[03:42] <John____> Any reason after installing ubuntu gnome and updating it always locks up at the intial gnome loading screen?
[03:43] <John____> Trying to move away from windows with a minor background in Linux - Primarily web development servers and it's been a difficult experience so far :(
[12:08] <mgedmin> um... printing stopped working after I upgraded to ubuntu gnome 13.10
[12:09] <mgedmin> apparently my local CUPS specifies the wrong Host: header when it tries to talk to the remote CUPS
[12:09] <mgedmin> judging from /var/log/cups/error_log on the remote end
[12:09] <mgedmin> (local end just says "[Job 24] Unable to get printer status."
[12:09] <mgedmin> does anyone know where GNOME 3.8 keeps printer settings?
[12:10] <mgedmin> System Preferences won't let me see or edit the ipp:// URL
[12:12] <mgedmin> I suppose I should use the cups admin interface at http://localhost:631/ ...
[12:19] <mgedmin> ok, solved by adding a ServerAlias line in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on the server
[12:19] <mgedmin> no idea why printing used to work before the upgrade and stopped after
[12:40] <mgedmin> so: upgrade was irrelevant, the breakage was due to server-side cups configuration
[13:09] <roasted> mgedmin: I noticed the same thing when I bumped to 3.10. I was on the verge of staying with ubuntu gnome vs going elsewhere so for the time being I chose the latter.
[13:10] <roasted> Couldn't tell you why or how, but all I know is going to 3.10 wiped my ability to print. Sort of a big deal if you ask me.
[13:10] <mgedmin> printers never work
[13:10] <mgedmin> did you notice the bit where my problem was on the server side?  because the admin (me) hand-edited /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, incorrectly? ;)
[13:10] <roasted> mine worked in 3.8, but then everything failed to add in 3.10
[13:11] <roasted> mgedmin: I'm speaking from my experience.
[13:11] <mgedmin> merely saying it's not the same thing as mine ;)
[13:11] <roasted> mgedmin: ubuntu gnome 13.10 + the default gnome 3.8, printers were fine. Upgraded to gnome 3.10, could not install *any* printer of *any* make or model.
[13:11] <roasted> ...right
[13:11] <mgedmin> that's probably why 3.10 is not in the main ppa :(
[13:11] <roasted> I'm simply ADDING to the conversation here, indicating that I also had problems with printing.
[13:12] <roasted> my printers work fine in gnome 3.10 on opensuse
[13:12] <roasted> I'd bet my house it's not a gnome 3.10 issue at all, but something with 3.10 + ubuntu base.
[13:12] <mgedmin> makes sense for it to be integration issue
[13:12] <roasted> especially given the amount of hoops the ubu devs must jump through to make gnome work
[13:13] <roasted> gotta run - farewell.
[21:29] <isiah_> Apparently my previous issue of gnome-settings-daemon continuously crashing on startup on Saucy 64-bit is completely resolved by simply installing only gnome-settings-daemon from the gnome3-team/gnome3-next PPA.
[21:48] <darkxst> isiah_, thanks for testing
[21:50] <darkxst> I will get the fix backported to Saucy
[22:41] <rZr> hi
[22:42] <rZr> just asking , would it be possible to install gnome-control-center 3.8 on ubunu-gnome ?
[22:43] <rZr> and why do u-g still use the 3.6 one from ubuntu base ?
[23:06] <darkxst> rZr, its in the gnome3 PPA
[23:07] <darkxst> we share gnome-control-center with ubuntu, but we couldnt get it updated in time last cycle