[00:23] <Elleo> szymon_w: .click packages are handled differently to debian packages, they don't use debian control files; this page has some details on both the apparmor manifest.json and the click json metadata: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement/Manifest
[00:24] <Elleo> not sure if there's a better tutorial around anywhere
[00:24] <Elleo> looking at some existing apps click packaging might be a good way to get an idea of how they work too
[00:25] <Elleo> it's much simpler than debian packaging, although not as widely documented yet; and has the least googleable name in the world ;)
[00:27] <szymon_w> Elleo, thank you. I just managed to upload my first new branch to launchpad ;) ( it might be funny for you guys here but it new experience for me )
[00:27] <Elleo> :)
[02:12] <rottinrob> evening y'all
[09:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: good morning. let me know when you want to have a look at that browser file picker problem
[09:38] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, hey, mind if we do that in ~1h? I’d like to finish what I’m currently doing
[09:38] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: no problem. ping me when you have time
[09:38] <oSoMoN> ok
[09:47] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Have a Bad Day Day! :-/
[10:40] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, ping
[10:42] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: hey
[10:42] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, so, what’s up with the filepicker?
[10:42] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: simply on desktop it shows whatever component i assign to it, on device it does nothing
[10:43] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, have you verified that the component is actually being instantiated on the device?
[10:43] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: it's not, whatever i put on Component.onCompleted doesn't happen
[10:44] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, do you have your code in a branch handy?
[10:45] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: let me prepare that
[10:47] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, btw, when you have a moment, please give a second look at https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/always-use-local-server-in-tests/+merge/194377
[10:48] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: lp:~amanzi-team/webbrowser-app/webbrowser-app-file-upload
[10:48] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, testing
[10:59] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, works here, I’m briefly seeing your custom component, then the content picker is brought to the front
[11:06] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, that's weird. I just see a flash and then nothing appears
[11:06] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and i'm left with the browser page
[11:07] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: how do you put it on the device ?
[11:07] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: maybe i'm doing something wrong there by just upoading these two QML files to their respective directories
[11:08] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I pushed the new file (the filePicker component) to the device, and I edited manually /usr/share/webbrowser-app/Browser.qml to add the reference to it
[11:09] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, here is the output I’m getting when I run it on the device: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6442245/
[11:09] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: Browser.qml ? I didn't modify that file, just WebViewImpl.qml
[11:10] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, trunk ≠ released version…
[11:10] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, there was some refactoring in the trunk that hasn’t been released yet
[11:11] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, if you want to base your work and tests on trunk, then you need to build packages from your branch, push them to the device, and install them
[11:12] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok that makes sense. thanks for the pointer
[14:39] <Kaleo> balloons, do you know how to import songs in the music app?
[14:39] <Kaleo> balloons, .. on the desktop?
[14:40] <seb128> Kaleo, copy stuff in ~/Music maybe (random guessing work)
[14:40] <popey> Kaleo: drag files over from desktop over usb
[14:40] <popey> yes, thats right seb128
[14:40] <Kaleo> popey, so I have stuff in ~/Music
[14:40] <Kaleo> popey, on my desktop, and launching the app on the desktop shows nothing
[14:40] <popey> mediascanner should scan that location and find it
[14:40] <popey> oh, i never run it on desktop
[14:40] <popey> you probably are missing mediascanner
[14:41] <Kaleo> popey, indeed
[14:42] <Kaleo> raaah
[14:42] <Kaleo> it's scanning EVERYTHING
[14:42] <Kaleo> ~/Pictures ~/Downloads
[14:43] <Kaleo> wtf
[14:43] <ogra_> how else should it report to the NSA ... it first needs to know if there is valuable data
[14:43] <ogra_> :P
[14:43] <Kaleo> where is the db?
