[00:00] <K`zan> bekks: Yes
[00:00] <ademoglu> guys i have weechat 0.3.7 how to update weechat 0.4.2 or more update version ?
[00:00] <K`zan> Skippped the i386 thing and added the repo, let's see if that works...
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> K`zan, what does _release -a show
[00:00] <ademoglu> there is not more sources at repo
[00:00] <Danato> wilee-nilee: im using my phone, I cant see who is here
[00:01] <MonkeyDust> ademoglu  if you want something beyond what's in the repos, you'd need a ppa or external .deb, but that'sz not supported here
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> K`zan, lsb_release -a
[00:01] <K`zan> wilee-nilee: Linux jean 3.2.0-54-generic #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:08:42 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:01] <ademoglu> MonkeyDust: hmm ok propaply you are right
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> K`zan, That is not ubuntu
[00:02] <K`zan> wilee-nilee: root@jean:~# lsb_release -a
[00:02] <K`zan> No LSB modules are available.
[00:02] <K`zan> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[00:02] <K`zan> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[00:02] <K`zan> Release:        12.04
[00:02] <K`zan> Codename:       precise
[00:02] <FloodBot1> K`zan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <K`zan> root@jean:~#
[00:02] <wafflejock> ademoglu: https://launchpad.net/~nesthib/+archive/weechat-stable
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> K`zan, Ah that is and your in a root terminal great.
[00:02] <wafflejock> ademoglu: follow instructions there, add repository, do a sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> why do people root there teminal
[00:03] <K`zan> wilee-nilee: Yes, ssh'd into that box, trying to set it up for a handicapped friend.
[00:03] <Nas_> hey everyone.. i'm trying to setup a server with deluged,couchpotato and sabnzbd. got most of it working but i'm running all of this form vmware. Because i wanted ot save all downloaded files locally on my windows PC i tried connecting to a share and thought i set all permissions correctly but permission is still denied to deluged saving to it. i am able to save to it manually.
[00:03] <ademoglu> wilee-nilee: for to make everything ?
[00:03] <Danato> wilee-nilee: can I restore the bash shell by copying it from another computer?
[00:03] <K`zan> wilee-nilee: been doing this for years, not afraid of root access :-).  Just damned careful...
[00:04] <MonkeyDust> Danato  you mean .bashrc ?
[00:05] <minimec> K`zan: ok. edit 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list', remove '#' in front of the partner repository, then <ctrl>x, then sudoa apt-get update, then 'sudo apt-get install skype'.
[00:05] <paulo> iaiii
[00:05] <Danato> MonkeyDust I mean /bin/bash
[00:05] <ademoglu> guys which pc or mac best for ubuntu ?
[00:05] <wafflejock> ademoglu: best is the most subjective question
[00:06] <ianorlin> yes best is subjective
[00:06] <K`zan> minimec: Added it this way:  add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" - looks like it is installing the world now :-).
[00:07] <ademoglu> wafflejock: ianorlin why ? maybe in here used ubuntu various computers with ubuntu
[00:08] <Danato> MonkeyDust: would that work or is each one specific to each system?
[00:08] <ianorlin> even if it was a laptop there could be how much space someone has in a backpack
[00:08] <wafflejock> ademoglu: not saying it's bad you're just going to elicit a lot of opinion and probably few facts, and the nature of the question begs another question, what are you using it for and what do you want to be best about it?
[00:08] <ianorlin> and how much budget they have
[00:09] <K`zan> minimec: wilee-nilee and all, thanks!
[00:09] <wafflejock> ademoglu: it's like asking who is the best olympian, there are many bests
[00:11] <MaynardWaters> hi, I have an old R51 thinkpad, which i am trying to boot with the livecd LTS
[00:11] <MaynardWaters> it keeps telling me that pae needs to be enabled in the kernel
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> ademoglu, I don't understand the question in reference to changing the swap.
[00:11] <ianorlin> what kind of processor does it have?
[00:12] <MaynardWaters> centino M
[00:12] <anonymous_> hi
[00:12] <MaynardWaters> i am using the 32 bit version
[00:12] <MaynardWaters> it only had 1G of ram
[00:12] <ianorlin> which one the pae 32 bit versoin of 12.04?
[00:13] <MaynardWaters> i go to the download page and it says the 32 is the default
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> ianorlin, ubuntu
[00:13] <Danato> Is there any way to restore my /bin/bash file only?
[00:13] <MaynardWaters> ianorlin: yes
[00:13] <bekks> Danato: Boot a live cd, chroot into your system, reinstall the bash package.
[00:14] <JimmyNeutron> Is there a way for me to query all the files in a package that have not been installed?
[00:14] <minimec> MaynardWaters: You can either use the lubuntu 12.04 install disk, or you follow that article http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[00:14] <Danato> bekks how do I reinstall it?
[00:15] <bekks> Danato: apt-get install --reinstall bash
[00:15] <minimec> MaynardWaters: There is even a video tutorial available http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLAQ2uQgTAY
[00:15] <Danato> bekks, nice but whats chroot?
[00:16] <bekks> Danato: A command :)
[00:16] <Danato> bekks: lol yes but how do I do that?
[00:16] <MaynardWaters> minimec: thanks for the vid
[00:16] <wafflejock> !chroot > Danato
[00:20] <lolcat_> Can I use apt to install programs without root?
[00:23] <bunduru> lolcat_ yes use sudo
[00:23] <lolcat_> bunduru: ....
[00:24] <lolcat_> I obviously dont have sudo either
[00:24] <ianorlin> no then you can't
[00:24] <bunduru> oh i see
[00:26] <bunduru> man this wireless card... is killing me
[00:30] <Eliyahu> my driver installation for dell inspiron 1526 for ubuntu 13.10 says for wireless driver , broadcom STA wireless driver , license propretary and i clicke to activate/install and it says "sorry installation of this driverfailed please have a looka t the log file for details /var/log/jockey.log "
[00:31] <Eliyahu> any ideas why it failed?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | Eliyahu have you looked here.
[00:35] <SchrodingersScat> There should be a broadcom class action suit, they have countless victims now.
[00:37] <Danato> bekks do you have a second?
[00:38] <Danato> bekks: iused this tutorial http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/07/creating-chroot-ubuntu.html?m=1
[00:39] <Danato> But after the line sudo chroot /mnt/temp I got a Permission Denied error
[00:40] <Danato> Or is there anybody who knows how to chroot and can help me with this error?
[00:44] <yeyeman> how do I mount a partition in the terminal?
[00:44] <sam113101> yeyeman: using mount
[00:46] <yeyeman> sam113101, yeah
[00:46] <wafflejock> !mount > yeyeman
[00:47] <sam113101> it wasn't a question
[00:47] <yeyeman> sam113101, are you Linus Torwalds?
[00:50] <Eliyahu> whats the favored user friendly wireless network scanner for ubuntu
[00:51] <liu> 这是什么东东
[00:51] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: what do you mean scanner? you can use iwlist/iwconfig to get info from the command line ubuntu also includes a network-manager for basic stuff in your panel next to the clock
[00:51] <noideas> where would be a good place to go in getting assistance with a specific request possibly using 'sort' or 'diff'?
[00:52] <reisio> noideas: which specific request?
[00:52] <noideas> well I want to be able to export a specific file, but im not sure if i can do it with sort or diff
[00:53] <reisio> noideas: neither is anyone else going to be, till you're more specific
[00:53] <wafflejock> !china | liu
[00:54] <Gnewt> I had two 2TB disks in software RAID using LVM, set up via the server (textual) install wizard. One of them failed and I'm getting it RMA'd. What's the right way to recover the volume once I get a fresh HDD?
[00:54] <Gnewt> It was mirroring so nothing fancy
[00:55] <noideas> reisio: I have two files, I want to be able to line up the context of the files that is the same to matching lines, and thoes lines that do not match left blank on either file.
[00:55] <loa> strange, there so little quantity of people on #ubuntu-cn
[00:55] <loa> ubuntu not popular in china?
[00:55] <Danato> How do I chroot a system with a broken /bin/bash using a live cd?
[00:55] <jaydubzy> sam113101: see "man mount" in terminal
[00:55] <jaydubzy> sam113101: eg: "mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mount/me/here"
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> !chroot
[00:55] <wafflejock> loa: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin < think it's popular dunno though
[00:56] <amanda_> how do i remote desktop using ubuntu 12.10 can't seem to find the option
[00:56] <Jordan_U> noideas: How is "context of the files that is the same" defined? Please pastebin both files and explain your end goal?
[00:57] <amanda_> hello
[00:57] <wafflejock> amanda_: not sure there is anything built in so to speak.. believe you need to get vnc
[00:58] <amanda_> thought so cheers
[01:00] <Eliyahu> wafflejock i got the network manager to recognize the local wifi connection thats broadcasting but where does it say to enter into the wep key for the connection i just see the connection name
[01:00] <Shinobi> I can't find my vncviewer. I used to type this command, but it's no longer there
[01:01] <Eliyahu> wafflejock nvm spoke to soon found it :)
[01:01] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: usually after selecting connect it will usually prompt you otherwise you can generally go to edit connections
[01:01] <wafflejock> kk
[01:01] <reisio> Shinobi: ask apt-file
[01:02] <Shinobi> reisio: nice. I'll install that
[01:03] <MaynardWaters> minimec: lubuntu 12.04 returned the same error when trying to boot live
[01:03] <ianorlin> is this about pae?
[01:03] <MaynardWaters> the youtube worked beyond the point I can get to
[01:03] <Danato> wilee-nilee: I followed these instructions and got an error on the last step sudo chroot /mnt/tmp http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/07/creating-chroot-ubuntu.html?m=1
[01:04] <Danato> wilee-nilee: failed to run command 'bin/bash' Permission denied
[01:05] <noideas> Jordan_U this in an example of what i am looking for as an end result http://pastebin.com/7TPrqfj8
[01:05] <minimec> MaynardWaters: welcome back. Very strange... --> see first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present
[01:06] <noideas> Jordan_U: each side is one file
[01:06] <we6jbo> Is there a good linux multi-user guide out there for someone that wants to have three monitors+keyboards in different rooms share one computer system?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> noideas: So matching lines in your case means lines whose contents are identical outside of the "\\DHCP02" portion?
[01:07] <noideas> yes
[01:07] <FuuqUmist> we6jbo all on the same OS? or 3 different OSes or something
[01:08] <Jordan_U> noideas: And what is your end goal? Why do you want such a file?
[01:08] <Kality> Is there a way to play a .MOV on an Ubuntu application ? It's a QuickTime File Format and VLC says No . Any ideas ? File = 2.2 GB
[01:08] <we6jbo> FuuqUmist: It would be Ubuntu 13 on a Dell OptiPlex 320 and then I'd want to share that one system with three different users
[01:09] <noideas> Jordan_U: to make sure The scopes on both DHCP servers have the same information
[01:09] <we6jbo> FuuqUmist: So I'd have a monitor and a keyboard in three rooms and then they'd all login to the Ubuntu 13 system
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Kality: What error message does VLC give? Please pastebin the output of "file /path/to/video.mov"?
[01:10] <FuuqUmist> we6jbo i think just hook up the monitors and keyboards
[01:10] <prodigy> hi there
[01:10] <we6jbo> I'm googling and I see people have done it but I'm not sure exactly how
[01:11] <Kality> Jordan_U, I don't know how to-do that ? Pls  explain the file path thingy , to mees .
[01:11] <Jordan_U> noideas: To get such an output I expect that you will need to make a full script, bash, python, or otherwise, rather than just use options to standard commands.
[01:12] <FuuqUmist> we6jbo do you want everyone to control the same document or something at the same time? or for each person to have their own personal session or something?
[01:12] <rtsdadp> hey all
[01:13] <FuuqUmist> because i'm sure if you connect 10 keyboards are the same thing they will all work at the same thing automatically, same with monitors showing the exact same display image
[01:13] <we6jbo> FuuqUmist: It would be different tasks. One user might be playing a video game, another might be checking email and a 3rd might be printing a writer document
[01:13] <FuuqUmist> oh
[01:13] <Kality> Jordan_U, way over my head ... I just get 'sound' without picture .. it plays but - there be no picture .
[01:13] <noideas> Jordan_U: I though i might have to go that route. Would you be able to point me in a direction in attempts to accomplish my request?
[01:13] <Kality> #mox
[01:13] <Kality> !mox
[01:13] <noideas> Jordan_U: or something perfered maybe
[01:13] <Kality> !mov
[01:13] <Kality> !.mov
[01:14] <Kality> !quicktime
[01:14] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: you mean like a thin client? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client
[01:14] <loa> what can i check if mplayer and smplayer have no sound? looks like i use mplayer in console and hit something on keyboard. and aftert that i haven't not got sound.
[01:14] <FuuqUmist> we6jbo if you  fine out let me know, that sounds cool being able to do that with just one computer
[01:14] <Shinobi> my vncviewer is gone. Can anyone help me?
[01:14] <FuuqUmist> find*
[01:14] <loa> sound in my system 100% working)
[01:15] <we6jbo> SchrodingersScat: That looks similar to what I'm looking for. Let me read a little more
[01:17] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClients in case that really is what you are looking for.
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I'm not sure where is the bin/bash and how are you trying to use it, I ran that chroot and had another OS on the hd set its grub to the mbr and updated it.
[01:19] <we6jbo> SchrodingersScat: Ok I read through the webpage. It's close to what I'm looking for. I do want the power of a desktop tower on each of the systems. I'm using a chromebook so I know that's not something I want
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Kality: Does VLC give you any error message?
[01:19] <Kality> no
[01:20] <FuuqUmist> SchrodingersScat can you game or do intensive things with a thin client setup?
[01:21] <SchrodingersScat> FuuqUmist: never had one of my own, can't say.
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Kality: If you select Tools> Codec Information, what codec does VLC is used for the video in the file?
[01:23] <Danato> wilee-nilee: sorry I meant '/bin/bash'. I want to reinstall bash because it doea work, so they told me to chmod into the system and reinstal it. I followed the steps given in the tutorial I gave you and found that error
[01:23] <VlanX> sorry guys, how comes i cant see previous a freeze with /var/log/syslog ?
[01:23] <we6jbo> SchrodingersScat: This is what I'm imaginging though I don't know if this would work. The Dell OptiPlex 320 system that I currently have would have three video cards for each user. The video signal would then be converted wirelessly to monitors in different parts of a building. The keyboard/mouse could run on it's own wireless signal somehow. Then each keyboard/mouse and monitor would have it's own desktop and home folder in addition to bei
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Danato: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[01:23] <VlanX> I can only see stuff from after the reboot
[01:23] <Eliyahu> wafflejock you think its worth installing the ubuntu 64 bit on the dell inspiron 1526 when its only got 2GB of ram but can go up to 4GB?
[01:24] <Eliyahu> wafflejock or should i stay on the 32 bit
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> Danato, Any command given for reinstalling bash, never had to do it, you are root there no sudo.
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: sounds above my pay grade.
[01:25] <Danato> Jordan_U: I cant, im on my phone
[01:25] <Eliyahu> is it  worth installing the ubuntu 64 bit on the dell inspiron 1526 when its only got 2GB of ram but can go up to 4GB?
[01:25] <Kality> My screen just went dim :(
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> Eliyahu, Should be fine, bump the ram if you can.
[01:25] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[01:26] <we6jbo> SchrodingersScat: Well it would be the price of three video cards and whatever drives the wireless signal plus three monitors and keyboards. I don't know if that would work or not
[01:26] <Danato> wilee-nilee: sorry I ddnt get your point
[01:26] <Eliyahu> wafflejock its wise to upgrade to the 64 regardless then because it can process more right?
[01:27] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: agree with wilee-nilee 64-bit should be fine and is recommended on that page I've been using 64-bit builds for a bit and haven't had any problems really getting software or anything
[01:27] <ianorlin> it uses more ram for base
[01:27] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: how to get the multiple users on there is what I don't understand how you will accomplish.
[01:27] <jaydubzy> Eliyahu: yeah, 64-bit will be fine. It doesn't use much more ram than 32-bit version, some apps run a little faster and it's well enough supported now that there's really no reason not to.
[01:27] <Jordan_U> Danato: Check the line in /proc/mounts relating to /mnt/tmp/ and see if it contains the mount option "noexec".
[01:27] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: it will generally get all the advantages of the architecture changes in 64bit vs 32
[01:27] <we6jbo> SchrodingersScat: I don't know either. That's what I'm trying to research and find out
[01:27] <Eliyahu> jaydubzy thanks :D
[01:27] <Eliyahu> wafflejock thanks :D
[01:28] <ianorlin> I don't think 64 bit vs 32 bit is that much difference if you have enough ram
[01:28] <draggehn> Hey there! I have a question: I upgraded to 13.10 today (don't know if it came out today) and when I started up my laptop, I logged in and the little sidebar (with all the apps, etc.) did not show up.
[01:28] <draggehn> (sorry for the long post :p) Did I do something wrong?
[01:28] <jaydubzy> draggehn: What video card do you have? It may not be getting along nicely
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> Danato, Are you reinstalling the bash app or something in bash?
[01:29] <draggehn> I don't know as it is a laptop (and not mine for that matter; spare from my dad's work) and 13.04 worked nicely.
[01:29] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: np here's a bit more detail on memory usage http://askubuntu.com/questions/7034/what-is-the-difference-between-32-bit-and-64-bit-and-which-should-i-choose
[01:29] <jaydubzy> draggehn: if you log out, at the log-in screen there should be a little circle near where you type your password. If you click this it will give you a list of alternate DE's, see if one of these works properly
[01:30] <Tangy81> Hi everyone. I'm an APCS teacher, I'm installing ubuntu on all our current machines. I'm looking for a Deep Freeze alternative for Linux. I have used ofris, but it doesn't reset system files, only home files. For example if someone uses chrome to login to their google account, their bookmarks, etc are saved on the computer ever after a restart. Does anyone have any ideas?
[01:30] <Eliyahu> wafflejock you think the ubuntu 14.10 trust tarh isnt as good as 13.10 right now is it?
[01:30] <ianorlin> it is not stable yet
[01:30] <Kality> Jordan_U, It won't even play on latest software !! i.e. Lightworks . http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/lightworks-enter-public-beta
[01:30] <Danato> Jordan_U: I dont have a mounts dir in /proc
[01:30] <draggehn> jaydubzy: the problem is whenever I press Ctrl+Alt+Del or try to log off (Ctrl+Alt+L doesn't work either) nothing happens.
[01:31] <jaydubzy> Tangy81: I don't know what Deep Freeze does, but I usually just make images of my hard drives using dd. This way I can restore everything to the state it was when I took the image easily
[01:31] <Danato> wilee-nilee: the idea is to restore bash
[01:31] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: they go year.month so 2014 October it should be released for now you'll likely encounter bugs with anything beyond 13.04, 12.04 has long term support for 5 years then will have to switch over in 2017 at latest
[01:31] <jaydubzy> draggehn: don't know if those shortcuts are in place anymore. Press ctrl+T to open a terminal and type "gnome-session-quit" to log out
[01:31] <Tangy81> jaydubzy: For a school enviroment with 36+ computers, that's inefficient. Deep Freeze basically "freezes" the computer state, so files created would be erased after a restart.
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> Danato, you've been getting better help than I can give, hehe carry on.
[01:32] <jaydubzy> Tangy81: ah yes, I see. Not sure what you might want to use then
[01:32] <draggehn> jaydubzy: I do not see this circle you are talking about and now that I logged out, I see a user named "Light Display Manager" with a password.
[01:32] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: currently I'm running 12.04 on my development and deployment machines but was using 13.04 with no real problems... had some actual hardware failure I mistook for a software failure so I down-graded after lots of debugging
[01:32] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcq5rWEeDko
[01:32] <jaydubzy> draggehn: That's interesting, sounds like something's pretty broken :/
[01:33] <jaydubzy> the circle (might be the ubuntu logo) should be directly to the right of the user's name
[01:33] <jaydubzy> draggehn: see above
[01:33] <we6jbo> SchrodingersScat: I'll check it out. Thanks
[01:33] <ianorlin> have you logged in draggehn?
[01:34] <draggehn> jaydubzy: I don't see this. Hm. I think I'll do a(nother) fresh install.
[01:34] <Danato> wilee-nilee: lol actually any help would very appreciated, ive been here for some hours already without any
[01:34] <jaydubzy> draggehn: verify the disc contents before you do
[01:34] <draggehn> ianorlin: Yes I have. I also logged out with "gnome-session-quit"
[01:34] <ianorlin> ah
[01:34] <jaydubzy> draggehn: I've had a lot of installs go bad because of corrupt DVDs
[01:34] <ianorlin> burn them slower
[01:35] <draggehn> jaydubzy: freshly burned 13.10 from  the site, I think it's fine
[01:35] <ianorlin> and check md5sum
[01:35] <jaydubzy> draggehn: can never be sure.
[01:35] <jaydubzy> draggehn: (without verifying and comparing md5, that is)
[01:35] <draggehn> jaydubzy: how big should the .iso for ubuntu 13.10 be?
[01:35] <wafflejock> draggehn: check the md5sum it's your best bet
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> Danato, In general I have not had to reinstall bash I have not looked at it's dependencies, my simple reaction is in a chroot,  apt-get install bash
[01:35] <jaydubzy> draggehn: not sure off hand, compare the md5.
[01:36] <Danato> Jordan_U my mistake, mounts is not a dir, sorry jst a sec
[01:36] <draggehn> jaydubzy: where will I find the md5 for the ubuntu 13.10 iso to compare to?
[01:36] <wafflejock> draggehn: if the md5 sum checks out okay then your download at least matches what the website is telling you, you should have, after that just pick a lower burning speed than max and give it another go
[01:37] <wafflejock> draggehn: are you on linux or windows to burn the iso?
[01:37] <jaydubzy> draggehn: you can find it on the ubuntu site. you might need to browse to the alternate-downloads page to find the file there
[01:37] <draggehn> jaydubzy: windows.
[01:37] <draggehn> wafflejock: windows
[01:37] <draggehn> jaydubzy: sorry, meant to quote wafflejock :p
[01:37] <draggehn> *reply
[01:37] <jaydubzy> draggehn: no worries
[01:38] <wafflejock> draggehn: if you use img burn to burn the disks I believe it shows the md5 sum for the iso for you in the burning window after you load the ISO
[01:38]  * Kality switch to Vaper rather than chain-roaching :(
[01:38] <wafflejock> draggehn: http://www.imgburn.com/
[01:38] <draggehn> wafflejock: yep, used that.
[01:38] <wafflejock> k yeah then the other part is to find the MD5 sum on the website where you downloaded from.. can you drop your current link?
[01:39] <draggehn> wafflejock: I just used http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[01:39] <ianorlin> if you have another comp with a burner might try that one
[01:39] <draggehn> wafflejock: and I'm not seeing the MD5 in imgburn. Do I need to put a disk in first?
[01:40] <draggehn> ianorlin: I have no other computers in the house (that I can use) other than my desktop and laptop
[01:40] <ianorlin> ah
[01:40] <wafflejock> draggehn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[01:40] <jaydubzy> draggehn: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/MD5SUMS
[01:40] <jaydubzy> wafflejock: beat me to it :p
[01:40] <wafflejock> draggehn: one sec lemme check on img burn actually haven't used it in a minute but recalled it showing the md5 somewhere, thought it was just after an ISO was loaded
[01:41] <draggehn> jaydubzy: Now how do I check the md5 of the .iso? via command prompt?
[01:41] <Danato> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/Z6WR7ggA I had to copy it manually, I hope I ddnt make a typo
[01:42] <wafflejock> draggehn: winmd5
[01:42] <draggehn> wafflejock, jaydubzy: weird, I logged onto the guest account and the apps sidebar thing is working fine.
[01:42] <Danato> wilee-nilee: the problem is that im not getting in a chroot yet
[01:43] <travis_> draggehn, Hello
[01:43] <draggehn> Duel, hey.
[01:44] <wafflejock> draggehn: ah possibly something botched in your user config then (one of the . files or folders in your /home/user folder) not sure why this would happen with a fresh install though
[01:44] <Eliyahu> wafflejock how about ubuntu drivers for hp webcams such as the hp hd-2200 ?
[01:44] <Duel> draggehn, Is there a way to move tha panel on 13.10?
[01:45] <draggehn> wafflejock: it wasn't *REALLY* a fresh install; when updating from 13.04 via updater on ubuntu, something went wrong and wouldn't boot up (accidentally logged off in the middle of update heh.)
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I see that, so when you ran those commands the first time to get there, what was you command then to fix bash, it was an error, just curious, that chroot worked fine for me.
[01:45] <draggehn> I just kept data from previous install since I had sensitive data on there.
[01:45] <draggehn> wafflejock: see above
[01:45] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: not sure about the webcam drivers really all I can say is my Logitech QuickCam Orbit has worked in every version, but don't know the details
[01:45] <Eliyahu> wafflejock ok thanks
[01:46] <draggehn> wafflejock: where would the config files be? and how would I fix these?
[01:47] <Eliyahu> wafflejock better work for a 300$ webcamera
[01:47] <we6jbo> SchrodingersScat: I just found out this is called multiseat
[01:47] <Eliyahu> wafflejock rediculous that youd spend 300$ on that
[01:47] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: ok, looking into that
[01:47] <draggehn> wafflejock: I'll do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see if that fixes anything.
[01:48] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: I didn't pay $300 for a webcam http://www.pcplanetsystems.com/abc/product_details.php?category_id=21&item_id=1481 they have deals on em
[01:48] <Duel> Is there a way to move the Ubuntu Dock? Ive been looking and cant find anything on 13.10
[01:48] <Eliyahu> wafflejock :P
[01:48] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: although admittedly I've spent $300 on a speaker system but don't regret that :)
[01:48] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: still takes some kind of minimal workstation though?
[01:48] <draggehn> Duel: I can't check right now (or I would) because of my botched configs.
[01:48] <SchrodingersScat> we6jbo: or not, nvm.
[01:49] <Duel> draggehn, what happened?
[01:49] <draggehn> Duel, my sidebar isn't showing up :p
[01:49] <danato_> ok im on a computer now
[01:49] <draggehn> wafflejock suggested that my configs must be messed up, but I do not know how to fix this without doing a completely fresh install from disc.
[01:51] <danato_> wilee-nilee, i was doing the first set of commands , those to create a chroot http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/07/creating-chroot-ubuntu.html
[01:51] <wafflejock> draggehn: think you can just configure a new user account and migrate things over, generally speaking there are two places I've seen things like this go wrong, either the .xsession/ICEAuthority file (don't think it's that here) or something in your /home/username/.something files, making a new user will not have all of your previous configuration files in it, you can potentially migrate them over then and see which one causes the
[01:51] <wafflejock> problem but you may have many
[01:51] <dab> can anyone guess why i would have a python script that runs fine if i run it manually, but if i run it with the same command in an upstart its unable to make a network connection?
[01:51] <xangua> Duel: no way to move the launcher
[01:51] <dab> i was thinking it was a permissions issue but its running as root when upstart runs it
[01:51] <wafflejock> draggehn: if you're in ~ at the command line to ls -al to see hidden (dot) files
[01:51] <draggehn> wafflejock: I don't see any ".anything" files at /home/draggehn
[01:52] <danato_> wilee-nilee, and i got the error chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: Permission denied
[01:52] <wafflejock> draggehn: in most file explorers it's alt + . to show them
[01:52] <wafflejock> draggehn: there's definitely a bunch in there or something went really wrong
[01:53] <Danato> wilee-nilee, oh and the specific command was 'sudo chroot /mnt/temp'
[01:54] <draggehn> wafflejock: doing "Alt + ." brings up search (in nautilus)
[01:54] <Duel> Is GTK 2 or 3 on Ubunto 13.10?
[01:54] <wafflejock> draggehn: ah sorry, using dolphin right now thought it was the same
[01:54] <Danato> !chroot
[01:54] <wafflejock> might be alt+h can't recall
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> danato_, I am only slightly familiar with all the paths and dependencies, but unless that third line command, in the group of 5 line to do the chroot has a bash call I am confused where you have run it to get a error.
[01:55] <wafflejock> draggehn: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t7.htm Ctrl + H it says
[01:55] <Duel> How do I add another chat? liek CHannel
[01:55] <wafflejock> Duel: /join #someChannel
[01:55] <draggehn> wafflejock: got it just before I saw that :p
[01:55] <wafflejock> heh yeah sometimes you can just smash keys and get lucky :)
[01:56] <Duel> Ty
[01:56] <wafflejock> np
[01:56] <Eliyahu> wafflejock you think the : AMD Turion 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Processor TL- 60 (2.00GHz 1M) with 2 GB of ram is faster with ubuntu 62 than windows vista?
[01:56] <Danato> wilee-nilee, how did you do it?
[01:56] <Duel> Eliyahu, Its fast I just got on 13.10
[01:57] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: my guess is yes but my experience with Vista has never been positive
[01:57] <draggehn> wafflejock: so, which .files should I investigate?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I just ran all 5 commands by them selves making sure ths sdXX was actually sda7 on my computer, I just went o another linux install on the hd rather than from a live cd, virtual the same.
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> to*
[01:58] <Jordan_U> Kality: Did you see my question earlier?
[01:58] <wafflejock> draggehn: well that's the problem... not really sure what is causing it to fail but I'm just guessing it's something in there since the other guest user account works fine... you'll have to use check your syslog and maybe dmesg to see if you can track down what's causing it... alternatively make a new user account and one by one move over the . files that you want to try and re-use till you see which one fails
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I know vey little about bash, I have to wonder if you ran the commands wrong or what ever damage got you here may be blocking you.
[01:59] <Kality> Jordan_U, I'm vaping .. please repeat questuion .. thanx .
[01:59] <Danato> wilee-nilee, i replaced sdXY to sda4, which is where my ubuntu is installed and im on a live cd
[01:59] <draggehn> wafflejock: alright; I'll save that for tomorrow. Do you know the name of the process that creates the sidebar thing?
[01:59] <draggehn> wafflejock: maybe I can start it via terminal
[01:59] <Eliyahu> wafflejock  hows the security in ubuntu?
[01:59] <wafflejock> wafflejock: it's called the launcher generally but not sure about the actual proces
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Kality: If you select Tools> Codec Information, what codec does VLC is used for the video in the file?
[02:00] <Kality> for audio .. or video .. ,codec. ??
[02:00] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: you have to harden any system you want to be truly secure, in any linux distro there's quite a bit of software available for firewalls and the like (use iptables to interface with the built in one)
[02:01] <wafflejock> draggehn: * oops addressed me instead of you up there, but yeah pretty sure it's just the "launcher" though again not sure of the process/package name
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> Danato, so you had an error "failed to run command 'bin/bash' Permission denied" what exactly caused this, what command?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Kality: I specifically asked about video.
[02:01] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-security.html
[02:02] <Danato> wilee-nilee, sudo chroot /mnt/temp
[02:02] <Kality> ok .. so its the vuideo codec .. it uses two with a .mov .. you knowv ?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> Danato: What is the output of "ls -l /mnt/temp/bin/bash"?
[02:02] <Kality> **know
[02:02] <draggehn> wafflejock: Googled "ubuntu 13.10 launcher not working" or something to that effect, gonna try what a youtube video suggested.
[02:03] <Jordan_U> Kality: There are many possible video codecs that can be contained in a .mov container. Please follow the instructions I gave and tell me the information I asked for.
[02:03] <Danato> jordan_U: -rw-r--r-- 1 1000 1000 0 Nov 17 22:18 /mnt/temp/bin/bash
[02:03] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: if extreme security is a major concern a distro like Arch is probably more appropriate since it is completely stripped down and the less software you have the less possible vulnerabilities you have basically, that said you can make a pretty safe system with Ubuntu so long as you set appropriate permissions and use SSH and the like to secure communications
[02:03] <Jordan_U> Danato: Well, that's clearly wrong as /bin/bash should be executable. Any idea how this happened?
[02:04] <Eliyahu> wafflejock thanks for letting me pick your brain
[02:04] <Eliyahu> wafflejock ill try to relent with you tonight :OP
[02:04] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: np it's pretty fun or I wouldn't come in here to avoid working on bugs of my own :P
[02:05] <wafflejock> plus learn a lot from chatting in here and saying things and getting corrected or more/better advice
[02:05] <Kality> Jordan_U,  the container used for the video in a .MOV file is Motion Jpeg Video AKA " mjpa "
[02:05]  * Kality see's a Rabbit Hole :S         #random
[02:06] <Jordan_U> Kality: Please stop the offtopic comments.
[02:06] <Kality> Jordan_U,  the container used for the video in a .MOV file is Motion Jpeg Video AKA " mjpa "
[02:06] <Kality> satisfied ?
[02:06] <Danato> jordan_U: actually yeah, I was reading a tutorial and on an exercise they thought it was funny enough to ask ppl "create and delete a file with the name $SHELL". And i ddnt think about it much before i used "sudo cat > $SHELL"
[02:07] <selocol> Hi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu using a Live DVD. I got a blank screen, so I restarted using nomodeset, but I'm still getting a blank screen. I am able to get into the terminal using Ctrl+Alt+1. What should I do now? Thanks for any help.
[02:08] <Danato> Jordan_U, that should be why my /bin/bash got messed up, and I know, it was stupid. But is it fixable?
[02:08] <draggehn> wafflejock: fixed it!
[02:08] <wafflejock> draggehn: awesome what was it?
[02:08] <draggehn> wafflejock: had to re-enable the Unity plugin in ccsm
[02:08] <wafflejock> ah nice easy one
[02:08] <Jordan_U> Danato: Ahh, then "sudo chroot /mnt/temp/bin/sh" will get you a dash shell instead of bash, and you should be able to re-install bash from there (hopefully apt/dpkg don't depend on bash).
[02:08] <draggehn> wafflejock: http://askubuntu.com/a/76951
[02:10] <Duel> ,my dogs have no food
[02:10] <wafflejock> draggehn: wow well that's a bummer but good to know thx
[02:11] <Danato> jordan_U: chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/temp/bin/sh: Not a directory
[02:11] <selocol> Hi, I'm trying to install Xubuntu using a Live DVD. I got a blank screen, so I restarted using nomodeset, but I'm still getting a blank screen. I am able to get into the terminal using Ctrl+Alt+1. What should I do now? Thanks for any help.
[02:12] <Jordan_U> Danato: Sorry, "sudo chroot /mnt/temp/ /bin/sh"
[02:12] <draggehn> Alright, now that my problem's fixed, I'm gonna leave. Thanks wafflejock and jaydubzy!
[02:12] <draggehn> Good night!
[02:13] <wafflejock> draggehn: yup have a good one
[02:13] <Kality> Jordan_U, What are you doing with the .info I gave you , that you *specifically* request from myself ?
[02:13] <Duel> Why does it give an IP once they leave?
[02:14] <Duel> wafflejock, hey Does it matter what Theme I install for 13.10 Ubuntu?
[02:15] <wafflejock> Duel: no it shouldn't as far as I know... haven't played much with third party themes though, I switched to KDE in the last year but have only tweaked the theme to my liking in here
[02:16] <Duel> wafflejock, I just got on linux in the past 48 Hours. New incoming
[02:16] <wafflejock> Duel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133835/do-themes-slow-down-ubuntus-performance
[02:17] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah lots of the stuff you can just google "my question here"+ ubuntu and get a decent answer most of the time, beyond that if you get stuck just come here and explain your situation as detailed as you can
[02:17] <Duel> wafflejock, I got a error. Said cannot locate package
[02:18] <wafflejock> Duel: that means that none of your currently setup repositories for getting packages has whatever it is you told it to install
[02:18] <Duel> wafflejock, So I need to find the repository that has it?
[02:18] <wafflejock> Duel: if you give details on what you're trying to install and where you found the instructions for it I can probably help
[02:18] <Danato> jordan_U: yeah I got access now :) thats progress, but should "sudo apt-get --reinstall bash" be working?
[02:18] <wafflejock> Duel: generally speaking yeah
[02:19] <naz> ok last time ima ask hopefully someone can help, how do you set a primary monitor while using nvidsuckia?
[02:19] <Duel> wafflejock, Well I was just trying to install " MyUnity " and " Ubuntu-Tweak" because they are required.
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Kality: Looking up information on vlc's support for Motion JPEG. Did you get this file from a video camera? What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:20] <naz> wait a sec lemme rephrase the question, how do you get a primary monitor "working" while on linux and using nvidia?
[02:22] <bakemono> hey guys i'm asked to fix an old server at work running zfsonlinux which has a degraded disk, problem is the zpool status only tells me the list of disks in disk0, disk1 etc. not /dev/sda and so I can't find out which device disk16 which is the faulty disks corresponds to, anyone know how to find this out please? Thanks
[02:22] <Danato> jordan_U:  *"sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash" got it now :) thanks a lot
[02:23] <cfhowlett> !server|bakemono,
[02:23] <Kality> Jordan_U, Qu.1 yes .. a 16GB SDCard 14MP Camera (GE 2011 camera) with .MOV output (.mov) quicktime file extension output . Qu.2 I am running an updated 13.10 'daily-builds' standard Ubuntu with Unity DE .    .... OK ?
[02:24] <wafflejock> Duel: you should be able to get myunity with a regular sudo apt-get install since it's in the main repositories
[02:24] <dgarstang3> Anyone ever seen this? The link /dev/vg01/testvol01 should had been created by udev but it was not found. Falling back to direct link creation.
[02:24] <wafflejock> Duel: Ubuntu Tweak you would have to downoad the .deb file here http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[02:25] <wafflejock> Duel: then just click it to launch and it should launch the deb installer (basically like windows installer if you're familiar, just unpackages the .deb file for you and runs configuration from the program)
[02:25] <Duel> wafflejock, okay I will try
[02:26] <bakemono> nvm i figured it out
[02:26] <bakemono>  bye
[02:26] <Duel> wafflejock, Know why I have to right click open in browser for links to work?
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Kality: What do you mean by 'daily-builds'? Since 13.10 has been released, I'm assuming that you mean that you initially installed Ubuntu from a daily build beforeit was released, but I'm not sure.
