| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/servercloud-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/20/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1.html | ||
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Charm Quality Points sync with eco and design | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22007/t-cloud-juju-charm-quality-points/ | ||
| marcoceppi | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-t-cloud-juju-charm-quality-points | 14:02 |
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| jcastro | https://jujucharms.com/precise/liferay-1/#bws-features | 14:03 |
| rick_h_ | bah, how do I join the hangout? jcastro | 14:17 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpjal1hv148g3i1sb5ktqf68?authuser=0&hl=en | 14:18 |
| jcastro | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-t-cloud-juju-charm-quality-points | 14:18 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Supporting Multiple Stable releases of Charms | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22010/t-cloud-juju-charms-multiple-stable-releases/ | ||
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjufj5oc8omdro2acjh1vco?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:02 |
| jcastro | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22010/t-cloud-juju-charms-multiple-stable-releases/ | 15:03 |
| jcastro | in ~3 minutes | 15:03 |
| jamespage | marcoceppi, jcastro, niemeyer: how would users upgrade from a precise based charm to a trusty based charm? LTS -> LTS | 15:45 |
| jamespage | i.e. series upgrade support in juju | 15:45 |
| jamespage | (that is a leading question) | 15:47 |
| jamespage | :-( | 15:47 |
| jamespage | my cloud users will love that | 15:47 |
| jcastro | yeah | 15:48 |
| jcastro | I hate this topic | 15:48 |
| jcastro | it just makes me hate software | 15:48 |
| jamespage | ubuntu has an upgrade story | 15:49 |
| jamespage | hmmm | 15:49 |
| jamespage | I think we are avoiding a hard subject | 15:49 |
| jcastro | I am not avoiding it, I'm just saying it's hard | 15:49 |
| jamespage | jcastro, ack | 15:51 |
| rick_h_ | it moves a lot to the charm author since the charm has to be the one to know what files it touched, what's the difference between a precise mysql.ini and trusty one. | 15:53 |
| rick_h_ | they'll just have two charms imo. Doing it in one and handling upgrades is a LOT more work, testing, etc | 15:54 |
| rick_h_ | it's a really interesting problem though. Even with packages we just go "hey, the ini file has changed, keep, go default, see diff | 15:55 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Juju Core Development Update | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22112/juju-core-development-update/ | ||
| mgz | is it possible to get audio-only for the session? | 16:01 |
| marcoceppi | mgz: not that I know of | 16:02 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpjmodidvjime8kk2kb7s28k?authuser=0&hl=en | 16:06 |
| jcastro | for this next session | 16:06 |
| * benji waves | 16:13 | |
| arges-uds | HA == HAPPY | 16:14 |
| marcoceppi | What about cloud federation? | 16:14 |
| marcoceppi | :( | 16:18 |
| jamespage | QUESTION: will/is it possible to include manually provisioned machines as part of other providers | 16:20 |
| jamespage | say openstack or MAAS or local maybe | 16:20 |
| jamespage | jcastro, ^^ | 16:21 |
| jcastro | got it | 16:21 |
| jamespage | w00t! | 16:25 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: you can use juju add-machine, but that machine needs to be able to speak to the bootstrap node | 16:26 |
| jamespage | ack | 16:27 |
| marcoceppi | so as long as entworking exists, it shoudl work currently | 16:27 |
| jamespage | jcastro, gotta ask - ubuntu series upgrades, via juju? | 16:33 |
| jameinel | Upgrading from a cs:precise/postgres to cs:trusty/postgres | 16:34 |
| jameinel | AFAIK that is not planned in the 14.04 cycle | 16:34 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: you can do a hulk smash, and just juju upgrade-charm --switch, but you won't upgrade the base in the process | 16:36 |
| jcastro | oh bummer | 16:39 |
| jcastro | do we not have a lunch break? | 16:39 |
| hazmat | marcoceppi, there's alot of distro series stuff that charm testing won't catch | 16:39 |
| hazmat | ie. i use btrfs for mysql in trusty, but for precise that might just blow up if used in the real | 16:40 |
| marcoceppi | yeah | 16:40 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/servercloud-1/ - http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/20/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1.html | ||
| jcastro | hey jamespage | 17:04 |
| jcastro | this is sort of your session I take it? | 17:04 |
| jcastro | juju in main basically? | 17:04 |
| jamespage | yup - but in +1 hour | 17:04 |
| jamespage | we get lunch | 17:04 |
| jcastro | oh! | 17:04 |
| jcastro | whew! | 17:04 |
| jamespage | jcastro, are you my mc? | 17:54 |
| jcastro | yessir! | 17:54 |
| jcastro | we start at :05 after, I'll fire it up in about 6 minutes | 17:54 |
| jamespage | ack | 17:55 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Juju activities for Trusty | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/21997/servercloud-1311-juju/ | ||
| jamespage | jcastro, wow - juju -> main followed by mysql alternatives | 17:56 |
| jamespage | that's two tough sessions methinks | 17:56 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpj5o91753ur5elerls6s99s?authuser=0&hl=en | 18:02 |
| jcastro | will be the session | 18:02 |
| doko | hangout URL? | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | o/ | 18:07 |
| jamespage | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpj5o91753ur5elerls6s99s?authuser=0&hl=en | 18:07 |
| doko | jamespage, ^^^ | 18:07 |
| jamespage | mdeslaur, please join | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | hrm, ok | 18:07 |
| mdeslaur | one sec, combing my hair | 18:07 |
| jamespage | pretty please :-) | 18:07 |
| jamespage | just turn the video off | 18:08 |
| marcoceppi | jamespage: charms are backwards compatible from 0.1 onward | 18:17 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: correct me if I'm wrong, but juju should never break charm compatibility | 18:17 |
| marcoceppi | /charms are/charms should be/ | 18:18 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: I can't think of anything that would break charm compatibility | 18:18 |
| marcoceppi | I'd throw a hissy fit if you guys did ;) | 18:19 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: certainly :) | 18:19 |
| mgz | presumably the libv8 security exposure is slightly different from chrome to mongo | 18:30 |
| sarnold | pkg_history shows four mongodb CVEs; one was REJECTED, one was for spidermonkey, one is v8 -- that looks like it wouldn't be exposed to users beyond juju authors, the fourth one looks like it might have been exposed to a juju use | 18:35 |
| sarnold | s/juju use/juju user/ | 18:35 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: interesting...at least if we isolate the v8/spidermonkey stuff it should definitely be easier to backport specific fixes | 18:37 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: yeah | 18:37 |
| mgz | thanks everyone | 18:37 |
| mdeslaur | and if we hit a point where backporting isn't possible, upgrading the version would be limited to impacting juju, so we're in control of doing it | 18:37 |
| jamespage | yep - thanks! | 18:37 |
| mdeslaur | thanks mgz | 18:37 |
| mdeslaur | thanks! | 18:37 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Charm Audit | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22006/t-cloud-juju-charm-audit/ | ||
| jcastro | arosales, got a link? | 19:04 |
| arosales | jcastro, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpi46knnik91tbt1c65dap7g?authuser=0&hl=en | 19:04 |
| arosales | and any other folks interested in joining :-) | 19:04 |
| arosales | blueprint, notes, hangout, and video are at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22006/t-cloud-juju-charm-audit/ | 19:05 |
| arosales | Session is Charm Audit | 19:05 |
| arosales | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-juju-audit-charms | 19:10 |
| marcoceppi | http://manage.jujucharms.com/tools/review-queue | 19:24 |
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