[14:53] xnox: can you please op me [14:54] cjohnston: i have no idea how or why I have ops here. [14:54] you were the first to join [14:54] ah =) [14:54] * xnox wins [14:54] :-P [14:55] cjohnston: =(((((((((((( [14:55] thanks = [14:55] =) [14:58] cjohnston: i have more op powers on a few other channels. [14:59] cjohnston: core1 & core2, unless i'm in the wrong channels. [14:59] xnox: you are in the wrong channels, -uds-core-1 I believe [14:59] I only see client-1 [15:02] So cute to have a work with design! Love designing.. [15:03] but the Design Blog tread is already finish? [15:03] hi everyone [15:03] welcome to the design track [15:05] Thanks christina [15:06] can u guys see the broadcast? [15:06] we might be having some problem getting connection [15:07] what broadcast? [15:07] and what connection problem? [15:07] the youtbue video? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-design-1 to: Track: Design | Design blog | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22039/design-blog/ [15:08] "Please stand by starting soon..." [15:08] indeed [15:08] And the problem? [15:09] its live says the youtube [15:14] I don't ear really clearly but I can keep almost everything. [15:15] yes a bit better! [15:17] What's going on? Is the link to Hangout or to the same video? [15:19] what is the license of the articles and his pictures? [15:20] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpi2j0e0v03qa5sq7ra5qp8s?authuser=0&hl=en-GB [15:23] can I go outside of topic a bit? How I can collaborate with bunt blog? [15:24] M3kH: you mean with the design blog? [15:24] yes sorry yaili_ [15:25] M3kH: like guest writing? [15:26] like gust or a member. [15:27] M3kH: if you've been working on an ubuntu design project and would like to share something about that work, we could talk about it [15:28] I would like to help so why not. [15:28] M3kH: have you been working on a specific design project? [15:29] mhhh… yes but not for Ubuntu, almost is web. [15:29] I miss orange ubuntu mug in the shop.. [15:30] yes one question, what about did you do Interview outside of the Ubuntu comunity [15:30] like design inspiration etc...? [15:30] showcases? [15:31] ok thanks! [15:32] I goo away sorry. [15:34] QUESTION: Are you planning point out place for button "settings" for applications? [15:34] Something made this way out reaching ? [15:34] ok [15:51] These time differences kill me. I already missed two talks. === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-design-1 to: Track: Design | Responsive design | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22038/responsive-design/ [16:03] hi everyone [16:03] we are starting soon [16:03] pls feel free to join us [16:04] Not sure who else is in here with me [16:05] hi CheeseBurg thanks for joining us [16:05] I'm here too! [16:05] christina: Been waiting for this talk for a while [16:06] M3kH, welcome ...again :) [16:07] One of you need to close your browsers [16:07] CheeseBurg, yep we worked it out now. thanks...we always forget! [16:11] one of you guys need to mute [16:14] I ear you clear :) [16:15] jounih is not here? [16:15] KaleoF2: we see you instead of the slides now [16:15] ok now it is good [16:16] t1mp, all ok now? [16:16] christina: yes, thanks [16:16] t1mp, great- we'll get the hang of this ;) [16:19] christina: please focus the slides again, we're seeing KaleoF2 [16:20] good now :) [16:20] Saviq-uds, sometimes they pick up who speaks... [16:20] QUESTION: Will Unity 8 Desktop session be touch screen friendly with its UI. A lot of new laptops come with touchscreens like mine. [16:21] CheeseBurg: there's a better session for that question later (unity8-shell-discussion) [16:21] CheeseBurg: but yes [16:21] Saviq-uds: O didn't know that [16:22] Yea that's it [16:22] for now [16:23] QUESTION to Florian: how is the weather there? [16:24] t1mp, ;) [16:24] to follow up on the breakfast :) [16:24] I'm curious how the tabs will work out [16:24] QUESTION: Do you have ideas how to decide whether you are on a desktop or on phone? [16:25] music app \o/ [16:25] video just froze for me. is it just me? [16:25] t1mp: I'm afraid yes [16:25] ok video is back for me [16:25] QUESTION: Will apps be able to save its session when changing formats. Ex: If I am typing a message in the phone then docking the phone to a desktop, will I still be on the message screen and same message? [16:25] mzanetti: what do you mean how the tabs will work out? [16:26] t1mp: from a design/usability POV. they are really cumbersome to use with the mouse right [16:26] now [16:26] ah, how to do it on desktop. [16:26] mzanetti: I don't really have problems with them. But perhaps the tab bar should stay active on desktop [16:26] CheeseBurg, ur question will be next :) [16:27] christina:Thanks. If it is confusing, I can reword it. [16:27] KaleoF2: how about a stylus? [16:28] greyback: that's so 80s :P [16:28] mzanetti: see recent galaxy note :) [16:28] Yea [16:29] welcome :) [16:29] keep the questions coming guys :) [16:29] christina: FYI, the "Join the Hangout