[13:43]  * popey gets tea and biscuits
[13:53] <mdeslaur> \o
[13:57]  * Ursinha waves
[13:58] <alecu> hola!
[13:58] <winael> Hi everyone
[13:58] <cheerockie> hi
[13:58] <balloons> howdy howdy
[13:58] <jono> hey all
[13:59] <karni> hi!
[13:59] <manornk> hey all
[13:59] <WebbyIT> o/
[13:59] <Aung> Yes?
[13:59] <DanChapman> \o
[13:59] <dobey-uds> no
[13:59] <bittin> o/
[14:00] <timchen119> o/
[14:00] <dholbach> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22027/intro-by-jono-bacon-keynote-by-mark-shuttleworth/
[14:01] <Saviq> jono, it's working :)
[14:01] <zyga> jono: live
[14:01] <xnox> 23s rolling.
[14:01] <layolayo> working
[14:01] <dholbach> woohoo
[14:01] <Ursinha> it's on
[14:01] <cheerockie> great
[14:01] <rickspencer3> o/ jono
[14:01] <ogra_> hey jono
[14:01] <tvoss_> jono o/
[14:01] <slavo> yes, yes
[14:01] <bittin> i can see you Jono =)
[14:01] <Azendale> I can hear you, now I just have to find the right tab
[14:01] <NuSuey> it's working :)
[14:01] <alecu> I can hear you fine
[14:01] <winael> Hello Jono
[14:01] <cheerockie> hello Jono, hello Mark
[14:01] <MaoKue> I can see u :)
[14:01] <MRgauss> test
[14:01] <manornk> Yeah, we see you
[14:01] <Lord_Ankalus> I see
[14:01] <NuSuey> hello mark & jono:)
[14:02] <netcurli> hello jono
[14:02] <xstoro> hello jeno its live
[14:02] <coen22> I can see you
[14:02] <zyga> \o/ :)
[14:03] <winael> Is someone is in charge of the minute of the plenary ?
[14:04] <Vipindev> I am who I am...
[14:04] <TReda> Hello everybody !
[14:06] <Vipindev> I cannot enter into pad
[14:06] <ravi> hi
[14:06] <Vipindev> Someone help me to enter into pad
[14:06] <karni> Vipindev: I suspect it is disabled for the keynote. I might be wrong, though.
[14:06] <Vipindev> Oh!
[14:06] <Vipindev> Anyway, no need right now..
[14:06] <ravi> i`ve a question?
[14:06] <zyga> karni: I can open the pad with the dedicated link
[14:06] <Ursinha> Vipindev, http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-intro-by-jono-bacon-keynote-by-mark-shuttleworth
[14:07] <karni> zyga: aha, thanks Ursinha
[14:07] <zyga> though pad seems to work for me now on other pages
[14:07] <zyga> so try that
[14:07] <Ursinha> no problem :) sometimes you need to click in the external notes window so it can log you in
[14:07] <Ursinha> and then it works
[14:07] <ravi> how to install devc6 lib in ubuntu???
[14:08] <zyga> is it just me or is that the old ubuntu logo in the icon?
[14:08] <zyga> the page icon that is
[14:08] <mhall119> ravi: this isn't a time for support
[14:08] <mhall119> ravi: try #ubuntu
[14:08] <ogra_> ravi, this kind of question should be better asked in #ubuntu
[14:08] <ravi> ok
[14:09] <WebbyIT> wow, what fantastic numbers!
[14:09] <Ursinha> lol
[14:10] <ogra_> hippie goat !
[14:10] <NikTh> Who is speaking now ? Mark or Jono ? Voices are too identical .. :-P
[14:10] <ogra_> jono
[14:10] <cwayne_> NikTh, jono
[14:10] <zyga> NikTh: jono
[14:11] <zyga> ogra_: hey, long time :)
[14:11] <ogra_> :)
[14:11] <WebbyIT> lol
[14:11] <bipul> Hello :d
[14:12] <ogra_> this slide kind of looked like a variation of the ballemr song
[14:12] <ogra_> *ballmer
[14:12] <manornk> jono: Can you answer me just one question. I am CEO at NGO, and want to promote Ubuntu, and tech through it. Is there any way to be licenced, by Ubuntu?
[14:13] <xnox> manornk: what do you want to do? in practice no license is required to use or promote ubuntu.
[14:13] <popey> manornk: this isn't really a Q&A session.
