[20:02] <costales> Hi everybody!
[20:02] <kaziweb> Hi
[20:03] <costales> Hi rafael_carreras :) How are you?
[20:03] <rafael_carreras> fine :)
[20:03] <costales> Great :D
[20:03] <costales> Great your last install party! rafael_carreras
[20:03] <costales> I saw in the planet
[20:03] <rafael_carreras> thank you, costales
[20:05] <skellat> costales: Shall we start with the LoCo Council meeting?
[20:06] <costales> Hi SergioMeneses!
[20:06] <costales> skellat: Who we are here from the Council?
[20:06] <costales> Who are we here from the Council?
[20:06] <BobJonkman1> Hello all!
[20:06] <SergioMeneses> hi guys!
[20:06] <SergioMeneses> BobJonkman1, ni
[20:06] <SergioMeneses> hi
[20:06] <ChitKo> hi
[20:06] <kaziweb> Hi I'm from Ubuntu Qatar.
[20:06] <skellat> skellat, costales, sergiomeneses
[20:06] <costales> |o/
[20:07] <SergioMeneses> skellat, ok
[20:07] <kaziweb> And for the first time in council meeting.
[20:07] <skellat> I think we can go ahead and start
[20:07] <skellat> #startmeeting
[20:07] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 19 20:07:18 2013 UTC.  The chair is skellat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:07] <SergioMeneses> kaziweb, welcome!
[20:07] <skellat> This is the November regular meeting of the LoCo Council
[20:07] <kaziweb> SergioMeneses, thanks
[20:07] <skellat> We have two applications before us at this meeting for consideration
[20:08] <kokoye2007> thx skellat
[20:08] <costales> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[20:08] <ChitKo> yes
[20:08] <skellat> #topic ubuntu-mm
[20:08] <costales> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MyanmarTeam/VerificationApplication2013
[20:09] <skellat> At this point I must stress that, due to the number of members who are unable to be present, we have votes that have been recorded separately in bugmail
[20:09] <skellat> While I look up those votes, I invite kokoye2007 to tell us a little bit about the current state of ubuntu-mm
[20:09] <kokoye2007> yes skellat
[20:10] <kokoye2007> we have pre vote +1 4 person :D
[20:10] <costales> Welcome kokoye2007
[20:10] <kokoye2007> now we planing for Ubuntu 13.10 Biggest Event
[20:10] <kokoye2007> in 2 City
[20:10] <SergioMeneses> awesome kokoye2007 !
[20:11] <kokoye2007> also Country Level Mobile Event in Order booth  - for Ubuntu Mobile Event (Dec-2013)
[20:11] <kokoye2007> this year we more promote Ubuntu OS in our country
[20:12] <costales> I see your wiki pretty nice and good information ;)
[20:12] <kokoye2007> bcz IP Law is early
[20:12] <skellat> The wiki looks in pretty good shape
[20:12] <ChitKo> thanx
[20:12] <skellat> If I may interrupt for a moment, let me put the absent votes on record
[20:12] <skellat> #nick PabloRubianes
[20:12] <skellat> #info PabloRubianes voted +1
[20:12] <skellat> #nick jose
[20:13] <kokoye2007> who is make IT event - they invited to our ubuntu loco team
[20:13] <skellat> #info jose voted +1
[20:13] <skellat> #nick coolbhavi
[20:13] <costales> kokoye2007: Have you had any issues? Or things the council can help with?
[20:13] <skellat> #info coolbhavi voted +1
[20:13] <kokoye2007> bcz innovative and pioneer FLOSS team
[20:13] <SergioMeneses> I want to say you have an amazing wiki kokoye2007  and I am gald you use the loco team portal for your events http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-mm/ ....and there are a lot of good pictures! :)
[20:13] <kokoye2007> thx SergioMeneses
[20:14] <ChitKo> thanx SergioMeneses
[20:14] <skellat> Is there any further discussion?
[20:14] <kokoye2007> :)
[20:14] <skellat> #voters skellat SergioMeneses costales
[20:14] <meetingology> Current voters: SergioMeneses costales skellat
[20:15] <kokoye2007> this year to Ubuntu Year for Myanmar
[20:15] <kokoye2007> i wanna try look like China
[20:15] <SergioMeneses> kokoye2007, might you answer costales question :)
[20:16] <SergioMeneses> might we help your team with something?
