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Nothing_MuchSo I hear now that PowerVR is supported under Mir, would it be possible to utilize libhybris on the desktop?02:05
augiehello02:06
Nothing_MuchHowd-02:06
Nothing_Muchy02:06
Nothing_MuchSo I hear now that PowerVR is supported under Mir, would it be possible to utilize libhybris on the desktop?02:07
Nothing_MuchOh oops, meant to edit that02:07
Nothing_MuchBut yeah, if anybody's here, lemme know if it's possible, since I have an SGX 544 on this desktop here.02:08
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RAOFNothing_Much: Do you have an android build for your desktop?02:47
Nothing_MuchRAOF: nope, but I have the "system" folder from an Android build02:47
RAOFI don't know if that's enough, but I guess you probably could bring up Unity8 on that.02:49
Nothing_MuchRAOF: How would I go about doing that on the desktop? I wanna see if it's possible with Wayland or Mir.02:50
Nothing_MuchOn a desktop02:51
RAOFProbably you'd install libhybris* and unity802:51
Nothing_MuchOh.. I thought I did that once02:52
RAOFWhat didn't work? :)02:52
RAOFAnd what did it say? :)02:52
Nothing_MuchHang on, actually it wasn't unity8, it was the unity-effects thing02:53
Nothing_Muchxserver-xorg-video-mir02:53
RAOFxserver-xorg-video-mir doesn't exist; I'm not sure what you're referring to there.02:55
Nothing_Muchxserer-xorg-mir02:55
Nothing_Much*server02:55
Nothing_MuchBah02:55
Nothing_MuchHang on02:55
RAOFYou *might* be referring to xserver-xorg-xmir, which won't work on anything but nouveau, intel, or radeon.02:55
RAOFAh, yeah.02:55
RAOFNo X for you on Android.02:55
Nothing_MuchYou mean armhf?02:55
RAOFWell, I mean ‘there's currently no way to go from Android drivers to X’02:56
Nothing_MuchI'm on an Armhf PC here and I'm tryin' to get some 3D acceleration.02:56
RAOFThere are armhf platforms for which we have X drivers, but not IIRC your SGX.02:56
Nothing_MuchVia libhybris02:56
RAOFYou should be able to get Unity8 and anything that runs under Unity8 running (so, all the Ubuntu Touch apps, basically).02:57
RAOFYou're not going to be able to get anything that requires X to work, though.02:57
Nothing_MuchNot even XMir? :(02:57
RAOFIndeed, not XMir.02:57
RAOFBecause XMir (currently) works by augmenting the existing X drivers, which we can do because we've got the source for them.02:58
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RAOFIt's possible to write an XMir driver that will work on an arbitrary (EGL/GLES-supporting) Mir, but we've not yet done that.02:58
Nothing_MuchHmm..02:59
Nothing_MuchMy computer uses an SGX 54402:59
Nothing_MuchSo I'd have to wait for a driver for XMir?03:01
RAOFYeah, if you want to use accelerated X11 stuff.03:05
RAOFAnd even then you're not going to get GLX/OpenGL; your hardware doesn't actually support it.03:06
RAOFYou *will* get EGL/GLES, instead.03:06
RAOFWhich is fine.03:06
RAOFAs long as what you want to run supports GLES.03:07
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AskUbuntuI need RSN for ad hoc connection for my Nexus 7. Do Ubuntu for Nexus 7 implement this feature? | http://askubuntu.com/q/37964803:11
TechieElfCan someone help me with enabling GSM? I know I need to check if ofono and rild are communicating but what is the next logical step?03:15
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Nothing_MuchRAOF: I heard that the SGX 544 PowerVR supports OpenGL up to 2.1 I think03:25
RAOFOh, well. If it does (and has Android drivers for same), then you'd get GL.03:26
Nothing_MuchAh alright03:29
TechieElfHashcode can you tell me where you left off with the XT907 port? I'm not sure where to start03:47
Crimson_Roguehey, I have a question.. where can I find a list of currently supported phones?03:50
RobbyFgalaxy nexus/nexus403:50
RobbyFhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices03:50
Crimson_Rogueyes, but there's a differen't list...03:50
TechieElfWhat list might that be?03:52
RAOFCrimson_Rogue: Are you thinking of this list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working.2C_but_not_available_from_cdimage.ubuntu.com ?03:57
Crimson_Rogueyes RA0F, thank you03:58
RobbyFsamething as i listed03:59
TechieElfYeah, I agree with RobbyF04:01
jalcinewould it be possible to swap shells on Ubuntu Touch?04:36
jalcinelike from Unity to something else?04:37
MiaHello?04:40
Miahello?04:42
jalcine!ask04:50
ubot5Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:50
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Crimson_Roguedoes anyone know if ubuntu touch supports calls and sms/mms on the Galaxy S III?05:13
half_mastHas anyone been getting NETWORK ERROR when trying to update apps through the update manager?05:29
wilee-nileehalf_mast, Nope, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal and pastbin it.05:35
half_mastwilee-nillee, this is what I got. Ign http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release.gpg05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release.gpg05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty Release05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages/DiffIndex05:39
wilee-nilee!pastebin05:39
ubot5For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted armhf Packages/DiffIndex05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/universe armhf Packages/DiffIndex05:39
half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/main Sources05:39
