| rick_h_ | evening | 01:08 |
|---|---|---|
| cmaloney | Evening | 01:56 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: http://toxicholocaust.bandcamp.com/ | 02:03 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: http://skeletonwitch.bandcamp.com/ | 02:06 |
| widox | rick_h_: https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2013/11/australis-is-landing-in-firefox-nightly/ | 02:17 |
| rick_h_ | widox: yep | 02:18 |
| rick_h_ | widox: doing a G+ post now | 02:18 |
| widox | I've got Aurora v26.0a2 on here | 02:20 |
| widox | to many channels for browswer versions for me to keep track of | 02:20 |
| widox | gesh | 02:20 |
| rick_h_ | https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/7dGcpVYGNn2 | 02:21 |
| rick_h_ | I run stable and nightly firefox and chrome dev | 02:21 |
| rick_h_ | widox: will have to up the icon size to fit in the bar now :) | 02:24 |
| jrwren | australis? | 02:27 |
| jrwren | aurora here too. | 02:27 |
| rick_h_ | that's the name of the new UI theme | 02:28 |
| widox | rick_h_: heh, yeah could be a bit larger | 02:28 |
| cmaloney | Oh nice. it's time Firefox became Chrome. ;) | 03:07 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: :) | 03:08 |
| cmaloney | Oh, also got the new Hangouts on my phone | 03:10 |
| rick_h_ | yea, same here. Trying it out to replace texts with the wife | 03:10 |
| rick_h_ | since I can do both texts and MMS on it | 03:10 |
| rick_h_ | ah crap! Every time I update the extension it gets reset in the review queue | 03:17 |
| rick_h_ | it's back to 115/115. It'll never get reviewed now | 03:17 |
| rick_h_ | We'll have to let it sit for 4weeks and not update it at all | 03:17 |
| cmaloney | That's not helpful | 03:17 |
| rick_h_ | no, very uncool | 03:18 |
| rick_h_ | well $#@$@# that didn't work. Looked like the other icons get 18px of space, but when I use a 18px icon it's truncated off | 03:31 |
| greg-g | you all would appreciate this: Our lead architect was tasked with an annoying redirect issue (protocol relative stupidness), so to fix it, he decided to rewrite how rewrites are done completely, in a DSL that he's parsing into apache mod_rewrite rules: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/96438/ | 07:05 |
| greg-g | ie: instead of fixing the one or two lines in the current rewrite rules, make a DSL and associated parser | 07:05 |
| greg-g | heh | 07:06 |
| rick_h_ | just another fun day in cyber-land http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6447922/ | 12:33 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: that is...crazy | 12:33 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: and should be submitted upstream if it works well. No one likes to write those damn rules | 12:33 |
| cmaloney | I feel like such a punter. I just bought a book on Apache mod_rewrite. | 13:29 |
| brousch | What is this, 2012? Everyone is using nginx now | 13:32 |
| brousch | cmaloney: Do you have anything to add to this list? | 13:44 |
| brousch | http://list.ly/list/BGs-free-music-for-your-video-projects | 13:44 |
| brousch | rick_h_: I might need a room for pycon, but I will hopefully have to be there for the 9th and 10th | 14:05 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: ah, doing tutorials? | 14:06 |
| brousch | I submitted one | 14:07 |
| rick_h_ | ah, that's right, sweet | 14:07 |
| brousch | The thing is, I'm not sure if I want to go if it's rejected. It's pretty expensive | 14:07 |
| rick_h_ | well, not that bad. It's $300 I think for the conference 3 days. The sprints are free other htan the hotel night/food | 14:08 |
| brousch | Also I've never been away from my family for that long | 14:08 |
| rick_h_ | I guess my wife and I compare notes and her conferences are a LOT more expensive | 14:08 |
| rick_h_ | well, I'd still say it'd be cool to go, at least for the conference and a day or two of sprints | 14:09 |
| cmaloney | brousch: I get most of my stuff from Bandcamp | 14:09 |
| rick_h_ | it's a bit boost ime | 14:09 |
| cmaloney | but they don't have a nice way to search for CC music | 14:09 |
| cmaloney | Archive.org ostensibly | 14:10 |
| jrwren | greg-g: I like the DSL mod-rewrite, the checking alone is worth it IMO | 15:00 |
| jrwren | an entire book on mod_rewrite is fucking nuts. | 15:13 |
| jrwren | link me to TOC please. | 15:13 |
| jrwren | http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Guide-Apache-mod_rewrite-Guides/dp/1590595610 at least it is only 160 pages | 15:19 |
| waf | boo, no chc for me tonight | 15:34 |
| waf | really curious how that new place will work out | 15:34 |
| rick_h_ | waf: booooooooo | 15:34 |
| cmaloney | I <3 when my computer decides to go offline | 16:22 |
| rick_h_ | no net for you | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | Well, when JoDee prints it sometimes triggers the UPS | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | which then triggers my machine to suspend | 16:23 |