[02:26] <wafflejock> Duel: just the nature of your IRC client I think
[02:27] <Kality> Jordan_U, Yes . correct .. but I call                                                                                bearD .
[02:27] <Duel> wafflejock, it was like that on #!, Mint, and This now
[02:27] <Kality> i.e. development branch Ubuntu ... that is .
[02:28] <Duel> wafflejock, Installing it now
[02:28] <Danato> jordan_U: I got lots of Permission denied errors http://pastebin.com/DmcYxqRs
[02:29] <Jordan_U> Kality: Please run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal and post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (and share the link to said output here).
[02:29] <Duel> wafflejock, How do I launch Ubuntu Tweak?
[02:30] <wafflejock> Duel: should show up in your launcher now if you hit Super/WinKey then type ubuntu tweak
[02:30] <Jordan_U> Danato: Unfortunately installing bash normally requires bash.
[02:31] <cfhowlett> jordan, Whoa, man!  You just, like, totally blew my mind!
[02:31] <Danato> jordan_U: is it possible to replace it with a bash from another system?
[02:31] <Duel> wafflejock,  Got it, Time to get themes now
[02:32] <pepee> does someone knows how to use pavucontrol in ubuntu?
[02:32] <pepee> seriously, it's driving me crazy...
[02:32] <pepee> how do you set the default output device?
[02:32] <pepee> kmix "just works", pavucontrol still doesn't, wth ubuntu?
[02:32] <Duel> wafflejock, that link you gave me, the themes link in the bio, Idk what it means
[02:33] <Duel> wafflejock, do i get to see em? https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/themes/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75 or I just add them and see what they are?
[02:33] <pepee> it seems to be using the HDMI output as default, which I'm not using right now
[02:34] <Jordan_U> Danato: Please pastebin the output of "find /-name '*bash*' /mnt/temp/var/cache/apt/archives/".
[02:34] <SchrodingersScat> Jordan_U: s,/-,/ -, ?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Danato: Sorry, that's completely wrong.
[02:35] <baegle> Just setup a Xerox Phaser 6010N as a network printer. Status seems fine. Test page claims it's making it to the job queue AND succesfully completing but the printer never prints the test page. It's just "ready". Anyone have experience with this?
[02:35] <Danato> Jordan_U, take your time
[02:36] <Kality> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/amhcYQ4S
[02:36] <Kality> ....
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Danato: Please pastebin the output of "find /mnt/temp/var/cache/apt/archives/ -name '*bash*'  ".
[02:37] <Danato> jordan_U: find: `/mnt/temp/var/cache/apt/archives/': No such file or directory
[02:38] <Jordan_U> Kality: Odd, according to https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/999 Motion JPEG should work in the version of VLC you're using. What happens if you try to play the file via Totem?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Danato: Your Ubuntu installation is mounted at /mnt/temp/, correct? Do you have a separate /var/ partition?
[02:40] <Duel> wafflejock, when I try and add sudo apt-get install attack-of-the-clones-gtk-theme It says package cannot be found
[02:40] <wafflejock> Duel: if you open MyUnity it has some built in packages
[02:41] <Duel> wafflejock, so ubuntu tweak wont work?
[02:41] <wafflejock> Duel: no just saying it's one way you can change your themes
[02:41] <Jordan_U> Danato: I don't know if just copying bash over will work, but we should be able to use dpkg -x to extract the file from your most recent bash package.
[02:41] <Danato> jordan_U: yes its mounted on /mnt/temp and i use ubuntu on sda4 if thats what you meant
[02:42] <wafflejock> Duel: if you find custom themes you need to follow their instructions for install though
[02:42] <wafflejock> attack-of-the-clones-gtk-them
[02:42] <TheLordOfTime> python's included with Ubuntu by default, right...?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Danato: Did you run the command I gave inside or outside of the chroot?
[02:42] <reisio> TheLordOfTime: hard to imagine otherwise
[02:42] <reisio> I think ccsm is python
[02:43] <Danato> jordan_U: I'm guessing inside, because im using the same dash terminal, and i ddnt quit anything
[02:43] <niftylettuce> I can't get HDMI detected on my Raring installation.  I have Intel stuff.  Any advice/drivers/installs I could do?  It's not detected in lspci or xrandr w/e.
[02:43] <Duel> wafflejock, https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/themes/+index?batch=75&direction=backwards&memo=75 how do I find intructions for any of the themes?
[02:44] <Jordan_U> Danato: From inside the chroot you'll need to remove the /mnt/temp from the path in that find command.
[02:46] <wafflejock> Duel: to add this repository to the stuff apt searches (your /etc/apt/source.list) use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/themes
[02:46] <wafflejock> Duel: then do: sudo apt-get update
[02:46] <wafflejock> that will get the new list of packages from current repositories
[02:47] <Danato> jordan_U,  /var/cache/apt/archives/bash_4.2-5ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[02:47] <wafflejock> then you should be able to just: sudo apt-get install packagehere
[02:47] <wafflejock> Duel: if you find themes on sites like DeviantArt or elsewhere though they may be accompanied with instructions to install the theme manually
[02:47] <Duel> I cant scroll up on this IRC Chat
[02:47] <Duel> Okay
[02:48] <Duel> WIll do
[02:48] <Duel> wafflejock, Is ALT+F2+r and Enter still reload graphics?
[02:48] <wafflejock> Duel: not sure about that one
[02:49] <wafflejock> Duel: generally speaking in Ubuntu upstart scripts and upstart are used to start and stop the main processes/services/daemons
[02:49] <wafflejock> Duel: so usually something like, sudo service lightdm restart, will do the trick
[02:49] <Kality> Jordan_U,  just installing totem this second !
[02:50] <baegle> I cannot wait to migrate from this distro
[02:50] <Duel> wafflejock, Im getting http://www.deviantart.com/art/elementary-Dark-GTK3-Theme-244257862 atm.
[02:50] <wafflejock> Duel: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a TTY if your graphics get too messed up, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back
[02:50] <Duel> wafflejock, Hold on check this out.
[02:52] <Duel> wafflejock, Check this out http://pastebin.com/y6yXtuGg ?
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Danato: mkdir /tmp/bash_extract/ && dpkg-deb -x /var/cache/apt/archives/bash_4.2-5ubuntu3_amd64.deb /tmp/bash_extract
[02:53] <Kality> Jordan_U, totem already installed on 13.10
[02:53] <Danato> jordan_U: done
[02:53] <xangua> Duel: so you are trying to install a gtk 3.4 theme in latest ubuntu...not gonna work
[02:53] <Kality> Jordan_U, Do you know how to Proceed if totem does not render the .mov File ?
[02:53] <wafflejock> Duel: not sure that this theme has a package for your system then
[02:54] <Duel> wafflejock,  Okay, Well what themes do? lol
[02:54] <Kality> Jordan_U, i.e. what to do next ?
[02:54] <wafflejock> Duel: basically this means the developer didn't make a .deb file compiled for your architecture you just have to see what it says in the comments basically, this guy says he ditched maintaining this
[02:54] <Jordan_U> Danato: That should give you (among other files) a /tmp/bash_extract/bin/bash. If so, try "cp /tmp/bash_extract/bin/bash /bin/bash", then run "bash" to test it, and re-install bash anyway for good measure.
[02:55] <Kality> Jordan_U, totem just gives an error message .. Saying " Cannot play this type of File ."
[02:55] <Jordan_U> Kality: It didn't offer to install additional codecs?
[02:55] <Kality> Jordan_U, No.
[02:56] <Kality> it didn't at all .
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Kality: Try joining #videolan and asking there.
[02:57] <Duel> wafflejock,  trying another theme
[02:57] <Duel> eyy I think it worked
[02:58] <Danato> jordan_U: since its taking a while, I'm guessing it is copying
[02:58] <Kality> Jordan_U, I know this is a 'friendly chit-chat' between ubuntu-omg users .. but  I CALL BEARD ON YOU .
[02:58] <Kality>  QnA session .. /join ubuntuQnAns. they said , it'll be Productive for AlmoST 2 hours !! they said !
[02:59]  * Kality grumbles :P
[03:00] <Kality> I weouldn't mind .. but it's 3 a.m. Here !!
[03:00] <Jordan_U> Danato: The extraction shouldn't take too long, if it's not done by now then it's likely something went wrong.
[03:00] <Kality> **wouldn't ..
[03:00] <Duel> wafflejock, Know of anything else cool I can do?
[03:02] <Kality> Jordan_U, Don't ignore me .. !!   ,  https://www.dropbox.com/s/666k2ylo8cp0wz3/2012-12-04b.jpg
[03:02] <Danato> jordan_U: was I supposed to use sudo on that?
[03:02] <wafflejock> Duel: depends on what you're into... I really enjoy playing with Blender (3D editing) but there is a learning curve to it, Hydrogen drum machine is fun if you're into making music, Audacity is also good for mixing tracks together and doing some basic editing... GIMP and/or Inkscape if you like drawing stuff... Pithos is good if you use Pandora, lots of good stuff out there just depends on what you like
[03:04] <cfhowlett> Duel, if you're a creative type, ubuntustudio has all KINDS of cool toys.
[03:04] <wafflejock> Duel: I personally mostly abandoned Unity at this point and went with a fresh Kubuntu install after having KDE side by side with Unity and deciding I liked it better... still have Unity in a virtual machine and XFCE in another just to play with everything
[03:04] <Duel> wafflejock, what about for customizing my desktop? this is mine currently http://imgur.com/5iAU48W
[03:05] <Guest6938> Hi, How can I install ubuntu/ubuntu touch on an MID A13 generic tablet????
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !touch|Guest6938,
[03:06] <wafflejock> Duel: I'm a web developer by trade so a lot of the stuff I put on here outside of enterataining myself is development... like I said in KDE land now... will post a shot of what I've got
[03:06] <icesvencn> hello
[03:06] <Guest6938> cfhowlett , no one answers there
[03:07] <Kality> Guest6938, Can you ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[03:07] <icesvencn> Is anyone here?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> Guest69055, then you'll just have to check back.  but if your device is NOT on the touch list ---
[03:07] <Guest6938> Thanks Kality!!
[03:07]  * Kality received 1st thought of thanks in weeks .
[03:08]  * Kality shrugs .
[03:08] <Duel> Okay this XChat isnt working well
[03:08] <Duel> I cant scroll up
[03:08] <icesvencn> hello,everyone,I'm from China,I need helps!Who can help me?
[03:08] <Duel> and Dont have settings or anything
[03:08] <wafflejock> Duel: http://i.imgur.com/Ci2Oc09.jpg
[03:08] <cfhowlett> icesvencn, ask you question
[03:08] <Duel> wafflejock,  :)
[03:08] <Kality> Guest6938: Da nada \o/
[03:08] <wafflejock> !cn | icesvencn
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Kality: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss your offtopic comments here.
[03:09] <Duel> Ubuntu is wierd, how if I open the internet there isnt the option in the internet box its like on the top
[03:09] <Kality> jordan_U, Are you part of the Ubuntu IRC team , or something ?
[03:10] <Jordan_U> Kality: Yes.
[03:10] <Danato> jordan_U,  it jst finished copying
[03:10] <Kality> Well then ...
[03:10] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah i wasn't a huge fan of the whole integrated top bar thing, also not a huge fan of the scope found it too distracting and unnecessary, in KDE can customize your panels more easily and has some cool "plasmoids" or widgets
[03:10] <icesvencn> I am a new user for ubuntu,even linux,I want to known how about the safety of this system?(My English is not very well,sorry)
[03:11] <wafflejock> Duel: Ctrl+L is helpful though for getting to that bar
[03:11] <cfhowlett> icesvencn, it's safe.
[03:11] <Danato> jordan_U: how do i test bash from here? I tried reinstalling and i got the same errors
[03:11] <cfhowlett> icesvencn, I can help on PM
[03:11] <Kality> Jordan_U, You *should* be well aware that Mr shuttleworth called for IRC operatives to be 'gracious' and not "&quote mean" about being on this channel .. Are you listening ?
[03:11] <icesvencn> I hate the windows sysytem
[03:11] <Duel> wafflejock, Not to sure if I like this integrated bar thing..
[03:11] <Kality> Jordan_U, He did this 3 weeks ago .
[03:12] <reisio> icesvencn: compared to Windows, Ubuntu will be incredibly more secure by default
[03:12] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah once i installed kubuntu and played with it for like an hour I decided to wipe my system and reinstall (SSD so strapped a bit for space and didn't want Unity anyhow)
[03:12] <Duel> wafflejock, Kubuntu you say
[03:12] <Duel> :)
 Thank you ! So I do not need to install any firewall or safety soft?
[03:13] <cfhowlett> icesvencn, there ARE users in #ubuntu-cn if you'd like to discuss in Chinese
[03:13] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah I suggest you install VirtualBox so you can install some other distros or desktop environments without messing up your main system
[03:13] <Kality> Jordan_U, Where are you on *this* List ? :: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-members/+members ::
[03:13] <Duel> wafflejock, I think i might have it already,
[03:13] <cfhowlett> icesvencn, ubuntu has a firewall built in, but it's not turned on unless you want it.  malware and viruses are extremely rare.
[03:13] <wafflejock> Duel: then once you settle on what you like just install that and if need be remove Unity or do a fresh install
[03:14] <wafflejock> Duel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[03:14] <Jordan_U> Kality: I have asked you nicely to stop the offtopic comments multiple times, I have then asked you nicely to join #ubuntu-ops. Please do so.
[03:14] <cfhowlett> icesvencn, where in China?  There's a Beijing Linux User Group ...
 My English is not very well ,but I can read ,I can improve my English here. How to turned on the firewall?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> !firewall|icesvencn,
[03:15] <linuxuz3r> !tunnel
[03:15] <Duel> wafflejock,  SO if I install one of these will it remove that like auto or integrated bar
[03:15] <Kality> Jordan_U, Please refrain from giving serious instructions about #ubuntu-ops .. And Answer My Previous Qustion.. Immediately and Forthwith .. ' where are you on list ' ??
[03:16]  * cfhowlett realizes he can NEVER be a mod because he doesn't have the patience for jackholes.
[03:17] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah none of the others have that, that I'm aware of... I've used KDE and XFCE recently, XFCE is very minimalistic (good for a GUI on a server if you want it), KDE is heavier and more feature rich.. MATE and cinammon were both okay but nothing that wowed me
[03:17] <Duel> wafflejock,  What about Gnome?
[03:17] <Jordan_U> cfhowlett: Calling people names doesn't help anything. Please don't.
[03:18] <ImTheDude> hello do they have other topics channels?
[03:18] <pogiako> does 12.04 have bluetooth?
[03:18] <pogiako> i think i may have to install bluetooth drivers
[03:18] <wafflejock> Duel: haven't used it in years, like since Ubuntu 6 or something, but think MATE is meant to the be basically retaining old Gnome
[03:18] <SchrodingersScat> ImTheDude: who is 'they'?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> jordan, noted
[03:18] <ImTheDude> IRC
[03:19] <Duel> wafflejock, Okay so Im either thinking Gnome, or the other 2 you said
[03:19] <SchrodingersScat> ImTheDude: you can find plenty on freenode, can search the channel lists or blindly try to /join #room and see if it exists.
[03:19] <Jordan_U> pogiako: Ubuntu 12.04 does have bluetooth support, but your specific bluetooth controller/device may not be supported. What type of bluetooth device are you trying to use, and how have you tried pairing it so far?
[03:20] <Duel> wafflejock, I also kind of like the dock tho.
[03:20] <pogiako> i havent paired it with anything yet
[03:20] <pogiako> maybe i do have to get drivers for it
[03:20] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah really it's worth it to do an install in virtual box (you just install virtual box with sudo apt-get install virtual-box) then you just hit new and walk through the wizard and hit start then it'll ask for an ISO, you give it the install ISO and go through the setup
[03:20] <wafflejock> Duel: it's worth it to have vbox installed to just test stuff and not botch your main system
[03:21] <cfhowlett> ^^^^ agree
[03:21] <pogiako> i cant pair with other devices even when other devices' bluetooth are on
[03:21] <Duel> wafflejock,  Ima try GNOME First where do I start?
[03:22] <Danato> jordan_U: i dont think it worked because I still cant reinstall batch, is there any other way to test?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> Danato: Did you run the cp command I gave, or just the dpkg -x one?
[03:23] <Danato> jordan_U i ran the cp command already
[03:23] <wafflejock> Duel: I have a guide I'm working on that walks through all the steps for setting up virtual box, would start there if you don't want to risk your system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qRYXSYyAunclSOr-iLhpHa7A88MQXrO04B0n8pQPmA/edit?usp=sharing
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Danato: What is the output of "ls -l /bin/bash" now?
[03:24] <Danato> jordan_U: -rw-r--r-- 1 danato danato 959168 Nov 18 10:55 /bin/bash
[03:24] <Duel> wafflejock, I have to restart for this to work?
[03:24] <wafflejock> Duel: if you're not concerned with that follow this http://askubuntu.com/questions/112958/gnome-shell-can-i-install-alongside-unity
[03:25] <wafflejock> Duel: no virtual box is just a program that contains another OS
[03:25] <wafflejock> Duel: that's the nice part, no need to reboot... bad part is it is not giving the guest OS (one running inside) complete access to the hardware
[03:26] <Duel> wafflejock, so what If i do like it?
[03:26] <Duel> what will i hav to do then
[03:26] <wafflejock> Duel: nothing necessarily if you want to reclaim the disk space from the other desktop environment you aren't using you can just delete the packages for it using sudo apt-get remove package
[03:26] <wafflejock> or if you want to get rid of all config too sudo apt-get purge package
[03:27] <Jordan_U> Danato: chmod 0755 /bin/bash && chown root:root /bin/bash
[03:27] <wafflejock> Duel: if you aren't concerned with the disk space you can just keep both options and you just pick at login which to run
[03:28] <Danato> jordan_U: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 959168 Nov 18 10:55 /bin/bash
[03:28] <Duel> wafflejock, well what If id only want to run Gnome?
[03:28] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah you'd just remove unity then.... I opted for just clean installing after backing up because I didn't want to deal with manually removing things and wasn't too far into configuring
[03:29] <Jordan_U> Danato: Looks good. Try running "bash" now.
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> Duel, There is a gnome only release, unity is a plugin in compiz running on gnome they share about 98%.
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> of gnome
[03:30] <Duel> wafflejock,  soo what does that mean
[03:30] <wafflejock> what I said or what wilee-nilee said?
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> !nounity | Duel
[03:30] <Danato> jordan_U: It Worked!! this feels like walking out of a hospital fully recovered, thanks a lot man :)
[03:31] <Duel> Im on the lastest ubuntu version
[03:31] <Jordan_U> Danato: You're welcome :) Still re-install bash for good measure.
[03:31] <Duel> wafflejock, Do I still need VB?
[03:32] <wafflejock> Duel: no virtual box is just an option so you can do a full OS install and run it as though it's an application within your OS, was just suggesting it to try things out
[03:32] <wafflejock> Duel: it's definitely not necessary for changing your actual desktop environment or any other packages
[03:33] <Duel> wafflejock, Just for testing out stuff kindove? :)
[03:33] <notsocivilized> hello guys
[03:33] <reisio> 'lo not
[03:33] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah just to throw caution to the wind and play with different OS/desktop options
[03:34] <Danato> going for a reboot, hopefully i wont have any trouble
[03:34] <Duel> wafflejock,  saying be careful right
[03:35] <notsocivilized> i'm having trouble with grub... I installed Ubuntu in my macbook air. With Ubuntu comes grub2... Then, Ubuntu works beautifully and all... But when i select Mac OS X in grub, it wont load. It stays in a purple screen forever...
[03:35] <wafflejock> Duel: eh just saying when you're new and trying a lot of stuff out and learning you might stumble, and easier to recover if it's just a virtual box machine that gets messed up... if you mess up the main OS it's more heartache
[03:35] <Duel> wafflejock, I can just go slow and copy/paste lines in to terminal tho?
[03:36] <Duel> well ones that i need to
[03:36] <wafflejock> Duel: yeah even so you may end up installing something that has a bug here or there... I'm not saying this happens often but you should be wary of which repositories you're adding and how reputable the source is
[03:37] <Duel> wafflejock, so I should re- look up the repository and then see if it works or?
[03:39] <wafflejock> Duel: well just good to see what's going on in the comments around a project and how many people are contributing/working on it and how recent work has been done... sometimes projects go stale and then you're more likely to run into problems you can't get help with
[03:40] <Duel> wafflejock, ooh. I know whatcha mean but now Im kindove sketched out if I mess up/.
[03:40] <wafflejock> Duel: well yeah that's why I'm saying go with installing Virtual box so anything that feels a bit sketchy you can at least try there first
[03:41] <wafflejock> Duel: generally if you find a stackoverflow.com or askubuntu.com question with an accepted answer for the same version of Ubuntu you have you're in good shape
[03:41] <wafflejock> Duel: and anything in the main repos is safe
[03:42] <wafflejock> Duel: but if you go out and just grab some package from some site you're putting your trust in whoever put out that package, I haven't had or seen any major issues but it's something to think about... same is true on any OS
[03:43] <Duel> wafflejock, I wanna get this dumb integrated thing outta here hahahaha
[03:44] <Duel> wafflejock, its not that bad, but its wierd, and gets annoying at times.
[03:45] <apb1963> I'm trying to update kde-plasma-desktop from 4.11.2 to 4.11.3 ...apt-get install tells me I already have the latest version but clearly I don't.  How can I get the update?
[03:46] <reisio> why clearly?
[03:46] <apb1963> because it says so?
[03:46] <reisio> it?
[03:47] <apb1963> About Kde
[03:47] <apb1963> Platform Version 4.11.2
[03:47] <apb1963> Copy & paste right there
[03:47] <xangua> !latest | apb1963
[03:48] <apb1963> OK but I would like the update... it proclaims to fix a bug I reported.
[03:48] <kaksddkf> hi all, i used paragon NTFS instead of native ntfs-3g and it provide me more than twice copying speed as compared to ntfs-3g , but the problem is that i want to mount my NTFS partitions in r/w mode by default without any command everytime, and to copy files in to NTFS partitions, i need to use gksudo command, which is somewhat annoying, anybody please tell me, how to automount partititions with these paragon drivers in R/W mode for me(i am the only user on th
[03:48] <apb1963> One that crashes the desktop
[03:48] <andrewpthorp> If I have a script in /etc/init, why doesn't it show up when I run `service --status-all` ?
[03:49] <andrewpthorp> (I'm not super familiar with upstart...yet )
[03:49] <apb1963> !ppa
[03:49] <andrewpthorp> Do I have to register it with upstart via initctl ?
[03:49] <boborobot> Hi, I'm stuck needing to record a video that will only play from a windows 8 application. Does anyone know of a decent video/audio screencast program for windows?
[03:49] <apb1963> !sru
[03:49] <apb1963> !backports
[03:49] <reisio> kaksddkf: automount on bootup, or?
[03:50] <apb1963> !packaging
[03:50] <Duel> wafflejock, okay Im going to get VB
[03:50] <Duel> wafflejock, I have the donwload already
[03:51] <kaksddkf> reisio: whatever, either at boot or i will like to mount them when i click their name in nautilus without sudo
[03:51] <Duel> wafflejock,  Go ahead and run it?
[03:51] <wafflejock> Duel: cool try following the guide I setup for the virtual box part, you can switch out the ISO for whatever you want
[03:52] <kaksddkf> reisio: problem is that when i click at partitions in nautilus(left pane); they get mounted but in read only mode
[03:54] <kaksddkf> reisio: also i think the drivers load to mount partitions, are native kernel drivers not paragon drivers, but when i mount some partitions with sudo command, they get mounted in my mentioned path and the speed is just awsome
[03:56] <kaksddkf> reisio: this would be awesome to mount them in r/w mode without supplying sudo command, like ntfs-3g do by default, but speed is too slow to live with
[03:56] <reisio> kaksddkf: what does 'mount' say about them when they're mounted the way you like?
[03:58] <andrewpthorp> What's the difference between `service --status-all` and `initctl list` ?
[03:59] <kaksddkf> reisio: i umount them first and then mount them with command mentioned in the paragon read me, and it just get mounted , but for normal user it is just a read only,owner ROOT because i mount them as root, using sudo command but without sudo command i am not able to mount them
[04:00] <kaksddkf> reisio: sudo mount -t ufsd /dev/sda5  /mnt/check/
[04:01] <kaksddkf> reisio: this command mounts ntfs partition sda5 into /mnt/check and it worked like a charm, but only read only mode, to get write access, i need to use gksudo nautilus and then perform operations
[04:02] <k`> im trying to add a shared folder
[04:02] <k`> how do I do it
[04:04] <k`> help
[04:04] <kaksddkf> reisio: how to add some line in /etc/fstab , but there is no line for ntfs partitions in /etc/fstab and they get mounted in r-w mode when i click them with ntfs-3g, now i have uninstalled ntfs-3g in a hope that paragon drivers will automatically take over , but this didn't happened
[04:04] <reisio> kaksddkf: what does 'mount' say about them when they're mounted the way you like?
[04:05] <kaksddkf> reisio: i didn't understand
[04:05] <kaksddkf> reisio: what to tell you? i didn't understand
[04:06] <kaksddkf> reisio: command completes successfully without any error, that's it
[04:06] <kaksddkf> otherwise, i am not a linux geek
[04:06] <kaksddkf> reisio: i just want to make my system better that it no way, lags behind windows
[04:06] <reisio> kaksddkf: paste the line to do with the mount point
[04:07] <kaksddkf> okay
[04:07] <reisio> well, it's lagging because you're using an ancient, foreign, poorly designed FS in a way it was never meant to be used :p
[04:08] <kaksddkf> sudo mount -t ufsd /dev/sda5  /home/kk/Desktop/check
[04:08] <reisio> kaksddkf: okay, ufsd is something you can use in /etc/fstab
[04:08] <kaksddkf> reisio: see above^^
[04:08] <reisio> as for plug-in mounting, you'd probably have to look through gvfs info
[04:08] <kaksddkf> reisio: hmm, but i never edited /etc/fstab
[04:09] <reisio> but you could
[04:09] <kaksddkf> reisio: gvfs info, where to look for
[04:10] <kaksddkf> reisio: how to mount them in r/w mode, with r/w access to me without sudo
[04:10] <reisio> dpkg -L gvfs
[04:12] <wizard_A> when i insert my usb drive i get the following syslog: http://pastebin.com/QAs07rzX
[04:12] <kaksddkf> reisio: thanks, i will read it, but  whether /etc/fstab  will give me write access like native ntfs-3g were providing
[04:13] <reisio> kaksddkf: has options for that
[04:13] <reisio> man fstab
[04:14] <roosterng> wizard are you trying to boot from it?
[04:15] <roosterng> nvm that question
[04:15] <roosterng> there might be something wrong with the usb, try re installing the os on the usb
[04:20] <thebombzen> Hello, I've got a filesystem problem
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !details|thebombzen,
[04:20] <wizard_A> no i'm trying to read from it, it wont mount as well
[04:20] <thebombzen> I accidentally shrunk a logical LVM partition without shrinking the underlying ext4 filesystem
[04:20] <thebombzen> sorry was typing
[04:21] <thebombzen> I only cropped a small part off the filesystem, but I'd rather not lose the rest of the filesystem. How can I recover the filesystem? I tried e2fsck -fy and resize2fs but neither worked
[04:22] <wizard_A> i already have ubuntu imstalled on my system, but when i insert a usb, led on usb goes up but usb does not show up in /media/
[04:22] <thebombzen> neither worked meaning they attempted to fix it but ran outside the partition and couldn't read or write outside
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> wizard_A, Not in the home panel?
[04:23] <wizard_A> nope
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> wizard_A,Can you mount it, have you looked at it with gprated to see any errors?
[04:25] <wizard_A> no
[04:25] <thebombzen> is there a way I can recover the rest of my filesystem given that I only cropped off a small part?
[04:27] <wizard_A> also mount -l gives: http://pastebin.com/N9AyU3uJ
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> wizard_A, what about sudo fdisk -l
[04:33] <wizard_A> shows nothing
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> wizard_A, You on a live cd/usb? no partitions at all?
[04:34] <wizard_A> on i'm on a dual partition
[04:35] <wizard_A> sorry i did not go sudo
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> wizard_A, pastebin it.
[04:38] <kevin> been asking this for awhile but no update, so gonna repeat: hey guys. so i recently upgraded from precise to saucy and now i've lost gcalctool... i have the package installed ("gcalctool is already the newest version.") but when i type gcalctool in my terminal, "The program 'gcalctool' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gcalctool" ... any ideas?
[04:38] <reisio> kevin: do what it says?
[04:39] <kevin> reisio: i do what it says and it says its already installed.
[04:40] <kevin> oh, it was renamed to gnome-calculator.
[04:40] <shagelito> kevin: reboot the sysem maybe ?
[04:41] <kevin> just created a symlink for it
[04:44] <thebombzen> can anyone help me with the filesystem error I mentioned above?
[04:46] <shagelito> Any one here to provide some help about a grub related problem ?
[04:47] <liu> can anyone help me with the filesystem error I mentioned above?
[04:47] <shagelito> looks like everybody is afk :/
[04:48] <cfhowlett> !patience
[04:52] <xirre> What would I have to set chmod to make A) A file and B) a folder only writable but not readable? o.O I'm reading up on chmod and I'm confused.
[04:53] <xirre> 222?
[04:53] <Ari-Yang> !chmod
[04:55] <superjoe> I just experienced a kernel panic and I don't know why. Is there a log somewhere I can check to learn more?
[04:55] <xirre> Already read it.
[04:55] <xirre> Which is why I'm here.
[05:01] <duoi> How do you guys feel about off-topic questions? :p
[05:02] <superjoe> pretty sure there's an offtopic channel for that
[05:02] <Mr_Midnight> #defocus is getting interesting
[05:05] <mnathani> Do I need to uninstall proprietary AMD Video drivers before installing a custom compiled kernel?
[05:05] <reisio> nope
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Mr_Midnight, Oh yes the pinnacle of erudite discourse.
[05:05] <reisio> probably need to reinstall them afterwards, though
[05:05] <mnathani> ok, thanks reisio
[05:09] <Duel> Hello
[05:09] <Duel> How do I connect to someone that i was disconnceted from
[05:10] <deego> Duel: IDk, call them up on the phone?
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> Duel, Ping their nick
[05:11] <Duel> whaa
[05:12] <lee__> guys .My terminal  PS1 is    lee@lee-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:~$         How to change it ?
[05:13] <YUKEY> 聊天
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> !cn | YUKEY
[05:15] <clipper> What's the best way to recover data from an external hard drive? I've messed up completely
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> clipper, In what way?
[05:18] <loonytree> So my ubuntu install is running really slowly. I recall someone telling me to reset something and it had fixed a previous install when it had this major lag issue.
[05:18] <loonytree> Anyone know what would fix this?
[05:18] <wheatthin> clipper, I'd start (without furthering destroying your disk) to make a clone image of the drive
[05:18] <wheatthin> then try a rescue on the img
 I somehow didn't back up my Documents folder, reinstalled (x)ubuntu and then realized I don't have the files, they used to be on the external hard drive but I think I deleted them before reinstalling the OS thinking that I was backing it up when I backed up the rest of the Home folder, somehow it got missed though
[05:20] <wheatthin> clipper, if it was overwritten, you're kinda out of luck
[05:21] <roosterng> That sucks. I hope it was stuff that is easily replaceable
[05:21] <clipper> wheatthin, I thought that might be the case
[05:21] <lee__> ok,it solves .just change .bashrc   PS1  var
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> clipper, Is that home backed up otherwise, say if you wanted to recover the original Documents.
[05:22] <clipper> Unfortunately not roosterng, 10 years of music (creation and production) projects and files mostly
[05:23] <ianorlin> make backups
[05:24] <roosterng> Dang :( that always sucks when that happens. Thousands of hours invested and then in 5 minutes destroyed
[05:24] <roosterng> I remember I once lost about 2 TB worth of data. I was so depressed
[05:24] <YUKEY> away
[05:25] <clipper> ianorlin, I did but somehow the one time I need a backup something was lost in the process. wilee-nilee, I didn't back it up as one whole folder, I already had some of it backed up in another directory (left over from windows backups) so I only manually backed up what I thought was missing
[05:25] <cfhowlett> roosterng, I killed only 50% of my digitally mastered music collection ...
[05:25] <YUKEY> 小白
[05:25] <cfhowlett> !cn|YUKEY,
[05:25] <clipper> yeah completely gutting
[05:26] <roosterng> Well that's good  at least you got to save some of it
[05:26] <clipper> oh well, more of an excuse not to be dependent on Windows programs in Wine I guess, a new start and all that
[05:27] <roosterng> Yeah, I try to stray away from windows programs. I usually go for open source programs
[05:27] <roosterng> Libre Office and Open Office are amazing, and I love google drive
[05:28]  * ianorlin used openoffice back on windows
[05:28] <clipper> yeah I've been trying to and generally I can but music production is very different in linux, I wouldn't say it's bad but it's conceptually very different
[05:29] <roosterng> Yeah, I like to do graphical stuff like using blender and gimp and I find it fairly easy
[05:30] <roosterng> One problem that I am having in ubuntu 12.04 is that if I try to use the latest driver my system crashes when I restart the computer
[05:30] <roosterng> So I have to use the older driver
[05:30] <cfhowlett> roosterng, driver?  kernel?
[05:30] <roosterng> I am using Nvidia Geforce 310m
[05:31] <roosterng> im gonna get the kernel for you 1 sec
[05:32] <loonytree> Can anyone help me determine why my ubuntu install is lagging so much? It just stalls a ton, and once a kind person in here helped me fix it by resetting something. Perhaps it was resetting unity? I looked up a reset on unity and what i did didnt fix the lag. Im thinking he told me to do something else.
[05:32] <ianorlin> how many programs are you running?
[05:32] <roosterng> This is my kernel? I think I used the uname -arv command
[05:32] <roosterng> Linux roosterng 3.8.0-33-generic #48~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 24 16:28:06 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:32] <loonytree> zero programs. The lag is present right from boot
[05:32] <clipper> I have a similar issue roosterng, my amd graphics card keeps me stuck in 12.04 and does crazy stuff with my fans if I use the open source driver so I have to be careful about what I update
[05:32] <loonytree> even when i type in my password it takes forever for it to just load the desktop and log in
[05:32] <Crimson_Rogue> running ubuntu 13.10; extremely slow video buffering. Any fixes for this?
[05:33] <ianorlin> um graphics card loneytree and how much ram
[05:33] <loonytree> its built into the laptop, not sure
[05:33] <loonytree> either way its not a hardware issue
[05:33] <loonytree> I had this problem before and someone gave me a command and it totally fixed everything
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> ianorlin, install htop and check whats running and see how much memory and cpu is being used when it lags.
[05:33] <Hilikus> can someone tell me how to speed up my bootup? here is the bootchart
[05:33] <Hilikus> http://i.stack.imgur.com/B8YwB.png
[05:33] <roosterng> Yeah it's weird in 12.04, I can run the latest driver just fine in 13.10 but in 12.04 I have to run the older driver
[05:33] <clipper> Crimson_Rogue do you have a torrent client open, even if you're not downloading anything?
[05:33] <Hilikus> i don't know how to analyze the image
[05:34] <Crimson_Rogue> no torrent clients open on the network, nothing is seeding/uploading or Downloading
[05:34] <cfhowlett> Crimson_Rogue, auto updates?
[05:35] <Crimson_Rogue> auto updates are disabled cfhowlett
[05:35] <clipper> I had an issue once, I could have no torrents uploading/downloading but default settings for connections was killing my router, just thought I'd ask
[05:36] <Crimson_Rogue> yeah, I know the torrent clients do kill bandwidth
[05:36] <roosterng> I don't know if this is like it for everyone but I have 2 laptops one is 64bit the other is 32. I find that if I install 64 bit Ubuntu on my 32 bit machine I find that I lag quite a bit, but when I put 32 bit Ubuntu on the 32 bit machine it works fine. Don't  know if that is whats happening to you crimson_rogue
[05:37] <cfhowlett> roosterng, 64 will never run well on 32.
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> roosterng, You can't put 64 bits on a 32 bit computer
[05:37] <Crimson_Rogue> I have a 32 bit machine with ubuntu 32 bit installed (aka i686)
[05:37] <genii> cfhowlett: Hehe
[05:37] <Crimson_Rogue> well, you can.... but it won't work well
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> show me one that boots
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> evn the cd
[05:38] <Crimson_Rogue> the computer will work too hard unnessecarily...
[05:38] <Crimson_Rogue> okay wilee-nilee; you've heard of virtualbox right?
[05:38] <roosterng> Yeah I made the mistake of putting 13.10 64 bit on my 32 bit machine, I ended up downloading 32 bit
[05:38] <genii> wilee-nilee: You can actually run a 64bit emulator on a 32bit machine and install to that. But craptons of overhead
[05:38] <Crimson_Rogue> supports 32 bit... but doesn't support 64 bit os, correct?
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> Crimson_Rogue, Thats not the same and I doubt you can there either.
[05:39] <Crimson_Rogue> wilee-nilee, I have done it.
[05:39] <evilwombat> Greetings. I am trying to get Hibernation support working with an Ubuntu x86-64 system. It seems like I have swap working and the machine suspends, yet when resuming, the system boots normally rather than resume from swap. It seems that grub isn't passing 'resume=/dev/sdxxx' to the kernel. Before I hack up grub.cfg, is there a "proper" way to get update-grub and friends to add the 'resume=' option to the autogenerated grub config?
[05:39] <Crimson_Rogue> evilwombat: try google?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> Crimson_Rogue, You say you have, that is your statement and you back peddling from a basic argument that never included a VM.
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> your*
[05:40] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, already did. SNR was quite low, so I came here.
[05:40] <Crimson_Rogue> okay, sec...
