[00:17] Just wondering, is there a way to adjust item spacing in Thunar? [00:29] There's no HDMI audio. Any suggestions? [00:36] CountryfiedLinux, in pavucontrol, choose the output device to hdmi for the particular sound stream you want to listen [00:37] Mapley: I haven't tried it but there's a thread on archlinux that might solve this for you. Check out: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1033063#p1033063 [00:39] CountryfiedLinux: Also, older kernels didn't have it implemented if using radeon based graphics. There's a boot option you can add to grub, depending on kernel version. [00:39] GridCube, audio still doesn't come out [00:39] :/ i had to change cpus because my old one died on me, this one im using now had a working internal audio device, however after installing my vga card the system only recognizes the hdmi sound output and not the standard one [00:41] Hrm, I'll check it out. [01:19] no luck [01:19] :( [02:17] hey can anyone help with choppy sound on a dell inpiron mini netbook, can anyone advise? [02:24] JDLafk: does the choppiness change when you move the lid? (the wires live in the hinge, they tend to go, I had choppy, now no more sound on my dell mini) [02:25] oh lame I do have a busted hinge, but it never affected sound before I installed xubuntu this afternoon [02:26] that's all I've got [02:33] hi, i'm having an issue on xubuntu 13.10. i rebooted and suddenly my resolution is 640x480 on a single display out of three and nvidia-settings says that i do not have their driver in use. nvidia-319 is the driver i installed and removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and running nvidia-xconfig as root did not solve the issue. [02:33] audrey: i would probably start by booting an older kernel [02:33] don't have one [02:34] actually i might [02:34] gonna try that [02:37] no luck [02:38] any other ideas guy i was just talking to? [02:39] audrey: i would reinstall the driver.. i would try other kernels.. i would test with a live CD.. i would test as a different user [02:39] reinstalling the driver did nothing [02:40] audrey: ok.. thats one [02:40] audrey: did you try *all* the kernels in your grub? does a live CD work? did you try as another user? [02:40] audrey: did you try setting the resolution? [02:40] the nvidia driver isn't in use [02:40] need to figure that one out [02:41] audrey: got it.. the kernel you are using may not allow it to be loading [02:41] how do i check? [02:41] pleia2, thank you anyway [02:42] audrey: i can tell you how i check.. i check a live CD to see that the hardware is functioning properly.. i check as another user to make sure the user config is not the issue.. i test with the vesa driver specified in xorg.conf or whatever [02:44] holstein: http://p.pomf.se/2113 [02:45] audrey: how is it with the live CD? [02:45] works [02:59] i'm out of ideas holstein [03:00] audrey: i know, these days, since it takes about 8 minutes to reinstall, i usually dont hesitate.. but, i feel you could probably sort this out [03:09] holstein: [03:09] i updated my headers then purged nvidia-current then reinstalled them then ran nvidia-xconfig then grub-update and it fixed the issue after a reboot. [03:10] audrey: congrats [03:10] i is smart === jono is now known as ubuntu-goldfish [04:27] Hi, can someone recommend an up to date guide for manually installing Xubuntu on a UEFI system with LVM? [04:27] anyone had any luck using /etc/vnc/xstartup to start xfce4? [04:29] I used to know how to do manual installs, but so much has changed now with UEFI, LVM, BtrFS. [04:30] I've tried and failed to figure it out by looking at docs for the different components. [04:31] Beyond me - sorry man [04:36] No apologies :) Unless you work for the people who designed UEFI lol. I'm wondering if I should just forget about btrfs for now and let the auto installer do it's thing. [04:40] xubuntu602: Guessing you can't, or don't want to, use legacy BIOS mode? [05:39] hello [06:19] I am using an AMD a6 apu based pc, using hdmi output to a t.v. for a monitor, and sound is not working. I am unable to choose HDMI as an audio output option. How can this be resolved? [08:31] Hello im having trouble installing a network printer via the gui / have tried to install the driver from the epson website in the terminal but get dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of