[00:14] <valorie> Riddell: how about linking to http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com/2013/10/kubuntu-1310-saucy-salamander-review.html for the wire?
[00:16] <valorie> sgclark: our biggest need, besides what you said on the list, is our installation section, which is stopped cold for lack of someone with enough knowledge to write it
[00:16] <valorie> Riddell: another good one is http://techlorebyigor.blogspot.com/2013/10/kubuntu-1310-is-for-keeps.html
[00:23] <sgclark> valorie: ok, I wuill take a look
[00:24] <valorie> cool
[00:24] <valorie> aaron commented out the link to it in the main docs
[00:25] <valorie> but the link is still there
[00:25] <valorie> in the source
[00:25] <sgclark> kk
[00:25]  * valorie has not been very active in writing and editing since the release
[01:03] <sgclark> valorie: sorry, I have looked at the source for all that I can see and not seeing any installation except standalone packages
[01:40] <yottabit> sorry to x-post, but i think the question is more appropriate here
[01:41] <yottabit> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/current/
[01:41] <yottabit> the patch should already be in the .deb files, right?
[02:56] <ScottK> yottabit: You probably want #ubuntu-kernel.
[07:19] <soee> good morning
[07:30] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:43] <jussi> hrm.... interesting... http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html
[07:51] <lordievader> jussi: Wow 45 bytes. That is pretty neat.
[07:57] <jussi> lordievader: yeah, now thats optimisation :D
[08:00] <lordievader> Extreme optimisation.
[08:35] <Peace-> hey guys why installing opencv-dev then i got even this nvidia-319-updates ?
[08:37] <Peace-> i was compiling ffmpeg and i wanted to test libopencv library for compilation but let me understand why it install nvidia stuff ? 
[08:37] <Peace-> then i got this 
[08:37] <Peace-> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.12.0-999-generic is not supported
[08:37] <Peace-> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.12.0-999-generic (x86_64)
[08:37] <Peace-> Consult /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-319-updates/319.60/build/make.log for more information.
[09:05] <Peace-> apachelogger: are you there ?
[09:05] <Peace-> apachelogger: i need to ask you something about phonon 
[10:26] <shadeslayer> Peace-: please ask the X people
[10:27] <shadeslayer> does anyone have a mirror of MoDaX's copyright-helper script?
[10:28] <Riddell> valorie: do you want an account on kubuntu wire?
[10:29] <shadeslayer> Thoughts on naming the libkomparediff2 package? lintian says W: libkomparediff2: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libkomparediff2-4
[10:29] <shadeslayer> if I just use libkomparediff2
[10:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: has the soname changed?
[10:30] <Riddell> or is it a new lib?
[10:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: new lib
[10:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-munich-rejected-steve-ballmer-and-kicked-microsoft-out-of-the-city/
[10:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: libkomparediff2-4 is probably right then, I take it the file is called libkomparediff2.so.4 ?
[10:32] <shadeslayer> yes
[10:32] <shadeslayer> so libkomparediff2-4 is a valid package name?
[10:32] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep
[10:33] <shadeslayer> okay
[10:33] <shadeslayer> and the dev package would be libkomparediff2-4-dev ?
[10:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no need to have the soname in the dev, just libkomparediff2-dev
[10:34] <shadeslayer> I see
[10:35] <apachelogger> Peace-: what's up?
[10:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: "major customizations" also known as KDE :)
[10:36] <shadeslayer> :D
[10:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: want to put that as the first post on kubuntu wire or shall I?
[10:38] <shadeslayer> Go ahead
[10:38] <shadeslayer> what's the URL ?
[10:38] <Riddell> http://wire.kubuntu.org
[10:39] <shadeslayer> cool
[10:40] <shadeslayer> though why do we need something separate from Planet ubuntu
[10:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'll subscribe it to planet ubuntu and planet kde
[10:43] <Riddell> it could be used to post the sort of links valorie pasted last night, reviews of kubuntu etc
[10:43] <Riddell> it might not work, just an experiment
[10:51] <jussi> oooh, someone listened to me!!! :ED
[11:33] <Riddell> sgclark: hi!