[05:42] <Crimson_Rogue> Yes screen -r  will resume the previous session
[05:42] <evilwombat> Most hits are from Arch Linux and friends, and they use different systems for config management. I'd like to try things the "nice" ubuntu way before resorting to config hackery. I've already tested manually passing resume=/dev/sda3 to the kernel via grub and hibernation works - now just have to get the config properly updated
[05:42] <Crimson_Rogue> note: this is olde
[05:42] <Crimson_Rogue> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/29/%23ubuntu.html
[05:43] <Crimson_Rogue> evilwombat: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:43]  * ianorlin is using lubuntu 13.10
[05:43] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, I'm on 12.04 LTS
[05:44] <macsplean> anybody know how to change the user in bash? it's right now postgres@macsplean and i want it to me macs@macsplean
[05:44] <Crimson_Rogue> evilwombat: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1978290
[05:44] <maum_> hello, I compiled gcc4.6.3 source successfully, and I copied the source to another named folder and recompiled it but it still searching for previous path while make time. how can I fix this problem?
[05:45] <genii> macsplean: You're logged in as the user postgres ?
[05:45] <macsplean> genii: im trying to set up postgres. it was a mistake
[05:45] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, that does not appear to be relevant to my problem
[05:45] <dita> anda bermasalah dengan kartu kredit/KTA?? Kami bantu dibebas bayarkan hub. Dita 02190409949
[05:45] <genii> macsplean: If you used su to get there, just use: exit
[05:45] <macsplean> genii: thanks!
[05:46] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, my suspend functionality is working fine. It is my hibernation that is busted, because the bootloader is not telling the kernel the name of the swap partition containing the resume image. Peeking at /etc/grub.d/ reveals references to /var/vm/sleepimage, but I haven't found much documentation on this
[05:46] <genii> !id | dita
[05:47] <Crimson_Rogue> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume evilwombat?
[05:47] <evilwombat> seems like there ought to be another grub.d item to look in /proc/swaps and add this as a candidate resume option when regenerating grub.cfg
[05:48] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, interesting. That makes a reference to a resume option by UUID, but I haven't seen any hooks in grub.d/ that invoke this. I'll dig a bit deeper there. Thanks.
[05:49] <Crimson_Rogue> it has hibernate debugging steps there too.. figured it might be worth a shot
[05:49] <evilwombat> Thanks
[05:49] <Crimson_Rogue> you don't by chance have an nvidea card, do you evilwombat?
[05:50] <Crimson_Rogue> *nvidia
[05:50] <evilwombat> Noone seems to really care about hibernation these days. My laptop has an odd mechanical problem where the battery connection glitches and all power is temporarily lost, so it's hibernate for me until they replace it
[05:50] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, I do, actually
[05:50] <Crimson_Rogue> have you installed nvidia-current through synaptic?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:51] <Crimson_Rogue> http://askubuntu.com/questions/127253/suspend-and-resume-not-working-on-an-hp-dv7 @ evilwombat
[05:51] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, Hmmm. I seem to be on nvidia-319, whereas nvidia-current pulls in 304. Regardless, this problem is not with the nvidia card, but with the bootloader
[05:52] <evilwombat> My problem is a very silly and very isolated grub thing. If there is no "clean" solution, I'll just manually patch it. But I thought with ubuntu there were all sorts of nice and clean ways of managing the configs
[05:52] <evilwombat> not that I mind hacking it up ;)
[05:52] <eoss> Any reason why sound would just randomly stop working? I log in as another user and sound works fine.
[05:53] <Mr_Midnight> I have a question... I installed Ubuntu, then I added the XUbuntu interface so I could have a second boot option... but now when I boot my system I get the XUbuntu splash screen... can that be changed back to ubuntu?
[05:53] <eoss> I followed this and it didnt fix my problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[05:53] <Duel> has anyone went from Ub untu onto Kdm?
[05:53] <Crimson_Rogue> are you sure it's not the uswsusp or TuxOnIce evilwombat?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> eoss: anything unusual in /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[05:53] <Crimson_Rogue> are you positive it's the kernel @ evilwombat?
[05:54] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, positive. Checked the kernel commandline, and didn't see a resume option. Added one manually and it started working. But I don't want to type the option out each time I reboot.
[05:54] <evilwombat> or rather, resume
[05:55] <Crimson_Rogue> okay, so resume option not avaliable in kernel
[05:55] <evilwombat> resume option not passed to kernel
[05:55] <evilwombat> Oh well. If there's no clean answer, I'll just manually add one to grub.cfg.
[05:55] <evilwombat> thanks for the help
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Midnight: whats your ubuntu version?
[05:57] <Gorroth> i'm on ubuntu 13.10 in my VMs
[05:57] <Mr_Midnight> 13.10
[05:57] <Crimson_Rogue> do you have cryptsetup installed evilwombat?
[05:57] <eoss> lotuspsychje:  kernel: [   28.188222] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
[05:58] <eoss> then it says pulse audio daemon already running
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Midnight: i think when you install xubuntu, it thinks you gonna use it as default, so you need to uninstall xubuntu or install a program to change bootslash screens
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> eoss: did you try a pulse audio restart?
[05:59] <Mr_Midnight> lotuspsychje: so maybe if I reversed it and installed Xubuntu and then installed the Ubuntu-desktop package it would change to Ubuntu and do what I want?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Midnight: did you uninstall ubuntu after installing xubuntu-desktop?
[06:00] <Mr_Midnight> no
[06:01] <ola2> does a file in tmp folder need permission to be read or write
[06:01] <ola2> ??
[06:01] <eoss> lotuspsychje: just tried it didnt work. o.O    I restarted too.....when I log in you hear that login audio but once im logged in audio stops
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Midnight: try logout to xubuntu, and choose ubuntu from login window see if it changes your splash
[06:01] <Crimson_Rogue> evilwombat: Check for Broken Packages in synaptic
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> eoss: and creating a fresh user fixes your audio?
[06:01] <Mr_Midnight> lotuspsychje: I have done that and it keeps the xubuntu splash but defaults to the ubuntu unity login
[06:01] <eoss> lotuspsychje: not even a fresh user, but just logging in as an old user fixes audio, yes
[06:01] <Duel> unpacking files kdm-full
[06:01] <Duel> taking forver!
[06:02] <evilwombat> Crimson_Rogue, thanks - no need. I think I've got this figured out - just added the resume option to /etc/default/grub and the config now looks good. Will test it out shortly. Good night
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Midnight: you wanna keep using xubuntu? if not uninstall will fix it i think
[06:03] <Duel> I like gtg asap and this unpacking files taking to long
[06:03] <Mr_Midnight> lotuspsychje: I like using both at different times... I can live with the splash just figured I would ask and see if there was a solution though
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Midnight: there are several tools for changing bootsplash, never tryed them myself
[06:05] <Mr_Midnight> lotuspsychje: I have it loaded on a small 32 GB flash drive so that I can boot any computer with it for troubleshooting or just to use my personalized environment as needed which isn't too often and like I said I can live with the splash the way it is but thanks for the ideas
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !info plymouth | Mr_Midnight
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Mr_Midnight: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-change-boot-screen-theme-ubuntu-13-04/
[06:07] <Mr_Midnight> ubottu and lotuspsychje: Thanks for the info :D
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> np
[06:07] <eoss> lotuspsychje: Nov 18 01:02:36 EternalSilence pulseaudio[7149]: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[06:08] <Duel> OOOMMMGGG
[06:09] <Duel> Is there anyway I can stop Setting these things up and wait till tomorrow?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> eoss: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/186822/audio-stopped-working-suddenly-in-12-04
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> Duel: plz use this channel for actual questions
[06:10] <eoss> lotuspsychje: thats what i just tried, turned everything on in alsamixer still nothing
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> eoss: how about deleting that .pulse from from /home/user and logout
[06:12] <eoss> k
[06:15] <eoss> lotuspsychje: that worked, but now i can't adjust sound at all. top right corner sound icon won't let me adjust it
[06:15] <eoss> dunno if that was messing with alsamixer or deleting pulse file
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> eoss: maybe try the alsamixer now
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> see what it does
[06:20] <eoss> lotuspsychje: able to figure out how to default alsamixer config..so its not that
[06:21] <eoss> meh, when in doubt, reboot
[06:23] <johnflux> I upgraded to ubuntu 13.10  but now don't have the glx extension
[06:23] <johnflux> It's an intel graphics chip
[06:23] <johnflux> any ideas how to fix?  I've been googling without much luck
[06:24] <eoss> lotuspsychje: reboot worked. thank you for the help man
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> !yay | eoss
[06:24] <eoss> yea that was weird..i wonder what caused that..ill never know lol
[06:38] <shagelito> Greetings #debian. I have this dumb problem : i tryed to get over the live cd version and choose to set up a dual boot with w8. I played for like 48hrs, then while messing arround with the grub ( i cant even tell you what i did ..) it looks like i broke the whole thing. I can no longer boot neither with w8 or linux. Exept threw grub2 cd
[06:38] <shagelito> oops. greetings #ubuntu *
[06:39] <cfhowlett> shagelito, if the install went properly, your ubuntu is likely still present.
[06:40] <shagelito> cfhowlett: yep im running it atm !
[06:40] <cfhowlett> shagelito, so reinstall grub ...
[06:40] <cfhowlett> @grub
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !grub
[06:40] <shagelito> its only a silly boot problem. But my 48h linux experience make it really hard to handle
[06:41] <shagelito> i tryed ! thats how i made w8 unbootable, even via a grub2 cd
[06:41] <cfhowlett> shagelito, understood.  fixing it is fairly easy.  follow the link instructions
[06:41] <kaksddkf> hi all how to mount a NTFS partition with rw access to all users
[06:42] <maum_> I compiled gcc4.6.3 source successfully, and copied it to another named folder. and recompiled it. but it still searching for previous path for make. does anyone have an idea?
[06:42] <shagelito> wich one please ?
[06:42] <kaksddkf> i tried many things, but no success, like sudo mount -t ufsd /dev/sda5 /home/xyz/Desktop/ -o umask=000
[06:43] <kaksddkf> only ROOT is the owner and root has write access, i need both read and write access , without messing with commands, like just click on nautilus left pane, and that's it.
[06:44] <kaksddkf> is there any way to do that
[06:44] <kaksddkf> there should be a way to do that, i recently uninstalled NTFS-3G and these drivers are horribly slow
[06:44] <kaksddkf> i installed paragon NTFS drivers and they worked like a charm, but the only problem is that, read only
[06:45] <kaksddkf> how to solve that problem ^^
[06:49] <shadytv> kaksddkf, forgive me as im not very experience in this matter but couldnt you just chmod the permissions of the drive?
[06:50] <helmut_> hi
[06:51] <decimal_> any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted?
[06:51] <decimal_> resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-root
[06:51] <decimal_> resize2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[06:51] <decimal_> The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!
[06:51] <FloodBot1> decimal_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <wheatthin> !paste
[06:53] <wheatthin> !paste | decimal_
[06:54] <decimal_> wheatthin wow. much helpful. very paste. so useful.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !attitude|decimal_,
[06:56] <cfhowlett> helmut_, greetings.
[06:56] <decimal_> two useful posts in a row. I must be on a roll
[06:57] <cfhowlett> decimal_, I think we can all agree that sarcasm will not get you the help you seek.
[06:58] <decimal_> I do wonder if people make such inanae reponsese because they have no idea how to answer the question properly.
[06:58] <wheatthin> decimal_, we are just trying to help us help you, so enough sarcasm.
[06:58] <decimal_> you saw my question, so go to town
[06:58] <wheatthin> lol with that I'll ignore.. thanks
[06:58] <cfhowlett> ^^^^
[07:01] <ready> hi
[07:01] <deper29> maum_: use gcc-config
[07:01] <CADBOT> blackscreen after logging in, attempted to install a new video driver and probably broke something, any quick way to roll back?
[07:02] <deper29> CADBOT: did you try using the nomodeset flag in grub?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|CADBOT, run nomode and reconfigure?
[07:02] <CADBOT> I'll give that a go
[07:02] <decimal_> any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted? it appears that resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-rootn doesn't work (i.e. The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!)
[07:02] <CADBOT> thanks!
[07:03] <CADBOT> I'm running AMD proprietary drivers if that makes a difference
[07:03] <deper29> CADBOT: you could try the open source drivers and see if that makes a difference
[07:04] <CADBOT> That's what I was running before. Performance wasn't good enough.
[07:04] <deper29> CADBOT: and that is the downside of the opensource ones :(
[07:05] <wheatthin> CADBOT, even though it's totally not needed, you could generate your own xorg.conf file via driver, and see if that helps
[07:06] <wheatthin> CADBOT, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:07] <CADBOT> It's AMD not Nvidia
[07:07] <CADBOT> I'm running /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh right now
[07:08] <wheatthin> why?
[07:08] <CADBOT> To try and reinstall them
[07:08] <wheatthin> Did it fail during install?
[07:08] <wheatthin> I guess you can try, but I don't think it'll help.
[07:08] <decimal_> any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted? it appears that resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-rootn doesn't work (i.e. The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!)
[07:09] <CADBOT> Yeah, before I installed these drivers things were working (although slowly lol). after I installed AMD catalyst and rebooted
[07:09] <CADBOT> The login screen shows up fine
[07:09] <CADBOT> but then after I log in it's black screen
[07:09] <CADBOT> So I'm bringing up a ctrl alt f2 terminal
[07:10] <wheatthin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:10] <wheatthin> ahh that's where you went wrong, you didn't use Ubuntu's repo for installation.. so go ahead and uninstall and use ubuntu's repo
[07:10] <CADBOT> Is the version in that repo new enough?
[07:11] <wheatthin> Do you have the latest ati card or something?.. and it should be.
[07:12] <CADBOT> after that uninstall I'm back into my desktop ok
[07:12] <CADBOT> I'll try installing through the repo
[07:12] <CADBOT> thanks btw!
[07:12] <wheatthin> yup
[07:14] <maum_> deper29: -bash: gcc-config: command not found
[07:14] <decimal_> any idea why I'd be getting the following when trying to expand my virtualbox vm to take up the extra 14gb I just allocated with gparted? it appears that resize2fs /dev/mapper/devobox01--vg-rootn doesn't work (i.e. The filesystem is already 1764352 blocks long. Nothing to do!)
[07:15] <CADBOT> Hahaha
[07:15] <CADBOT> I think my prlbem last time was I didn't generate a new xorg.conf before booting
[07:15] <CADBOT> *problem
[07:16] <CADBOT> Any thoughts on the low latency kernel?
[07:16] <CADBOT> What are the tradeoffs when using it
[07:18] <wheatthin> no clue :)
[07:19] <CADBOT> Just curious XD
[07:19] <cfhowlett> CADBOT, if you are creating music and need to avoid the processing lag during recording, the low latency kernel is for you.  otherwise, no ...
[07:19] <cfhowlett> CADBOT, more in #opensourcemusicians and #ubuntustudio
[07:20] <CADBOT> I was also asking about it in the #ardour channel
[07:20] <CADBOT> And yep, it was for music purposes
[07:20] <CADBOT> However, I also use my system for other things like gaming, so  I want to make sure it wouldn't harm me there
[07:21] <CADBOT> I'll ask in those channels though, thanks!
[07:21] <ola2> plz i want to know something
[07:21] <cfhowlett> CADBOT doubt that it'll harm, don't see how it'd help
[07:21] <ola2> does tmp foder allow file permissions
[07:21] <CADBOT> I want it to help with audio recording
[07:21] <CADBOT> I don't expect it to help at all with gaming
[07:22] <CADBOT> Just want to make sure it won't harm it :)
[07:24] <wizard_A> sudo fdisk -l gives: http://pastebin.com/wrPkUS5w
[07:25] <wizard_A> problem is pen drive wont read while led glows
[07:27] <wheatthin> wizard_A, is it mounted?
[07:27] <figuringout> im trying to set up a ubuntu server for about 20 kids -- i want them to be able to ssh in, and make basic HTML pages. i have their usernames created -- how do i enable ssh for each one of them?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !server
[07:28] <wizard_A> no
[07:28] <wheatthin> figuringout, just create individual standard user accounts
[07:28] <milamber> figuringout: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:29] <figuringout> milamber: so once the standard user accounts exist and openssh-server is installed, these users should be able to ssh in normally?
[07:29] <wheatthin> and then do what milamber suggested
[07:29] <wheatthin> rgr
[07:30] <milamber> figuringout: then you can look up how to customize the server and set up what are essentially links so that students can have a directory that is available from the web, something along the lines of www.yourserver.com/~loginname
[07:30] <milamber> figuringout: you will have to open the ports for your server to have access from the outside if you want them to be able to work from home
[07:31] <figuringout> milamber: i'm unable to ssh with openssh running, im running this ubuntu instance on amazon AWS, wondering if there's some setting that that's screwing this up.
[07:31] <figuringout> how do i open up ports?
[07:32] <milamber> figuringout: you are going to have to be more specific, what do you mean by unable?
[07:32] <aeon-ltd> figuringout: using your firewall
[07:32] <wheatthin> figuringout, I'd do a port scan and see if port 22 is open.
[07:32] <figuringout> Permission denied (publickey)
[07:32] <wheatthin> ahh
[07:32] <figuringout> im doing ssh user@ec2server
[07:32] <wheatthin> I guess you gotta import the publickey
[07:33] <figuringout> wheatthin: i dont want the kids to have to deal with key-based access, any ideas on how to set that up? i just want to assign them plaintext passwords
[07:35] <milamber> figuringout: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/AccessingInstancesLinux.html
[07:35] <wheatthin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[07:35] <figuringout> milamber / wheatthin: thanks, on it. lets see how this goes
[07:36] <mnathani> whats an actively developed visual grub editor I can use these days?
[07:36] <milamber> figuringout: check back in if you have troubles, just be aware that we will ask exactly what you did to get where you are
[07:36] <kubanc> how can i put this command into .sh file so i can run it: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[07:37] <wizard_A> this is the log that i get while i insert usb drive http://pastebin.com/ReAYzHKX
[07:38] <wheatthin> kubanc, you can echo it into it
[07:39] <kubanc> wheatthin, you're saying echo "command"
[07:39] <wheatthin> yup
[07:40] <floatingpoint> how would I go about resizing a partition?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !gparted|floatingpoint, gparted
[07:40] <floatingpoint> sorry cfhowlett. gparted won't work in this case. I have a nested partition on SDA5 that gparted doesn't see
[07:41] <floatingpoint> I'm nor sure if it helps, but the TYPE is lvm
[07:42] <figuringout> no luck folks :( I changed the sshd_config to "PasswordAuthentication yes". still getting Permission denied(publickey)
[07:43] <figuringout> also restarted ssh server
[07:43] <ariel__> Some ppl here user buntun 12.04 lts on Asus EEE PC 1225 C ?..
[07:43] <ariel__> Some ppl here user ubuntu 12.04 lts on Asus EEE PC 1225 C ?..
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !anyone|ariel__,
 re-install SSH
[07:44] <figuringout> greyhatpython: that's the same thing as reinstalling openssh-server?
[07:44] <ariel__> OK thanks..
[07:44] <greyhatpython> yes
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936875
[07:45] <ariel__> I'm ubuntu 12.04 lts user on Asus EEE PC 1225 C..and i got problem with graphics card..unknow result...
[07:47] <ariel__> does anybody have experienced with graphics card Asus EEE PC 1225 C on ubuntu 12.04 lts here ..??
[07:47] <floatingpoint> well
[07:47] <Piper|Away> do asus EEE's have gpu's? and of what ilk? Im guessing your problem would be driver related Ariel
[07:47] <bazhang> ariel__, please give us the exact card, your exact issue, what problems you are having with it
[07:48] <floatingpoint> wow. so usless. much nerd. many neckbeard.
[07:48] <ariel__> yes Piper|Away ...here 2 Additional Driver but not yet active..
[07:48] <figuringout> greyhatpython: that seemed to do it, tx! now passwords are not working, sigh.
[07:49] <ariel__> drm driver for the intel GMA500 and intel Cedarview graphics  driver ..? which one should be match..?
[07:49] <figuringout> is there any sort of web-based control panel to manage this process? of managing a webserver, allocate users space, etc
[07:50] <Piper|Away> Driver overview
[07:50] <Piper|Away> This page details support for the Intel GMA500 "Poulsbo" video hardware with Ubuntu 12.04 and higher.
[07:50] <Piper|Away> Unfortunately the support for this hardware is extremely limited on Linux. There are several drivers, but all lack certain basic features, such as future and current maintenance or support for suspend and hardware acceleration.
[07:50] <Piper|Away> Currently, the best supported driver for Ubuntu is gma500_gfx.
[07:50] <Piper|Away> For obsolete and unsupported drivers see GMA500 Obsolete Drivers
[07:50] <ariel__> Hi..anybody here from indonesian too ?, im from Batam
[07:50] <FloodBot1> Piper|Away: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <Piper|Away> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo
[07:51] <bazhang> !id | ariel__
[07:51] <Piper|Away> ariel >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo
[07:51] <Piper|Away> not looking good my friend
[07:51] <Piper|Away> but GL
  what's the error?
[07:53] <figuringout> just that the password is incorrect,i.e. it just asks me for a new password
[07:53] <greyhatpython> ok give a new password
[07:54] <figuringout> i checked the /etc/shadow file and the password i'm typing is correct
[07:55] <figuringout> root seems to be able to ssh in fine now, just the new users that are a problem
[07:55] <wheatthin> /etc/shadow won't give you the password.
[07:56] <greyhatpython> May be hashed and checked it
[07:57] <figuringout> greyhatpython: i just created these 20 users using the useradd command, so i know the passwords.
[07:57] <figuringout> i'm wondeirng if i shoudl delete all uesrs and start again
[07:58] <wheatthin> figuringout, just reset their passwords
[07:58] <greyhatpython> yeah reset!
[07:58] <figuringout> wheatthin: what does that mean? how to do that?
[07:58] <wheatthin> figuringout, sudo passwd <username> <password>
[07:59] <geirha> figuringout: don't use useradd(1) to create users, use adduser(1) instead
[07:59] <figuringout> geirha: i actually wanted to use "newusers" -- but it would give me a baad malloc memory crash error everytime i gave it a file that was more than one line long
[08:01] <geirha> figuringout: wow, sounds like a serious bug with newusers
[08:01] <shagelito> greetings #ubuntu. I screwed up my dualboot. i'm a 48hrs linux user, so everything looks a bit weird to me. I would like to be able to boot properly, some help would be greatly appreciated.
[08:01] <wheatthin> figuringout, did you try and use a semicolon for a seperator instead?
[08:02] <figuringout> wheatthin: no, let me try right away actually
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> shagelito:  describe it the best you can
[08:05] <figuringout> wheatthin: no luck -- "invalid line"
[08:06] <figuringout> and with ":" im getting core dump. going back to useradd / adduser :p
[08:07] <wheatthin> lol ok was just a suggestion.
[08:08] <wheatthin> but yeah you can change each user's password with   sudo passwd <username> <newpass>
[08:08] <figuringout> no luck btw, deleted all users, and did "useradd" again -- unable to login :(
[08:09] <wheatthin> figuringout, go into each user directory and delete the known_hosts file :)
[08:09] <wheatthin> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[08:10] <wheatthin> then go and relogin. It should regenerate a public key
[08:10] <wheatthin> it's a must for a ssh handshake
[08:11] <figuringout> ~/.ssh only has a file called "authorized_keys"
[08:11] <figuringout> nothing else
[08:12] <wheatthin> ahh then that guide the first guy suggested would be helpful to import the .pem
[08:12] <wheatthin> obviously that host only allows authorized keys, and none to be generated.
[08:12] <figuringout> resetting password helps actually
[08:13] <wheatthin> yeah?
[08:13] <figuringout> though deleting users and re-adding them didnt :( go figure
[08:13] <wheatthin> lol
[08:14] <figuringout> do you know of a gui-esque web-based control panel that will help me set this up? im guessing web-server admins do these things all the time
[08:14] <auronandace> !zentyal | figuringout
[08:14] <figuringout> great -- and it does user management?
[08:17] <Jimi_Neutral> Morning peeps. I have an old TV that is HDMI but does not have wirless capability. I was thinking about using tyhe raspeberry pi i have, connected with an HDMI cable, wirless dongle plugged into it to stream from my Synology NAS. Its a temp measure until we get cable tv sorted. Any ideas how I can go about this?
[08:18] <auronandace> Jimi_Neutral: ubuntu does not run on the pi
[08:18] <auronandace> Jimi_Neutral: likely better off asking in ##linux
[08:19] <Jimi_Neutral> ok ty
[08:32] <aspirina77> !list
[08:35] <pirret> i have ubuntu 12.04.3 server, it's a VPS, i removed apache2, and now every time i want to to dist-upgrade it wants to install apache2-doc apache2.2-bin back
[08:35] <pirret> why is this, how i can completeley remove everything apache related so it wont come back on dist-upgrade
[08:35] <pirret> apache was, pre-installed on that vps
[08:37] <pirret> nvm...
[08:37] <pirret> fixed
[08:37] <ph8_> hi all, i've got a usb stick that was encrypted with truecrypt but has been yanked before unmounting from a windows machine and is now 'unmountable'. I'm on a new ubuntu system and it's just /dev/sdb - i can't dd it because it says it's read only, i've checked hdparm and turned read only off but i'm still getting the same problem - any idea where i might be able to start to overwrite this bugger?
[08:37] <starnix> Hello people, I cannot lock screen. ubuntu 13.10 gnome 3.10?
[08:38] <bazhang> starnix, gnome PPA?
[08:38] <starnix> bazhang: yes
[08:38] <bazhang> starnix, did you contact the PPA maintainer and file a bug with that?
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> ph8_, Overwrite? open gparted unmount it and make a new partition.
[08:39] <starnix> bazhang, I just installed, ubuntu 13.10 yesterday night, and facing that issue.
[08:39] <bazhang> starnix, how did you get that PPA so quickly?
[08:40] <starnix> bazhang: what does that mean?
[08:40] <bazhang> starnix, gnome 3.10? thats the one from a PPA
[08:41] <starnix> bazhang, where do I file a bug for this?
[08:41] <bazhang> starnix, contact the PPA maintainer
[08:41] <cjmac> Hey, I just installed samba on my ubuntu 12.04 box (which is joined to a windows domain via centrify) and it's started saying "importing account for xxxxx.... ok" for every user in the domain. What on earth is going on?
[08:41] <cjmac> There's, like, 130,000 users in this domain, so I think I'll be here a while...
[08:42] <starnix> bazhang: ppa gnome3-team ?
[08:43] <bazhang> starnix, contact them, if thats the one that supplied that PPA
[08:49] <impradeepy> hello guys
[08:57] <duoi> hi
[08:58] <duoi> question-- i'm updating && upgrading and ive just been asked if i want to keep or update psd.conf. is there any drawbacks with updating it?
[08:58] <babinlonston> hi all , after reinstall ubuntu keyboard and mouse not working , how to resolve it
[09:20] <sandman13> hello
[09:24] <shagelito> hey
[09:24] <shagelito> anyone here up to help me fix a silly problem about a grub instals ?
[09:26] <LigH> Greetings. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, updated to kernel 3.11 (generic-lts-saucy + eol-upgrade): nvidia-304 building kernel driver fails; nvidia-319 building kernel driver fails (Bad return status for module build)
[09:26] <wilee-nilee> shagelito, Have you tried the bootrepair app, it generates a bootinfo summary that is helpful in diagnosing if it is not fixed.
[09:27] <LigH> The installation mentioned to check a log file, but I forgot which. In which file is the update log?
[09:31] <sandman13> is there a way to recover the partition made in windows deleted while installing ubuntu
[09:33] <LigH> It is probably /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-319/319.32/build/make.log -- according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-319/+bug/1251829
[09:34] <wilee-nilee> sandman13, You could try testdisk, be backed up/cloned though
[09:34] <noobmastah> Hello
[09:35] <wilee-nilee> sandman13, This partition gone or just showing unallocated?
[09:35] <noobmastah> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop, this machine has two drives, one is having one ntfs partition with my data and the other one is having the ubuntu installation and vista recovery partition. WHen booting I get Err2Err3 Operating system not found, grub installed without problems, what could be wrong!???
[09:35] <sandman13> gone the partition was made in windows
[09:36] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, Try booting from both HD's
[09:37] <geirha> noobmastah: Did you specify where to install grub during installation?
[09:37] <noobmastah> geirha: No I was not prompted
[09:37] <wilee-nilee> sandman13, What was in  the partition?
[09:38] <noobmastah> wilee-nilee: Yeah it mentions just one disk in the BIOS :(
[09:38] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, Is one a slave?
[09:38] <noobmastah> wilee-nilee: I don't know? :(
[09:38] <sandman13> some spreadsheet
[09:38] <noobmastah> wilee-nilee: I guess they are SATA disks
[09:39] <sandman13> images, isos exe files and stuffs
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, I like to see a script that is generated by an app or a download and some commands to really see what's going on, save all the questions.
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> saves*
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> sandman13, if it is not replaceable you could try testdisk back up what is there, and if you installed over it that will be gone if its recovered
[09:42] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, This app may fix it, save the bootinfo summary none the less. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:43] <noobmastah> wilee-nilee: I opened it, they are two sata disks. I can draw a little schema :)
[09:43] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, Not interested I want that bootinfo summary.
[09:44] <noobmastah> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/Caarn0yd
[09:45] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, basically we are missing info the script will give a lot then we can see whats up.
[09:45] <noobmastah> wilee-nilee: Okay
[09:45] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, The app may fix it.
[09:45] <noobmastah> wilee-nilee: I will boot it up
[09:46] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah, The app runs from a live cd/usb or the ubuntu install.
[09:48] <Seldaek> heya, I disabled unity 3d in compiz config settings and now the whole main toolbar vanished, along with alt-tab switcher etc.. any idea how to get some of it back? :)
[09:49] <djdie> hi i have installed Xchm ofr read .chm files (ebook) but the user interface is very ugly, do you know a swag sofware for read ebook ?
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> Seldaek: enable unity 3d in compiz
[09:50] <djdie> Seldaek: do you try a reset unity ?
[09:50] <djdie> Seldaek: unity --reset
[09:51] <Seldaek> hitsujiTMO: I can't access the settings anymore without the launcher (can't find the binary in the termianl)
[09:51] <Seldaek> djdie: let's try that, thanks
[09:52] <sandman13> wilee-nilee: i chose delete windows while installing ubuntu. does testdisk recovers data from such condition too?
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> Seldaek: binary should be ccsm
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> Seldaek: what version of ubuntu are you using as unity --reset does not work after 12.04
[09:53] <noobmastah1> wilee-nilee: What exactly do you want now :)
[09:53] <noobmastah1> wilee-nilee: ah i see
[09:53] <Seldaek> hitsujiTMO: it's 12.04 and it seems to have worked, but thanks for the ccsm trick
[09:54] <DJones> @comment 58224 Comment on quitting "Fuck you all" despite getting help & support/w 20
[09:54] <noobmastah1> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6436649/
[09:58] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah1, We don;t support mint here, however you are just missing the grub bootloader in the sda mbr that app will fix that.
[09:59] <noobmastah1> wilee-nilee: Mint = Ubuntu
[09:59] <djdie> hi i have installed Xchm for read .chm files (ebook) but the user interface is very ugly, do you know a swag sofware for read ebook ?
[09:59] <wilee-nilee> !mint | noobmastah
[09:59] <wilee-nilee> noobmastah1, Inspite of no support I did give you the answer to fix it.
[10:00] <noobmastah1> wilee-nilee: Okay thanks!
[10:00] <tim167> hi, how do i install ubuntu on a macbook air ?
[10:03] <excognac> tim167: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir
[10:04] <tim167> excognac: i was hoping there was a simpler method that didn't require using OSX
[10:05] <excognac> tim167: which model u have?
[10:05] <tim167> excognac: not sure, but the OSX on it is broken (doesn't boot anymore)
[10:06] <excognac> tim167: did u try a live-cd?
[10:06] <dupondje> Hi. How to force unmount a stale NFS mount. The NFS server is unavailable. But umount -lf /mnt/nfsmount does not work. It keeps waiting :(
[10:06] <tim167> excognac: macbook air doesn't have a cd drive
[10:07] <excognac> tim167: whatever, live usb then?
[10:07] <tim167> excognac: well that's my question, i was hoping there was some not overly complicated way to make a mac bootable usb
[10:07] <tim167> and that doesnt require OSX
[10:08] <excognac> tim167: http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-dual-boot-ubuntu-in-macbook-air
[10:08] <excognac> well, you need a usb stick with ubuntu on it for sure
[10:09] <noobmastah> tim167: you can just boot ubuntu from your usb by holding some option button and an other one don't remember, that was just a regular ubuntu usb we used last week and that worked without any problems
[10:10] <jcz> I would like to install ubuntu core rootfs on SD card. Basically, im following this instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core/InstallationExample but i have problems with chrooting and installing the kernel because it is an armhf rootfs. Any ideas how i could bypass this problem?
[10:11] <tim167> noobmastah: ok, that would be cool, i guess i can just try that,... its an old macbook air though, one of the first models i think
[10:11] <jcz> I though about booting the kernel directly from u-boot loader and then installing the kernel in the rootfs but im not sure about some steps
[10:12] <noobmastah> tim167: I'm not sure how to install it either, but live usb should be no problem. Is it having an intel processor?
[10:12] <tim167> noobmastah: yes intel for sure
[10:14] <dupondje> Anyone? :)
[10:14] <tim167> noobmastah: problem is: i need hdiutil which is mac only ?
[10:15] <noobmastah> tim167: Why do you need that?
[10:15] <tim167> is there an alternative to "hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o" on ubuntu ?
[10:15] <tim167> step 1.3 at http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-dual-boot-ubuntu-in-macbook-air
[10:15] <noobmastah> tim167: what does it?
[10:15] <tim167> Convert the iso file to img format
[10:15] <noobmastah> tim167: why do you want that?
[10:16] <tim167> to make bootable usb from iso
[10:16] <noobmastah> tim167: you can dd the iso file directly no need to convert
[10:16] <tim167> noobmastah: are you sure ?
[10:16] <gallok> hi all
[10:17] <gallok> anyone can pass me a good link about pxe on ubuntu?
[10:17] <noobmastah> tim167: yes
[10:17] <tim167> noobmastah: hmm, ok, then i wonder why they add that step on that page
[10:18] <tim167> noobmastah: anyway I'm gonna try 'unetbootin'
[10:18] <noobmastah> tim167: I don't know maybe dd doesn't support it on the mac, but I've made so many usb sticks with iso files and they all worked so no I don't see the problem. :P
[10:19] <dupondje> Nobody got an idea on how to umount a stale nfs mount when umount -lf /mnt/nfsmount does not work?
[10:20] <tim167> noobmastah: ok, thanks :)
[10:20] <iamarealboy> Hi !
[10:21] <tim167> noobmastah: so I could simply do "dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/path/to/usb" or such?
[10:21] <majid> salam
[10:22] <noobmastah> tim167: correct
[10:22] <tim167> noobmastah: cool, I'll try it out, thanks
[10:25] <sandman13> can testdisk be used to recover the only selected files from the partition?
[10:28] <wilee-nilee> sandman13, Look for your self. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Undelete_files_from_NTFS_with_TestDisk
[10:29] <wilee-nilee> sandman13, That is from a partition still there, you have deleted the partition though.
[10:30] <wilee-nilee> sandman13, here is the main page. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[10:31] <sandman13> looking right now
[10:31] <eph3meral> aanyone else having problems with kdevelop and gdb on Ubuntu 13.10 ? (sorry for-xpost)
[10:31] <sandman13> installed test disk too
[10:38] <__marco> Hello, where I can find the list of gtk's default icons used in ubuntu? Ideally will be from version 12.04 onwards
[10:44] <Gorroth> __marco: __polo
[10:45] <LUGX> exist a website or link to a list about all LUG from USA?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> what's LUG?
[10:46] <LUGX> Linux User Group
[10:47] <LUGX> need more information for my linuxproject LUGX - Linux User Group indeX its a global index fo all LUG
[10:48] <LUGX> coming soon 2014 on lugx.org
[10:48] <__marco> Gorroth: I'm sorry, what is __polo?
[10:49] <Gorroth> a response to marco
[10:49] <__marco> ...
[10:49] <Gorroth> it's a game
[10:49] <__marco> yep
[10:49] <LUGX> but polo is a german car model too
[10:49] <djdie> what the most beautiful pdf reader on ubuntu/linux ?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> !pdf
[10:53] <man0riaX> Hello
[11:00] <mathfreak_> hey all. I don't know what the /dev/dm-0 /dev/dm-1 etc. files are for or what they represent.
[11:01] <mathfreak_> What are the /dev/dm-? for?
[11:02] <ddssc> couldn't download reposirotry indexes http://paste.ubuntu.com/6436851/
[11:03] <mathfreak_> ddssc: I think the medibuntu project has closed down, since all their work has been merged with the official repos
[11:03] <DJones> ddssc: medibuntu is a dead project
[11:04] <Gorroth> loool
[11:04] <Gorroth> i think i broke ubottu
[11:04] <Gorroth> nevermind... must have a timeout on it
[11:05] <ddssc> mathfreak_: right. so how do I fix my update. synaptic is refusing to cooperate
[11:06] <mathfreak_> ddssc: Settings->Repositories. Click "Other Software", and disable any non-existent medibuntu repos.
[11:06] <MonkeyDu1t> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[11:07] <cfhowlett> may as well delete medibuntu; she gone
[11:08] <user___> i feel like X could be running more smoothly/quickly.  from this pastebin after installing my graphics driver does it seem like there are major errors i can easily fix http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA
[11:08] <geshil> test
[11:10] <frustrated_joe> hi
[11:10] <frustrated_joe> i just want to see if someone has the same frustrations as i have:
[11:12] <frustrated_joe> i had ubuntu 12.04 (dual boot, installed via WUBI), updated to 12.10 and then wanted to update to 13.04 (via ubuntu update)... when i had the 12.04 first, and the 12.10 everything worked PERFECT
[11:12] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, wubi is for TESTING not for long term installation.  Expect  breakage
[11:12] <Ben64> wubi isn't meant for more than testing
[11:13] <frustrated_joe> when going to 13.04, the installation went sour, and i had to reinstall 12.04, and eversince i have a shit ubuntu: nothing works, updates don't work, programs can't be installed, and i tried to reinstall 4 times already, with every time the same effect
[11:13] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, dual boot is the recommended option.  If you can't/wont' dual boot, consider virtualbox.