[14:53] <t1mp> ogra_: be careful... you might get quoted on that ;)
[14:53] <ogra_> t1mp, well i'm slowly getting used to it ... let them come :)
[14:53] <t1mp> yes I saw :)
[14:54] <t1mp> "Canonical developer states all your media is scanned and sent to NSA"
[14:55] <ogra_> :D
[15:27] <Elleo> ogra_: you've just added further evidence to my theory that Canonical has a secret anti-raisin agenda
[15:27] <ogra_> lol
[15:28] <ogra_> sshh ... thats not supposed to go to the public ... its secret cabbale
[15:28] <Elleo> heh
[15:29] <t1mp> ogra_: I hate raisins too
[15:29]  * ogra_ hugs t1mp 
[15:29] <t1mp> it really sucks if I get food that looks really nice, and I expect it to taste nice... and then I discovered someone decided to put raisins in it!!!
[15:29] <ogra_> !
[15:30]  * ogra_ *exactly* knows how that feels 
[15:30] <t1mp> :)
[15:31] <Elleo> you ubuntu users are so silly; didn't you know your food is configurable? If you don't want raisins just pick them out.
[15:35] <t1mp> Elleo: that ruins the whole eating experience
[15:36] <t1mp> some times they are too much integrated with the rest of the food :(
[15:37] <Elleo> you should switch to a source distribution then, they provide you with all the ingredients so you can bake the food however you like
[15:37] <Elleo> I'm sure gentoo as a -raising useflag
[15:38] <Elleo> -raisins*
[15:38] <t1mp> Elleo: too much work. I'll just eat other food that doens't have raisins :)
[15:42] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, when you have a moment, can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/notes-app/swipe-to-delete-emulator/+merge/194566 ?
[15:48] <rottinrob> good morning jkeyes0
[15:49] <rottinrob> hey jordan...you got your ears on?
[15:51] <jkeyes0> I do
[15:52] <rottinrob> good morning...how ya doing
[15:52] <jkeyes0> pretty well, you?
[15:52] <rottinrob> well, thanks
[15:52] <rottinrob> I noticed you were following the Tabbed Ui
[15:53] <rottinrob> I've pulled down your trunk to look
[15:53] <jkeyes0> yeah, thought that's what we discussed at the last meeting, so I was giving it a shot.
[15:54] <rottinrob> I was going at the PageStack UI
[15:54] <rottinrob> I didn't know we were supposed to go tabbed
[15:54] <jkeyes0> I'd say it's up to us at the end of the day. whatever is easy to use and looks nice.
[15:55] <rottinrob> I think its a good thing that we are following 2 different angles
[15:55] <rottinrob> at the end of the day, we can see which one works better for the app
[15:56] <jkeyes0> absolutely
[15:57] <rottinrob> do you know where to pull the toolbar and menu buttons from...I can't find them
[15:59] <jkeyes0> haven't quite gotten to that point yet. let me look
[15:59] <rottinrob> do you know alan's handle by chance..I could ask him
[16:01] <rottinrob> popey...are you on by chance?
[16:07] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[16:07] <oSoMoN> thanks
[16:07] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: I thought the swipe to delete emulator was merged quite some time ago into the UITK
[16:08] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, it was, but it was buggy, and now it’s been fixed
[16:08] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, so until now we couldn’t really use it
[16:08] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: got it
[16:09] <nerochiaro> o
[16:17] <superjoe> hi - I just added a library to a PPA. when I install the package and try to compile code against the library, I get undefined references to a library that the ppa library depends on
[16:17] <superjoe> this does not happen when I do a manual build from source
[16:17] <superjoe> any suggestions?
[16:17] <superjoe> I have both of the linker commands for comparison if anyone wants to see
[16:26] <superjoe> https://gist.github.com/superjoe30/7547989
[16:26] <superjoe> hmm I think I want #ubuntu-packaging
[17:04] <jkeyes0> rottinrob_: looking at Michael Hall's blog, he mentions that PageStack automatically puts a "Back" button in the bottom toolbar when you push more than one page onto the stack. http://mhall119.com/2013/04/building-an-ubuntu-sdk-app-rev-1/
[17:06] <rottinrob_> oh nice...I'll check that out...thank you Jordan
[17:10] <rottinrob_> that is exactly what I've been looking for...it leaves a clean UI
[17:10] <rottinrob_> thanks again Jordan
[17:18]  * mhall119 is quite excited to see jkeyes0 hanging out in here :)
[17:40] <rottinrob_> Jordan...very nice work on finding that article!!!
