| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/appdev-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/19/%23ubuntu-uds-appdev-1.html | ||
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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | App Developer Roundtable Tues | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22019/app-developer-roundtable-tues/ | ||
| * nik90 waves to WebbyIT and iBelieve | 14:59 | |
| mhall119 | hey guys, getting the hangout setup | 15:00 |
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| WebbyIT | I'll follow first 20-30 minutes, then I'll go to climb in gym :) nik90 | 15:00 |
| mhall119 | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpj2uc96vkt3ohsetlufqpkc?authuser=1&hl=en if anybody wants to join the hangout | 15:01 |
| nik90 | WebbyIT: ah okay | 15:03 |
| nik90 | can you guys see the hangout vide? | 15:04 |
| nik90 | video* | 15:04 |
| JoshStrobl | I can see you guys now | 15:04 |
| WebbyIT | yeah | 15:04 |
| netcurli | I can see you, mhall119 | 15:04 |
| JoshStrobl | @mhall119 | 15:04 |
| t1mp | I see you | 15:04 |
| nik90 | feel free to join in | 15:05 |
| nik90 | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpj2uc96vkt3ohsetlufqpkc?authuser=1&hl=en | 15:05 |
| JoshStrobl | oh man there is lag :D | 15:05 |
| lucaotta | we see you | 15:05 |
| t1mp | mhall119: you look spooky (a bit dark and the light from one side) | 15:05 |
| mhall119 | any questions from you guys here? | 15:14 |
| dbarth | there's also a qtcreator part adressed in the html5 session, to simplify the path to creating html5 apps | 15:15 |
| mhall119 | dbarth: want to join the hangout? | 15:16 |
| guest-8g62ff | I realise that qml is the focus for the phone and for use in the converged os - are there any plans to allow (even if it's not the recommended way) for python + gtk apps on the phone and the converged os, or not really? | 15:17 |
| * beuno answers and waits for the video to reach guest-8g62ff | 15:19 | |
| mhall119 | nik90: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21991/core-1311-cross-compilation/ | 15:20 |
| rickspencer3 | mhall119, aren't I supposed to be able to hop into the hangouts from a button? | 15:21 |
| mhall119 | rickspencer3: supposed do, did you refresh the page? | 15:22 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah | 15:22 |
| beuno | rickspencer3, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpj2uc96vkt3ohsetlufqpkc?authuser=1&hl=en | 15:22 |
| rickspencer3 | mhall119, where is the button supposed to be? | 15:22 |
| mhall119 | rickspencer3: above the video | 15:22 |
| t1mp | rickspencer3: tracking for one month is not enough. You need to take different things into account (like the position of the moon ;)) | 15:27 |
| rickspencer3 | t1mp, yeah, well ... | 15:28 |
| rickspencer3 | er | 15:28 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah | 15:28 |
| rickspencer3 | I wasn't going to go there, though | 15:28 |
| asomething | the review tools should just run when you build the package and issue warnings | 15:34 |
| XlrTwoDmx | Hello there I am new to all this. But a co-worker of mine told me about this. I am thinking about making a screen casting tool. but am kinda lost. Is there any command line tool that don't need X to screencast ? thanks for your time . (like ffmpeg or something like that) | 15:34 |
| asomething | like when you hook lintian to debuild | 15:35 |
| mhall119 | XlrTwoDmx: are you talking about doing this as a desktop app or a mobile app? | 15:35 |
| XlrTwoDmx | mhall119: both using the sdk | 15:36 |
| XlrTwoDmx | mhall119: confused about the mir part. | 15:36 |
| mhall119 | XlrTwoDmx: I'll answer in the video in one minute | 15:36 |
| XlrTwoDmx | thanks mhall119 | 15:37 |
| mhall119 | XlrTwoDmx: tvoss in #ubuntu-mir, as rickspencer3 suggested | 15:40 |
| XlrTwoDmx | so ffmpeg is out of the question ? thanks for the answers all | 15:40 |
| beuno | XlrTwoDmx, well, you can install ffmpeg manually | 15:41 |
| mhall119 | XlrTwoDmx: I think so yes, but tvoss would know more | 15:41 |
| beuno | with sudo | 15:41 |
| beuno | but that'll be developer mode | 15:41 |
| beuno | which may be fine for your use case | 15:41 |
| XlrTwoDmx | rickspencer3: who said I am a "He" | 15:42 |
| XlrTwoDmx | :P | 15:42 |
| mhall119 | XlrTwoDmx: it used to be proper English grammer to default to masculine pronouns when the actual gender of a person was unknown | 15:42 |
| mhall119 | at least that's what I was taught | 15:42 |
| mhall119 | but, like two-spaces after a period, that seems to be out of favor these days | 15:43 |
| kyleN | this should have a short explanatory article on dev.u.com probably with example app(s) | 15:46 |
| mhall119 | kyleN: the u1db stuff? | 15:46 |
| kyleN | yes, app local storage (not html localStorage) | 15:47 |
| kyleN | yes | 15:47 |
| kyleN | of course. | 15:48 |
| kyleN | :) | 15:48 |
| kyleN | mhall119, you know that I believe the IA needs to support add hoc articles in a domain scope | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, 2 spaces after a period is a waste of white space :) | 15:48 |
