[00:18] hi all [00:18] I'm having trouble fetching mail from Yahoo with fetchmail; I keep getting "connection refused". [00:19] IMAP, port 993, SSL on [00:19] enabled. [00:29] anyone having trouble with screensavers in kubuntu 13.10? [00:29] wat [00:29] I am, a bit [00:29] mtenen, what do you mean? what kind of trouble? [00:29] what's up, mtenen? [00:30] my trouble is that asquiaquarium loads up four copies of itself every time I reboot [00:30] when i resume from sleep mode, there are sometimes 3 small windows of my screensaver running on the desktop [00:30] I don't do it often, so it isn't a big deal [00:30] but weird [00:30] ah, so same thing happening [00:31] I haven't filed a bug about it though [00:31] have you, mtenen? [00:31] no, because i think (we) can fix it [00:32] and why is it asciaquarium for us both? [00:33] ah, you use it too [00:33] <3 asquiaquarium [00:33] yeah, i don't know if any of the other screensavers do that. [00:33] I know it happened after upgrade to 13.10 [00:34] but not sure if right then, or a later update [00:34] maybe... try the raring version? [00:34] I rarely reboot [00:34] idk... [00:34] you don't have to reboot, it happens when you wake up from sleep mode too. [00:34] it would be more logical if one of us tried a different screensaver [00:34] i am trying clock right now [00:34] I don't put it to sleep [00:34] k [00:34] sec [00:35] try apt-get purge screensaver* and then apt-get -f install apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get install screensaver* --install-suggests [00:38] i will try that MangaKaDenza, thanks. === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake === c_smith_away is now known as c_smith [01:39] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/current/ [01:39] the patch should already be in the .deb files, right? === travis is now known as Guest47706 === Guest47706 is now known as Duel-Travis [01:51] msg NickServ identify wtf [01:51] how do Login with my registered name? [01:52] /msg NickServ identify f8tbikeco [01:54] genii, Hey :) [01:54] * genii makes more coffee [01:54] how did u do that [01:56] * MangaKaDenza makes a genii [01:57] Well, I ground up the beans, then I brought the waqter to just under boiling point. Then I put the grounds in the french press, added the water, let it ssoak for about 60 seconds, then pressed the plunger down carefully. [01:59] Duel-Travis: To answer your previous question .. I ground up the beans, then I brought the water to just under boiling point. Then I put the grounds in the french press, added the water, let it ssoak for about 60 seconds, then pressed the plunger down carefully. [02:00] genii, mmmm === Duel-Travis is now known as DuelBoot [02:00] genii, New name === goodtime_ is now known as goodtime [03:40] kde keeps defaulting to hdmi audio output. it keeps my analog stereo duplex selection but the 'sound device' returns to HDMI on reboot [05:06] i'm trying to either permanently disable HDMI audio out or at least get kmix to give it last priority. I'm using Kubuntu 13.10, any ideas? [05:13] James0r: in systemsettings [05:13] systemsettings: Hardware > Multimedia [05:13] valorie: phonon? [05:14] James0r: pavucontrol [05:14] valorie: yeah i found the options to change devices and what not, problem is it keeps prefering HDMI on reboot [05:14] did you click the save button? [05:14] well, Apply and then OK [05:15] pavucontrol is great, but afair it doesn't have you set the default [05:16] valorie: yeah. but i think it's making HDMI preferred because it recognizes it after, maybe also something about changing irq or something? anyway i just change the /etc/pulse/default.pa not to switch on HDMI connect so i'll restart and check it [05:17] it seems to me that there is a general problem with getting systemsettings to properly save state [05:17] for hardware, at least [05:17] I keep hearing complaints both here and in #kde [05:19] valorie: I don't think I've really had problems except for this bug where I get a CRTC error if I have both my HDMI and my VGA hooked up when I boot cause the LCD is on too and for some reason the three monitors causes the problem [05:20] does anyone know how to set the pairing passkey? my phone found my machine but i have no way to know what the passkey is [05:20] i'm using standard KDE bluetooth utils [05:20] nice that did the trick! [05:23] now just gotta figure out why kubuntu hangs on logout/restart [06:16] James0r: dmesg may help === c_smith