epson-inkjet-printer-201110w: epson-inkjet-printer-201110w depends on lsb (>= 3.2); however: Package lsb is not installed. [08:32] tired to sudo apt-get install the lsb package but says this is not possible [08:32] any ideas ? [08:32] !info | lsb [08:32] 'lsb' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable [08:32] hmmm, hang on a sec [08:33] lsb shows as available in the main repos. [08:33] on 12.04 [08:33] and 13.10 [08:33] just installed it ;) [08:34] umm maybe its my fat fingers on the keyboard ! [08:34] pressing the wrong buttons [08:34] Apparently I don't need it for my HP printers ... [08:34] ill try again should be a "sudo apt-get install ?" [08:34] na, I use hplip [08:34] AndyNewbie, try apt-cache search lsb first [08:35] sadly the HP printers so far dont do A3 scanning [08:36] umm shows lots of differing lsb's im assuming the one I need to install is the lsb-printing module [08:36] what size is A3? [08:37] 11 x 16 inch I think [08:37] old money sizes ! [08:37] I think HP makes one that large. not sure. USA "B" size [08:38] well in home sized inkjet so far they dont (home office) in the big lasers they do [08:39] get the following when installing the lsb -printing package :- [08:39] andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install lsb-printing Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies. epson-inkjet-printer-201110w : Depends: lsb (>= 3.2) but it is not going to be installed lsb-printing : Depends: lsb-core (>= 4.1+Debian11ubuntu4) but [08:40] AndyNewbie, there it is: sudo apt get -f install [08:40] will do [08:40] umm does not like that either [08:40] like this one? staples.com/HP-Officejet-7110-Wide-Format-ePrinter/product_142140?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:142140&srccode=cii_17588969&cpncode=33-226352368-2 [08:43] here's an All-in-one: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424813,00.asp [08:43] andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~/Downloads$ sudo apt-get -f install lsb-printing Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies. epson-inkjet-printer-201110w : Depends: lsb (>= 3.2) but it is not going to be installed lsb-printing : Depends: lsb-core (>= 4.1+Debian11ubuntu4) [08:44] sadly I already have the epson - it was working perfectly until "upgraded" to the latest version of xbuntu ........ [08:44] also tried sudo apt-get -f install lsb-core this also did not work [08:47] somwhat annoying as need to print some drawings for a meeting with an architect tomorrow grr ...... looks like somthings been changed [08:47] in the update [08:54] I think im going to have to roll back to the lts version of xbuntu [08:55] ahh found this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/lsb/4.1+Debian11ubuntu4 [08:55] why? [08:55] cant get the lsb package to install to allow me to use the previously working ok epson printer [08:56] AndyNewbie: its weird.. it should work on the newest versions too.. [08:57] I guess so (my linux knowledge is somwhat limited !) [08:57] im just running out of time to mess around with the PC [08:58] AndyNewbie: and your epson printer doesnt have driver for linux?.. [08:58] yes it does but will not install due to Lsb depednacy which I cant seem to satisfy [08:59] AndyNewbie: then.. youre right.. :( [08:59] somthing has changed to this package from the previous version of xbuntu [09:00] andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~/Downloads$ sudo dpkg -i epson-inkjet-printer-201110w_1.0.0-1lsb3.2_i386.deb (Reading database ... 178354 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace epson-inkjet-printer-201110w 1.0.0-1lsb3.2 (using epson-inkjet-printer-201110w_1.0.0-1lsb3.2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement epson-inkjet-printer-201110w ... cups stop/waiting cups start/running, process 4172 dpkg: dependency pr [09:09] you get it working? [09:09] noo [09:10] found the lsb 4.1 package on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/lsb/4.1+Debian11ubuntu4 [09:11] not sure to install it thou ! [09:11] 64bit? [09:12] AndyNewbie, sudo dpkg -i packname.deb [09:12] pretty sure im not on the 64 bit version .......... [09:13] is there a quick command to find out which version im on at that could be it ! [09:13] *as [09:14] dpkg --print-architecture [09:17] amd64 or i386? [09:18] believe