[11:13] <Animus74> does anyone know how to uninstall recent updates ? after i updated i vouldnt boot ( low graphics)
[11:13] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, you might also consider clean installing rather than online update.
[11:13] <frustrated_joe> i can not use anything else tha wubi, since my HD already has already the max number of partitions
[11:14] <Ben64> you can use logical partitions
[11:14] <frustrated_joe> when i try the DVD to install, i can not partion my HD
[11:14] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, false.  virtualbox doesnt' need a partition and is more stable than wubi
[11:14] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: Use extended and logical partitions.
[11:14] <frustrated_joe> can can only choose one of my four partions, not create a new one
[11:14] <Ben64> logical passes that limit
[11:14] <frustrated_joe> i have no idea what are extended and logical partitions
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !partitions
[11:14] <Ben64> animus74: please don't do that
[11:15] <Animus74> oh sorry
[11:15] <Joupi> frustrated_joe : Either go to logical parts or virtualbox is the best option (and avoid going from LTS to non LTS unles you really need it ... if you want to remain stable)
[11:15] <Animus74> i was randomly exploring this app
[11:16] <frustrated_joe> but why do i keep having so many problems with ubuntu now, as when i first installed it, added programs, etc, ALL worked without any problem what so ever, why suddenly with reinstall the same way it seems every time more problematic
[11:16] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, you're running ubuntu under window's file structure.  WHEN windows defrags, so goes your ubuntu.
[11:17] <Ben64> Animus74: you should provide more details to help with your problem. what video card, what drivers for it, how did you get said drivers
[11:17] <mathfreak_> Animus74: How does it fail to boot? What sort of error messages show up? What's your graphics card?
[11:17] <Animus74> intel graphics . intel pentium . ubuntu 13.04 . it says low graphics mode
[11:18] <Animus74> is there any way i can post a picture on this forum thing
[11:18] <DJones> !imagebin | Animus74
[11:18] <frustrated_joe> so, it seems that i should a install not using WUBI, but a normal dual boot. i am an absolute noob, is there some easy step by step way? now i have 4 partitions: 3 systemthingies, and the main one
[11:19] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, get the 32 bit ubuntu.  Install virtualbox on windows.  Install 32 bit ubuntu inside virtualbox.
[11:19] <Joupi> Frustrated_joe : agreed with cfhowlett, it is the easiest if your machine goes well enough ...
[11:19] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, OR  you could install the ubuntu, then virtualbox and put your windows inside virtualbox.  depends on your needs.
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !virtualbox
[11:19] <frustrated_joe> why the going back to the 32bit?
[11:20] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: There a plenty of guides online. The main step during the install is splitting the main partition (which should sit under an extended partition) into two partitions, so you end up with more partitions than the hard limit of 4.
[11:20] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, cuz your virtualbox likely won't run in 64 bit
[11:21] <Joupi> cfhowlett : virtuabox can run both without problem, I have 64 on mine. It only depends on the host OS if it is 32 or 64
[11:21] <frustrated_joe> @mathfreak: could you tell me where to find such a noob guide, and also how to tell later which partition is which in the installation menu of ubuntu, since i have noticed they have not the same names there
[11:22] <maxmin> hi, i want to install Ubunut 12.04.03 as windows installer. and i want to install it offline.
[11:22] <maxmin> where could i get complete Ubuntu 12.04  Offline installer?
[11:22] <Animus74> okay he message says : the system is runnig in low graphics mode
[11:23] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: I followed the Community Ubuntu docs for dual-booting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[11:23] <frustrated_joe> and what about the option of installing ubuntu on a external HD? is it possible to run all programs that way as well?
[11:23] <Animus74> your screen graphics card and input settings could not be detected correctly . you will need to configure these yourself
[11:24] <Animus74> it started after an update
[11:24] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: If you use the LiveCD, you're given the option to automatically resize the partitions for you. The partition that gets split is going to be the really big one (since that's where all your data and programs sit)
[11:24] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: It is possible to run Ubuntu off of an external, but beware that your performance will be very unsatisfactory, since USB2.0 has a limit of 480 Mbps (USB3.0 is a bit better with this).
[11:25] <frustrated_joe> taken from the windows dualbootlink: "Choose the first option, which should say "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup". Specify the size of the new partition by dragging the slider at the bottom of the window". With me he never asked this possibility of the new partion by dragging the slider
[11:25] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: that dialogue isn't presented on a wubi install.
[11:26] <MonkeyDu1t> ah wubi
[11:26] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, ^^^^
[11:26] <frustrated_joe> sorry, now i was talking when i entered the live CD that i made, 64bit
[11:26] <cfhowlett> frustrated_joe, mixing your tutorials is not the safest route
[11:26] <MonkeyDu1t> wubi means: will ultimately be inefficient
[11:27] <frustrated_joe> i don't agree, up until i wanted to upgrade, wubi was perfect, never had a problem under 12.10
[11:27] <MonkeyDu1t> frustrated_joe  wubi isnt meant to be upgraded, it's a test installtion
[11:27] <Animus74> oh i found out i can access ttty3
[11:28] <Animus74> can i uninstall updates from here?
[11:28] <maxmin> I want to install Ubunut 12.04.03 as windows installer. and i want to install it offline. where could i get complete Ubuntu 12.04  Offline installer?
[11:29] <mathfreak_> maxmin: As a windows installer? That sounds like you want to use wubi. Our current discussion suggests that wubi shouldn't be used for anything serious.
[11:29] <cfhowlett> maxmin, windows installer = wubi.  Expect very sub-optimal results.  wubi is for testing not for long-term installlation
[11:29] <MonkeyDu1t> I had hoped wubi would be gone and forgotten forever
[11:30] <frustrated_joe> can i try to install the 13.04 using live DVD, and leaving the 12.04 wubi-version on the pc as well, until i've got the 13.04 up and running?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDu1t, dracula syndrome.  just when you thought it was dead ...
[11:30] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: Yes.
[11:30] <user___> i feel like X could be running more smoothly/quickly. from this pastebin after installing my graphics driver does it seem like there are major errors i can easily fix http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA - kubuntu 13.10
[11:30] <frustrated_joe> so, my main problem will be the partion, as i understand it?
[11:30] <frustrated_joe> the biggest headbreaker
[11:31] <Ben64> Animus74: pastebin "lshw -C VIDEO" and "lspci"
[11:31] <Ben64> frustrated_joe: yep
[11:31] <MonkeyDu1t> frustrated_joe  wubi creates a space inside windows, it's not really a partition
[11:31] <mathfreak_> frustrated_joe: Yup. The automatic partitioner should handle all the heavy work for you. You just need to specify how much space you want to split between ubuntu and windows.
[11:31] <Ben64> mathfreak_: not when he already has 4 partitions
[11:32] <frustrated_joe> but, like i said, when inserting the dvd, he did NOT ask for the "slider" to partition
[11:32] <maxmin> cfhowlett: then can i install it(Ubuntu 12.04) form an ISO image for long term?
[11:32] <mathfreak_> Ben64: Windows sits under an extended partition.
[11:32] <Ben64> frustrated_joe: because in order to make more than 4 partitions, an extended partition must be created, which takes up one of the four primary partitions, so you'll have to find one you can delete, at least temporarily
[11:32] <MonkeyDu1t> frustrated_joe  what you can try: use the live dvd's gparted
[11:33] <Animus74> syntax incorrect?
[11:33] <frustrated_joe> so, i should make a new partion in windows 7 first, and then run the live DVD?
[11:33] <Joupi> frustrated_joe : really if your pc specs are good enough, go for virtualbox, it's the easiest way to have both system work in parallel
[11:33] <Animus74> Ben64:  is there something else ?
[11:33] <frustrated_joe> because deleting is NOT an option (system-files, backup,...)
[11:33] <Ben64> Animus74: you must have typed something wrong
[11:33] <mathfreak_> Ben64: Ah, that would make sense. Never mind.
[11:34] <frustrated_joe> be away for 10'
[11:34] <Ben64> frustrated_joe: it would help if you let us know what your partition structure was
[11:34] <cfhowlett> maxmin, you have choices.  virtualbox inside windows with 32 bit ubuntu is the "safest" way so far as windows is concerned but performance will be limited.  dualboot is a bit more work but totally worth the effort
[11:34] <mathfreak_> I sure hope frustrated_joe backs up all his data before he does anything.
[11:35] <Animus74> Ben64: when i tupe only lspci, it displays alist of drivers
[11:35] <Ben64> Animus74: ok, pastebin that, and the other command i gave you
[11:36] <LinPadawan> hi all - currently studying for first half of Comptia Linux+ exams and I'm a little confused with explanation of x11 client - server relationship. Study materials are telling me that the client supplies the data from applications to the server, which provides display and interaction capabilities to clients. It also says that this often resides on separate networked machines. On a PC linux installation, are both client-server on th
[11:37] <Ben64> LinPadawan: you're not in the right channel for that
[11:37] <LinPadawan> Ah sorry, which channel should I be in?
[11:37] <Rory> i can't use ctrl-c in bash (any terminal) on my user, but I can on other users. Ubuntu 13.10. nothing happens when I press ctrl-C in bash to (for example) cancel a half-written command. but if I am running a script and hit ctrl-c it prints ^C to the console
[11:37] <Rory> There is nothing in ~/.bashrc
[11:37] <Ben64> LinPadawan: #linux maybe, i'm not sure. this is a Ubuntu support channel only
[11:38] <LinPadawan> Ben64 is there a general ubuntu chat?
[11:38] <LinPadawan> will have a look at #linux too
[11:38] <maxmin> cfhowlett: how can i install Ubuntu 12.04 as Dual boot in winodws XP rom Ubuntu 12.04.iso image?
[11:38] <Ben64> LinPadawan: not sure why you need ubuntu to tell you about x, but there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:38] <LinPadawan> don't all linux systems use x window system in the background?
[11:39] <LinPadawan> but yes, thanks will have a look :)
[11:39] <Animus74> Ben64: no . lshw -
[11:39] <LinPadawan> all GUI linux systems*
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|maxmin,
[11:39] <Ben64> Animus74: lshw -C VIDEO
[11:40] <Animus74> Ben64: yes thats the command thats not working
[11:41] <Ben64> Animus74: well you're typing it wrong
[11:42] <Animus74> Ben64: um can i have the whole code again plz?
[11:42] <Ben64> Animus74: lshw -C VIDEO
[11:43] <Animus74> so when i tupe that, it gives me alist of how lsjw can be used
[11:43] <Animus74> *lshw
[11:44] <user___> i feel like X could be running more smoothly/quickly. from this pastebin after installing my graphics driver does it seem like there are major errors i can easily fix http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA - kubuntu 13.10
[11:44] <Ben64> Animus74: then you're typing it wrong!
[11:44] <Joupi> Animus74 : providing there is no error message with your lshw command, have you tried 'sudo lshw -html > system_info.html' and open in web browser ?
[11:44] <bewees> Hi, I want to configure mod_wsgi for apache and I followed ubuntu instructions here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Apache#Python  But there is no /etc/apache2/sites-available/default  file for me in latter dir?
[11:45] <LinPadawan> hi all - currently studying for first half of Comptia Linux+ exams and I'm a little confused with explanation of x11 client - server relationship. Study materials are telling me that the client supplies the data from applications to the server, which provides display and interaction capabilities to clients. It also says that this often resides on separate networked machines. On a PC linux installation, are both client-server on th
[11:45] <LinPadawan> apologies if it's a stupid question, been studying all day and my mind isn't so fresh at this hour!
[11:45] <LinPadawan> ooops
[11:45] <LinPadawan> wrong ir
[11:45] <LinPadawan> irc
[11:45] <LinPadawan> sorry
[11:45] <FloodBot1> LinPadawan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <Danato> lol
[11:50] <Animus74> it says PCI (sysfs)
[11:53] <StevenR> morning. Got a problem with one user's profile/account that I can't pin down. No videos play. Not youtube/vlc/mythtv. It works with a fresh user, but I can't see anything that would block it. Both users are in the video/audio groups
[11:54] <kaksddkf> hi all i installed paragon ntfs and it is twice fast as compared with NTFS-3G, i edited /etc/fstab to mount partitions at boot, but i don't mount to them at boot, i want to mount them as desired without any command, just like clicking the list of drives in nautilus left pane, partitions which are not mounted by fstab are visible in nautilus left pane, and they got mounted in /media/label, and drivers loaded for NTFS partitions are NTFS-3G , i want to load Para
[11:55] <maxmin> ubottu: I ahve gone through the link. I have Windows xp (in Partition C:)already installed, and have 3 more empty NTFS partitinons. I will burn ISO to CD and install ubuntu to one of these empty partitions. Do you suggest any other which i should consider while installing Ubunut u as dual boot?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> maxmin, one partition for / (root) one for /swap and one for ...?
[11:56] <kaksddkf> what i want to acheive is to load  paragon NTFS drivers by default instead of NTFS-3G, i also unninstalled NTFS-3G but then kernel read only drivers got loaded instead of paragon-NTFS, anybody please help
[11:56] <mathfreak_> cfhowlett: Is there a reason to continue setting up a partition for /swap?
[11:56] <kaksddkf> read only situation is worse than R-W, :D
[11:57] <cfhowlett> mathfreak_, habit more than anything, I suppose ...
[11:57] <cfhowlett> mathfreak_, I can't see the harm in giving up 1 - 2% of my HDD to /swap
[11:57] <sandman13> i deleted my other partition of windows while installing ubuntu can i recover them
[11:57] <kaksddkf> cfhowlett: could you help me, as mentioned above
[11:58] <mathfreak_> cfhowlett: Well, the space isn't so much an issue, but why not use a swap file instead of a swap partition?
[11:58] <maxmin> cfhowlett: does ubuntu prompts me of these partitions whil i installing it? and how much should be each partition?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> kaksddkf, whatever you're doing is over my head so .. sorry.  too much ignorance of that point to do you any good
[11:59] <cfhowlett> maxmin, I can tell you mine ... 15 for the / (filesystem) 8 for the /swap and the remainder in  a dedicated /home.  Your mileage may varry
[11:59] <cfhowlett> vary
[12:00] <maxmin> is it GB or MB?
[12:00] <sandman13> help me please
[12:00] <cfhowlett> maxmin, GB
[12:00] <Danato> sandman13: did you format the windows partition?
[12:00] <kaksddkf> cfhowlett: i want to improve NTFS R/W perfromance and i installed paragon NTFS drivers, i am getting read/write  speed two times more than ntfs-3g, and i want to make them default drivers while mounting any NTFS partition, not only those partitions which are mentioned in /etc/fstab
[12:01] <kaksddkf> for eg. take a NTFS formatted pendrive
[12:01] <sandman13> Danato, i selected the option which deletes the windows
[12:01] <cfhowlett> kaksddkf, right.  I understood a single digit percentage of that.  this is NOT my area of expertise or knowledge.  better to ask someone/somewhere else
[12:02] <kaksddkf> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:02] <Danato> sandman13: then yeah, it formated everything, you will have to repartition your disk and reinstall windows on that partition
[12:02] <Touhou11> kaksddkf: I think pendrives still use FAT32 usually
[12:03] <MonkeyDu1t> kaksddkf  i guess you're pioneering with that kind of NTFS format, don't expect much support
[12:03] <sandman13> Danato: i'm planning to use ubuntu but i want my data back
[12:03] <maxmin> cfhowlett: can i do partitions of 15GB for /root, 8 GB for /Swap and rest for .... before insatlling Ubuntu or Ubuntu ask me to do while installing?
[12:03] <Touhou11> sandman13: When it deleted the partition, did it take a long time (30+ minutes), or did it take a few seconds? If the latter, most of your files might still be accessible
[12:04] <MonkeyDu1t> kaksddkf  oh, paragon ntfs is for mac!
[12:04] <cfhowlett> maxmin, you mean set up the partitions before starting install ?   sure
[12:04] <kaksddkf> MonkeyDu1t: i just want to load paragon-ntfs drivers instead of ntfs-3g by default  and paragon-ntfs also exist for Linux also
[12:04] <sandman13> Danato: don't know i left while it was installing
[12:04] <MonkeyDu1t> kaksddkf  did you ask for advice in the !mac channel?
[12:05] <Rory> i can't use ctrl-c in bash (any terminal) on my user, but I can on other users. Ubuntu 13.10. nothing happens when I press ctrl-C in bash to (for example) cancel a half-written command. but if I am running a script and hit ctrl-c it prints ^C to the console
[12:05] <sandman13> Danato: i ran testdisk it only shows 96gb marked as linux rest of the disk space is not shown
[12:05] <kaksddkf> MonkeyDu1t: No, this is the only channel i am aware of and this is a great channel to get help from community
[12:06] <ikonia> Rory: intr is set wrong for that user
[12:06] <maxmin> cfhowlett: I mean: can i re-arrange partitins for these Ubuntu from Windows XP before installing Ubuntu?
[12:06] <MonkeyDu1t> kaksddkf  type /join macosx
[12:06] <MonkeyDu1t> kaksddkf  type /join #macosx
[12:06] <ikonia> MonkeyDu1t: why ?
[12:06] <Rory> ikonia: stty -a http://paste.ubuntu.com/6437124/
[12:07] <ikonia> MonkeyDu1t: he's asking for help in linux, why are you pointing him at macosx
[12:07] <Touhou11> sandman13: Previously I used http://www.sysresccd.org to recover files on a corrupt filesystem, but it depends if you did a full format or not. If you did a full format your files are lost (afaik)
[12:07] <ikonia> Rory: intr = ^V
[12:07] <Rory> ikonia: EOF (C-d) doesn't work either
[12:07] <Danato> sandman, theres an option to install ubuntu that says "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" which is ticked by default, and theres a "Warning: This will delete any files on the disk"
[12:07] <MonkeyDu1t> ikonia  my line of thinking was: paragon is a mac thing, wouldnt harm to ask advice there
[12:07] <kaksddkf> MonkeyDu1t: will they help me regarding the same issue, because i am on linux and i am using linux drivers and i never used MAC
[12:07] <cfhowlett> maxmin, you're using windows to rearrange your partitions?  (Oh AND using xp? :)  well, you could but, I always found the gparted tool in ubuntu to be easier to deal with
[12:08] <ikonia> MonkeyDu1t: there is a linux version also, the mac version would work different
[12:08] <sandman13> Danato: yes i chose that
[12:08] <Danato> sandman13: try to run gparted and see what it shows you
[12:08] <ikonia> Rory: yes, because it's not set, look at the output you pasted
[12:08] <MonkeyDu1t> well, learned something new then
[12:09] <sandman13> it shows whole disk of 500gb with 11.2gb occupied
[12:10] <Rory> ikonia: i don't really understand how stty works, I only came across it while investigating this. it says "eof = ^D" - I also can't use the scrollshweel on my mouse which might be related, might not. xorg.conf is empty
[12:10] <ikonia> Rory: have you changed anything with your current user ?
[12:10] <ikonia> Rory: as the tty settings don't get changed without effort, especially not on a perminent basis
[12:11] <Rory> ikonia: no, I don't think so, I only installed this morning
[12:11] <maxmin> cfhowlett: does ubuntu prompts me to do partions while installing Ubuntu?
[12:11] <Rory> ikonia: it works if I switch terminal with ctrl-alt-f5
[12:11] <ikonia> Rory: have you done anything like run scripts, install packages from external repos etc etc.
[12:11] <Rory> ikonia: I have the nvidia graphics driver from xorg-edgers on this thinkpad W530
[12:11] <ikonia> Rory: looks like your current terminal is messed up if it works in other terminals
[12:11] <cfhowlett> maxmin, yes.  the first option is to let ubuntu auto install everything.  don't.  there's also an install next to windows option.  Yes.  OR you can go all manual and set it up yourself.
[12:12] <geirha> Rory: echo "$BASH_VERSION, $TERM"
[12:12] <frustrated_joe> hello, i'm back after having lunch... i will try again the reinstall... can i make a partition in my wubi 12.04, and use that partition then to install the 13.04 live dvd? is the partion made in wubi 12.04 a good partition?
[12:12] <Rory> ikonia: Well it doesn't work in gnome-terminal, xterm or terminator so I'm wondering if it's an X or Unity thing
[12:12] <cfhowlett> maxmin, also, if you boot ubuntu and launch "try ubuntu" you can go online to IRC for support.  then launch the installer.
[12:12] <Rory> geirha: 4.2.45(1)-release, xterm
[12:12] <ikonia> Rory: again, those things don't get changed on their own
[12:13] <ikonia> Rory: you can test this just doing "stty intr ^C"
[12:13] <ikonia> then interupt should work with ctrl+c
[12:13] <Rory> ikonia: Not straight after doing that, do i have to run "reset"?
[12:13] <ikonia> (note you have to do stty intr ctrl+v ctrl+c" to get ^C char - don't do shift +6 C)
[12:14] <maxmin> cfhowlett: thank you. i will do like that.
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> frustrated_joe: wubi is godawful. What version of Windows are you using?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> maxmin, you could also install only ubuntu and put XP inside ubuntu via virtualbox
[12:14] <Rory> ikonia: Yes I'm aware of that, wasn't just typing "^C"
[12:14] <ikonia> Rory: ok, so that should enable "interupt" being bound to ctrl+c
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> maxmin: XP is EOL on 1st APril 2014, just so you know
[12:15] <frustrated_joe> win 7
[12:15] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, "come to end, it's time has and not soon enough!" to quote Yoda.
[12:16] <frustrated_joe> and yes, i am told off many times in here about the wubi-quality, that's why i am looking to reinstall
[12:16] <Joupi> frustrated_joe : I currently have xubuntu 12.04 with virtualbox and windows 7 running inside, it runs fine but I have 4 cores and 6Go RAM
[12:16] <Rory> ikonia: After running that, "stty -a" shows "intr = ^C" but cannot use ctrl-c
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: not a bad Windows version, does what it says on the tin
[12:17] <ikonia> Rory: what happens when you press "ctrl +c"
[12:17] <Rory> ikonia: Absolutely nothing
[12:17] <ikonia> Rory: does it not display anything on screen ?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> frustrated_joe: if you resize your NTFS (Win7 can resize its own NTFS partitions), you can then install to the freed space. Or if you are installing from scratch, leave unpartitioned space and install to that and bypass the resizing phase altogether
[12:18] <Rory> ikonia: as in, type some text in a terminal without pressing Return, pres ctrl+c and nothing happens
[12:18] <Rory> ikonia: Nothing prints to the screen
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an alternative package for laptop anti-theft like 'prey', any sugestions?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[12:19] <ikonia> Rory: can I have a look at the output of stty now please.
[12:20] <Rory> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/FpEfRWge
[12:21] <ikonia> Rory: does ctrl+m work if you press it for EOL
[12:21] <Rory> ikonia: Yes
[12:21] <Rory> I'm sure there's something in the x server which is intercepting the ctrl-c
[12:22] <ikonia> Rory: why do you think that ?
[12:22] <Rory> ikonia: Just because it works when I switch to TTY 5
[12:22] <ikonia> Rory: you could get a better idea doing "stty intr ^S" and testing ctrl+s as interupt
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Rory: which desktop and/or shell do you use?
[12:22] <geirha> Rory: Someone had a similar case with Konsole in #bash last month.  If he started Konsole from KDE, ctrl+C didn't work. If he started Konsole via Alt+F2 run-dialog, it worked.
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Rory: and which release?
[12:23] <ikonia> Rory: and that isn't default behaviour, hence why I'm querying what you did
[12:23] <geirha> Rory: We didn't figure out what caused it though
[12:23] <Rory> ikonia: Setting it to ctrl-s doesn't work, as in, I can't use ctrl-s as intr
[12:23] <ikonia> Rory: try a few other keys, that may give a clue if it's not taking interupt, or not taking the keys
[12:24] <ikonia> Rory: get someone with a standad ubuntu install to verify the behaviour and stty output
[12:24] <ikonia> Rory: yours does not look standard at all
[12:24] <Rory> I'm using Cinnamon currently but it also happens in Unity. I'll try some things. I'll also try removing the nvidia driver and seeing if using the open source one works
[12:24] <ikonia> Rory: I think you're rushing ahead at random things
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Rory: which desktop and/or shell do you use? and which release?
[12:24] <ikonia> Rory: try to break it down more
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Rory: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Rory: no need to pastebin, its a single line so can paste in the channel
[12:32] <geirha> ActionParsnip: why /etc/issue rather than lsb_release?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> geirha: its a single line and works on any standard GNU Linux distro
[12:33] <geirha> ActionParsnip: Except the sysadmin may decide to change it
[12:36] <ph8_> hi all, i've got a usb stick that was encrypted with truecrypt but has been yanked before unmounting from a windows machine and is now 'unmountable'. I'm on a new ubuntu system and it's just /dev/sdb - i can't dd it because it says it's read only, i've checked hdparm and turned read only off but i'm still getting the same problem - any idea where i might be able to start to overwrite this bugger?
[12:36] <ikonia> ph8_: read only would not be a problem for dd as dd is "READING" the read only disk.
[12:39] <geirha> ph8_: are you running dd with sudo?
[12:40] <[Ethos]> Good Day!
[12:40] <geirha> ph8_: Anyway, if you put it back into a windows machine, you can have it fix the filesystem.
[12:40] <cfhowlett> [Ethos], greetings
[12:40] <rkokkelk> Hi guys, does anyone know if the one hunder papercuts project is still goingon??
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !papercut
[12:41] <[Ethos]> say what language do they use to develop GUI For Ubuntu?
[12:41] <DJones> rkokkelk: No, I think it was closed down
[12:42] <rkokkelk> Thought so, cause the wikipage is not existing anymore.
[12:42] <rkokkelk> Oke thanks!
[12:42] <[Ethos]> downloading 13.10 now
[12:42] <cfhowlett> rkokkelk, I think the current iteration of user input is ubuntu voices
[12:43] <[Ethos]> ys
[12:43] <DJones> rkokkelk: Maybe not, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts
[12:43] <[Ethos]> espeak
[12:44] <Hanumaan> unable to store the history in bash .bash_history .. I have kept the options  HISTFILESIZE=400000000  HISTSIZE=100000 but still it is not saving all my history disappears after restart of computer ..
[12:44] <rkokkelk> cfhowlett: thanks I will look into it
[12:44] <heavyammo> Is there an open source alternative to Skype to keep in touch with my skype contacts instead of installing skype?
[12:44] <rkokkelk> DJones: ah yeah it's the URL, it was wrong, but thanks I will look for the rest on the wiki!
[12:44] <[Ethos]> Is Windows considered Linux?
[12:44] <user___> from this http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA what dependencies does it appear are missing
[12:45] <k1l> [Ethos]: no.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> [Ethos], no
[12:45] <[Ethos]> :<
[12:45] <heavyammo> [Ethos], no
[12:45] <heavyammo> :D
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !skype|heavyammo,
[12:45] <geirha> Hanumaan: All history? so .bash_history is always empty?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !ekiga
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !voip
[12:46] <heavyammo> cfhowlett, so if I install Ekiga could I connect it to my Skype account?
[12:46] <geirha> Hanumaan: Or does it end up at max 500 lines?
[12:48] <Hanumaan> geirha, it ends up max 500 lines
[12:48] <[Ethos]> say anyone got that clock thing to work on beginning screen of 13.10
[12:48] <[Ethos]> the ones they use for Ubuntu Phones
[12:48] <geirha> Hanumaan: Then you've probably just set HIST*SIZE in the wrong file. You have to set them in ~/.bashrc
[12:49] <geirha> Hanumaan: And don't export them
[12:49] <cfhowlett> heavyammo, nope.  ekiga and skype do not talk so far as I know.  note: the new google + hangouts has some kind of voip capability
[12:50] <cfhowlett> heavyammo, skype is proprietary and is now owned by microsoft.
[12:50] <[Ethos]> darn
[12:50] <heavyammo> cfhowlett, I am just trying to chat with my Skype contacts, not Voip. I know that there are web applications such as plus.im that could do that, which makes me think there should be a open source software on Ubuntu capable of that too
[12:50] <maxklim> hi!
[12:50] <[Ethos]> Where is MS headed trying own everything
[12:51] <cfhowlett> heavyammo, that I know of ... no.
[12:51] <maxklim> /whois maxklim
[12:51] <cfhowlett> maxklim, greetings
[12:51] <Touhou11> [Ethos]: Making money? If others could use the same protocol they wouldn't have a monopoly on Skype calls
[12:51] <[Ethos]> they bought Nokia as well, just few months ago.
[12:51] <Touhou11> heavyammo: Be aware that after Microsoft bought Skype they altered the way the system works to allow recording of all calls. Previously Skype was a decentralised network
[12:52] <heavyammo> cfhowlett, alrite thanks =)
[12:52] <cfhowlett> heavyammo, best of luck
[12:52] <[Ethos]> say if you were to be stuck in an island, would you save your friend or your wife?
[12:52] <[Ethos]> only one person you can save.
[12:52] <maxklim> wife
[12:52] <heavyammo> Touhou11, I don't want to install Skype on my Ubuntu system for similar reasons...
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !ot[Ethos],
[12:52] <k1l> !ot | [Ethos]
[12:52] <[Ethos]> sorry
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !ot|[Ethos],
[12:52] <[Ethos]> just lightning up
[12:52] <Touhou11> [Ethos]: Why can you only save one, are you going to eat the other person?
[12:53] <k1l> Touhou11: please drop that topic into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel to keep this channel clear for support. thanks
[12:53] <heavyammo> well, Touhou11, I really hope that Ubuntu  /will really
[12:54] <[Ethos]> Touhou11: suppose they are drowning
[12:54] <heavyammo>  Canonical will really make an effort to create a real alternative to the current state of voip etc.
[12:54] <heavyammo> we need that
[12:54] <[Ethos]> heh
[12:55] <Touhou11> heavyammo: There's nothing wrong with the current alternatives to Skype, but it's vastly more convenient to stay on the same as everyone else so no-one switches
[12:55] <heavyammo> I mean in terms marketing them, porting them to Windows, etc
[12:55] <maxklim> Touhou11: the same situation is with xmpp vs icq and so on...
[12:57] <maxklim> heavyammo: the problem is that every ubuntu user knows about windows, but not every windows user knows about canonical and its initiatives.
[12:57] <user___> from this http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA what dependencies does it appear are missing
[12:58] <gordonjcp> maxklim: for suitable values of "knows about"
[12:58] <gordonjcp> I keep meaning to try windows
[12:59] <gordonjcp> I heard it's got network support built in, in the newer versions
[13:00] <maxklim> gordonjcp: you haven't ever try windows or it's a way of sarcasm?
[13:00] <maxklim> * tried
[13:00] <user___> can someone recommend a quick photo touchup tool for ubuntu/kubuntu  like the one that comes with ms office
[13:01] <user___> lightweight
[13:01] <cfhowlett> user___, shotwell
[13:01] <cfhowlett> VERY quick/easy/limited menu
[13:02] <gordonjcp> maxklim: I have Windows 3.11 on floppies
[13:02] <gordonjcp> maxklim: that was the last version of Windows I used
[13:02] <maxklim> gordonjcp: you are lucky ;-)
[13:06] <hubahopp> i've got wifi authentication problems after upgrading to saucy. I can't seem to find a relevant bug, anyone had anything similar?
[13:06] <user___> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:06] <cfhowlett> user___, hope that gives you what you want.
[13:07] <philinux> user___: or gthumb and pinta
[13:08] <geirha> gordonjcp: me too, and also an old game for windows 3.11 that I still enjoy. So I have win 3.11 installed in a dosbox along with that game. Great fun.
[13:11] <user___> philinux: thanks also
[13:13] <philinux> user___: try them all. shotwell annoys me with it's import thing. all my pics are already "organised by me" As with all things you may like that feature
[13:14] <user___> philinux: plan to... just really simply looking for the tool like ms office picture manager has, the 'one click fix' for photos
[13:16] <zughdsdsa> Hi, is there anybody who can explain me, what the kernel parameter timer_migration does? Thanks in advance
[13:16] <Rory> ikonia: Reverting to the open-source nvidia driver (uninstalling nvidia-319) fixes my ^C thing
[13:17] <geirha> Rory: oh, that's interesting
[13:19] <queretaro> In the MOTD message I can see how many security updates are available. Can I know in some way which are the packages that have to be updates? I'm looking for something similar to /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs
[13:20] <queretaro> updated*
[13:21] <user___> from this http://pastebin.com/fAE6hrKA what dependencies does it appear are missing
[13:21] <guest-NZfFvS> ping!
[13:22] <cfhowlett> !ping
[13:22] <maxklim> !ping
[13:22] <guest-NZfFvS> ubottu! Im name is Patrick!
[13:23] <cfhowlett> guest-NZfFvS, ubottu don't care what your name is.  Nothing personal.  What is your Ubuntu question.
[13:24] <philinux> user___: you can set the default app in system settings > details
[13:28] <bunduru> i gave up on my DWA-547 since it was not working ok and installed a DWL-G510 (ralink chip) but it doesn't appear to be working :s
[13:28] <bunduru> and i can't figure out how to
[13:28] <railsraider> is there a way to override the bashrc for all users without deleting the bashrc for each user? im overwriting the /etc/bash.bashrc
[13:29] <user___> philinux: k
[13:30] <bunduru> i read it should work out of the box :s
[13:35] <heavyammo> In the Power information window, Ubuntu displays I have a 4000mah battery and my battery is 7800mah, should I be trying to change that as for example it changes my battery icon in the tray to RED when it goes lower than 30% and it's just pointless and confusing
[13:35] <heavyammo> any other possible benefits?
[13:35] <heavyammo> of changing it
[13:35] <cfhowlett> heavyammo, power settings > battery management
[13:36] <heavyammo> cfhowlett, I am on Xubuntu and I don't see anything similar to battery management
[13:36] <djdie> I looking for a traduction software for ubuntu/linux when I select text and I do right click, I can choose traduction wich open a soft or a browser web windows (or whatever) with the traduction of the selection
[13:37] <cfhowlett> heavyammo, I'm also on xubuntu.  You're right.  Look in the software center - there should be something you can install.
[13:38] <Pici> djdie: Uh.. Perhaps #ubuntu-fr would be better for you, I'm don't really understand what you're asking ('traduction' doesn't mean anything in english)
[13:38]  * cfhowlett thought it was only him.
[13:41] <bunduru> wifi isn't appearing in the network manager, i just installed another wireless card but doesn't seem to be working
[13:41] <bunduru> any tips?
[13:41] <Dacs> howdy
[13:42] <cfhowlett> Dacs, greetings
[13:42] <bunduru> when i do sudo lshw -C network it seems to be there "UNCLAIMED"
[13:42] <bunduru> hey
[13:42] <TIBS02> ello
[13:42] <ab0030> hi
[13:42] <ab0030> who's it going ?
[13:43] <TIBS02> anyone tell me if the ubuntu is mini install does it install from the net
[13:43] <TIBS02> ?
[13:43] <DJones> TIBS02: Mostly from the net
[13:43] <DJones> !minimal | TIBS02
[13:43] <LjL> TIBS02: the Mini ISO installs (mostly) from the network, yes
[13:43] <Dacs> if i have two boxes one is running M$ and the other is running ubuntu. Ubuntu box is head less, and in the same network as M$. how can i export ubuntu destop to windows machine please
[13:43] <TIBS02> wicked thankies
[13:43] <TIBS02> ill install that now
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Dacs, export?  you mean to install it?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !px3
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !pxe
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !install
[13:44] <djdie> Pici: hahah very sorry about that traduction = translation in french
[13:45] <djdie> I looking for a translation software for ubuntu/linux when I select text and I do right click, I can choose translation wich open a soft or a browser web windows (or whatever) with the translation of the selection
[13:46] <heavyammo> djdie, I don;t really thing that such piece of software exists, I barely get what you are trying to say though
[13:47] <heavyammo> like, in what programs do you want to have that
[13:47] <cfhowlett> djdie, google translate
[13:47] <bunduru> ubuntu isn't playing nice with my wireless cards
[13:48] <maxklim> djdie: try goldendict
[13:48] <djdie> cfhowlett: yes i have it, but i looking for the same but in the Operation Systme level
[13:48] <djdie> maxklim: ok i'll try it
[13:48] <djdie> thanks
[13:48] <cfhowlett> djdie, Sorry, can't help much.  You CAN install additional language support
[13:48] <maxklim> djdie: you are welcome!
[13:49] <cfhowlett> perhaps run 2 logins: one in language 1, one in language 2??
[13:49] <heavyammo> djdie, yeah why don;t you get ubuntu in french...
[13:49] <auronandace> djdie: it depends on the application you are using
[13:50] <tiago_> Hi
[13:50] <zughdsdsa> Hi, is there anybody who can explain me, what the kernel parameter timer_migration does? Thanks in advance
[13:50] <JoseGabriel> Hello Everyone. I'm having problems installing a network printer. After I chose it, it looks for a driver, then neither gutenprint nor local driver do anything. After I click Forwards it just stays there.
[13:50] <Dacs> cfhowlett: i want to pull ubuntu destop
[13:50] <cfhowlett> tiago_, greetings
[13:50] <JoseGabriel> Any ideas?
[13:50] <JoseGabriel> Perhaps command line alternative to do it?
[13:50] <tiago_> do you know in which channel I can ask for help in a simple bash script?
[13:50] <Dacs> cfhowlett: graphical interface
[13:51] <Pici> tiago_: #bash
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Dacs, you want to install unity in windows?  ???
[13:51] <djdie> auronandace: when i select a piece of text (whatever software), when i rick-click on, i can choose translation en->fr in the menu
[13:52] <tiago_> thanks
[13:52] <tiago_> #bash
[13:52] <tiago_> how do I change channel? p
[13:52] <tiago_> how do I change channel? :p
[13:52] <tiago_> I haven't used IRC for years now
[13:52] <DJones> tiago_: /join channelname
[13:52] <maxklim> tiago_: use "/join #bash"
[13:53] <tiago_> thanks!
[13:53] <tiago_> it worked!