[11:38] <Riddell> anyoe taking part in UDS sessions today? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/2013-11-19/
[11:47] <shadeslayer> mmmm bad bad timing
[11:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what is?
[11:48] <shadeslayer> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21986/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu/
[11:48] <shadeslayer> ^^ Dinner time for me
[11:48] <Riddell> ScottK should be able to go to that
[11:48] <shadeslayer> and I'll be super sleepy
[11:48] <Riddell> delay your dinner?
[11:48] <shadeslayer> or pre pone it, sure
[11:49] <shadeslayer> I can attend http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21981/community-1311-quality-defining-workflows/
[11:50] <shadeslayer> nothing else seems to be of particular interest to us today
[11:51] <Peace-> apachelogger:i have modified a little tooltipmanager.cpp on dolphin to make a video audio preview in this way .... https://code.google.com/p/kde-peace-settings/source/browse/somescripts/ffplaykpreview/tooltipmanager.cpp?spec=svn3a23a62550aa7e545fe4ada4a5e1413f1a9a3575&r=3a23a62550aa7e545fe4ada4a5e1413f1a9a3575  listen do you know how to do this stuff with phonon instead ? 
[11:52] <apachelogger> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fperier%2Fphononthumbs.git
[11:53] <Peace-> apachelogger:  but it plays video ?
[11:53] <Peace-> apachelogger: i mean this stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZSnQb3BAeM
[11:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nothing else in UDS seems to be of interest
[11:54] <apachelogger> Peace-: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/phonon/class_phonon_1_1_video_player.html
[11:55] <Peace-> apachelogger: mm i could spend sometime in that page right but if you have time ... :D
[11:56] <apachelogger> time for what? I am not writing the code for you :P
[11:56] <Peace-> apachelogger: anyway tx for the info
[11:56] <Peace-> apachelogger: hahah i knew it :P
[12:00] <Peace-> apachelogger: another thing ... i was compiling ffmpeg and i have done this ....  opencv-dev  it install even this package  nvidia-319-updates  , now i have an ati and you get fucked up because opengl doesn't work then with radeon and if i am not wrong it's nvidia-319-updates  that creates the problem 
[12:00] <Peace-> is that normal ?
[12:00] <apachelogger> maybe
[12:00] <Peace-> i mean that installing libopencv.dev you get nvidia stuff?
[12:01] <apachelogger> I know that the binary blob drivers divert the libopengl to an own implementation
[12:01] <apachelogger> which is not compatible with one another
[12:01] <apachelogger> Peace-: dunno about the installing, seems a bit silly though
[12:03] <Peace-> anyway on configure , ffmpeg you get   --enable-libopencv       enable video filtering via libopencv [no]
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:57] <ScottK> Does anyone know if there's a minimum Qt5 version needed for KF5 stuff we might target this cycle?
[13:19] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[13:23] <shadeslayer> ScottK: 5.2
[13:31] <Peace-> btw this works on kde 4.11.2 OpenDocument Thumbnail plugin
[13:31] <Peace-> isn't the package on kubutnu ?
[13:32] <Peace-> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=110864
[13:33] <ronnoc> Peace-: If not, you could package it :)
[13:33] <Peace-> xD
[13:34] <Peace-> i could yes
[13:34] <Peace-> but i am not an ufficial dev of kubutnu 
[13:35] <ronnoc> Shows available here for current release: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/kde-thumbnailer-openoffice
[13:36] <jussi> Peace-: since when did you need to be an official dev to package stuff?
[13:36] <shadeslayer> ^^
[13:36] <Peace-> ahh
[13:37] <Peace-> jussi: i imaged that you can only package if you are a member of kububuntu team 
[13:37] <jussi> Peace-: no, anything you do will be reviewed by them, but the actual work can be done by anyone. How do you think those people got to be on the team?
[13:38] <Peace-> i dunno really your stuff 
[13:38] <Peace-> i thought that was in that  way 
[13:38]  * Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=63 How Munich Rejected Steve Ballmer and Kicked Microsoft out of the City 
[13:38] <jussi> naice
[13:40] <mamarley> Haha, the KDE 2.x screenshot :)
[13:40] <mamarley> Or is that earlier 3.x?