| rick_h_ | printer on the UPS?! | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | which is a royal PITA | 16:23 |
| cmaloney | No, same circuit | 16:24 |
| rick_h_ | oh ouch | 16:24 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, because this house is from the golden age of electricity | 16:24 |
| cmaloney | When people were busily sitting in circles trying to shock each other and electricity was going to change the world. | 16:25 |
| brousch | You can tell it's old because there is a printer in it | 16:25 |
| waf | brousch++ | 16:31 |
| cmaloney | brousch: :-P | 16:31 |
| brousch | I bet there's even a landline and a fax machine | 16:33 |
| cmaloney | It's a multifunction | 16:34 |
| brousch | I knew it | 16:34 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: oo, interesting re upstreaming | 16:51 |
| greg-g | jrwren: yeah, agreed | 16:51 |
| rick_h_ | http://developer.chrome.com/devsummit | 17:44 |
| jrwren | gah! I fail at UTC. i missed all the UDS things I wanted to see today. | 18:18 |
| jrwren | fuk calendars | 18:18 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: :( | 18:20 |
| rick_h_ | but you caught the best one ever, the Gui stuff :P | 18:20 |
| greg-g | haha | 18:22 |
| jrwren | only for 2 seconds. | 18:22 |
| jrwren | i have zero interest in that. | 18:22 |
| jrwren | GUIs are for poeple who can't use a command line :p | 18:22 |
| jrwren | oh, and they are nice for graphs and reports | 18:22 |
| brousch | And phones | 18:23 |
| jrwren | yes phones! | 18:23 |
| jrwren | and tablets. | 18:23 |
| jrwren | i don't think I need to admin my cloud deployments from my phone or tab, but rick_h_ can prove me wrong | 18:23 |
| rick_h_ | no, it doesn't work on the phone or tablet :P | 18:24 |
| brousch | jrwren: Soon | 18:24 |
| jrwren | it just runs in browser, I thought. why not in ipad? | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | hey, quickstart is cli :P | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | we're juju UI team so we're doing some cli improvement stuff as well | 18:24 |
| jrwren | cool | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: because the UI isn't very touch friendly or size friendly to small screen | 18:24 |
| jrwren | omg, someone on this recording has some loud KB switches. | 18:26 |
| brousch | Those are the only screens that matter now! | 18:26 |
| jrwren | ^^^ | 18:26 |
| rick_h_ | yea, except funny thing, sysadmins aren't ditching their computers | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | devs aren't really either | 18:27 |
| rick_h_ | something about keyboard and non-touch input device being useful for development and such | 18:27 |
| brousch | Soon we'll all be dragging and dropping our way across development | 18:28 |
| jrwren | exactly | 18:29 |
| jrwren | i mean exactly to what rick_h_ said, not to the VB nonsense brousch said. | 18:29 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I think I've been hearing that for 20 years. "Drag and drop the user experience, and things will automagically wire themselves up" | 18:29 |
| rick_h_ | "See, it works great for my simple todo app...what you're not writing a todo app?" | 18:29 |
| brousch | Isn't that how Visual Studio works? | 18:30 |
| brousch | http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/10/30/microsoft-updates-windows-phone-app-studio-fast-resume-flipview-nfc-native-phone-functions-ad-sdk/ | 18:33 |
| brousch | "Microsoft today updated the Windows Phone App Studio, its free Web-based tool designed to help anyone create an app without coding." | 18:33 |
| cmaloney | That is Microsoft's white whale isn't it? | 18:34 |
| brousch | Also http://appinventor.mit.edu/ | 18:35 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: sorry, remind me what app you use daily that's done in appinventor? | 18:38 |
| brousch | Soon! | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | Doesn't he use the little button app that goes "ping!" | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | every single day. | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | I hate that app | 18:39 |
| brousch | I don't know that app | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | Well there you go: write an app that goes "ping" when you hit a button | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | and use that daily | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | and then I can hate you. | 18:39 |
| brousch | Ah, monty python | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | It's really simple, really. | 18:39 |
| brousch | I will make it with Kivy so it will be a 6MB app that goes ping | 18:40 |
| cmaloney | Now you're just showing off | 18:40 |
| rick_h_ | lmao http://r.bmark.us/u/e0d0cd294a49ac | 18:43 |
