered the way the system works to allow recording of all calls. Previously Skype was a decentralised network12:51
heavyammocfhowlett, alrite thanks =)12:52
cfhowlettheavyammo, best of luck12:52
[Ethos]say if you were to be stuck in an island, would you save your friend or your wife?12:52
[Ethos]only one person you can save.12:52
heavyammoTouhou11, I don't want to install Skype on my Ubuntu system for similar reasons...12:52
k1l!ot | [Ethos]12:52
ubottu[Ethos]: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:52
ubottu[Ethos],: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:52
[Ethos]just lightning up12:52
Touhou11[Ethos]: Why can you only save one, are you going to eat the other person?12:52
k1lTouhou11: please drop that topic into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel to keep this channel clear for support. thanks12:53
heavyammowell, Touhou11, I really hope that Ubuntu  /will really12:53
[Ethos]Touhou11: suppose they are drowning12:54
heavyammo Canonical will really make an effort to create a real alternative to the current state of voip etc.12:54
heavyammowe need that12:54
Touhou11heavyammo: There's nothing wrong with the current alternatives to Skype, but it's vastly more convenient to stay on the same as everyone else so no-one switches12:55
heavyammoI mean in terms marketing them, porting them to Windows, etc12:55
maxklimTouhou11: the same situation is with xmpp vs icq and so on...12:55
maxklimheavyammo: the problem is that every ubuntu user knows about windows, but not every windows user knows about canonical and its initiatives.12:57
user___from this http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA what dependencies does it appear are missing12:57
gordonjcpmaxklim: for suitable values of "knows about"12:58
gordonjcpI keep meaning to try windows12:58
gordonjcpI heard it's got network support built in, in the newer versions12:59
maxklimgordonjcp: you haven't ever try windows or it's a way of sarcasm?13:00
maxklim* tried13:00
user___can someone recommend a quick photo touchup tool for ubuntu/kubuntu  like the one that comes with ms office13:00
cfhowlettuser___, shotwell13:01
cfhowlettVERY quick/easy/limited menu13:01
gordonjcpmaxklim: I have Windows 3.11 on floppies13:02
gordonjcpmaxklim: that was the last version of Windows I used13:02
maxklimgordonjcp: you are lucky ;-)13:02
hubahoppi've got wifi authentication problems after upgrading to saucy. I can't seem to find a relevant bug, anyone had anything similar?13:06
user___cfhowlett: thanks13:06
cfhowlettuser___, hope that gives you what you want.13:06
philinuxuser___: or gthumb and pinta13:07
geirhagordonjcp: me too, and also an old game for windows 3.11 that I still enjoy. So I have win 3.11 installed in a dosbox along with that game. Great fun.13:08
user___philinux: thanks also13:11
philinuxuser___: try them all. shotwell annoys me with it's import thing. all my pics are already "organised by me" As with all things you may like that feature13:13
user___philinux: plan to... just really simply looking for the tool like ms office picture manager has, the 'one click fix' for photos13:14
zughdsdsaHi, is there anybody who can explain me, what the kernel parameter timer_migration does? Thanks in advance13:16
Roryikonia: Reverting to the open-source nvidia driver (uninstalling nvidia-319) fixes my ^C thing13:16
geirhaRory: oh, that's interesting13:17
queretaroIn the MOTD message I can see how many security updates are available. Can I know in some way which are the packages that have to be updates? I'm looking for something similar to /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs13:19
user___from this http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA what dependencies does it appear are missing13:21
guest-NZfFvSubottu! Im name is Patrick!13:22
cfhowlettguest-NZfFvS, ubottu don't care what your name is.  Nothing personal.  What is your Ubuntu question.13:23
philinuxuser___: you can set the default app in system settings > details13:24
bundurui gave up on my DWA-547 since it was not working ok and installed a DWL-G510 (ralink chip) but it doesn't appear to be working :s13:28
bunduruand i can't figure out how to13:28
railsraideris there a way to override the bashrc for all users without deleting the bashrc for each user? im overwriting the /etc/bash.bashrc13:28
user___philinux: k13:29
bundurui read it should work out of the box :s13:30
heavyammoIn the Power information window, Ubuntu displays I have a 4000mah battery and my battery is 7800mah, should I be trying to change that as for example it changes my battery icon in the tray to RED when it goes lower than 30% and it's just pointless and confusing13:35
heavyammoany other possible benefits?13:35
heavyammoof changing it13:35
cfhowlettheavyammo, power settings > battery management13:35
heavyammocfhowlett, I am on Xubuntu and I don't see anything similar to battery management13:36
djdieI looking for a traduction software for ubuntu/linux when I select text and I do right click, I can choose traduction wich open a soft or a browser web windows (or whatever) with the traduction of the selection13:36
cfhowlettheavyammo, I'm also on xubuntu.  You're right.  Look in the software center - there should be something you can install.13:37
Picidjdie: Uh.. Perhaps #ubuntu-fr would be better for you, I'm don't really understand what you're asking ('traduction' doesn't mean anything in english)13:38
* cfhowlett thought it was only him.13:38
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bunduruwifi isn't appearing in the network manager, i just installed another wireless card but doesn't seem to be working13:41
bunduruany tips?13:41
cfhowlettDacs, greetings13:42
bunduruwhen i do sudo lshw -C network it seems to be there "UNCLAIMED"13:42
ab0030who's it going ?13:42
TIBS02anyone tell me if the ubuntu is mini install does it install from the net13:43
DJonesTIBS02: Mostly from the net13:43
DJones!minimal | TIBS0213:43
ubottuTIBS02: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:43
LjLTIBS02: the Mini ISO installs (mostly) from the network, yes13:43
Dacsif i have two boxes one is running M$ and the other is running ubuntu. Ubuntu box is head less, and in the same network as M$. how can i export ubuntu destop to windows machine please13:43
TIBS02wicked thankies13:43
TIBS02ill install that now13:43
cfhowlettDacs, export?  you mean to install it?13:44
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate13:44
djdiePici: hahah very sorry about that traduction = translation in french13:44
djdieI looking for a translation software for ubuntu/linux when I select text and I do right click, I can choose translation wich open a soft or a browser web windows (or whatever) with the translation of the selection13:45
heavyammodjdie, I don;t really thing that such piece of software exists, I barely get what you are trying to say though13:46
heavyammolike, in what programs do you want to have that13:47
cfhowlettdjdie, google translate13:47
bunduruubuntu isn't playing nice with my wireless cards13:47
maxklimdjdie: try goldendict13:48
djdiecfhowlett: yes i have it, but i looking for the same but in the Operation Systme level13:48
djdiemaxklim: ok i'll try it13:48
cfhowlettdjdie, Sorry, can't help much.  You CAN install additional language support13:48
maxklimdjdie: you are welcome!13:48
cfhowlettperhaps run 2 logins: one in language 1, one in language 2??13:49
heavyammodjdie, yeah why don;t you get ubuntu in french...13:49
auronandacedjdie: it depends on the application you are using13:49
zughdsdsaHi, is there anybody who can explain me, what the kernel parameter timer_migration does? Thanks in advance13:50
JoseGabrielHello Everyone. I'm having problems installing a network printer. After I chose it, it looks for a driver, then neither gutenprint nor local driver do anything. After I click Forwards it just stays there.13:50
Dacscfhowlett: i want to pull ubuntu destop13:50
cfhowletttiago_, greetings13:50
JoseGabrielAny ideas?13:50
JoseGabrielPerhaps command line alternative to do it?13:50
tiago_do you know in which channel I can ask for help in a simple bash script?13:50
Dacscfhowlett: graphical interface13:50
Picitiago_: #bash13:51
cfhowlettDacs, you want to install unity in windows?  ???13:51
djdieauronandace: when i select a piece of text (whatever software), when i rick-click on, i can choose translation en->fr in the menu13:51
tiago_how do I change channel? p13:52
tiago_how do I change channel? :p13:52
tiago_I haven't used IRC for years now13:52
DJonestiago_: /join channelname13:52
maxklimtiago_: use "/join #bash"13:52
tiago_it worked!13:53
auronandacedjdie: yes, i think that feature would depend on the application (rather than the os)13:54
dhanuhello is any body there13:55
maxklimdhanu: yep13:55
bundurulol ...yay for ndiswrapper13:56
zughdsdsamhh, is there nobody which can explain me the parameter timer_migration?  Where can I get information about this parameter?  I'm using Duckduckgo and google for more than an hour now :(14:01
DJoneszughdsdsa: It might be worth asking in ##linux somebody there may have an idea, its probably pretty rare most people here will have come across it if they're not compiling kernels (which is what I assume you're doing)14:03
BluesKajHowdy folks14:03
maxklimBluesKaj: hey!14:04
BluesKajHi maxklim14:04
DJoneszughdsdsa: Maybe this helps though http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0809.2/0041.html14:04
dhanuwhere to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?14:05
dhanumany doubts14:05
JoseGabrielCan anybody help me install a network printer. Seems like the gui installer is failing.14:05
zughdsdsaThanks. Honestly I'm having an performance issue. One of our systems is causing a high load after some time. After some investigation with top and diagrams from nagios we saw, that the migration-processes are causing the problem. We got this problem after updating to 12.4.3 from 10.414:05
JoseGabrielAfter selecting use local driver and clicking Forward it doesn't do anything.14:06
dhanu where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?14:06
dhanu where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?14:06
dhanu where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?14:06
DJones!repeat | dhanu14:06
ubottudhanu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:06
JoseGabrielIsntead of asking me where the ppd file is.14:06
ubottudhanu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:07
dhanu where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?14:07
Hanumaangeirha, I have just kept HISTSIZE=10000  HISTFILESIZE=200000000 these 2 line in start of the ~/.bashrc and restarted but still only 500 are remembered ..14:08
geirhaHanumaan: Make sure they're not changed further down in the file14:09
JoseGabrielMaybe a command line solution to my issue?14:09
geirhaHanumaan: and make sure that e.g. echo "$HISTSIZE"  outputs the correct number14:10
Dacsis there a way i can access my ubuntu desktop from windows14:10
maxklimDacs: VNC14:10
maxklimDacs: x11vnc14:10
sabgentonis there a way to tell apt-get update to ingnore gpg keys completely?14:12
sabgentonI tried --allow-unauthenticated  but it still didn't work14:14
Dacsmaxklim: is it possible to do it with Cygwin14:15
fcuk112in terminator i click preferences and the app crashes, anyone experience this issue?14:17
maxklimDacs: you can use native VNC clients and servers for both windows and linux14:17
JoseGabrielI do get the following output from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6437659/14:18
guest-NZfFvSYou need to join pass key (localhost).14:19
Touhou11Dacs: If you want to run specific graphical Linux applications on Windows, you get better performance using XMing (a Windows X Server)14:19
guest-NZfFvSSoon for chat!14:19
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Gorrothi'm always waaaaaaay too unhappy with that14:28
Gorrothi like firing up a VM instead14:28
junkaif F32 faster than ext4?14:29
Touhou11junka: No. Also EXT4 has significantly more features as a filesystem than FAT32. You should only use FAT32 where you need cross-OS compatibility, as it's supported by almost everything14:30
user234Hi, does anyone know if there is a way to get ifconfig or iwconfig in crouton for chromebooks??14:31
junkaTouhou11, thanks. Is there a better filesystem than EXT4?14:32
Touhou11junka: EXT4 is a good general purpose filesystem. There are other specialized filesystems which are better in specific scenarios, but unless you're running a large server farm I wouldn't worry about it14:32
dracan_lin@junka, if you're a home user, stick to ext414:33
lotuspsychjeim looking for an alternative anti-theft package like 'prey', any sugestions?14:33
lotuspsychje!info prey14:33
dracan_linunless you have older hardware... if so, get yourself ext214:33
ubottuprey (source: prey): utility for tracking stolen computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-7.1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 527 kB, installed size 1101 kB14:33
TotorusHello all,14:33
dracan_linhi Totorus!14:33
Totorus I wanted to create my samba4 package to use version 4.0.3 on Ubuntu precise. I changed debian / rules:  ""--bundled-libraries=NONE,pytevent,iniparser,tdb,tevent,ldb,pyldb-util"" and when I run dpkg-buildpackage I in this error: dh_install --sourcedir=/var/lib/debuild/jgoffaux/samba4-4.0.3+dfsg1/debian/tmp --list-missing --fail-missing14:34
Totorusdh_install: usr/share/man/man8/tdbbackup.8 exists in /var/lib/debuild/xxxxxxx/samba4-4.0.3+dfsg1/debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere14:34
TotorusDo you have any idea14:34
Totorusdracan_lin, hi14:34
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maxklimTotorus: hey!14:35
Touhou11Totorus: Have you looked for a PPA of Samba4 instead?14:35
dracan_linhi Totorus... no idea on your question! keep asking and posting on forums14:35
TotorusTouhou11, PPA ?14:36
Totorusdracan_lin, ;)14:37
Touhou11Totorus: Personal Package Archive, software which has been already compiled to run on Ubuntu by someone else. It lets you install newer versions of specific software you want14:37
Touhou11Totorus: Usually easier than compiling yourself14:37
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TotorusTouhou11, Thls, I look site web14:39
MonkeyDu1tTotorus  but: a ppa is not screened or controlled, so it may make your system unstable14:39
Touhou11Yes, I should have pointed that out.14:40
makaraexperience with VPNs anyone?14:44
user__libreoffice --calc %U -------- X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) <--- any quick fixes for this?14:45
ActionParsnipmakara: client ofr server?14:45
ActionParsnipuser__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc14:45
ActionParsnipmakara: ofr = or14:46
makaraActionParsnip, i simply want to setup an OpenVPN between my pc and a server. I'm following http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9916?page=0,214:46
user__ActionParsnip, saucy14:46
makaraActionParsnip, but I want to use public/private keys14:46
ActionParsnipmakara: what are you using the VPN to achieve?14:46
sabgentonwhat is ubuntus equivalent to  debian-keyring?14:47
ActionParsnipuser__: tried renaming the libreoffice configuration folder then relaunch the application14:47
ActionParsnipsabgenton: gnome-keyring14:47
makaraActionParsnip, all sorts of things14:48
ActionParsnipmakara: for web access etc you can use Squid through an SSH tunnel14:49
ActionParsnipmakara: not used vpn in Ubuntu myself.14:49
SuperLagAMD Xconfig resets on every reboot. :(14:49
makaraActionParsnip, I want to use a VPN, if only for my education14:50
user__ActionParsnip, any hints as to the folder location14:50
makaraActionParsnip, I was not convinced with Squid. It's config file is enormous.14:50
ActionParsnipuser__: in ~/.config maybe, or just in ~14:50
azerusDoes anyone know if using winbind to bind to my ActiveDirectory will register multiple hostnames to the DC's DNS?14:50
SuperLagI'm using the fglrx drivers, and I've asked in #ati... but all I get is <crickets>.14:50
makaraActionParsnip, so I'm looking into Nginx for reverse proxying my website. But even that isn't going so smoothly14:50
ActionParsnipuser__: no bad thing, are there not videos on YouTube etc on this?14:51
ActionParsnipmakara: I use squid+ssh, the only line I changed was allow from all hosts :)14:51
user__ActionParsnip, on what, the original error i posted or libreoffice dir14:51
ActionParsnipuser__: the libreoffice directory in ~/.config , rename it then launch the application. Is it better?14:52
user__ActionParsnip, no libreoffice under ~/.config14:52
sabgentonActionParsnip: is there a way to bypass public key unavailability   (I'm experimenting in vm with different repos) ?14:52
user__or lib-anything14:53
makaraActionParsnip, :) well I need to know squid too. in time....14:53
ActionParsnipuser__: is there a hidden folder in $HOME then?14:55
ActionParsnipsabgenton: just import the GPG key (I assume you mean for a PPA)14:55
junkaTouhou11, what about JFS? I read it has low CPU usage14:56
sabgentonActionParsnip:  no I'm messing with debian unstable  gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys bla seems to be working14:58
ActionParsnipjunka: interesting stuff14:58
ActionParsnipsabgenton: debian isnt supported here14:58
sabgentonActionParsnip: but is there any way you can just  turn of  the checking?14:58
ActionParsnipsabgenton: ask in #debian14:58
Touhou11junka: I used JFS for a while. You're talking about tiny amounts of performance though, rarely going to notice any difference tbh14:59
ActionParsnipjunka: Touhou11: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1204_fs&num=314:59
molgrumaptitude says i have jockey-gtk installed, terminal says it is not found, what do i do?14:59
user__ActionParsnip, not that i see, this is libreoffice preinstalled in saucy14:59
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sabgentonActionParsnip: but i'm asking about apt-get's update mechanism ...  regardless of what your updating14:59
ActionParsnipsabgenton: you are usig Debian, Debian is not supported here15:00
sabgentonthe distro is ubuntu15:00
ActionParsnipsabgenton: 'debian unstable' is not 'ubuntu'15:00
MonkeyDu1tsabgenton  what's the ouput of     cat /etc/issue15:01
jhutchins_wksabgenton: This is exactly the kind of issue that is different between distros.15:01
sabgentonno but what if I want to make my own ppa, ppas come from debian unstable a lot of the time15:01
jpdssabgenton: You can't turn off the checking, but you can ignore it15:01
ActionParsnipsabgenton: no, PPAs are made by people compileing their own code and making deb files15:01
sabgentonjpds: how do you ignore it?15:02
jpdssabgenton: No, PPAs are only for Ubuntu.15:02
sabgentonjpds: but some are made from debian unstable15:02
jpdssabgenton: sudo apt-get install -y --force-yes <package>15:02
ActionParsnipsabgenton: that's their porogative, PPAs are also not supported here15:02
ActionParsnip!ppa | sabgenton15:02
ubottusabgenton: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge15:02
SuperLagOkay. I have a new AMD video card for which I'm using the fglrx drivers. The settings get reset to defaults every singe #$$#@#$#$@#$ time I reboot. I'm signed in. I've got the config set up how I want it. How can I have root copy that xorg.conf file into place, so the *proper* configuration is there before X loads, and I get the *proper* settings every time?15:02
sabgentonjpds: what about apt-get update if it fails on public keys15:03
molgrumreinstalling jockey-gtk did not help :(15:03
ActionParsnipSuperLag: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478310 has some useful commands15:03
genii!xorgconf | SuperLag15:04
ubottuSuperLag: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.15:04
ActionParsnipsabgenton: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:04
sabgentonUbuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l15:05
sabgentonim not on debian15:05
sabgentonall though I have debian allso15:05
ActionParsnipsabgenton: then why say it is 'debian unstable' earlier, then say it's ubuntu15:05
ActionParsnipsabgenton: it makes no sense at all15:06
