[13:58] <seb128> hey there!
[13:59] <tvoss_> seb128, hey, got a hangout url?
[14:00] <seb128> tvoss_, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjngicld5k2djgpi5vc1vso?authuser=0
[14:02] <tvoss_> for reference: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1311-location-service-assisted-gps
[14:03] <seb128> http://youtu.be/x4_22zIMmHU
[14:03] <seb128> ^ stream url
[14:15] <tedg> rsalveti, tvoss_, why not use the kernel interface for that list of access points?
[14:16] <rsalveti> tedg: could be as well, which is what nm will be using anyway
[14:16] <tedg> rsalveti, Yeah, I was just thinking we don't need it processed and dbus for this.
[14:17] <rsalveti> sure
[14:18] <tedg> The world DB is probably too big.  But it would be interesting to localize it.
[14:18] <tedg> i.e. All the APs in Germany might be small enough
[14:24] <jdstrand> that said, a secure design is still welcome :)
[14:26] <tvoss_> jdstrand, :)
[14:26] <jdstrand> and based on what was just said, it sounds like that will be the case
[14:29] <tedg> Me too!
[14:29] <tedg> That's kinda crazy
[14:29] <jdstrand> fyi, there is already some design around the privacy settings for location: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Location
[14:29]  * tedg changes nick to "tedg-no-nsa"
[14:30] <gQuigs> it's not official, just something people started doing
[14:33] <tedg> Do we need to host our own copy?
[14:33] <tvoss_> tedg, nope
[14:33] <tedg> Even if it mirrors the other DBs/etc it might be able to scale more easily that way.
[14:34] <tedg> tvoss_, What about when we have 1B users and we crash them!  ;-)
[14:34] <tvoss_> tedg, that's a very nice problem to solve then :)
[14:35] <tedg> tvoss_, Sorry, I was meaning the WiFi APs data
[14:35] <gQuigs> is it the same thing as the location server by Mozilla or different?
[15:00] <seb128> next session is the infographics for 14.04, hangout url is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi8es9nqs8pacmundkurvhs?authuser=0
[15:02] <seb128> tedg, ^ coming to this one?
[15:02] <tedg> Yup
[15:05] <tedg> Infographics!
[15:06] <seb128> mterry, coming? https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi8es9nqs8pacmundkurvhs?authuser=0
[15:06] <mterry> seb128, OK
[15:06] <seb128> mterry, thanks
[15:07] <seb128> http://youtu.be/LajIl0cddgY
[15:07] <seb128> ^ stream url
[15:09] <cwayne> we'd also want OEM's to be able to customize it :)
[15:10] <Saviq> cwayne, for defs!
[15:14] <cwayne> doing these different customizations as click apps would be ideal for us in the customization team, as we already have a mechanism for preinstalled custom clicks
[15:17] <larsu> what happend to the plan of putting this data in AccountsService?
[15:17] <larsu> that would solve the notify problem, right?
[15:19] <kgunn> mterry: you're muted
[15:19] <mterry> kgunn, whoops
[15:20] <seb128> tedg, ^ larsu's question
[15:21] <seb128> larsu, want to join the hangout?
[15:21] <larsu> seb128: not really. I just tuned in because I'm interested.
[15:21] <seb128> k
[15:25] <larsu> all of these can be put into a gvariant string
[15:25] <larsu> or byte array
[15:25] <larsu> I'm just saying that we already have a lot of infrastructure for this...
[15:47] <cwayne> don't we have that as a gsettings key?
[15:48] <cwayne> like, including them in the clicks?
[15:52] <cwayne> as long as it's customizable by us we're fine with the mechanism
[15:54] <cwayne> all good here :)
[15:54] <cwayne> thanks guys o/
[16:01] <mlankhorst> hey
[16:03] <seb128> mlankhorst, hey
[16:03] <seb128> mlankhorst, hangout url https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpjg4e7ibk4vghv8fkul3tt8?authuser=0
[16:04] <seb128> mlankhorst, please share with the others that are supposed to join
[16:04]  * seb128 is back in a minute
[16:06] <seb128> mlankhorst, ?
[16:08] <mlankhorst> who's still interested in xorg general?
[16:09] <seb128> is anyone wanting to join?
[16:09] <bregma> doesn't look like it
[16:10] <seb128> ok, session cancelled by lack of participant
[16:11] <mlankhorst> I'll put all work items in the blueprint
[16:11] <tseliot> my DSL connection died. I added some topics in the blueprint but I can't really attend
[16:11]  * tseliot is using his phone's connection
[16:13] <mlankhorst> ok everything that I wanted to mention is in the work items
[16:15] <seb128> mlankhorst, what is changing in 1.15? is there a new server abi?
[16:16] <seb128> mlankhorst, when do you want to device about new version or not?
[16:16] <mlankhorst> seb128: new server abi, depends on support of binary drivers and on whether the features are compelling enough to upgrade
[16:17] <seb128> is it stable yet? what are the features?
[16:17] <seb128> or changes
[16:17] <mlankhorst> dri3
[16:18] <mlankhorst> and I think I saw keithp playing with tear-free intel render acceleration at linux plumbers, but that matters less when compositing. :P
[16:21] <olli_> your session doesn't seem to stream
[16:22] <mlankhorst> olli_: no it's cancelled due to lack of interest
[16:22] <olli_> ok
[16:23] <mlankhorst> everything important is in the work items
[16:26] <seb128> olli_, tseliot and tjaltoon were not able to join and nobody else expressed interested/wanted to join/had questions