[00:00] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, still nothin?
[00:00] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Depending on what you search it will think for a bit. What did you search for?
[00:00] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: OK, can you close it please and launch it from the terminal
[00:01] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, COmmand?
[00:01] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Then try searching again and look at the terminal for errors
[00:01] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Type qbittorrent
[00:02] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  I'm finally in "Passwords and Keys", but now when I attempt to change the Default keyring to a blank password, it says the original password was wrong.
[00:02] <Boneheads1999> I have no idea what the keyring password is..
[00:02] <Boneheads1999> I've just been entering in my user password
[00:02] <Duel-Travis> abaddon,  okay im searching again? still mnothing
[00:03] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: But what is the terminal showing?
[00:03] <Duel-Travis> nothing?
[00:03] <abaddon> !pastebin | Duel-Travis
[00:04] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: right click and select "delete" ?
[00:04] <fahadash> Would that be a possibility that I might have installed gnomenu 5 times and all 5 instances are running ?
[00:04] <Boneheads1999> Ben64 thank you omg omg omg it works now thank you so much
[00:04] <Duel-Travis> http://paste.kde.org/pcdde7553
[00:06] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: For any out put please past it to pastebin and send me a link please
[00:06] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: You're kidding? x.x...
[00:06] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: You opened a terminal launched qbittorrent and searched for something and nothing has poped up in the terminal screen?
[00:06] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, no?..
[00:06] <Danato> is there a way to control touchpad's sensitivity on kde?
[00:06] <Danato> mine is so sensitive it starts crying before i touch it
[00:06] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: What is happening in the search section for qbittorrent? Does it show any indication ofn searching for anything?
[00:07] <unicornjedi> hey can someone help me get owncloud working?
[00:07] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, omg! Wrong search bar!
[00:07] <Danato> no serious, it double clicks when i click once and clicks when i hover, way too sensitive
[00:07] <Raymond_313> Hi.
[00:07] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Heh...heh...heh.... T.T Scared me for a moment
[00:08] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, Why does my dl say Stalled?
[00:08] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: That happens till it finds peers
[00:09] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Just give it a second or two. Fewer seeds means a longer stall period till it connects
[00:09] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: I know, slightly confusing. =P
[00:10] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Everything working?
[00:13] <Duel-Travis> .1%
[00:14] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: ???
[00:14] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, its at 0.1%
[00:15] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Ahhh, ok. Well, everything good your end? You may want to look at the settings to improve the dling.
[00:16] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, what should I change?
[00:16] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Uno moment por favor, leme see my settings
[00:16] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, :)
[00:17] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Mmmk, go to Tools>Options>Connection
[00:18] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: May want to boost your connection limits
[00:19] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Then go to Speed and set the upload and dload settings to your desired numbers
[00:19] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Usualy, you set it to 75% or your total dl and upload count
[00:21] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Ie, you got 24MB down and 4MB up yould set dl to be about 18-19MB or 18000-19000KiB
[00:21] <user_> Hello guys
[00:21] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: And upload to 3024KiB up
[00:22] <fishscene> 24MB or 24mb?
[00:22] <tc0nn_> 75% is the same whether it B or b
[00:22] <abaddon> fishscene: Uhhhhh...>.> Ether or?? -shrugs-
[00:23] <abaddon> fishscene: I think it's Mb or MB
[00:23] <bekks> abaddon: when having 24mb down and 4mb up, you set the download to 24mb, and the upstream to 4mb up.
[00:23] <abaddon> fishscene: No clue, he'll see it in the settings
[00:23] <bekks> abaddon: having 24/4, that is already asynchronous.
[00:24] <abaddon> bekks: Not so, it's recomended to do 75% of both
[00:24] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, So under global rate limits on upload what do i put and on dl what do i put?
[00:24] <bekks> abaddon: Who recommends that where and why?
[00:24] <abaddon> bekks: This compensates for other connections
[00:24] <abaddon> bekks: Le internetz recommends it.
[00:24] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: What's your connection?
[00:24] <bekks> abaddon: The interwebs are wrong, since obviously they have no clue about QoS apparently. :)
[00:25] <abaddon> bekks: QoS may or may not be enabled
[00:25] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Let me get you a link to test your connection
[00:26] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, okay
[00:28] <bunduru> followed the openvpn guide but last step is not returning what it should, i see no tun0 interface :s
[00:28] <bunduru> any tips?
[00:28] <Duel-Travis> abaddon,  htttp://www.myspeedtest.net?