ActionParsnipsabgenton: then keep things tht are relatedly', yeah?15:06
ActionParsnipsabgenton: if you can give the full output ofL   sudo apt-get update      I can advise15:06
junkacan i disable journaling on ext4?15:07
ActionParsnipjunka: you can convert it to Ext2, yes15:07
SuperLagActionParsnip: that generates a new config. I already have a working config. The problem is that it gets reset every reboot.15:07
SuperLagActionParsnip: I want the working settings to *stick*.15:07
ActionParsnipSuperLag: is the file mounted read only? The one that /etc/X11 is on15:07
queretaroAccording to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates there are several ways to enable automatic security updates... Which one is the one Ubuntu uses by default?15:08
ubottumaria33: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:08
dracan_linjunka, ext4 is a journaling filesystem! no point changing anything, unless you're low on resources (CPU,HDD)15:08
ActionParsnipsabgenton: use http://pastie.org to host the text15:08
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SuperLagActionParsnip: no sir. 644 root:root15:08
ActionParsnipSuperLag: but if you run:  mount     is the file system readonly15:09
SuperLagActionParsnip: and / is mounted rw15:09
junkadracan_lin, i'm on a netbook with o low cpu. Should I switch to ext2?15:09
ActionParsnipSuperLag: the ACL doesnt show readonly-ness15:09
dracan_lin@junka, I'm on a Laptop AMD athlon 1200! I'm not sure you'll see a performance boost with ext215:10
dracan_lin@junka didn't mention I have ext4 puppy linux15:10
ActionParsnipsabgenton: once we have the output, we can advise15:11
junkaI see. Maybe I should leave it as it is15:11
dracan_lin@junka, brobably yes! browse the web to see advantages and disadvantages15:12
SuperLagActionParsnip: not that I can see, no15:13
sabgentonActionParsnip: http://sprunge.us/WhOj15:13
dracan_lin@junka, if you want to see performance, get a cheap 35$ ssd and install only necessary files and the os!15:13
ActionParsnipsabgenton: mixing debian and ubuntu repos will cause you a LOT of issues15:13
sabgentonI'm just asking does apt-get have a 'ingore keys'  option15:14
ActionParsnipsabgenton: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 8B48AD624692555315:14
jostIs there a way to get the network manager deliver verbose log entries? Using it via CLI would be ok15:14
ActionParsnipsabgenton: just import it15:14
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jhutchins_wksabgenton: Options like that would depend on whether it was apt-get from Debian or apt-get from Ubuntu.15:14
ActionParsnipsabgenton: you will get a big mess and nobody will support you15:14
sabgentonI would still be interested as to how apt works  like is there a ingore15:15
jostI'm trying to connect to a VPN, but the connection fails... the log entries don'T help15:15
ActionParsnipsabgenton: they can be ignored, the GUI package installers will just warn you, they are not essential15:15
sabgentonjhutchins_wk: it's ubuntu, ubuntu apt-get15:15
babilensabgenton: You are probably aware that mixing distributions like that is, well, slightly suboptimal, aren't you?15:16
ActionParsnipsabgenton: btw, your 'ubuntu' distro is not supported here as you are adding Debian sources to your OS15:16
ActionParsnipsabgenton: personally I think its a debian box with Ubuntu repos added, which I doubt the debian guys will touch15:16
sabgentonso  that was just a warning15:16
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ActionParsnipsabgenton: yes the GPG key thing is a warning15:16
sabgentonas in it does nothing?15:16
ActionParsnipsabgenton: yes, its just a nice to have15:16
sabgentonso I don't actually need to get rid of the warning15:17
ActionParsnipsabgenton: no15:17
sabgentonI see15:17
sabgentonthanks that was really all I wanted to understand15:17
sabgentonI've had it with purly ubuntu stuff before15:18
sabgentonbut not recently15:18
SuperLagActionParsnip: you know what *amazes* me? Uninstalling the fglrx *crap* and simply using the radeon driver, as well as the Display options in System Settings... JUST WORKS. I would have figured that the stuff straight from AMD would have worked *better*.15:18
ActionParsnipSuperLag: not always the case15:18
SuperLagActionParsnip: a little frustrated... can you tell? :)15:19
ActionParsnipSuperLag: there is a legacy PPA for 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx ATI GPUs which helps in Precise15:19
SuperLagActionParsnip: which part isn't always the case? that the closed-source workes better?15:19
ActionParsnipSuperLag: sometimes the opensource can run better15:19
pl_hallo  pi need help , how do download yahoo  messenger in ubuntu15:19
ActionParsnippl_: pidgin can chat on Yahoo15:20
pl_ thnks let me try it now15:21
farhangHi every one15:23
sabgentonActionParsnip: thanks for the one liner handy to have15:23
farhangHow can I enable the sound of xubuntu 13.10 ???15:23
ActionParsnipsabgenton: I have it in a script, just replace the hex code with $1 and you can use it to import lots of keys :)15:24
farhangHow can I enable the sound of xubuntu 13.10 ???15:24
ActionParsnipfarhang: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload15:25
A_I_is http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop a live CD ? can I run Ubuntu without actually installing it on the machine ?15:26
ActionParsnipA_I_: yes, it will run in RA<15:26
dracan_lin@farhang: you're probably on pulseaudio! does your soundcard even work?15:26
dracan_lin@ Α_Ι yes, you can boot with it and take it for a spin ;-)15:26
A_I_ok, I have some datas to retreive on an installed server which I've forgot the password... :-/15:26
ActionParsnipA_I_: why is there not a backup of the data?15:27
A_I_ActionParsnip  because ... :-)15:27
ActionParsnipA_I_: what is the drive IDE, or motor fails, where is your data?15:27
farhangActionParsnip, should i write all those together ??15:27
dracan_lin@A_I get something lighter like lubuntu15:28
ubottufjygj`gjhgj: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:28
farhangdracan_lin, yup,15:28
ActionParsnipA_I_: think about it, 1Tb HDD costs peanuts now and will give a solid backup media15:28
farhangdracan_lin, i just reinstalled my ubuntu,15:28
ActionParsnipfarhang: copy and paste it to the terminal as one big command, don't try and retype it15:28
ActionParsnipfarhang: I assume you ran full updates15:28
LucidGuyAnyone want to recommend where to purchase a SSL cert?  rapidSSL any good?15:28
LucidGuyCheap and fast is a priority15:28
ikoniaLucidGuy: not really the function of this channel15:28
A_I_dracan_lin lubuntu also live CD ?15:28
ActionParsnipLucidGuy: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic15:29
impulzewhen installing libcurl4-gnutls-dev:i386 it wants to remove libcurl4-gnutls-dev, why is that?15:29
ActionParsnipA_I_: yes Lubuntu is also a liveCD15:29
ikoniaA_I_: any livecd will work just fine, I'm not sure why you are being directed to lubuntu15:29
farhangActionParsnip, I already updated it. thanks man. now I should restart ? or anything else to do ?15:29
A_I_ikonia what live CD would you advice me ?15:30
ActionParsnipfarhang: run the command and a URL will be generated, post that URL in here15:30
ikoniaA_I_: anyone you want, it really doesn't matter,15:30
farhangActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b6d3853dbfdf05080e0b31e415684b6a0dcdc54f15:30
farhangActionParsnip, and then ??15:31
ActionParsnipfarhang: gimme a sec....jeez15:31
A_I_what's the smallest ISO live cd ?15:31
ActionParsnipfarhang: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null15:32
ActionParsnipfarhang: reboot to test15:32
ZIPYA_I_: puppylinux is very small15:32
kaksddkfMy question is from any linux geek here,  i am a noob in linux but discovered a way to make a fast performing system, by default in nautilus left pane, while mounting NTFS partitions ntfs-3g drivers loads , i installed paragon NTFS drivers for better performance and they are providing better performance, what do i want to make paragon drivers default  drivers while mounting any ntfs partition, instead of ntfs-3g. How to do that?  anybody please help or guide wh15:32
beanDSL is probably smaller.15:32
ActionParsnipA_I_: tinycore or xpud15:32
ActionParsniptinyis 12Mb :)15:32
A_I_thanks a lot guys !15:33
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Touhou11LucidGuy: I purchased from http://www.instantssl.com before, they were the cheapest after researching. Not the slickest customer service, but the certificate is fine15:33
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kaksddkfi also uninstalled ntfs-3g but then kernel read only driver came into effect15:33
ActionParsnipTouhou11: SSL purchasing is offtopic here15:33
dracan_lin@Α_Ι, I agree, any ligtweight live distro would do!15:34
ikoniakaksddkf: the mount option -t dictates the kenrel moudule used, within nautlius that is different, you'd have to research where it takes those options, I suspect it comes from dbus15:34
kaksddkfikonia: it comes from udisk i think15:34
ikoniakaksddkf: what is udisk ?15:35
LucidGuyTouhou11, thanks15:36
kiwi_hi ... i cant set the 'roll up' (toggle shade) on titlebar double click .. even though i made respective settings using gnome-tweak-tool and ubuntu-tweak ... is it a compiz issue ... any idea?  ubuntu 12.04-6415:39
jczwhat is the compression of vmlinuz kernel found in /boot/ ?15:40
ActionParsnipkiwi_: ask in #compiz too15:40
ActionParsnipjcz: use file command on the files, it may tell you15:40
ubuntuuserhello guys15:40
kiwi_the window maximes on double click, though it shouldnt15:40
jczActionParsnip: it just says that its data15:41
ActionParsnipjcz: bum15:41
ubuntuuserI'm using an Ubuntu-based distro now. One question. How do I install gambas2 on my PC?15:41
jczActionParsnip: ?15:41
ActionParsnipubuntuuser: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:42
ActionParsnipjcz: just an exclamation of exasperation15:42
ikoniaubuntuuser: exactly what distribution are you using15:42
kaksddkfActionParsnip:  i think you are a great linux PRO.15:42
ubuntuuserZorin OS 7 @ikonia15:43
ActionParsnipubuntuuser: not supported here15:43
ActionParsnipubuntuuser: ask in #zorinos15:43
ikoniaubuntuuser: ok, so #zorin is the correct support channel15:43
ikoniaah #zorinos sorry15:43
ActionParsnipkaksddkf: been around the block a few times, thee are better than me by a LOT15:43
ubuntuusersure then. I thought I might get some support since Zorin is UBuntu-based but thanks anyways15:43
ollie-ubuntuuser you can try the ubuntu software centre15:43
ikoniaubuntuuser: sorry about that15:44
kaksddkfActionParsnip: i have seen you many times here, solving difficult problems of the guys/gals15:44
Rory!cookie | ActionParsnip15:44
ActionParsnipkaksddkf: www.duckduckgo.com www.google.com is all I use....15:44
ubottuActionParsnip: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!15:44
santoshHey its off-topic but I wanna make friend from US. :P15:44
ActionParsnipsantosh: try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu15:44
ubuntuuserI can talk about Xubuntu here right?15:44
ollie-santosh go to #ubuntu-offtopic15:45
Roryubuntuuser: Might be better suited to #xubuntu15:45
ActionParsnipubuntuuser: yes, Xubuntu is a supported distro from Canonical. Zorin is not15:45
ollie-oh damn, he did it before me15:45
ollie-is there a gui  to change the boot screen?15:46
ollie-or loading..15:46
kaksddkfollie-: use super-boot-manager15:46
ubuntuuserGreat. So I burned a xubuntu 13.10 iso to a CD today and stuck in into my CD drive. Tried to boot it off the bootloader (F12) but drive did not detect anything and went straight to GRUB15:46
ActionParsnipubuntuuser: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?15:47
ActionParsnipubuntuuser: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?15:47
impradeepyollie try plymouth manager15:47
ubuntuuserI burned it at x16 speed so15:47
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ActionParsnipubuntuuser: did you MD5 test the ISO?15:48
ollie-i didnt see super-boot-manager in the software centre, so i will try plymouth manager15:48
Roshanhello, is it a right forum to discuss the troubles with ati ??15:48
ubuntuuserand how do I do it (sorry, Linux NOOB) @ActionParship15:48
ActionParsnipollie-: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u15:48
ActionParsnipollie-: you can choose from the themes you have installed15:49
ActionParsnip!md5 | ubuntuuser15:49
ubottuubuntuuser: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows15:49
ActionParsnipubuntuuser: without MD5 test, how did you know the data was complete and cosistant??15:49
ollie-where can i find alternative themes?15:49
impradeepyollie sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ingalex/super-boot-manager15:49
ollie-oh wait, i will google this15:49
ActionParsnipollie-: there are some in the repos15:49
ikoniaadding that PPA is a bad idea15:49
impradeepysudo apt-get update15:50
impradeepysudo apt-get install super-boot-manager15:50
Roshanthe unity desktop is having trouble wherea s gnome-shell and xubuntu-desktop si working...15:50
ActionParsnipimpradeepy: considering I gave the command to set the theme, seems a bit pointless15:50
ActionParsnipRoshan: Gnome is the desktop, Unity is a shell :)15:50
ollie-"W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ingalex/super-boot-manager/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Package"15:50
ikoniaimpradeepy: adding that PPA is a bad idea.15:50
RoshanActionParsnip gnome-shell is working ..15:51
ikoniaimpradeepy: doing it blindly is an even worse one15:51
ActionParsnipollie-: doesnt support Saucy http://ppa.launchpad.net/ingalex/super-boot-manager/ubuntu/dists15:51
ActionParsnipimpradeepy: ^15:51
impradeepyhmm but without testing15:51
ActionParsnipimpradeepy: only goes up to Raring15:51
impradeepyi am using 13.0415:51
ActionParsnipimpradeepy: ollie- isnt15:51
RoshanActionParsnip i was puzzled to see why lspci -vvnn | grep VGA didnt show ATI?AMD whereas fglrx showed ..15:51
impradeepybut we should try atleast to add something to our repository sometimes it did works15:52
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tapiaHi. I'm having some problems setting a bluetooth speakers15:52
tapiais this the right place to ask?15:52
RoshanActionParnsip: in guest mode , the unity launcher and top panel is coming but no backgrund ..15:52
ActionParsnipimpradeepy: the PPA you advised doesnt support the release the user has, so why advise it?15:53
impradeepyreset unity15:53
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ActionParsnipRoshan: Unity is a plugin for Compiz, Gnome shell uses mutter (might be metacity) either way, fewer issues as junk Compiz isnt running15:54
impradeepyactually was not knowing15:54
ubuntuuserit's the correct MD515:54
ActionParsnipimpradeepy: makes sense to ask first doesnt it15:54
farhangActionParsnip, hi, it hasn't been solved yet :\15:54
impradeepycheers :)15:55
ubuntuuser1048df77899ca8d9d6ba23427b4d6259 (xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso)15:55
RoshanActionParsnip: ya , but how to get opengl module loaded?? my account was blank but in guest modeit is partial blank ..15:55
ActionParsnipfarhang: ok, remove the line from the file, you will need:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf     to get write access15:55
ActionParsnipRoshan: which release are you using?15:55
Roshanubuntu 13.10 amd6415:55
RoshanActionParsnip : ubuntu 13.10 amd6415:56
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ActionParsnipRoshan: not sure then dude. Are there any bugs reported? IMHO Compiz is a joke and should be ditched15:56
RoshanActionParsnip: i hv not tried ubuntu 13.04 .. it is first ubuntu release , i want to try web apps ..15:57
RoshanActionParnsip: so Unity is a joke??15:57
ubuntuuserwelp, MD5 is correct er15:57
ollie-hmm.. i cannot (or dont know how) to add any themes to the boot loader thingy15:58
mbeierlActionParsnip, your opinion of compiz is not relevant to support.  I'm using it (with xfce) as a WM with Emerald as the decorator and it works extremely well for my usage.15:58
ActionParsnipmbeierl: i can still express my opinion16:00
Roshanmbeierl, ok .. let me try the problem of compiz with amd16:00
Roshanmbeierl, my amd driver is Radeon HD 8600M series16:00
maniongI am currently starting my internet connection via a simple shell script which runs "sudo wvdial" (the script is owned by root with a no password clause in sudoers file) but when I run it it keeps a window open titled "sudo". How can I make this run silently in the background?16:01
wheatthinRoshan, you can determine whichi plugin that compiz uses by installing ccsm and disabling each plugin one at a time16:01
impradeepyollie ve u installed themes from synaptics?16:01
auronandacembeierl: isn't emerald no longer maintained?16:02
wheatthinRoshan, perhaps only one plugin is responsible for the crappy performance16:02
zykotick9!emerald | auronandace yes.16:02
ubottuauronandace yes.: emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.16:02
Roshanwheatthin, oh ..ok16:02
sandman13can't really decide between ubuntu and mint16:02
Roshanmaniong ..16:02
Roshanmaniong, put & at the end of the command ..16:03
Roshanmaniong, there u change it to background job :)16:03
ActionParsnipsandman13: the mint community is significantly smaller than Ubuntu's16:03
maniongRoshan, oh ok thanks =)16:03
impradeepysandman13  ubuntu16:03
wheatthinnot that size matters :P16:03
maniongsandman13, try the live cd's for both and decide for yourself... they both have their own merits =)16:04
Roshani think Linux mint switched to debain to avoid the ubuntu security updates .. still theu get debain security patches16:04
Roshanand they are even16:04
sandman13i have run both but cannot decide16:04
MonkeyDustsandman13  flip a coin16:05
impradeepysandman13 try fedora u ll increase ur confussion16:05
Roshanmaniong , u can try learning about hot plug16:05
Roshanmaniong, em trying this .. instead of modprobe everytime16:06
maniongRoshan, wvdial isn't an elegant fix but it's the best I can figure out with this mobile broadband for now.... it's..... utilitarian >_>16:07
wheatthinmaniong, can add it to /etc/modules.d to autoload16:07
longviewbitsI'm using Pidgin, and in Preferences... I've got "Show System Tray Icon" set to Always. But it doesn't show up on the Menu bar.16:07
sandman13impradeepy, i have installed ubuntu16:08
Roshanwheatthin: that way it does modprobe everytime ..or hv to do with modprobe.conf ??16:08
impradeepyso no more confusion? sandman1316:08
wheatthinRoshan, just add it to modules.d, and it'll load the module at boot every time16:09
Roshanwheatthin: does it automatically wvdial everytime when it is hot-plugged or i hv to execute it??16:09
wheatthinahh, you have to execute it16:09
maniong???? I'm not loading any kernel modules just a ppp script16:09
wheatthinahh, then do it with cron16:09
xangualongviewbits: if you are using unity, it will not...pidgin is however integrated to the message indicator (envelope) with the package pidgin-libnotify enabled. If is not, you need to enable it in Tools>Plugins>search for Libnotify16:09
Roshanwheatthin: ok .. let me see ,16:10
sandman13impradeepy: yes and no16:10
impradeepysandman13 13.10?16:10
maniongOh so I can use cron to automagically run wvdial whenever I plug it in?16:10
Phixabhello there16:11
longviewbitsxangua: Libnotify popups?16:11
lecoeuswhat's up people16:11
Phixabi have aprob with xsane to operate the scanner of my canon pixma mp230. Found info about compiling and replace some sane-backend files to have a more updated version to supporet the scanner16:12
Phixabproblöem is that the suggestion using git to get the sources doesnt connect at all16:12
ActionParsnipPhixab: did you check the Canon Europe website for support? They make debs for some of their products.16:13
Phixabalready donne it and installed16:13
Phixabdoesnnt make xsane to work or detect the scanner16:14
Phixabgit clone git://git.debian.org/sane/sane-backends.git16:14
ActionParsnipPhixab: tried simplescan?16:14
Phixabthat command ddint work to conenct to download the sources i need to upgrade16:14
Phixabnone of the scanner apps worlks16:14