im on i386 - how owuld I check (sorry for being a noob) [09:18] ! [09:18] dpkg --print-architecture [09:18] doh yes i386 [09:19] (red face) [09:19] no worries, we were ALL noobs at one time ;) [09:19] tried to install the lsb package but downloads as a tar when opening lots of sub direcotries files not a single .deb [09:20] because it's source code. not a .deb install [09:20] keep promising to compelet the online course I paid for about linux but seem to spend my life working on windows (day job is suppling real windows to building sites ...) [09:21] doh again ... [09:23] andrew@andrew-ThinkPad-X61:~$ apt-cache search lsb libpam-systemd - system and service manager - PAM module alien - Convert and install rpm and other packages insserv - boot sequence organizer using LSB init.d script dependency information lsb - Linux Standard Base 4.1 support package lsb-base - Linux Standard Base 4.1 init script functionality lsb-core - Linux Standard Base 4.1 core support package lsb-cxx - Linux Standard Bas [09:23] !paste [09:23] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:23] seems to be avliable [09:23] AndyNewbie: :D :D you dont need some course.. you know how to join this IRC, thats all :)) [09:23] LOL [09:23] hehe thanks :) [09:24] (feel abit lazy thou .....) [09:24] but, WE don't offer refunds ;) [09:25] :D [09:26] for me its like.. really step forward.. I was a windows user for about 15 years.. and now couple weeks ago I switch on xubuntu on my netbook.. its really great.. :)) [09:27] I started with Ubuntu 2-1/2 years ago. Found Xubuntu, never looked back LOL [09:27] ObrienDave: Xubuntu is great for slow computers I think.. :) [09:28] but some things like.. hibernate mode etc. I must figure out.. [09:28] even better for FAST computer LOL [09:28] quick ask: its possible to instal microsoft silverlight on my xubuntu? :D [09:29] through WINE, yes [09:29] well.. [09:29] I will try it [09:31] only time I use WINE is when I want to watch NetFlix [09:31] PiiiRKO: there is a netflix app [09:32] you need the compholio PPA for that [09:33] PiiiRKO: http://linuxg.net/how-to-use-netflix-on-ubuntu-13-04/ [09:33] PiiiRKO: or you can use pipelight ( http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html ) [09:33] * cfhowlett "compholio" ? Really? [09:34] well, that's what I use for netflix ;P [09:34] I dont want it for netflix.. in my country.. its not supported.. [09:34] I want it for some videos on website.. [09:35] it offers me alternative.. some MONO program.. [09:35] PiiiRKO: then use pipelight (second link i posted) [09:35] never heard about it.. [09:35] baizon: I will try it.. [09:36] PiiiRKO, firefox + Media Hint addon = Hulu [09:37] cfhowlett: yes.. I use it for pandora :)) [09:37] that pipelight is quite big.. 160 mb :D [09:38] PiiiRKO, if you like Pandora, try Pithos. no ads ;)) [09:40] ObrienDave: I downloaded warez APK of pandora.. no skips.. no ads.. and I am using it with combination of orbot on my android phone :D === burn_ is now known as burn [09:40] nevermid.. it looks.. it doesnt work.. for this link http://ostatni.tvcom.cz/Zapas/28833-Kiki-Maki-Posezoni-tiskova-konference.htm === Guest10102 is now known as mapito [09:45] any ideas guys? :/ [09:47] I am idiot.. it works!! :D [09:47] thanx baizon! [10:14] guys?.. [10:14] how to lock our xubuntu pls?.. [10:15] PiiiRKO, lock screen [10:15] click your user name, lock screen [10:27] PiiiRKO, ctrl+alt+delete should also lock the screen [10:28] cub: thank you! :) [10:30] yay got the printer working ... no idea how ..... but still it works ! [10:30] !yay [10:30] Glad you made it! :-) [10:30] anyone happen to have installed mariaDB from source? cant figure out what im doing wrong :) [10:30] mapito, no, only from the repos [10:31] ah right thanks for the reply [10:31] really must learn more about the terminal messages but checking the lsb package in the software centre seems to have done the trick as it offered to repair pre installing more software [10:31] really quite annoying...I've followed the docs on the official site and googled for installing from source..but still getting problems;( [10:31] thanks for the pointers thou chaps as feel the attempt at installing lsb had an effect [10:32] glad we could help [10:33] ps I agree with you chaps ive an old thinkpad x61 and xbuntu runs a treat on it much faster