| kyleN | there are lots of such topics that deserve short articles | 15:48 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: I know we have a national shortage of white space | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:49 |
| nik90 | mhall119: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~uonedb-qt/u1db-qt/trunk/files/head:/examples/u1db-qt-example-1/ | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | kyleN, something like the blog post from rickspencer3 yesterday, it would be great to have something like that on the site | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | mhall119, ^^ | 15:51 |
| mhall119 | kenvandine: that what we were talking about | 15:51 |
| kyleN | the same issue exists in html. the api docs I wrote show the normative declarations for each type, but we also need discussions and exampels | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | not just docs on how to use it, but showing the alternatives and which work best for which scenario | 15:51 |
| kyleN | kenvandine, can you give the link to that awesome blogpost? ;) | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | sorry, i jumped in late :) | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/how-to-use-local-data-in-ubuntu-qml-apps/1194 | 15:53 |
| mhall119 | any final questions from the channel? | 15:53 |
| mhall119 | thanks everyone | 15:54 |
| XlrTwoDmx | Is there any way to install the emulator that you are talking about before ? | 15:55 |
| kyleN | cheers | 15:55 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | Improving the content of App Developer Cookbooks | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22023/appdev-1311-better-cookbooks/ | ||
| mhall119 | will be a minute, helping someone with another session | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpij41os211f64am6rv0lf34?authuser=1&hl=en for anybody who wants to join the hangout | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | asomething: joining this one? | 16:07 |
| * sidnei waves to Chipaca over the interwebs | 16:07 | |
| Chipaca | blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1311-push-notifications | 16:07 |
| asomething | mhall119, sure | 16:07 |
| Chipaca | agh | 16:07 |
| mhall119 | Chipaca: #ubuntu-uds-appdev-2 | 16:07 |
| mhall119 | http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/cookbook/ | 16:09 |
| mhall119 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntudeveloperportal/askubuntu-scripts/files | 16:10 |
| kyleN | nice work so far! | 16:13 |
| kyleN | is there a defined set of tags so people know how to use them to get stuff into a cookbook? | 16:15 |
| kyleN | Maybe we need a community role of "cookbook moderator" | 16:16 |
| kyleN | If there were a "cookbook moderator" for each major topic (html5 qml etc) and | 16:17 |
| kyleN | if we had a published list of tags taht cookbook moderators look at | 16:17 |
| mhall119 | kyleN: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpij41os211f64am6rv0lf34?authuser=1&hl=en if you want to join | 16:17 |
| kyleN | joinging | 16:18 |
| mhall119 | http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/cookbook/ | 16:30 |
| mhall119 | http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/html-5/cookbook/ | 16:31 |
| asomething | http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/qml+application-development | 16:34 |
| dbarth | kyleN: +1 feels like editing the content means both the static content on u.d.c but askubuntu is also a very important of it | 16:39 |
| dbarth | part of it | 16:39 |
| dbarth | or maybe this is an email process to someone who has the rights to the scripts to get started | 16:40 |
| dbarth | instead of coding that on the web server | 16:40 |
| dbarth | mhall119: ^^ | 16:40 |
| dbarth | cause the number of "privileged editing on askubuntu" may not require a full blown tool like that | 16:41 |
| mhall119 | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-appdev-1311-better-cookbooks | 16:46 |
| dbarth | mhall119: ok | 16:48 |
| dbarth | sounds good | 16:48 |
| dbarth | (measuring the lag) | 16:48 |
| dbarth | mhall119: it does yes, thanks | 16:48 |
| dbarth | oh i'm there sure, maybe we can do a quick recap in the html5 session later today | 16:49 |
| dbarth | as documentation (and so the cookbook) is one of the topics | 16:49 |
| mhall119 | ok | 16:49 |
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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/appdev-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/19/%23ubuntu-uds-appdev-1.html | ||
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | Expanding the API Website | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22025/appdev-1311-expanding-api-website/ | ||
| mhall119 | if anybody wants to join the hangout for this session: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpikvngov5scpk9s1ofsuqbk?authuser=1&hl=en | 18:04 |
| mhall119 | it's not live yet, but will be in a couple minutes | 18:04 |
| mhall119 | kyleN: you want to join this one too? | 18:06 |
| kyleN | mhall119, sure | 18:06 |
| cgoldberg | mhall119, got hanggout link? | 18:06 |
| mhall119 | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpikvngov5scpk9s1ofsuqbk?authuser=1&hl=en | 18:06 |