Phixab"no scanners detected" on any app strying tooperate the scanner16:15
Phixabthr printing worksw16:15
Phixabjust the scanner that isnt detected yet16:15
Phixaband the sane-backends should be on version at least :16:16
Phixabgit clone git://git.debian.org/sane/sane-backends.git16:16
Phixabroot@lappis:~# scanimage -V16:17
Phixabscanimage (sane-backends) 1.0.22; backend version 1.0.2216:17
Phixabshould be at least 1.0.23 to be able to operate the scanner i have16:17
ActionParsnipPhixab: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue16:17
Phixabread there and the info aboput the git instruction16:17
ActionParsnipPhixab: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue16:18
PhixabUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l16:18
jhutchins_wkPhixab: A rather common problem with recent releases is that the permissions on the scanner device are root only, or a group that the user is not automatically added to.16:19
maniong_Roshan, adding an ampersand after the command didn't seem to help it still runs in a terminal window titled "sudo"16:19
Phixabsure , but thescanimage shows too old version16:19
jhutchins_wkPhixab: You might check /dev and see if the scanner is there, and you might also look through dmesg to see if there are any pertinent messages.16:20
Phixabit wont be detected/operate properly anyways afaik from google16:20
Roshanmaniong .. press enter now16:20
Roshanu ll see the prompt ..now ..16:20
ActionParsnipPhixab: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/sane; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    will give sane-backends 1.0.2316:20
ActionParsnipPhixab: https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/sane?field.series_filter=precise16:20
ActionParsnipPhixab: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=sane-backends16:20
jhutchins_wkmaniong_: cron is strictly a time-based scheduler.  udev is event driven, it can take actions when a device is connected.  There are other systems that can take actions when a connection comes up.16:21
Roshanjhutchins_wk: cool .it s a lot to learn16:22
Phixabty for the backends link16:22
chrisjackonlineSalut a tous comment installer flash player sous ubuntu studio ???16:22
jhutchins_wkRoshan: hotplug and udev are variations on the same kind of approach.16:23
k1l_!fr | chrisjackonline16:23
ubottuchrisjackonline: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:23
Roshanjhutchins_wk: i suppose udev is based on hotplug??16:23
Roshanjhutchins_wk: i mean hotplug is provided by kernel16:23
Phixabit clone git://git.debian.org/sane/sane-backends.git16:24
Phixabdoesnt work for me16:24
Phixabswerver down ?16:24
jhutchins_wkRoshan: Not sure how to explain the differences.  udev is a lower-level, more modern system.  hotplug was an interim system that preceeded it but still has it's uses.16:24
farhangActionParsnip, hi again, sorry i disconnected.16:25
jhutchins_wkPhixab: alioth is down.  Check in #debian.16:25
farhangActionParsnip, after gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  what should i do ????16:25
gazarsgohow do i evaluate the output of free -m ? what's buffers/cache -/+ mean ?16:26
k1l_gazarsgo: linuxatemyram.com explains it quite well16:26
gazarsgohaha awesome16:26
ActionParsnipfarhang: remove the last line, which is the one the command added16:27
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farhangActionParsnip, is this it ?? options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad16:28
VsioZashibishi. someone just shared a folder with me using ubuntu one account. This folder has many many files. Is there a way to download an entire folder instead of individual files ?16:28
ActionParsnipfarhang: yes, then reboot16:29
ActionParsnipfarhang: then run:  alsamixer   and check all levels are maxxed and unmuted16:29
Phixabafter ive added ppa:nightuser/sane-backends-backports into the other sources , can i use this right off from apt-get install ??16:29
Phixabor do i have to update any kind of db first ?16:30
ActionParsnipPhixab: sudo apt-get update   first16:30
molgrumcan i make unitys flashing icons behave like windows 7? i.e. flash the whole icon instead of just the edges?16:31
MonkeyDustmolgrum  unity-tweak-tool has a lot of options and settings16:34
molgrumMonkeyDust: i'll check it out thanks16:35
molgrumi changed from gnome shell to unity and now irc doesn't play and thud-sound :(16:36
heavyammoHi, I need some hardware help for my Acer, my replacement 8 cell battery is not charging, nor Ubuntu related, but could someone please help?16:40
Ari-Yangheavyammo: try #hardware16:41
runesomebody help install adobe flash on the firefox?16:41
runeit's not working on the fb16:41
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danubhey all. It has been so long I have had to change an IP I can't remember the file location. Where is the IP config file at?16:46
danubi thought it was /etc/networks/ but none of the files in there contained IP information16:46
danubdont tell me every one in here uses the gui...16:47
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geniidanub: /etc/network/interfaces16:48
danubgenii: thats what i thought, but it only has the loopback address16:48
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geniidanub: Regardless, that's where you put them if you're doing it manually. man interfaces ...will show some examples16:48
DuelI have a question, I just installed KDE and I like it so far. After a Bit can I just Uninstall Unity?16:49
danubit's set to auto, but i have the IPs set from years ago in the gui config. it has to be reading it's info from somewhere16:49
genii!purekde | Duel16:49
ubottuDuel: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde »16:49
CADBOTIs x forwarding fast enough to game with?16:49
geniiCADBOT: Generally not16:50
CADBOTbummer. thanks!16:50
zykotick9danub: if you "real" network setting aren't in /etc/network/interfaces then you are probably using Network-Manager... i have no idea how that could be configured from terminal?  best of luck.16:50
ActionParsnipDuel: if you want, its quite smalla dn wont save you much space]16:50
danubzykotick9: yeah, network manager. ok, I will go look that info up. Thanks for the tip16:50
DuelActionParsnip, Im just trying to see what one I like the most. It seems just like another Task Bar16:51
ActionParsnipDuel: there are lots of options. Fun to explore16:51
* bunduru is away: I'm now away16:55
ActionParsnip!away > bunduru16:55
ubottubunduru, please see my private message16:55
DuelAnyone on Kubuntu here?16:57
danub_zykotick9: for future reference, /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/{connection_name}.16:58
wheatthinDuel, what about it? Did you need help, or are you trying to take sensus?16:58
geniiDuel: For Kubuntu support, please visit the #kubuntu channel :)16:59
Duelwheatthin, I Just want to see more desktops, When I google Kubutu tops their all the same17:00
CADBOTDumb question: Command line equivalent of right click run?17:00
CADBOT./file isn't doing what I want17:00
wheatthinDuel, then this isn't the place.17:00
DuelWhere would I need to go?17:01
Ari-YangCADBOT: if you're on unity click the dashboard and search for terminal17:01
wheatthinnot a support channel, that's for sure.17:01
PiciDuel: #kubuntu-offtopic maybe?17:01
lecoeusDuel: you want to see kde screenshots?17:01
Ari-YangCADBOT: ctrl+alt+t should work tooo17:01
CADBOTAri-Yang: I'm already in the terminal17:01
CADBOTif I have a file named x17:01
Ari-YangCADBOT: oh sh ./file17:01
CADBOTawesome thanks17:02
CADBOTNope no go17:02
CADBOTright click run (when going through the GUI) works17:02
CADBOTsh ./filename no go17:02
PiciCADBOT: What is the file?17:02
Duellecoeus, Yea17:02
lecoeusDuel: try http://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn17:03
wheatthinCADBOT, is this a script you made yourself?17:03
lecoeusit's not just kde but you can filter if you like17:03
Duellecoeus, Yes?17:03
CADBOTNope. and its executable type17:03
PiciCADBOT: What is the file?17:03
PiciCADBOT: Is it a binary? A script?17:03
CADBOTIt's a binary17:04
CADBOTNot a script17:04
PiciCADBOT: And what happens when you try to run it on the terminal?17:04
CADBOT./filename spits out some path command line info17:05
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CADBOTbut doesn't open up any windows like when I double click on it or right click run it17:05
jhutchins_wkCADBOT: What does file <filename> tell you it is?17:05
wheatthinmight need to specify something17:05
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CADBOTELF 64-bit LSB executable, dynamically linked (uses sahred libs)17:06
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.17:06
jhutchins_wkCADBOT: Try ./filename --help, also paste the actual error.17:06
CADBOTThat's the funny part, it doesn't give any actual errors17:07
CADBOTI think the problem is mono is trying to open it up when I run it through the term17:07
CADBOTbut something else runs it when I go through the GUI17:07
CADBOTThanks for your help all, but I'm gonna table try to this and just run on a different file17:08
CADBOTI was only doing it to test something17:09
heavyammoAri-Yang, thanks for the hardware channel17:11
chamunksAnyone know good software for livestreaming in ubuntu?17:11
chamunksI feel like messing about in the CLI with ffmpeg while I'm trying to stream something would be a bit unprofessional.17:11
Togusachamunks: twitchtv/ustream/etc?17:11
Togusai agree it's not really user friendly17:13
Togusabut once you get it working it's not much of an issue17:13
Togusaffmpeg was the only thing working for me17:13
jubale I'm having a problem with CPU Monitor screenlet launching 6 screenlets when I only want 3. Plus, since yesterday, two image boxes are opening which I never launched in the first place.17:13
chamunksTogusa, yeh my issue is I'd like to get my LowerThird over it and isolate only one monitor etc.17:14
Togusawell, i know there's a software called openbroadcaster but i'm not sure if they offer a linux build17:15
chamunksyeah they don't :(17:16
chamunksWell have you any advice?17:17
chamunksThere doesn't seem to be much documentation on how to do this kinda stuff.17:17
harsh410hi all17:17
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harsh410can any body help me in developing for ubuntu17:17
harsh410some sort of guidance17:17
chamunksharsh410, you must be fairly new to irc.  Generally asking the question is more efficient.17:18
chamunksharsh410, also I didn't intend to come off as an asshat my apologies.17:18
harsh410well thats correct @chamunks17:18
harsh410i am new here17:18
Togusachamunks: truth is that even on Windows you don't have so many softwares for this (and the most known one works with a monthly subscription -.-)17:19
harsh410@chamunks its ok ..atleast ur guiding me17:19
chamunksFFSplit, OBS, Xsplit, seem to be the best options but I think  there are one or two others but those are the biggies.17:19
harsh410@chamunks i know php...and have done some coding on C++ in past17:20
chamunksOBS doesn't support linux sadly and I don't think ffsplit does either and they're both "open source"17:20
Togusachamunks: i found this https://github.com/Pholey/Xstreamer17:20
chamunksharsh410, fair enough what is it that you're looking to get out of here.17:20
harsh410@chamunks u want me to get out of here??17:20
harsh410i came here to learn and see :)17:20
chamunksharsh410, absolutely not.17:21
chamunksI'm just curious.17:21
chamunksEssentially trying to help you figure out what you're looking to find out.17:21
Togusaharsh410: "to get out of here" as in "what are you looking for"17:21
Togusaharsh410: he wasn't telling you to go away! :)17:21
chamunks95% of the time in IRC the problem lies in knowing the correct question to ask.17:21
harsh410togusa chamunk ok17:22
harsh410i will put my question17:22
chamunksI'm the farthest thing from an authority in here regardless.17:22
harsh410i have downloaded php gtk17:22
harsh410i know some php and c++17:22
Togusaharsh410: are you asking "how to contribute to ubuntu" or "i want to program something on ubuntu"?17:23
harsh410i want to program something on ubuntu17:23
MonkeyDustharsh410  try #ubuntu-app-devel17:23
chamunksthat would likely be a good place to start /j #ubuntu-app-devel17:24
Togusaharsh410: you don't need any particular procedure then17:24
Togusaharsh410: you can follow the quickstart tutorials of the framework you decided to use (gtk, right?)17:25
lecoeusharsh410: gtk has php bindings?17:25
Togusai thought you were going to use c++ :D17:25
harsh410i got some info17:25
harsh410after 5-6 hrs i was successful in installing a php gtk17:25
gimmicso where is the conf for the desktop configuration during the login screen?17:25
gimmicI noticed my multimonitor configuration is wrong during login, but fine under my user account17:26
chamunksharsh410, you could just use tasksel to install a full out LAMP stack17:26
lecoeusi don't think i ever saw a php app in gtk17:26
chamunks[Linux Apache MySQL PHP] = Lamp17:26
Togusagimmic: not working for me either, as i have two monitors with different resolution :/17:26
Togusagimmic: it's just ugly, not a real issue as it works fine when you login17:26
harsh410@chamunks but then it willalways need a lamp17:26
gimmicYeah, I've got 3- two are the same and one is a diff resolution17:26
gimmicmy problem is actually just the order17:27
chamunksPHP as far as I thought PHP was something that required a web server.17:27
gimmic1 - 2 - 3 in my userenv is 1 - 3 - 2 during login17:27
Togusagimmic: i tried to force both order and resolution several times, i just gave up17:27
Togusagimmic: if you find a way let me know17:27
harsh410@lecoeus yes ur right this is why i came here to check iif i am on right track17:27
gimmicwill do17:27
chamunksok I've got to head off.  Thanks Togusa I'll look into those things.17:27
gimmicit will bother me otherwise, OCD powers activate!17:27
Togusachamunks: see ya!17:27
Togusagimmic: only thing you can do is to move the physical screens17:27
gimmicnot an option17:28
gimmicthe center display is larger than the other side ones17:28
Togusagimmic: because you probably changed the order from inside env17:28
lecoeusharsh410: i would take a look at c++ and qt17:28
gimmicwell, the login screen has to have it's own env, else how would the multimonitor even work17:28
lecoeusharsh410: qtcreator is a really nice ide for that17:28
Togusagimmic: i see :/ well you might try to force it using xorg.conf but i never managed to get it working17:28
gimmicI'll poke at it17:28
Togusaharsh410: i support lecoeus, i love Qt :)17:29
harsh410@lecoeus and python?17:29
lecoeuspython is good too17:29
lecoeusit also has qt bindings17:29
lecoeusand gtk17:29
Togusaharsh410: for Python you can use PyCharm: http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/17:29
lecoeusdepends on what you want to program really17:29
Togusait's got a free of charge edition (community)17:30
lecoeusunless it's too performance-dependent, python is good17:30
harsh410Togusa:  ok17:30
harsh410Togusa: i want to develop things that can be used in a lan17:30
harsh410Togusa: office use etc17:30
Togusaharsh410: well, use Python then17:33
Togusareally, any language is fine17:33
harsh410Togusa:  ok thx ..and how is ubuntu demand in  Europe17:33
Togusaharsh410: what do you mean? are you talking about market share?17:34
harsh410Togusa: yes ubuntu in market or people using it..or companies implementing servers on it ..17:35
lecoeusharsh410: not very different compared to other places17:36
Togusaharsh410: most servers (afaik) use centos/red hat/debian17:36
lecoeusharsh410: i have found opensuse is popular in europe17:36
lecoeusit might be the only continent in which it is actually popular17:36
Togusaharsh410: but if you develop using Python + Qt or C++/Qt you don't really care about the platform17:36
Togusayou of course have to avoid stuff like hard-coding paths, using native APIs directly etc17:37
harsh410Togusa:  ok thats a precious info..so wat i develop for ubuntu can work for suse etc as well17:38
Togusayes, if done right17:38
harsh410Togusa: i appreciate the help..can qt work for windows as well17:39
Togusaharsh410: you can almost run it on your coffee making machine =)17:40
Togusaharsh410: it works everywhere, and you can easily obtain a fully functional build environment from the Qt Project website17:40
Togusaharsh410: not sure what's the procedure if you want to use Qt with Python, as i've never done it17:40
oaulakhhow to connect iphone with ubuntu?17:41
lecoeusyou still build the ui in qtcreator17:41
lecoeusthen you import it in the python script17:41
ActionParsnipoaulakh: SUB cable usually17:41
harsh410lecoeus: ok17:41
Hejkkisub cable? :o17:41
ActionParsnipoaulakh: USB*17:42
ActionParsnipoaulakh: or use Bluetooth17:42
oaulakhbut how to add songs without itunes?17:42
ActionParsnipoaulakh: banshee or Rhythmbox17:42
oaulakhhow with banshee?17:43
gimmicTogusa: for the login monitor thing, did you try copying user's ~./config/monitors.xml to /var/lib/lightdm/.config/ ?17:45
gimmiclooks like the default conf lightdm uses is there17:46
Togusagimmic: i didn't, as i'm using KDM17:46
Togusabut let me know if it works17:46
Togusagimmic: we just have to hang in here until we have wayland =)17:47
hexorgHey guys... How to install gcc with openmp support? I have installed gcc, but #gcc -v doesn't show openmp17:47
hexorgHello, spurlz17:49
Togusahexorg: you might need to install something else: apt-cache search gomp17:49
lotuspsychjeim looking for an alternative to 'prey' an anti-theft package for laptops, any sugestions?17:50
lotuspsychje!info prey17:50
ubottuprey (source: prey): utility for tracking stolen computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-7.1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 527 kB, installed size 1101 kB17:50
lotuspsychjeor maybe a script that can email location of laptop every ubuntu boot17:50
pnglI'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 14.04 daily in EFI mode on a new laptop (Sony Vaio Pro 13) alongside Windows 8. Could someone help me out? At install time, I get: "grub-efi-amd64-signed could not be installed to /target/..."17:51
lotuspsychje!14.04 | pngl17:51
ubottupngl: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info.17:51
pngllotuspsychje: ?17:51
lotuspsychjepngl: join #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 talk17:52
pngllotuspsychje: thanks!17:52
lotuspsychjepngl: yw :p17:52
anshudharfwfslflfl v9hd17:54
lotuspsychje!test | anshudhar17:54
ubottuanshudhar: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )17:54
mathfreak_so the Ubuntu Developer Summit is coming up. Is there a video stream I can watch?17:56
sandman13what size of swap space should be allocated for 4gb ram and 500gb hardisk17:56
lotuspsychje!swap | sandman1317:56
ubottusandman13: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info17:56
ActionParsnipsandman13: 4.4Gb is what I'd suggest17:57
sandman13can it later be extended? i have given 2gb only17:58
mathfreak_sandman13: You can make a swap file instead of a partition instead17:58
mathfreak_sandman13: This would give you the ability to make your swap larger if you really need to in the future17:58
lotuspsychjemathfreak_: maybe the ubuntu dev guys might know?17:58
mathfreak_sandman13: swap doesn't have to be its own partition. You can use a file for swap space instead17:59
lotuspsychjemathfreak_: #ubuntu-devel17:59
allstarsnorks2guess which distro made my sound card not work on linux17:59
mathfreak_thanks lotuspsychje17:59
zykotick9mathfreak_: i believe UDS is now held on G+ :(17:59
Ari-Yang[12:11:17] <chamunks> Anyone know good software for livestreaming in ubuntu? ---> quvi?18:00
mathfreak_zykotick9: Ah. I guess I'll have to make a fake G+ account to watch then18:00
lotuspsychjeallstarsnorks2: better ask your issue mate18:00
* Ari-Yang shrugs18:00
mathfreak_sandman13: https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space18:00
Ari-Yang!quvi | chamunks18:00
mathfreak_sandman13: That page describes how to make a swap file (instead of a swap partition). Scroll down to "Swap file"18:00
allstarsnorks2After I watched a YouTube video, the sound was killed off18:00