[13:40]  * mamarley didn't use it back then and therefore doesn't know for sure.
[13:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: added you on https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2013/11/de/Munich
[13:42] <Peace-> :S
[13:42] <Peace-> it seems kde 2 
[13:43] <Peace-> ronnoc: tx man it was there 
[13:45] <shadeslayer> yofel: 4.11.3 seems to have built in ninjas?
[13:45] <jussi> right, Im out. laters all. 
[13:46] <yofel> shadeslayer: right.. raring should be copied. It's not tested but should work fine. Precise had some build failure that I never get to fixing. Could you maybe look at it?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> maybe
[13:46] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy < doesn't look like all the packages?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> maybe it's just me ...
[13:47] <yofel> hm, ninjas doesn't have more though?
[13:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: ftpubuntu@ftpmaster:~/stable/4.11.3/src$ ls -l | wc -l
[13:50] <shadeslayer> 167
[13:51] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy < 56
[13:55] <ronnoc> Peace-: :)
[13:56] <Peace-> it's that has changed name 
[13:56] <Peace-> and so i was not to able to find it xD
[13:57] <Peace-> no it's that i am blind xD
[13:57] <Peace-> apt-cache search thumbnailer | grep -i kde   give the openoffice too 
[13:57] <Peace-> too bad :D
[13:58] <shadeslayer> yofel: so yeah, I think stuff is missing
[14:02] <yofel> shadeslayer: you do know that our scripts have a diff check?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> I am not sure I follow
[14:04] <yofel> if pkg(4.11.2) == pkg(4.11.3) then no update
[14:04] <yofel> so we had 55 differences
[14:05] <shadeslayer> ahhh
[14:05] <shadeslayer> I keep forgetting that :/
[14:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^ Since 4.11.3 is done for saucy, maybe you could do the SRU upload for it?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> libkomparediff2 packaged
[14:39] <soee> 4.12 beta ready ? :)
[14:49] <shadeslayer> IMHO Major work is done, the trivial stuff to do is left http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.80_trusty.html
[15:05] <ovidiu-florin> Can we do something to detect slow computers and alter the System Settings to better suit them?
[15:05] <ovidiu-florin> many people give up on kubuntu because they think it's slow (one their crappy computer)
[15:06] <ovidiu-florin> can I write a script that detects system hardware and alters the KDE settings acordingly?
[15:07] <sgclark> seems to me it should be possible, and good idea. kinda like gnome fallback mode
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know about that
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> but there are a few settings that can be changed to make KDE faster
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> is a python script ok for this?
[15:38] <ovidiu-florin> I say this suspecting that settings are stored in text files
[15:40] <shadeslayer> how do you plan on detecting if a system is slow?
[15:41] <ovidiu-florin> single core CPU and under 2 GB of RAM
[17:04] <shadeslayer> :<
[17:05] <shadeslayer> yofel: care to look at kdepim-runtime? it builds fine in a pbuilder but fails on Launchpad
[17:05] <shadeslayer>  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/akonadi2xml', which is also in package kdepim-runtime 4:4.11.2-0ubuntu2
[17:05] <shadeslayer> my log http://paste.kde.org/p6c3bab39
[17:06] <shadeslayer> uh
[17:06] <shadeslayer> wait
[17:06] <shadeslayer> what
[17:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Ideas on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/5222727
[17:14] <shadeslayer> because I /think/ I've properly Break/Replace'd it
[17:14] <shadeslayer> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs/revision/295
[17:14] <shadeslayer> oh
[17:14] <shadeslayer> ohhhhhhh
[17:14] <shadeslayer> EPOCH!
[17:18] <Riddell> what's epoched?
[17:18] <Riddell> oh you missed the 4: epoch?
[17:18] <shadeslayer> yes
[17:18] <Riddell> that won't work :)
[17:19] <shadeslayer> yeah, I have no clue how I missed that :/
[17:19] <shadeslayer> seem to doing that alot of that lately
[17:19] <shadeslayer> also, fixed in ninjas
[17:23] <Riddell> easily done
[17:39]  * genii makes more coffee and slides shadeslayer a large mug
[17:39] <shadeslayer> mmm coffee
[17:50]  * yofel wonders what's up with his virtuoso db that kills it
[17:51] <yofel> several times a day it gets stuck with 100%CPU and freezes anything that uses nepomuk (i.e. most of kde) until I SIGKILL it :(
[17:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: thoughts on where to put usr/lib/libakonadi-xml.so.4.12.0
[18:00] <yofel> libakonadi-xml4 ?