[14:13] <xnox> manornk: have you contacted your local Ubuntu LoCo team?
[14:14] <manornk> xnox: I want to promote, and kind of make goverment to change their OS. I need independent work, I need some CDs, some marketing materials, so we can work productivly
[14:15] <Guest82538> Marta
[14:15] <MooDoo> manornk: sounds like you need to contact your nearest loco team :)
[14:15] <xnox> manornk: get in touch with Ubuntu Community Council and chat to them. They can provide/approve CDs marketing materials, etc.
[14:16] <xnox> manornk: if your local LoCo team is approved, they may already have the CDs marketing materials, etc.
[14:16] <phano04> thanks
[14:16] <ogra_> manornk, http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[14:16] <NikTh> xnox: veriffied, not approved :-P
[14:17]  * Ursinha is waiting for the vegetables presentation
[14:17] <ubuntulovingplan> what is this about?
[14:17] <ubuntulovingplan> all about google hangouts?
[14:17] <popey> Ursinha: Tomatoes are not vegetables!
[14:17] <Ursinha> popey, lol
[14:17] <karni> ubuntulovingplan: The meetings are held on Google Hangouts
[14:17] <mhall119> they're virtually vegetables
[14:17] <popey> Bet he puts that picture of Tomatoes up again just to taunt me!
[14:17] <mhall119> and this is virtual UDS
[14:17] <MooDoo> ubuntulovingplan: http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[14:17] <ubuntulovingplan> ah thanks
[14:20] <manornk> I don't see button for hangout
[14:20] <popey> you will when the sessions start
[14:20] <med_> The plenary is closed
[14:20] <popey> but not for this plenary one
[14:20] <med_> (not open to joining)
[14:21] <bipul> when it will start?
[14:21] <Ursinha> bipul, intro keynote is on
[14:21] <nik90> bipul: check the schedule at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/2013-11-19/
[14:21] <nik90> bipul: the next session starts at 15:05 UTC
[14:21] <sabdfl> jono is mapping out the week, and the tools and the process, now
[14:21] <Ursinha> bipul, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4kHQeu4SJk
[14:21] <bipul> Thank you.
[14:21] <sabdfl> i'll be on shortly
[14:21] <sabdfl> we'll have some Q&A, pls address questions to dholbach
[14:22] <dholbach> hello hello :)
[14:22] <mhall119> dholbach: standard "QUESTION: " prefix applies?
[14:22]  * ogra_ waves to \sh
[14:22] <fagan> What a glorious beard
[14:22] <popey> +1
[14:23] <\sh> Hey Ogra :)
[14:23] <dholbach> mhall119, sure, or highlight me - both works for me :)
[14:23] <carakas> Wow that beard, didn't see that one comming
[14:23] <NuSuey> epic beard
[14:23] <dobey-uds> the painting behind, is very fitting with the beard
[14:23] <NikTh> woW.. What's with the beard ?
[14:23] <prasadhg> :D
[14:23] <AOLCraig> Movember
[14:23] <JackYu> :)
[14:23] <karni> I'm sure Mark appreciates the focus, guys..
[14:23] <med_> sabdfl has been in open source long enough that he's officially a gray beard now.
[14:23] <carakas> ow forgot about that :p
[14:25] <dholbach> any questions for Mark? ping me and I'll relay the question
[14:26] <zyga> video is off?
[14:26] <dholbach> zyga, not for me
[14:26] <Ursinha> zyga, only for a short moment but is back
[14:26] <sergiusens> Ursinha, your latency is better it seems :-)
[14:26] <mardy> dholbach: If I join the Hangout on Air and make some silly face, do I get fired? ;-)
[14:26] <Ursinha> sergiusens, what a miracle :P
[14:26] <zyga> yeah, it's back now
[14:27] <MaoKue> yeah
[14:27] <dholbach> mardy, I wouldn't try ;-)
[14:27] <mhall119> mardy: you're fired already just for thinking it
[14:27] <manornk> dholbach: Can you give me link, to connect to hangout
[14:27] <mardy> mhall119: lol (I hope)
[14:27] <med_> mardy, some of us just have  naturally funny faces, we can't help it.