than the works laptop (newer with windows vista urrgh and broken windows install ! ) [10:34] AndyNewbie: for me it works like a charm.. i own Asus 1005PXD.. and for this poor atom its best solution :) [10:34] ive got xubuntu on an old dell dual core desktop:D [10:35] :D [10:35] you have at least DUAL core! :D [10:36] and 4gb of ram ..... [10:36] struggles abit with hd video editing thou lol [10:37] need a new rig for that [10:37] ive got 2gig of ram on my old desktop i think [10:38] gahh seriously this is so freaking annoying..w [10:38] hate it when you just cant get things to work and cant find the help [10:38] any one used that new editor lightworks ? [10:39] have edited hd on this with kdenlive but a bit of a pain lining up the seperate audio track when it stutters so ! [10:39] i guess its no surproise everything mentions using apt/yum [10:40] must be a pain doing it from source.followed step by step and get errors which dont make sense :) [10:41] mapito, why not install the mariaDB PPA? would save a BUNCH of hassle [10:42] http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mariadb_5.5 [10:43] PPA? [10:43] i just wanted to try it from source to be honest [10:43] anyways.. is there some idea how to run CS 1.6 in resolution 1024 600? :D [10:43] getting used to compiling manually and that [10:43] ahh cs..not played cs for years [10:44] always good to learn new things, for sure [10:44] mapito: ye.. its great game.. but.. I play only OTTD and sometimes this.. [10:44] OTTD? [10:44] it is great [10:44] Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe :D [10:44] I love this game.. :D [10:44] i remember playting it at college during lunch on the network in the computing room [10:44] ahh [10:45] cs? [10:45] mapito: we play Starcraft in school.. :D [10:45] great times.. :D [10:45] ObrienDave: yea.. CS.. but.. i dunno how to change resolution to 1024 600. now it runs 800 600 [10:45] what's CS? [10:45] ObrienDave: seriously?.. [10:46] ah [10:46] LOL [10:46] ObrienDave could be real old [10:46] hey, i'm an OLD fart. cut me some slack [10:46] im surprised you know cs if you're still in school [10:46] ;p [10:46] CounterStrike [10:46] ObrienDave: same thoughts :DD [10:46] :D [10:47] I had a FORTRAN class in 1971. most of you weren't even THOUGHT of yet LMAO [10:47] heh correct [10:47] we did delphi in my computing class..at colege [10:47] ugh [10:47] is delphi even around? [10:47] lol [10:48] :D [10:48] ever been to the night gym near Karlovy Zane PiiiRKO ? [10:48] lol [10:49] mapito? Karlovy Lazne you mean? :D [10:49] ah [10:49] yes [10:49] sorry [10:49] i forgot the name [10:49] near the water [10:49] guys, there is #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatting :) [10:49] sorry [10:49] I was there.. but.. only for threatment.. [10:49] not for bodybuilding.. :D [10:49] mapito: how did you know I am from Czech republic? :O [10:49] join xubuntu-offtopic [10:49] ok :D === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [12:12] hello? [12:13] I cant upload my wallapaper [12:13] Yinon, yes? [12:13] hey, nice to meet you [12:13] meaning? [12:13] so [12:13] Yinon, upload wallpaperto what? [12:13] you too [12:13] I entered the link [12:13] to the 14.04 [12:13] about Xubuntu [12:14] which ask the community to suggest wallpapers [12:14] !enter [12:14] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [12:14] Yinon, and the link is? [12:14] what do you mean? [12:15] first, I came to here: http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-04-default-wallpapers/ [12:15] Where and how to submit [12:15] You can submit your wallpapers by uploading them to the Xubuntu Wiki. You’ll need an Ubuntu Single Sign-On account to be able to attach wallpapers. [12:15] then I pressed on the link down there of submissions [12:15] I upload [12:16] But, I can only see it in the uploading page [12:16] not in the main page, and also I cant add details to my wallapaer [12:16] only change file name [12:17] did one of you tried it? [12:17] yinon: this channel is for fixing ubuntu. uploading is something to discuss with the xubuntu page managers [12:17] #xubuntu [12:17] #xubuntu-dev [12:17] Where should I go? [12:18] Yinon, look on the page for support options ... [12:19] Yinon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpContents [12:20] I will try, but are you sure