[18:00] <yofel> if it has an SONAME
[18:00] <shadeslayer> no such package, so have to make a new one
[18:00] <yofel> right
[18:00] <shadeslayer> kdepimlibs is still screwed
[19:30] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: is that a bad way to determine if a computer has low specs?
[19:33] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You might use sysbench for this. Shortbenchmark to measure the performance of the cpu.
[19:37] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: this adds aditional software to the ISO
[19:37] <ovidiu-florin> I proposed a python script because it's light and small
[19:39] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: True. How are you going to determine the low spec?
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> I was thinking of something simple: if the CPU has only one core and it's frequency is below 3 Ghz, the RAM is below 2 GB and the Video board has less than 256 MB RAM.
[19:42] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Sounds simple enough ;)
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> the problem will be what and how to change the default settings
[20:56] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> I notice in the Docs on Testing https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Testing/Kubuntu/Introduction It suggests using Rsync. Is there any reason we are not advising folks to use Testdrive ?
[21:05] <lordievader> Sick_Rimmit: Zsync is usually used to download images. Especially for the alpha/beta/RC iso's, zscync will only download the changed bits of the iso :)
[21:06] <yofel> rsync does the same, just without compression by default
[21:06] <yofel> IMO recommending testdrive makes sense
[21:07] <Sick_Rimmit> lordievader: OK.. just wondering whether it would benefit noobs like me if we presented Testdrive in the Wiki first, perhaps leaving the Rsync stuff as a Other ideas section
[21:17] <Noskcaj> Mind if i merge libqtgtl 0.9.3 from upstream?
[21:33] <Riddell> yo
[21:33] <Riddell> ScottK: what's the gossip?
[21:33] <ScottK> Ubuntu Touch wants Qt 5.2 for trusty and so does KF5, so it's all good.
[21:34] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah want 5.2 but wouldn't be dead if it didn't happen is about right, we want the latest and greatest for KF5
[21:34] <ScottK> Turns out they're after the same, so no worries.
[21:34] <Riddell> ScottK: any other issues?  did you tut about packaging private headers or not sending patches upstream?
[21:34] <ScottK> I'd like to have some kind of patch tracker we share with them so we can keep track of what's upstreamed already and not.
[21:34] <ScottK> Yes.
[21:35] <ScottK> I actually screwed up the TZ math and missed it, but based on what I put in the blueprinted, slangasek did a great job voicing our concerns.
[21:36] <ScottK> Riddell: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21986/core-1311-qt5-versions-in-ubuntu/
[21:36] <ScottK> Back later.
[21:48] <ovidiu-florin> does anyone else have a better idea on how to detect the total video memory? here is my script so far: http://owncloud.geekaliens.com/public.php?service=files&t=d1e83e58d8e63c0fdbdb0f9c1ae0a016
[21:51] <yofel> rather than figuring out what's a "low spec" system - what would you do to reduce the load? We already had kubuntu-low-fat-settings and it was removed because the end result wasn't that great
[21:53] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: first of all System Settings -> Desktop Effects -> Advanced -> Keep window thumbnails -> Never
[21:53] <ovidiu-florin> I saw major speed improvments when doing this
[21:53] <ovidiu-florin> also disable all effects
[21:54] <ovidiu-florin> this is the first thing I do myself
[21:55] <yofel> that can end up being rather ugly - and disabling blur causes redability issues with the default plasma theme
[21:55] <ovidiu-florin> after that, disable nepomuk ( I don't like this, but if it's necessary, I'll do it)
[21:55] <ovidiu-florin> then disable just some effects
[21:55] <yofel> nepomuk does practically nothing on a clean system
[21:56] <yofel> sure, it gets heavy over time, but kde without nepomuk ranges from "no fun" to "pain"
[21:56] <ovidiu-florin> there are also some interesting things here: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Speeding_up_KDE
[21:56] <Blizzz> yofel: i also switched of Nepomuk, it's horrible
[21:56] <Blizzz> +f
[21:57] <yofel> sure, you can turn it off. And I've got issues with it all the time, but without it kmail is plain annoying
[21:57] <ovidiu-florin> I agree
[21:57] <ovidiu-florin> that's why I'd rather not turn it off
[21:58] <Blizzz> yofel: with or without nepomuk, it is horrible too, most unfortunately :-/
[21:58] <yofel> well, it's usable, kinda
[21:58] <Blizzz> no, it's not
[21:58] <Blizzz> i really tried
[21:58] <Blizzz> really really tried
[22:02] <Blizzz> folder contents are incomplete,  takes  ages to load, calendar and contacts (caldav and carddav) disappearing all the time, nepomuk feeder goes nuts 
[22:02] <Blizzz> without all this, my battery life time is doubled!