[14:27] <dholbach> manornk, no, this is a "talk"
[14:28] <dholbach> manornk, please just let me know your question and I'll pass it on
[14:28] <sergiusens> manornk, or do you want the stream? -> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22027/intro-by-jono-bacon-keynote-by-mark-shuttleworth/
[14:28] <fagan> I really want a phone to play with :-/
[14:28] <manornk> Thanks, I'm good :D
[14:29] <dpm> \o/
[14:29] <karni> fagan: Buy one, just like the mac ;)
[14:29] <fagan> karni: hahah yeah but my nexus is just 1 version too low
[14:29] <JoshStrobl> Hello all!
[14:30] <fagan> It seem like such a waste
[14:30] <raja> when is the Ubuntu phone release?
[14:30] <mhall119> raja: it was 13.10
[14:30] <JoshStrobl> @raja: There already was one.
[14:30] <nik90> ooh core apps on the unity 7 :D
[14:30] <JoshStrobl> @raja Ubuntu Touch 1.0 was released with Ubuntu 13.10.
[14:31] <popey> nik90: ☻
[14:31] <raja> official phone
[14:31] <carakas> Are there plans for dualboot with android and still be able to update Ubuntu touch, because that doesn't work with MultiRom Tassadar
[14:31] <raja> i was asking
[14:31] <ogra_> raja, next will be in april ... but the quality is so good that you can also use the rolling devel release
[14:31] <mhall119> raja: if you're asking about actual hardware, there isn't any yet
[14:31] <Vipindev> Google+ Hangout why blocking?
[14:31] <dholbach> Vipindev, this is a talk
[14:31] <mhall119> Vipindev: this isn't a group session, it's a keynote
[14:31] <ogra_> Vipindev, it is a talk, not a hangout
[14:31] <dholbach> Vipindev, I'll pass on questions, which are asked here on IRC
[14:31] <fagan> Vipindev: well this is just a keynote
[14:31] <raja> i am waiting for Ubuntu edge
[14:32] <ogra_> Vipindev, ask your questions to dholbach and he will forward
[14:32] <cragdor> Has UbuntuTV been canned and will the phone follow. I have tried to checkout the code to work on a MultiSeat scenario to find that it only works with 12.04, and there is no build for newer desktops
[14:32] <fagan> raja: the edge failed the indiegogo
[14:32] <JoshStrobl> @raja There won't be one...at least not for a long while.
[14:32] <dobey-uds> dholbach: why does everyone want to get into the hangout with mark?
[14:32] <mhall119> raja: unfortunately that wasn't funded, so it isn't being built
[14:32] <sergiusens> raja, don't hold your breath
[14:32] <Vipindev> Ok. Got it.
[14:32] <raja> then how will i get one
[14:32] <mhall119> raja: you'll have to wait for a traditional OEM to build one
[14:32] <ogra_> raja, get a nexus 4 or 5 ...
[14:32] <fagan> raja: well there will be other hardware partners making phones
[14:32] <ogra_> raja, or wait
[14:32] <raja> i want official phone hardware for me and my family
[14:32] <JoshStrobl> @cragdor I imagine Ubuntu TV will be worked on after 15.x. First Unity 8 on phones (already exists), then tablets, then desktops, then TVs.
[14:33] <JoshStrobl> Seems like a logical step.
[14:33] <dholbach> dobey-uds, good one :)
[14:33] <JoshStrobl> @raja Well then you're S.O.L. for now.
[14:33] <raja> what?
[14:33] <JoshStrobl> sh** outta luck
[14:33] <mhall119> raja: he means you'll have to wait
[14:33] <dobey-uds> raja: the best supported device right now is the nexus 4
[14:33] <cragdor> @JoshStrobl : Just seems a shame since there has been considerable work on it for it to be shelved and left in the dark
[14:34] <dobey-uds> raja: so buy them and flash them with ubuntu if you want something now
[14:34] <raja> i can wait for even 1 year for ubuntu hardware
[14:34] <jdrab> yes
[14:34] <JoshStrobl> @cragdor Agreed. But Canonical needs focus. I don't think the t.v. would've been a good first step, particularly for Unity 8. Scaling down from up, rather than the other way around, doesn't work well.
[14:34] <dholbach> any more questions for Mark?
[14:35] <SuperMatt> yes! Is Mark taking part in Movember/No shave November right now?
[14:35] <SuperMatt> ;)
[14:35] <raja> is ubuntu touch 64 bit?