lotuspsychjeallstarsnorks2: anything usefull in /var/log/syslog.1?18:01
allstarsnorks2where can i find this?18:01
sandman13mathfreak_ i have seen this http://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/adding-swap-partition-after-system-installation18:01
lotuspsychjeallstarsnorks2: browse your hd with nautilus and goto /var/log18:02
lotuspsychjeallstarsnorks2: or open logviewer18:02
jubaleWhich is the best app for playing DVD movies now?18:03
mathfreak_sandman13: Seems like the answers there describe how to make a partition for swap (which you can do, but it's not necessary).18:03
lotuspsychjejubale: i like vlc18:03
jubaleVLC tries loading movie, but it goes blank.18:03
sandman13is 2gb okay for now mathfreak_18:03
lotuspsychjejubale: did you open the whole folder with vlc?18:03
daftykinsjubale: do you have restricted extras installed?18:03
mathfreak_sandman13: 2 GB sounds great. To be honest, as a single-user, I've never really needed to use swap, at all.18:04
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lotuspsychjejubale: graphics card driver installed?18:04
sandman13okay will see you after installation18:04
jubaleWhich folder, VIDEO_TS?18:04
allstarsnorks2Nov 18 15:08:28 weijie-ThinkPad-SL gnome-session[2591]: CRITICAL: gsm_manager_set_phase: assertion `GSM_IS_MANAGER (manager)' failed Nov 18 15:08:28 weijie-ThinkPad-SL gnome-session[2591]: Gtk-CRITICAL: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed18:04
lotuspsychjejubale: you need to play the folder containing video_ts and audio_ts with vlc18:05
hexorgthis is wierd... packages.ubuntu.com list libfftw3_omp.a as one of the files. But it's not on my system when I install libfftw3-dev :-(18:05
sandman13what does encrypt my home folder means18:07
mojtabaHi, Will ubuntu become slow by installing hundreds of apps? like windows?18:07
lotuspsychje!encrypt | sandman1318:07
ubottusandman13: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory18:07
allstarsnorks2where can i find help from Ubuntu Builder?18:08
lotuspsychjemojtaba: it all depends how full your hd is18:08
daftykinsmojtaba: depends on your storage hardware18:08
sandman13lotuspsychje: can't get a thing18:08
mathfreak_sandman13: Encrypting your home folder means just that. Your home folder becomes encrypted when you are logged out, and ecryptfs will decrypt your home folder's contents as-needed when you log in.18:08
mojtabalotuspsychje: daftykins: Suppose I have enough storage18:08
daftykinsmojtaba: no, it's about the type - SSD vs. HDD etc.18:09
sandman13mathfreak_ that means i have to enter password every time i access the home folder18:09
trismhexorg: which arch? I see it on amd64 here: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfftw3_omp.a18:09
mojtabadaftykins: Is it possible to move around the installed app in ubuntu?18:09
daftykinsmojtaba: sorry i don't understand18:10
amesbury_eui have checked the hash sum for the PCBSD DVD.iso that i've downoaded & now need to check this against the hash sum for the DVD which is provided as a bin file ending md5 & i've cd'd into the correct directory. what command should i use to compare the DVD hash sum with .bin file hash sum?18:10
daftykinsoh you mean like defragmenting?18:10
ActionParsnipsandman13: if you want to hibernate / suspend you will need as much swap as you do RAM18:10
Togusaamesbury_eu: openssl md5 filename.bin18:10
mojtabadaftykins: In windows if I change the folder of an application it will not work. Is it the same in ubuntu?18:10
mathfreak_sandman13: You have to enter your password once (at log in). Usage remains the same as if it was unencrypted.18:10
ActionParsnipmojtaba: how do you 'change the folder' of an application?18:10
daftykinsmojtaba: yep18:11
amesbury_euTogusa thanks!18:11
ActionParsnip!test | gimmic18:11
ubottugimmic: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )18:11
auronandace!test | gimmic18:11
sandman13ActionParsnip: suspend mean sleep in ubuntu18:11
ActionParsnipsandman13: that sort of thing, yes18:11
gimmicWasn't even in the right window18:11
sandman13mathfreak_: argh can't decide what to do18:11
gimmicTogusa: the monitors.xml worked great btw for lightdm18:11
Togusagimmic: nice! only issue is that i often move my laptop and i don't always have the same monitor18:12
mathfreak_sandman13: If you think your data can be read by people you don't want reading it, encrypt your home directory. Otherwise, you're fine not encrypting anything.18:12
bunduruhow to tell ubuntu to accept loopback only on certain port?18:12
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gimmicI had that issue in fedora, but now I'm on a desktop so no worries about hardware changes18:12
sandman13mathfreak_ thanks18:13
mathfreak_sandman13: I have an unencrypted home directory, but I set up an encrypted subdirectory if I need to encrypt anything.18:13
amesbury_euTogusa re:md5 thanks again that worked & also noted for phuture reference. be well!18:14
zykotick9bunduru: ahhh, loopback gets used by a lot in *nix land.  you're headed for tears trying to block localhost connections... (i have NO idea why you'd want to)18:15
olegHey hey hey18:16
bunduruzykotick9, i wanted to only accept loopback connection to the web interface of ktorrent.. which is plain http18:17
zykotick9bunduru: IF you do that, there are going to be serious problems...18:17
bundurusince i can ssh into the machine i could just create a tunnel for that18:17
bunduruhow come :s18:18
Togusabunduru: can you define "loopback"? because it looks like you're asking for something else18:19
zykotick9bunduru: try it, then report back on what gets broken (i'd expect a LONG list...)  good luck.18:19
david38400I just changed from Linux Mint to Ubuntu 12.04.My technician did this for me, but I was told 13.04 was available and better. Is this true? Thanks18:19
zykotick9bunduru: if you use Network-Manager, i'd expect DNS won't work anymore... for one thing.18:20
auronandacedavid38400: 13.04 is available, better depends on your needs18:20
bunduruTogusa, i mean localhost
Togusabunduru: only reason to block it is because you're not trusting what you're running on your own machine18:21
mathfreak_^ if that's the case, you have bigger problems.18:21
Togusais that machine used by other users as well?18:21
bunduruno just me18:21
Togusathen you don't really need to block connections on
Togusayou just need to disable access from the outside18:22
bunduruwow i didnt say that18:22
Togusawell, that's what you asked18:22
bundurui said the oposite18:22
Togusamaybe your question wasn't well written and/or we didn't understand it18:22
david38400auronandace, My needs are just for home, video, music and internet.18:22
bunduruok sorry i'll try to explain18:22
auronandacedavid38400: then what is wrong with 12.04?18:23
Togusaok then you want ktorrent to accept connections only on
Togusaand still use it remotely18:23
ActionParsnipdavid38400: 13.10 and 13.04 have quite short lifecycles.18:23
ActionParsnipdavid38400: if you stick with 12.04, you can upgrade to Trusty (14.04) in one jump in April next year18:23
mathfreak_david38400: newer != better18:23
ActionParsnipdavid38400: as it is LTS to LTS upgrade18:24
bunduruso ktorrent web interface runs on port 80 for example (plain http) and i just want to make this available on that host (localhost), so the only way to access it would be in the machine which is running ktorrent and not from the network18:24
Togusabunduru: ok then, see if you can open the settings for the web interface, and see if you can set the address the program binds to18:25
beanbunduru: it only really matters if there are others on your network18:25
zykotick9bunduru: that makes a LOT more sense!  see if ktorrent has an option to ONLY work with localhost.  don't actually touch LO settings!18:25
troulouliou_devhi how can i stop pulseaudio manually ?18:25
troulouliou_devkilling it respawn uatmatically a new process18:26
ActionParsnipbunduru: then in your browser go o http://localhost:80   and it will show, right?18:26
zykotick9troulouliou_dev: if you use gnome/unity - expect issue if you disable Pulse.18:26
commodore256 mudkip9001mizugorou18:26
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bunduruno option to set the ip only the port18:27
david38400ActionParsnip, mathfreak_ Thanks for your help. Will wait to upgrade to 14.04 in April then.......18:27
bunduruActionParsnip, yes but i can still access the web interface from any pc on the network18:27
SuperLagActionParsnip: I take back what I said about radeon.18:27
Togusabunduru: you will then have to use a firewall to block the port18:27
ActionParsnipbunduru: so you only want to be able to access it from the server, and no other system?18:28
david38400auronandace, Sorry I didn't mean to say anything was wrong at all.   It's just a friend didn't understand why I had 12.04 if 13 was out, but with the news from the others best to upgrade to 14 next April.18:28
troulouliou_devzykotick9, i need to disable it for xbmc18:28
chamunksAri-Yang, doesn't look like that factoid exists.18:28
trismtroulouliou_dev: you need autospawn=no in ~/.config/pulse/client.conf, see: man pulse-client.conf18:28
SuperLagActionParsnip: it configures much easier, and keeps settings... but its quality is not good, compared to the closed source drivers. Ugh. Both ways suck.18:28
bundurucorrect ActionParsnip =)18:28
ActionParsnipbunduru: ok, I'll have a look at ktorrent to see if its configurable there18:28
djangonoobI have a hp 840 g1 notebook with a Wireless-AC 7260 module which I can't get running under ubuntu 12.0418:29
auronandacedavid38400: not sure why you mentioned 13.04 specifically since 13.10 is the latest release18:29
troulouliou_devtrism, ha ok thanks18:29
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bunduruhmmm not from the gui at least as far as i can tell18:29
bunduruTogusa, i guess that could work block the port18:30
troulouliou_devtrism pulseaudio is still started with "service pulseaudio" ? ot it is an xdg /autostart ?18:30
ActionParsnipbunduru: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/19138/ktorrent-web-interface.html18:30
trismtroulouliou_dev: xdg autostart18:31
bunduruTogusa,  we are talking about creating iptable rules y?18:33
Togusaif there is no other way, yes18:33
Togusabunduru: have you checked out ActionParsnip's link?18:34
Togusacan you setup a whitelist from the web interface?18:34
bunduruyup i was just reading.. something about accepting only localhost connections by default but it weird cause im able to see it from another computer18:35
lotuspsychje!info quvi | chamunks18:37
ubottuchamunks: quvi (source: quvi): command line program to extract video download links. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.4.2-1 (saucy), package size 22 kB, installed size 82 kB18:37
Togusalotuspsychje: he needs to stream18:37
Togusahe doesn't need to download them18:37
chamunksI don't know if thats what I need.18:37
chamunksI'm trying to go the other way but thats pretty slick for ripping things out of a flash situation.18:38
lotuspsychjeTogusa: i just correct what Ari-Yang sugested him18:38
ActionParsnipchamunks: do you wnat to rip MP3 from YouTube videos?18:38
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chamunksI want to twitch.tv stream18:38
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chamunksI'm looking to send video to a streaming site.18:38
bunduruTogusa, no whitelist option18:39
Togusasudo netstat lnp | grep -i ktorrent18:39
Togusasee if it's at least binding to the local area network18:39
Togusayou will then have to block the port with iptables18:40
Togusai remember there was a tool called "guarddog", but i don't know if you can find it anymore18:40
Togusaor you can also use ufw (isn't it the one used by ubuntu?)18:40
lotuspsychjechamunks: alot of tutorials on streaming twitch with vlc ot there...18:40
justin__Hi i sear a german18:40
lotuspsychje!de | justin__18:40
ubottujustin__: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:40
bunduruActionParsnip, "...By default KTorrent WebAdmin will ONLY allow connections from the localhost..." this wasn't true in my experience :s18:41
djangonoobI have a hp 840 g1 notebook with a Wireless-AC 7260 module which I can't get running under ubuntu 12.04. does anybody know which driver I need?18:41
bundurumaybe i have to access some config file through cli?18:41
ActionParsnipbunduru: check the whitelist of the application18:42
lotuspsychjechamunks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/314144/how-to-stream-on-twitch-tv18:42
lotuspsychje!wifi | djangonoob18:43
ubottudjangonoob: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:43
Rorydjangonoob: To clarify, do you mean you can't get any connection at all, or you can get one but only running at wireless-A speeds? Could you please run the command "lspci -v" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com18:44
daftykinsRory: -ac is the newer standard, i imagine that's the query18:44
bunduruActionParsnip, i dont see any whitelist option, are we talking about the gui?18:45
liuyixdjangonoob:  what is the problem?18:45
_joeyhow do I configure software update to notify me of new updates weekly?18:46
djangonoobRory: I can't see any networks18:46
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xangua_joey: Software Center>Edit>Sources>Update tab18:47
liuyix_joey: in the update settings where you hit the advanced btn in the update dialog if i remembered correctly18:48
Rorydjangonoob: Do you have another method of accessing the Internet on that device? If so, could you go to the Additional Drivers tool and see if there are any listed there?18:48
djangonoobRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6438857/18:48
djangonooblan is working18:49
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valeskAnyone experiencing crazy ping in 13.10?18:50
valeskon wifi18:50
liuyixvalesk: what is it18:50
valeskI'm getting random 200-700 pinging google18:51
valeskJust hangs since the upgrade18:51
djangonoobRory: I don't know if it helps but there is a hardware button to enable/disable wifi but nothing happens if pressed18:51
Rorydjangonoob: OK I am looking, but I just moved house and I have temperamental Internet tethered through my phone, so it is slow18:52
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molgrumwhy do i hear xchat thud-sound in gnome shell but not in unity?18:52
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bunduruso... i guess the only option is to mess with iptables!?18:54
Rorydjangonoob: Could you please pastebin again for me, this time "sudo lspci -vv"18:54
chamunksbunduru, I've not been paying attention but ufw?18:54
david38400auronandace, It was my mistake, don't worry and thanks for your help.18:54
sandman13is ubuntu protected from malware attacks like cryptolocker?18:54
chamunks!ufw bunduru18:54
Rorydjangonoob: If you think you can just pastebin the part about your wireless card, do that18:54
chamunks!ufw | bunduru18:55
ubottubunduru: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo18:55
Rorysandman13: Cryptolocker targets Windows and doesn't run on Gnu/Linux distributions like Ubuntu18:55
Rory!antivirus | sandman1318:55
ubottusandman13: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus18:55
sandman13good to hear Rory18:56
auronandacedavid38400: sorry for misunderstanding, when 14.04 come out i hope your upgrade goes smoothly18:56
lotuspsychjesandman13: there are good browser addons to protect from malware aswell18:56
charity_Hi. This is my graphics card information: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)18:56
charity_Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]18:56
lotuspsychjesandman13: maybe ask in #firefox18:56
Fuzzlescan someone help me get hdmi auido? no option in settings?18:56
RoryFuzzles: Is it a laptop? What is the make and model?18:57
sandman13will do lotuspsychje18:57
FuzzlesRory, nope its a desktop18:57
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RoryFuzzles: OK then what is the hardware which is providing the HDMI port, is it on a graphics card?18:57
lotuspsychje!security | sandman1318:57
ubottusandman13: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server18:57
charity_My graphics have seemed to downgrade since using Windows 8. Is there a way to fix this?18:58
FuzzlesRory, yes radeon hd 3 series, the picture is fine after changeing res to fit just no audio18:58
djangonoobRory: hope this is all you need... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6438892/18:59
sandman13lotuspsychje ubuntu does have a firewall after installation right?18:59
lotuspsychje!ufw | sandman1318:59
ubottusandman13: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo18:59
bunduruthanks chamunks i dont know if setting a rule is the best option19:00
sandman13lotuspsychje do i need antivirus here on ubuntu i don't have any kind of link to windows19:01
auronandacesandman13: likely not19:01
charity_Do I just need to install different drivers for my graphics card? Will that fix the problem?19:02
auronandace!av | sandman1319:02
ubottusandman13: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus19:02
lotuspsychjesandman13: its always good to have a healthy paranoid, lets say someone targets you, its best to be prudent19:02
bekkscharity_: which graphics hw do you have?19:02
lotuspsychjesandman13: check clamav, snort, rkhunter19:02
sandman13will do19:03
charity_Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)19:03
charity_Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]19:03
lotuspsychjesandman13: and read the security guide, alot of usefull info there19:03
liuyixsandman13:  most users actually on need av19:03
FuzzlesRory, any ideas?19:05
sandman13lotuspsychje although i am new to linux only a day old but the community makes me feel like i'm quite old here19:05
charity_bekks: that is what it says in my system settings.19:06
lotuspsychjesandman13: we are not trying to make you feel old :p19:06
auronandacesandman13: don't worry, nobody starts out knowing everything19:06
sandman13lotuspsychje by old i mean experienced:)19:07
lotuspsychjesandman13: well this room has reputation to treat everyone with respect19:07
david38400 auronandace     no problem, thanks for your help, it is appreciated19:07
auronandacedavid38400: no worries, have fun19:08
charity_bekks: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)19:09
charity_Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]19:09
RoryI'm sorry everyone djangonoob Fuzzles my Internet is so bad I can barely even get a shell to my IRC client. I'm going to have to go and do something else. I hope you get your problems solved19:09
FuzzlesRory, its ok mate thanks19:10
sandman13lotuspsychje: so according to the antivirus article i need to install AV to ensure that i don't become the carrier of the malicious software19:10
sandman13lotuspsychje: will still install ClampAV19:10
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lotuspsychjesandman13: on ubuntu, you will be pretty much secure, but still its always good to see whats happening19:11
sandman13lotuspsychje: right19:11
lotuspsychjesandman13: if you use pcbanking and hit a malicious banner, they still can hijack you right19:11
sandman13lotuspsychje: right19:11
lotuspsychjesandman13: with ubuntu and common sense you will go a long secure way19:12
sandman13lotuspsychje: thanks for help i gotta go now19:13
lotuspsychjesandman13: good luck!19:13
sandman13lotuspsychje: thanks once again19:13
dgarstang3darn it. how do I display the stripe size of an lvm volume?19:14
Fuzzlescan someone help me get hdmi auido? no option in settings?19:14
heavyammoPrivacy etc. is my mine reason why I switched19:14
lotuspsychje!lvm | dgarstang319:14
ubottudgarstang3: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto19:14
lotuspsychjeheavyammo: good idea19:15
charity_My graphics card does not work as well as it did when I was using Windows 8.19:15
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dgarstang3ubottu: nothing there answers my question but thanks anyay19:16
ubottudgarstang3: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:16
dgarstang3darn it19:16
lotuspsychjecharity_: did you install correct ubuntu drivers?19:16
