[08:33] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I do
[08:33] <sabgenton> hows it faring?
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, Good so far, no real problems, I have a intel graphic set up though.
[08:34] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: on a usability scale
[08:34] <sabgenton> ok
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I use it daily, but it is one of 3 linux OS on the HD.
[08:35] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: cool I'll wack it into a VM
[08:35] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: what your other two?
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, Probably the best place.
[08:36] <sabgenton> heh
[08:36] <sabgenton> if it works well enough I'll use it as a vm webserver till it goes gold
[08:37] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: what are your other two distros if i can ask?
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, Install it and make a copy of the image, I use vbox and a vdi, then you have a backup.
[08:37] <sabgenton> why make a copy I will run it off the iso
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, All ubuntu 12.04 and 13.10, I used to run the other distros but don't really bother now.
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I have it installed.
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> and reboot all daily
[08:38] <sabgenton> hehe
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> update/upgrades is all
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> I have w8.1 on there to, for word only really
[08:39] <sabgenton> does apt-get upgrade work ok with  dailys?
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I would not on a iso
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> you can but kernel upgrades are not really suggested is all
[08:40] <sabgenton> no sorry mean I would install of the iso
[08:40] <sabgenton> sorry said that wrong
[08:40] <sabgenton> install to vm
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, I upgrade the installs every day, I have them all cloned, especially the development, I would rather reload that 10 min compared to a install and re-figure about 45 min.
[08:41] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: I'm more asking can you just apt-get upgrade it rather than downloading another daily and another and so on
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> sabgenton, Ah, oh yes.
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> all the way to release
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> The general rhetoric on the development is don;t have it as you main install is all.
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> s/don't/your
[08:52] <sabgenton> wilee-nilee: well thanks anyway the fact your runing it without the need to tell me it crashes every two minutes is good enough for my needs
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> hehe, so good so far sabgenton
[08:54] <sabgenton> :)
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[18:29] <lfaraone> Does anybody have experience running VMWare Workstation on Trusty?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> lfaraone, This is a development only what maybe a month old I doubt it, in general you state the issue for help anyway
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> to the channel not me
[18:43] <lfaraone> wilee-nilee: "will it work?", basically.
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> lfaraone, vbox should vmware, never used it myself
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> YOu may have to tell us ;)
[18:58] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: and you'll see me in here as well :)
[19:00] <sergiobenrocha2> ok, thanks!
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> yo ho ho elfy
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:01] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: so basically - if you go to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/308/builds and drill down to Xubuntu - that WILL be 14.04 xubuntu
[19:01] <elfy> I've been using it for a couple of weeks now
[19:01] <elfy> hi wilee-nilee
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> elfy, Hi, never sen that site for de on the development, cool
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> seen*
[19:02] <sergiobenrocha2> elfy: great
[19:03] <elfy> wilee-nilee: really? you seen the packages one? http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/306/builds
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> elfy, I have just grabbed the daily.
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu, but I use the shell in general
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> more than just de I see now
[19:05] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: and to hear what's going on and when I'm shouting for people to test things - join this mailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> dran close button
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> darn
[19:05] <sergiobenrocha2> ok
[19:08] <sergiobenrocha2> elfy: i subscribed, thanks
[19:11] <sergiobenrocha2> I think xubuntu is great, mainly (for me) for games, but there is something that could be improved... if 13.10 get more polished, it could be a good LTS
[19:13] <sergiobenrocha2> like sound indicator plugin in top panel... it does not work, there is a workaround to this, but no update yet here...
[19:39] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: that 'might' get backported, but 14.04 should be getting gtk3 indicators
[19:45] <sergiobenrocha2> so 14.04 will use xfce 4.12? because it plans to use gtk3 things
[19:46] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/
[19:52] <sergiobenrocha2> elfy: ok, is possible that I create an wishlist in launchpad, and appears in this page, if the feature is good?
[19:52] <elfy> mmm - not sure what you mean
[19:56] <genii> sergiobenrocha2: If your feature request gets implemented, you'll know about it because launchpad emails you when a bug is added to or changed, or fixed, etcand noted in the report you originally made.
[20:00] <sergiobenrocha2> like create a new launcher in xfce panel, I right-click, then "Add new item" in context menu, then "Add new item" window appears, I click in Launcher, and then is created an empty launcher icon. But this could be more friendly if  "Properties" window opens after those things I did, for the user add an app launcher in the empty icon. I don't know if this is upstream
[20:01] <elfy> do you? I drag from the menu to the panel and say yes :)
[20:02] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: the best place to talk about these specific Xubuntu issues is actually in our channel #xubuntu-devel
[20:02] <sergiobenrocha2> oh, ok
[20:02] <elfy> and check out http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[20:03] <elfy> sergiobenrocha2: sorry - for moving you about channels - but as the chat moved on it become more apparent what you needed to be talking about
[20:03] <sergiobenrocha2> no problems, better for me
[20:04] <sergiobenrocha2> so this ubuntu+1 is for core packages, for example? things in common with all ubuntu derivates?
[20:06] <knome> hello elfy!
[20:06] <elfy> :p