is now known as c_smith_away === gilbert_ is now known as goodtime [07:29] can someone help me with using dmesg to figure out a hanging issue after logout [07:30] Good morning. [07:35] lordievader: good evening [07:36] James0r: you should probably post your dmesg output to pastebin and indicate what you believe to be the problem [07:37] wafflejock: actually using dmesg is where i'm stuck. how can i use it to log what's going on when i attempt to logout and log back in? [07:37] Hey wafflejock, how are you? [07:37] lordievader: good getting a bit tired, but good thx === mint is now known as Guest51752 [07:43] James0r: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9533708/how-to-read-ring-buffer-within-linux-kernel-space not sure exactly this infor may help though [07:46] James0r: /var/log/syslog [07:49] wafflejock: thx i'll check it [07:51] James0r: np [07:51] wafflejock: there a way to see where i last logged out? [07:58] wafflejock: http://pastebin.com/CTVBvXkf [07:59] i'm not seeing anything that jumps out [08:03] James0r: not sure like you said nothing really standing out... also not sure about any extra options to see exactly when it is you logged out aside from trying to match up timestamps [08:20] wafflejock: yeah maybe i should logout again and mark the time [08:34] Hello, I am going through nightmares trying to customize the ubuntu installer [08:36] Hey nafg__, What is it that you want to customize? [08:38] Hi lordievader [08:38] The issue i'm stuck on at the moment is the post install script. It's a ubiquity based ISO (testing it in VirtualBox atm), and it's not running it [08:39] nafg__: A modified iso? Does the normal iso run correctly? [08:39] In the preseed i have [08:39] ubiquity ubiquity/success_command string /cdrom/postinstall.sh [08:40] It's not very modified. It runs "correctly," except for this modification for instance [08:41] nafg__: But does the normal (unmodified) iso install correctly? [08:41] Where would I see output from it? Is it logged somewhere [08:41] Yes, it does, I just said that. [08:41] it installs even modified. [08:41] it just doesn't get my customization [08:43] nafg__: Ah, I'm starting to understand. You want an install that is modified to your taste from the first boot? [08:43] wdym by 'first boot'? [08:44] I want a script to run after it's installed [08:44] nafg__: The first time you boot your freshly installed os. Or am I on the wrong track? [08:44] lordievader: that would be fine, i guess that 's the ultimate goal [08:44] but it's not what I'm saying [08:45] Are you familiar with presseeding? [08:45] preseeding [08:45] nafg__: No, I'm not. Sorry. [08:45] do you have some suggestion in mind? [08:46] nafg__: I'd make a customization script. Install the os like normal. Copy the script, run it and reboot. [08:47] lordievader: the problem is we need this to happen on a large number of machines, so that would total a lot of work [08:47] Also the machine would ideally not have an ordinary log in [08:48] ideally not need ... [08:48] Was afraid you would say that. [08:48] nafg__: Have you read this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization#Modify_installer_behaviour_using_a_Preseed_file [08:49] yes [08:50] although they describe the alternate installer, and there don't seem to be any alternate desktop downloads for saucy atm [08:50] nafg__: Well you could go and ask around in #ubuntu, perhaps the folk there knows. [08:50] i did [09:18] i found a line in my system log that looks to be the culprit. not sure what to do with it though. it's : Nov 19 15:21:13 james-X45C kernel: [ 2219.886699] tty_ldisc_hangup_halt: waiting (Xorg) for tty7 took too long, but we keep waiting... [09:22] OKAY lordievader thank G-d it's working! I had to change the line to bash scriptname rather than just scriptname (perhaps due to lack of +x mode) [09:24] nafg__: Good to hear that you succeeded :) [09:42] hi all anybody knows a good dvd designer? (not cover, the disc itself) [09:47] *labeler [10:20] hello world [10:20] how do I search for a specific font? I want a few specific fonts, how do I find the package that has them? [10:21] ovidiu-florin: Apt-file? [10:21] :D [10:22] I've tried aptitude search [10:22] wake up... [10:28] ovidiu-florin: With apt-file you can search for files, it will tell you from what package they come. [10:28] thank you [10:28] I think I've found it [10:38] I can't find th e font Linux Libertine Mono === pesa is now known as