[13:54] <auronandace> djdie: yes, i think that feature would depend on the application (rather than the os)
[13:55] <dhanu> hello is any body there
[13:55] <maxklim> dhanu: yep
[13:56] <bunduru> lol ...yay for ndiswrapper
[14:01] <zughdsdsa> mhh, is there nobody which can explain me the parameter timer_migration?  Where can I get information about this parameter?  I'm using Duckduckgo and google for more than an hour now :(
[14:03] <DJones> zughdsdsa: It might be worth asking in ##linux somebody there may have an idea, its probably pretty rare most people here will have come across it if they're not compiling kernels (which is what I assume you're doing)
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:04] <maxklim> BluesKaj: hey!
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Hi maxklim
[14:04] <DJones> zughdsdsa: Maybe this helps though http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0809.2/0041.html
[14:05] <dhanu> where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?
[14:05] <dhanu> many doubts
[14:05] <JoseGabriel> Can anybody help me install a network printer. Seems like the gui installer is failing.
[14:05] <zughdsdsa> Thanks. Honestly I'm having an performance issue. One of our systems is causing a high load after some time. After some investigation with top and diagrams from nagios we saw, that the migration-processes are causing the problem. We got this problem after updating to 12.4.3 from 10.4
[14:06] <JoseGabriel> After selecting use local driver and clicking Forward it doesn't do anything.
[14:06] <dhanu>  where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?
[14:06] <dhanu>  where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?
[14:06] <dhanu>  where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?
[14:06] <DJones> !repeat | dhanu
[14:06] <JoseGabriel> Isntead of asking me where the ppd file is.
[14:07] <Touhou11> !repeat|dhanu
[14:07] <dhanu>  where to install boot loader when installing ubuntu 12.04?
[14:08] <Hanumaan> geirha, I have just kept HISTSIZE=10000  HISTFILESIZE=200000000 these 2 line in start of the ~/.bashrc and restarted but still only 500 are remembered ..
[14:09] <geirha> Hanumaan: Make sure they're not changed further down in the file
[14:09] <JoseGabriel> Maybe a command line solution to my issue?
[14:10] <geirha> Hanumaan: and make sure that e.g. echo "$HISTSIZE"  outputs the correct number
[14:10] <Dacs> is there a way i can access my ubuntu desktop from windows
[14:10] <maxklim> Dacs: VNC
[14:10] <maxklim> Dacs: x11vnc
[14:12] <sabgenton> is there a way to tell apt-get update to ingnore gpg keys completely?
[14:14] <sabgenton> I tried --allow-unauthenticated  but it still didn't work
[14:15] <Dacs> maxklim: is it possible to do it with Cygwin
[14:17] <fcuk112> in terminator i click preferences and the app crashes, anyone experience this issue?
[14:17] <maxklim> Dacs: you can use native VNC clients and servers for both windows and linux
[14:18] <JoseGabriel> I do get the following output from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6437659/
[14:19] <guest-NZfFvS> You need to join pass key (localhost).
[14:19] <guest-NZfFvS> Bye!
[14:19] <Touhou11> Dacs: If you want to run specific graphical Linux applications on Windows, you get better performance using XMing (a Windows X Server)
[14:19] <guest-NZfFvS> Soon for chat!
[14:20] <djdie> quit
[14:28] <Gorroth> i'm always waaaaaaay too unhappy with that
[14:28] <Gorroth> i like firing up a VM instead
[14:29] <junka> if F32 faster than ext4?
[14:29] <junka> FAT32*
[14:30] <Touhou11> junka: No. Also EXT4 has significantly more features as a filesystem than FAT32. You should only use FAT32 where you need cross-OS compatibility, as it's supported by almost everything
[14:31] <user234> Hi, does anyone know if there is a way to get ifconfig or iwconfig in crouton for chromebooks??
[14:32] <junka> Touhou11, thanks. Is there a better filesystem than EXT4?
[14:32] <Touhou11> junka: EXT4 is a good general purpose filesystem. There are other specialized filesystems which are better in specific scenarios, but unless you're running a large server farm I wouldn't worry about it
[14:33] <dracan_lin> @junka, if you're a home user, stick to ext4
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an alternative anti-theft package like 'prey', any sugestions?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[14:33] <dracan_lin> unless you have older hardware... if so, get yourself ext2
[14:33] <Totorus> Hello all,
[14:33] <dracan_lin> hi Totorus!
[14:34] <Totorus>  I wanted to create my samba4 package to use version 4.0.3 on Ubuntu precise. I changed debian / rules:  ""--bundled-libraries=NONE,pytevent,iniparser,tdb,tevent,ldb,pyldb-util"" and when I run dpkg-buildpackage I in this error: dh_install --sourcedir=/var/lib/debuild/jgoffaux/samba4-4.0.3+dfsg1/debian/tmp --list-missing --fail-missing
[14:34] <Totorus> dh_install: usr/share/man/man8/tdbbackup.8 exists in /var/lib/debuild/xxxxxxx/samba4-4.0.3+dfsg1/debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere
[14:34] <Totorus> Do you have any idea
[14:34] <Totorus> dracan_lin, hi
[14:35] <maxklim> Totorus: hey!
[14:35] <Touhou11> Totorus: Have you looked for a PPA of Samba4 instead?
[14:35] <dracan_lin> hi Totorus... no idea on your question! keep asking and posting on forums
[14:36] <Totorus> Touhou11, PPA ?
[14:37] <Totorus> dracan_lin, ;)
[14:37] <Touhou11> Totorus: Personal Package Archive, software which has been already compiled to run on Ubuntu by someone else. It lets you install newer versions of specific software you want
[14:37] <Touhou11> Totorus: Usually easier than compiling yourself
[14:39] <Totorus> Touhou11, Thls, I look site web
[14:39] <Totorus> website*
[14:39] <MonkeyDu1t> Totorus  but: a ppa is not screened or controlled, so it may make your system unstable
[14:40] <Touhou11> Yes, I should have pointed that out.
[14:44] <makara> experience with VPNs anyone?
[14:45] <user__> libreoffice --calc %U -------- X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) <--- any quick fixes for this?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> makara: client ofr server?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> user__: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> makara: ofr = or
[14:46] <makara> ActionParsnip, i simply want to setup an OpenVPN between my pc and a server. I'm following http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9916?page=0,2
[14:46] <user__> ActionParsnip, saucy
[14:46] <makara> ActionParsnip, but I want to use public/private keys
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> makara: what are you using the VPN to achieve?
[14:47] <sabgenton> what is ubuntus equivalent to  debian-keyring?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> user__: tried renaming the libreoffice configuration folder then relaunch the application
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: gnome-keyring
[14:47] <sabgenton> thanks
[14:48] <makara> ActionParsnip, all sorts of things
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> makara: for web access etc you can use Squid through an SSH tunnel
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> makara: not used vpn in Ubuntu myself.
[14:49] <SuperLag> AMD Xconfig resets on every reboot. :(
[14:50] <makara> ActionParsnip, I want to use a VPN, if only for my education
[14:50] <user__> ActionParsnip, any hints as to the folder location
[14:50] <makara> ActionParsnip, I was not convinced with Squid. It's config file is enormous.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> user__: in ~/.config maybe, or just in ~
[14:50] <azerus> Does anyone know if using winbind to bind to my ActiveDirectory will register multiple hostnames to the DC's DNS?
[14:50] <SuperLag> I'm using the fglrx drivers, and I've asked in #ati... but all I get is <crickets>.
[14:50] <makara> ActionParsnip, so I'm looking into Nginx for reverse proxying my website. But even that isn't going so smoothly
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> user__: no bad thing, are there not videos on YouTube etc on this?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> makara: I use squid+ssh, the only line I changed was allow from all hosts :)
[14:51] <user__> ActionParsnip, on what, the original error i posted or libreoffice dir
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> user__: the libreoffice directory in ~/.config , rename it then launch the application. Is it better?
[14:52] <user__> ActionParsnip, no libreoffice under ~/.config
[14:52] <sabgenton> ActionParsnip: is there a way to bypass public key unavailability   (I'm experimenting in vm with different repos) ?
[14:53] <user__> or lib-anything
[14:53] <makara> ActionParsnip, :) well I need to know squid too. in time....
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> user__: is there a hidden folder in $HOME then?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: just import the GPG key (I assume you mean for a PPA)
[14:56] <junka> Touhou11, what about JFS? I read it has low CPU usage
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22456/jfs-vs-ext4-vs-ext3
[14:58] <sabgenton> ActionParsnip:  no I'm messing with debian unstable  gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys bla seems to be working
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> junka: interesting stuff
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: debian isnt supported here
[14:58] <sabgenton> ActionParsnip: but is there any way you can just  turn of  the checking?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: ask in #debian
[14:59] <Touhou11> junka: I used JFS for a while. You're talking about tiny amounts of performance though, rarely going to notice any difference tbh
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> junka: Touhou11: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1204_fs&num=3
[14:59] <molgrum> aptitude says i have jockey-gtk installed, terminal says it is not found, what do i do?
[14:59] <user__> ActionParsnip, not that i see, this is libreoffice preinstalled in saucy
[14:59] <user__> fwiw
[14:59] <sabgenton> ActionParsnip: but i'm asking about apt-get's update mechanism ...  regardless of what your updating
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: you are usig Debian, Debian is not supported here
[15:00] <sabgenton> the distro is ubuntu
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: 'debian unstable' is not 'ubuntu'
[15:01] <MonkeyDu1t> sabgenton  what's the ouput of     cat /etc/issue
[15:01] <jhutchins_wk> sabgenton: This is exactly the kind of issue that is different between distros.
[15:01] <sabgenton> no but what if I want to make my own ppa, ppas come from debian unstable a lot of the time
[15:01] <jpds> sabgenton: You can't turn off the checking, but you can ignore it
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: no, PPAs are made by people compileing their own code and making deb files
[15:02] <sabgenton> jpds: how do you ignore it?
[15:02] <jpds> sabgenton: No, PPAs are only for Ubuntu.
[15:02] <sabgenton> jpds: but some are made from debian unstable
[15:02] <jpds> sabgenton: sudo apt-get install -y --force-yes <package>
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: that's their porogative, PPAs are also not supported here
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | sabgenton
[15:02] <SuperLag> Okay. I have a new AMD video card for which I'm using the fglrx drivers. The settings get reset to defaults every singe #$$#@#$#$@#$ time I reboot. I'm signed in. I've got the config set up how I want it. How can I have root copy that xorg.conf file into place, so the *proper* configuration is there before X loads, and I get the *proper* settings every time?
[15:03] <sabgenton> jpds: what about apt-get update if it fails on public keys
[15:03] <molgrum> reinstalling jockey-gtk did not help :(
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478310 has some useful commands
[15:04] <genii> !xorgconf | SuperLag
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:05] <sabgenton> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[15:05] <sabgenton> im not on debian
[15:05] <sabgenton> all though I have debian allso
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: then why say it is 'debian unstable' earlier, then say it's ubuntu
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: it makes no sense at all
[15:06] <sabgenton> unrelatedly
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: then keep things tht are relatedly', yeah?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: if you can give the full output ofL   sudo apt-get update      I can advise
[15:07] <junka> can i disable journaling on ext4?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> junka: you can convert it to Ext2, yes
[15:07] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: that generates a new config. I already have a working config. The problem is that it gets reset every reboot.
[15:07] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: I want the working settings to *stick*.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: is the file mounted read only? The one that /etc/X11 is on
[15:07] <maria33> ciao
[15:08] <queretaro> According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates there are several ways to enable automatic security updates... Which one is the one Ubuntu uses by default?
[15:08] <maria33> !list
[15:08] <dracan_lin> junka, ext4 is a journaling filesystem! no point changing anything, unless you're low on resources (CPU,HDD)
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: use http://pastie.org to host the text
[15:08] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: no sir. 644 root:root
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: but if you run:  mount     is the file system readonly
[15:09] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: and / is mounted rw
[15:09] <junka> dracan_lin, i'm on a netbook with o low cpu. Should I switch to ext2?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: the ACL doesnt show readonly-ness
[15:10] <dracan_lin> @junka, I'm on a Laptop AMD athlon 1200! I'm not sure you'll see a performance boost with ext2
[15:10] <dracan_lin> @junka didn't mention I have ext4 puppy linux
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: once we have the output, we can advise
[15:11] <junka> I see. Maybe I should leave it as it is
[15:12] <dracan_lin> @junka, brobably yes! browse the web to see advantages and disadvantages
[15:13] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: not that I can see, no
[15:13] <sabgenton> ActionParsnip: http://sprunge.us/WhOj
[15:13] <dracan_lin> @junka, if you want to see performance, get a cheap 35$ ssd and install only necessary files and the os!
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: mixing debian and ubuntu repos will cause you a LOT of issues
[15:14] <sabgenton> I'm just asking does apt-get have a 'ingore keys'  option
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 8B48AD6246925553
[15:14] <jost> Is there a way to get the network manager deliver verbose log entries? Using it via CLI would be ok
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: just import it
[15:14] <sabgenton> thanks
[15:14] <jhutchins_wk> sabgenton: Options like that would depend on whether it was apt-get from Debian or apt-get from Ubuntu.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: you will get a big mess and nobody will support you
[15:15] <sabgenton> I would still be interested as to how apt works  like is there a ingore
[15:15] <jost> I'm trying to connect to a VPN, but the connection fails... the log entries don'T help
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: they can be ignored, the GUI package installers will just warn you, they are not essential
[15:15] <sabgenton> jhutchins_wk: it's ubuntu, ubuntu apt-get
[15:16] <babilen> sabgenton: You are probably aware that mixing distributions like that is, well, slightly suboptimal, aren't you?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: btw, your 'ubuntu' distro is not supported here as you are adding Debian sources to your OS
[15:16] <sabgenton> oh
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: personally I think its a debian box with Ubuntu repos added, which I doubt the debian guys will touch
[15:16] <sabgenton> so  that was just a warning
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: yes the GPG key thing is a warning
[15:16] <sabgenton> as in it does nothing?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: yes, its just a nice to have
[15:17] <sabgenton> so I don't actually need to get rid of the warning
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: no
[15:17] <sabgenton> I see
[15:17] <sabgenton> thanks that was really all I wanted to understand
[15:18] <sabgenton> I've had it with purly ubuntu stuff before
[15:18] <sabgenton> but not recently
[15:18] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: you know what *amazes* me? Uninstalling the fglrx *crap* and simply using the radeon driver, as well as the Display options in System Settings... JUST WORKS. I would have figured that the stuff straight from AMD would have worked *better*.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: not always the case
[15:19] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: a little frustrated... can you tell? :)
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: there is a legacy PPA for 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx ATI GPUs which helps in Precise
[15:19] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: which part isn't always the case? that the closed-source workes better?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: sometimes the opensource can run better
[15:19] <pl_> hallo  pi need help , how do download yahoo  messenger in ubuntu
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> pl_: pidgin can chat on Yahoo
[15:21] <pl_>  thnks let me try it now
[15:23] <farhang> Hi every one
[15:23] <sabgenton> ActionParsnip: thanks for the one liner handy to have
[15:23] <farhang> How can I enable the sound of xubuntu 13.10 ???
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> sabgenton: I have it in a script, just replace the hex code with $1 and you can use it to import lots of keys :)
[15:24] <farhang> How can I enable the sound of xubuntu 13.10 ???
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> farhang: what is the output of:    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:25] <A_I_> hi
[15:26] <A_I_> is http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop a live CD ? can I run Ubuntu without actually installing it on the machine ?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: yes, it will run in RA<
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> RAM*
[15:26] <dracan_lin> @farhang: you're probably on pulseaudio! does your soundcard even work?
[15:26] <dracan_lin> @ Α_Ι yes, you can boot with it and take it for a spin ;-)
[15:26] <A_I_> ok, I have some datas to retreive on an installed server which I've forgot the password... :-/
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: why is there not a backup of the data?
[15:27] <A_I_> ActionParsnip  because ... :-)
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: what is the drive IDE, or motor fails, where is your data?
[15:27] <fjygj`gjhgj> hello
[15:27] <farhang> ActionParsnip, should i write all those together ??
[15:28] <fjygj`gjhgj> !list
[15:28] <dracan_lin> @A_I get something lighter like lubuntu
[15:28] <farhang> dracan_lin, yup,
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: think about it, 1Tb HDD costs peanuts now and will give a solid backup media
[15:28] <farhang> dracan_lin, i just reinstalled my ubuntu,
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> farhang: copy and paste it to the terminal as one big command, don't try and retype it
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> farhang: I assume you ran full updates
[15:28] <LucidGuy> Anyone want to recommend where to purchase a SSL cert?  rapidSSL any good?
[15:28] <LucidGuy> Cheap and fast is a priority
[15:28] <ikonia> LucidGuy: not really the function of this channel
[15:28] <A_I_> dracan_lin lubuntu also live CD ?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:29] <impulze> when installing libcurl4-gnutls-dev:i386 it wants to remove libcurl4-gnutls-dev, why is that?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: yes Lubuntu is also a liveCD
[15:29] <ikonia> A_I_: any livecd will work just fine, I'm not sure why you are being directed to lubuntu
[15:29] <farhang> ActionParsnip, I already updated it. thanks man. now I should restart ? or anything else to do ?
[15:30] <A_I_> ikonia what live CD would you advice me ?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> farhang: run the command and a URL will be generated, post that URL in here
[15:30] <ikonia> A_I_: anyone you want, it really doesn't matter,
[15:30] <farhang> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b6d3853dbfdf05080e0b31e415684b6a0dcdc54f
[15:31] <farhang> ActionParsnip, and then ??
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> farhang: gimme a sec....jeez
[15:31] <A_I_> what's the smallest ISO live cd ?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> farhang: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> farhang: reboot to test
[15:32] <mauro_> buonasera
[15:32] <ZIPY> A_I_: puppylinux is very small
[15:32] <kaksddkf> My question is from any linux geek here,  i am a noob in linux but discovered a way to make a fast performing system, by default in nautilus left pane, while mounting NTFS partitions ntfs-3g drivers loads , i installed paragon NTFS drivers for better performance and they are providing better performance, what do i want to make paragon drivers default  drivers while mounting any ntfs partition, instead of ntfs-3g. How to do that?  anybody please help or guide wh
[15:32] <bean> DSL is probably smaller.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> A_I_: tinycore or xpud
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> tinyis 12Mb :)
[15:33] <A_I_> :-)
[15:33] <A_I_> thanks a lot guys !
[15:33] <Touhou11> LucidGuy: I purchased from http://www.instantssl.com before, they were the cheapest after researching. Not the slickest customer service, but the certificate is fine
[15:33] <kaksddkf> i also uninstalled ntfs-3g but then kernel read only driver came into effect
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: SSL purchasing is offtopic here
[15:34] <dracan_lin> @Α_Ι, I agree, any ligtweight live distro would do!
[15:34] <ikonia> kaksddkf: the mount option -t dictates the kenrel moudule used, within nautlius that is different, you'd have to research where it takes those options, I suspect it comes from dbus
[15:34] <kaksddkf> ikonia: it comes from udisk i think
[15:35] <ikonia> kaksddkf: what is udisk ?
[15:36] <LucidGuy> Touhou11, thanks
[15:39] <kiwi_> hi ... i cant set the 'roll up' (toggle shade) on titlebar double click .. even though i made respective settings using gnome-tweak-tool and ubuntu-tweak ... is it a compiz issue ... any idea?  ubuntu 12.04-64
[15:40] <jcz> what is the compression of vmlinuz kernel found in /boot/ ?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> kiwi_: ask in #compiz too
[15:40] <kiwi_> ok
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> jcz: use file command on the files, it may tell you
[15:40] <ubuntuuser> hello guys
[15:40] <kiwi_> the window maximes on double click, though it shouldnt
[15:41] <jcz> ActionParsnip: it just says that its data
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> jcz: bum
[15:41] <ubuntuuser> I'm using an Ubuntu-based distro now. One question. How do I install gambas2 on my PC?
[15:41] <jcz> ActionParsnip: ?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> jcz: just an exclamation of exasperation
[15:42] <ikonia> ubuntuuser: exactly what distribution are you using
[15:42] <kaksddkf> ActionParsnip:  i think you are a great linux PRO.
[15:43] <ubuntuuser> Zorin OS 7 @ikonia
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: not supported here
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: ask in #zorinos
[15:43] <ikonia> ubuntuuser: ok, so #zorin is the correct support channel
[15:43] <ikonia> ah #zorinos sorry
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> kaksddkf: been around the block a few times, thee are better than me by a LOT
[15:43] <ubuntuuser> sure then. I thought I might get some support since Zorin is UBuntu-based but thanks anyways
[15:43] <ollie-> ubuntuuser you can try the ubuntu software centre
[15:44] <ikonia> ubuntuuser: sorry about that
[15:44] <kaksddkf> ActionParsnip: i have seen you many times here, solving difficult problems of the guys/gals
[15:44] <Rory> !cookie | ActionParsnip
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> kaksddkf: www.duckduckgo.com www.google.com is all I use....
[15:44] <santosh> Hey its off-topic but I wanna make friend from US. :P
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> santosh: try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[15:44] <ubuntuuser> I can talk about Xubuntu here right?
[15:45] <ollie-> santosh go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <Rory> ubuntuuser: Might be better suited to #xubuntu
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: yes, Xubuntu is a supported distro from Canonical. Zorin is not
[15:45] <ollie-> oh damn, he did it before me
[15:46] <ollie-> is there a gui  to change the boot screen?
[15:46] <ollie-> or loading..
[15:46] <kaksddkf> ollie-: use super-boot-manager
[15:46] <ubuntuuser> Great. So I burned a xubuntu 13.10 iso to a CD today and stuck in into my CD drive. Tried to boot it off the bootloader (F12) but drive did not detect anything and went straight to GRUB
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[15:47] <impradeepy> ollie try plymouth manager
[15:47] <ubuntuuser> I burned it at x16 speed so
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[15:48] <ollie-> i didnt see super-boot-manager in the software centre, so i will try plymouth manager
[15:48] <Roshan> hello, is it a right forum to discuss the troubles with ati ??
[15:48] <wurm> Salutations.
[15:48] <ubuntuuser> and how do I do it (sorry, Linux NOOB) @ActionParship
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ollie-: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> ollie-: you can choose from the themes you have installed
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | ubuntuuser
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuuser: without MD5 test, how did you know the data was complete and cosistant??
[15:49] <ollie-> where can i find alternative themes?
[15:49] <impradeepy> ollie sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ingalex/super-boot-manager
[15:49] <ollie-> oh wait, i will google this
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> ollie-: there are some in the repos
[15:49] <ikonia> adding that PPA is a bad idea
[15:50] <impradeepy> sudo apt-get update
[15:50] <impradeepy> sudo apt-get install super-boot-manager
[15:50] <Roshan> the unity desktop is having trouble wherea s gnome-shell and xubuntu-desktop si working...
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: considering I gave the command to set the theme, seems a bit pointless
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Roshan: Gnome is the desktop, Unity is a shell :)
[15:50] <impradeepy> agreed
[15:50] <ollie-> "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ingalex/super-boot-manager/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Package"
[15:50] <ikonia> impradeepy: adding that PPA is a bad idea.
[15:51] <Roshan> ActionParsnip gnome-shell is working ..
[15:51] <ikonia> impradeepy: doing it blindly is an even worse one
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> ollie-: doesnt support Saucy http://ppa.launchpad.net/ingalex/super-boot-manager/ubuntu/dists
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: ^
[15:51] <impradeepy> hmm but without testing
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: only goes up to Raring
[15:51] <impradeepy> i am using 13.04
[15:51] <impradeepy> yes
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: ollie- isnt
[15:51] <Roshan> ActionParsnip i was puzzled to see why lspci -vvnn | grep VGA didnt show ATI?AMD whereas fglrx showed ..
[15:52] <impradeepy> but we should try atleast to add something to our repository sometimes it did works
[15:52] <tapia> Hi. I'm having some problems setting a bluetooth speakers
[15:52] <ollie-> hmm
[15:52] <tapia> is this the right place to ask?
[15:52] <Roshan> ActionParnsip: in guest mode , the unity launcher and top panel is coming but no backgrund ..
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: the PPA you advised doesnt support the release the user has, so why advise it?
[15:53] <impradeepy> reset unity
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Roshan: Unity is a plugin for Compiz, Gnome shell uses mutter (might be metacity) either way, fewer issues as junk Compiz isnt running
[15:54] <impradeepy> actually was not knowing
[15:54] <ubuntuuser> it's the correct MD5
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: makes sense to ask first doesnt it
[15:54] <farhang> ActionParsnip, hi, it hasn't been solved yet :\
[15:54] <impradeepy> agreed
[15:55] <impradeepy> cheers :)
[15:55] <ubuntuuser> 1048df77899ca8d9d6ba23427b4d6259 (xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso)
[15:55] <Roshan> ActionParsnip: ya , but how to get opengl module loaded?? my account was blank but in guest modeit is partial blank ..
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> farhang: ok, remove the line from the file, you will need:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf     to get write access
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Roshan: which release are you using?
[15:55] <Roshan> ubuntu 13.10 amd64
[15:56] <Roshan> ActionParsnip : ubuntu 13.10 amd64
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Roshan: not sure then dude. Are there any bugs reported? IMHO Compiz is a joke and should be ditched
[15:56] <impradeepy> lol
[15:57] <Roshan> ActionParsnip: i hv not tried ubuntu 13.04 .. it is first ubuntu release , i want to try web apps ..
[15:57] <Roshan> ActionParnsip: so Unity is a joke??
[15:57] <ubuntuuser> welp, MD5 is correct er
[15:58] <ollie-> hmm.. i cannot (or dont know how) to add any themes to the boot loader thingy
[15:58] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, your opinion of compiz is not relevant to support.  I'm using it (with xfce) as a WM with Emerald as the decorator and it works extremely well for my usage.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: i can still express my opinion
[16:00] <Roshan> mbeierl, ok .. let me try the problem of compiz with amd
[16:00] <Roshan> mbeierl, my amd driver is Radeon HD 8600M series
[16:01] <maniong> I am currently starting my internet connection via a simple shell script which runs "sudo wvdial" (the script is owned by root with a no password clause in sudoers file) but when I run it it keeps a window open titled "sudo". How can I make this run silently in the background?
[16:01] <wheatthin> Roshan, you can determine whichi plugin that compiz uses by installing ccsm and disabling each plugin one at a time
[16:01] <impradeepy> ollie ve u installed themes from synaptics?
[16:02] <auronandace> mbeierl: isn't emerald no longer maintained?
[16:02] <wheatthin> Roshan, perhaps only one plugin is responsible for the crappy performance
[16:02] <zykotick9> !emerald | auronandace yes.
[16:02] <Roshan> wheatthin, oh ..ok
[16:02] <sandman13> can't really decide between ubuntu and mint
[16:02] <Roshan> maniong ..
[16:03] <Roshan> maniong, put & at the end of the command ..
[16:03] <Roshan> maniong, there u change it to background job :)
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> sandman13: the mint community is significantly smaller than Ubuntu's
[16:03] <maniong> Roshan, oh ok thanks =)
[16:03] <impradeepy> sandman13  ubuntu
[16:03] <wheatthin> not that size matters :P
[16:03] <impradeepy> lol
[16:04] <maniong> sandman13, try the live cd's for both and decide for yourself... they both have their own merits =)
[16:04] <Roshan> i think Linux mint switched to debain to avoid the ubuntu security updates .. still theu get debain security patches
[16:04] <Roshan> and they are even
[16:04] <sandman13> i have run both but cannot decide
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> sandman13  flip a coin
[16:05] <impradeepy> sandman13 try fedora u ll increase ur confussion
[16:05] <Roshan> maniong , u can try learning about hot plug
[16:06] <Roshan> maniong, em trying this .. instead of modprobe everytime
[16:07] <maniong> Roshan, wvdial isn't an elegant fix but it's the best I can figure out with this mobile broadband for now.... it's..... utilitarian >_>
[16:07] <wheatthin> maniong, can add it to /etc/modules.d to autoload
[16:07] <longviewbits> I'm using Pidgin, and in Preferences... I've got "Show System Tray Icon" set to Always. But it doesn't show up on the Menu bar.
[16:08] <sandman13> impradeepy, i have installed ubuntu
[16:08] <Roshan> wheatthin: that way it does modprobe everytime ..or hv to do with modprobe.conf ??
[16:08] <impradeepy> so no more confusion? sandman13
[16:09] <wheatthin> Roshan, just add it to modules.d, and it'll load the module at boot every time
[16:09] <Roshan> wheatthin: does it automatically wvdial everytime when it is hot-plugged or i hv to execute it??
[16:09] <wheatthin> ahh, you have to execute it
[16:09] <maniong> ???? I'm not loading any kernel modules just a ppp script
[16:09] <wheatthin> wvdial*
[16:09] <wheatthin> ahh, then do it with cron
[16:09] <xangua> longviewbits: if you are using unity, it will not...pidgin is however integrated to the message indicator (envelope) with the package pidgin-libnotify enabled. If is not, you need to enable it in Tools>Plugins>search for Libnotify
[16:10] <Roshan> wheatthin: ok .. let me see ,
[16:10] <sandman13> impradeepy: yes and no
[16:10] <impradeepy> sandman13 13.10?
[16:10] <maniong> Oh so I can use cron to automagically run wvdial whenever I plug it in?
[16:11] <Phixab> hello there
[16:11] <longviewbits> xangua: Libnotify popups?
[16:11] <lecoeus> what's up people
[16:12] <Phixab> i have aprob with xsane to operate the scanner of my canon pixma mp230. Found info about compiling and replace some sane-backend files to have a more updated version to supporet the scanner
[16:12] <Phixab> problöem is that the suggestion using git to get the sources doesnt connect at all
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: did you check the Canon Europe website for support? They make debs for some of their products.
[16:13] <Phixab> already donne it and installed
[16:14] <Phixab> doesnnt make xsane to work or detect the scanner
[16:14] <Phixab> git clone git://git.debian.org/sane/sane-backends.git
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: tried simplescan?
[16:14] <Phixab> that command ddint work to conenct to download the sources i need to upgrade
[16:14] <Phixab> none of the scanner apps worlks
[16:15] <Phixab> "no scanners detected" on any app strying tooperate the scanner
[16:15] <Phixab> thr printing worksw
[16:15] <Phixab> just the scanner that isnt detected yet
[16:16] <Phixab> and the sane-backends should be on version at least :
[16:16] <Phixab> git clone git://git.debian.org/sane/sane-backends.git
[16:17] <Phixab> root@lappis:~# scanimage -V
[16:17] <Phixab> scanimage (sane-backends) 1.0.22; backend version 1.0.22
[16:17] <Phixab> should be at least 1.0.23 to be able to operate the scanner i have
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:17] <Phixab> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177594
[16:17] <Phixab> read there and the info aboput the git instruction
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:18] <Phixab> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[16:19] <jhutchins_wk> Phixab: A rather common problem with recent releases is that the permissions on the scanner device are root only, or a group that the user is not automatically added to.
[16:19] <maniong_> Roshan, adding an ampersand after the command didn't seem to help it still runs in a terminal window titled "sudo"
[16:19] <Phixab> sure , but thescanimage shows too old version
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> Phixab: You might check /dev and see if the scanner is there, and you might also look through dmesg to see if there are any pertinent messages.
[16:20] <Phixab> it wont be detected/operate properly anyways afaik from google
[16:20] <Roshan> maniong .. press enter now
[16:20] <Roshan> u ll see the prompt ..now ..
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/sane; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    will give sane-backends 1.0.23
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/sane?field.series_filter=precise
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=sane-backends
[16:21] <jhutchins_wk> maniong_: cron is strictly a time-based scheduler.  udev is event driven, it can take actions when a device is connected.  There are other systems that can take actions when a connection comes up.
[16:22] <Roshan> jhutchins_wk: cool .it s a lot to learn
[16:22] <Phixab> ty for the backends link
[16:22] <chrisjackonline> Salut a tous comment installer flash player sous ubuntu studio ???
[16:23] <jhutchins_wk> Roshan: hotplug and udev are variations on the same kind of approach.
[16:23] <k1l_> !fr | chrisjackonline
[16:23] <Roshan> jhutchins_wk: i suppose udev is based on hotplug??
[16:23] <Roshan> jhutchins_wk: i mean hotplug is provided by kernel
[16:24] <Phixab> it clone git://git.debian.org/sane/sane-backends.git
[16:24] <Phixab> doesnt work for me
[16:24] <Phixab> swerver down ?
[16:24] <jhutchins_wk> Roshan: Not sure how to explain the differences.  udev is a lower-level, more modern system.  hotplug was an interim system that preceeded it but still has it's uses.
[16:25] <farhang> ActionParsnip, hi again, sorry i disconnected.
[16:25] <jhutchins_wk> Phixab: alioth is down.  Check in #debian.
[16:25] <farhang> ActionParsnip, after gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  what should i do ????
[16:26] <gazarsgo> how do i evaluate the output of free -m ? what's buffers/cache -/+ mean ?
[16:26] <k1l_> gazarsgo: linuxatemyram.com explains it quite well
[16:26] <gazarsgo> haha awesome
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> farhang: remove the last line, which is the one the command added
[16:28] <farhang> ActionParsnip, is this it ?? options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad
[16:28] <VsioZashibis> hi. someone just shared a folder with me using ubuntu one account. This folder has many many files. Is there a way to download an entire folder instead of individual files ?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> farhang: yes, then reboot
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> farhang: then run:  alsamixer   and check all levels are maxxed and unmuted
[16:29] <Phixab> after ive added ppa:nightuser/sane-backends-backports into the other sources , can i use this right off from apt-get install ??
[16:30] <Phixab> or do i have to update any kind of db first ?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Phixab: sudo apt-get update   first
[16:31] <molgrum> can i make unitys flashing icons behave like windows 7? i.e. flash the whole icon instead of just the edges?
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> molgrum  unity-tweak-tool has a lot of options and settings
[16:35] <molgrum> MonkeyDust: i'll check it out thanks
[16:36] <molgrum> i changed from gnome shell to unity and now irc doesn't play and thud-sound :(
[16:37] <molgrum> x-chat
[16:40] <heavyammo> Hi, I need some hardware help for my Acer, my replacement 8 cell battery is not charging, nor Ubuntu related, but could someone please help?
[16:40] <rune> hi
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> heavyammo: try #hardware
[16:41] <rune> somebody help install adobe flash on the firefox?
[16:41] <rune> it's not working on the fb
[16:46] <danub> hey all. It has been so long I have had to change an IP I can't remember the file location. Where is the IP config file at?
[16:46] <danub> i thought it was /etc/networks/ but none of the files in there contained IP information
[16:47] <travis> Hi
[16:47] <danub> dont tell me every one in here uses the gui...
[16:47] <danub> hi
[16:48] <genii> danub: /etc/network/interfaces
[16:48] <danub> genii: thats what i thought, but it only has the loopback address
[16:48] <genii> danub: Regardless, that's where you put them if you're doing it manually. man interfaces ...will show some examples
[16:49] <Duel> I have a question, I just installed KDE and I like it so far. After a Bit can I just Uninstall Unity?
[16:49] <danub> it's set to auto, but i have the IPs set from years ago in the gui config. it has to be reading it's info from somewhere
[16:49] <genii> !purekde | Duel
[16:49] <CADBOT> Is x forwarding fast enough to game with?
[16:50] <genii> CADBOT: Generally not
[16:50] <CADBOT> bummer. thanks!
[16:50] <zykotick9> danub: if you "real" network setting aren't in /etc/network/interfaces then you are probably using Network-Manager... i have no idea how that could be configured from terminal?  best of luck.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Duel: if you want, its quite smalla dn wont save you much space]
[16:50] <danub> zykotick9: yeah, network manager. ok, I will go look that info up. Thanks for the tip
[16:51] <Duel> ActionParsnip, Im just trying to see what one I like the most. It seems just like another Task Bar
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Duel: there are lots of options. Fun to explore
[16:53] <Duel> Yea
[16:55]  * bunduru is away: I'm now away
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> !away > bunduru
[16:57] <Duel> Anyone on Kubuntu here?
[16:58] <danub_> zykotick9: for future reference, /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/{connection_name}.
[16:58] <danub_> :)
[16:58] <wheatthin> Duel, what about it? Did you need help, or are you trying to take sensus?
[16:59] <danub_> exit
[16:59] <genii> Duel: For Kubuntu support, please visit the #kubuntu channel :)
[17:00] <Duel> wheatthin, I Just want to see more desktops, When I google Kubutu tops their all the same
[17:00] <CADBOT> Dumb question: Command line equivalent of right click run?
[17:00] <CADBOT> ./file isn't doing what I want
[17:00] <wheatthin> Duel, then this isn't the place.
[17:01] <Duel> Where would I need to go?
[17:01] <Ari-Yang> CADBOT: if you're on unity click the dashboard and search for terminal
[17:01] <wheatthin> not a support channel, that's for sure.
[17:01] <Pici> Duel: #kubuntu-offtopic maybe?
[17:01] <lecoeus> Duel: you want to see kde screenshots?
[17:01] <Ari-Yang> CADBOT: ctrl+alt+t should work tooo
[17:01] <CADBOT> Ari-Yang: I'm already in the terminal
[17:01] <CADBOT> if I have a file named x
[17:01] <Ari-Yang> CADBOT: oh sh ./file
[17:02] <Ari-Yang> iirc...
[17:02] <CADBOT> awesome thanks
[17:02] <Ari-Yang> np
[17:02] <CADBOT> Nope no go
[17:02] <CADBOT> right click run (when going through the GUI) works
[17:02] <CADBOT> sh ./filename no go
[17:02] <Pici> CADBOT: What is the file?
[17:02] <Duel> lecoeus, Yea
[17:03] <lecoeus> Duel: try http://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn
[17:03] <wheatthin> CADBOT, is this a script you made yourself?
[17:03] <lecoeus> it's not just kde but you can filter if you like
[17:03] <Duel> lecoeus, Yes?
[17:03] <CADBOT> Nope. and its executable type
[17:03] <Pici> CADBOT: What is the file?
[17:03] <Pici> CADBOT: Is it a binary? A script?
