[00:17] I may have to wait for tomorrow anyway. [14:50] knome: FYI Xubuntu's current ISO directory also has old saucy images in it. Am I the first one to download a trusty image? [14:51] OvenWerks: Could be [14:51] I left a message in -release [14:56] zequence: Re: the bottom panel, I can set the bottom panel so that it only activates when the mouse hits the bottom of the screen in the area where the icons are rather than along the whole bottom of the screen. [14:56] OvenWerks: Well, before making any changes to our source, let's first discuss the direction we want to go with the desktop [14:57] No one has said, let's create a custom Ubuntu Studio DE based on XFCE yet [14:57] I mean, yes, it is kind of custom, but not in any big way [14:57] That way it is impossible to have a user trying to click on an app behind the invisble part of the pannel fail. [14:57] And, before, we were aiming at doing no customization at all [14:57] OvenWerks: You could propose these ideas to Xubuntu too, you know [14:57] OK [14:58] That way, Ubuntu Studio could just import their setup as is. [14:58] But, if you feel they don't share your vision at all, let's talk about doing our own. And, we discuss before we make changes