[14:35] <Personater2> i hope they will add support for Galaxy S Series... i really want ubuntu touch :/
[14:36] <cjwatson> raja: Not as yet
[14:36] <mhall119> raja: not yet
[14:36] <cragdor> @JoshStrobl : Well the good thing is theres always XMBC with ubuntu. Is there plan to improve MultiSeat scenarios with Ubuntu and Unity
[14:36] <JoshStrobl> To Mark: Can we get some sort of commitment from Canonical that they'll push more code upstream, particularly to communities like Debian.
[14:36] <JoshStrobl> @cragdor I have no idea.
[14:36] <jono> any questions, folks?
[14:36] <mhall119> JoshStrobl: name-drop dholbach in your questions, he's collecting them for mark
[14:36] <cjwatson> The work to make it 64-bit is probably fairly minimal (most packages are built, it'd just be a matter of removing a few hardcoded assumptions), though
[14:36] <jono> enter them with QUESTION
[14:37] <JoshStrobl> QUESTION: Can we get some sort of commitment from Canonical that they'll push more code upstream, particularly to communities like Debian.
[14:37] <dholbach> SuperMatt, JoshStrobl: noted
[14:37] <rbasak> JoshStrobl: we already do. Are you aware of http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_usertag.cgi for example? Can you quantify exactly what improvement you want?
[14:37] <SuperMatt> thanks :D
[14:37] <JoshStrobl> @dholbach Thanks =)
[14:37] <cragdor> Sorry @JoshStrobl i thought you were answer questions from the Canonical  side
[14:37] <ogra_> cjwatson, and a matter of getting HW to actually run 64bit touch on ;)
[14:37] <cjwatson> JoshStrobl: It's interesting you specifically mention Debian there, since in fact we push a very large amount of work to Debian ...
[14:37] <raja> is ubuntu touch available for nexus 5
[14:37] <JoshStrobl> @cragdor Nope, not answering questions on anyones part besides my own. Don't take my word as official.
[14:37] <cjwatson> ogra_: Right :-)
[14:38] <NikTh> QUESTION: The goals for Ubuntu 14.04 desktop edition. It will start with Unity 7 and Xorg, but will eventually switch to Mir and Unity 8 in a future point release ?
[14:38] <ogra_> raja, it will likely be soon ... we need to port the codebase to android 4.4 first
[14:38] <dholbach> NikTh, noted
[14:38] <cjwatson> (In fact, I'd say that the amount of work we push elsewhere is often underestimated because a lot of it goes via Debian as our immediate upstream)
[14:38] <JoshStrobl> @NikTh: Yes, it will eventually switch to Unity 8 and Mir. I believe they are aiming for a 15.X release.
[14:39] <xnox> NikTh: subsequent releases will, but 14.04.x point release will most lickely stay similar to 14.04.0 release.
[14:39] <ogra_> LXC is also a core part of the phone OS ;)
[14:40] <JoshStrobl> QUESTION: There hasn't been much improvement to Ubuntu One, in fact plugins for software like Nautilus have practically been dropped. Given how crucial cloud storage and cloud integration is to mobile, as well as improving convergence (cloud storage enables access to files on a multitude of devices), do you see some focus being spent on Ubuntu One in the near future?
[14:40] <JoshStrobl> ^^ Sorry my question was a bit long @dholbach
[14:40] <dholbach> JoshStrobl, noted
[14:41] <raja> which manufacture will release the Ubuntu touch hardware first?
[14:41] <cragdor> QUESTION: Is there plans for implementing a HomeServer version of the OS, to support the growing adoption of smaller light weight appliances.
[14:41] <JoshStrobl> @raja: Most likely no announcements at this moment in time.
[14:41] <NikTh> xnox: I'm not sure. The new HWE stack is very promising. Maybe they have plans for a complete switch to Mir in a future point release.. (e.g. 14.04.2 or .3 ..etc)
[14:41] <dholbach> cragdor, noted
[14:41] <xnox> NikTh: there is a session about HEW stacks for 14.04, join there to discuss what will / will not go into HWE stacks.
[14:43] <NikTh> xnox: I know. I'm not sure if I can make it.. :-(
[14:43] <dholbach> keep your questions coming
[14:44] <dholbach> just ping me
[14:44] <xnox> NikTh: it will be recorded and you can watch it & discuss it on mailing lists after the fact.