[17:04] <CADBOT> It's a binary
[17:04] <CADBOT> Not a script
[17:04] <Pici> CADBOT: And what happens when you try to run it on the terminal?
[17:05] <CADBOT> ./filename spits out some path command line info
[17:05] <CADBOT> but doesn't open up any windows like when I double click on it or right click run it
[17:05] <jhutchins_wk> CADBOT: What does file <filename> tell you it is?
[17:05] <wheatthin> might need to specify something
[17:06] <CADBOT> ELF 64-bit LSB executable, dynamically linked (uses sahred libs)
[17:06] <om26er> !logs
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> CADBOT: Try ./filename --help, also paste the actual error.
[17:07] <CADBOT> That's the funny part, it doesn't give any actual errors
[17:07] <CADBOT> I think the problem is mono is trying to open it up when I run it through the term
[17:07] <CADBOT> but something else runs it when I go through the GUI
[17:08] <CADBOT> Thanks for your help all, but I'm gonna table try to this and just run on a different file
[17:09] <CADBOT> I was only doing it to test something
[17:11] <heavyammo> Ari-Yang, thanks for the hardware channel
[17:11] <chamunks> Anyone know good software for livestreaming in ubuntu?
[17:11] <chamunks> I feel like messing about in the CLI with ffmpeg while I'm trying to stream something would be a bit unprofessional.
[17:11] <Togusa> chamunks: twitchtv/ustream/etc?
[17:13] <Togusa> i agree it's not really user friendly
[17:13] <Togusa> but once you get it working it's not much of an issue
[17:13] <Togusa> ffmpeg was the only thing working for me
[17:13] <jubale>  I'm having a problem with CPU Monitor screenlet launching 6 screenlets when I only want 3. Plus, since yesterday, two image boxes are opening which I never launched in the first place.
[17:14] <chamunks> Togusa, yeh my issue is I'd like to get my LowerThird over it and isolate only one monitor etc.
[17:15] <Togusa> well, i know there's a software called openbroadcaster but i'm not sure if they offer a linux build
[17:16] <chamunks> yeah they don't :(
[17:17] <chamunks> Well have you any advice?
[17:17] <chamunks> There doesn't seem to be much documentation on how to do this kinda stuff.
[17:17] <harsh410> hi all
[17:17] <harsh410> can any body help me in developing for ubuntu
[17:17] <harsh410> ?
[17:17] <harsh410> some sort of guidance
[17:18] <chamunks> harsh410, you must be fairly new to irc.  Generally asking the question is more efficient.
[17:18] <chamunks> harsh410, also I didn't intend to come off as an asshat my apologies.
[17:18] <harsh410> well thats correct @chamunks
[17:18] <harsh410> i am new here
[17:19] <Togusa> chamunks: truth is that even on Windows you don't have so many softwares for this (and the most known one works with a monthly subscription -.-)
[17:19] <harsh410> @chamunks its ok ..atleast ur guiding me
[17:19] <chamunks> FFSplit, OBS, Xsplit, seem to be the best options but I think  there are one or two others but those are the biggies.
[17:20] <harsh410> @chamunks i know php...and have done some coding on C++ in past
[17:20] <chamunks> OBS doesn't support linux sadly and I don't think ffsplit does either and they're both "open source"
[17:20] <Togusa> chamunks: i found this https://github.com/Pholey/Xstreamer
[17:20] <chamunks> harsh410, fair enough what is it that you're looking to get out of here.
[17:20] <harsh410> @chamunks u want me to get out of here??
[17:20] <harsh410> i came here to learn and see :)
[17:21] <chamunks> harsh410, absolutely not.
[17:21] <chamunks> I'm just curious.
[17:21] <chamunks> Essentially trying to help you figure out what you're looking to find out.
[17:21] <Togusa> harsh410: "to get out of here" as in "what are you looking for"
[17:21] <Togusa> harsh410: he wasn't telling you to go away! :)
[17:21] <chamunks> 95% of the time in IRC the problem lies in knowing the correct question to ask.
[17:22] <harsh410> togusa chamunk ok
[17:22] <harsh410> ok
[17:22] <harsh410> i will put my question
[17:22] <chamunks> :)
[17:22] <chamunks> I'm the farthest thing from an authority in here regardless.
[17:22] <harsh410> i have downloaded php gtk
[17:22] <harsh410> i know some php and c++
[17:23] <Togusa> harsh410: are you asking "how to contribute to ubuntu" or "i want to program something on ubuntu"?
[17:23] <harsh410> i want to program something on ubuntu
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> harsh410  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:24] <chamunks> that would likely be a good place to start /j #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:24] <Togusa> harsh410: you don't need any particular procedure then
[17:25] <Togusa> harsh410: you can follow the quickstart tutorials of the framework you decided to use (gtk, right?)
[17:25] <lecoeus> harsh410: gtk has php bindings?
[17:25] <harsh410> yes
[17:25] <harsh410> yes
[17:25] <Togusa> i thought you were going to use c++ :D
[17:25] <harsh410> i got some info
[17:25] <harsh410> after 5-6 hrs i was successful in installing a php gtk
[17:25] <gimmic> so where is the conf for the desktop configuration during the login screen?
[17:26] <gimmic> I noticed my multimonitor configuration is wrong during login, but fine under my user account
[17:26] <chamunks> harsh410, you could just use tasksel to install a full out LAMP stack
[17:26] <lecoeus> i don't think i ever saw a php app in gtk
[17:26] <chamunks> [Linux Apache MySQL PHP] = Lamp
[17:26] <Togusa> gimmic: not working for me either, as i have two monitors with different resolution :/
[17:26] <harsh410> ok
[17:26] <Togusa> gimmic: it's just ugly, not a real issue as it works fine when you login
[17:26] <harsh410> @chamunks but then it willalways need a lamp
[17:26] <gimmic> Yeah, I've got 3- two are the same and one is a diff resolution
[17:27] <gimmic> my problem is actually just the order
[17:27] <chamunks> PHP as far as I thought PHP was something that required a web server.
[17:27] <gimmic> 1 - 2 - 3 in my userenv is 1 - 3 - 2 during login
[17:27] <Togusa> gimmic: i tried to force both order and resolution several times, i just gave up
[17:27] <Togusa> gimmic: if you find a way let me know
[17:27] <harsh410> @lecoeus yes ur right this is why i came here to check iif i am on right track
[17:27] <gimmic> will do
[17:27] <chamunks> ok I've got to head off.  Thanks Togusa I'll look into those things.
[17:27] <gimmic> it will bother me otherwise, OCD powers activate!
[17:27] <Togusa> chamunks: see ya!
[17:27] <Togusa> gimmic: only thing you can do is to move the physical screens
[17:28] <gimmic> not an option
[17:28] <gimmic> the center display is larger than the other side ones
[17:28] <Togusa> gimmic: because you probably changed the order from inside env
[17:28] <lecoeus> harsh410: i would take a look at c++ and qt
[17:28] <gimmic> well, the login screen has to have it's own env, else how would the multimonitor even work
[17:28] <lecoeus> harsh410: qtcreator is a really nice ide for that
[17:28] <Togusa> gimmic: i see :/ well you might try to force it using xorg.conf but i never managed to get it working
[17:28] <gimmic> I'll poke at it
[17:28] <harsh410> ok
[17:29] <Togusa> harsh410: i support lecoeus, i love Qt :)
[17:29] <harsh410> @lecoeus and python?
[17:29] <lecoeus> python is good too
[17:29] <lecoeus> it also has qt bindings
[17:29] <lecoeus> and gtk
[17:29] <Togusa> harsh410: for Python you can use PyCharm: http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/
[17:29] <lecoeus> depends on what you want to program really
[17:30] <Togusa> it's got a free of charge edition (community)
[17:30] <lecoeus> unless it's too performance-dependent, python is good
[17:30] <harsh410> Togusa:  ok
[17:30] <harsh410> Togusa: i want to develop things that can be used in a lan
[17:30] <harsh410> Togusa: office use etc
[17:33] <Togusa> harsh410: well, use Python then
[17:33] <Togusa> really, any language is fine
[17:33] <Togusa> (almost)
[17:33] <harsh410> Togusa:  ok thx ..and how is ubuntu demand in  Europe
[17:34] <Togusa> harsh410: what do you mean? are you talking about market share?
[17:35] <harsh410> Togusa: yes ubuntu in market or people using it..or companies implementing servers on it ..
[17:36] <lecoeus> harsh410: not very different compared to other places
[17:36] <Togusa> harsh410: most servers (afaik) use centos/red hat/debian
[17:36] <lecoeus> harsh410: i have found opensuse is popular in europe
[17:36] <lecoeus> it might be the only continent in which it is actually popular
[17:36] <Togusa> harsh410: but if you develop using Python + Qt or C++/Qt you don't really care about the platform
[17:37] <harsh410> ok
[17:37] <Togusa> you of course have to avoid stuff like hard-coding paths, using native APIs directly etc
[17:38] <harsh410> Togusa:  ok thats a precious info..so wat i develop for ubuntu can work for suse etc as well
[17:38] <Togusa> yes, if done right
[17:38] <harsh410> ok
[17:39] <harsh410> Togusa: i appreciate the help..can qt work for windows as well
[17:40] <Togusa> harsh410: you can almost run it on your coffee making machine =)
[17:40] <Togusa> harsh410: it works everywhere, and you can easily obtain a fully functional build environment from the Qt Project website
[17:40] <harsh410> OK
[17:40] <Togusa> harsh410: not sure what's the procedure if you want to use Qt with Python, as i've never done it
[17:41] <harsh410> ok
[17:41] <oaulakh> how to connect iphone with ubuntu?
[17:41] <lecoeus> you still build the ui in qtcreator
[17:41] <lecoeus> then you import it in the python script
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> oaulakh: SUB cable usually
[17:41] <harsh410> lecoeus: ok
[17:41] <Hejkki> sub cable? :o
[17:41] <Togusa> *usb
[17:41] <Togusa> :P
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> oaulakh: USB*
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> oaulakh: or use Bluetooth
[17:42] <oaulakh> but how to add songs without itunes?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> oaulakh: banshee or Rhythmbox
[17:43] <oaulakh> how with banshee?
[17:45] <gimmic> Togusa: for the login monitor thing, did you try copying user's ~./config/monitors.xml to /var/lib/lightdm/.config/ ?
[17:46] <gimmic> looks like the default conf lightdm uses is there
[17:46] <Togusa> gimmic: i didn't, as i'm using KDM
[17:46] <gimmic> ah
[17:46] <Togusa> but let me know if it works
[17:47] <Togusa> gimmic: we just have to hang in here until we have wayland =)
[17:47] <hexorg> Hey guys... How to install gcc with openmp support? I have installed gcc, but #gcc -v doesn't show openmp
[17:48] <spurlz> howdie!
[17:49] <hexorg> Hello, spurlz
[17:49] <Togusa> hexorg: you might need to install something else: apt-cache search gomp
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> im looking for an alternative to 'prey' an anti-theft package for laptops, any sugestions?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> !info prey
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> or maybe a script that can email location of laptop every ubuntu boot
[17:51] <pngl> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu 14.04 daily in EFI mode on a new laptop (Sony Vaio Pro 13) alongside Windows 8. Could someone help me out? At install time, I get: "grub-efi-amd64-signed could not be installed to /target/..."
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !14.04 | pngl
[17:51] <pngl> lotuspsychje: ?
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> pngl: join #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 talk
[17:52] <pngl> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> pngl: yw :p
[17:54] <anshudhar> hi
[17:54] <anshudhar> sad
[17:54] <anshudhar> fwfslflfl v9hd
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> !test | anshudhar
[17:56] <mathfreak_> so the Ubuntu Developer Summit is coming up. Is there a video stream I can watch?
[17:56] <sandman13> what size of swap space should be allocated for 4gb ram and 500gb hardisk
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> !swap | sandman13
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> sandman13: 4.4Gb is what I'd suggest
[17:58] <sandman13> can it later be extended? i have given 2gb only
[17:58] <mathfreak_> sandman13: You can make a swap file instead of a partition instead
[17:58] <sandman13> ??
[17:58] <mathfreak_> sandman13: This would give you the ability to make your swap larger if you really need to in the future
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> mathfreak_: maybe the ubuntu dev guys might know?
[17:59] <mathfreak_> sandman13: swap doesn't have to be its own partition. You can use a file for swap space instead
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> mathfreak_: #ubuntu-devel
[17:59] <allstarsnorks2> guess which distro made my sound card not work on linux
[17:59] <mathfreak_> thanks lotuspsychje
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> yw
[17:59] <zykotick9> mathfreak_: i believe UDS is now held on G+ :(
[17:59] <sandman13> okay
[18:00] <Ari-Yang> [12:11:17] <chamunks> Anyone know good software for livestreaming in ubuntu? ---> quvi?
[18:00] <mathfreak_> zykotick9: Ah. I guess I'll have to make a fake G+ account to watch then
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> allstarsnorks2: better ask your issue mate
[18:00]  * Ari-Yang shrugs
[18:00] <mathfreak_> sandman13: https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[18:00] <Ari-Yang> !quvi | chamunks
[18:00] <mathfreak_> sandman13: That page describes how to make a swap file (instead of a swap partition). Scroll down to "Swap file"
[18:00] <allstarsnorks2> After I watched a YouTube video, the sound was killed off
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> allstarsnorks2: anything usefull in /var/log/syslog.1?
[18:01] <allstarsnorks2> where can i find this?
[18:01] <sandman13> mathfreak_ i have seen this http://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/adding-swap-partition-after-system-installation
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> allstarsnorks2: browse your hd with nautilus and goto /var/log
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> allstarsnorks2: or open logviewer
[18:03] <jubale> Which is the best app for playing DVD movies now?
[18:03] <mathfreak_> sandman13: Seems like the answers there describe how to make a partition for swap (which you can do, but it's not necessary).
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> jubale: i like vlc
[18:03] <jubale> VLC tries loading movie, but it goes blank.
[18:03] <sandman13> is 2gb okay for now mathfreak_
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> jubale: did you open the whole folder with vlc?
[18:03] <daftykins> jubale: do you have restricted extras installed?
[18:03] <jubale> Yes.
[18:04] <mathfreak_> sandman13: 2 GB sounds great. To be honest, as a single-user, I've never really needed to use swap, at all.
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> jubale: graphics card driver installed?
[18:04] <sandman13> okay will see you after installation
[18:04] <jubale> Which folder, VIDEO_TS?
[18:04] <allstarsnorks2> Nov 18 15:08:28 weijie-ThinkPad-SL gnome-session[2591]: CRITICAL: gsm_manager_set_phase: assertion `GSM_IS_MANAGER (manager)' failed Nov 18 15:08:28 weijie-ThinkPad-SL gnome-session[2591]: Gtk-CRITICAL: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> jubale: you need to play the folder containing video_ts and audio_ts with vlc
[18:05] <hexorg> this is wierd... packages.ubuntu.com list libfftw3_omp.a as one of the files. But it's not on my system when I install libfftw3-dev :-(
[18:07] <sandman13> what does encrypt my home folder means
[18:07] <mojtaba> Hi, Will ubuntu become slow by installing hundreds of apps? like windows?
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | sandman13
[18:08] <allstarsnorks2> where can i find help from Ubuntu Builder?
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: it all depends how full your hd is
[18:08] <daftykins> mojtaba: depends on your storage hardware
[18:08] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: can't get a thing
[18:08] <mathfreak_> sandman13: Encrypting your home folder means just that. Your home folder becomes encrypted when you are logged out, and ecryptfs will decrypt your home folder's contents as-needed when you log in.
[18:08] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: daftykins: Suppose I have enough storage
[18:09] <daftykins> mojtaba: no, it's about the type - SSD vs. HDD etc.
[18:09] <sandman13> mathfreak_ that means i have to enter password every time i access the home folder
[18:09] <trism> hexorg: which arch? I see it on amd64 here: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfftw3_omp.a
[18:09] <mojtaba> daftykins: Is it possible to move around the installed app in ubuntu?
[18:10] <mojtaba> newbie.
[18:10] <daftykins> mojtaba: sorry i don't understand
[18:10] <amesbury_eu> i have checked the hash sum for the PCBSD DVD.iso that i've downoaded & now need to check this against the hash sum for the DVD which is provided as a bin file ending md5 & i've cd'd into the correct directory. what command should i use to compare the DVD hash sum with .bin file hash sum?
[18:10] <daftykins> oh you mean like defragmenting?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> sandman13: if you want to hibernate / suspend you will need as much swap as you do RAM
[18:10] <Togusa> amesbury_eu: openssl md5 filename.bin
[18:10] <mojtaba> daftykins: In windows if I change the folder of an application it will not work. Is it the same in ubuntu?
[18:10] <mathfreak_> sandman13: You have to enter your password once (at log in). Usage remains the same as if it was unencrypted.
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: how do you 'change the folder' of an application?
[18:11] <daftykins> mojtaba: yep
[18:11] <amesbury_eu> Togusa thanks!
[18:11] <gimmic> test
[18:11] <gimmic> test
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> !test | gimmic
[18:11] <auronandace> !test | gimmic
[18:11] <sandman13> ActionParsnip: suspend mean sleep in ubuntu
[18:11] <gimmic> Sorry!
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> sandman13: that sort of thing, yes
[18:11] <gimmic> Wasn't even in the right window
[18:11] <sandman13> mathfreak_: argh can't decide what to do
[18:11] <gimmic> Togusa: the monitors.xml worked great btw for lightdm
[18:12] <Togusa> gimmic: nice! only issue is that i often move my laptop and i don't always have the same monitor
[18:12] <gimmic> Yeah.
[18:12] <mathfreak_> sandman13: If you think your data can be read by people you don't want reading it, encrypt your home directory. Otherwise, you're fine not encrypting anything.
[18:12] <bunduru> how to tell ubuntu to accept loopback only on certain port?
[18:12] <gimmic> I had that issue in fedora, but now I'm on a desktop so no worries about hardware changes
[18:13] <sandman13> mathfreak_ thanks
[18:13] <mathfreak_> sandman13: I have an unencrypted home directory, but I set up an encrypted subdirectory if I need to encrypt anything.
[18:14] <amesbury_eu> Togusa re:md5 thanks again that worked & also noted for phuture reference. be well!
[18:15] <zykotick9> bunduru: ahhh, loopback gets used by a lot in *nix land.  you're headed for tears trying to block localhost connections... (i have NO idea why you'd want to)
[18:16] <oleg> Hey hey hey
[18:16] <mathfreak_> hello
[18:17] <bunduru> zykotick9, i wanted to only accept loopback connection to the web interface of ktorrent.. which is plain http
[18:17] <zykotick9> bunduru: IF you do that, there are going to be serious problems...
[18:17] <bunduru> since i can ssh into the machine i could just create a tunnel for that
[18:18] <bunduru> how come :s
[18:19] <Togusa> bunduru: can you define "loopback"? because it looks like you're asking for something else
[18:19] <zykotick9> bunduru: try it, then report back on what gets broken (i'd expect a LONG list...)  good luck.
[18:19] <david38400> I just changed from Linux Mint to Ubuntu 12.04.My technician did this for me, but I was told 13.04 was available and better. Is this true? Thanks
[18:20] <zykotick9> bunduru: if you use Network-Manager, i'd expect DNS won't work anymore... for one thing.
[18:20] <auronandace> david38400: 13.04 is available, better depends on your needs
[18:20] <bunduru> Togusa, i mean localhost 127.0.0.1
[18:21] <Togusa> bunduru: only reason to block it is because you're not trusting what you're running on your own machine
[18:21] <mathfreak_> ^ if that's the case, you have bigger problems.
[18:21] <Togusa> is that machine used by other users as well?
[18:21] <bunduru> no just me
[18:21] <Togusa> then you don't really need to block connections on 127.0.0.1
[18:22] <Togusa> you just need to disable access from the outside
[18:22] <bunduru> wow i didnt say that
[18:22] <Togusa> well, that's what you asked
[18:22] <bunduru> i said the oposite
[18:22] <Togusa> maybe your question wasn't well written and/or we didn't understand it
[18:22] <david38400> auronandace, My needs are just for home, video, music and internet.
[18:22] <bunduru> ok sorry i'll try to explain
[18:23] <auronandace> david38400: then what is wrong with 12.04?
[18:23] <Togusa> ok then you want ktorrent to accept connections only on 127.0.0.1
[18:23] <Togusa> and still use it remotely
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> david38400: 13.10 and 13.04 have quite short lifecycles.
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> david38400: if you stick with 12.04, you can upgrade to Trusty (14.04) in one jump in April next year
[18:23] <mathfreak_> david38400: newer != better
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> david38400: as it is LTS to LTS upgrade
[18:24] <bunduru> so ktorrent web interface runs on port 80 for example (plain http) and i just want to make this available on that host (localhost), so the only way to access it would be in the machine which is running ktorrent and not from the network
[18:25] <Togusa> bunduru: ok then, see if you can open the settings for the web interface, and see if you can set the address the program binds to
[18:25] <bean> bunduru: it only really matters if there are others on your network
[18:25] <zykotick9> bunduru: that makes a LOT more sense!  see if ktorrent has an option to ONLY work with localhost.  don't actually touch LO settings!
[18:25] <troulouliou_dev> hi how can i stop pulseaudio manually ?
[18:26] <troulouliou_dev> killing it respawn uatmatically a new process
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: then in your browser go o http://localhost:80   and it will show, right?
[18:26] <zykotick9> troulouliou_dev: if you use gnome/unity - expect issue if you disable Pulse.
[18:26] <commodore256>  mudkip9001mizugorou
[18:26] <commodore256>  mudkip9001mizugorouu9gyyu7oo9upu9
[18:27] <bunduru> no option to set the ip only the port
[18:27] <david38400> ActionParsnip, mathfreak_ Thanks for your help. Will wait to upgrade to 14.04 in April then.......
[18:27] <bunduru> ActionParsnip, yes but i can still access the web interface from any pc on the network
[18:27] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: I take back what I said about radeon.
[18:27] <Togusa> bunduru: you will then have to use a firewall to block the port
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: so you only want to be able to access it from the server, and no other system?
[18:28] <david38400> auronandace, Sorry I didn't mean to say anything was wrong at all.   It's just a friend didn't understand why I had 12.04 if 13 was out, but with the news from the others best to upgrade to 14 next April.
[18:28] <troulouliou_dev> zykotick9, i need to disable it for xbmc
[18:28] <chamunks> Ari-Yang, doesn't look like that factoid exists.
[18:28] <trism> troulouliou_dev: you need autospawn=no in ~/.config/pulse/client.conf, see: man pulse-client.conf
[18:28] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: it configures much easier, and keeps settings... but its quality is not good, compared to the closed source drivers. Ugh. Both ways suck.
[18:28] <bunduru> correct ActionParsnip =)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: ok, I'll have a look at ktorrent to see if its configurable there
[18:29] <djangonoob> I have a hp 840 g1 notebook with a Wireless-AC 7260 module which I can't get running under ubuntu 12.04
[18:29] <auronandace> david38400: not sure why you mentioned 13.04 specifically since 13.10 is the latest release
[18:29] <troulouliou_dev> trism, ha ok thanks
[18:29] <bunduru> hmmm not from the gui at least as far as i can tell
[18:30] <bunduru> Togusa, i guess that could work block the port
[18:30] <troulouliou_dev> trism pulseaudio is still started with "service pulseaudio" ? ot it is an xdg /autostart ?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/19138/ktorrent-web-interface.html
[18:31] <trism> troulouliou_dev: xdg autostart
[18:33] <bunduru> Togusa,  we are talking about creating iptable rules y?
[18:33] <Togusa> if there is no other way, yes
[18:34] <Togusa> bunduru: have you checked out ActionParsnip's link?
[18:34] <Togusa> can you setup a whitelist from the web interface?
[18:35] <bunduru> yup i was just reading.. something about accepting only localhost connections by default but it weird cause im able to see it from another computer
[18:36] <bunduru> XD
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> !info quvi | chamunks
[18:37] <Togusa> lotuspsychje: he needs to stream
[18:37] <Togusa> he doesn't need to download them
[18:37] <chamunks> I don't know if thats what I need.
[18:38] <chamunks> I'm trying to go the other way but thats pretty slick for ripping things out of a flash situation.
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> Togusa: i just correct what Ari-Yang sugested him
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> chamunks: do you wnat to rip MP3 from YouTube videos?
[18:38] <chamunks> Nope
[18:38] <chamunks> I want to twitch.tv stream
[18:38] <chamunks> I'm looking to send video to a streaming site.
[18:39] <bunduru> Togusa, no whitelist option
[18:39] <Togusa> sudo netstat lnp | grep -i ktorrent
[18:39] <Togusa> see if it's at least binding to the local area network
[18:40] <Togusa> you will then have to block the port with iptables
[18:40] <daniele_> sorry
[18:40] <Togusa> i remember there was a tool called "guarddog", but i don't know if you can find it anymore
[18:40] <Togusa> or you can also use ufw (isn't it the one used by ubuntu?)
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> chamunks: alot of tutorials on streaming twitch with vlc ot there...
[18:40] <justin__> Hi i sear a german
[18:40] <justin__> ch
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> !de | justin__
[18:41] <bunduru> ActionParsnip, "...By default KTorrent WebAdmin will ONLY allow connections from the localhost..." this wasn't true in my experience :s
[18:41] <djangonoob> I have a hp 840 g1 notebook with a Wireless-AC 7260 module which I can't get running under ubuntu 12.04. does anybody know which driver I need?
[18:41] <bunduru> maybe i have to access some config file through cli?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: check the whitelist of the application
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> chamunks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/314144/how-to-stream-on-twitch-tv
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | djangonoob
[18:44] <Rory> djangonoob: To clarify, do you mean you can't get any connection at all, or you can get one but only running at wireless-A speeds? Could you please run the command "lspci -v" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:44] <daftykins> Rory: -ac is the newer standard, i imagine that's the query
[18:45] <bunduru> ActionParsnip, i dont see any whitelist option, are we talking about the gui?
[18:45] <liuyix> djangonoob:  what is the problem?
[18:46] <_joey> how do I configure software update to notify me of new updates weekly?
[18:46] <djangonoob> Rory: I can't see any networks
[18:46] <_joey> thanks!
[18:47] <xangua> _joey: Software Center>Edit>Sources>Update tab
[18:48] <liuyix> _joey: in the update settings where you hit the advanced btn in the update dialog if i remembered correctly
[18:48] <Rory> djangonoob: Do you have another method of accessing the Internet on that device? If so, could you go to the Additional Drivers tool and see if there are any listed there?
[18:48] <djangonoob> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6438857/
[18:49] <djangonoob> lan is working
[18:50] <valesk> Anyone experiencing crazy ping in 13.10?
[18:50] <valesk> on wifi
[18:50] <valesk> :P
[18:50] <liuyix> valesk: what is it
[18:51] <valesk> I'm getting random 200-700 pinging google
[18:51] <valesk> Just hangs since the upgrade
[18:51] <djangonoob> Rory: I don't know if it helps but there is a hardware button to enable/disable wifi but nothing happens if pressed
[18:52] <Rory> djangonoob: OK I am looking, but I just moved house and I have temperamental Internet tethered through my phone, so it is slow
[18:52] <molgrum> why do i hear xchat thud-sound in gnome shell but not in unity?
[18:54] <bunduru> so... i guess the only option is to mess with iptables!?
[18:54] <Rory> djangonoob: Could you please pastebin again for me, this time "sudo lspci -vv"
[18:54] <chamunks> bunduru, I've not been paying attention but ufw?
[18:54] <david38400> auronandace, It was my mistake, don't worry and thanks for your help.
[18:54] <sandman13> is ubuntu protected from malware attacks like cryptolocker?
[18:54] <chamunks> !ufw bunduru
[18:54] <Rory> djangonoob: If you think you can just pastebin the part about your wireless card, do that
[18:55] <chamunks> !ufw | bunduru
[18:55] <Rory> sandman13: Cryptolocker targets Windows and doesn't run on Gnu/Linux distributions like Ubuntu
[18:55] <Rory> !antivirus | sandman13
[18:56] <sandman13> good to hear Rory
[18:56] <auronandace> david38400: sorry for misunderstanding, when 14.04 come out i hope your upgrade goes smoothly
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: there are good browser addons to protect from malware aswell
[18:56] <charity_> Hi. This is my graphics card information: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[18:56] <charity_> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: maybe ask in #firefox
[18:56] <Fuzzles> can someone help me get hdmi auido? no option in settings?
[18:57] <Rory> Fuzzles: Is it a laptop? What is the make and model?
[18:57] <sandman13> will do lotuspsychje
[18:57] <Fuzzles> Rory, nope its a desktop
[18:57] <Rory> Fuzzles: OK then what is the hardware which is providing the HDMI port, is it on a graphics card?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> !security | sandman13
[18:58] <charity_> My graphics have seemed to downgrade since using Windows 8. Is there a way to fix this?
[18:58] <Fuzzles> Rory, yes radeon hd 3 series, the picture is fine after changeing res to fit just no audio
[18:59] <djangonoob> Rory: hope this is all you need... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6438892/
[18:59] <sandman13> lotuspsychje ubuntu does have a firewall after installation right?
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | sandman13
[19:00] <bunduru> thanks chamunks i dont know if setting a rule is the best option
[19:00] <bunduru> but...
[19:01] <sandman13> lotuspsychje do i need antivirus here on ubuntu i don't have any kind of link to windows
[19:01] <auronandace> sandman13: likely not
[19:02] <charity_> Do I just need to install different drivers for my graphics card? Will that fix the problem?
[19:02] <auronandace> !av | sandman13
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: its always good to have a healthy paranoid, lets say someone targets you, its best to be prudent
[19:02] <bekks> charity_: which graphics hw do you have?
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: check clamav, snort, rkhunter
[19:03] <sandman13> will do
[19:03] <charity_> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:03] <charity_> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: and read the security guide, alot of usefull info there
[19:03] <liuyix> sandman13:  most users actually on need av
[19:05] <Fuzzles> Rory, any ideas?
[19:05] <sandman13> lotuspsychje although i am new to linux only a day old but the community makes me feel like i'm quite old here
[19:06] <charity_> bekks: that is what it says in my system settings.
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: we are not trying to make you feel old :p
[19:06] <auronandace> sandman13: don't worry, nobody starts out knowing everything
[19:07] <sandman13> lotuspsychje by old i mean experienced:)
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: well this room has reputation to treat everyone with respect
[19:07] <david38400>  auronandace     no problem, thanks for your help, it is appreciated
[19:08] <auronandace> david38400: no worries, have fun
[19:09] <charity_> bekks: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:09] <charity_> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]
[19:09] <Rory> I'm sorry everyone djangonoob Fuzzles my Internet is so bad I can barely even get a shell to my IRC client. I'm going to have to go and do something else. I hope you get your problems solved
[19:10] <Fuzzles> Rory, its ok mate thanks
[19:10] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: so according to the antivirus article i need to install AV to ensure that i don't become the carrier of the malicious software
[19:10] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: will still install ClampAV
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: on ubuntu, you will be pretty much secure, but still its always good to see whats happening
[19:11] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: right
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: if you use pcbanking and hit a malicious banner, they still can hijack you right
[19:11] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: right
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: with ubuntu and common sense you will go a long secure way
[19:13] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: thanks for help i gotta go now
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: good luck!
[19:13] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: thanks once again
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> np
[19:14] <dgarstang3> darn it. how do I display the stripe size of an lvm volume?
[19:14] <Fuzzles> can someone help me get hdmi auido? no option in settings?
[19:14] <heavyammo> Privacy etc. is my mine reason why I switched
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | dgarstang3
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> heavyammo: good idea
[19:15] <charity_> My graphics card does not work as well as it did when I was using Windows 8.
[19:16] <dgarstang3> ubottu: nothing there answers my question but thanks anyay
[19:16] <dgarstang3> darn it
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> charity_: did you install correct ubuntu drivers?
[19:16] <naz>  ubuntu, dual monitors, nvidia, quake live is combo possible and has anyone here done it?
[19:16] <ollie-> hahaha
[19:16] <naz> is this combo*
[19:17] <charity_> I see no additional drivers
[19:18] <charity_> I assume my drivers came working out of the box. They just don't work all that well
[19:19] <david38400> I have a question about the webcam.... I purchased a Logitech Webcam C170 supposedly plug and play. I can't get it to work. Any suggestions please?
[19:19] <david38400> My system is Ubuntu 12.04
[19:20] <naz> Here is a good question about drivers and ubuntu... In 12.04 I could go right to my graphics drivers and manage which version etc. 13.10 I can't find for the life of me where my gfx drivers are located any one know?
[19:20] <zykotick9> david38400: does it work in cheese?  <- first step in webcam troubleshooting
[19:20] <f4cl3y> clear
[19:21] <charity_> this is my graphics info Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:21] <charity_> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470]
[19:21] <molgrum> is there a dev channel for ubutnu, specifically unity?
[19:21] <lordcrusader_> hi
[19:21] <wheatthin> #ubuntu+1  ?
[19:22] <lordcrusader_> i like to know how to enable mod_rewrite in apache2 ubuntu 13.10 and .htaccess guide
[19:22] <molgrum> ah, might be a start
[19:22] <theadmin> molgrum: #ubuntu-dev I think
[19:22] <theadmin> molgrum: Nope, #ubuntu-devel
[19:22] <junka> rythmbox crushes when I try to stream a radio station
[19:22] <FiremanEd> #ubuntu-devel actually
[19:22] <DJones> molgrum: Maybe something to ask in #ubuntu-desktop, may not be the right channel, but they may have an idea
[19:23] <david38400> zykotick9, Never heard of it? How do I start?
[19:23] <badger> hello can anyone see this i dont know if i am connected
[19:23] <sc99nicolaus> server irc.openjoke.org
[19:23] <ollie-> lordcrusader: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869092/how-to-enable-mod-rewrite-for-apache-2-2
[19:23] <zykotick9> david38400: install it, then run cheese
[19:24] <sc99nicolaus> !server
[19:24] <DJones> badger: Nope, you're not connected and we can see you :)
[19:24] <DJones> s/can/can't/
[19:24] <sc99nicolaus> join server #irc.openjoke.org
[19:24] <badger> gahah cheers djones
[19:24] <molgrum> hey while i'm at it, i get no "thud"-sound in xchat when i'm using unity, but with gnome shell it's ok
[19:24] <kwok> hi
[19:25] <kwok> is linux more secure then mac
[19:25] <ollie-> *lordcrusader_ : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869092/how-to-enable-mod-rewrite-for-apache-2-2
[19:25] <lordcrusader_> ollie -  i have tried this but this never helped me.. i tried to run cakephp framework it needs modrewrite for htaccess to run successfully
[19:26] <badger> verytime i do a fresh install of ubuntu i find myself back here asking for help can anypone get wifi working with dell inspiron 1520  its working wired but its one of those bloody annoying broadcom cardds 4311 i  believe
[19:26] <ollie-> i didnt mean to send that twice, have you done AllowOverride All in the site configuration?
[19:26] <Pici> lordcrusader_: sudo a2enmod rewrite    should take care of it
[19:26] <lordcrusader_> @ollie -  i have tried this but this never helped me.. i tried to run cakephp framework it needs modrewrite for htaccess to run successfully
[19:26] <kwok> does anyone know if linux is very secure os
[19:26] <badger>  i have done thsi becore
[19:26] <zykotick9> !broadcom | lordcrusader_
[19:27] <badger> KWOK yes
[19:27] <badger> very secure
[19:27] <kwok> is it more secure
[19:27] <kwok> then mac
[19:27] <ollie-> kwok, it is more secure than windows
[19:27] <lordcrusader_> *pici . i run this command already it says enabled . but not working properly
[19:27] <zykotick9> ollie-: that doesn't say much ;)
[19:27] <Pici> lordcrusader_: Have you restarted apache2 after doing that?
[19:28] <badger> ubottu thanks what has worked before doesnt always work the  next time thanks though
[19:28] <kwok> is mac just as secure as linux
[19:28] <badger> oh shit you are a bot does this mean skynet is on to me?
[19:28] <xangua> kwok: do you have an ubuntu support question¿
[19:29] <kwok> yes
[19:29] <auronandace> !ot | kwok
[19:29] <lordcrusader_> ubottu what's this link says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?
[19:29] <xangua> !language | badger
[19:29] <badger> kwok, probably as secure maybe slightley less
[19:29] <ollie-> kwok, linux isnt targeted as much as windows and mac
[19:29] <david38400> zykotick9, Thanks will try cheese
[19:29] <kwok> ok
[19:29] <lordcrusader_> ubottu what's this link says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx? is anything relevant wtih modrewrite
[19:29] <soman> What soft can I use to create a video tutorials in ubuntu? I mean some screen recording app which can show pressed buttons and some other features.
[19:29] <badger> think about how many people use windows vs mac os and linux, people write viruses and malware to be  most efficient
[19:30] <auronandace> badger: take the discussion elsewhere
[19:30] <badger> lordcrusader are u having friver issuses to?
[19:30] <badger> auronandace Have I offeneded?
[19:30] <zykotick9> badger: you are using some bad logic there!  servers are better targets then desktops, but there are few *nix viruses/malware, and LOT of linux servers.
[19:31] <doomwolf> meow
[19:31] <ELFrederich> Any easy DVD authoring software?  I ripped a Blu-Ray and want it on DVD so I can play it in another room in my house
[19:31] <auronandace> badger: no, i thought you were about to talk at length on the subject in a dedicated support channel
[19:31] <lordcrusader_> badger sorry to ask friver isssue means what?
[19:31] <badger> fair enough you obviiously knwo more than me
[19:31] <kwok> is just that someone try to hack
[19:31] <badger> lordcrusader I meant driver issue
[19:31] <kwok> me on my ubuntu box
[19:32] <doomwolf> i was able to change my user icon in xfce 4 !!!! yes i fucking rule
[19:32] <badger> kwok, how do you mean?
[19:32] <Pici> doomwolf: great, but please mind your language here.
[19:32] <lordcrusader_> badger i hope dont have any driver issues
[19:32] <doomwolf> right on
[19:32] <kwok> like trying to guess my username
[19:32] <kwok> and password
[19:32] <ollie-> doomwolf, your user picture?
