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| jamespage | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-servercloud-1311-openstack | 14:56 |
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| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-2 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Openstack Next Steps | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22048/servercloud-1311-openstack/ | ||
| zul | can someone take notes as well | 14:57 |
| jamespage | zul, can do - call me note and irc monitor | 14:58 |
| med_ | #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-2 | 14:58 |
| jamespage | gaughen, all set to start the hangout? | 14:58 |
| ttx | please relay any question you have for me here, as I'm multiplexing multiple meetings | 14:59 |
| gaughen | jamespage, I am, I am! | 14:59 |
| gaughen | ttx I'll try.. or jamespage will try. one of us will. | 14:59 |
| ttx | gaughen: welcome to the madhouse. | 14:59 |
| med_ | heh. | 14:59 |
| zul | *snicker* | 14:59 |
| med_ | ttx is the voice of experience. | 15:00 |
| med_ | And when he left the madhouse, he joined the caffeine fueled loony-bin of OpenStack | 15:00 |
| med_ | "OpenStack next steps" #1, fix UDS experience | 15:01 |
| jamespage | ttx, will do | 15:01 |
| med_ | yay | 15:01 |
| med_ | video is now standing by | 15:01 |
| gaughen | okay the url is posted | 15:01 |
| med_ | (better than the static ubuntu page) | 15:01 |
| jamespage | gaughen, whats the hangout URL? | 15:02 |
| jrwren | in the topic I thought. | 15:03 |
| gaughen | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpigpiskolsbukms1g6tdhf4?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:03 |
| med_ | you will need to reload to get the live | 15:06 |
| med_ | gaughen, is speaking | 15:06 |
| med_ | chuck zul i son | 15:07 |
| med_ | smoser rocks the Movember beard!!! | 15:07 |
| jamespage | ttx: heat is a core project now right? | 15:07 |
| med_ | pretty sure it is | 15:07 |
| ttx | it's an "integrated" project, which means it's released as part of openstack | 15:08 |
| jamespage | ttx, ack | 15:08 |
| ttx | "core" means so many different things I won't try to answer your question literally | 15:08 |
| med_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs | 15:08 |
| med_ | ^ that is the "official"-ish list afaik | 15:08 |
| ttx | it's definitely official and out of incubation :) | 15:08 |
| ttx | (and was part of Havana release) | 15:08 |
| adam_g | o/ | 15:08 |
| gaughen | hey adam_g! | 15:09 |
| med_ | and hey, iwasn't even at HK! | 15:09 |
| adam_g | do we want to refactor our nova-compute-* packages to avoid it being libvirt-centric? | 15:12 |
| jamespage | adam_g, got it | 15:15 |
| adam_g | the tests that run in gate or tempest are generic and should pass for any hypervisor or compute flavor | 15:16 |
| adam_g | jamespage, ^ | 15:16 |
| adam_g | interested downstreams could run those against their references and ensure the same functionality | 15:17 |
| adam_g | AIUI, at least | 15:17 |
| jamespage | adam_g, yep | 15:17 |
| med_ | do you want to ping ttx about that release schedule discussion? | 15:18 |
| med_ | +1 on upstream contributions | 15:19 |
| med_ | heh | 15:19 |
| med_ | manuals are painful | 15:20 |
| med_ | and easy commits | 15:20 |
| med_ | although sometimes they reject cleanup without a full re-write. | 15:20 |
| med_ | (They'd rather leave it wrong than update it partially.) | 15:20 |
| med_ | both havana and icehouse | 15:20 |
| Azendale | To be honest, as someone who's tried to deploy openstack using Juju, it's hard to know what to follow. The manuals I have seen are for manually configuring openstack, and so I didn't follow them because I was using juju | 15:22 |
| caribou | jamespage: I've deployed the last few released using the official document, maybe I can help somehow | 15:22 |
| adam_g | are we planning on only offering a trunk testing PPA for Trusy and not Precise? (maybe better discussed in cloud archive session) | 15:22 |
| adam_g | jamespage, +1 +1 +1! or at least get it managed via stackforge | 15:23 |
| caribou | there could be an alternative section in the ubuntu specific doc about deploying with juju | 15:24 |
| jrwren | Next Steps | 15:25 |
| jamespage | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs | 15:26 |
| jamespage | sorry - I dropped again | 15:28 |
| jamespage | adam_g, was that +1 for Juju/OpenStack docs into stackforge? | 15:28 |
| jamespage | or something else? | 15:29 |
| adam_g | jamespage, to some sort of upstreaming of the juju deployment guide | 15:29 |
| jamespage | adam_g, good | 15:29 |
| adam_g | smoser, i had assumed there was an FOSS backend driver available in the same way there are for cinder, neutron, etc | 15:30 |
| med_ | thanks all | 15:30 |
| zul | adam_g: i see us doing the trunk testing ppa again, precise is a bit more difficult i think with the dependencies | 15:31 |
| jamespage | no precise | 15:31 |
| adam_g | k | 15:32 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-2 to: Track: Cloud & Server | UV tools for 14.04 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22047/servercloud-1311-uvtools/ | ||
| gaughen | here's the hangout for the new session - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpijfhke7v3k0iqtp31262no?authuser=0&hl=en | 16:03 |
| === adam_g is now known as adam_g_afk | ||
| hallyn_ | rbasak: i think i'm actually more interested in testdrive supporting lxc, short-term :) | 16:09 |
| hallyn_ | smoser: I depend on eatmydata for btrfs containers | 16:11 |