naz ubuntu, dual monitors, nvidia, quake live is combo possible and has anyone here done it?19:16
nazis this combo*19:16
charity_I see no additional drivers19:17
charity_I assume my drivers came working out of the box. They just don't work all that well19:18
david38400I have a question about the webcam.... I purchased a Logitech Webcam C170 supposedly plug and play. I can't get it to work. Any suggestions please?19:19
david38400My system is Ubuntu 12.0419:19
nazHere is a good question about drivers and ubuntu... In 12.04 I could go right to my graphics drivers and manage which version etc. 13.10 I can't find for the life of me where my gfx drivers are located any one know?19:20
zykotick9david38400: does it work in cheese?  <- first step in webcam troubleshooting19:20
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charity_this is my graphics info Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)19:21
charity_Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]19:21
molgrumis there a dev channel for ubutnu, specifically unity?19:21
wheatthin#ubuntu+1  ?19:21
lordcrusader_i like to know how to enable mod_rewrite in apache2 ubuntu 13.10 and .htaccess guide19:22
molgrumah, might be a start19:22
theadminmolgrum: #ubuntu-dev I think19:22
theadminmolgrum: Nope, #ubuntu-devel19:22
junkarythmbox crushes when I try to stream a radio station19:22
FiremanEd#ubuntu-devel actually19:22
DJonesmolgrum: Maybe something to ask in #ubuntu-desktop, may not be the right channel, but they may have an idea19:22
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david38400zykotick9, Never heard of it? How do I start?19:23
badgerhello can anyone see this i dont know if i am connected19:23
sc99nicolausserver irc.openjoke.org19:23
ollie-lordcrusader: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869092/how-to-enable-mod-rewrite-for-apache-2-219:23
zykotick9david38400: install it, then run cheese19:23
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server19:24
DJonesbadger: Nope, you're not connected and we can see you :)19:24
sc99nicolausjoin server #irc.openjoke.org19:24
badgergahah cheers djones19:24
molgrumhey while i'm at it, i get no "thud"-sound in xchat when i'm using unity, but with gnome shell it's ok19:24
kwokis linux more secure then mac19:25
ollie-*lordcrusader_ : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869092/how-to-enable-mod-rewrite-for-apache-2-219:25
lordcrusader_ollie -  i have tried this but this never helped me.. i tried to run cakephp framework it needs modrewrite for htaccess to run successfully19:25
badgerverytime i do a fresh install of ubuntu i find myself back here asking for help can anypone get wifi working with dell inspiron 1520  its working wired but its one of those bloody annoying broadcom cardds 4311 i  believe19:26
ollie-i didnt mean to send that twice, have you done AllowOverride All in the site configuration?19:26
Picilordcrusader_: sudo a2enmod rewrite    should take care of it19:26
lordcrusader_@ollie -  i have tried this but this never helped me.. i tried to run cakephp framework it needs modrewrite for htaccess to run successfully19:26
kwokdoes anyone know if linux is very secure os19:26
badger i have done thsi becore19:26
zykotick9!broadcom | lordcrusader_19:26
ubottulordcrusader_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx19:26
badgerKWOK yes19:27
badgervery secure19:27
kwokis it more secure19:27
kwokthen mac19:27
ollie-kwok, it is more secure than windows19:27
lordcrusader_*pici . i run this command already it says enabled . but not working properly19:27
zykotick9ollie-: that doesn't say much ;)19:27
Picilordcrusader_: Have you restarted apache2 after doing that?19:27
badgerubottu thanks what has worked before doesnt always work the  next time thanks though19:28
ubottubadger: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:28
kwokis mac just as secure as linux19:28
badgeroh shit you are a bot does this mean skynet is on to me?19:28
xanguakwok: do you have an ubuntu support question¿19:28
auronandace!ot | kwok19:29
lordcrusader_ubottu what's this link says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?19:29
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:29
xangua!language | badger19:29
ubottukwok: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:29
ubottubadger: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:29
badgerkwok, probably as secure maybe slightley less19:29
ollie-kwok, linux isnt targeted as much as windows and mac19:29
david38400zykotick9, Thanks will try cheese19:29
lordcrusader_ubottu what's this link says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx? is anything relevant wtih modrewrite19:29
somanWhat soft can I use to create a video tutorials in ubuntu? I mean some screen recording app which can show pressed buttons and some other features.19:29
badgerthink about how many people use windows vs mac os and linux, people write viruses and malware to be  most efficient19:29
auronandacebadger: take the discussion elsewhere19:30
badgerlordcrusader are u having friver issuses to?19:30
badgerauronandace Have I offeneded?19:30
zykotick9badger: you are using some bad logic there!  servers are better targets then desktops, but there are few *nix viruses/malware, and LOT of linux servers.19:30
ELFrederichAny easy DVD authoring software?  I ripped a Blu-Ray and want it on DVD so I can play it in another room in my house19:31
auronandacebadger: no, i thought you were about to talk at length on the subject in a dedicated support channel19:31
lordcrusader_badger sorry to ask friver isssue means what?19:31
badgerfair enough you obviiously knwo more than me19:31
kwokis just that someone try to hack19:31
badgerlordcrusader I meant driver issue19:31
kwokme on my ubuntu box19:31
doomwolfi was able to change my user icon in xfce 4 !!!! yes i fucking rule19:32
badgerkwok, how do you mean?19:32
Picidoomwolf: great, but please mind your language here.19:32
lordcrusader_badger i hope dont have any driver issues19:32
doomwolfright on19:32
kwoklike trying to guess my username19:32
kwokand password19:32
ollie-doomwolf, your user picture?19:32
badgerno i do19:32
badgerbroadcom is a biatch19:32
Fuzzleshow do i get hdmi audio19:32
badger4311 everytime i get it running i have to sort it on a fresh install19:33
badgertoo many tutorials19:33
junkahello I get an error of "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"19:33
junkawhat does this mean exactly?19:33
badgerback soon gotta power off19:33
zykotick9junka: BIG problem19:33
doomwolfya i mean like it has no way to change easily, kinda easy you gotta log in as root and var/lib/usersystemaccounts/user and at an Icon=path/image19:33
ollie-doomwolf ive just done this and found this answer helpful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47186/is-there-a-way-to-change-user-picture-in-xubuntu-and-actually-display-it-on-log19:33
doomwolfi was on that for like hours lol19:34
ollie-doomwolf, do you have gimp or software alike?19:34
lordcrusader_how do i remove lamp-server completely and install back with complete pack for development version .. ?19:34
hs366could you please recommend me a rar password cracker software ? i19:34
Picihs366: Thats not really something that falls into the scope of support for this channel.19:35
reisiohs366: you can find them online easily enough19:35
zykotick9Pici: s/really// ;)19:35
ollie-doomwolf, create a new image the size of 96x72. Add the image you want to it, then save in your home dir as "face.png"19:35
hs366Pici, reisio  ok , Thx :)19:35
lordcrusader_hs366 there are software which all uses brute force attack19:35
reisio'cause Ubuntu users don't forget their archive passwords?19:35
doomwolfthats easier19:36
Danatodid any of you guys ever set up windows xp network on virtualbox?19:36
reisioDanato: sure19:36
doomwolfI mean I already changed it19:36
ollie-doomwolf, i mean ".face.png"19:36
hs366lordcrusader_, thx19:36
doomwolfthanks ollie19:36
lordcrusader_Danato i tried it working19:36
doomwolfi opened terminal and logged in thunar as root19:36
lordcrusader_hs366 welcome19:36
ollie-doomwolf: if you need to change it, you can edit the picture, but i will look for an application that does it for you19:36
Danatoreisio: lordcrusader_:  what settings did you use? Im using wireless and im trying to connect my windows xp to it19:37
reisioDanato: the default setting will share the connection the host OS uses19:37
[Gentoo]Danato: default should work19:37
doomwolfollie this is wat i did19:37
doomwolfEdit /var/lib/AccountsService/users/yourusername and add the line:19:37
lordcrusader_Danato : you like to use bridge connection am i right?19:37
doomwolfit works on reboot19:38
doomwolfautp resize too19:38
Danatolordcrusader_: yeah but anything would be jst fine, even on NAT im not being able to put it online, i guess i have to do something on windows xp first19:38
ollie-great :D19:39
[Gentoo]Danato: is it seeing the network adapter in XP?19:39
lordcrusader_select bridge and select the interface to wlan0// it works fine for me19:39
[Gentoo]some drivers like the intel e1000 need downloading manually on ZP19:39
lordcrusader_*Danato select bridge and select the interface to wlan0// it works fine for me19:40
doomwolflots of times my pci is eth0 and wireless is eth119:40
Danato[Gentoo]: all there is on the bottom right corner of xp is the clock and a VB icon19:40
lordcrusader_how do i remove lamp-server completely and install back with complete pack for development version .. ?19:40
[Gentoo]Danato: in virtualbox choose the generic network NIC19:40
[Gentoo]it should work out the box19:40
[Gentoo]i know for the intel virtual NICs you need to download the driver on XP19:41
nicksloanI'm on ubuntu 12.04. It seems that the service command works for both sysvinit scripts and upstart jobs. Is there a way to make it pick one or the other when both exist for a particular name?19:41
jhutchins_wklordcrusader_: The intel e1000 is one of the most standard interfaces available and has been in the kernel for years.19:41
Picilordcrusader_: Can you rephrase what "install back with complete pack for development version" means?19:41
Danato[Gentoo]: NIC? i ddnt see that one19:41
jhutchins_wknicksloan: It shouldn't matter.19:41
[Gentoo]jhutchins_wk: i was on about windows xp19:42
geniinicksloan: If two exist, it will prefer the upstart one.19:42
[Gentoo]Danato: in virtual machine settings under network where you see all the mac address etc you can choose a NIC19:42
[Gentoo]intel, para, etc19:42
Danatolordcrusader_: did it automatically connect on yours after setting it up on virtualbox or did you do something else?19:42
jhutchins_wk[Gentoo]: Oh, well, who can tell with that.19:42
lordcrusader_Dananto .. i does not done anything it works as it..19:43
lordcrusader_Pici i used tasksel to install lamp-server .. but to work with .htaccess project .. i have enabled modrewrite.. so plan to go for reinstallaiton19:45
Danatolordcrusader_: hmm ok thanks19:45
wheatthinlordcrusader_, why not just enable the module?19:45
lordcrusader_wheatthin :  i enabled the mod-rewrite  module ..but it doesnot help19:46
wheatthinis there an error?19:46
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lordcrusader_wheatthin no error19:48
wheatthinlordcrusader_, then how is reinstalling going to help?19:48
lordcrusader_wheatthin pls wait .. i had a error it says apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message19:49
wheatthinso set your fqdn19:49
lordcrusader_wheatthin .. while i restart apache2 i get such things19:49
lordcrusader_wheatthin fgdn means? sorry19:50
wheatthinFully Qualified Domain Name19:50
[Gentoo]if he knew what fqdn means and how to set it he would have set it :)19:50
wheatthinaka, DNS name19:50
wheatthinif he doesn't know what they are, then he has to do some reading to have a bit of a clue.19:51
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lordcrusader_wheatthin .. lets try19:52
virusplese help19:53
virushow to install video drivers19:53
[Gentoo]with what19:53
[Gentoo]what ones19:53
virusfor intel :)19:53
[Gentoo]you dont need to afaik19:53
[Gentoo]they are builtin the kernel19:53
virusor just how to install video drivers19:53
josefighow may I reinstall the ubuntu on different partition from the start menu from ubuntu server installation process ?19:54
wheatthinvirus, what video card do you have? And please don't use enter as punctuation19:54
wheatthinjosefig, by selecting a different partition during the installation.19:55
josefigwheatthin, i tried but it just showed me one partition not the other.19:55
wheatthinjosefig, You'll probably have to use gparted or parted19:56
wheatthinjosefig, what does   sudo parted -l19:56
wheatthin!paste | josefig19:57
ubottujosefig: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:57
wheatthinvirus, lspci may show you what video card you have installed19:58
viruswheatthin,  oki19:58
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wheatthinplease message me in here, virus20:00
NastyNazive been messing around setting a static internet ip on a local machine but now that its rebooted I can't SSH to it from the internet or via lan, what are my options?20:02
junkahello I get an error of "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"20:02
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junkawhat does this mean exactly?20:02
wheatthinNastyNaz, making sure on the physical machine that the interfaces are up20:02
wheatthinjunka, it could mean a whole mess of things depending on the fault20:03
NastyNazthey are lit but the route settings I added are wrong. It doesnt have any network connectivity and its a headless system20:03
zykotick9junka: when are you getting this error?  what program is it?  segfault = BIG problem (as i already said)20:03
wheatthinNastyNaz, sounds like you need to put a head on it and edit it physically.20:04
NastyNazwheatthin: i was afraid id have to do that. thanks20:04
junkawheatthin, zykotick9 I get it with rhythmbox when I try to stream a radio station and also when I uninstall a program with ubuntu software center. I am using a 64bit os, I dont know about rhythmbox but software center did not crush on a 32bit os20:04
junkarhythmbox and radio streaming was working fine after clean install20:05
junkaat least when I first installed it20:06
roosterngI just got in here, what was happening with your rythmbox?20:09
junkacrushes when I try to stream a radio station20:09
junkawhen I run it trough terminal I got an error "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"20:09
hitsujiTMOjunka: can you pastebin the full stack trace for us please? you may need to run rythm box from commandline to get it20:10
hitsujiTMOjunka: also, have you uninstalled components from the default ubuntu install?20:10
junkahitsujiTMO, yes20:11
djangonoobThe hardware button from my new notebook to enable/disable wifi is not working and fn+dim hotkeys shows the panel with the sun and it dims in the panel but the light intensity from the display does not change20:11
junkahitsujiTMO, more like applications nothing more20:11
junkalike abiword and gnumeric for libreoffice20:12
wheatthinvirus, lshw -c video20:12
molgrumcan someone help why i get no system sounds in unity but i get it in gnome shell? specifically the thud-sound in x-chat20:13
hitsujiTMOjunka: i'm just wondering if theres a common library that is a dependency for something you uninstalled but is incorrectly not listed as a dependency/recommend for rythmbox20:14
junkahow can i check? with synaptic hitsujiTMO ?20:14
hitsujiTMOjunka: do you know exactly what you uninstalled?20:14
junkai think20:15
hitsujiTMOjunka: actually, first can you pastebin: dpkg --get-selections20:15
junkagnome-mplayer,audacious,abiword,gnumeric,sylfeed on lubuntu. on xubuntu only abiword and gnumeric20:16
junkathe list is too big20:17
junkait does not scroll up20:17
junkai am using lxterminal20:17
hitsujiTMOjunka: pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep soup20:18
junkahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6439275/ hitsujiTMO20:19
molgrumi think i have narrowed down my problem, in System -> Sound -> Programs i only see firefox, not x-chat20:19
hitsujiTMOjunka: well libsoup is installed so it's not that it is missing20:20
zykotick9junka: as a test, DON'T AGREE TO IT!, if you run "sudo apt-get autoremove" in a terminal right now, does it want to remove most of your system?20:22
junkano I have removed them :P20:22
junkawith synaptic20:22
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junkathis error I get it with all ubuntu,xubuntu,lubuntu but only on saucy20:23
hitsujiTMOjunka: do you have any extra rythmbox plugins installed btw?20:23
junkano nothing. default installation20:24
Guest25803hello. i have a lot of pc games (on cd) is there anyway to install them on ubuntu 12.04?20:24
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reisioGuest25803: which games?20:25
Guest25803games like microsoft train simulator20:25
reisioGuest25803: http://www.google.com/search?q=world%20of%20warcraft%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org20:25
Anita01Hi everyone, I have problem with my wireless on HP Pavilion 15 e008sv. Ubuntu 12.04.3 64 bit is running now. I'm connected through ethernet cable. Can anyone help me make my wireless work? :(20:25
DJones!wine | Guest2580320:25
ubottuGuest25803: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu20:25
shadytvmolgrum, http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3815 does this help any?20:27
artemhey hey )20:28
Anita01hello anyone? :(20:28
g0thafter watching a movie and opening another (like an hour later) I don't hear anything anymore20:28
artemAnita01: yep20:28
hitsujiTMO!patience | Anita0120:28
ubottuAnita01: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/20:28
g0thin pavucontrol everything seems fine (I see the volume bar moving)20:28
Anita01artem, I have problem with my wireless on HP Pavilion 15 e008sv. Ubuntu 12.04.3 64 bit is running now. I'm connected through ethernet cable. Can anyone help me make my wireless work? :(20:28
junkahitsujiTMO, is my problem this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/80630620:28
g0thbut I don't hear anything. I didn't change any settings, how can I debug this?20:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 806306 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_hash_table_lookup_node()" [High,Incomplete]20:28
artemAnita01: try your terminal ifconfig wlan020:29
hitsujiTMOjunka: that has nothing to do with your problem20:29
Anita01artem, thank god :)20:29
g0thI use the latest ubuntu version20:30
g0thwith pulseaudio20:30
g0thbut I get the same issue with alsa20:30
Anita01artem, wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found20:30
hitsujiTMOjunka: can you try rythmbox from a live cd and see if the problem occurs. also try disabling as many plugins as possible to rule out an issue with the plugins20:30
artemAnita01: is your wifi reciever is on?20:31
Anita01artem, yes am connected through cable.20:31
Anita01artem, also my mobile device is connected, but no wireless networks are shown on ubuntu
shadytvAnita01 what he means is you hardware switch for your wireless on?20:32
awozniakskype &20:32
hitsujiTMOg0th: do you hear anything when you type the following in the terminal: speaker-test -c 220:32
Anita01shadytv: yes!20:32
g0thhitsujiTMO: no20:32
shadytvAnita01, can you do an ifconfig and list what interfaces you have?20:33
Anita01shadytv: yes 1 sec please.20:33
Anita01shadytv: where to paste all this text ??20:33
junkahitsujiTMO, yeaaah :D it is streaming after I disabled all plugins20:33
ollie-g0th might this help? http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/20:34
junkaNow i cant remember the default ones -_-20:34
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shadytvAnita01, dont paste it anywhere20:34
Anita01shadytv: I have eth0 and lo.20:35
hitsujiTMOjunka: :P       try them one at a time till you figure out which one was causing the crash at least20:35
shadytvAnita01, tell me you should have eth0, lo and do you have anything else20:35
Anita01shadytv: no only this 2.20:35