[20:16] <kokoye2007> yes
[20:16] <costales> :)
[20:16] <kokoye2007> when we make
[20:16] <ChitKo> thanks
[20:16] <kokoye2007> Barcamp or
[20:16] <kokoye2007> Ubuntu Camp / UbuCamp
[20:16] <hono> thanks sir
[20:16] <kokoye2007> Who can coming and Contribute / Guide
[20:17] <kokoye2007> example Ubuntu Install Festival / Ubuntu Travel in Myanmar
[20:17] <skellat> Okay
[20:18] <kokoye2007> migrate (Window$ > Ubuntu)
[20:18] <skellat> Some of that got discussed in the LoCo Projects session at vUDS-1311 today.  I urge you to go back and watch the session to learn what dpm, popey, myself, and others were talking about.
[20:18] <SergioMeneses> kokoye2007, I dont get your point... you want to make a guide about hw to contribute or I miss something?
[20:18] <kokoye2007> both
[20:18] <kokoye2007> :D
[20:19] <kokoye2007> who can come (and) who can guideline
[20:19] <kokoye2007> thx skellat
[20:19] <SergioMeneses> ok I propose this! kokoye2007 send us an email with this "project" and we are going to see what might we do :)
[20:19] <costales> kokoye2007: What about the wiki guides? Are they useful for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamsBestPracticesandGuidelines
[20:19] <SergioMeneses> skellat, costales ok with my idea?
[20:19] <costales> yes :D it will be a great feedback
[20:19] <skellat> SergioMeneses: No objections
[20:20] <SergioMeneses> perfect!
[20:20] <kokoye2007> Ohh thank SergioMeneses , costales
[20:20] <SergioMeneses> skellat, we are ready to vote - imho
[20:20] <costales> yes, I'm
[20:20] <skellat> #vote To approve the Verification of ubuntu-mm for a 2 year period
[20:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: To approve the Verification of ubuntu-mm for a 2 year period
[20:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:20] <skellat> +1 with hearty congratulations to the team for the great work they are doing
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 with hearty congratulations to the team for the great work they are doing received from skellat
[20:20] <kokoye2007> who is +1 :)
[20:20] <costales> +1 Impressive work team! Thanks! Keep your hard work ;)
[20:20] <meetingology> +1 Impressive work team! Thanks! Keep your hard work ;) received from costales
[20:21] <SergioMeneses> +1 excellent work ubuntu-mm
[20:21] <meetingology> +1 excellent work ubuntu-mm received from SergioMeneses
[20:21] <skellat> #endvote
[20:21] <meetingology> Voting ended on: To approve the Verification of ubuntu-mm for a 2 year period
[20:21] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:21] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:21] <costales> Congrants team! :D
[20:21] <kokoye2007> thank costales
[20:21] <skellat> #agreed With the 3 absent votes plus the 3 positive votes in-meeting, ubuntu-mm stands Verified for 2 years
[20:21] <kokoye2007> thank SergioMeneses
[20:21] <ChitKo> Thank you all
[20:21] <kokoye2007> thank skellat
[20:21] <kokoye2007> :)
[20:21] <hono> thanks all sir
[20:21] <costales> kokoye2007: Thanks to all the team :)
[20:22] <kokoye2007> we promise, more project, more contribute, more love ubuntu :)
[20:22] <SergioMeneses> congrats ubuntu-mm ChitKo and kokoye2007
[20:22] <skellat> Okay, lets move on to the next topic
[20:22] <skellat> #topic Abstention of a Council Member
[20:22] <SergioMeneses> kokoye2007, if you need help from us! please let us know ;)
[20:22] <skellat> #info skellat serves as Point of Contact/Leader for Ubuntu Ohio
[20:23] <kokoye2007> yes, thx SergioMeneses
[20:23] <skellat> #info skellat also serves as a member of LoCo Council
[20:23] <ChitKo> y
[20:23] <skellat> #info skellat will not be permitted to vote on the application of Ubuntu Ohio for Verification
[20:23] <SergioMeneses> skellat, dont worry!
[20:23] <skellat> #info SergioMeneses will take the chair for proceedings on the Ubuntu Ohio application
[20:23] <skellat> #chair SergioMeneses
[20:23] <meetingology> Current chairs: SergioMeneses skellat
[20:23] <skellat> #topic ubuntu-us-ohio
[20:24] <skellat> I yield to SergioMeneses to continue the meeting
[20:24] <costales> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/VerificationApplication2013
[20:24] <SergioMeneses> greetings ubuntu-us-oh !