| mhall119 | going live now | 18:07 |
| mhall119 | let me know when folks cna see us | 18:07 |
| mhall119 | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-appdev-1311-expanding-api-website | 18:08 |
| daker | mhall119: you are muted | 18:10 |
| kyleN | Hi daker | 18:10 |
| daker | kyleN: hi | 18:11 |
| daker | mhall119: YOU ARE MUTED! | 18:11 |
| daker | kyleN: nice! | 18:16 |
| mhall119 | http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/ | 18:23 |
| cgoldberg | mhall119, this is what I have: http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/ | 18:33 |
| * dbarth waves ;) | 18:55 | |
| daker | mhall119: sure | 18:55 |
| mhall119 | thanks daker | 18:55 |
| daker | o/ | 18:56 |
| dbarth | hey mhall119, can you hook us up for the next one? | 18:56 |
| dbarth | daker: hey btw, you coming onto the hangout as well? | 18:59 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Track: App Development | SDK for HTML5 app deverlopers | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22073/appdev-1311-html5-sdk/ | ||
| mhall119 | dbarth: sure | 19:01 |
| alex-abreu | dbarth, daker told me that he was not able to attend ... only on irc | 19:02 |
| mhall119 | dbarth: alex-abreu: kyleN: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpjqbpmh3t1omhiu0ugtuh0o?authuser=1&hl=en | 19:02 |
| karni | hi alex-abreu :) looking forward to this session! | 19:02 |
| alex-abreu | karni, hop in! | 19:02 |
| mhall119 | hangout link is above ^^ | 19:03 |
| mhall119 | slides: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1Pq1q-vl0t-mcy-hFhl_c5GK-R_aV75kKA6OCW_AjDcA/edit#slide=id.p | 19:06 |
| karni | let's get this echo sorted :) | 19:07 |
| karni | let's not continue before its fixed :) | 19:07 |
| karni | you have the session browser in the browser | 19:07 |
| karni | please mute yourselves | 19:07 |
| karni | and make sure the session is closed | 19:07 |
| karni | in your browser | 19:07 |
| karni | That was my fault, sorry | 19:08 |
| karni | *I* had it open. I apologize guys. | 19:08 |
| robruds_ | dbarth: mhall119: the slides are just small, not taking the whole video | 19:08 |
| karni | Sorry David :) | 19:09 |
| mhall119 | robruds_: better? | 19:09 |
| robruds_ | mhall119: perfect ;-) | 19:09 |
| mhall119 | if anybody in the channel has questions or comments on these slides, go ahead and start asking | 19:16 |
| karni | qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu | 19:33 |
| pmcgowan | +1 on that suggestion, single template | 19:41 |
| popey | someone is echoing. | 19:43 |
| karni | yes, minor echo | 19:43 |
| pmcgowan | kyleN, need to mute | 19:43 |
| popey | dpm: mute kyleN ☻ | 19:44 |
| dpm | popey, thanks for the heads up, alex-abreu took care of it :) | 19:45 |
| alex-abreu | :) | 19:45 |
| pmcgowan | yes qtc work is not hard | 19:52 |
| pmcgowan | dbarth, -1 on that, need to discuss | 19:56 |
| pmcgowan | dbarth, I thought cordova was moving away from that? | 19:57 |
| pmcgowan | alex-abreu, ^^ | 19:57 |
| karni | pmcgowan: +1, rased that in the notes | 19:57 |
| karni | hrm | 19:58 |
| dbarth | pmcgowan: you feel we should keep 2.8 or ship 3.x in the next image? | 19:58 |
| pmcgowan | dbarth, not sure, whichever most apps are based on? | 19:59 |
| alex-abreu | pmcgowan, many apps are still 2.x | 19:59 |
| pmcgowan | I suspect yes | 19:59 |
| alex-abreu | and between 2.8 & 3.x the API level doesn't change much | 19:59 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-appdev-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/appdev-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/19/%23ubuntu-uds-appdev-1.html | ||
| karni | alex-abreu: I don't fully understand the choice to bundle the cordova API. This is because 3.x point releases will be specific? Not compatible? I mean, this will increase the app side, right? | 20:00 |
| karni | I thought it was an advantage that our platform provided a single runtime | 20:00 |
| dbarth | pmcgowan: 2.8/9 i think | 20:01 |
| alex-abreu | karni, it is ... | 20:01 |
| alex-abreu | karni, the trick is that for 3.x ... and in oreder for ubuntu to be part of the upstream official platforms w/ the set of tools (and that | 20:01 |
| alex-abreu | 's the bit that has changed significantly) | 20:01 |
| alex-abreu | we have to match their flow | 20:02 |
| karni | alex-abreu: ah, so it's an upstream matter really | 20:02 |
| karni | alex-abreu: gotcha, thanks | 20:02 |
| alex-abreu | e.g. the way that they handle plugins | 20:02 |
| alex-abreu | has changed signiticantly | 20:02 |
| alex-abreu | in terms iof workflow | 20:02 |
| alex-abreu | they are now independant | 20:02 |
| alex-abreu | and pulled from git repos | 20:02 |
| karni | alex-abreu: I see, thanks for the clarification! | 20:02 |
| alex-abreu | on demand | 20:02 |
| alex-abreu | n | 20:02 |
| * karni nod | 20:02 | |
| alex-abreu | p | 20:02 |
| daker | dbarth: yep | 20:10 |
| dbarth | cool | 20:12 |
| dbarth | well,that was a good session | 20:12 |
| daker | thank you | 20:13 |
| dbarth | see you all tomorrow | 20:14 |
| karni | thank you all | 20:14 |
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