half_mast  404  Not Found05:39
half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Sources05:39
wilee-nileehalf_mast, STOP05:39
half_mast  404  Not Found05:39
half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Sources05:39
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half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en05:39
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Sources05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Sources05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Sources05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main armhf Packages05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted armhf Packages05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe armhf Packages05:40
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half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en05:40
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en05:40
half_mastIgn http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en05:40
half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Sources05:40
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wilee-nilee!pastebin | half_mast05:40
half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Sources05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Sources05:40
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half_mastErr http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages05:41
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chriadamholy flood batman05:41
half_mastW: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock05:41
half_mastW: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found05:41
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half_mastW: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty-updates/universe/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found05:41
half_mastW: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty-security/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found05:41
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half_mastW: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty-security/main/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found05:42
half_mastW: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty-security/restricted/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found05:42
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half_mastW: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty/restricted/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found05:42
half_mastW: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/trusty/universe/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found05:42
half_mastE: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.05:42
half_mastW: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock05:42
half_mastman bad05:42
half_mastnow I feel bad... But here is the pastebin link http://paste.ubuntu.com/6446553/05:42
wilee-nileehalf_mast, I would change repos and reboot and check the updates again.05:44
half_mastOk how would I change the repos05:44
wilee-nileesoftware sources, this is the trusty dektop install?05:45
wilee-nileetghe image05:45
wilee-nileethe*05:45
half_mastNo my desktop is saucy. But my phone is r10 build.05:46
wilee-nileehalf_mast, It's touch or the trusty image?05:47
half_mastIt's ubuntu touch 14.04 running trusty05:48
wilee-nileehalf_mast, NOt sure then I have not used it for awhile.05:48
wilee-nileeat least how to change the repo, I can't tell if its a broken package, or "Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock" try a reboot05:49
half_mastwilee-nilee, I tried to reboot and it did not fix it.05:55
wilee-nileehalf_mast, Did you stop a upgrade while running?05:56
half_mastwilee-nilee, no05:57
wilee-nileehalf_mast, try sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install05:58
wilee-nileeyour chrooted in right?05:58
wilee-nileeis that root?05:58
wilee-nileeno sudo then05:59
half_mastwilee-nilee, it giving me an error: unable access dpkg status area: Read-only file system06:02
wilee-nileehalf_mast, I'm not sure how touch is set up now, so not really sure here, you want better help than me.06:03
half_mastwilee-nilee, thank you for trying06:04
wilee-nileehalf_mast, Sure no harm done.06:04
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AskUbuntuUbuntu 14 installation failed on nexus 7 (2012) wifi | http://askubuntu.com/q/37973208:45
mzanettipopey: hey, xbmcremote has been rejected again because the applicationName isn't set in qml08:53
mzanettipopey: but for that one I really can't have that yet08:53
mzanettipopey: as it would require me to ifdef lots of C++ code not to break it on other platforms08:53
popeyI guess dholbach didnt know that, leave a comment and I'll approve mzanetti08:54
popeymzanetti: actually, no need to leave a comment, I can approve08:56
mzanettipopey: I can't find how to leave a comment without submitting a new version08:56
popeydone08:56
mzanettipopey: thanks :)08:56
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mhr3can anyone tell me what's the ip of s-jenkinks.ubuntu-ci?09:25
mhr3and perhaps what don't i have to resolve it properly? :)09:26
randomcppit's nice to see that there's an emulator for ubuntu-touch, but is it normal that prebuilt emulator does not work?09:29