[00:29] <tc0nn_> bunduru: Did you modprobe it or reboot yet? "modprobe tun"
[00:29] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: That works
[00:29] <bunduru> tc0nn_, i haven't reboot yet just started the service as they say and tested
[00:30] <tc0nn_> lsmod | grep tun
[00:30] <unicornjedi> Hello I need help with owncloud. I get this error . * */ $RUNTIME_NOAPPS = true; //no apps, yet require_once 'lib/base.php'; OC::handleRequest();
[00:30] <bunduru> ifconfig tun0 but no such interface
[00:30] <tc0nn_> bunduru: if nothing, you might try "modprobe tun"
[00:30] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, Okay Download is 7.71mbps, Upload is 0.67
[00:31] <bekks> Duel-Travis: thats pretty far from 24/4
[00:31] <bunduru> lsmod | grep tun > returned nothing
[00:31] <tc0nn_> bunduru: try the modprobe
[00:31] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Sooo...set that to about 5025KiB Down and up to 423KiB up
[00:31] <tc0nn_> bunduru: the tunnel interface won't show up until the kernel module is loaded (either manually or via reboot)
[00:32] <Crimson_Rogue> Hello. I'm having an issue with ubuntu 13.10. My computer has decided it won't do any java operations in firefox or chrome
[00:32] <Crimson_Rogue> can someone help me with this issue, please?
[00:32] <bunduru> modprobe tun or tun0?
[00:32] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: That's my guestamation for what 75% of that is,lol
[00:32] <tc0nn_> bunduru:    modprobe tun
[00:32] <tc0nn_> bunduru:  you could have 10 tunnels, so it doesn't care which interface specifically.
[00:33] <bunduru> tc0nn_, did as you said modprobe tun
[00:33] <bunduru> but still nothing maybe now restart openvpn service?
[00:33] <tc0nn_> bunduru:  Looks like openvpn is supposed to set that up via  /etc/openvpn/setup-tun.sh
[00:34] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Thenk check the Bittorent section and check the DHT box
[00:34] <unicornjedi> Crimson_Rogue, Try installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras packages?
[00:34] <Crimson_Rogue> They are installed unicornjedi
[00:34] <bunduru> tc0nn_, =/ weird the guide was great until the last step failed XD
[00:34] <unicornjedi> Crimson_Rogue, yea I got nothinf'
[00:35] <Crimson_Rogue> see, I'll have a button like "Click here" and I can see in the bottom Left hand corner that it does a java script function... I click the click here button, and it does ... well... absolutely nothing
[00:36] <bekks> Crimson_Rogue: Javascript has absolutely nothing to do with Java.
[00:36] <Crimson_Rogue> okay... any idea why the javascript wouldn't be working in firefox bekks?
[00:36] <bunduru> tc0nn_, followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openvpn.html
[00:36] <Duel-Travis> abaddon, Much faster ty@!
[00:37] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: XD Np, all good then?
[00:37] <bekks> Crimson_Rogue: Because most likely the script is broken or you are using some script blocking addon.
[00:37] <Duel-Travis> abaddon,  Yea
[00:37] <Crimson_Rogue> they say it loads perfectly fine in windows, so.... I know it's not broken...
[00:37] <unicornjedi> can someone help me with owncloud?
[00:37] <Crimson_Rogue> how would I find out if the addon is causing a problem?
[00:38] <Crimson_Rogue> or if I even have the addon?
[00:38] <tc0nn_> bunduru:   What you do a "/etc/init.d/openvpn restart" does it error out?
[00:38] <bekks> Crimson_Rogue: By looking at the installed addons
[00:38] <abaddon> Duel-Travis: Awesome sauce mate
[00:38] <Crimson_Rogue> okay, I'll look... thx bekks
[00:38] <bunduru> tc0nn_,  no it starts normally
[00:39] <Crimson_Rogue> could a google bot user agent be the problem bekks?
[00:39] <tc0nn_> bunduru:  dunno. At this point, you're chasing something else like 1) apparmor is blocking 2) module is blacklisted 3) hail-mary .. just reboot
[00:40] <abaddon> tc0nn_: +1
[00:40] <bunduru> tc0nn_, output is:
[00:40] <bunduru> * Stopping virtual private network daemon(s)...                                 *   No VPN is running.
[00:40] <bunduru>  * Starting virtual private network daemon(s)...                                 *   Autostarting VPN 'server'
[00:41] <tc0nn_> bunduru: check your logs. Something has to be logging an error.. ls -lat /var/log/*     and look at any logfile that has been touched since you hit the restart
[00:42] <tc0nn_> bunduru:   you might want to grep that down too, or maybe "ls -lat /var/log/* | head"
[00:43] <tc0nn_> abaddon: was the +1 for sarcasm or for a free cookie at the local 4bux?
