[18:06] <Kwisher_wrk> started getting a "all tuners busy" error last night after installing the latest updates from .27 fixes
[21:14] <tgm4883> Kwisher, do you somehow have 2 instances of mythbackend running?
[21:17] <Kwisher> tgm4883: checking now
[21:17] <Kwisher> how can that happen?
[21:17] <tgm4883> Kwisher, it shouldn't be able to
[21:18] <tgm4883> well, it could if something else started it
[21:18] <tgm4883> but using the upstart scripts, it shouldn't be able to happen
[21:19] <Kwisher> did a service mythtv-backend stop and nothing myth related is running
[21:19] <tgm4883> Kwisher, do 'ps aux | grep mythbackend'
[21:21] <Kwisher> kevin     7147  0.0  0.0   9440   908 pts/1    S+   16:20   0:00 grep --color=auto mythbackend
[21:21] <tgm4883> that looks right
[21:21] <tgm4883> anything in the backend logs after you start it?
[21:24] <Kwisher> no errors that i see
[21:25] <tgm4883> hmm
[21:25] <tgm4883> Go into watch tv and see if you still get the error or if anything is in the backend log
[21:26] <Kwisher> problem seems to have started after update yesterday
[21:28] <Kwisher> mythweb is also having issues
[21:28] <tgm4883> Kwisher, so nothing gets printed in the backend log when you try to go to live tv?
[21:30] <Kwisher> just tried to start livetv and it haung, all tuners busy shows, nothing in log
[21:32] <Kwisher> brb, need a smoke, wife is stressing me out over this :(
[21:45] <Kwisher> rebooted the master be and now livetv starts
[21:46] <Kwisher> mythweb is behaving correctly
[21:46] <superm1> so just transient fun it sounsd like
[21:47] <Kwisher> no fun when wife can't watch tv
[21:55] <Kwisher> now mythweb is sluggish
[21:56] <Kwisher> maybe it's a db issue??
[21:59] <superm1> mythweb code hasn't changed in a while. https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/commits/fixes/0.27  if it's a regression, you can see what's changed here: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commits/fixes/0.27
[21:59] <superm1> you can try to do a repair/optimize of your DB if you think it's a DB issue
[22:01] <Kwisher> livetv just hung
[22:02] <Kwisher> log shows: I HDHRStreamHandler tv_rec.cpp:3393 (RingBufferChanged) TVRec[1]: RingBufferChanged()