ZiberIs there a way to use xmonad without tiling?20:35
spideep #ubuntu-es20:35
shadytvAnita01, has it worked before?  did you just install the OS20:36
hitsujiTMOg0th: can you install alsa-utils: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils                     then run alsamixer and ensure nothing is muted and try your audio again20:36
Anita01shadytv: I just installed it, received all updates and that's it.20:36
Anita01shadytv: I cannot see any networks.20:36
g0thhitsujiTMO: I already checked alsamuxer, nothing is muted20:36
g0thhitsujiTMO: also I worked before and I didn't change anything, hmm, why would it be muted?20:37
hitsujiTMOg0th: can you pastebin the output of: lspci20:37
junkathanks hitsujiTMO :D20:37
hitsujiTMOjunka: np.20:37
molgrumanyone have any idea why i have no system sounds in unity but i do in gnome shell?20:37
molgrumi have checked the settings in System -> Sound20:38
Anita01shadytv: ? :/20:38
david38400I have just installed cheese for my logitech webcam. I turned it on, it worked and I put it in full screen and can't do anything. It seems blocked, I can't make it smaller or use any applications. I have to turn off my computer to get rid of it. Any suggestions please.20:38
shadytvAnita01, make sure the wifi is on on the computer20:38
CorvetteHey guys has anyone used NDISWrapper on Ubuntu and does anyone know which Windows wireless drivers you should use with it?20:38
g0thhitsujiTMO: there are 3 audio devices, my main sound card, an usb micro (no output) and my graphic cards which somehow can pass it on to my monitor which has some builtin boxes (very very bad quality and only working when I turn my amplifier off)20:38
nicksloandoes ubuntu or debian encourage maintainers of packages to run services automatically upon installation? I really don't like that behavior.20:38
Anita01shadytv: it is..20:39
shadytvAnita01, otherwise you'll have to istall drivers20:39
g0thhitsujiTMO: my problem is that I don't hear anything if I set the playback/output to my main sound card20:39
hitsujiTMOg0th: does alsamixer refer to the correct device?20:39
zykotick9nicksloan: it's certainly the default in debian (ubuntu too i'd guess)20:39
Anita01shadytv: help me how please.20:39
g0thI use pulse and pavcontrol20:39
g0thhitsujiTMO: how do I check that?20:39
shadytvAnita01, from your manufacturers website20:39
g0ththe chip which is shown is the correct one I think20:39
hitsujiTMOg0th: run alsamiser. what itens show up in the top left corner20:40
Anita01shadytv: my drivers are not listed for ubuntu.20:40
cortexmani see some instructions for using apt-get to install hbase on ubuntu but i don't see an hbase package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ - anyone know what's up with that?20:40
shadytvthey have a unix/linux option for a driver right?20:40
g0thI can choose cards with F620:40
hitsujiTMOg0th: what are the entries for card and chip?20:41
Anita01shadytv: no...20:41
g0that the moment my main soundcard20:41
adanoobHi all, need your help TIA: Have Nvidia drivers, I can login with Guest and get full Ubuntu GUI, but I login with my user and I get a blank screen!  help please20:41
shadytvAnita01, damn...20:41
Anita01shadytv: check for hp for hp pavilion 15 e008sv. and u will see....20:41
CorvetteHey guys has anyone used NDISWrapper on Ubuntu and does anyone know which Windows wireless drivers you should use with it? And for that matter, might as well ask this too: I'm trying to use NDISWrapper because Ubuntu does not connect to the WiFi at my university. Has anyone had this problem and fixed it some other way?20:41
Ben64Anita01: pastebin "lspci" and "lsusb"20:41
g0thhitsujiTMO: HDA Intel PCM, Chip: Realtek ALC89820:41
hitsujiTMOg0th: is the speakers turned on and properly connected?20:41
zykotick9adanoob: fron console (ctrl+alt+f1) log in as your user, then "ls -al" in your home directory, any files owned by root?20:41
david38400No help with cheese anyone?20:43
shadytvAnita01, hold on let me look around a bit20:43
jhutchins_wkdavid38400: Don't use it full screen.20:43
Anita01Ben64, http://pastebin.com/yzkLEE1720:43
Anita01shadytv: ok20:43
Ben64Anita01: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216202620:44
Anita01Ben64: http://pastebin.com/18iXqEgA20:45
david38400jhutchins_wk, Does full screen give lots of problems then. How can I put it back to minimise any ideas?20:45
WobbleHeadDollHas anyone been able to get their iPhone 5 with iOS 7.0.4 to be recognized by Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 Bit?20:45
bekksWobbleHeadDoll: Sure, works fine as USB mass storage device.20:45
WobbleHeadDollDoes that allow me to sync music to it via Rythmbox?20:46
Anita01Ben64: i've tried that post ending with errors 2 etc.20:46
g0thitsujiTMO: any ideas?20:46
zykotick9david38400: you might be able to log into console (ctrl+alt+f1) then run "killall cheese"20:46
zykotick9david38400: fyi, alt+f7 (or alt+f8) to get back to GUI20:47
hitsujiTMOg0th: i'm quite curious as to why a realtek id is coming up for an intel sound device. can you pastebin the output of: lshw -C communication20:47
Anita01Ben64: any else ideas?20:48
Anita01Ben64: any other ideas? excuse me.20:48
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adanoobzykotick9: erm... nevermind, seems to be solved... main monitor was disabled in Nvidia settings... long story of how I figured that out and sort of fixed...20:50
adanoobzykotick9: thanks anyway20:50
shadytvAnita01, can you do lspci -vvnn and paste it in a pastebin20:51
zykotick9adanoob: glad you fixed it!20:51
Anita01shadytv: yes, my pleasure.20:51
hitsujiTMOg0th: here's a thought. did you use headphones at all on the device before the issue occured?>20:52
g0thI tried both with and without headphones20:52
g0ththe realtek thingy is from intel hda sound stuff20:53
Anita01shadytv: http://pastebin.com/NEGXzFq620:53
hitsujiTMOg0th: i have noticed that with intel hda audio and jack detection that if headphones were connected to the front panel/laptop headphone jeck, and the machine is shutdown while its still connected. If the headphones are unplugged before the device is booted up again, the audio is still passed to the headphone jack20:55
stomanataHi, i have problems with my flash drive. it give me [523115.788741]  sdb: unknown partition table (i can post all about usb flash from dmesg). On win7 it work....20:55
stomanataI try with update-usbids, but no luck20:55
wilee-nileestomanata, What partition and table type?20:56
g0thhitsujiTMO: so I remove the jack, reboot and try again?20:57
stomanatahow to check about this wilee-nilee ?20:57
jhutchins_wkDo you have ntfs-3g installed?20:57
wilee-nileestomanata, I would think you know the partition type, is this not the case, and why?20:57
hitsujiTMOg0th.is it a laptop or desktop?20:57
shadytvAnita01, hmm realtek :/20:58
Anita01shadytv: yeap! what shall I do ?20:58
shadytvAnita01, honestly im having problems with realtek drivers myself :(20:58
hitsujiTMOstomanata: stomanata: can you dd if=/dev/sda of=~/moo bs=512 count=120:58
stomanataYes. i have ntfs-3g20:58
g0thhitsujiTMO: I always get this sound problems, is there any useable usb sound card for linux?20:58
g0ththat supports 5.120:59
g0thpreferably with a digital/optical connection20:59
Anita01shadytv: damn.. I found a forum like Ben64 told me but it doesn't work even on make or sudo make install.20:59
Anita01shadytv: ending with errors of kernel 3.8.0-3320:59
g0thhitsujiTMO: the problem is I can't replace my sound card / no space20:59
hitsujiTMOstomanata: stomanata: can you dd if=/dev/sdb of=~/moo bs=512 count=1                sorry. and can you post that file ~/moo in dropbox or somewhere20:59
shadytvAnita01, we might have to go the more dangerous route and do it through Ndiswrapper20:59
g0thI will try it on windows first20:59
stomanata1+0 records in   +0 records out  +0 records out21:00
g0thif it works there it is definitely a linux issue otherwise I guess my soundcard is broken :(21:00
g0thhitsujiTMO: anything else I should check?21:00
g0thbefore I reboot21:00
Anita01shadytv: why it's dangerous?21:00
g0thsince no answer I assume not21:01
hitsujiTMOg0th: thats all i can think of tbh. conecting in and out the headphones and rebooting to ensure that headphone jack is not activated21:01
shadytvAnita01, you might crash the system it's give or take if it'll work.21:01
shadytvAnita01, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper21:01
XeethraxHello. I am getting "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address" when i run dhclient on a wired connection. Been googling for the better part of the day without finding any stories relating quite to mine. Ubuntu 10.04 with a Realtek RTL-8169 card (according to lspci). It's a machine setup from a clone image, so there might be some configuration I don't know about messing things up..21:01
stomanatamoment. it is for sda :)21:02
hitsujiTMOstomanata: 2 things. its a binary file so pastebin aint gonna work. and did you see the second one?21:02
Anita01shadytv: crash the system means?21:02
stomanataDid this affect my hard drive?!?!21:02
stomanataYes. i perform second command :)21:03
shadytvAnita01, i can cause issues in the kernel and you wont be able to boot the system21:03
hitsujiTMOstomanata: no it wont effect the hdd.21:04
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stomanataok. Thanks.21:04
Anita01shadytv: yes but I can reformat it again through bootable usb right?21:04
zykotick9Xeethrax: are you aware 10.04 is EOL (on desktop)?  "/msg ubottu eol" for details on that...21:04
shadytvAnita01, yes you can...21:05
shadytvAnita01, something a little curious though can you run sudo in front of lspci command some information is missing21:05
Anita01shadytv: thanks for your time :)))21:05
Anita01shadytv: sudo lspci ?21:06
shadytvyes you need to run it as root21:06
Xeethraxzykotick9: This is a cloned image running the same software on a bunch of machines. Supposedly tested with this hardware.. I'm not going to claim they were completely truthful about that though. Just trying to set up a network of these machines at my home but the nic is giving me a hard time.21:07
zykotick9Xeethrax: using 10.04 is sillyness...21:07
Anita01shadytv: http://pastebin.com/7mP2ShEY21:07
hitsujiTMOstomanata: is there 2 partitions on the drive?21:08
shadytvAnita01, run this sorry sudo lspci -vvnn | grep Network21:08
g0thmy soundcard seems to be broken :(21:08
g0thwhat usb soundcard should I use with linux?21:09
g0thideally one with digital connection/5.121:09
stomanatano. on win7 i perform quick format21:09
Xeethraxzykotick9: I'll agree to that when there are hardware upgrades involved21:09
Anita01shadytv: 07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8179] (rev 01)21:10
Anita01shadytv: there's anything else you can help me? :/21:11
Xeethraxzykotick9: but you should realise that in this case, upgrading takes time and money and is not done lightly. We're talking about creating a new stable environment for the app to run, and recloning that on thousands of computers spread across a big geographical area. So the benefits of upgrading must be significant, or a neccessity21:13
g0thhitsujiTMO: still here?21:13
zykotick9Xeethrax: see, i view security as "a neccessity", i guess you don't...21:14
g0thhitsujiTMO: any suggestions what soundcard I should buy that works?21:14
guntbertzykotick9: +121:14
shadytvAnita01, sadly im not to sure why your drivers aren't working you could try using an LTS release, they're older but much more stable, you could also try askubuntu or the ubuntu forums those guys helped me out a lot when i was just starting out.21:14
Danatohi ubu_21:14
ubu_hab ne frage21:14
Xeethraxzykotick9: you seem to like making statements when you don't really know anything about the situation21:14
Pici!de | ubu_21:15
ubottuubu_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!21:15
ubu_its german?21:15
zykotick9Xeethrax: best of luck (not include my nick further please)21:15
Xeethraxzykotick9: the machines are not exposed to the internet, and "hacking" them wouldn't do much good as they are mostly just displaying information from a server21:15
Anita01shadytv: am on lts ubuntu.21:15
Xeethraxzykotick9: wait, what, are you pretending that you were actually going to help with anything at some point?21:16
Anita01shadytv: maybe I should try 32 bit instead of 64 bit ??21:16
molgrumplease, why do i get sound from all applications in both gnome shell and unity except for system sounds in unity? running 13.0421:16
shadytvAnita01, no LTS is version 10.04 or 12.04 right now.21:16
shadytvAnita01, LTS stands for "Long Term Support" you are more than likely on 13.1021:17
g0thwhat good usb soundcard works with linux?21:19
g0ththe price is not a big issue21:19
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection21:20
jhutchins_wkg0th: SoundBlaster or something that emulates one.21:20
hitsujiTMOstomanata: the partititon is marked as type: FE. So in windows terms its a Disk Administration hidden partition. and linux terms its an old LANstep/Linux LVM. Either looks to be a mistake21:20
g0thit should be a usb card21:20
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g0thI don't think I hvae space for an internal card21:20
jhutchins_wkg0th: I think you should do some more research on what you already have though.21:20
g0thjhutchins_wk: well it no longer works on windows21:20
g0thso my guess is the card is broken21:20
g0thif it is not21:20
g0thyou/I don't know how to fix it21:21
g0thso I might as well buy a new one21:21
ZiberI've asked a few days ago in here for a way to individually control workspace switching on multiple monitors (one being a laptop, the other being an external monitor). Any suggestions?21:21
hitsujiTMO]g0th: i'm not up on sound cards i'm afraid. I just stick to the motherboard built in cards usually.21:21
g0thwhat built in cards work?21:21
g0thagain the price is not really the issue21:21
g0thI would pay 200$ if I knew for sure I got a really good solution that works without any issues21:22
g0th(or even more)21:22
hitsujiTMOg0th all my devices are intel hda, and are problematic with pulse audio. that's all i can tell you21:22
guntbert!enter | g0th21:22
ubottug0th: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:22
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g0thhitsujiTMO: yeah I know they have issues :(21:23
g0thwhat do you guys in here use as soundcards?21:24
g0thor sound doesn't work for you? ^^21:24
notedibleI recently moved and resized an ext4 partition using the latest gparted live CD.. browsing around the drive noticed that all the folders are intact, but more than half the files are gone and are instead in the lost+found directory... anything I can do?21:24
notediblealso, if e2fsck returns no errors, can I trust that the issue was with resizing/moving and not the drive itself?21:24
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ZiberDoes Compiz have a separate channel for support?21:25
jhutchins_wkg0th: Again, CreativeLabs SoundBlasters are pretty much universally supported.21:25
jhutchins_wknotedible: When messing with partitions, allways back up the contents.21:26
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FlaptopHello guys, having some issues with getting ubuntu 12.04 64bit running: After getting the installer to run by adding the nomodeset option and a successfull installation. Im having the same problem with just getting a black screen after the splash screen. The nomodeset option is not helping at this point. Any suggestions?21:28
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notediblejhutchins_wk: i have backups but that's not the issue21:29
notedibleit's just a pain because they are all over the place.. this was a central backup repository.. anyway, can I trust the drive?21:30
g0thjhutchins_wk: https://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetailsDruck1.aspx?Artikel=28497721:30
g0thwhat about this?21:30
* lasantha test21:32
jhutchins_wknotedible: Do you have smartmontools installed?21:33
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jhutchins_wkg0th: I think that wants me to be logged in - and I definitely don't speak Czek.21:34
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artem1Can you name good articles to setup ubuntu as home network router?21:34
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jhutchins_wkg0th: I've had good luck with Asus and Megabit motherboard chipsets.21:35
FlaptopI suppose my problem is video card related or something. Should I try and get the ubuntu to boot in a terminal and somehow install nvidia proprietary drivers from there?21:35
jhutchins_wkartem1: Yes,21:35
jhutchins_wkartem1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/21:35
g0thjhattara: Creative Sound Blaster Omni Surround 5.1, USB 2.021:36
jhutchins_wkartem1: It was originally written for RedHat, but everything pretty much applies (and I think it's been updated to include Debian/Ubuntu).21:36
artem1jhutchins_wk: thx =)21:36
jhutchins_wkg0th: You can search for articles about that card and Linux.21:36
lesshasteI plugged in my android tablet into my usb port.. dmesg seems to show it up21:37
lesshastebut how do I actually transfer files to it?21:37
artem1jhutchins_wk: main reason is to set up QoS to separate skype calls and other types of traffic21:37
jhutchins_wklesshaste: It _should_ automount as a storage device.  Mine do.21:37
jhutchins_wkartem1: I'm not sure that goes into QoS.21:38
k1l_lesshaste: which ubuntu is that exactly?21:38
g0thjhutchins_wk: trying to21:39
lesshastek1l_, 13.04.. it's possible it would just show up in a graphical file system browser21:39
lesshastejhutchins_wk, it might have done.. how do I tell?21:39
lesshastejhutchins_wk, dmesg looks sort of promising21:39
allstarsnorks2hi guys. just went from Zorin OS 7 to Ubuntu 13.1021:39
k1l_lesshaste: make sure the android tablet got activated the option to make itself mountable21:40
lesshastejhutchins_wk, and on the tablet it  says "Internal storatge connected"21:40
reisioallstarsnorks2: neat21:40
lesshastek1l_, how do you do that?21:40
kostkonallstarsnorks2, hi21:40
allstarsnorks2how do i install gksu in Ubuntu 13.10? seems that relinux wants me to install it.21:40
g0thjhutchins_wk: I didn't find _anything_ useful on usb soundcard for linux21:40
g0thjhutchins_wk: my guess is it probably works but only with something like a 50% chance21:41
reisioa soundcard is a soundcard to GNU/Linux21:41
jhutchins_wklesshaste: dmesg will show the events, which may or may not include mounting.  If not, you need to set your system to automatically mount connected volumes, but you should see it in the file manager.  It does depened on which desktop/file manager you use.21:41
zykotick9allstarsnorks2: install gksu...21:41
g0threisio: what?21:41
reisiog0th: hi21:41
allstarsnorks2reisio: yep. Zorin OS 7 gave me too many problems. especially sound.21:41
k1l_lesshaste: make sure gvfs is installed on ubuntu21:41
reisioallstarsnorks2: weird21:41
lesshastejhutchins_wk, http://pastebin.com/3L9eypAy /.. it's sort of promising21:42
allstarsnorks2zykotick9: but how? sudo apt-get (?)21:42
kostkonallstarsnorks2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/290810/how-to-add-gksudo-or-what-to-use-instead-in-ubuntu-13-0421:42
jhutchins_wkg0th: Seriously?  http://bit.ly/IdbwTr21:42
lesshastek1l_, gvfs is already the newest version.21:42
zykotick9allstarsnorks2: the package is call gksu, use whatever you use to installs software.  but yes, "sudo apt-get install gksu" should work.21:43
k1l_lesshaste: then it should get mounted ootb. which android is running on that tablet?21:43
allstarsnorks2kostkon: thank you. that will be added in my browser's bookmarks.21:43
lesshastek1l_, jelly bean21:43
k1l_oh, jellybean is no mtp.21:43
lesshastek1l_, http://pastebin.com/3L9eypAy .. does that say it is mounted?21:43
kostkonallstarsnorks2, np21:43
allstarsnorks2zykotick9: the thing is it says GKSU not found or something like that21:43
lesshastek1l_, isn't that the latest version ?21:43
zykotick9!info gksu21:44
ubottugksu (source: gksu): graphical frontend to su. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-6ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 26 kB, installed size 172 kB21:44