[14:44] <dholbach> or use QUESTION: so I can spot it better :)
[14:44] <MaoKue> guys, I want to install ubuntu touch on my samsung note 10.1
[14:44] <MaoKue> anyone can help ?
[14:44] <Ganesh> 123
[14:44] <JoshStrobl> @MaoKue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:44] <fagan> I really want to try out unity8 on the desktop too :)
[14:44] <ogra_> MaoKue, the people in #ubuntu-touch can point you to the right docs
[14:45] <MaoKue> @ogra thanks :)
[14:45] <chilicuil> MaoKue: or #ubuntu-touch
[14:45] <Vipindev> Another doubt : Is there any way to get Ubuntu phone in Symbian OS that has stopped by the Nokia
[14:45] <dholbach> HAHAHA
[14:45] <NikTh> xnox:  I didn't know about mailing lists and this "after the fact convesation".. thanks you pointed out.
[14:46] <rickspencer3> !
[14:46] <karni> :D
[14:46] <shan141> good
[14:46] <ogra_> oh my
[14:46] <fagan> Lol
[14:46] <Ursinha> lol
[14:46] <raja> does Ubuntu touch support android applications?
[14:46] <AOLCraig> lol
[14:46] <cjwatson> FYI there's likely to be a version of grub in trusty soonish that works on armhf, at least if the u-boot api is enabled; perhaps that will help with the dual-boot story
[14:46] <mhall119> somebody quote that and post it everywhere
[14:46] <tvoss_>  lol
[14:46] <Vipindev> Symbian Phone support in Ubuntu?
[14:46] <tvoss_> mhall119, +1 :)
[14:47] <jono> :-)
[14:47] <med_> Teen Wolf FTW.
[14:47] <jono> so I moisturize, deal with it.
[14:47] <jono> lol
[14:47] <cjwatson> bah, my connection dropped just as apparently Mark said something entertaining
[14:47] <fagan> Vipindev: there has been ports of some apps from symbian im pretty sure
[14:47] <med_> cjwatson, yes you did!
[14:47] <raja> question: does Ubuntu touch support android applications?
[14:47] <med_> catch the youtube at 47 minutes in
[14:47] <mhall119> raja: no
[14:47] <dholbach> raja, noted
[14:48] <ogra_> cjwatson, he promised android/ubuntu dual boot
[14:48] <cjwatson> med_: ta, will go back later :)
[14:48] <med_> maybe 45min.s
[14:48] <JoshStrobl> QUESTION: Is Mark going for a Richard Stallman look?
[14:49] <jcastro> sabdfl: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_usertag.cgi
[14:49] <jcastro> they're tracked, but they don't tell the whole story
[14:49] <dholbach> maybe we can get some more serious questions? :)
[14:49] <dobey-uds> who is continually joining and dropping out of the hangout?
[14:49] <JackYu> dholbach, a short question, is there no physical uds anymore?
[14:50] <cjwatson> in particular they don't tell the story of Ubuntu developers who (co-)maintain packages in Debian and commit to Debian-hosted version control directly or upload packages directly there
[14:50] <dobey-uds> Vipindev: is that you?
[14:50] <cjwatson> which accounts for a lot
[14:50] <xnox> jcastro: that's only a fraction of patches. A lot of them are not tagged to appear there.
[14:50] <dholbach> JackYu, not right now
[14:50] <cprofitt> QUESTION: does Ubuntu track upstream submissions that are not accepted by the upstream?
[14:50] <JoshStrobl> @dholbach I wasn't actually thinking you'd include that question.
[14:50] <Vipindev> Why don't Ubuntu get support for those old symbian phones, recently Nokia Pure 808 , so recycling won't happent fast?
[14:50] <cjwatson> cprofitt: I'm not aware that we do
[14:50] <phiphi> QUESTION: Will the touch (Ubuntu SDK) apps become available on the desktop in 14.04?
[14:50] <xnox> Vipindev: that would be near to imposible.
[14:51] <jcastro> xnox, yes, it's not accurate, I was just pointing out that we did try to measure that at some point.
[14:51] <ogra_> Vipindev, because these phones dont even remotely match the minimal HW spec
[14:51] <dholbach> phiphi, there's going to be a session about it this UDS
[14:51] <ogra_> Vipindev, it is also a lot of work to port to a new phone
[14:51] <jcastro> but I gave a talk at the debconf in NYC on why that wasn't working out, and the best thing for us to do is to just make working with Debian part of our ingrained culture.