[22:03] <Blizzz> oh, when the calendar is there half of the time you cannot edit it
[22:03] <Blizzz> that's far from usable
[22:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: thank you
[22:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: you're welcome.  what for?
[22:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: adding me to the wiki
[22:43] <Riddell> oh cool, do double check I got the details right
[22:44] <apachelogger> I totally followed your details :P
[22:44] <apachelogger> going to arrive friday, leaving sunday evening :P
[22:44] <Riddell> yay, dr who nerd out on saturday!
[22:45] <apachelogger> #savetheday
[22:48] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what?
[22:48] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: dr who 50th anniversary on saturday evening!
[22:48] <Riddell> it's going to be awesome!
[22:48] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: was the qt uds thing yet?
[22:48] <sgclark> agreed
[22:48] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I'm guessing that's a show/movie
[22:48] <apachelogger> :O
[22:50]  * ovidiu-florin hasn't googled that yet
[22:50] <apachelogger> somehow I am behind on every todo list I have in every project I work on
[22:51] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it's only the most popular and awesome tv show ever!
[22:51] <apachelogger> *EVER*
[22:51] <ovidiu-florin> I know what Dr. Who is
[22:51] <ovidiu-florin> but I don't know about the aniversary
[22:51] <ovidiu-florin> what's going to happen then
[22:52] <Riddell> there will be a forgotten War Doctor!
[22:52]  * sgclark agrees
[22:52] <Riddell> sgclark!
[22:52] <apachelogger> *FORGOTTEN*
[22:52] <apachelogger> ^ surprising it doesn't happen more often what with time travael and everything
[22:52] <maco> ovidiu-florin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo here, this takes place after the 1996 movie and is the prequel to the anniversary special
[22:52] <maco> it takes place during the Time War
[22:53] <apachelogger> *TIME WAR*
[23:00] <ovidiu-florin> what did I just watch?
[23:00] <apachelogger> What is porn?
[23:01] <maco> if what i linked, then you watched Paul McGann, the 8th Doctor from the 1996 movie, regenerate into the Doctor from the Time War, aka the War Doctor
[23:01] <ahoneybun> Riddell, I got tickets for it on the 25th in 3D
[23:01] <maco> Riddell: i thought it was sunday evening
[23:04] <Riddell> ahoneybun: awesome, take some device to follow the buzz in here while you're there :)
[23:04] <ahoneybun> lol
[23:04] <apachelogger> ahoneybun: bad move, you better avoid all the internetz until then :P
[23:05] <ahoneybun> of course I'll have my HTC One
[23:05] <apachelogger> it's hard enough to not get spoilered if you watch a regular episode one day after it aired
[23:05] <Riddell> maco: sat 23rd! you mean you havn't got your cinema ticket yet?
[23:10] <ovidiu-florin> how do I update the changelog?
[23:11] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: dch
[23:11] <ovidiu-florin> what?