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randomcpp(I'm now trying to build from scratch now)09:29
randomcpp(and yes I'm on trusty of course)09:30
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* Taduro_ wants Ubuntu Touch for all devicesss!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!10:17
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NYLhi guys10:23
NYLanyone else working right now on Samsung i9505 port?10:24
popey!devices | NYL10:28
ubot5NYL: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices10:28
NYLguess not10:31
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Juan_ola, alguem fala portugues?11:02
Juan_hi, someone could help me with the installation of the development environment for Ubuntuphone using cordova?11:04
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Juan_Ubuntu installed the sdk, but when running, it does not run the javascript code11:07
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Hourdanders sure likes going away12:05
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dpmhi mardy, to get started with it, I built the signon-plugin-oauth2 package with the fixes required from Evernote in your branch. It's now on the core apps PPA. Has the updated package landed in Trusty? It'd be good to point folks to the proper package rather than the PPA12:12
mardydpm: not yet: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdGNWb0tTVmJLVzFZd0doV3dVOGpWemc&usp=drive_web#gid=112:13
dpmok, good to see it's on the pipeline, thanks mardy for the update12:14
mardydpm: yw :-)12:14
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mdeslauris r10 still the latest image available for 14.04?12:44
mdeslaurtwo week without an update, or is my phone not updating for some reason?12:44
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janimomdeslaur, seems correct12:49
janimomdeslaur, I see  --channel trusty-proposed will get 1512:50
mdeslaurjanimo: ok, cool. thanks...was just wondering if something was wrong on my end12:50
janimomdeslaur, I was wondering the same thing 10 min ago when I checked :)12:50
mdeslaurehe12:54
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ogra_janimo, r15 ?12:57
ogra_you should get r2612:57
janimoogra_, that's what it showed me with trusty-proposed12:58
ogra_mdeslaur, the testing infrastructure moved, we couldnt test images for a week12:58
mdeslaurogra_: oh! right, I had forgotten about that12:58
ogra_and after that week everything was broken ... so we're still trying to get back to normal12:58
janimoogra root@ubuntu-phablet:/# system-image-cli -n --channel trusty-proposed12:58
janimoUpgrade path is 1512:58
janimoogra_, but I am running a self-built system.img that may confuse the upgrader, I don't know12:59
ogra_ah12:59
ogra_15 is definitely a last week thing :)12:59
janimothat's when I flashed the phone  I think, and only copied new system.img over since13:00
dpmI always forget: how can I convert a RO image to RW if I want to manually install a package for testing purposes?13:03
ogra_dpm, touch /userdata/.writable_image && reboot13:04
dpmawesome, thanks ogra_13:04
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AskUbuntuCan apps developed in the Ubuntu SDK be ported to Android? | http://askubuntu.com/q/37987914:31
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cwaynexnox, i think i must be missing something, i still cant get pinyin working on ubuntu-keyboard :(14:36
xnoxcwayne: why is that? what's wrong?14:37
cwaynexnox, in the ribbon at the top, it's still showing english14:38
xnoxcwayne: please talk to gusch about it.14:38
cwayneeven if the system's LANG is set to zh_CN, and enabled-languages is set to just 'zh_cn_pinyin'14:38
xnoxcwayne: i simply did the API port from one to another.14:38
xnoxcwayne: i'm not ubuntu-keyboard upstream.14:39
rsalvetiSaviq: which image did you use with the emulator? also, which android-emulator package version did you use?14:39
cwaynexnox, ah, apologies14:39
Saviqrsalveti, I just followed the wiki14:40
Saviqrsalveti, emulator 20131120-0225-0ubuntu114:40
rsalvetiright, emulator should be fine then14:40
rsalvetiI'm trying with the latest image again14:40
Saviqrsalveti, let me start from scratch, too14:40
rsalvetiSaviq: might be good to see the logs when opening it up as well, might be an issue with your host gl driver14:41
rsalvetiSaviq: as it needs to use the translator driver (translates gles -> host gl)14:41
ogra_dont !14:41
ogra_you want ubuntu214:41
ogra_else you get the messed up libs installed (which you cant uninstall)14:41
ogra_(at least if your host is amd64)14:42
ogra_just wait until https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/android/20131120-0225-0ubuntu2 has promoted14:42
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rsalvetiogra_: hm, still not proposed14:44
rsalveti*promoted14:44
ogra_nope14:44
ogra_see #ubuntu-release14:44
ogra_cjwatson is on it14:44
rsalveti"https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/man-db -> no trusty"14:44
rsalvetiooops14:44
ogra_well, above that :)14:44
ogra_proposed-migration is crashing14:44
rsalvetiyeah14:45
cjwatsonYes, investigating14:45
cjwatsonSomebody marked trusty as experimental14:45
cjwatsonTrying to find out why14:45
ogra_lol14:45
cjwatsonAs it happens I was expecting android to need manual assistance to migrate14:45
cjwatsonWhich was why I was looking at proposed-migration logs in the first place, so I could provide that :-)14:45