[17:40] <jkeyes0> :)
[17:41] <rottinrob_> it was the missing piece if you will
[17:42] <randomcpp> popey, ping
[17:51] <popey> hey randomcpp / jkeyes0 / rottinrob_
[17:51] <popey> feel free to type at me, am kinda busy doing UDS running stuff ☻
[17:51] <rottinrob_> hey popey
[17:54] <rottinrob_> if you get a sec popey take a look at the Reminders App UI...see what ya think
[17:57] <randomcpp> popey, oh sorry, I've to ask some not important things, don't worry I can't wait
[18:02] <mhall119> jvrbanac: around?
[18:06] <jkeyes0> rottinrob_: looking at your latest push, we might end up having to do a mix of a tabbed UI and a pagestack. I think the Notes view will fit nicely inside of the pagestack, but I don't know about the Reminders view.
[18:06] <jkeyes0> if that's even possible.
[18:13] <rottinrob_> jkeyes0...the reminders view will fit nicely inside the pagestack with a listview mod attached...
[18:13] <rottinrob_> it will be just like the notebook view which will expand to view the full reminder
[18:14] <rottinrob_> now that I know what I was missing...I could probably set it up pretty quick if you'd like me to so you can see what I mean
[18:16] <jkeyes0> ohh, so the reminders will be a part of the notebooks. makes sense.
[18:16] <rottinrob_> plus I was reading earlier that its either or on the pagestack/tabbed approach...they say it bad practice to have both....something about confusing the API
[18:17] <rottinrob_> kinda...they can be attached to a note or some other data inside a notebook
[18:17] <jkeyes0> makes sense
[18:18] <jkeyes0> I haven't spent much time with Evernote itself. looks like you have notebooks, which have notes, which can have reminders attached. so perhaps the reminders should be able to be linked to from the Notes.
[18:19] <rottinrob_> yea...they should be, or any other data you want really
[18:19]  * jkeyes0 downloads the Evernote Android app to see how it's "officially" supported, lol.
[18:19] <rottinrob_> it should all link and interlink inside this app
[18:20] <rottinrob_> I honestly think that the Cordova API is gonna be our best bet to get these boys talking nicely
[18:22] <jkeyes0> agreed. at least for the hardware interaction (camera)
[18:26] <daker> oSoMoN: would you mark this as fixed bug 1251286
[18:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1251286 in webbrowser-app "youtube.com doesn't recognize UTouch UA as mobile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1251286
[18:26] <daker> oSoMoN: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/webbrowser-app/trunk/revision/413
[18:26] <rottinrob_> they can both use javascript through Cordova and we can even throw in some Qt or JSON in the Evernote API through Cordova
[18:29] <jkeyes0> I think we're going to end up using the C++ api instead of the JS one. the JS one isn't compatible with QML, from what I understand.
[18:30] <rottinrob_> JS is fully compatible with QML...its built into the Qt API
[18:31] <rottinrob_> brb...need to restart
[18:36] <oSoMoN> daker, good catch, I updated the bug status
[18:37] <daker> oSoMoN: i remember that i have found that the browser doesn't respect the "required" html5 attribute
[18:39] <oSoMoN> daker, can you file a bug report if there isn’t one already?
[18:39] <daker> oSoMoN: sure
[18:40] <oSoMoN> thankns
[18:40] <oSoMoN> thanks
[19:27] <AskUbuntu> How do I submit a browser plugin to software center | http://askubuntu.com/q/379495
[19:41] <hakermania> Any idea why developer.ubuntu.com signs me in as hakermania2 ?
[19:42] <hakermania> I am using the same email as the one in UF, and my username is hakermania, not hakermania2
[21:03] <bensocket> hi. i am new to developing apps or programing...does anyone have any tips as where i should do research and or classes? thanks