you dont have the answers for me? [12:21] Yinon, sounds like a wiki issue so see the wiki instructions ... [12:21] But im not the manager of the site... [12:21] ah! [12:21] You DO have a login, right? [12:21] I dont wanna to create a web page, just submit a wallapaer [12:22] I have a login to the site [12:22] Yinon, you must have an ubuntuone login to upload to the page ... [12:22] I have, I logged in [12:23] but submitting right is just complexed [12:23] it's just not simple as I expected [12:24] Yinon, and that's why they supply the help menus. All those other photographers before you managed, so I'm confident you can do it as well. [12:25] Are you sure that I need to edit the page by my own? learn how to work with it while all I wanted is suggesting an image to xubuntu 14.04? [12:25] What happened to the "upload" button, give a title and have fun? [12:26] Yinon, it's a wiki. that's how they work. [12:27] It's still very confusing for uploading an image, no one is showing how to suggest a picture, just saying they want [12:28] Yinon, your feelings are valid. Nothing I can do, but the xubuntu team needs to know. Send them a message. (Of course, they won't change anything for THIS development cycle ...) [12:29] OK, but, where can I suggest them improving the way of wallpaper-suggestions ? [12:32] Yinon, I'd suggest you use some of the options on http://xubuntu.org/help/ [12:33] That how I came here... , oh wait, just changing the title of this IRC chat to "#xubuntu-offtopic" ? [12:36] Yinon, please take the time to learn how to add an image to the wiki page [12:36] Yinon, there are plenty of examples, you should be able to figure it out [12:37] I'm breaking my head now, didnt expect that at all [12:37] Yinon, no you have join the other channel. /join #xubuntu-offtopic [12:37] How do I move to off-topic?? [12:37] Yinon, for the record, editing the wiki for your entry is about as difficult as editing a libreoffice writer document [12:38] Yinon, /join #xubuntu-offtopic [12:38] no, maybe for a user who already did it once [12:38] Im there [14:30] Thank you all, I made it ^^ [14:32] uploaded? [14:32] yes, and the guys in off-topic also helped editing it right [14:32] how is it now? [14:32] niiiiiiiice [14:34] Thanks! [14:34] Glad you like it ^^ [14:35] Im the pixel art. right? maybe you mean the octopus (: [14:37] xu bun tu [14:42] ? [14:42] I had a teacher with the name Audrey [14:42] she was french/canadian [14:42] !offtopic [14:42] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [14:42] hey knome [14:42] oopsi [14:42] well, no one is talking here anyway// [14:43] whatsoever, please take it to -offtopic [14:43] ok [14:43] Yinon: i live in arkansas [14:44] off topic! just kidding (: nice [16:56] Hello people, i have a problem with installing MATLAB on my xubuntu 13.10-laptop. It seems it doesnt support the Consistent Network Device Naming [16:56] Is there any easy/safe way to disable this and return to the older standard of naming it? [16:58] i used to know how to disable it on gentoo [16:58] hannesenator: did you manually enable the new device naming? it's not enabled for me by default on 13.10 [16:59] I guess i rather want to disable the new naming stuff [17:02] hannesenator: you should be able to google how to disable it it's not hard [17:03] I threw a few queries at google, wasnt sure on what i wanted to search for though [17:05] hannesenator: disabling new device naming scheme or whatever it wascalled [17:06] Will do another round :) [17:06] ty [17:18] Solved it, wasnt even about the naming convention (it doesnt seem to be installed at all). Was just a rather silly case of renaming the network device [17:21] hello, I recently installed xfce on top of a server os...after a long while the screen displays the log in and after logging in my running apps are all shutdown...it is like I rebooted...how can I disable this behavior? [17:27] could be power manager and/or screensaver settings [17:28] hmmm....ok....It is not obvious when I look around...I have the same desktop on another pc and I don't get this behavior. [18:01] I am running xubuntu 13.10 from a USB pen drive and would like to continue running that way. Is there a way to disable the delayed startup process/display screen showing "Try xubuntu". I always want to run it from pendrive not install to hard drive. So