on Air" link just points to youtube instead of being able to join the hangout [16:29] mhall119, ^ [16:30] Saviq-uds, thanks- i will look into it for later sessions [16:30] Saviq-uds, did u want to join? [16:31] christina: sounds like the wrong url was put in the Hangout Details form fields [16:32] christina: when you were talking about unity8, yes ;) [16:32] ahh sorry Saviq-uds [16:32] mhall119, i followed the instructions... [16:32] QUESTION: sorry I've missed part of the session, so feel free to ignore this question if it was addressed already: responsive web design is very popular with lots of guides. Are these guides useful for application developers too? [16:33] greyback, will ask the guys in a moment [16:33] christina: thanks :) [16:34] QUESTION: what about for display with more the 72dpi? [16:36] M3kH: how do you mean that? the nexus devices have around 200 dpi [16:36] christina: question addressed, thank you [16:36] greyback, great. you're welcome [16:37] yes, but what about for imaged displayed are they blurred? [16:37] images* [16:37] M3kH: ah. we can ship multiple image files and it'll be picked according to the DPI [16:37] if you only ship one, better make it big :) [16:37] cool :) thanks. [16:38] mzanetti: not DPI, GU ;) [16:39] Saviq-uds: usually you set the GU according to the DPI... [16:39] mzanetti: not only [16:39] mzanetti: we take into account the distance eye-screen [16:39] yeah. true [16:39] anymore questions for us? [16:39] QUESTION: when talking about "moving to SVG", are we saying we'll be rendering them directly from SVGs or have an intermediate step of generating bitmaps according to GU? [16:39] QUESTION: How will design handle multiple screens [16:40] I have seen some Android phones with 2 screens [16:40] that's a question for Unity too ie. Saviq too [16:41] it's just like a desktop with 2 screens I'd say [16:41] CheeseBurg, mzanetti yep multi screen is coming up! [16:41] yes, though in terms of app support we don't support that yet [16:41] QUESTION: can you ship multiple SVGs with different set of details? [16:41] I'm not sure about Unity8 [16:41] otoh, on such devices you probably can't drag'n'drop an app from one to the other [16:41] christina:Cool, What is the timeline then? When can I build desktop apps with the SDK? [16:42] as the screens are not nex to each other but more frontside/backside? [16:43] KaleoF2, dont forget CheeseBurg's question :) [16:43] QUESTION: There is some JS API for Unity? Like the Webkit embedded for IOS app? [16:43] QUESTION: When will the Desktop SDK been ready? What is the timeline? [16:44] We should set a Work Item to investigate the Qt SVG renderer to determine if it is good enough or not, and if not, figure out what to do next [16:44] Nice! [16:44] KaleoF2: no, no follow-up ;) just thinking that if we select the smallest higher @ svg, that would be a good way to have different detail level from SVGs [16:44] Saviq: right that's what we do today [16:45] yes I was meaning that. [16:45] KaleoF2, M3kH we have JS API for unity (hud, ...) and will plan to expand on it durin 14.04 [16:45] KaleoF2, M3kH exposed to html5 apps (well ... to webviews basically) [16:46] greyback, do you have a related blueprint already?# [16:46] QUESTION: can we design simple widget in Unity to embed in desktop? like Plasma fopr kde? [16:47] christina: no actually [16:48] ok thanks. [16:48] Thanks guys, I am out of questions. [16:48] M3kH: we don't even know if there's going to be a "desktop" on unity8 on your PC :) [16:49] troll detected [16:49] KaleoF2: also, would we want Qt to support SVGZ (KDE has it I think) [16:49] me? [16:49] not really :) [16:49] Saviq-uds: what other Saviq is there? [16:49] Saviq-uds, no escape ;) [16:49] I just know it doesn't render our icons correctly [16:50] desktop mode on a tablet? [16:50] christina: sorry, what is "desktop mode on a tablet" exactly? Having mouse & keyboard paired to tablet? [16:51] greyback, ? [16:51] christina: jouni said it [16:52] Saviq-uds, ok but plasma is a style easy to convert from the pc view to the mobile/tablet right? should be easy to implement if you can embend HTML5 inside the Unity. [16:52] I think having desktop mode on tablets would be super useful [16:52] M3kH: it's not about it being easy or not, just whether our design caters for it [16:53] I'm a developer who carpools to work, I'd love to be able to load the Ubuntu SDK while on a tablet in the car. [16:53] christina: hmm, ok, news to me. Thanks for having that answered [16:53] micah2: while driving!? [16:53] while others are driving [16:53] M3kH: embedding arbitrary UIs is always tricky for different reasons [16:53] micah2: ;) [16:53] Saviq-uds: ok :) [16:54] o/ [16:54] thanks guys! [16:54] Thanks all! [16:54] Bye! [16:55] o/ [16:55] \m/ === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-design-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/design-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/19/%23ubuntu-uds-design-1.html === alex-abreu is now known as alex-abreu|afk [22:30] hi everyone