cjwatsonBecause I want that android-emulator installed on my laptop in time for a presentation later today ...14:46
Saviqrsalveti, downloading image 26 now14:46
rsalvetiSaviq: yeah, trying that one here as well14:47
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rsalvetiSaviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448500/, working fine with 26 here14:55
Saviqrsalveti, not here :/14:55
Saviqrsalveti, buffer allocation failed14:55
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rsalvetiSaviq: might be an issue with your gl driver, can you paste the log from the emulator?14:56
rsalvetiSaviq: also, logcat might be useful14:56
Saviqrsalveti, yeah, trying14:56
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seb128pete-woods, hey, are you leading the infographics session in 10min? (I'm hosting it, just trying to make sure that people are going to join)14:57
pete-woodsseb128: hopefully, yes, do you have the hangout link? :)14:57
seb128pete-woods, not yet, going to start it now, give me a minute14:58
Saviqrsalveti, emu log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448524/14:58
pete-woodsseb128: okay, thanks14:58
rsalvetiSaviq:14:58
rsalvetierror libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory14:58
Saviqrsalveti, I might be on nvidia14:59
rsalvetiSaviq: oh, right14:59
rsalvetiSaviq: might be a soname mismatch14:59
Saviqrsalveti, actually no, I'm on i915, but under optimus15:00
KosticGuys, I am starting a port of Ubuntu Phone to Geeksphone Peak. Wish me luck. :)15:00
Saviqrsalveti, which probably breaks somehow15:00
seb128pete-woods, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi8es9nqs8pacmundkurvhs?authuser=015:00
rsalvetiSaviq: weird, something else would be broken as well15:00
pete-woodsseb128: thanks muchly!15:00
rsalvetiSaviq: as it can't find the library15:00
seb128pete-woods, please share with those that should join the session15:00
seb128pete-woods, yw!15:00
Saviqrsalveti, yeah, but nothing else uses i38615:00
Saviqrsalveti, I'm on amd6415:00
cwaynedpm, hey, is there anything else you'd need from me re: getting community translations?15:01
Saviqrsalveti, although15:01
Saviq⟫ ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.115:01
Saviqlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 paź 22 13:30 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2.015:01
rsalvetiright15:01
Saviqrsalveti, anyway, session now, will look at it later15:01
rsalvetiSaviq: sure15:02
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popeyKostic: good luck!15:03
Saviqrsalveti, yeah, glxgears:i386 doesn't work, so need to resolve that first15:03
Saviqrsalveti, probably the libGL alternatives are b0rked15:03
rsalvetiSaviq: probably15:03
cjwatsonOK, /ubuntu/trusty recovered, it was a misfire for /charms/trusty15:04
cwaynehuh, can i not just do 'mount -o rw,remount /' anymore?15:05
Saviqrsalveti, yeah, `update-alternatives --config i386-linux-gnu_gl_conf`15:05
* Saviq should file a bug that this is happening sometimes15:05
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om26erogra_, so it turns out we need unity8-autopilot on the touch image. Would you accept patches ?15:19
Saviqrsalveti, anything obvious here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448608/ ?15:20
ogra_preinstalled by default ?15:20
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om26erogra_, yes. for phablet-test-run to automatically unlock the screen we need it pre-installed.15:20
ogra_how big is it ?15:20
rsalvetiSaviq: seems fine now15:20
ogra_(and the stack of potential deps it pulls in)15:20
rsalvetiSaviq: check logcat15:20
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om26erogra_, ~20 kb also depends on python-gi15:21
Saviqrsalveti, yay, working15:23
rsalvetiSaviq: \o/15:23
om26erogra_, python-gi is 232kbs all other deps are on the image.15:23
ogra_sounds fine to me then15:24
Saviqrsalveti, yay, SLOW!15:24
rsalvetiSaviq: first boot still?15:24
Saviqrsalveti, maybe15:24
rsalvetifirst boot is a pain15:24
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mterryracarr, poke when you get up15:30
cwaynestgraber, hey, should my initramfs tools be in today's image?15:36
cwaynei.e. the multi-user custom stuff15:37
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Mirvtsdgeos: I guess we'd need Kaleo's https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/qtubuntu/dpr_rebase_qt_5.1/+merge/183500 in Qtubuntu as well, but #ifdef:d?15:59
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stgrabercwayne: I think the images are currently built manually, so I don't know, the next one should have your change though16:02
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tsdgeosMirv: we'd need some input from Kaleo here but it seems to me the devicePixelRatio virutals are also in 5.0 so it may just work in both16:05
Mirvok16:07
tsdgeosKaleo: so ping when you're around :D16:07
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Kaleotsdgeos, pong16:10
tsdgeosKaleo: about https://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/qtubuntu/dpr_rebase_qt_5.1/+merge/18350016:10
Kaleotsdgeos, the patches will not be compatible with 5.016:10
tsdgeoswhy?16:11
tsdgeosseems like the virtuals and stuff you're using are there in 5.0 too, aren't they?16:11
Kaleotsdgeos, lots of bugs have been solved since 5.016:11