[19:32] <badger> no i do
[19:32] <badger> broadcom is a biatch
[19:32] <Fuzzles> how do i get hdmi audio
[19:33] <badger> 4311 everytime i get it running i have to sort it on a fresh install
[19:33] <badger> too many tutorials
[19:33] <junka> hello I get an error of "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[19:33] <junka> what does this mean exactly?
[19:33] <badger> back soon gotta power off
[19:33] <zykotick9> junka: BIG problem
[19:33] <doomwolf> ya i mean like it has no way to change easily, kinda easy you gotta log in as root and var/lib/usersystemaccounts/user and at an Icon=path/image
[19:33] <ollie-> doomwolf ive just done this and found this answer helpful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47186/is-there-a-way-to-change-user-picture-in-xubuntu-and-actually-display-it-on-log
[19:34] <doomwolf> i was on that for like hours lol
[19:34] <ollie-> doomwolf, do you have gimp or software alike?
[19:34] <lordcrusader_> how do i remove lamp-server completely and install back with complete pack for development version .. ?
[19:34] <hs366> could you please recommend me a rar password cracker software ? i
[19:35] <doomwolf> yeah
[19:35] <Pici> hs366: Thats not really something that falls into the scope of support for this channel.
[19:35] <reisio> hs366: you can find them online easily enough
[19:35] <zykotick9> Pici: s/really// ;)
[19:35] <ollie-> doomwolf, create a new image the size of 96x72. Add the image you want to it, then save in your home dir as "face.png"
[19:35] <hs366> Pici, reisio  ok , Thx :)
[19:35] <lordcrusader_> hs366 there are software which all uses brute force attack
[19:35] <reisio> 'cause Ubuntu users don't forget their archive passwords?
[19:36] <doomwolf> thats easier
[19:36] <Danato> did any of you guys ever set up windows xp network on virtualbox?
[19:36] <reisio> Danato: sure
[19:36] <doomwolf> I mean I already changed it
[19:36] <ollie-> doomwolf, i mean ".face.png"
[19:36] <hs366> lordcrusader_, thx
[19:36] <doomwolf> thanks ollie
[19:36] <lordcrusader_> Danato i tried it working
[19:36] <doomwolf> i opened terminal and logged in thunar as root
[19:36] <lordcrusader_> hs366 welcome
[19:36] <ollie-> doomwolf: if you need to change it, you can edit the picture, but i will look for an application that does it for you
[19:37] <Danato> reisio: lordcrusader_:  what settings did you use? Im using wireless and im trying to connect my windows xp to it
[19:37] <reisio> Danato: the default setting will share the connection the host OS uses
[19:37] <[Gentoo]> Danato: default should work
[19:37] <doomwolf> ollie this is wat i did
[19:37] <doomwolf> Edit /var/lib/AccountsService/users/yourusername and add the line:
[19:37] <doomwolf> Icon=/path/to/image.
[19:37] <lordcrusader_> Danato : you like to use bridge connection am i right?
[19:38] <doomwolf> it works on reboot
[19:38] <doomwolf> autp resize too
[19:38] <Danato> lordcrusader_: yeah but anything would be jst fine, even on NAT im not being able to put it online, i guess i have to do something on windows xp first
[19:39] <ollie-> great :D
[19:39] <[Gentoo]> Danato: is it seeing the network adapter in XP?
[19:39] <lordcrusader_> select bridge and select the interface to wlan0// it works fine for me
[19:39] <[Gentoo]> some drivers like the intel e1000 need downloading manually on ZP
[19:40] <lordcrusader_> *Danato select bridge and select the interface to wlan0// it works fine for me
[19:40] <doomwolf> lots of times my pci is eth0 and wireless is eth1
[19:40] <Danato> [Gentoo]: all there is on the bottom right corner of xp is the clock and a VB icon
[19:40] <lordcrusader_> how do i remove lamp-server completely and install back with complete pack for development version .. ?
[19:40] <[Gentoo]> Danato: in virtualbox choose the generic network NIC
[19:40] <[Gentoo]> it should work out the box
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> i know for the intel virtual NICs you need to download the driver on XP
[19:41] <nicksloan> I'm on ubuntu 12.04. It seems that the service command works for both sysvinit scripts and upstart jobs. Is there a way to make it pick one or the other when both exist for a particular name?
[19:41] <jhutchins_wk> lordcrusader_: The intel e1000 is one of the most standard interfaces available and has been in the kernel for years.
[19:41] <Pici> lordcrusader_: Can you rephrase what "install back with complete pack for development version" means?
[19:41] <Danato> [Gentoo]: NIC? i ddnt see that one
[19:41] <jhutchins_wk> nicksloan: It shouldn't matter.
[19:42] <[Gentoo]> jhutchins_wk: i was on about windows xp
[19:42] <genii> nicksloan: If two exist, it will prefer the upstart one.
[19:42] <[Gentoo]> Danato: in virtual machine settings under network where you see all the mac address etc you can choose a NIC
[19:42] <[Gentoo]> intel, para, etc
[19:42] <Danato> lordcrusader_: did it automatically connect on yours after setting it up on virtualbox or did you do something else?
[19:42] <jhutchins_wk> [Gentoo]: Oh, well, who can tell with that.
[19:43] <lordcrusader_> Dananto .. i does not done anything it works as it..
[19:45] <lordcrusader_> Pici i used tasksel to install lamp-server .. but to work with .htaccess project .. i have enabled modrewrite.. so plan to go for reinstallaiton
[19:45] <Danato> lordcrusader_: hmm ok thanks
[19:45] <wheatthin> lordcrusader_, why not just enable the module?
[19:46] <lordcrusader_> wheatthin :  i enabled the mod-rewrite  module ..but it doesnot help
[19:46] <wheatthin> is there an error?
[19:48] <lordcrusader_> wheatthin no error
[19:48] <wheatthin> lordcrusader_, then how is reinstalling going to help?
[19:49] <lordcrusader_> wheatthin pls wait .. i had a error it says apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[19:49] <wheatthin> so set your fqdn
[19:49] <lordcrusader_> wheatthin .. while i restart apache2 i get such things
[19:50] <lordcrusader_> wheatthin fgdn means? sorry
[19:50] <wheatthin> Fully Qualified Domain Name
[19:50] <[Gentoo]> if he knew what fqdn means and how to set it he would have set it :)
[19:50] <wheatthin> aka, DNS name
[19:51] <wheatthin> if he doesn't know what they are, then he has to do some reading to have a bit of a clue.
[19:52] <lordcrusader_> wheatthin .. lets try
[19:53] <virus> hii
[19:53] <virus> plese help
[19:53] <virus> how to install video drivers
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> with what
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> what ones
[19:53] <virus> for intel :)
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> you dont need to afaik
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> they are builtin the kernel
[19:53] <virus> or just how to install video drivers
[19:54] <wheatthin> lordcrusader_,http://askubuntu.com/questions/158957/how-to-set-the-fully-qualified-domain-name-in-12-04
[19:54] <virus> a
[19:54] <josefig> how may I reinstall the ubuntu on different partition from the start menu from ubuntu server installation process ?
[19:54] <wheatthin> virus, what video card do you have? And please don't use enter as punctuation
[19:55] <wheatthin> josefig, by selecting a different partition during the installation.
[19:55] <josefig> wheatthin, i tried but it just showed me one partition not the other.
[19:56] <wheatthin> josefig, You'll probably have to use gparted or parted
[19:56] <wheatthin> josefig, what does   sudo parted -l
[19:57] <wheatthin> !paste | josefig
[19:58] <wheatthin> virus, lspci may show you what video card you have installed
[19:58] <virus> wheatthin,  oki
[20:00] <wheatthin> please message me in here, virus
[20:02] <NastyNaz> ive been messing around setting a static internet ip on a local machine but now that its rebooted I can't SSH to it from the internet or via lan, what are my options?
[20:02] <junka> hello I get an error of "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[20:02] <junka> what does this mean exactly?
[20:02] <wheatthin> NastyNaz, making sure on the physical machine that the interfaces are up
[20:03] <wheatthin> junka, it could mean a whole mess of things depending on the fault
[20:03] <NastyNaz> they are lit but the route settings I added are wrong. It doesnt have any network connectivity and its a headless system
[20:03] <zykotick9> junka: when are you getting this error?  what program is it?  segfault = BIG problem (as i already said)
[20:04] <wheatthin> NastyNaz, sounds like you need to put a head on it and edit it physically.
[20:04] <NastyNaz> wheatthin: i was afraid id have to do that. thanks
[20:04] <junka> wheatthin, zykotick9 I get it with rhythmbox when I try to stream a radio station and also when I uninstall a program with ubuntu software center. I am using a 64bit os, I dont know about rhythmbox but software center did not crush on a 32bit os
[20:05] <junka> rhythmbox and radio streaming was working fine after clean install
[20:06] <junka> at least when I first installed it
[20:08] <junka> nobody?
[20:09] <roosterng> I just got in here, what was happening with your rythmbox?
[20:09] <junka> crushes when I try to stream a radio station
[20:09] <junka> when I run it trough terminal I got an error "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[20:10] <wheatthin> crash*
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> junka: can you pastebin the full stack trace for us please? you may need to run rythm box from commandline to get it
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> junka: also, have you uninstalled components from the default ubuntu install?
[20:11] <junka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6439241/
[20:11] <junka> hitsujiTMO, yes
[20:11] <djangonoob> The hardware button from my new notebook to enable/disable wifi is not working and fn+dim hotkeys shows the panel with the sun and it dims in the panel but the light intensity from the display does not change
[20:11] <junka> hitsujiTMO, more like applications nothing more
[20:12] <junka> like abiword and gnumeric for libreoffice
[20:12] <wheatthin> virus, lshw -c video
[20:13] <molgrum> can someone help why i get no system sounds in unity but i get it in gnome shell? specifically the thud-sound in x-chat
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> junka: i'm just wondering if theres a common library that is a dependency for something you uninstalled but is incorrectly not listed as a dependency/recommend for rythmbox
[20:14] <junka> how can i check? with synaptic hitsujiTMO ?
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> junka: do you know exactly what you uninstalled?
[20:15] <junka> yes
[20:15] <junka> i think
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> junka: actually, first can you pastebin: dpkg --get-selections
[20:16] <junka> gnome-mplayer,audacious,abiword,gnumeric,sylfeed on lubuntu. on xubuntu only abiword and gnumeric
[20:17] <junka> the list is too big
[20:17] <junka> it does not scroll up
[20:17] <junka> i am using lxterminal
[20:18] <hitsujiTMO> junka: pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep soup
[20:19] <junka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6439275/ hitsujiTMO
[20:19] <molgrum> i think i have narrowed down my problem, in System -> Sound -> Programs i only see firefox, not x-chat
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> junka: well libsoup is installed so it's not that it is missing
[20:22] <zykotick9> junka: as a test, DON'T AGREE TO IT!, if you run "sudo apt-get autoremove" in a terminal right now, does it want to remove most of your system?
[20:22] <junka> no I have removed them :P
[20:22] <junka> with synaptic
[20:23] <junka> this error I get it with all ubuntu,xubuntu,lubuntu but only on saucy
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> junka: do you have any extra rythmbox plugins installed btw?
[20:24] <junka> no nothing. default installation
[20:24] <Guest25803> hello. i have a lot of pc games (on cd) is there anyway to install them on ubuntu 12.04?
[20:25] <reisio> Guest25803: which games?
[20:25] <Guest25803> games like microsoft train simulator
[20:25] <reisio> Guest25803: http://www.google.com/search?q=world%20of%20warcraft%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org
[20:25] <Oddity> lol
[20:25] <Anita01> Hi everyone, I have problem with my wireless on HP Pavilion 15 e008sv. Ubuntu 12.04.3 64 bit is running now. I'm connected through ethernet cable. Can anyone help me make my wireless work? :(
[20:25] <DJones> !wine | Guest25803
[20:25] <reisio> http://www.google.com/search?q=train%20simulator%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org
[20:27] <shadytv> molgrum, http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3815 does this help any?
[20:27] <g0th> hi
[20:28] <ollie-> hello
[20:28] <artem> hey hey )
[20:28] <Anita01> hello anyone? :(
[20:28] <g0th> after watching a movie and opening another (like an hour later) I don't hear anything anymore
[20:28] <artem> Anita01: yep
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | Anita01
[20:28] <g0th> in pavucontrol everything seems fine (I see the volume bar moving)
[20:28] <Anita01> artem, I have problem with my wireless on HP Pavilion 15 e008sv. Ubuntu 12.04.3 64 bit is running now. I'm connected through ethernet cable. Can anyone help me make my wireless work? :(
[20:28] <junka> hitsujiTMO, is my problem this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/806306
[20:28] <g0th> but I don't hear anything. I didn't change any settings, how can I debug this?
[20:29] <artem> Anita01: try your terminal ifconfig wlan0
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> junka: that has nothing to do with your problem
[20:29] <Anita01> artem, thank god :)
[20:30] <g0th> I use the latest ubuntu version
[20:30] <g0th> with pulseaudio
[20:30] <g0th> but I get the same issue with alsa
[20:30] <Anita01> artem, wlan0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> junka: can you try rythmbox from a live cd and see if the problem occurs. also try disabling as many plugins as possible to rule out an issue with the plugins
[20:30] <g0th> anyone?
[20:31] <artem> Anita01: is your wifi reciever is on?
[20:31] <Anita01> artem, yes am connected through cable.
[20:31] <Anita01> artem, also my mobile device is connected, but no wireless networks are shown on ubuntu 12.0.4.3
[20:32] <shadytv> Anita01 what he means is you hardware switch for your wireless on?
[20:32] <awozniak> skype &
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: do you hear anything when you type the following in the terminal: speaker-test -c 2
[20:32] <Anita01> shadytv: yes!
[20:32] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: no
[20:33] <shadytv> Anita01, can you do an ifconfig and list what interfaces you have?
[20:33] <Anita01> shadytv: yes 1 sec please.
[20:33] <Anita01> shadytv: where to paste all this text ??
[20:33] <junka> hitsujiTMO, yeaaah :D it is streaming after I disabled all plugins
[20:34] <ollie-> g0th might this help? http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[20:34] <junka> Now i cant remember the default ones -_-
[20:34] <shadytv> Anita01, dont paste it anywhere
[20:35] <Anita01> shadytv: I have eth0 and lo.
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> junka: :P       try them one at a time till you figure out which one was causing the crash at least
[20:35] <shadytv> Anita01, tell me you should have eth0, lo and do you have anything else
[20:35] <Anita01> shadytv: no only this 2.
[20:35] <Ziber> Is there a way to use xmonad without tiling?
[20:35] <spideep>  #ubuntu-es
[20:36] <shadytv> Anita01, has it worked before?  did you just install the OS
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: can you install alsa-utils: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils                     then run alsamixer and ensure nothing is muted and try your audio again
[20:36] <Anita01> shadytv: I just installed it, received all updates and that's it.
[20:36] <Anita01> shadytv: I cannot see any networks.
[20:36] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: I already checked alsamuxer, nothing is muted
[20:37] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: also I worked before and I didn't change anything, hmm, why would it be muted?
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: can you pastebin the output of: lspci
[20:37] <junka> thanks hitsujiTMO :D
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> junka: np.
[20:37] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/FEvWcDrg
[20:37] <molgrum> anyone have any idea why i have no system sounds in unity but i do in gnome shell?
[20:38] <molgrum> i have checked the settings in System -> Sound
[20:38] <jenra> tc-one
[20:38] <Anita01> shadytv: ? :/
[20:38] <david38400> I have just installed cheese for my logitech webcam. I turned it on, it worked and I put it in full screen and can't do anything. It seems blocked, I can't make it smaller or use any applications. I have to turn off my computer to get rid of it. Any suggestions please.
[20:38] <shadytv> Anita01, make sure the wifi is on on the computer
[20:38] <Corvette> Hey guys has anyone used NDISWrapper on Ubuntu and does anyone know which Windows wireless drivers you should use with it?
[20:38] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: there are 3 audio devices, my main sound card, an usb micro (no output) and my graphic cards which somehow can pass it on to my monitor which has some builtin boxes (very very bad quality and only working when I turn my amplifier off)
[20:38] <nicksloan> does ubuntu or debian encourage maintainers of packages to run services automatically upon installation? I really don't like that behavior.
[20:39] <Anita01> shadytv: it is..
[20:39] <shadytv> Anita01, otherwise you'll have to istall drivers
[20:39] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: my problem is that I don't hear anything if I set the playback/output to my main sound card
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: does alsamixer refer to the correct device?
[20:39] <zykotick9> nicksloan: it's certainly the default in debian (ubuntu too i'd guess)
[20:39] <Anita01> shadytv: help me how please.
[20:39] <g0th> I use pulse and pavcontrol
[20:39] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: how do I check that?
[20:39] <shadytv> Anita01, from your manufacturers website
[20:39] <g0th> the chip which is shown is the correct one I think
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: run alsamiser. what itens show up in the top left corner
[20:40] <Anita01> shadytv: my drivers are not listed for ubuntu.
[20:40] <g0th> items?
[20:40] <cortexman> i see some instructions for using apt-get to install hbase on ubuntu but i don't see an hbase package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ - anyone know what's up with that?
[20:40] <shadytv> they have a unix/linux option for a driver right?
[20:40] <g0th> I can choose cards with F6
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: what are the entries for card and chip?
[20:41] <Anita01> shadytv: no...
[20:41] <g0th> at the moment my main soundcard
[20:41] <adanoob> Hi all, need your help TIA: Have Nvidia drivers, I can login with Guest and get full Ubuntu GUI, but I login with my user and I get a blank screen!  help please
[20:41] <shadytv> Anita01, damn...
[20:41] <Anita01> shadytv: check for hp for hp pavilion 15 e008sv. and u will see....
[20:41] <Corvette> Hey guys has anyone used NDISWrapper on Ubuntu and does anyone know which Windows wireless drivers you should use with it? And for that matter, might as well ask this too: I'm trying to use NDISWrapper because Ubuntu does not connect to the WiFi at my university. Has anyone had this problem and fixed it some other way?
[20:41] <Ben64> Anita01: pastebin "lspci" and "lsusb"
[20:41] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: HDA Intel PCM, Chip: Realtek ALC898
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: is the speakers turned on and properly connected?
[20:41] <zykotick9> adanoob: fron console (ctrl+alt+f1) log in as your user, then "ls -al" in your home directory, any files owned by root?
[20:42] <g0th> yes
[20:43] <david38400> No help with cheese anyone?
[20:43] <shadytv> Anita01, hold on let me look around a bit
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> david38400: Don't use it full screen.
[20:43] <Anita01> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/yzkLEE17
[20:43] <Anita01> shadytv: ok
[20:44] <Ben64> Anita01: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162026
[20:45] <Anita01> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/18iXqEgA
[20:45] <david38400> jhutchins_wk, Does full screen give lots of problems then. How can I put it back to minimise any ideas?
[20:45] <WobbleHeadDoll> Has anyone been able to get their iPhone 5 with iOS 7.0.4 to be recognized by Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 Bit?
[20:45] <bekks> WobbleHeadDoll: Sure, works fine as USB mass storage device.
[20:46] <WobbleHeadDoll> Does that allow me to sync music to it via Rythmbox?
[20:46] <Anita01> Ben64: i've tried that post ending with errors 2 etc.
[20:46] <g0th> itsujiTMO: any ideas?
[20:46] <zykotick9> david38400: you might be able to log into console (ctrl+alt+f1) then run "killall cheese"
[20:47] <zykotick9> david38400: fyi, alt+f7 (or alt+f8) to get back to GUI
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: i'm quite curious as to why a realtek id is coming up for an intel sound device. can you pastebin the output of: lshw -C communication
[20:48] <Anita01> Ben64: any else ideas?
[20:48] <Anita01> Ben64: any other ideas? excuse me.
[20:50] <adanoob> zykotick9: erm... nevermind, seems to be solved... main monitor was disabled in Nvidia settings... long story of how I figured that out and sort of fixed...
[20:50] <adanoob> zykotick9: thanks anyway
[20:51] <shadytv> Anita01, can you do lspci -vvnn and paste it in a pastebin
[20:51] <zykotick9> adanoob: glad you fixed it!
[20:51] <Anita01> shadytv: yes, my pleasure.
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: here's a thought. did you use headphones at all on the device before the issue occured?>
[20:52] <g0th> yes
[20:52] <g0th> I tried both with and without headphones
[20:52] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/gPnhNapP
[20:53] <g0th> the realtek thingy is from intel hda sound stuff
[20:53] <Anita01> shadytv: http://pastebin.com/NEGXzFq6
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: i have noticed that with intel hda audio and jack detection that if headphones were connected to the front panel/laptop headphone jeck, and the machine is shutdown while its still connected. If the headphones are unplugged before the device is booted up again, the audio is still passed to the headphone jack
[20:55] <stomanata> Hi, i have problems with my flash drive. it give me [523115.788741]  sdb: unknown partition table (i can post all about usb flash from dmesg). On win7 it work....
[20:55] <stomanata> I try with update-usbids, but no luck
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> stomanata, What partition and table type?
[20:57] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: so I remove the jack, reboot and try again?
[20:57] <stomanata> how to check about this wilee-nilee ?
[20:57] <jhutchins_wk> Do you have ntfs-3g installed?
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> stomanata, I would think you know the partition type, is this not the case, and why?
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> g0th.is it a laptop or desktop?
[20:58] <shadytv> Anita01, hmm realtek :/
[20:58] <g0th> desktop
[20:58] <Anita01> shadytv: yeap! what shall I do ?
[20:58] <shadytv> Anita01, honestly im having problems with realtek drivers myself :(
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> stomanata: stomanata: can you dd if=/dev/sda of=~/moo bs=512 count=1
[20:58] <stomanata> Yes. i have ntfs-3g
[20:58] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: I always get this sound problems, is there any useable usb sound card for linux?
[20:59] <g0th> that supports 5.1
[20:59] <g0th> preferably with a digital/optical connection
[20:59] <Anita01> shadytv: damn.. I found a forum like Ben64 told me but it doesn't work even on make or sudo make install.
[20:59] <Anita01> shadytv: ending with errors of kernel 3.8.0-33
[20:59] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: the problem is I can't replace my sound card / no space
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> stomanata: stomanata: can you dd if=/dev/sdb of=~/moo bs=512 count=1                sorry. and can you post that file ~/moo in dropbox or somewhere
[20:59] <shadytv> Anita01, we might have to go the more dangerous route and do it through Ndiswrapper
[20:59] <g0th> I will try it on windows first
[21:00] <stomanata> 1+0 records in   +0 records out  +0 records out
[21:00] <g0th> if it works there it is definitely a linux issue otherwise I guess my soundcard is broken :(
[21:00] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: anything else I should check?
[21:00] <g0th> before I reboot
[21:00] <Anita01> shadytv: why it's dangerous?
[21:01] <g0th> since no answer I assume not
[21:01] <g0th> bbl
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> g0th: thats all i can think of tbh. conecting in and out the headphones and rebooting to ensure that headphone jack is not activated
[21:01] <shadytv> Anita01, you might crash the system it's give or take if it'll work.
[21:01] <shadytv> Anita01, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[21:01] <Xeethrax> Hello. I am getting "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address" when i run dhclient on a wired connection. Been googling for the better part of the day without finding any stories relating quite to mine. Ubuntu 10.04 with a Realtek RTL-8169 card (according to lspci). It's a machine setup from a clone image, so there might be some configuration I don't know about messing things up..
[21:01] <stomanata> http://pastebin.com/LW1m5mKR
[21:02] <stomanata> moment. it is for sda :)
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> stomanata: 2 things. its a binary file so pastebin aint gonna work. and did you see the second one?
[21:02] <Anita01> shadytv: crash the system means?
[21:02] <stomanata> Did this affect my hard drive?!?!
[21:03] <stomanata> Yes. i perform second command :)
[21:03] <shadytv> Anita01, i can cause issues in the kernel and you wont be able to boot the system
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> stomanata: no it wont effect the hdd.
[21:04] <stomanata> http://tranzit.dir.bg/load.php?id=DNUB3bnO3oTby3dE1756199
[21:04] <stomanata> ok. Thanks.
[21:04] <Anita01> shadytv: yes but I can reformat it again through bootable usb right?
[21:04] <zykotick9> Xeethrax: are you aware 10.04 is EOL (on desktop)?  "/msg ubottu eol" for details on that...
[21:05] <shadytv> Anita01, yes you can...
[21:05] <shadytv> Anita01, something a little curious though can you run sudo in front of lspci command some information is missing
[21:05] <Anita01> shadytv: thanks for your time :)))
[21:06] <Anita01> shadytv: sudo lspci ?
[21:06] <shadytv> yes you need to run it as root
[21:07] <Xeethrax> zykotick9: This is a cloned image running the same software on a bunch of machines. Supposedly tested with this hardware.. I'm not going to claim they were completely truthful about that though. Just trying to set up a network of these machines at my home but the nic is giving me a hard time.
[21:07] <zykotick9> Xeethrax: using 10.04 is sillyness...
[21:07] <Anita01> shadytv: http://pastebin.com/7mP2ShEY
[21:08] <g0th> re
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> stomanata: is there 2 partitions on the drive?
[21:08] <shadytv> Anita01, run this sorry sudo lspci -vvnn | grep Network
[21:08] <g0th> my soundcard seems to be broken :(
[21:09] <g0th> what usb soundcard should I use with linux?
[21:09] <g0th> ideally one with digital connection/5.1
[21:09] <stomanata> no. on win7 i perform quick format
[21:09] <Xeethrax> zykotick9: I'll agree to that when there are hardware upgrades involved
[21:10] <Anita01> shadytv: 07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:8179] (rev 01)
[21:11] <Anita01> shadytv: there's anything else you can help me? :/
[21:13] <Xeethrax> zykotick9: but you should realise that in this case, upgrading takes time and money and is not done lightly. We're talking about creating a new stable environment for the app to run, and recloning that on thousands of computers spread across a big geographical area. So the benefits of upgrading must be significant, or a neccessity
[21:13] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: still here?
[21:14] <zykotick9> Xeethrax: see, i view security as "a neccessity", i guess you don't...
[21:14] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: any suggestions what soundcard I should buy that works?
[21:14] <guntbert> zykotick9: +1
[21:14] <ubu_> hi
[21:14] <shadytv> Anita01, sadly im not to sure why your drivers aren't working you could try using an LTS release, they're older but much more stable, you could also try askubuntu or the ubuntu forums those guys helped me out a lot when i was just starting out.
[21:14] <Danato> hi ubu_
[21:14] <ubu_> hab ne frage
[21:14] <Xeethrax> zykotick9: you seem to like making statements when you don't really know anything about the situation
[21:15] <Pici> !de | ubu_
[21:15] <ubu_> its german?
[21:15] <ubu_> thx
[21:15] <zykotick9> Xeethrax: best of luck (not include my nick further please)
[21:15] <Xeethrax> zykotick9: the machines are not exposed to the internet, and "hacking" them wouldn't do much good as they are mostly just displaying information from a server
[21:15] <zykotick9> s/not/don't/
[21:15] <Anita01> shadytv: am on lts ubuntu.
[21:16] <Xeethrax> zykotick9: wait, what, are you pretending that you were actually going to help with anything at some point?
[21:16] <Anita01> shadytv: maybe I should try 32 bit instead of 64 bit ??
[21:16] <molgrum> please, why do i get sound from all applications in both gnome shell and unity except for system sounds in unity? running 13.04
[21:16] <shadytv> Anita01, no LTS is version 10.04 or 12.04 right now.
[21:17] <shadytv> Anita01, LTS stands for "Long Term Support" you are more than likely on 13.10
[21:19] <g0th> anyone
[21:19] <g0th> what good usb soundcard works with linux?
[21:19] <g0th> the price is not a big issue
[21:20] <OerHeks> !hcl
[21:20] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: SoundBlaster or something that emulates one.
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> stomanata: the partititon is marked as type: FE. So in windows terms its a Disk Administration hidden partition. and linux terms its an old LANstep/Linux LVM. Either looks to be a mistake
[21:20] <g0th> it should be a usb card
[21:20] <g0th> I don't think I hvae space for an internal card
[21:20] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: I think you should do some more research on what you already have though.
[21:20] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: well it no longer works on windows
[21:20] <g0th> so my guess is the card is broken
[21:20] <g0th> if it is not
[21:21] <g0th> you/I don't know how to fix it
[21:21] <g0th> so I might as well buy a new one
[21:21] <Ziber> I've asked a few days ago in here for a way to individually control workspace switching on multiple monitors (one being a laptop, the other being an external monitor). Any suggestions?
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> ]g0th: i'm not up on sound cards i'm afraid. I just stick to the motherboard built in cards usually.
[21:21] <g0th> what built in cards work?
[21:21] <g0th> (well)
[21:21] <g0th> again the price is not really the issue
[21:22] <g0th> I would pay 200$ if I knew for sure I got a really good solution that works without any issues
[21:22] <g0th> (or even more)
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> g0th all my devices are intel hda, and are problematic with pulse audio. that's all i can tell you
[21:22] <guntbert> !enter | g0th
[21:23] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: yeah I know they have issues :(
[21:24] <g0th> what do you guys in here use as soundcards?
[21:24] <g0th> or sound doesn't work for you? ^^
[21:24] <notedible> I recently moved and resized an ext4 partition using the latest gparted live CD.. browsing around the drive noticed that all the folders are intact, but more than half the files are gone and are instead in the lost+found directory... anything I can do?
[21:24] <notedible> also, if e2fsck returns no errors, can I trust that the issue was with resizing/moving and not the drive itself?
[21:25] <Ziber> Does Compiz have a separate channel for support?
[21:25] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: Again, CreativeLabs SoundBlasters are pretty much universally supported.
[21:26] <jhutchins_wk> notedible: When messing with partitions, allways back up the contents.
[21:28] <Flaptop> Hello guys, having some issues with getting ubuntu 12.04 64bit running: After getting the installer to run by adding the nomodeset option and a successfull installation. Im having the same problem with just getting a black screen after the splash screen. The nomodeset option is not helping at this point. Any suggestions?
[21:29] <notedible> jhutchins_wk: i have backups but that's not the issue
[21:30] <notedible> it's just a pain because they are all over the place.. this was a central backup repository.. anyway, can I trust the drive?
[21:30] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: https://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetailsDruck1.aspx?Artikel=284977
[21:30] <g0th> what about this?
[21:32]  * lasantha test
[21:33] <jhutchins_wk> notedible: Do you have smartmontools installed?
[21:34] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: I think that wants me to be logged in - and I definitely don't speak Czek.
[21:34] <artem1> Can you name good articles to setup ubuntu as home network router?
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: I've had good luck with Asus and Megabit motherboard chipsets.
[21:35] <Flaptop> I suppose my problem is video card related or something. Should I try and get the ubuntu to boot in a terminal and somehow install nvidia proprietary drivers from there?
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> artem1: Yes,
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> artem1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[21:36] <g0th> jhattara: Creative Sound Blaster Omni Surround 5.1, USB 2.0
[21:36] <jhutchins_wk> artem1: It was originally written for RedHat, but everything pretty much applies (and I think it's been updated to include Debian/Ubuntu).
[21:36] <artem1> jhutchins_wk: thx =)
[21:36] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: You can search for articles about that card and Linux.
[21:37] <lesshaste> I plugged in my android tablet into my usb port.. dmesg seems to show it up
[21:37] <lesshaste> but how do I actually transfer files to it?
[21:37] <artem1> jhutchins_wk: main reason is to set up QoS to separate skype calls and other types of traffic
[21:37] <jhutchins_wk> lesshaste: It _should_ automount as a storage device.  Mine do.
[21:38] <jhutchins_wk> artem1: I'm not sure that goes into QoS.
[21:38] <k1l_> lesshaste: which ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:39] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: trying to
[21:39] <lesshaste> k1l_, 13.04.. it's possible it would just show up in a graphical file system browser
[21:39] <lesshaste> jhutchins_wk, it might have done.. how do I tell?
[21:39] <lesshaste> jhutchins_wk, dmesg looks sort of promising
[21:39] <allstarsnorks2> hi guys. just went from Zorin OS 7 to Ubuntu 13.10
[21:40] <k1l_> lesshaste: make sure the android tablet got activated the option to make itself mountable
[21:40] <lesshaste> jhutchins_wk, and on the tablet it  says "Internal storatge connected"
[21:40] <reisio> allstarsnorks2: neat
[21:40] <lesshaste> k1l_, how do you do that?
[21:40] <kostkon> allstarsnorks2, hi
[21:40] <allstarsnorks2> how do i install gksu in Ubuntu 13.10? seems that relinux wants me to install it.
[21:40] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: I didn't find _anything_ useful on usb soundcard for linux
[21:41] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: my guess is it probably works but only with something like a 50% chance
[21:41] <reisio> a soundcard is a soundcard to GNU/Linux
[21:41] <jhutchins_wk> lesshaste: dmesg will show the events, which may or may not include mounting.  If not, you need to set your system to automatically mount connected volumes, but you should see it in the file manager.  It does depened on which desktop/file manager you use.
[21:41] <zykotick9> allstarsnorks2: install gksu...
[21:41] <g0th> reisio: what?
[21:41] <reisio> g0th: hi
[21:41] <allstarsnorks2> reisio: yep. Zorin OS 7 gave me too many problems. especially sound.
[21:41] <k1l_> lesshaste: make sure gvfs is installed on ubuntu
[21:41] <reisio> allstarsnorks2: weird
[21:42] <lesshaste> jhutchins_wk, http://pastebin.com/3L9eypAy /.. it's sort of promising
[21:42] <allstarsnorks2> zykotick9: but how? sudo apt-get (?)
[21:42] <kostkon> allstarsnorks2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/290810/how-to-add-gksudo-or-what-to-use-instead-in-ubuntu-13-04
[21:42] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: Seriously?  http://bit.ly/IdbwTr
[21:42] <lesshaste> k1l_, gvfs is already the newest version.
[21:43] <zykotick9> allstarsnorks2: the package is call gksu, use whatever you use to installs software.  but yes, "sudo apt-get install gksu" should work.
[21:43] <k1l_> lesshaste: then it should get mounted ootb. which android is running on that tablet?
[21:43] <allstarsnorks2> kostkon: thank you. that will be added in my browser's bookmarks.
[21:43] <lesshaste> k
[21:43] <lesshaste> k1l_, jelly bean
[21:43] <k1l_> oh, jellybean is no mtp.
[21:43] <lesshaste> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/3L9eypAy .. does that say it is mounted?
[21:43] <kostkon> allstarsnorks2, np
[21:43] <allstarsnorks2> zykotick9: the thing is it says GKSU not found or something like that
[21:43] <lesshaste> k1l_, isn't that the latest version ?
[21:44] <zykotick9> !info gksu
[21:44] <zykotick9> allstarsnorks2: see above.  it's lowercase "gksu"
[21:44] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: did you check the google search result? there is nothing useful there...
[21:44] <k1l_> lesshaste: ah yes, sorry multitasking atm :/
[21:44] <g0th> I did check the first link
[21:44] <allstarsnorks2> i'll try it later. mum is telling me to go to bed. haha
[21:45] <jhutchins_wk> lesshaste: Interesting.  sudo mount and see if sg2 is mounted anywhere.
[21:45] <k1l_> lesshaste: make sure its mtp enabled. then ubuntu (talking about clean ubuntu 13.04 or newer with nautilus as file explorer) should mount that ootb
[21:45] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: the first link is about some professional stuff which I don't need and which is probably hard to get working
[21:45] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: second link -> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/hardware_matrix
[21:46] <g0th> I don't get the cryptic comments about usb 2 cards
[21:46] <reisio> allstarsnorks2: what does she know, out having kids accidentally, newb!
[21:46] <g0th> how does this tell me what usb2 solutions work?
[21:46] <g0th> it doesn't
[21:46] <g0th> third link: page not found
[21:46] <allstarsnorks2> reisio: mind you, it's 5:45am
[21:46] <g0th> fourth link: not available
[21:46] <reisio> g0th: you looking to buy something?
[21:46] <reisio> allstarsnorks2: oh, nice mom :)
[21:46] <g0th> yes an usb soundcard for linux
[21:46] <lesshaste> jhutchins_wk, http://pastebin.com/yCAKbLKJ
[21:46] <k1l_> lesshaste: please nopaste a "mount" in terminal
[21:47] <reisio> g0th: #hardware would know one
[21:47] <lesshaste> k1l_, mtp-detect gives lots of lovely output for it
[21:47] <lesshaste> k1l, http://pastebin.com/yCAKbLKJ
[21:47] <allstarsnorks2> haha yea
[21:48] <allstarsnorks2> Well, that will leave me off to start development on Ubuntu based distro
[21:48] <david38400> I can't get gucview working for my web cam. It always says ....  Guvcview error:
[21:48] <david38400> Unable to start with minimum setup
[21:48] <david38400> Any help please
[21:49] <nosmelc> How would a GeForce 8400 GS PCI-E video card work with Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:49] <k1l_> lesshaste: IMHO should that be mounted
[21:49] <lesshaste> k1l_, ok.. where? :)
[21:50] <notedible> jhutchins_wk: yes, i do have it installed
[21:50] <k1l_> lesshaste: doesnt it show up in nautilus on the sidebar in the "devices" group?
[21:50] <lesshaste> k1l_, let me try to run nautilus
[21:50] <dalkeehon> i asked a few days ago a fix to the sound issue for 13.10, now i found miself a good fix for it so if anyone wants to know i'll gladly tell you, besides thansk for the help you gaved me a few days ago
[21:50] <lesshaste> k1l_, what's the right way to do this from unity?
[21:51] <k1l_> lesshaste: again: what ubuntu are you running exactly?
[21:51] <lesshaste> k1l_, oh.. there it is :)
[21:51] <k1l_> lesshaste: i got a fresh 13.10 here with unity and when connecting some androids nautilus pops up with the mountpoint
[21:52] <lesshaste> k1l_, it all works perfectly :)
[21:52] <k1l_> ok
[21:52] <lesshaste> k1l_, I just wasn't using nautiful
[21:52] <lesshaste> k1l_, so where is it from the command line?