[20:24] <SergioMeneses> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/VerificationApplication2013
[20:24] <skellat> Greetings on behalf of a rather rambunctious community
[20:24] <SergioMeneses> thanks costales
[20:24] <SergioMeneses> skellat, tell us something about your community
[20:25] <skellat> After two failed attempts at seeking Approval, Ubuntu Ohio entered a bit of a restructuring
[20:25] <skellat> During that time Ubuntu Ohio transitioned from having a High Council to lead it to now being led by a sole leader
[20:25] <skellat> We've instituted some changes to try to increase the engagement level
[20:25] <costales> I'm glad to see you're using the Portal :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ohio/events/history/
[20:25] <skellat> Thank you
[20:26] <skellat> Above and beyond the requirements in general for LoCo membership, members for Ubuntu Ohio **must** sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[20:26] <SergioMeneses> skellat, glad to read that! a lot of teams are working on the same area... how to get more activity, members, and others
[20:26] <skellat> This ensures that they are empowered to take action on any complaints they have to the relevant team rather than complain intra-team
[20:26] <skellat> SergioMeneses: Our big goal right now is to get everybody empowered
[20:27] <skellat> I bluntly told multiple members in-person at Ohio Linux Fest 2013 that I do not whining or complaining without action
[20:27] <skellat> If you have a problem, I want to remove the barriers so you can seek a fix to the problem
[20:27] <SergioMeneses> skellat, great! I think someday you might share about this with us and all loco-teams
[20:27] <costales> You've been busy ;)
[20:27] <skellat> Yeah
[20:27] <SergioMeneses> costales, agree
[20:28] <skellat> Putting on OLF 2013 was our short-term goal which we just completed
[20:28] <SergioMeneses> I really like your "member map"  http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/map/user
[20:28] <costales> skellat: So what do you think is the best thing that works for the team, is it social events?
[20:29] <skellat> costales: In-person, no.  We're too spread out.  Online, yes.  We're making online socialization work.
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> skellat, great!
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> skellat, do you have problems in your team or if we might help you with something?
[20:29] <costales> skellat: Which social platform is working better? Twitter, FB, G+, Identi.ca...?
[20:30] <BobJonkman1> skellat: How did you achieve online socialization?
[20:30]  * SergioMeneses forgets skellat is part of the LC 
[20:30] <skellat> SergioMeneses: Not at this time.  Any member of the Council is welcome to attend our meeting later this month when we work on our long range planning
[20:30] <skellat> costales: IRC & Mailing Lists are what are working best followed by G+ then Twitter
[20:31] <costales> skellat: Great! ;)
[20:31] <costales> Nice detailed wiki
[20:32] <SergioMeneses> and you have a good experience this year! I like that as well... I think we are ready to vote, costales dont you think?
[20:32] <skellat> BobJonkman1: Right now we focus on our IRC meetings.  When it comes down to it, I'm actually located closer to you "as the crow flies" than my next closest member of Ubuntu Ohio.  The IRC channel has been the main watering hole for discussion although I am trying to get some of that to move to discourse.ubuntu.com potentially.  Discussion in-channel is pretty varied.
[20:33] <skellat> We should note that votes were already cast in the bug
[20:33] <SergioMeneses> good answer skellat !
[20:33] <costales> I have to ask :P Do you need something from the council?
[20:33] <BobJonkman1> #info skellat, LoCo Council: at some future time I'd like to discuss how to improve IRC meeting participation for Ubuntu-ca
[20:33] <SergioMeneses> ok we have 4 votes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-locoteams/+bug/1247523
[20:34] <skellat> #action LoCo Council to discuss with Point of Contact for Canada how to improve participation
[20:34] <meetingology> ACTION: LoCo Council to discuss with Point of Contact for Canada how to improve participation
[20:34] <SergioMeneses> jaja the bug is private
[20:34] <kokoye2007> it's private
[20:34] <skellat> Hold on
[20:34] <skellat> #nick jose
[20:34] <SergioMeneses> skellat, it's ok
[20:34] <skellat> #info jose voted +1 on Ohio
[20:34] <costales> Great BobJonkman1 I'll a pleasure :)
[20:34] <skellat> #nick coolbhavi
[20:34] <skellat> #info coolbhavi voted +1 on Ohio
[20:35] <skellat> #nick PabloRubianes
[20:35] <skellat> #info PabloRubianes voted +1 on Ohio
[20:35] <skellat> SergioMeneses: Okay, we've got that on record now :-)
[20:35] <SergioMeneses> skellat, perfect!
[20:35] <SergioMeneses> skellat, I think my vote is not necessary =( jajaja
[20:35] <SergioMeneses> congratulations ubuntu-us-ohio
[20:36] <skellat> Oh, that's right I almost forgot
[20:36] <skellat> #nick costales
[20:36] <costales> :P
[20:36] <skellat> #info costales voted +1 on Ohio
[20:36] <costales> Of course :)
[20:36] <costales> You did an awesome hard work!
[20:36] <SergioMeneses> skellat, I will put my vote on the bug ;)
[20:37] <SergioMeneses> costales, skellat do we have more things on the board?