Kaleotsdgeos, in Qt16:11
Kaleotsdgeos, so it basically won't work properly16:11
tsdgeosi see16:12
Kaleotsdgeos, all my changes are pure C++ though, we could ifdef it probably16:12
tsdgeosKaleo: so we need some ifdefing for the transition period, right?16:12
tsdgeosi.e. so we can commit it now16:12
tsdgeosand works in both "worlds"16:12
tsdgeosKaleo: want me to work on that or you prefer to do it yourself?16:14
Kaleotsdgeos, if you are good at adding the ifdefs, go for it16:15
Kaleotsdgeos, there are 2 MRs16:15
tsdgeosKaleo: what's the other one?16:15
Kaleohttps://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/qtubuntu/dpr_rebase_qt_5.1/+merge/18350016:15
Kaleohttps://code.launchpad.net/~fboucault/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/dpr_rebase_qt_5.1/+merge/18376216:15
tsdgeosok, will do16:15
Kaleothx16:16
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KosticWhat should I do if the device isn't supported on CM wiki but I have a git repo with all of the neccesarry files to build a android rom for the device?16:42
FourFireHello16:52
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FourFireis it possible to actually run desktop applications via your phone with this OS?16:52
cwaynemterry, ping16:53
mterrycwayne, hello!16:53
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cwaynemterry, heya!  quick question -- that AS call you gave me to set the user's language.. org.freedesktop.Accounts.User.Setlanguage, that's *all* i should need to set, right?16:54
cwaynei.e., that will automagically update all relevant bits in ~/.pam-environment?16:54
mterrycwayne, it should16:54
cwaynemterry, ok, so i shouldnt need to update /etc/default/locale or /etc/environment?16:55
mterrycwayne, not unless you also want to change the system language16:55
cwaynemterry, there shouldn't be a reason to right?16:55
mterrycwayne, I don't think so16:55
cwayneas far as the user is concerned, everything language-wise is already set16:55
mterrycwayne, traditionally, the greeter shows in the system language though16:55
cwaynemterry, ah, hm16:56
mterrycwayne, I don't know if design wants that to change with the unity8 greeter16:56
cwaynemterry, do you know what changing the language in the UI does?16:56
mterrycwayne, it likely just sets ~/.pam-environment16:56
mterryvia AS16:56
FourFireI'm sorry is there a channel for Ubuntu-for-Android ?16:56
mterrycwayne, it doesn't have permission to change the system language16:56
cwayneFourFire, unfortunately no :(16:56
FourFirethere is?16:57
cwaynemterry, ok, so it's essentially doing the same exact thing16:57
mterrycwayne, yar16:57
cwayneFourFire, no there's not16:57
Crimson_Roguehello. I have a question.16:57
FourFireok, can I ask my questions here instead then?16:57
cwaynemterry, okay, cool, thank you16:57
Crimson_Rogueactually I have several questions...16:57
Crimson_Rogue1) has anyone flashed ubuntu touch to the Galaxy S III?16:57
cwayneFourFire, sure!16:58
Crimson_Rogue2) Are you able to use sms and make/recieve phone calls, if so?16:58
Crimson_Rogue3) if not, what are the steps that need to be taken to get the network working?16:58
Crimson_Rogue4) what carrier were you on?16:58
FourFireor is there some incompatabilities between ARMv9 and Intelx86 ?16:59
FourFireif I, for example, wanted to run Virtualbox, Minecraft, and Wine would I run into major issues?17:00
xnoxFourFire: ARMv9 doesn't exist, and I don't understand your question different architecture means that everything must be recompiled/support the new architecture.17:02
cwaynemterry, another question!  how do i know if i need to run locale-gen for a given locale?17:02
cwaynelike, if it doesn't show up in /usr/share/locale/?17:02
FourFireI am running Ubuntu on my laptop computer17:02
xnoxFourFire: most open-source software needs porting, or recompilation. in case of proprietary software, that vendor should create binaries for the new platform.17:02
mterrycwayne, oh it's been a while since I trucked with locale-gen17:03
FourFireand I am wondering whether I will be able to install the same programs onto my phone17:03
FourFireoh, right, I guess no then17:03
mterrycwayne, yeah, I think you're right, but not sure17:03
cwayneFourFire, a lot of the stuff in the archives is already built for armhf though17:03
FourFireis there a list somewhere?17:04
KulithianDoes anyone know where i could find documentation on porting devices with small /data partitions? ie. Kindle fire 1st gens. XDA has a thread but the dl links are dead for the install.zip flash17:13
FourFireKulithian have you tried internetarchive.org?17:16
FourFire(use waybackmachine on your thread, maybe you'll be lucky)17:16
KulithianI haven't. ill check that first17:17
Kulithiantmoenicke , no dice :\ http://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/otter/ubuntu-phablet/ubuntu-rootfs-installer.zip thats the file im looking for17:19
Kulithianeven just a reference so i could maybe figure out how to build my own17:19
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jdstrandxnox, rsalveti: dudes> emulator running unity is pretty darn cool :)18:16
ogra_it is !18:17
ogra_still enough bugs though18:17
jdstrandI'm surprised how responsive the UI is18:17
ogra_i was surprised that my laptop is heavy enough to not hover when running it18:18
jdstrandheh18:19
AskUbuntuWhy isn't python featured? | http://askubuntu.com/q/37997718:19