[23:11] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: ^
[23:11] <yofel> run 'dch'
[23:11] <yofel> short for 'debchange', easy tool for editing debian/changelog
[23:12] <maco> Riddell: here most of the cinemas are doing it monday the 25th, with a few doing it sunday the 24th, and it's on the tv on the 24th
[23:13] <Riddell> maco: it should be simaltanious! that's the whole awesomeness of it
[23:14] <Riddell> look at all these cinemas http://www.doctorwho.tv/watch-the-day-of-the-doctor/
[23:14] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: and what do I write in it, I don't understand the syntax
[23:15] <ovidiu-florin> I see the first term has to define what I did
[23:15] <Riddell> sgclark: so you want to help out Kubuntu?
[23:15] <ovidiu-florin> I deleted a line from debian/knavalbattle.install
[23:16] <yofel> then either write 'update knavalbattle.install', or better something like '* Remove old icon file from knavalbattle.install'
[23:16] <ovidiu-florin> aham
[23:16] <yofel> or whatever it was you removed
[23:16] <yofel> just so someone else knows what you did
[23:17] <sgclark> riddell: yes that is the plan
[23:17] <Riddell> sgclark: great, welcome in
[23:17] <sgclark> riddell: thanks!
[23:18] <Riddell> sgclark: there's plenty of tasks that need help, like improving or completing our docs or moving the docs to a wiki with translation support (what does KDE use?) or updating stuff like the feature tour on the website or stuff like packaging or bug squishing
[23:18] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: for the complete syntax definition see http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-dpkgchangelog
[23:19] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: although dch does a lot of the metadata editing (like timestamp udpates, name and email, etc.)
[23:20] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: I would recommend looking over the full policy eventually as it explains a lot about how the debian/ folder works
[23:21] <sgclark> riddell: starting with docs / ultimate goal is to learn bug squishing
[23:22] <sgclark> riddell: media wiki I believe (for kde)
[23:22] <Riddell> sgclark: do you do kde docs in a wiki or in docbook?
[23:23] <sgclark> riddell: docbook
[23:23] <sgclark> riddell: I am planning on transferring that work to the wiki
[23:24] <sgclark> riddell: then link kubuntu docs to that work where appropriate
[23:24] <Riddell> sgclark: and the wiki has built in translation support?
[23:24] <sgclark> riddell: theirs does yes
[23:25] <Riddell> sgclark: and presumably it also has built in docbook export?
[23:25] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1071453] Dolphin doesn't store samba share password @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1071453 (by Pascal Korz)
[23:25] <sgclark> riddell: no someone made a script. I have not tried it yet though
[23:26] <sgclark> riddell depending if my workload gets to high I will certainly be trying it haha
[23:28] <Riddell> sgclark: do you recon you could look at moving the Kubuntu docs onto the KDE wiki and getting it translated and exported to docbook for us?  (feel free to say no we just need someone to do it and you sound like a good candidate)
[23:29] <sgclark> riddell, I am thinking I can give it a shot in a sandbox type environment
[23:31] <Riddell> that would be a good start
[23:31] <Riddell> I can't imagine it's too hard if KDE has it all set up we just piggy back on their setup
[23:32] <sgclark> yeah, if it works the way I think it does, I have done all my work in docbook so I am not a wiki expert at all
[23:33] <sgclark> I am a very fast learner though, so that is not an issue, just the translation mechanics I am unsure of
[23:38] <sgclark> ahh well ok, no humans do the translations
[23:39] <sgclark> *corrects wording* humans translate the pages
[23:42] <Riddell> yes of course
[23:42] <Riddell> machine translations are rubbish
[23:42] <Riddell> but extracting the paragraphs and sending them to translators and taking them back is hard
[23:44] <sgclark> Let me see if I can get an answer from kde folks.
[23:45] <sgclark> I will get back to you. but it seems like it should be able to be done
[23:48] <Riddell> sgclark: lovely :)
[23:56] <sgclark> no response, will keep trying and get with you when I have an answer
[23:56] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: here are the instructions I've gotten from shadeslayer and you http://owncloud.geekaliens.com/public.php?service=files&t=a7d3f89f5671ff609bead449a79876c2 . I don't understand, after I've runned pdebuild did the package install ?
[23:56] <ovidiu-florin> or did it just build?
[23:58] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: pdebuild (line 50)
[23:59] <yofel> it only builds and puts the debs in the result folder
[23:59] <ovidiu-florin> on the host?
[23:59] <yofel> right