| brousch | cmaloney: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ma.android.ping | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | OK, that's just laden with awesome. | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | (was re: rick_h_'s comment) | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | brousch: You're missing the point | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | It needs to be something in app inventor that you use daily. :) | 18:44 |
| brousch | "The app now goes ping in a much more efficient manner. Also we added a "Ping Widget", which also goes ping.Some of our users claim that this app is useless. We beg to differ, it goes ping." | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | That's the whooooole point. | 18:44 |
| jrwren | ya'll are trashing UI designers, but iOS storyboards are actually VERY VERY good. | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I'ma let you finish but Android's the platform of the year. | 18:46 |
| brousch | 80% now | 18:46 |
| brousch | ios is a niche | 18:46 |
| * rick_h_ runs away from the insanity | 18:46 | |
| cmaloney | 1heh | 18:47 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: terrible troll there. you can do so much better. | 18:47 |
| brousch | jrwren: I saw a presentation on storyboards. They did look nice | 18:49 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: I know, but it felt right. ;) | 19:08 |
| waf | rick_h_: haha, i was just wondering about that twitter app / sms permission thing | 19:53 |
| waf | any idea what's going on? | 19:54 |
| waf | also, dropbox wanting to read my contacts is iffy | 19:54 |
| cmaloney | I have NFC what the Twitter SMS thing is | 19:57 |
| cmaloney | other than I wonder if they'll send via SMS if you have crap connectivity. | 19:57 |
| rick_h_ | waf: https://twitter.com/alsutton/status/389988175592296448 is maybe a hint? | 19:57 |
| cmaloney | http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/11/after-15-years-of-llama-whipping-aol-shuts-down-winamp-for-good/ | 20:03 |
| cmaloney | Wow, today is just full of great news. | 20:03 |
| * cmaloney actually bought it for Android | 20:03 | |
| cmaloney | http://onethingwell.org/post/67571145705/god | 20:14 |
| cmaloney | I'm so writing a chaos monkey for "God" and calling it "blasphemy" | 20:14 |
| jcastro | wow seriously | 20:41 |
| jcastro | kitkat on the motox before nexus? | 20:41 |
| * jcastro shakes rick_h_ | 20:41 | |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: meh, you're not missing anything | 20:44 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: but yea, shocked my N10 still doesn't have it | 20:44 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: but I did see it going out for the N4 today I thouoght | 20:44 |
| jcastro | yeah but OTA, so staggered | 20:44 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: gotcha | 20:44 |
| jcastro | also I saw the motox story before I scrolled down to the N4 one | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I mean I got the phone dailer and some blue/grey icons and that's about it | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | so much of the UX bits are N5 only | 20:45 |
| jcastro | what's the dialer supposed to be? | 20:45 |
| jcastro | I really wanted the merged hangout stuff | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | it's all based on searches and such now | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | well that's in the hangout app, I got that before the kitkat update | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | and it sucks because it doesn't work with Voice at all | 20:45 |
| rick_h_ | so I still have two text apps | 20:46 |
| jcastro | oh dude | 20:46 |
| jcastro | I thought it was all supposed to be merged into one? | 20:46 |
| jcastro | weak | 20:46 |
| rick_h_ | only your phone's built in SMS app is built in | 20:46 |
| rick_h_ | voice is still outside of that and all data-only | 20:46 |
| rick_h_ | so it's really just a replacement for SMS messages and doesn't do them over data or anything | 20:46 |
| rick_h_ | it's crap imo | 20:46 |
| jrwren | guess when iOS users get their updates? | 20:57 |
| jrwren | all at the same time. | 20:57 |
| rick_h_ | yep, and pick your phone, any phone, as long as it's one of these phones | 21:10 |
| rick_h_ | <3 my motox and ability to get that vs lots of other phones | 21:11 |
| rick_h_ | freaking wow http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Scroogled-Keep-Calm-Mug/productID.291428700 | 21:12 |
| rick_h_ | I'm completely knocked over at that | 21:12 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, apparently Microsoft's new venture is Cafe Press. ;) | 21:15 |
| greg-g | I'm just done trying to teach this coworker where they are misunderstood as they clearly don't care to learn | 23:59 |
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