AskUbuntuUbuntu Touch 14.04 Wireless and Network not working | http://askubuntu.com/q/37998218:19
rsalvetijdstrand: \o/18:19
rsalvetiwe now just need to fix apparmor18:19
jdstrandyep, jj is on it18:19
rsalvetiawesome18:19
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Stskeepsrsalveti: what timezone is it on the vUDS?18:21
Stskeeps(for the emu one)18:21
popeyits all UTC18:22
Stskeepsoki18:22
rsalvetiyeah, all utc18:22
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KosticThis device isn't supported by CM but I have a git repo with all required files to build Android 4.0 ROM for it and in that repo I have directories device and kernel. Can I just copy those dirs to the directory with files generated with phablet-dev-bootstrap and continue to "Device changes - Audio" of Touch Porting guide?18:48
KosticThe device in question is Geeksphone Peak (Developer one, not the Peak+).18:48
rickspencer3kalikiana_, hey, am I supposed to be able to delete u1 docs with delete_doc in qml?18:50
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* jdstrand enjoys reading about Ubuntu for phones in the browser in the emulator18:51
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ogra_lol18:53
ogra_dont read to fast though18:53
ogra_it might fall over18:53
Kosticogra_: me? :)18:54
ogra_Kostic, no, jdstrand18:54
jdstrandhehe18:55
jdstrandstill-- very cool :)18:55
ogra_yeah18:55
ogra_we need to drop the whole stuff on the right ... imho18:55
ogra_apart from power and volume18:55
xnoxogra_: we can, rsalveti is forcing that skin at the moment, there are other skins with less buttons.18:59
ogra_yeah, we should use that18:59
ogra_especially we should drop the kbd19:00
xnoxogra_: e.g. some of those keys are useful in the recovery mode.19:00
rsalvetiyup, we don't yet know, by design, what we want in there19:00
rsalvetiwe should probably have our own skin19:00
rsalvetiogra_: who is rsaletis? :P19:01
ogra_your evil clone19:02
ogra_never met him ?19:02
rsalvetiogra_: but thanks for sending the lxc-console email, I was going to do that later today19:02
ogra_ah, k19:02
rsalvetiyeah, that might be the one that works during the night19:02
ogra_haha19:02
rsalvetiogra_: can you also add that info to the porting/touch wiki?19:02
ogra_yup19:03
AskUbuntuNexus 5 Touch/phone/unbuntu services | http://askubuntu.com/q/38000119:03
ogra_just to much distraction today ...19:03
rsalvetiyeah19:03
ogra_i had planned to do that19:03
balloonsnik90, it passed -- https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/use-default-swipe-delete/+merge/191905 woot19:11
nik90balloons: thnx :)19:11
nik90balloons: can i top approve it?19:12
balloonsgot for it19:12
janimoxnox, for x86 builds this may be a good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AOSPBuild19:47
janimoxnox, since our phablet tree has the x86 toolchains removed anyway19:47
janimoI tried the x86 generic target19:48
janimoxnox, the last patch in system/core , the one moving the ucontext.h inclusion FTBFS on x86, reverting it resulted in an image that built. I did not look into how t is supposed to be run though19:48
xnoxjanimo: we can set variables to not do sparse image by default =) such that one doesn't need to simg2img it =)19:49
xnoxjanimo: sounds good.19:49
janimoxnox, I didn't know that. But then you'll get 900M system.img by default which is not necessarily good for people who want to fastboot it19:49
xnoxjanimo: i'll start with that and make sure that full-eng matches current goldfish-eng.19:49
janimoxnox, bt as an opti-in config it would be probabyly good19:49
xnoxjanimo: has pre-build kernel handling been ported to AOSPbuild yet? cause we were kind of hooking into cm-* stuff for that.19:50
janimoxnox, no. I just added a prebuilt mako kernel in the manifest since I was mostly targetting mako19:51
janimoand the people bringing up other hw may not even have their kernels in Ubuntu/LP19:51
janimoso little use in having that in imho19:51
xnoxjanimo: well for the archive build, i do need to use kernels from the archive, which i have been patching on top of what was patched =) if there is a way to stick a prebuilt one somewhere, that's fine, but we need to update the kernel modules as well.19:52
janimoxnox, in the build I only ported the list of modules to build and the bundling of the ramdisk19:52
xnox(by default aosp doesn't use kernel modules, but we do)19:53
janimoxnox, inded the kernel moduels I forgot about those19:53
xnoxjanimo: ok, if that's not done yet, i'll see how to hook that into aosp build.19:53
xnoxjanimo: i'm near EOD here. I will try AOSPBuild for full-eng with our prebuild armhf-goldfish kernel, and will let you know how far it goes =)19:54
janimoxnox, thanks :)19:54
xnoxrsalveti: are we exporting tarballs for aosp srcs yet?19:54
rsalvetixnox: no, because we need to start the porting work on it still :-)19:55
rsalvetixnox: but I can take a look, it's just annoying that we're using the generic android name for the tarball and package19:56
rsalvetiwhen we have both aosp and cm19:56
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jlautsHey guys, is this the right place to ask a question about trusty-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img?20:10
rsalvetijlauts: sure20:13
jlautsrselceti: So once i flashed this recovery and performed a wipe data and factory reset it will now not allow me to select a zip from /sdcard to install. It says E: Can't mount /sdcard.20:15