[20:37] <skellat> #agreed ubuntu-us-ohio stands Verified for 2 years
[20:37] <skellat> #topic Any Other Business
[20:37] <BobJonkman1> Since there are lots of people online I haven't met before, can we do a round of introductions before the meeting ends?
[20:38] <kokoye2007> g8t! skellat , costales
[20:38] <kokoye2007> :)
[20:38] <costales> Congrats ubuntu-us-ohio!! And thanks! :D
[20:38] <skellat> #subtopic Introductions
[20:38] <ChitKo> Congrats ubuntu-us-ohio!!
[20:38] <skellat> Thank you kokoye2007, ChitKo, costales
[20:38] <BobJonkman1> I'm Bob Jonkman from Elmira, Ontario, Canada, and a co-contact for Canada with Darcy Casselman (dscassel on IRC)
[20:38] <costales> Of course BobJonkman1
[20:39] <costales> Nice to meet you BobJonkman1, it's a pleasure :)
[20:39] <BobJonkman1> Hello, costales!
[20:39] <skellat> My name is Stephen Michael Kellat in Ashtabula, Ohio, USA, and am a member of LoCo Council as well as Point of Contact/Leader for Ubuntu Ohio.  BobJonkman1 otherwise sees me on Identica as alpacaherder usually.
[20:40] <BobJonkman1> It was useful to receive a reminder of this meeting on the LoCo-Contacts mailing list -- thanx for that, skellat
[20:40] <skellat> No problem
[20:40] <kokoye2007> nice 2 meet ya skellat,
[20:41] <hono> nice to see skellat
[20:41] <skellat> A big thing right now is to work on communication.  popey brought that up as an issue during the LoCo Projects session at today's vUDS-1311 panels and it is an active matter to deal with.
[20:41] <SergioMeneses> BobJonkman1, indeed ... skellat rocks!
[20:41] <costales> BobJonkman1: I'm costales. Hi from a LoCo Council Member too!
[20:41] <SergioMeneses> skellat, close the meeting ;)
[20:41] <costales> hahahaha
[20:42] <SergioMeneses> ok I have to go back to work! see you later guys!
[20:42] <SergioMeneses> take care
[20:42] <ChitKo> great
[20:42] <BobJonkman1> Bye SergioMeneses
[20:42] <kokoye2007> bye SergioMeneses see ya later ;P
[20:42] <hono> take care bye
[20:42] <ChitKo> bye skellet , costales , SergioMeneses
[20:42] <skellat> Alrighty
[20:43] <skellat> It looks like we're done
[20:43] <skellat> #topic Next meeting
[20:43] <skellat> #info The next meeting will be the Third Tuesday of December at 2000 UTC
[20:43] <skellat> #endmeeting
[20:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 19 20:43:35 2013 UTC.
[20:43] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-11-19-20.07.moin.txt
[20:43] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-11-19-20.07.html
[20:44] <costales> BobJonkman1: If you have any issue at any time, please, ping us in the #ubuntu-locoteams :)
[20:44] <costales> We're for helping you
[20:44] <BobJonkman1> Will do, costales
[20:44] <costales> BobJonkman1: :) ;)
[20:45] <costales> |o/
[20:45] <BobJonkman1> I'll schedule an IRC meeting for ubuntu-ca and invite LoCo Council members to discuss participation
[20:45] <BobJonkman1> We've been having them regularly, but attendance dropped off to the point where I was just talking to myself.
[20:45]  * genii slides BobJonkman1 a coffee
[20:46] <BobJonkman1> Thanx genii! Always nice to have you around
[20:47] <BobJonkman1> Meeting/Agenda from the last IRC meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2013/2013-09-26
[20:49] <costales> Nice BobJonkman1
[20:49] <costales> I'll try to be there :D
[20:50] <costales> Remember us, OK?
[20:51] <BobJonkman1> Thanx.  Should be on 28 November at 19:00-0500 (EST), or 00:00 UTC on 29 November.  That gives us a local time range of 16:00 (PST) to 21:30 (NST)  -- Canada is really big...
[21:00] <costales> BobJonkman1: I think it will be a bad hour for me :P It's my 22.00 now xD
[21:01] <BobJonkman1> Hmm... Not sure how to fix that.  Evening meetings (in local time zone) are preferred to avoid conflicts with people's working hours
[21:01] <costales> There are more members in the council :) Don't worry
[21:01] <costales> We'll try!
[21:02] <BobJonkman1> I'm just creating an agenda now, and I'll create an event in the LoCo portal, and send a message to the LoCo Contacts mailing list. That should get some people, I hope!
[21:03] <costales> ;)
[22:45] <BobJonkman1> OK, Ubuntu-ca  agenda for the IRC meeting posted at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2013/2013-11-28 LoCo Portal event at http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ca/2646/detail/