zykotick9allstarsnorks2: see above.  it's lowercase "gksu"21:44
g0thjhutchins_wk: did you check the google search result? there is nothing useful there...21:44
k1l_lesshaste: ah yes, sorry multitasking atm :/21:44
g0thI did check the first link21:44
allstarsnorks2i'll try it later. mum is telling me to go to bed. haha21:44
jhutchins_wklesshaste: Interesting.  sudo mount and see if sg2 is mounted anywhere.21:45
k1l_lesshaste: make sure its mtp enabled. then ubuntu (talking about clean ubuntu 13.04 or newer with nautilus as file explorer) should mount that ootb21:45
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g0thjhutchins_wk: the first link is about some professional stuff which I don't need and which is probably hard to get working21:45
g0thjhutchins_wk: second link -> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_matrix21:45
g0thI don't get the cryptic comments about usb 2 cards21:46
reisioallstarsnorks2: what does she know, out having kids accidentally, newb!21:46
g0thhow does this tell me what usb2 solutions work?21:46
g0thit doesn't21:46
g0ththird link: page not found21:46
allstarsnorks2reisio: mind you, it's 5:45am21:46
g0thfourth link: not available21:46
reisiog0th: you looking to buy something?21:46
reisioallstarsnorks2: oh, nice mom :)21:46
g0thyes an usb soundcard for linux21:46
lesshastejhutchins_wk, http://pastebin.com/yCAKbLKJ21:46
k1l_lesshaste: please nopaste a "mount" in terminal21:46
reisiog0th: #hardware would know one21:47
lesshastek1l_, mtp-detect gives lots of lovely output for it21:47
lesshastek1l, http://pastebin.com/yCAKbLKJ21:47
allstarsnorks2haha yea21:47
allstarsnorks2Well, that will leave me off to start development on Ubuntu based distro21:48
david38400I can't get gucview working for my web cam. It always says ....  Guvcview error:21:48
david38400Unable to start with minimum setup21:48
david38400Any help please21:48
nosmelcHow would a GeForce 8400 GS PCI-E video card work with Ubuntu 13.10?21:49
k1l_lesshaste: IMHO should that be mounted21:49
lesshastek1l_, ok.. where? :)21:49
notediblejhutchins_wk: yes, i do have it installed21:50
k1l_lesshaste: doesnt it show up in nautilus on the sidebar in the "devices" group?21:50
lesshastek1l_, let me try to run nautilus21:50
dalkeehoni asked a few days ago a fix to the sound issue for 13.10, now i found miself a good fix for it so if anyone wants to know i'll gladly tell you, besides thansk for the help you gaved me a few days ago21:50
lesshastek1l_, what's the right way to do this from unity?21:50
k1l_lesshaste: again: what ubuntu are you running exactly?21:51
lesshastek1l_, oh.. there it is :)21:51
k1l_lesshaste: i got a fresh 13.10 here with unity and when connecting some androids nautilus pops up with the mountpoint21:51
lesshastek1l_, it all works perfectly :)21:52
lesshastek1l_, I just wasn't using nautiful21:52
lesshastek1l_, so where is it from the command line?21:52
lesshasteI was expecting mount to tell me21:52
k1l_that was what i was asking before :)21:52
k1l_no, it gets mounted with gvfs with mtp. gvfs beeing gnome filesystem mounting stuff. that works with nautilus21:53
lesshasteoh so there is no way to access the mount point from the command line?21:53
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g0thrbrooks: they have less clues than me it seems21:54
lesshastethanks in any case21:54
zykotick9k1l_: that's gnome Virtual file system ;)21:54
k1l_lesshaste: /run/user/myusername/gvfs/21:55
k1l_zykotick9: thanks :)21:55
nosmelcHow would a GeForce 8400 GS PCI-E video card work with Ubuntu 13.10?21:56
david38400I'm having newly installed webcam problems can anyone help please?21:56
reisiog0th: lies!21:57
wilee-nileedavid38400, State the hardware IE cam and what you have done...details basically to the channel.21:57
jhutchins_wknotedible: Ok, watch the syslog and dmesg for messages from smart.  If you start to see them frequently it's time to buy new hardware.21:57
notediblejhutchins_wk: k, thanks21:58
infamyHi. I'm trying to hook up my laptop via HDMI to my flatscreen to be able to display Netflix on the TV. When I hook up the HDMI cable, it says No Input still, as if nothing was plugged up at all. It works in Windows, so I'm assuming I don't have something set correctly. Is there anyone available that could please assist?21:58
david38400wilee-nilee, OK, sorry. I have a webcam Logitech C170. Tried cheese and I put it in full screen mode and couldn't use it or the computer. Tried Guvcview but it says won't work with minimum controls??????21:59
g0threisio: how can an "impression" be a lie?21:59
wilee-nileedavid38400, Working otherwise without fullscreen?21:59
zykotick9wilee-nilee: fyi, i believe prior to making it fullscreen, that david38400's webcam was working21:59
wilee-nileezykotick9, Heh, seems that way thanks. ;)22:00
reisiog0th: if it's not honest :) but no matter22:01
david38400wilee-nilee, The first time I tried it yes. Then I clicked on full screen and can't minimise it or use it22:02
wilee-nileedavid38400, Have you rinsed and repeated?22:02
david38400zykotick9, yes you are right. Once I put it to fullscreen that was the problem22:02
david38400wilee-nilee, Sorry I'm fairly new and don't understand what you mean?22:03
wilee-nileedavid38400, Have you tried again just to see if it works in general, the full screen may be the only problem, is this a full screen from clicking the windows buttons or the f11 or f12 I forget fullscreen?22:04
reisiog0th: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main22:04
manorHow do I get Ubuntu to stop cycling the hard disk 10x per minute?22:05
jhutchins_wkg0th: On the first page, for me at least, is a discussion that leads to this: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main22:05
david38400wilee-nilee, Yes I have tried and it goes straight to full screen. As I can't get rid of it I have to shut down the computer. I clicked on the window button not f11 or f1222:05
jhutchins_wkg0th: All of the cards listed there should be plug-and-play on any Linux that uses Alsa.22:05
reisiomanor: laptop?22:05
reisiosaam: hi22:05
jhutchins_wkg0th: That's not a complete list, that's just ones that the Alsa project knows for sure work.22:06
david38400wilee-nilee, I tried guvcview but it says won't work with minimum controls so I don't even know what it means.22:06
manorreisio, yes. It goes nuts, but only on battery power.22:06
saamdoes anyone know hidden web?22:06
wilee-nileedavid38400, In general my approach is going through the possibilities, the variables, what screen is going full screen automatically, and have you tried opening it without the camera plugged in and resized it?22:07
jhutchins_wkg0th: There are two specific cards in this discussion: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=1071922:07
reisiosaam: we're pals22:08
abaddonI'm having a problem creating a substatution script where it will take in input and write it out to a file using a set of substatution rules. I set letters as other letters, ie- A=Z, etc but when I echo it out it wont substatute22:08
saamwhat does it mean?22:08
david38400wilee-nilee, Thanks for your help and patience. When I turn on cheese the whole screen is used up on my computer automatically. I haven't tried with the camera disconnected. I could do so..... I might disappear from the chat......22:09
saami don't speak very dell22:09
k1l_!it | saam22:09
ubottusaam: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)22:09
wilee-nileedavid38400, Would not that seem to be the logical approach?22:09
david38400wilee-nilee, I agree. I unplugged the cam and tried what you said, but it still came on in full screen and I can't do anything22:10
jhutchins_wkSeems to me like cheeze was always a small window.  Maybe it depends on screen-vs-camera resolution.22:10
wilee-nileedavid38400, The buttons do not respond?22:10
david38400wilee-nilee, Nothing responds22:11
david38400Maybe I should uninstall22:11
david38400wilee-nilee, How can I uninstall?22:11
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wilee-nileedavid38400, I don't see it in ~/.config which if removed will rebuild itself, You can sudo apt-get purge cheese && sudo apt-get install cheese if we can't find the config.22:13
david38400wilee-nilee, will try now.22:14
abaddonAnyone got an idea?22:15
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david38400wilee-nilee, I did what you said I suppose I should try it again.....22:15
david38400Without the cam plugged in it couldn't find the device22:16
g0thjhutchins_wk: the alsa list is about internal soundcards mostly, I didn't find the mentioned soundblaster omni there22:17
david38400wilee-nilee, No luck I plugged in the cam and it insists on no device found22:17
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wilee-nileedavid38400, cheese here the gui goes back and forth with the windows buttons with no problem here, using a logitec c-270 nothing extra installed, I have to wonder if your hardware in genarl or the extra installed stuff is a problem.22:17
JuslintekHey guys any of you know any good data scraping from websites software?22:17
reisioJuslintek: wget, curl22:18
david38400wilee-nilee, Its a Logitech C170 webcam22:18
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manorreisio, you still there?22:18
reisiomanor: hi22:18
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wilee-nileedavid38400, Yes I know, but you get my point right?22:18
david38400wilee-nilee, Sorry I'm not used to Ubuntu 12.04 so I don't understand what you say.22:19
david38400How can I uninstall and start again. Is that easy22:19
wilee-nileedavid38400, In a terminal run sudo apt-get purge cheese && sudo apt-get install cheese22:20
manorDid you have any ideas on correcting hard disk power management? I have spindown disabled in settings, so I'm missing something or there's a bug.22:20
reisiomanor: internal hard disks?22:21
david38400wilee-nilee, I did that earlier and I still have the same problem. If I just want to delete do I run ...22:21
david38400sudo apt-get get purge cheese? Will that delete it22:21
wilee-nileedavid38400, I would not here that some of what I said is not ubuntu only in asking if the hardware is up to the task or extra stuff installed to try and get it working, that applies in general to using any OS.22:21
david38400I want to properly remove everything22:21
FormerlyUbnoobtuCan someone direct me to resources all security related?22:22
manorYeah, 2.5" Sammy 320GB SATA 1.5Gbps22:22
david38400wilee-nilee, sorry can't answer that. I will have to get my technician in then if there is no solution. I am surprised nobody here can help me.22:22
wilee-nileedavid38400, purge removes the app and the config install reinstall sit.22:22
elspuddyhi, how do i make ubuntu dial in to a bbs ?22:23
abaddondavid38400: What's the prob?22:23
david38400wilee-nilee, So I just run.... sudo apt-get purge cheese?22:23
david38400abaddon, Hi there. I installed cheese for my webcam, put it on full screen and cant minimise.22:23
wilee-nileedavid38400, Copy and paste the whole command and then run it and when done check cheese again.22:24
abaddondavid38400: Have you tried F11?22:24
david38400wilee-nilee, I did that earlier and I still have the same problem..... I can try again if you think it will help.22:24
wilee-nileeabaddon, Please don't just interrupt.22:24
abaddondavid38400: I mean the key22:24
david38400abaddon, when do I F11?22:24
wilee-nileedavid38400, With purge?22:24
david38400once I have the webcam in full screen?22:24
bekksdavid38400: when cheese is started fullscreen.22:24
david38400ok guys will try, thanks22:25
wilee-nileedavid38400, Close cheese, run the whole command the open cheese.22:25
abaddonwilee-nilee: david38400 Yes, if it's in full screen have you tried pressing F11 to exit full screen? Also, wilee-nilee sorry.22:25
wilee-nileeabaddon, You have not followed the whole conversation, the user is a bit confused, and you are not helping this is all. ;)22:26
jhutchins_wkdavid38400: Which release are you on, what desktop?22:26
david38400wilee-nilee, I cant use it now, it can't find the device. I will try and run the command you mentionned to uninstall and install again22:26
david38400jhutchins_wk, Ubuntu12.0422:26
abaddonwilee-nilee: I thought the convo ended so I was trying to hlp ou. XD Sorry for the confusion david38400.22:27
wilee-nileedavid38400, I give up this is a circular help with people now just interuppting a waste of my time, good luck.22:27
jhutchins_wkwilee-nilee: Will purge remove the user-specific config files in the home directory?22:27
bekksjhutchins_wk: No.22:27
jhutchins_wkI didn't think so.22:28
abaddonWell david38400 since wilee-nilee has dumped you care to explain to me what's going on?22:28
david38400wilee-nilee, OK thanks in any case....... I have followed your info on the sudo apt and trying again.22:28
david38400abaddon, Wilee hasn't dumped me, he's tried to be very helpful, but I am getting inpatient and nervous with such a simple issue22:29
david38400I just don't understand why its so complicated to connect a simpel web cam22:29
david38400abaddon, Can you tell me how to just delete cheese in the proper way.22:29
wilee-nileeabaddon, I have stopped as idiots like you are interrupting.22:30
bekksdavid38400: sudp apt-get purge cheese22:30
david38400bekks, will see if it works. Thanks22:30
zykotick9david38400: depends on the specific hardware involved, it should be plug-in = working.22:30
abaddondavid38400: sudo apt-get purge cheese22:30
abaddonwilee-nilee: I understand you are getting frustrated but calling other people idiots doesn't help22:31
david38400Thanks guys I have now removed Cheese.  Can anyone suggest an app to run a webcam on Ubuntu 12.04 or isn't there one?22:31
jhutchins_wkdavid38400: Try this: gsettings reset-recursively org.gnome.Cheese:/apps/cheese22:31
Danatoreisio: are you there?22:31
abaddondavid38400: Is cheese the only web cam software you'll use or are you up for others?22:32
reisioDanato: yarp22:32
jhutchins_wkdavid38400: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam22:32
abaddondavid38400: I suggest guvcview22:32
david38400Guys I am open to use any app that will work......22:32
Danatoreisio: when installing windows xp on virtualbox, should i choose the option that the pc will connect through a network or directly to the internet?22:33
david38400abaddon, I tried guvcviewbut it wouldnt work either. It said it wouldn't connnect on minimum settings and I couldn't find out how to resolve that problem.22:33
jhutchins_wkdavid38400: That command I posted should reset cheeze to it's defaults - which should not be full-screen.22:33
david38400jhutchins_wk, Thanks for your help will try.22:33
abaddondavid38400: yikes....22:34
jhutchins_wkdavid38400: Here is the manual for Cheeze: https://help.gnome.org/users/cheese/2.91/cheese.html22:34
reisioDanato: doubt it matters, but through a network is fine22:34
david38400jhutchins_wk, Thanks for your help..... will give up for tonight.22:35
david38400abaddon, Thanks for your help too22:35
BlackDalekhow do I re-assign the media play/pause keys in system settings/keyboard/shortcuts back to default if it won't let me assign the play/pause key to to functions? (play AND pause)... what is the solution?22:36
david38400wilee-nilee, Thanks to you too.   I will have another look tomorrow22:36
david38400Good night all22:36
BlackDalek*to two22:36
abaddondavid38400: Good luk22:36
abaddondavid38400: Good luck*22:36
elspuddycan some one tell me how to make ubuntu dial a bbs ? :)22:36
Danatoreisio: yeah it worked this time, i reinstalled windows to check what did i do wrong at the beginning, but it was jst a VB configuration thing. thanks anyways22:37
BlackDalekis there any way to restore the play/pause media key to play AND pause in keyboard shortcuts? Or is this now impossible once unset?22:39
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reisioBlackDalek: I'm sure you could swing it22:39
FormerlyUbnoobtu! off topic22:39
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:40
FormerlyUbnoobtuits always the - i cant remember22:40
Roryelspuddy: Here is a guide to accessing BBS using telnet http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/howto.asp22:40
elspuddythank rory :)22:40
notadrillThese channels are pretty dead..22:41
FormerlyUbnoobtuSome times its moving22:42
leoneIs there a proxy that I can run that will edit my HTTP traffic and include ads?22:42
unholycrabhow do i create a .deb package which is just a directory of files? no compiling or dependencies necessary22:42
bekksnotadrill: This is the biggest channel on freenode :P22:42
leonefor my VPS, I could use it to make money22:42
sybaritendamn, multiboot usb information on the web is confusing22:43
notadrillI'm completely new to IRC.. Never used it before to be honest.. just came to check it out!22:43
djangonoobThe hardware button from my new notebook to enable/disable wifi is not working and fn+dim hotkeys shows the panel with the sun and it dims in the panel but the light intensity from the display does not change22:43
FormerlyUbnoobtuI'm pretty new with irc too.22:44
xanguasybariten: I use Multisystem wich does all for me22:44
Rory!offtopic | notadrill22:44
ubottunotadrill: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:44
abaddonsybariten: Use Multysystem22:44
notadrillOops, apparently using the wrong channel for general banter! toodle pip guys. Sorry 'bout that.22:44
abaddonsybariten: Use Multisystem*22:44
reisiotoodle pip22:45
sybaritenabaddon: xangua : which one is that? YUMI? The name is a bit general22:46
leoneWould anyone like to buy a VPS off me in BTC?22:47
abaddonsybariten: It's the name. =/ I can send a link if needed?22:47
xanguasybariten: http://liveusb.info/dotclear/ instructions to install: http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install22:47
k1l_leone: that is not the right channel for offers/advertises like that.22:47
leoneok sorry22:47
abaddonsybariten: Here is the link:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/22:48
sybaritenxangua: ah, yeah, ive been there. It was not among the five pages i bookmarked to be honest. THat page is a perfect example of what i mean, its really quite confusing22:49
abaddonsybariten: XD Yeah...but it is litterally the best tool to create multiple boot usb systems22:50
bbcomare questions about xubuntu at the right place in this chat?22:50
fishduckzup... gedit adds \n at the end of files. Is it a bug or feature?22:50
reisiobbcom: they're fine22:50
jhutchins_wkfishduck: That's "new line".22:51
xanguasybariten: commands are not confusing, and you can just download the install script like the instructions abaddon gave you22:51
jhutchins_wkfishduck: That's only seen in gedit, right?22:51
sybaritenabaddon: yeah ive read about that one.... is it a script or a GUI, btw ?22:51
sybaritenTHey call it a script but it seems like it has a gui...22:51
k1l_fishduck: that is not gedit adding it. its geddit showing it. windows editors add that22:51
reisioyou can make a GUI from a "scripting language"22:51
fishduckjhutchins_wk: I read that it's a "feature" of vim too, but no idea. But it's hellish annoying.22:51
bekksreisio: yes.22:51
FormerlyUbnoobtuI love this chat. so much. Please keep talking, I'm learning so much.22:52
abaddonsybariten: The actual page for MultiSystem is in french. Soooo...yeah, I sent you the easy page,lol. It's a totally GUI based prob22:52
iskydaleciao a tutti22:52
bbcomwhere can I find crash reports in xubuntu 12.04?22:52
abaddonsybariten: The actual page for MultiSystem is in french. Soooo...yeah, I sent you the easy page,lol. It's a totally GUI based prog*22:52
abaddonsybariten: So litterally it's the easyest one to use.22:53
sybaritenabaddon: yeah, ive been there too, as i mentioned to xangua . I happen to speak french, but how often do people release software on non-english pages really? I dont think it helps the popularity unfortunately22:53
abaddonsybariten: Totally true..but the French aren't generally friendly...imho....22:54