jlautsrsalveti* sorry20:15
rsalvetiweird, try to format the sdcard partition again20:16
rsalvetiand reboot the recovery20:16
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ogra_rsalveti, see, you have a coomplex name ... not the first time today that someone typos it20:17
ogra_:P20:17
jlautshaha, just trying to do multiple things at once20:18
rsalvetiogra_: :P20:18
jlautsrsalveti: seems to say "No files found" now. So I am assuming that it has now mounted properly. Let my try to push the files again.20:18
ogra_jlauts, no worries, you just served me with an excuse for my typo in a mail today ;)20:19
jlautsogra_, you're welcome :)20:21
rsalvetibfiller: hey, do you know if not being able to horizontally scroll the text input field is a bug?20:27
rsalvetifor example, I want to change a single character in a big url field, but I can move to the location I want without erasing the previous content20:28
rsalveti*I can't move20:29
ogra_heh, try to append something ... thats even worse ...20:31
ogra_at least in the browser20:31
ogra_trying to get the cursor to the end of line i promise you you will hit the delete button next to it20:32
rsalvetiogra_: right20:32
jlautsGreat guys, thanks a lot. It seems that it might have just lost touch with the recovery. Now it looks like I just have a bad download of the armhf.zip file. I appreciate your help guys!20:34
bfillerrsalveti: I think that is not implemented, but I agree it's really needed20:40
bfillerrsalveti: Kaleo any input on that? see rsalveti comment above20:40
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* ogra_ really likes how the terminal does it 20:48
ogra_(cursor moving)20:49
jcastroapparently the CyanogenMod installer allows for dual boot setups, has anyone tried this?20:53
Tassadarjcastro: where did you read that?20:55
pmcgowanjcastro, ondrej has it working somewhere20:57
jcastroTassadar, I can't seem to find the link now20:59
Kaleobfiller, rsalveti: I don't think it's implemented20:59
TassadarIt seems a bit strange to me, that CM installer would deal with dual-booting20:59
UrsinhaKaleo, I'd trade a bottle of cachaça for that implementation :P20:59
KaleoUrsinha, really?21:00
KaleoUrsinha, ahahah21:00
UrsinhaKaleo, sure :D21:00
KaleoUrsinha, it's a trap, you are going to go to big box or something and find the cheapest one21:00
rsalvetilol21:00
Ursinhalol no, only the finest :) (even because you can go to any supermarket and find out I bought you a really cheap ass one :P)21:01
jcastroTassadar, I don't know much about it21:01
AskUbuntuandroid phone recovery mode not connecting | http://askubuntu.com/q/38005521:03
plarssergiusens: is there a way now of reinstalling a device once it gets messed up? used to do this by forcing it into bootloader and adding -d {device_type}, but that doesn't seem to work now, it still wants to adb reboot on its own21:05
rsalvetiplars: you can as long you have adb working (image or recovery)21:06
plarsrsalveti: we don't though21:06
rsalvetibecause as you said, it tries to run adb reboot21:07
plarsrsalveti: just get him to manually flash recovery then I guess?21:07
rsalvetiyeah21:07
rsalvetiflash recovery with fastboot, boot into recovery and flash it again with -b -d device21:07
plarsrfowler: ^21:07
Unknown__Hello?21:09
Unknown__hello??21:09
Unknown__.21:09
Unknown__anybody here?21:10
Unknown__anybody here?21:10
Unknown__??21:11
Unknown__Is anyone here?21:11
Unknown__anybody here?21:12
Unknown__anybody here?21:12
sergiusensplars, rsalveti yeah, manually flash recovery or flash cdimage-touch21:13
Unknown__Anybody know how to flash Ubuntu Touch on my N7?21:13
Unknown__fiugb21:14
Unknown__Anybody know how to flash Ubuntu Touch on my N7?21:14
jlautshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install21:14
Unknown__thanks21:14
jlautsnp21:14
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Unknown__Anybody know how to flash Ubuntu Touch on my N7?21:48
Unknown__Anybody know how to get Ubuntu Touch on my N7?21:48
Unknown__Anybody know how to get Ubuntu Touch on my N7?21:50
Ne0nTree.21:52
Ne0nTreeHellp21:52
Ne0nTreeHello21:52
Ne0nTreeI have a Nexus21:53
Ne0nTreeHello, I have a N7 and I want to get Ubuntu Touch on it but the Graphical installer will not install (404 Not found) I tried the Manual way and the files needed for the install arent there anymore, So how do I do it?21:56
cwayneNe0nTree, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install21:57
Ne0nTreeThanks21:57
cwayneNe0nTree, no problem!  the graphical installer is for the ubuntu desktop on the n721:58
TechieElfCan someone help me? I have a couple questions on porting22:05
Saviqsergiusens, ping22:21
SaviqTechieElf, better post them to the mailing list22:22
SaviqTechieElf, it's past EOD for most people here22:22
TechieElfSaviq: I have, actually. And I know, I'm battling timezone differences.22:23
sergiusensSaviq, pong22:24
Saviqsergiusens, hey, there's something wrong with libqt5multimedia5-touch22:24
Saviqsergiusens, when installing the -dev package22:25
sergiusensSaviq, are you installing it on desktop?22:25
Saviqsergiusens, no, device22:25
sergiusensSaviq, hmmm, so you aren't supposed to install the dev package22:25
Saviqsergiusens, you are if you want to link against it ;)22:25
Saviqsergiusens, there's a .so link to a .5.0.2, where the only one provided is a .5.1.122:25