| === jamespag` is now known as jamespage | ||
| rharper | rbasak: uvtool --meta-data patches =P | 16:21 |
| smoser | ? | 16:21 |
| rbasak | rharper: ah. Yes. | 16:21 |
| smoser | uvtool could use cloud-init-manual | 16:21 |
| rharper | smoser: send rbasak some patches to specify a metadata file as well as userdata | 16:22 |
| rharper | s/send/sent | 16:22 |
| smoser | ci-tool: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/ci-tool/view/head:/ci-tool | 16:22 |
| smoser | i'm not sure how i'd like to have that operate on disk images "directly" | 16:23 |
| smoser | and wheteher or not it should asupport seeding (ie, deprecating /replacing/using the cloud-localds , but ... some overlap). | 16:23 |
| rharper | is there a reason to clean images with uvtool? it already does a cow laer over the base, it could easily use --snapshot to make it completely throwaway | 16:24 |
| smoser | rharper, clean isn't relevant there, no.l | 16:25 |
| smoser | but if ci-tool is fronting cloud-localds, it might be useful. | 16:26 |
| gaughen | time to get ready for the next session | 16:57 |
| gaughen | g+ hangout for the openstack qa session - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjgo94vuqe47cki5nge9nfs?authuser=0&hl=en | 17:00 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-2 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/servercloud-2/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/19/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-2.html | ||
| gaughen | whoops, I'm a little early... next session in an hour. | 17:07 |
| gaughen | openstack qa. I'll leave the hangout up though so the url I pasted earlier is still the right one. | 17:07 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-2 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Openstack QA | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22049/servercloud-1311-openstack-qa/ | ||
| gaughen | okay the openstack QA session is in 1 minute | 18:04 |
| gaughen | same hangout from earlier | 18:04 |
| rharper | where's the pad link ? | 18:12 |
| jamespage | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-servercloud-1311-openstack-qa | 18:12 |
| rharper | jamespage: thanks, where would I normally find that? | 18:13 |
| jamespage | summit.ubuntu.com | 18:13 |
| context | i always get access not granted for pads today :-/ | 18:14 |
| context | maybe im not suppose to be in there though | 18:14 |
| smoser | context, you have to join ubuntu-etherpad | 18:15 |
| smoser | context, | 18:15 |
| smoser | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad | 18:15 |
| med_ | Is the upgrade story precise/havana to trusty/icehouse? | 18:26 |
| * med_ missed some of the hangout | 18:26 | |
| med_ | ^ jamespage ^gaughern | 18:26 |
| med_ | ^ jamespage ^gaughen | 18:26 |
| med_ | thanks. | 18:27 |
| med_ | so both upgrade paths tested/QAd | 18:28 |
| med_ | stepwise upgrades gaughen | 18:28 |
| marrusl | is testing against precise/trusty-backport-kernel possible? | 18:29 |
| med_ | do-release-upgrade from P/O to T/O isn't going to work | 18:30 |
| med_ | and there would be a lot of work to make that happen | 18:30 |
| med_ | is that a tttx/s0ren question | 18:30 |
| med_ | (erm, the do-release-upgrade, I'm lagging due to video lag) | 18:31 |
| med_ | a meta package that uniinstalls Essex | 18:31 |
| gaughen | med_, thanks, gotta get my terms down. | 18:32 |
| med_ | the path E-F-G-H->I is going to make a huge fanout in the available services. | 18:33 |
| med_ | Can you run I with just the services that were in E? | 18:33 |
| med_ | "work item" E-F-G-H->I path testing | 18:34 |
| zul | no one in their right mind should be running essex | 18:43 |
| gaughen | g+ hangout for the next session (Curtin) https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpj87ikgibh7u0jr5hjmpcb4?authuser=0&hl=en | 18:59 |
| gaughen | starts in 6 minutes | 18:59 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-2 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Curtin | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22044/servercloud-1311-curtin/ | ||
| smoser | going live... | 19:06 |
| smoser | live | 19:06 |
| bjf | searching with google and wiki.ubuntu.com turns up no documentation links for curtin | 19:16 |
| smoser | http://launchpad.net/curtin | 19:19 |
| smoser | make doc | 19:19 |
| bjf | LOL! | 19:19 |
| stokachu_vuds | only issue i ran into was user preseeds via curtin | 19:24 |
| Azendale | it's off by default in saucy, but you can mark a node to use it | 19:25 |
| bjf | new kernels every 3 weeks | 19:26 |
| rbasak | rharper: each sync creates a blocking barrier for a very linear dpkg | 19:31 |
| smoser | o/ | 19:33 |
| stokachu_vuds | pika! | 19:34 |
| stokachu_vuds | di supports user preseeds {arch}_{subarch}_{nodeblabla} | 19:34 |
| stokachu_vuds | :D | 19:35 |
| stokachu_vuds | is basically configuring different installs per node | 19:35 |
| stokachu_vuds | yea im still on the fence about this | 19:36 |
| stokachu_vuds | better documentation of the states (early_commands, network_commands, etc) | 19:38 |
| stokachu_vuds | may be best to wait until the code is in a stable release | 19:39 |
| smoser | stokachu_vuds, fwiw, 13.10 is a "stable" release | 19:45 |
| stokachu_vuds | ah, was just basing it on version | 19:45 |
| stokachu_vuds | 0.1.0 | 19:45 |
| smoser | is that what i named it? | 19:46 |
| smoser | usually i start with 0.3 :) | 19:46 |
| stokachu_vuds | lol | 19:46 |
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