Guest52777 [12:26] Hey all === peter is now known as Guest95681 === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [13:13] akonadi keeps messing up and I get this error: http://pastebin.kde.org/phcyl1tug#line-8 how can I resolve this? === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [13:19] Good afternoon. [13:20] howdy [13:20] Hey James0r, how are you? [13:21] end of the day, put the kid to bed and have a beer in my hand, so pretty good. [13:21] how bout you? [13:22] James0r: Doing pretty good :) [13:22] anyone have issues with the muon update manager? either takes forever to find updates or never finishes looking [13:25] suggests using apt-get in the terminal, James0r , it's more stable , thsy both use the dpkg system anyway , but without the muon GUI it's a direct command [13:25] BluesKaj: does apt-get update do the same thing? i always thought apt-get update just updated the list of packages available on the repos [13:27] yes , it does the same thing , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade , or you can separate those 2 commands to see what is about to be installed/upgraded , James0r [13:30] Better to use "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade" that way the apt-get upgrade command will only be run when apt-get update has succesfully completed. [13:32] lordievader. never had a problem with the command i posted [13:33] lordievader: yeah i knew about && but hadn't seen the semi-colon before, BluesKaj , interesting to know that there is another way to concatenate (if that's the word) the commands together [13:34] so the semi-colon will run them symultaneously ? [13:34] James0r: No, that says run this command next. Doesn't matter if the first completed succesfully or not. [13:35] lordievader: by that you mean the semi-colon? [13:36] you guys have any idea what this is referring too? tty_ldisc_hangup_halt: waiting (Xorg) for tty7 took too long, but we keep waiting... [13:36] it's in my system log where i get a hang up on logout. [13:36] James0r: Yes. The semicolon doesn't care about the previous command && does. [13:36] annoying the crap out of me that i can use the logout feature without hanging on a black screen [13:36] lordievader: gotcha. [13:37] James0r: Display driver that is not responding? [13:38] ok lordievader , good to know about the ; not waiting for the update to complete , however i've never run into a problem withit , altho i have to admit i don't use the 2 commands in a string very often [13:39] yeah? i have integrated intel adapter. never had issues before yesterday. been using Linux Mint KDE and others without issues. [13:39] lordievader: there way to check if i have the best driver for my adapter? [13:39] BluesKaj: It waits for it to complete, but if there are errors apt-get upgrade will still be executed. With && apt-get upgrade will not be executed if apt-get update errors. [13:40] with intel graphics it's pretty cut and dried , James0r , there aren't many driver options [13:40] James0r: pastebin the output of: lspci -k |grep -A 2 VGA [13:41] ok lordievader , thanks [13:42] lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/patf5s1hs [13:43] BluesKaj: yeah that's what i've heard [13:43] Usually Intel things work fine, but I've seen cases where the driver didn't load for some reason. [13:44] James0r: But in your case the correct driver seems to be loaded. [13:44] lordievader: okay. thats one thing to check off [13:45] the day before this hangup happened i installed the package to get size and orientation to manipulate my dual monitors [13:45] sorta doubting that had much to do with this though [13:45] can't think of anything else i did graphics/monitors wise [13:47] James0r. seems I saw a similar complaint yesterday , does, sudo halt , in the trerminal work ? [13:51] BluesKaj: it seemed to suspend and then leave me with the Kubuntu boot up screen [13:51] i imagine that command should completely shut you down? [13:53] yes , halt= shutdown [13:54] Don't forget the -p flag. [13:55] i'm getting a lot of "Nov 19 20:51:16 james-X45C NetworkManager[998]: nl_recvmsgs() error: (-33) Dump inconsistency detected, interrupted" [13:55] in my system log [13:56] gonna try to logout again and check the log [13:56] ok bbl , gotta check my backup OS and reboot due to new kernel install [14:02] yeah this looks to be defintely the culprit Nov 19 20:56:37 james-X45C kernel: [ 418.370768] tty_ldisc_hangup_halt: waiting (Xorg) for tty7 