[14:51] <cjwatson> jcastro: it's not a terrible measurement, I've found it useful in various contexts - we just need to advertise (as you did) that it's not complete
[14:51] <nik90> phiphi: this was addressed by mark at the begining
[14:51] <fagan> dholbach: social features are pretty important to the phone experience is there anything specific going on there that we can look forward to?
[14:51] <nik90> phiphi: but short answer 'yes'
[14:51] <cjwatson> I'd say short answer "to some extent"
[14:52] <dholbach> fagan, noted
[14:52] <cjwatson> there are difficulties around confinement
[14:52] <jcastro> cjwatson, it's a good response to "you don't do anything at all", but it's hard to explain a complex relationship in a tweet-like snippet
[14:52] <cjwatson> jcastro: Yeah
[14:52] <jono> Chirs, hey! :-)
[14:52] <SuperMatt> hmmm... homeserver does sound like a good idea
[14:54] <MainARTA> QUESTION: Is it going to be possibility to use Android app in Ubuntu One?
[14:54] <JoshStrobl> in ubuntu One?
[14:54] <JoshStrobl> wwat?
[14:54] <zyga> MainARTA: in ubuntu?
[14:54] <dholbach> MainARTA, that question was already asked - I'll give it to Mark in a sec
[14:54] <zyga> MainARTA: ubuntu one is already on android today
[14:54] <JoshStrobl> Do you mean on Ubuntu Touch?
[14:54] <nik90> or ubuntu touch
[14:54] <pritz> QUESTION: 1) Any new Core Apps planned for this cycle other than what was developed for 13.10 cycle?  Such as native Facebook, Twitter apps? 2)Any updates about Ubuntu mobile OEM?
[14:54] <MainARTA> sorry, ubuntu touch
[14:54] <raja> question: does Ubuntu touch support penetration testing?
[14:55] <sajjad> legally, will you abide by sanctions against Iran?
[14:55] <dholbach> pritz, noted
[14:56] <JoshStrobl> @sajjad They are required to abide by sanctions, regulations, laws. So yes, most likely.
[14:56] <mhall119> pritz: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22069/appdev-1311-reminders-app-planning/
[14:56] <KaleoF> there is a session about that: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22038/responsive-design/
[14:56] <cprofitt> thanks sabdfl
[14:56] <karni> thank you
[14:57] <Azendale> sajjad: How would that apply to ubuntu? What would abiding by sanctions against Iran look like?
[14:57] <sabdfl> my pleasure cprofitt!
[14:57] <JoshStrobl> thanks Mark and Jono!
[14:57] <ogra_> thanks sabdfl and jono !
[14:57] <shengyao> sabdfl: thanks
[14:57] <sabdfl> you're all welcome.  have a great uds!
[14:57] <karni> :)
[14:57] <chilicuil> my lag must be incredible long, I still can hear Mark answering questions xD
[14:57] <nik90> thnx for sabdfl and jono for the plenary..lokking forward to the app dev session
[14:57] <JoshStrobl> @chilicuil Yep, it's already done bud :D
[14:58] <nik90> sesions*
[14:58] <dobey-uds> Azendale: the laws are obviously different in different countries
[14:58] <dobey-uds> Azendale: if you want to know exactly, you'd need to ask lawyers
[14:58] <Vipindev> Ended...
[14:59] <chilicuil> ok, now it's done, thanks for the plenary!
[15:16] <justynt> working great
[15:17] <alannm37> ubuntu is too complicated (commands) and very incompatible (games), people don't want that and want ease of access. Main reasons why I wouldn't use ubuntu. Also dedicated graphics
[15:18] <justynt> lets talk about the elephant in the room, mir ;)
[15:21] <Sharib> hey
[15:22] <justynt> we need an environment, as well as a platform
[15:43] <keshav> hi
[15:46]  * keshav slaps keshav around a bit with a large trout
[15:46]  * keshav slaps mickeypash around a bit with a large trout
[15:46]  * keshav slaps zhangchao_UK around a bit with a large trout
[18:36]  * eeref slaps ZacharyIgielman around a bit with a large trout
[18:50] <jono> OveRisberg, you there?
[19:06] <pureCenor> yep you are on
[19:06] <pureCenor> yep you are on
[21:09] <fortinux> hi
[21:13] <Guest58762> whatever
[22:01] <Coolville> I can see