I always need to select "Try xubuntu" [18:02] xubuntu480, you are running a "live" system disc, you need to burn the ISO to a DVD and install it to the USB [18:02] Why not use one usb to install onto anothere [18:02] What ObrienDave said [18:03] That's how I installed LinuxMint on my netbook. Used a 4gb usb to install it on a 16gb micro stick. [18:03] you should be able to do that. other users have had trouble going from USB to USB [18:04] Thanks Dave. What is the min pendrive. I have a 16GB but would prefer to use smaller. [18:04] 4GB would be the minimum. but that would NOT give you "persistence" [18:04] I need persistence so sounds like 8 GB min [18:05] yes, no smaller than 8 [18:05] I can't run the ISO from HD and install to USB? I wonder why [18:05] the 4gb was just for the live session. I wasn't going for persistence [18:06] The 16gb has the full install [18:06] I use a few 16s for various pen drive installs [18:06] I hardly ever use DVD anymore [18:07] you should boot the LIVE from DVD to install to USB stick. easiest way I know of [18:08] OK... I'll run with that. My DVD recorder sits in a closet for only occassional use. : ) [18:08] I have a few DVD-RWs I use for installs ;) [18:09] Thanks much... I am new to linux/xubuntu. Was hoping to get Plex going but not as easy as I hoped. [18:09] let us know how it went :)) [18:10] I have a linux based NAS (Synology) that is too underpowered to support a Plex module, so trying to access it from another computer running Plex. [18:10] not familiar with plex, sorry [18:11] Thanks so much for the generous help! cheers [18:11] welcome [18:24] hello [18:24] greetings [18:25] Hello, I'm having a problem with ubuntu apport... It is not sending bugs to launchpad anymore... normally it open firefox at launchpad, but just 2 week it does not do it [18:25] ops.. [18:26] Hello, I'm having a problem with ubuntu apport... [18:27] maybe no bugs to report? [18:27] no... [18:27] apport pop-up, then I click to send information, but firefox is not opening... [18:28] ahh, not sure if it bypasses firefox. mine never opened firefox [18:28] just now, I have an problem with xorg, [18:28] but normally, it open Firefox to you file a bug... [18:29] ok, i'll take your word on that. not sure really [18:29] or, at least, do an "this bug is affecting me too" [18:32] sergiobenrocha2: what version of Xubuntu? [18:32] I've been getting xorg crashes after login. But Apport seems to send the reports. [18:33] I assume not the dev version, afaik it is disabled on release [18:33] xubuntu 13.10 [18:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How_to_enable_apport [18:34] I know it is currently disabled in 14.04 - my crashdb.conf has 'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package'], without the # and doesn't work either [18:35] humm, it's right, i tried in ubuntu 14.04 daily build and it not work too [18:36] and adding the # allows apport to work here with the # [18:36] but there is a reason that it's disabled - so read the wiki :) [18:39] humm, ok [18:41] but i don't care about "sensitive data"... [18:41] i want to help the ubuntu development, such others apps [18:41] sergiobenrocha2: that's fine - I'm just saying - you do what you want with it :) [18:42] are there other problem? [18:43] sergiobenrocha2: I'd guess that Number 2 in that section is what they are really driving at - it's entirely possible that even though you send the bug report nothing will be done with it [18:46] humm... so report bug in a stable release is no usefull? But, bug report could be usefull for a next release of ubuntu, like 14.04... or not? [18:48] for example, xubuntu 14.04 will use xfce 4.10 probably, and I'm using xubuntu, and I saw many bugs and inconsistent things in GUI... [18:48] sorry for my english... [18:51] your english is fine :) [18:53] but so... is usefull report but here at least for thigs go fix in the next release? such xubuntu 14.04? [18:54] if you want to help with 14.04 testing that's great - but it'd be better to do it from 14.04, maybe a vm or something [18:56] but the is trusty's daily build [now] really 14.04? I say that because it seems it is 13.10 with "proposed" repository enabled... [18:56] *but is the [...] [18:56] 14.04 is #ubuntu+1 [18:57] is this a irc channel? [18:57] for 13.10 and below [18:58] #ubuntu+1 for all 14.04 [18:58]