sybaritenbut really, take a look at this page for the program/system which is supposed to maybe be the best for multiboot USBs. https://sites.google.com/a/rmprepusb.com/www/  is that a shitload of information or what? How do you know what to (not) read, or even where to start22:54
FormerlyUbnoobtuso they wouldn't care for the effort?22:54
bbcomI have a question about accounts-daemon crashed in xubuntu 12.04. Anyone?22:54
abaddonsybariten: So yeah, look at the link, get the deb file mand run it. Should install fine and be usable imediatly.22:54
sybaritenhehe i wont say anything bad about the french as it would be un-tactical  :-D22:55
xanguasybariten: commands are not in french...22:55
abaddonxangua: I don't think sybariten thinks they ar in french?22:55
sybaritenoh, a sidenote, abaddon and xangua : (and soething that i generally find is not very clearly explained on _any_ of these methods homeages) : does multiboot allow you to really boot the actual ISO file as it is, and thus adapts itself to the ISO files it will find on a memory?22:56
sybaritenor will the ISO files still be needed to be installed somehow22:57
abaddonsybariten: Ummm, not sure what you mean? Are you talking about a sort of persisten mode??22:57
sybaritenno, forget about persistence22:58
abaddonsybariten: As for booting the iso, yeah, more or less it boots the actual iso.22:58
sybaritenimagine haveing five ISOs on a usb memory. Im talking about the actuall 700 mb ISO files. Can your system detect these files and present you with a menu where you can choose which one to boot?22:58
xanguasybariten: it will copy the iso to the usb and also install grub and make the apropiate configuration for it; you can set it to persisten also if you want to22:58
ZiberI am currently running a dualboot setup, primarily using Ubuntu but keeping Windows around for iTunes and a few programs I need (such as MS Project) that are Windows-only. Is there a way I can take the existing partition on my harddrive and turn it into a VM in Virtualbox?22:59
abaddonsybariten: Yes22:59
sybaritenand then you maybe DL a new (sixth) one, a slackware live ISO or something, and then if you put that on the USB memory you can also choose that one22:59
abaddonsybariten: yup23:00
sybaritenxangua: coz generally speaking when they "copy the iso", they inflate it23:00
abaddonsybariten: Tha's why it's sooo good as a prog. It's stupid easy to add or del an iso as needed.23:00
sybaritenabaddon: ok youve sold it to me23:01
abaddonsybariten: I use Hirens boot cd, An OS I made, and Trinity rescue on my usb23:01
abaddonsybariten: YAAYYY!! Welcome to the best thing since sliced bread,lol23:01
bbcomIf on bugs.launchpad it says 'Fix Released' where can I find that fix?23:03
bbcomI have a question about accounts-daemon crashed in xubuntu 12.04. Anyone?23:04
daftykinsjust ask.23:04
bbcomxubuntu shows a crash report every time I boot: accounts-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_connection_send()23:05
bbcomfound it at bugs.launchpad23:05
bbcomit says 'Fix Released'23:06
sasha_hi how can i disable X/gdm from starting upon boot and manually launch it ?23:06
bbcombut where can I find the fix?23:06
zykotick9!text | sasha_23:06
ubottusasha_: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode23:06
rbrookshi did someone need me im here23:06
zykotick9sasha_: fyi, it's X/lightdm if you're using a supported ubuntu version (and haven't changed teh default DM)23:07
sasha_zykotick9, and then to start gdm  ? i just launch /etc/init.d/gdm or service gdm start (change lightdm to gdm)23:07
rbrooksyuo highlight me ubottu?  :)23:08
abaddonsybariten: Doing ok?23:08
zykotick9sasha_: i'd guess, or better "sudo service lightdm start"23:08
sasha_zykotick9, but text or no text in the kernel line; how is X started in ubuntu ? .Xsession ??23:08
blognewbhello guys? can i ask about the live cd here or is there another channel for that?23:09
zykotick9sasha_: ahhh, Xorg (lightdm) would probably be started by upstart.23:09
rbrooksblognewb, i'll give it a shot23:09
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:09
sasha_zykotick9, ok my ultimate goal is to understand how is pulseaudio started; it seems like it is in /et/init but it is started per user23:10
blognewbhi sorry i was going to ask if i can put the live cd into an SD card instead. Can it auto load from there during boot ala livecd? And also while the livecd is running, can it detect a usb stick, while you are inside the ubuntu livecd or not?23:10
sasha_under the user context23:10
blognewb@ rbrooks or anyone23:10
zykotick9sasha_: sorry, i don't personally know... good luck.23:11
sasha_zykotick9, but  i can't see it in autostart/crontab ...23:11
sasha_zykotick9, ha  htanks23:11
rbrooksblognewb, sdcard in a usb2 sdcard reader maybe23:11
blognewb** i meant can i access files inside a usb stick while im in the livecd loaded to a laptop with a win7 os23:12
rbrooksif you are booted yes you should see/mount usb drives23:12
felipesierraHi to everyone...please someone that can help me whit this error...when I start my pc , appear the follow errror EXT4-fs (sda 1): last error at 1384698387: __ext4_get_inode_loc:3629:inode  4720112:block  1887449423:13
zykotick9felipesierra: i'd recommend starting from a livecd/usb and fscking your sda1 partition...23:14
daftykinsfelipesierra: sounds like your disk has some troubles, what happened before this started to come up?23:14
daftykinsand do what zykotick9 said ^23:14
abaddonsasha_: you can check /etc/xdg/gnome/xinitrc Or whatever you window manager is I think23:15
rbrooksi think you could put the live iso onto a sdcard while loaded in a reader and even boot from it create it with "UUI"23:15
rbrooksblognewb, ^23:15
abaddonsasha_: ie, if you're using xfce4 the it'd likely be /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc23:15
blognewbcan an ubuntu livecd also detect an sd card instead of a usb drive while it's on, rbrooks ?23:16
felipesierradaftykins: appear a screen whit some options and this error appear when I starr the pc en recovery mode23:16
rbrooksi think that would depend...23:16
abaddonsasha_: Ultimatly I think pulse starts through daemon23:16
rbrooksblognewb, depends whether the reader device is detected/supported23:16
daftykinsfelipesierra: so yeah, boot a CD/DVD/USB of ubuntu and fsck your disk23:17
blognewbrbrooks, supported by what23:17
rbrookstias yrmv :)23:17
sasha_abaddon, no it is xdg jus tfigured out thanks23:17
rbrooksthe reader itself lots are proprietary23:17
rbrooksload a live cd and see...  oh yeah23:18
abaddonsasha_: Huh....23:18
abaddonsasha_: Ok, cool23:18
rbrooksdont forget to thank whomever wrote the driver23:18
sasha_abaddon, btw i guess pasuspender is more dedicated to my ultimate goal :23:18
felipesierradaftykins: zykotick9 : could be that my disk is damage?23:19
daftykinsit could be, yes23:19
Ari-Yangfelipesierra: I recommend getting an iso from here http://releases.ubuntu.com/ and make a bootable usb23:19
daftykinsfelipesierra: boot a liveCD! :)23:19
abaddonsasha_: What's your ultimate goal?23:19
Ari-Yangfelipesierra: could mean bad sectors... I got that like 3 weeks ago, had to boot off of a bootable usb and run fsck23:19
felipesierraAri-Yang: daftykins zykotick9 thanks so much23:20
sasha_abaddon, starting xbmc with direct access to device without pulseaudio23:21
Ari-Yangfelipesierra: np, use start up disk creator, it should already be installed23:21
abaddonsasha_: Why not have a script kill pulse at the begining?23:21
sasha_abaddon, i still want a full DE that starts xbmc with direct device access23:23
sasha_abaddon, just needed to figured out where and how it is started in the first place :)23:23
rbrooksblognewb, just to be clear, a usb card reader should always work23:23
abaddonsasha_: Yould just add to your session manager or .xsession pulseaudio -k23:23
rbrooksif it is proprietary/builtin yrmv...23:25
abaddonsasha_: Ahhh...I had a guy earlyer ask about starting modules within xbmc. You may want to look at using /etc/modules to ether stop or start pulse.23:25
rbrooksblognewb, i gtg hth23:25
sasha_abaddon, my issue is that xbmc with pulse audio do not support dts hd ma / true hd 5.1/7.123:26
sasha_abaddon, only dts-core 5.123:26
blognewbrbrooks, thank you so much23:26
rbrooksno problemo23:26
rbrooksanytime cya23:26
abaddonsasha_: It should handel pulse. I just don't know the command for its module. Errr...I'll pretend I got that,lol. Have you looked to just using ALSA?23:26
zykotick9sasha_: "pasuspender xbmc" should disable pulse... (i'd forgotten about that option)23:27
sasha_abaddon, yes but pulese don't handle dts-hd ma/ dolby true hd23:27
abaddonsasha_: You mean ALSA right? or both?23:28
omg_scoutHello. Is it normal that I have much worse experience with gaming on Ubuntu using Intel HD cards than on Windows?23:28
abaddonomg_scout: loolz...intel....23:28
sasha_abaddon, upon some xbmc devs;  xbmc have ALSA and pulseaudio support but pulseaudio is limited to stereo and 5.1 core23:28
sasha_abaddon, so just nned to wrap xbmc launch/close with pulseaudio start/stop23:29
nismoSVKintel HD on ubuntu should works really good23:29
omg_scoutabaddon: what is so funny? I play non demanding games23:29
azio_mwhy ubuntu /home/myusername is not showing when i logged in as root - recovery mode through shell?23:29
abaddonsasha_: But ALSA can support it?23:29
zykotick9nismoSVK: for gaming... not so much...23:29
sasha_abaddon, pulse is a wrapper around alsa right ?23:29
abaddonomg_scout: It's Intel...shoulda gone with Nvidia...or ATI23:29
abaddonsasha_: Yes23:29
abaddonsasha_: Well...more or less23:30
nismoSVKzykotick9 yes not for gaming23:30
zykotick9sasha_: pulse runs onto of alsa yes.  it replaces ESD.23:30
sasha_abaddon, yes direct alsa support it ; tested with openelec23:30
nismoSVKnvidia is the best now for linux gaming i think23:30
abaddonsasha_: I once argued to a guy about purging pulse from the system and solely using ALSA and the forums called me an idiot,lol23:30
sasha_zykotick9, ok that s it xbmc has its own audio engine separate from esd/oss/pulseaudio/ jackd .....23:30
omg_scoutabaddon: Why? Intel Hd4600 has enough power to run all 5 years old games I belive, and you get it for free. Anyway, I have issues with its driver, which I belive is not 100% following its windows counterpart23:31
abaddonsasha_: It's never hurt me. But removing pulse will limit other functionality.23:31
abaddonomg_scout: So you're using the propiatary drivers rather than the open drivers?23:31
nismoSVKfor intel HD cards is usually newest kernel the best23:32
sasha_abaddon, ok guess i found my cuplrit here  : http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7130/223:32
nismoSVKHD3000/HD4000, newest kernel = better performance23:32
abaddonsasha_: Ahhh..I learn something new every day23:33
omg_scoutnismoSVK:  I have 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu. Is it worth going for a newer?23:33
abaddonI'da advocated purging pulse. But the thing is I don't know how xbmc would handle it.23:33
nismoSVKomg_scout no if u dont want, its good23:34
nismoSVK3.11 have good results for intel HD23:34
abaddonsasha_: Glad you found your culprit though23:35
omg_scoutnismoSVK: Thank you, I will have a try. I don't want to keep dual boot only for those few games I play once in a month23:35
sasha_abaddon, ;) thanks for your time btw23:35
abaddonsasha_: Np, sorry I wasn't much help23:36
sasha_abaddon, need to restart to test bye23:36
abaddonsasha_: ciao23:36
nismoSVKomg_scout: fine, i am using "only" 3.9.9 and its fine with intel, but i have nvidia optimus too, i use more times nvidia...what games u want play on linux?23:36
icewalkerhow can install an older version (not the latest) of konqueror broswer for testing?23:37
omg_scoutnismoSVK: It is mainly Crusader Kings, which uses Shaders I belive. I tried on their forum, but they claim they do not have active programmers in Linux to help that. On Windows it works well, on Ubuntu very ugly and slow.23:38
zykotick9icewalker: forwardporting is non-trivial most of the time...23:39
wilee-nileeabaddon, Sorry for calling you an idiot earlier, it was not fair. However I had asked the cheese user if they had hit f11, it just seemed you were more interested in giving answers rather than or knowing the whole picture we had at that point.23:39
zykotick9!cookie | wilee-nilee ;)23:39
ubottuwilee-nilee ;): Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!23:39
nismoSVKomg_scout: u run it with WINE? i think u should try CSMT version of wine, whitch can improve direct3D games on linux very well (if it is on d3d)23:39
wilee-nileezykotick9, I'm just willing to answer to my foibles, hehe. ;)23:40
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blognewbHi, can a livecd ubuntu run via a usb stick/drive detect/recognize a mounted sd card and read the files in it?23:40
omg_scoutnismoSVK: Nope, it got official linux client, which one can get using Steam. Other Steam games work well on Ubuntu, like Half-life 2, which, I belive is as demanding as Crusader Kings23:40
abaddonwilee-nilee: I think I'll live..barely. ;P Anyway, I apologize too as I should have asked to step in and get tyhe whole picture. Sorry....23:41
icewalkeri trying to get/install an older broswer client that do support sni for testing on ubuntu1323:41
sprachgeneratorI'm needing some help troubleshooting a pxe/netboot install, the system was working great but unfortunately something changed and I'm not sure what - right now the installer is hanging right at loading the megasas driver as noted in terminal 4, my seed file is here: http://pastebin.com/UZqnUSXC23:41
Guest24204Hi I encrypted my ubuntu /home. Now trying a debian OS (mint) any idea's how I can get it to read the encrypted data (what encryption tool does Ubuntu installer use?)23:41
wilee-nileeabaddon, I know you will. ;)23:41
nismoSVKomg_scout: yes and u have problem with fps than ?23:41
abaddonwilee-nilee: bwahajhahahahhahaha Ayyy23:42
omg_scoutnismoSVK: FPS is lower, but also it just looks very ugly... hard to describe. Looks like it did some task on CPU, which is usually done on GPU, but I am not an expert here/23:42
icewalkeri run into problem getting an old version of broswers (like firefox etct), any suggestions?23:42
omg_scoutnismoSVK: Resolution and all graphic settings are all the same23:43
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nismoSVKomg_scout: yes its problem with game than, they should fix it soon23:43
Sam__Is there anyone that has been able to install Ubuntu 12.x in a dual boot mode on Lenovo T series laptops? My main concern is compatibility with graphics and wireless. I have checked both the Lenovo and Ubuntu hardware compatibility web site. There is a clause there that the standard ubuntu may not work well with the certified systems.  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14169/23:44
nismoSVKomg_scout: maybe u can try run it with WINE (windows version of the game) if u will have same issues, maybe its problem only with linux client23:44
reisioSam__: if the install image works, that's that23:45
reisioif it doesn't work, it might still work with some extra effort23:45
omg_scoutnismoSVK: People say it works with other gfx cards, so I hope it will get resolved sooner or later;)23:46
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nismoSVKomg_scout: yes it will :-)23:47
* wilee-nilee attempts a kinder nicer persona on the IRC just for fun23:47
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allstarsnorks2hi guys, i am having a problem installing gksu on my Ubuntu 13.10 install23:48
Sam__reisio: I am planning to buy a lenovo model T with Windows installed and make it dual boot by using ubuntu's installer from Windows. I was trying to find if anyone has been able to perform this and on which Lenvo T model.23:48
abaddonallstarsnorks2: What happens when you try?23:49
wilee-nileeallstarsnorks2, sudo apt-get install gksu does not do it?23:49
jvoreI love Ubuntu 13.1023:49
omg_scoutSam__: I did that, any questions?23:49
allstarsnorks2abaddon: E: Unable to locate package gksu23:49
wilee-nileeallstarsnorks2, What release, and this is a canononical ubuntu right, not a derivative?23:50
abaddonallstarsnorks2: Welll...this may better suit wilee-nilee23:50
allstarsnorks2canonical Ubuntu 13.1023:50
omg_scoutSam__: I installed ubuntu 12 and 13 + Windows 7 and 8 dualboot on T530 and T430,  almost all configurations, worked without issues23:50
allstarsnorks2wilee-nilee: 100% Ubuntu 13.10 from Canonical23:51
Guest24204anyone know about accessing data encrypted by Ubuntu?23:52
wilee-nileeallstarsnorks2, Can you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin it?23:52
Sam__omg_scout: Two quick questions. 1) Which Lenovo model T did you use ? Do you remember ther graphcs and wireless chip vendor? 2) Were you able to install ubuntu using the dual boot installer from Ubuntu  on Windows 7?23:52
blognewbHi, guys? can a livecd ubuntu run via a usb stick/drive detect/recognize a mounted sd card and read the files in it?Hi, can a livecd ubuntu run via a usb stick/drive detect/recognize a mounted sd card and read the files in it?23:53
allstarsnorks2just a minute23:53
wilee-nileeblognewb, Should, you mounting it from the live session>?23:54
abaddonMay I stephan in for a sec wilee-nilee? Looking it up it seems gksu has been left out after Ubu 13:04 Rather gksudo is used in its stead.23:54
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wilee-nileeabaddon, YOu have to have gksu to run gksudo I believe.23:54
abaddonwilee-nilee: Saysthey're not identical23:55
abaddonwilee-nilee: Says they're not identical on the forums23:55
blognewbwilee-nilee, from the live session sir yes23:55
wilee-nileeabaddon, I have seen that error when I ran it without it being installed I believe.23:55
omg_scoutSam__: I used T530 (I do not have it anymore so I cannot tell you about wifi vendor) but it had intel HD4000. I dualbooted using GRUB, without problems. Ubuntu worked "out of the box", Windows 7 needed most of the drivers installed (including ethernet card, which is pretty fail). Now I have T430 , also dualboot with Windows, and not a single problem with them.23:55
shadytv_abaddon, that's weird because i saw that gksudo is gone. I can get gksu just not gksudo23:55
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wilee-nileeblognewb, So not being read? what format is the ssd in  and has there been a problem with it already?23:56
allstarsnorks2_wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/cRqRkPtP23:56
abaddonwilee-nilee: shadytv_ here is the discussion about it. Guy talked to devs about it.http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-0423:56
mojtaba1Hi, I have connected my mobile (android) to my laptop (ubuntu). but when I run the command lsblk, I can not see the partition of the mobile phone. Do you know how can I cp my mobile contents via cmd?23:57
reisiomojtaba1: honestly easier to do it over wireless23:57
mehworki have a 5 year old eeepc (netbook). What version of ubuntu is optimized for it these days?23:57
wilee-nileeabaddon, "As a clarification, gksudo and gksu are not identical, even though one is a symbolic link to another"23:57
abaddonwilee-nilee: true23:57
blognewbwilee-nilee, no i am planning to go get an sd card and another usb stick now, i was trying to make sure if a livecd run via usb drive can mount/read/write to an sd card or should i get another usb23:57
wilee-nileeabaddon, I have had an error on gksudo " install gksu"23:58
allstarsnorks2_so, any luck? @wilee-nilee?23:58
strtoki hate abaddon23:58
mojtaba1reisio: Just for my curiosity. How can I do that via cmd?23:58
omg_scoutSam__: Do you need help partitioning or anything?23:58
abaddonbwahahaha strtok thanks.... wilee-nilee mmmmmmk23:58
wilee-nileeallstarsnorks2_, open the sources list and untick the partners run a update and try again.23:59
blognewbwilee-nilee, are you still there?23:59
reisiomojtaba1: without wireless?23:59
abaddonstrtok: Don't worry, you can bash me since I have to go. =] I hate me at times too.23:59
wilee-nileeblognewb, Yes23:59
mojtaba1reisio: yes23:59
allstarsnorks2_wilee-nilee: how do i do that? SOrry, I'm a LInux noob here.23:59
reisiomojtaba1: you'd have to find the devices and mount them23:59

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