[21:52] <lesshaste> I was expecting mount to tell me
[21:52] <k1l_> that was what i was asking before :)
[21:53] <k1l_> no, it gets mounted with gvfs with mtp. gvfs beeing gnome filesystem mounting stuff. that works with nautilus
[21:53] <lesshaste> oh so there is no way to access the mount point from the command line?
[21:54] <g0th> rbrooks: they have less clues than me it seems
[21:54] <lesshaste> thanks in any case
[21:54] <g0th> reisio*
[21:54] <zykotick9> k1l_: that's gnome Virtual file system ;)
[21:55] <k1l_> lesshaste: /run/user/myusername/gvfs/
[21:55] <k1l_> zykotick9: thanks :)
[21:56] <nosmelc> How would a GeForce 8400 GS PCI-E video card work with Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:56] <david38400> I'm having newly installed webcam problems can anyone help please?
[21:57] <reisio> g0th: lies!
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> david38400, State the hardware IE cam and what you have done...details basically to the channel.
[21:57] <jhutchins_wk> notedible: Ok, watch the syslog and dmesg for messages from smart.  If you start to see them frequently it's time to buy new hardware.
[21:58] <notedible> jhutchins_wk: k, thanks
[21:58] <infamy> Hi. I'm trying to hook up my laptop via HDMI to my flatscreen to be able to display Netflix on the TV. When I hook up the HDMI cable, it says No Input still, as if nothing was plugged up at all. It works in Windows, so I'm assuming I don't have something set correctly. Is there anyone available that could please assist?
[21:59] <david38400> wilee-nilee, OK, sorry. I have a webcam Logitech C170. Tried cheese and I put it in full screen mode and couldn't use it or the computer. Tried Guvcview but it says won't work with minimum controls??????
[21:59] <g0th> reisio: how can an "impression" be a lie?
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> david38400, Working otherwise without fullscreen?
[21:59] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: fyi, i believe prior to making it fullscreen, that david38400's webcam was working
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, Heh, seems that way thanks. ;)
[22:01] <reisio> g0th: if it's not honest :) but no matter
[22:02] <david38400> wilee-nilee, The first time I tried it yes. Then I clicked on full screen and can't minimise it or use it
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> david38400, Have you rinsed and repeated?
[22:02] <david38400> zykotick9, yes you are right. Once I put it to fullscreen that was the problem
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:03] <david38400> wilee-nilee, Sorry I'm fairly new and don't understand what you mean?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> david38400, Have you tried again just to see if it works in general, the full screen may be the only problem, is this a full screen from clicking the windows buttons or the f11 or f12 I forget fullscreen?
[22:04] <reisio> g0th: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[22:05] <saam> hi
[22:05] <manor> How do I get Ubuntu to stop cycling the hard disk 10x per minute?
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: On the first page, for me at least, is a discussion that leads to this: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[22:05] <david38400> wilee-nilee, Yes I have tried and it goes straight to full screen. As I can't get rid of it I have to shut down the computer. I clicked on the window button not f11 or f12
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: All of the cards listed there should be plug-and-play on any Linux that uses Alsa.
[22:05] <reisio> manor: laptop?
[22:05] <reisio> saam: hi
[22:06] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: That's not a complete list, that's just ones that the Alsa project knows for sure work.
[22:06] <david38400> wilee-nilee, I tried guvcview but it says won't work with minimum controls so I don't even know what it means.
[22:06] <manor> reisio, yes. It goes nuts, but only on battery power.
[22:06] <saam> does anyone know hidden web?
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> david38400, In general my approach is going through the possibilities, the variables, what screen is going full screen automatically, and have you tried opening it without the camera plugged in and resized it?
[22:07] <jhutchins_wk> g0th: There are two specific cards in this discussion: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=10719
[22:08] <reisio> saam: we're pals
[22:08] <abaddon> I'm having a problem creating a substatution script where it will take in input and write it out to a file using a set of substatution rules. I set letters as other letters, ie- A=Z, etc but when I echo it out it wont substatute
[22:08] <saam> what does it mean?
[22:09] <david38400> wilee-nilee, Thanks for your help and patience. When I turn on cheese the whole screen is used up on my computer automatically. I haven't tried with the camera disconnected. I could do so..... I might disappear from the chat......
[22:09] <saam> i don't speak very dell
[22:09] <k1l_> !it | saam
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> david38400, Would not that seem to be the logical approach?
[22:10] <david38400> wilee-nilee, I agree. I unplugged the cam and tried what you said, but it still came on in full screen and I can't do anything
[22:10] <jhutchins_wk> Seems to me like cheeze was always a small window.  Maybe it depends on screen-vs-camera resolution.
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> david38400, The buttons do not respond?
[22:11] <david38400> wilee-nilee, Nothing responds
[22:11] <david38400> Maybe I should uninstall
[22:11] <david38400> wilee-nilee, How can I uninstall?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> david38400, I don't see it in ~/.config which if removed will rebuild itself, You can sudo apt-get purge cheese && sudo apt-get install cheese if we can't find the config.
[22:14] <david38400> wilee-nilee, will try now.
[22:15] <abaddon> Anyone got an idea?
[22:15] <david38400> wilee-nilee, I did what you said I suppose I should try it again.....
[22:16] <david38400> Without the cam plugged in it couldn't find the device
[22:17] <g0th> jhutchins_wk: the alsa list is about internal soundcards mostly, I didn't find the mentioned soundblaster omni there
[22:17] <david38400> wilee-nilee, No luck I plugged in the cam and it insists on no device found
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> david38400, cheese here the gui goes back and forth with the windows buttons with no problem here, using a logitec c-270 nothing extra installed, I have to wonder if your hardware in genarl or the extra installed stuff is a problem.
[22:17] <Juslintek> Hey guys any of you know any good data scraping from websites software?
[22:18] <reisio> Juslintek: wget, curl
[22:18] <david38400> wilee-nilee, Its a Logitech C170 webcam
[22:18] <manor> reisio, you still there?
[22:18] <reisio> manor: hi
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> david38400, Yes I know, but you get my point right?
[22:19] <david38400> wilee-nilee, Sorry I'm not used to Ubuntu 12.04 so I don't understand what you say.
[22:19] <david38400> How can I uninstall and start again. Is that easy
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> david38400, In a terminal run sudo apt-get purge cheese && sudo apt-get install cheese
[22:20] <manor> Did you have any ideas on correcting hard disk power management? I have spindown disabled in settings, so I'm missing something or there's a bug.
[22:21] <reisio> manor: internal hard disks?
[22:21] <david38400> wilee-nilee, I did that earlier and I still have the same problem. If I just want to delete do I run ...
[22:21] <david38400> sudo apt-get get purge cheese? Will that delete it
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> david38400, I would not here that some of what I said is not ubuntu only in asking if the hardware is up to the task or extra stuff installed to try and get it working, that applies in general to using any OS.
[22:21] <david38400> I want to properly remove everything
[22:22] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> Can someone direct me to resources all security related?
[22:22] <manor> Yeah, 2.5" Sammy 320GB SATA 1.5Gbps
[22:22] <david38400> wilee-nilee, sorry can't answer that. I will have to get my technician in then if there is no solution. I am surprised nobody here can help me.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> david38400, purge removes the app and the config install reinstall sit.
[22:23] <elspuddy> hi, how do i make ubuntu dial in to a bbs ?
[22:23] <abaddon> david38400: What's the prob?
[22:23] <david38400> wilee-nilee, So I just run.... sudo apt-get purge cheese?
[22:23] <david38400> abaddon
[22:23] <david38400> abaddon, Hi there. I installed cheese for my webcam, put it on full screen and cant minimise.
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> david38400, Copy and paste the whole command and then run it and when done check cheese again.
[22:24] <abaddon> david38400: Have you tried F11?
[22:24] <david38400> wilee-nilee, I did that earlier and I still have the same problem..... I can try again if you think it will help.
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, Please don't just interrupt.
[22:24] <abaddon> david38400: I mean the key
[22:24] <david38400> abaddon, when do I F11?
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> david38400, With purge?
[22:24] <david38400> once I have the webcam in full screen?
[22:24] <bekks> david38400: when cheese is started fullscreen.
[22:25] <david38400> ok guys will try, thanks
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> david38400, Close cheese, run the whole command the open cheese.
[22:25] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: david38400 Yes, if it's in full screen have you tried pressing F11 to exit full screen? Also, wilee-nilee sorry.
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, You have not followed the whole conversation, the user is a bit confused, and you are not helping this is all. ;)
[22:26] <jhutchins_wk> david38400: Which release are you on, what desktop?
[22:26] <david38400> wilee-nilee, I cant use it now, it can't find the device. I will try and run the command you mentionned to uninstall and install again
[22:26] <david38400> jhutchins_wk, Ubuntu12.04
[22:27] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: I thought the convo ended so I was trying to hlp ou. XD Sorry for the confusion david38400.
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> david38400, I give up this is a circular help with people now just interuppting a waste of my time, good luck.
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> wilee-nilee: Will purge remove the user-specific config files in the home directory?
[22:27] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: No.
[22:28] <jhutchins_wk> I didn't think so.
[22:28] <abaddon> Well david38400 since wilee-nilee has dumped you care to explain to me what's going on?
[22:28] <david38400> wilee-nilee, OK thanks in any case....... I have followed your info on the sudo apt and trying again.
[22:29] <david38400> abaddon, Wilee hasn't dumped me, he's tried to be very helpful, but I am getting inpatient and nervous with such a simple issue
[22:29] <david38400> I just don't understand why its so complicated to connect a simpel web cam
[22:29] <david38400> abaddon, Can you tell me how to just delete cheese in the proper way.
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, I have stopped as idiots like you are interrupting.
[22:30] <bekks> david38400: sudp apt-get purge cheese
[22:30] <david38400> bekks, will see if it works. Thanks
[22:30] <zykotick9> david38400: depends on the specific hardware involved, it should be plug-in = working.
[22:30] <abaddon> david38400: sudo apt-get purge cheese
[22:31] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: I understand you are getting frustrated but calling other people idiots doesn't help
[22:31] <david38400> Thanks guys I have now removed Cheese.  Can anyone suggest an app to run a webcam on Ubuntu 12.04 or isn't there one?
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> david38400: Try this: gsettings reset-recursively org.gnome.Cheese:/apps/cheese
[22:31] <Danato> reisio: are you there?
[22:32] <abaddon> david38400: Is cheese the only web cam software you'll use or are you up for others?
[22:32] <reisio> Danato: yarp
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> david38400: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[22:32] <abaddon> david38400: I suggest guvcview
[22:32] <david38400> Guys I am open to use any app that will work......
[22:33] <Danato> reisio: when installing windows xp on virtualbox, should i choose the option that the pc will connect through a network or directly to the internet?
[22:33] <david38400> abaddon, I tried guvcviewbut it wouldnt work either. It said it wouldn't connnect on minimum settings and I couldn't find out how to resolve that problem.
[22:33] <jhutchins_wk> david38400: That command I posted should reset cheeze to it's defaults - which should not be full-screen.
[22:33] <david38400> jhutchins_wk, Thanks for your help will try.
[22:34] <abaddon> david38400: yikes....
[22:34] <jhutchins_wk> david38400: Here is the manual for Cheeze: https://help.gnome.org/users/cheese/2.91/cheese.html
[22:34] <reisio> Danato: doubt it matters, but through a network is fine
[22:35] <david38400> jhutchins_wk, Thanks for your help..... will give up for tonight.
[22:35] <david38400> abaddon, Thanks for your help too
[22:36] <BlackDalek> how do I re-assign the media play/pause keys in system settings/keyboard/shortcuts back to default if it won't let me assign the play/pause key to to functions? (play AND pause)... what is the solution?
[22:36] <david38400> wilee-nilee, Thanks to you too.   I will have another look tomorrow
[22:36] <david38400> Good night all
[22:36] <BlackDalek> *to two
[22:36] <abaddon> david38400: Good luk
[22:36] <david38400> Thanks
[22:36] <abaddon> david38400: Good luck*
[22:36] <elspuddy> can some one tell me how to make ubuntu dial a bbs ? :)
[22:37] <Danato> reisio: yeah it worked this time, i reinstalled windows to check what did i do wrong at the beginning, but it was jst a VB configuration thing. thanks anyways
[22:37] <reisio> coo
[22:37] <reisio> gj
[22:39] <BlackDalek> is there any way to restore the play/pause media key to play AND pause in keyboard shortcuts? Or is this now impossible once unset?
[22:39] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> join #ubuntu_offtopic
[22:39] <reisio> BlackDalek: I'm sure you could swing it
[22:39] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> ! off topic
[22:40] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> !offtopic
[22:40] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> its always the - i cant remember
[22:40] <Rory> elspuddy: Here is a guide to accessing BBS using telnet http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/howto.asp
[22:40] <elspuddy> thank rory :)
[22:41] <notadrill> These channels are pretty dead..
[22:42] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> Some times its moving
[22:42] <leone> Is there a proxy that I can run that will edit my HTTP traffic and include ads?
[22:42] <unholycrab> how do i create a .deb package which is just a directory of files? no compiling or dependencies necessary
[22:42] <bekks> notadrill: This is the biggest channel on freenode :P
[22:42] <leone> for my VPS, I could use it to make money
[22:43] <sybariten> damn, multiboot usb information on the web is confusing
[22:43] <notadrill> I'm completely new to IRC.. Never used it before to be honest.. just came to check it out!
[22:43] <djangonoob> The hardware button from my new notebook to enable/disable wifi is not working and fn+dim hotkeys shows the panel with the sun and it dims in the panel but the light intensity from the display does not change
[22:44] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> I'm pretty new with irc too.
[22:44] <xangua> sybariten: I use Multisystem wich does all for me
[22:44] <Rory> !offtopic | notadrill
[22:44] <abaddon> sybariten: Use Multysystem
[22:44] <notadrill> Oops, apparently using the wrong channel for general banter! toodle pip guys. Sorry 'bout that.
[22:44] <abaddon> sybariten: Use Multisystem*
[22:45] <reisio> toodle pip
[22:46] <sybariten> abaddon: xangua : which one is that? YUMI? The name is a bit general
[22:47] <leone> Would anyone like to buy a VPS off me in BTC?
[22:47] <abaddon> sybariten: It's the name. =/ I can send a link if needed?
[22:47] <xangua> sybariten: http://liveusb.info/dotclear/ instructions to install: http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[22:47] <k1l_> leone: that is not the right channel for offers/advertises like that.
[22:47] <leone> ok sorry
[22:48] <abaddon> sybariten: Here is the link:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[22:49] <sybariten> xangua: ah, yeah, ive been there. It was not among the five pages i bookmarked to be honest. THat page is a perfect example of what i mean, its really quite confusing
[22:50] <abaddon> sybariten: XD Yeah...but it is litterally the best tool to create multiple boot usb systems
[22:50] <bbcom> are questions about xubuntu at the right place in this chat?
[22:50] <fishduck> zup... gedit adds \n at the end of files. Is it a bug or feature?
[22:50] <reisio> bbcom: they're fine
[22:50] <bbcom> thx
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> fishduck: That's "new line".
[22:51] <xangua> sybariten: commands are not confusing, and you can just download the install script like the instructions abaddon gave you
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> fishduck: That's only seen in gedit, right?
[22:51] <sybariten> abaddon: yeah ive read about that one.... is it a script or a GUI, btw ?
[22:51] <sybariten> THey call it a script but it seems like it has a gui...
[22:51] <k1l_> fishduck: that is not gedit adding it. its geddit showing it. windows editors add that
[22:51] <reisio> you can make a GUI from a "scripting language"
[22:51] <fishduck> jhutchins_wk: I read that it's a "feature" of vim too, but no idea. But it's hellish annoying.
[22:51] <bekks> reisio: yes.
[22:52] <reisio> yes
[22:52] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> I love this chat. so much. Please keep talking, I'm learning so much.
[22:52] <abaddon> sybariten: The actual page for MultiSystem is in french. Soooo...yeah, I sent you the easy page,lol. It's a totally GUI based prob
[22:52] <iskydale> ciao a tutti
[22:52] <bbcom> where can I find crash reports in xubuntu 12.04?
[22:52] <abaddon> sybariten: The actual page for MultiSystem is in french. Soooo...yeah, I sent you the easy page,lol. It's a totally GUI based prog*
[22:53] <abaddon> sybariten: So litterally it's the easyest one to use.
[22:53] <sybariten> abaddon: yeah, ive been there too, as i mentioned to xangua . I happen to speak french, but how often do people release software on non-english pages really? I dont think it helps the popularity unfortunately
[22:54] <abaddon> sybariten: Totally true..but the French aren't generally friendly...imho....
[22:54] <sybariten> but really, take a look at this page for the program/system which is supposed to maybe be the best for multiboot USBs. https://sites.google.com/a/rmprepusb.com/www/  is that a shitload of information or what? How do you know what to (not) read, or even where to start
[22:54] <FormerlyUbnoobtu> so they wouldn't care for the effort?
[22:54] <bbcom> I have a question about accounts-daemon crashed in xubuntu 12.04. Anyone?
[22:54] <abaddon> sybariten: So yeah, look at the link, get the deb file mand run it. Should install fine and be usable imediatly.
[22:55] <sybariten> hehe i wont say anything bad about the french as it would be un-tactical  :-D
[22:55] <xangua> sybariten: commands are not in french...
[22:55] <abaddon> xangua: I don't think sybariten thinks they ar in french?
[22:56] <sybariten> oh, a sidenote, abaddon and xangua : (and soething that i generally find is not very clearly explained on _any_ of these methods homeages) : does multiboot allow you to really boot the actual ISO file as it is, and thus adapts itself to the ISO files it will find on a memory?
[22:57] <sybariten> or will the ISO files still be needed to be installed somehow
[22:57] <abaddon> sybariten: Ummm, not sure what you mean? Are you talking about a sort of persisten mode??
[22:58] <sybariten> no, forget about persistence
[22:58] <abaddon> sybariten: As for booting the iso, yeah, more or less it boots the actual iso.
[22:58] <sybariten> imagine haveing five ISOs on a usb memory. Im talking about the actuall 700 mb ISO files. Can your system detect these files and present you with a menu where you can choose which one to boot?
[22:58] <xangua> sybariten: it will copy the iso to the usb and also install grub and make the apropiate configuration for it; you can set it to persisten also if you want to
[22:59] <Ziber> I am currently running a dualboot setup, primarily using Ubuntu but keeping Windows around for iTunes and a few programs I need (such as MS Project) that are Windows-only. Is there a way I can take the existing partition on my harddrive and turn it into a VM in Virtualbox?
[22:59] <abaddon> sybariten: Yes
[22:59] <sybariten> and then you maybe DL a new (sixth) one, a slackware live ISO or something, and then if you put that on the USB memory you can also choose that one
[23:00] <abaddon> sybariten: yup
[23:00] <sybariten> xangua: coz generally speaking when they "copy the iso", they inflate it
[23:00] <abaddon> sybariten: Tha's why it's sooo good as a prog. It's stupid easy to add or del an iso as needed.
[23:01] <sybariten> abaddon: ok youve sold it to me
[23:01] <abaddon> sybariten: I use Hirens boot cd, An OS I made, and Trinity rescue on my usb
[23:01] <sybariten> ok
[23:01] <abaddon> sybariten: YAAYYY!! Welcome to the best thing since sliced bread,lol
[23:03] <bbcom> If on bugs.launchpad it says 'Fix Released' where can I find that fix?
[23:03] <sybariten> hehehe
[23:04] <bbcom> I have a question about accounts-daemon crashed in xubuntu 12.04. Anyone?
[23:04] <daftykins> just ask.
[23:05] <bbcom> xubuntu shows a crash report every time I boot: accounts-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_connection_send()
[23:05] <bbcom> found it at bugs.launchpad
[23:06] <bbcom> it says 'Fix Released'
[23:06] <sasha_> hi how can i disable X/gdm from starting upon boot and manually launch it ?
[23:06] <bbcom> but where can I find the fix?
[23:06] <zykotick9> !text | sasha_
[23:06] <rbrooks> hi did someone need me im here
[23:07] <zykotick9> sasha_: fyi, it's X/lightdm if you're using a supported ubuntu version (and haven't changed teh default DM)
[23:07] <sasha_> zykotick9, and then to start gdm  ? i just launch /etc/init.d/gdm or service gdm start (change lightdm to gdm)
[23:08] <rbrooks> yuo highlight me ubottu?  :)
[23:08] <abaddon> sybariten: Doing ok?
[23:08] <zykotick9> sasha_: i'd guess, or better "sudo service lightdm start"
[23:08] <sasha_> zykotick9, but text or no text in the kernel line; how is X started in ubuntu ? .Xsession ??
[23:09] <blognewb> hello guys? can i ask about the live cd here or is there another channel for that?
[23:09] <zykotick9> sasha_: ahhh, Xorg (lightdm) would probably be started by upstart.
[23:09] <rbrooks> blognewb, i'll give it a shot
[23:09] <rbrooks> !ask
[23:10] <sasha_> zykotick9, ok my ultimate goal is to understand how is pulseaudio started; it seems like it is in /et/init but it is started per user
[23:10] <blognewb> hi sorry i was going to ask if i can put the live cd into an SD card instead. Can it auto load from there during boot ala livecd? And also while the livecd is running, can it detect a usb stick, while you are inside the ubuntu livecd or not?
[23:10] <sasha_> under the user context
[23:10] <blognewb> @ rbrooks or anyone
[23:11] <zykotick9> sasha_: sorry, i don't personally know... good luck.
[23:11] <sasha_> zykotick9, but  i can't see it in autostart/crontab ...
[23:11] <sasha_> zykotick9, ha  htanks
[23:11] <rbrooks> blognewb, sdcard in a usb2 sdcard reader maybe
[23:12] <blognewb> ** i meant can i access files inside a usb stick while im in the livecd loaded to a laptop with a win7 os
[23:12] <rbrooks> if you are booted yes you should see/mount usb drives
[23:12] <rbrooks> ^
[23:13] <felipesierra> Hi to everyone...please someone that can help me whit this error...when I start my pc , appear the follow errror EXT4-fs (sda 1): last error at 1384698387: __ext4_get_inode_loc:3629:inode  4720112:block  18874494
[23:14] <zykotick9> felipesierra: i'd recommend starting from a livecd/usb and fscking your sda1 partition...
[23:14] <daftykins> felipesierra: sounds like your disk has some troubles, what happened before this started to come up?
[23:14] <daftykins> and do what zykotick9 said ^
[23:15] <abaddon> sasha_: you can check /etc/xdg/gnome/xinitrc Or whatever you window manager is I think
[23:15] <rbrooks> i think you could put the live iso onto a sdcard while loaded in a reader and even boot from it create it with "UUI"
[23:15] <rbrooks> blognewb, ^
[23:15] <abaddon> sasha_: ie, if you're using xfce4 the it'd likely be /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc
[23:16] <blognewb> can an ubuntu livecd also detect an sd card instead of a usb drive while it's on, rbrooks ?
[23:16] <felipesierra> daftykins: appear a screen whit some options and this error appear when I starr the pc en recovery mode
[23:16] <rbrooks> i think that would depend...
[23:16] <abaddon> sasha_: Ultimatly I think pulse starts through daemon
[23:16] <rbrooks> blognewb, depends whether the reader device is detected/supported
[23:17] <daftykins> felipesierra: so yeah, boot a CD/DVD/USB of ubuntu and fsck your disk
[23:17] <blognewb> rbrooks, supported by what
[23:17] <rbrooks> tias yrmv :)
[23:17] <rbrooks> Linux/Ubuntu
[23:17] <sasha_> abaddon, no it is xdg jus tfigured out thanks
[23:17] <rbrooks> the reader itself lots are proprietary
[23:18] <rbrooks> load a live cd and see...  oh yeah
[23:18] <abaddon> sasha_: Huh....
[23:18] <rbrooks> :)
[23:18] <abaddon> sasha_: Ok, cool
[23:18] <rbrooks> dont forget to thank whomever wrote the driver
[23:18] <sasha_> abaddon, btw i guess pasuspender is more dedicated to my ultimate goal :
[23:19] <felipesierra> daftykins: zykotick9 : could be that my disk is damage?
[23:19] <daftykins> it could be, yes
[23:19] <Ari-Yang> felipesierra: I recommend getting an iso from here http://releases.ubuntu.com/ and make a bootable usb
[23:19] <daftykins> felipesierra: boot a liveCD! :)
[23:19] <abaddon> sasha_: What's your ultimate goal?
[23:19] <Ari-Yang> felipesierra: could mean bad sectors... I got that like 3 weeks ago, had to boot off of a bootable usb and run fsck
[23:20] <felipesierra> Ari-Yang: daftykins zykotick9 thanks so much
[23:21] <sasha_> abaddon, starting xbmc with direct access to device without pulseaudio
[23:21] <Ari-Yang> felipesierra: np, use start up disk creator, it should already be installed
[23:21] <abaddon> sasha_: Why not have a script kill pulse at the begining?
[23:23] <sasha_> abaddon, i still want a full DE that starts xbmc with direct device access
[23:23] <sasha_> abaddon, just needed to figured out where and how it is started in the first place :)
[23:23] <rbrooks> blognewb, just to be clear, a usb card reader should always work
[23:23] <abaddon> sasha_: Yould just add to your session manager or .xsession pulseaudio -k
[23:25] <rbrooks> if it is proprietary/builtin yrmv...
[23:25] <abaddon> sasha_: Ahhh...I had a guy earlyer ask about starting modules within xbmc. You may want to look at using /etc/modules to ether stop or start pulse.
[23:25] <rbrooks> blognewb, i gtg hth
[23:26] <rbrooks> ciao
[23:26] <sasha_> abaddon, my issue is that xbmc with pulse audio do not support dts hd ma / true hd 5.1/7.1
[23:26] <sasha_> abaddon, only dts-core 5.1
[23:26] <blognewb> rbrooks, thank you so much
[23:26] <rbrooks> no problemo
[23:26] <rbrooks> anytime cya
[23:26] <abaddon> sasha_: It should handel pulse. I just don't know the command for its module. Errr...I'll pretend I got that,lol. Have you looked to just using ALSA?
[23:27] <zykotick9> sasha_: "pasuspender xbmc" should disable pulse... (i'd forgotten about that option)
[23:27] <sasha_> abaddon, yes but pulese don't handle dts-hd ma/ dolby true hd
[23:28] <abaddon> sasha_: You mean ALSA right? or both?
[23:28] <omg_scout> Hello. Is it normal that I have much worse experience with gaming on Ubuntu using Intel HD cards than on Windows?
[23:28] <abaddon> omg_scout: loolz...intel....
[23:28] <sasha_> abaddon, upon some xbmc devs;  xbmc have ALSA and pulseaudio support but pulseaudio is limited to stereo and 5.1 core
[23:29] <sasha_> abaddon, so just nned to wrap xbmc launch/close with pulseaudio start/stop
[23:29] <nismoSVK> intel HD on ubuntu should works really good
[23:29] <omg_scout> abaddon: what is so funny? I play non demanding games
[23:29] <azio_m> why ubuntu /home/myusername is not showing when i logged in as root - recovery mode through shell?
[23:29] <abaddon> sasha_: But ALSA can support it?
[23:29] <zykotick9> nismoSVK: for gaming... not so much...
[23:29] <sasha_> abaddon, pulse is a wrapper around alsa right ?
[23:29] <abaddon> omg_scout: It's Intel...shoulda gone with Nvidia...or ATI
[23:29] <abaddon> sasha_: Yes
[23:30] <abaddon> sasha_: Well...more or less
[23:30] <nismoSVK> zykotick9 yes not for gaming
[23:30] <zykotick9> sasha_: pulse runs onto of alsa yes.  it replaces ESD.
[23:30] <sasha_> abaddon, yes direct alsa support it ; tested with openelec
[23:30] <nismoSVK> nvidia is the best now for linux gaming i think
[23:30] <zykotick9> s/onto/ontop/
[23:30] <abaddon> sasha_: I once argued to a guy about purging pulse from the system and solely using ALSA and the forums called me an idiot,lol
[23:30] <sasha_> zykotick9, ok that s it xbmc has its own audio engine separate from esd/oss/pulseaudio/ jackd .....
[23:31] <omg_scout> abaddon: Why? Intel Hd4600 has enough power to run all 5 years old games I belive, and you get it for free. Anyway, I have issues with its driver, which I belive is not 100% following its windows counterpart
[23:31] <abaddon> sasha_: It's never hurt me. But removing pulse will limit other functionality.
[23:31] <abaddon> omg_scout: So you're using the propiatary drivers rather than the open drivers?
[23:32] <nismoSVK> for intel HD cards is usually newest kernel the best
[23:32] <sasha_> abaddon, ok guess i found my cuplrit here  : http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/7130/2
[23:32] <nismoSVK> HD3000/HD4000, newest kernel = better performance
[23:33] <abaddon> sasha_: Ahhh..I learn something new every day
[23:33] <omg_scout> nismoSVK:  I have 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu. Is it worth going for a newer?
[23:33] <abaddon> I'da advocated purging pulse. But the thing is I don't know how xbmc would handle it.
[23:33] <abaddon> XD
[23:34] <nismoSVK> omg_scout no if u dont want, its good
[23:34] <nismoSVK> 3.11 have good results for intel HD
[23:35] <abaddon> sasha_: Glad you found your culprit though
[23:35] <omg_scout> nismoSVK: Thank you, I will have a try. I don't want to keep dual boot only for those few games I play once in a month
[23:35] <sasha_> abaddon, ;) thanks for your time btw
[23:36] <abaddon> sasha_: Np, sorry I wasn't much help
[23:36] <sasha_> abaddon, need to restart to test bye
[23:36] <abaddon> sasha_: ciao
[23:36] <nismoSVK> omg_scout: fine, i am using "only" 3.9.9 and its fine with intel, but i have nvidia optimus too, i use more times nvidia...what games u want play on linux?
[23:37] <icewalker> how can install an older version (not the latest) of konqueror broswer for testing?
[23:38] <omg_scout> nismoSVK: It is mainly Crusader Kings, which uses Shaders I belive. I tried on their forum, but they claim they do not have active programmers in Linux to help that. On Windows it works well, on Ubuntu very ugly and slow.
[23:39] <zykotick9> icewalker: forwardporting is non-trivial most of the time...
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, Sorry for calling you an idiot earlier, it was not fair. However I had asked the cheese user if they had hit f11, it just seemed you were more interested in giving answers rather than or knowing the whole picture we had at that point.
[23:39] <zykotick9> !cookie | wilee-nilee ;)
[23:39] <nismoSVK> omg_scout: u run it with WINE? i think u should try CSMT version of wine, whitch can improve direct3D games on linux very well (if it is on d3d)
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I'm just willing to answer to my foibles, hehe. ;)
[23:40] <blognewb> Hi, can a livecd ubuntu run via a usb stick/drive detect/recognize a mounted sd card and read the files in it?
[23:40] <omg_scout> nismoSVK: Nope, it got official linux client, which one can get using Steam. Other Steam games work well on Ubuntu, like Half-life 2, which, I belive is as demanding as Crusader Kings
[23:41] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: I think I'll live..barely. ;P Anyway, I apologize too as I should have asked to step in and get tyhe whole picture. Sorry....
[23:41] <icewalker> i trying to get/install an older broswer client that do support sni for testing on ubuntu13
[23:41] <sprachgenerator> I'm needing some help troubleshooting a pxe/netboot install, the system was working great but unfortunately something changed and I'm not sure what - right now the installer is hanging right at loading the megasas driver as noted in terminal 4, my seed file is here: http://pastebin.com/UZqnUSXC
[23:41] <icewalker> s/do/dont/
[23:41] <Guest24204> Hi I encrypted my ubuntu /home. Now trying a debian OS (mint) any idea's how I can get it to read the encrypted data (what encryption tool does Ubuntu installer use?)
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, I know you will. ;)
[23:41] <nismoSVK> omg_scout: yes and u have problem with fps than ?
[23:42] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: bwahajhahahahhahaha Ayyy
[23:42] <omg_scout> nismoSVK: FPS is lower, but also it just looks very ugly... hard to describe. Looks like it did some task on CPU, which is usually done on GPU, but I am not an expert here/
[23:42] <icewalker> i run into problem getting an old version of broswers (like firefox etct), any suggestions?
[23:43] <omg_scout> nismoSVK: Resolution and all graphic settings are all the same
[23:43] <nismoSVK> omg_scout: yes its problem with game than, they should fix it soon
[23:44] <Sam__> Is there anyone that has been able to install Ubuntu 12.x in a dual boot mode on Lenovo T series laptops? My main concern is compatibility with graphics and wireless. I have checked both the Lenovo and Ubuntu hardware compatibility web site. There is a clause there that the standard ubuntu may not work well with the certified systems.  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201309-14169/
[23:44] <nismoSVK> omg_scout: maybe u can try run it with WINE (windows version of the game) if u will have same issues, maybe its problem only with linux client
[23:45] <reisio> Sam__: if the install image works, that's that
[23:45] <reisio> if it doesn't work, it might still work with some extra effort
[23:46] <omg_scout> nismoSVK: People say it works with other gfx cards, so I hope it will get resolved sooner or later;)
[23:47] <nismoSVK> omg_scout: yes it will :-)
[23:47]  * wilee-nilee attempts a kinder nicer persona on the IRC just for fun
[23:48] <allstarsnorks2> hi guys, i am having a problem installing gksu on my Ubuntu 13.10 install
[23:48] <Sam__> reisio: I am planning to buy a lenovo model T with Windows installed and make it dual boot by using ubuntu's installer from Windows. I was trying to find if anyone has been able to perform this and on which Lenvo T model.
[23:49] <abaddon> allstarsnorks2: What happens when you try?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> allstarsnorks2, sudo apt-get install gksu does not do it?
[23:49] <jvore> I love Ubuntu 13.10
[23:49] <omg_scout> Sam__: I did that, any questions?
[23:49] <allstarsnorks2> abaddon: E: Unable to locate package gksu
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> allstarsnorks2, What release, and this is a canononical ubuntu right, not a derivative?
[23:50] <abaddon> allstarsnorks2: Welll...this may better suit wilee-nilee
[23:50] <allstarsnorks2> canonical Ubuntu 13.10
[23:50] <omg_scout> Sam__: I installed ubuntu 12 and 13 + Windows 7 and 8 dualboot on T530 and T430,  almost all configurations, worked without issues
[23:51] <allstarsnorks2> wilee-nilee: 100% Ubuntu 13.10 from Canonical
[23:52] <Guest24204> anyone know about accessing data encrypted by Ubuntu?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> allstarsnorks2, Can you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin it?
[23:52] <Sam__> omg_scout: Two quick questions. 1) Which Lenovo model T did you use ? Do you remember ther graphcs and wireless chip vendor? 2) Were you able to install ubuntu using the dual boot installer from Ubuntu  on Windows 7?
[23:53] <blognewb> Hi, guys? can a livecd ubuntu run via a usb stick/drive detect/recognize a mounted sd card and read the files in it?Hi, can a livecd ubuntu run via a usb stick/drive detect/recognize a mounted sd card and read the files in it?
[23:53] <allstarsnorks2> just a minute
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> blognewb, Should, you mounting it from the live session>?
[23:54] <abaddon> May I stephan in for a sec wilee-nilee? Looking it up it seems gksu has been left out after Ubu 13:04 Rather gksudo is used in its stead.
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, YOu have to have gksu to run gksudo I believe.
[23:55] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: Saysthey're not identical
[23:55] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: Says they're not identical on the forums
[23:55] <blognewb> wilee-nilee, from the live session sir yes
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, I have seen that error when I ran it without it being installed I believe.
[23:55] <omg_scout> Sam__: I used T530 (I do not have it anymore so I cannot tell you about wifi vendor) but it had intel HD4000. I dualbooted using GRUB, without problems. Ubuntu worked "out of the box", Windows 7 needed most of the drivers installed (including ethernet card, which is pretty fail). Now I have T430 , also dualboot with Windows, and not a single problem with them.
[23:55] <shadytv_> abaddon, that's weird because i saw that gksudo is gone. I can get gksu just not gksudo
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> blognewb, So not being read? what format is the ssd in  and has there been a problem with it already?
[23:56] <allstarsnorks2_> wilee-nilee: http://pastebin.com/cRqRkPtP
[23:56] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: shadytv_ here is the discussion about it. Guy talked to devs about it.http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04
[23:57] <mojtaba1> Hi, I have connected my mobile (android) to my laptop (ubuntu). but when I run the command lsblk, I can not see the partition of the mobile phone. Do you know how can I cp my mobile contents via cmd?
[23:57] <reisio> mojtaba1: honestly easier to do it over wireless
[23:57] <mehwork> i have a 5 year old eeepc (netbook). What version of ubuntu is optimized for it these days?
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, "As a clarification, gksudo and gksu are not identical, even though one is a symbolic link to another"
[23:57] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: true
[23:57] <blognewb> wilee-nilee, no i am planning to go get an sd card and another usb stick now, i was trying to make sure if a livecd run via usb drive can mount/read/write to an sd card or should i get another usb
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> abaddon, I have had an error on gksudo " install gksu"
[23:58] <allstarsnorks2_> so, any luck? @wilee-nilee?
[23:58] <strtok> i hate abaddon
[23:58] <mojtaba1> reisio: Just for my curiosity. How can I do that via cmd?
[23:58] <omg_scout> Sam__: Do you need help partitioning or anything?
[23:58] <abaddon> bwahahaha strtok thanks.... wilee-nilee mmmmmmk
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> allstarsnorks2_, open the sources list and untick the partners run a update and try again.
[23:59] <blognewb> wilee-nilee, are you still there?
[23:59] <reisio> mojtaba1: without wireless?
[23:59] <abaddon> strtok: Don't worry, you can bash me since I have to go. =] I hate me at times too.
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> blognewb, Yes
[23:59] <mojtaba1> reisio: yes
[23:59] <allstarsnorks2_> wilee-nilee: how do i do that? SOrry, I'm a LInux noob here.
[23:59] <reisio> mojtaba1: you'd have to find the devices and mount them