sergiusensSaviq, the -touch package is a huge colossal divert; there is no -dev package for it from what I know either22:26
sergiusensthe -dev package you are installing is from the older qt22:26
Saviqsergiusens, yes, the -dev is from the no -touch22:26
sergiusensSaviq, so you need to install the old qtmultimedia22:27
Saviqsergiusens, hence the broken symlink indeed22:27
Saviqsergiusens, the no -touch?22:27
sergiusensSaviq, yeah; everything builddeps on those anyways22:27
Saviqsergiusens, it's installed22:27
sergiusensSaviq, the -touch version is because jhodapp needed it to get the video sync working22:28
Saviqsergiusens, but then if you link against the "old" one, your binary won't work22:29
Saviqsergiusens, 'cause it's linked against something that's moved away on the device, no/22:30
sergiusensSaviq, ah, I see your point22:31
sergiusensSaviq, so if this is just eperimentation, I would create the .so link and include the respective headers22:31
Saviqsergiusens, well, it's not just experimentation... how do you link a binary against qtmultimedia then22:32
Saviqso that it works on the device22:32
Saviqmzanetti, you might want to read up ↑22:32
sergiusensSaviq, up to this date no other binary linked to it?22:33
sergiusensI guess we were only using the plugins22:33
mzanettisergiusens: yeah... I ran into this earlier but I forgot what the solution was22:33
Saviqmzanetti, yeah, well... there is no solution, to be honest ;)22:34
Saviqmzanetti, as you can't get the headers for the 5.1.1 version22:34
Saviqyou might be lucky that it works with the 5.0.2 headers, when linked against 5.1.122:34
Saviqthat's not a *solution* though ;P22:34
Saviqmzanetti, only good thing about it is it's going away with 5.222:34
mzanettiSaviq: yup22:39
TechieElfHow do I flip my port? ( From the old style to the new style)22:39
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TechieElfCan someone help me with a build error? "make: *** No rule to make target `/home/techieelf/utport/out/host/linux-x86/bin/bsdiff', needed by `/home/techieelf/utport/out/target/product/xt907/cm_xt907-ota-eng.techieelf.zip'.  Stop. make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs...."23:08
TechieElfHashcode: I need your help with the xt907 port. I can't seem to build it and I'm not sure why.23:19
xnoxTechieElf:23:24
xnox$ bsdiff23:24
xnoxThe program 'bsdiff' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:23:24
xnoxsudo apt-get install bsdiff23:24
xnox;-)23:24
TechieElfxnox: techieelf@eUbuntu:~/utport$ bsdiff bsdiff: usage: bsdiff oldfile newfile patchfile23:24
TechieElfxnox: Oh, but it is.... ? ;)23:25
xnoxTechieElf: hm, all our builds use /usr/bin/bsdiff. if there is extra places where /usr/bin/bsdiff is not used, patch it & send patches to ubuntu-phone mailing list.23:25
TechieElfxnox: Where would these places be? (I'm foreign to the ubuntu-phone dev environment)23:26
sergiusensTechieElf,  find . -name '*.mk' -exec grep -n -H bsdiff {} \;23:26
sergiusensI think that will help you pin point it23:26
xnoxsergiusens: i'd do: $ ack-grep --make bsdiff23:28
xnoxgrep makefiles only.23:28
sergiusensxnox, you are smarter :-)23:29
TechieElfxnox: "./build/core/main.mk:476:external/bsdiff \ ./bootable/recovery/applypatch/Android.mk:50:LOCAL_SRC_FILES := imgdiff.c utils.c bsdiff.c" neither look suspicous?23:29
sergiusensxnox, there's also one from sourcing the build env23:29
xnoxsergiusens: heh =)23:29
TechieElfFound it! Can someone else send the patch if I point it out? I'm not sure how to send it :p23:31
sergiusensTechieElf, easiest way is to edit the file, git commit; git format-patch -123:32
TechieElfAlrighty then23:32
TechieElfsergiusens: I noticed that a lot of things are being called from out/host and not usr/bin, like imgdiff. Should only bsdiff be called from usr/bin or should they all?23:38
sergiusensTechieElf, not all of them23:40
TechieElfsergiusens: Alright. Thanks. Do you have any idea why my phablet zip size varies from a previous compiled one from another dev? Also, mine causes a bootloop vs. his works. The source hasn't been modified.23:42
sergiusensTechieElf, do you have your vendor tree in place23:43
sergiusens?23:43
TechieElfsergiusens: I'm not familiar with that term. Although I do notice "non-existing device tree" or something close to that outputting at the beginning of brunch.23:44
sergiusensTechieElf, that's ok23:44
sergiusensTechieElf, I mean this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Retrieving_the_proprietary_blobs_from_Android23:45
TechieElfsergiusens: I skipped that because I grabbed the source from the old dev. Also, it looks like the files that would come from that are already in place. The file size differs by ~1mb only23:47
sergiusensTechieElf, well the phablet tree is under constant change, so unless you checkout the same commit ids you most likely will get a different build23:52
sergiusensI thought you were talking about more than 1MB :-)23:52
TechieElfsergiusens: Hm, makes sense. :P Why is there a boot loop then? :s23:53
sergiusensTechieElf, logcat is your friend; are you doing flipped while this guy wasn't?23:54
TechieElfsergiusens: "Trying dependencies-only mode on a non-existing device tree?" is the output that worries me. Also, I'm not sure if the previous dev was doing flipped or not. Judging by his latest phablet zip I flashed, I'd say not flipped.23:57

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