took too long, but we keep waiting... === Vito__ is now known as Vito === angel is now known as Guest38471 === riku is now known as Guest29110 [15:41] hi [15:42] Hey Izan [15:42] some help for level01 ? [15:42] please? [15:42] Izan: Level01? Could you describe your problem in a bit more detail? [15:43] Izan: Best to just say your issue to the channel and then someone may be able to assist [15:46] Also usefull to remain in channel... === LordOfTime is now known as TheLordOfTime [15:53] !netsplit [15:53] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [15:55] * genii jiggles the internets [16:10] * mastermentor grins [16:12] google [16:12] Hm. [16:24] hi, I try to install kubuntu from usb stick to a small partition. It says "X has at least 5.8 gb"… and the "Continue" button is disabled. How can I install kubuntu on a small disk? I only need a few packages (basic kde) [16:27] jtheuer. you probly need at least 15G for proper installl, , that will leave about 8-9G for other data , an you'll have to run autoremove and auto clean every week or so if you update/upgrade weekly [16:27] !debootstrap [16:27] debootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for more information [16:29] jtheuer: Even for an absolute minimal install of Kubuntu you're looking at around 4 to 6G partition size [16:29] BluesKaj, The live system only needs 680GB I'm sure I don't need more…. [16:29] mb [16:30] jtheuer. live system yes , but a permanent install is different [16:30] to the hdd or ssd media [16:31] Actually the live system is more like 1G [16:35] <[Raiden]> BluesKaj: try to find miniiso and install without gui ( see f-keys on boot menu). Then install kde... [16:35] how do you take a picture with a built in camera [16:36] gassho: Use something like cheese or vlc [16:37] [Raiden]. it's not me that wants the minimal install , it's jtheuer [16:38] thanks, I'll try [16:38] <[Raiden]> ok ) [16:56] What I'm doing → http://susepaste.org/91071708 What the computer is doing → http://susepaste.org/59194011 [16:56] Can you tell me, please, what I have to do to understand why is that happening? [16:58] Taduro: You may want to look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ [17:02] Pici: thanks for that hyperlink but... My computer is working slow, really. That's why I checked the ram. [17:03] Pici: http://paste.kde.org/pd87bda50 === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [17:12] it's showing you have 720MB available for use [17:23] tsimpson: I have 2GB [17:24] Pici: [17:24] Taduro__: yes, I mean available, as in ready, for use by applications. ie free [17:25] tsimpson: But look what I'm doing → http://susepaste.org/91071708 [17:25] 2GB and I can only use 700MB(?) [17:25] Memòria means memory [17:26] xD [17:26] (pretty the same) === odin is now known as Guest25257 [17:47] Soo.. :/ [17:50] Taduro: This laptop has 2Gb as well, currently 105Mb is free and 774Mb is free but used for cache/buffer. [18:01] i'm back [18:01] I missed something? [18:01] Taduro___: Have you seen my message? [18:04] lordievader: No :/ [18:07] Taduro: This laptop has 2Gb as well, currently 105Mb is free and 774Mb is free but used for cache/buffer. [18:14] lordievader: It's a litle harder to accept that but... well.. [18:15] Taduro_: Just to show that your figure is not unlikely. KDE is quite resource hungry. [18:32] lordievader: And is there a way to get KDE eating less machine? [18:38] Taduro__: Not sure if the low-fat package still exists: http://shaforostoff.blogspot.nl/2012/04/making-kubuntu-use-less-memory.html === rysiekpl is now known as rysiek|pl [19:00] so, I now have a minimal kde (netinstall + kdm + kwin) what package do I need to login and have "a window manager and K menu"? (I only have failsafe right now and a "default" session that is just black) [19:15] jtheuer, why didn't you just do the standard install from the live cd? [19:20] hi guys, i have problem instaling the php5-gd [19:21] php5-gd requier php5-common (= 5.5.3+dfsg-1ubuntu2) but 5.5.4+dfsg-1+debphp.org~raring+1 was installed [19:22] !info php5-common raring [19:22] php5-common (source: php5): Common files for packages built from the php5 source. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.3 (raring), package size 419 kB, installed size 951 kB [19:23] Cawa: Did you install a ppa for php? [19:23] !info php5-gd raring [19:23] php5-gd (source: php5): GD module for php5. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.3 (raring), package size 33 kB, installed size 132 kB [19:26] lordievader: yes [19:28] lordievader: # deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5/ubuntu raring main [19:28] Cawa: There you go, your ppa is conflicting with the ubuntu repos. Apts solution: not to install. [19:28] рьь [19:28] hmm [19:29] so i can't install GD? [19:29] oh dear [19:29] I installed Ubuntustudio out of curiosity... and now... [19:29] my system fonts are screwed up [19:30] so, what do I do? [19:30] theres a pakage php5-gd -5.5.4+dfsg-1+debphp.org~precise+1 [19:32] lemme try something [19:32] Cawa: You can, but you have to revert back to the repo. [19:32] the php repo? [19:33] Cawa: Sorry, you have to revert back to the default Ubuntu repos. [19:34] ohh i see [19:35] GAH [19:35] these fonts are still here [19:35] and I checked system settings [19:35] all of the fonts save monospace, are set to Segoe UI [19:37] can anybody help? [19:37] cuz I don't want to reinstall... again [19:38] How to fix the black text on brown background in gtk apps? http://itmag.es/4it01 === pesa is now known as Guest81310 === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [19:55] why keyboard doesnt save itsself? [19:55] i h [19:55] i have to type setxkbmap fi [19:56] jarkko: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration [19:57] thanks will try that a bit later [19:57] is it known issue or just me? [19:57] kubuntu 13.10 [19:58] the keymap that you choose on install should stay [19:58] i have had that issue before too on kubuntu [19:58] dont know why [19:58] i made the reconfigure [19:58] it asks quite much questions [19:58] I don't know, I just use a qwerty usa layout [19:59] it doesnt ask so much on install [19:59] i used defaults [19:59] how did you remember that setting? [20:03] I am not sure, I only use qwerty [20:29] First time I turned on my laptop in 2 weeks. Audio does not seem to be working now. Is there a way to reinstall something to have it work again? [20:29] Good Evening! [20:29] Not sure if it died after I did the Kubuntu upgrade [20:33] Solved: unbelievable... "pulseaudio -k" seemed to have worked, although I'm not sure why yet [21:08] Anyone who can tell me how to speed up boot time on Kubuntu? [21:09] JohnDoe_DK: do you have multicore cpu? [21:10] yup crowell [21:10] whoops, what I was remembering is apparently obsolete :| [21:10] Ok. No hard feelings ;) [21:11] e4rat might be what you're looking for though [21:11] JohnDoe_DK: You can add one-time option of: profile ...to the boot line and it will optimize any old sysvinit scripts and some other small tweaks. [21:11] ( for subsequent boots) [21:13] genii: come again?? [21:14] crowell: is it in the repo's? [21:14] JohnDoe_DK: When grub menu comes up, just before booting. You edit the line which loads the operating system, adding to the end the word: profile and then boot with that option one time. It optimizes as I said , the old startup scripts in /etc/init.d directory, plus some other small stuff. [21:15] Generally see 7-10% boot time decrease [21:15] genii: Okay, just the word "profile" and then boot? [21:15] genii: I don't think it is in the repos [21:15] JohnDoe_DK: ^^ [21:16] it also is only useful if you have an HDD, _NOT_ as SSD [21:16] JohnDoe_DK: Just the word "profile" yes. [21:17] genii: Ill try that. crowell: I dont have SSD. Its an eee pc [21:17] genii: then you can check it here http://rafalcieslak.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/e4rat-decreasing-bootup-time-on-hdd-drives/ [21:17] the arch wiki gives better information [21:18] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/e4rat [21:18] but much of that is not relevant to a ubuntu install [21:21] hi [21:21] anyone here [21:21] Okay. I'll try e4rat. [21:24] please provide me information about installing amd/intel hybird graphic driver in ubuntu 12.4.3 lts? [21:24] Just one more question: Would it be a good thing to boot up with the profile option before using e4rat? [21:25] probably a good idea to see bootgraph or whatever it is called [21:25] bootchart [21:25] that's it [21:27] bootchart??? [21:27] Yes. [21:29] what is bootchart? [21:29] sorry for being noobish :O [21:30] !bootchart [21:30] bootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee [22:46] https://phpacademy.org/topics/select-button-that-should-add-category/31205?page=1#last [22:46] this class of organism is defined by having a cell nucleus bounded by a membrane.. [22:46] wazzup kubunties