[00:43] <bunduru> lol
[00:43] <Crimson_Rogue> yes, was the google bot user agent...
[00:44] <bunduru> it sucks when things don't work as expected =/
[00:44] <abaddon> tc0nn_: I like the hail-marry part. -shrugs- When all else fails reboot
[00:45] <tc0nn_> abaddon: well, I learned something from all those years trying fix windoze users' issues
[00:46] <abaddon> tc0nn_: Amen brutha amen....
[00:46] <tc0nn_> not to say a common fix for Ubuntu problems is rebooting, by no means... The only time I typically reboot is to get a fresh kernel
[00:46] <ki4ro> Anyone know how to get Rhythmbox under 13.10 to recognize my MP3 player?
[00:47] <tc0nn_> John?
[00:47] <abaddon> tc0nn_: True, still, meh....
[00:48] <abaddon> tc0nn_: ?John?
[00:50] <tc0nn_> abaddon: either I'm wrong or he doesn't want called out :)
[00:50] <abaddon> tc0nn_: Oh, you're not calling me john, ok, doy.
[00:50] <abaddon> =p
[00:52] <tc0nn_> Anyone know partman/preseed recipes well? Been farting around all day trying to get a 4 partition recipe working.
[00:53] <abaddon>  ki4ro What exactly is going on? You can't get your mp3 player mounted or you can't get your mp3 player found as you got to play the songs?
[00:54] <abaddon> tc0nn_: That was cryptic?
[00:55] <tc0nn_> Trying to tweak preseed auto-installs. The "recipe" as they call it for partitioning is very cryptic.
[00:55] <tc0nn_> Example:
[00:55] <tc0nn_> 100 100 100 reiserfs $primary{ } $bootable{ } method{ format } format{ } device{ /dev/sda } use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ reiserfs } mountpoint{ /boo
[00:55] <tc0nn_> t } . \
[00:55] <tc0nn_> 256 2000 50% linux-swap device{ /dev/sda } method{ swap } format{ } . \
[00:55] <tc0nn_> 500 80000 1000000000 reiserfs method{ format } format{ } device{ /dev/sda } use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ reiserfs } mountpoint{ / } options/noatime{
[00:55] <tc0nn_>  noatime } options/notail{ notail } .
[00:55] <FloodBot1> tc0nn_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <abaddon> tc0nn_: Mmmm...beyond my skill lvl. X.X sorry
[00:55] <tc0nn_> meh!
[00:55] <ki4ro> abaddon, It shows on the far left but neither Banshee nor Rhythmbox can see it
[00:55] <tc0nn_> mine too evidently
[00:56] <abaddon> ki4ro: It shows where on the left?
[00:56] <bunduru> dev tun is uncommented in the server.conf so wth
[00:56] <bunduru> :s
[00:56] <abaddon> ki4ro: Can you move to the birectory and launch an mp3 that way?
[00:57] <ki4ro> abaddon you mean play a song off the mp3 player?
[00:58] <abaddon> ki4ro: Yes..I think? Like...plug it in, open your filebrowser and go to the mp3 players directory
[00:58] <abaddon> ki4ro: Does that work to launch the music that way?
[00:58] <bunduru> well tc0nn i'm going the the reboot XD
[00:58] <ki4ro> abaddon, standby
[00:59] <bunduru> wish me luck i guess
[00:59] <bunduru> lol
[00:59] <abaddon> ki4ro: Mk
[01:01] <ki4ro> abaddon, Okay, it opened Banshee and started playing the song, but still doesn´t show up in Banshee
[01:01] <tc0nn> GL OM! GL!
[01:01] <kostkon> ki4ro, create an empty file called .is_audio_player on your player, unplug it and plug it in
[01:01] <ki4ro> kostkon, standby
[01:01] <kostkon> ki4ro, dont forget the .
[01:02] <abaddon> ki4ro: I'm sorry, what exactly is supposed to show up?Mmmk, looks like kostkon has you covered
[01:03] <abaddon> Thx kostkon
[01:03] <kostkon> abaddon, np
[01:04] <bunduru> didn't solve =(
[01:06] <ki4ro> kostkon, where should the file be created...which directory?
[01:07] <tc0nn> bunduru: do you even have tun module?
[01:07] <tc0nn> bunduru: is this your custom kernel or a repo/distributed one?
[01:07] <kostkon> ki4ro, the root dir of your player, the top one
[01:07] <bunduru> no i'm a newb =P
[01:07] <bunduru> it the default one
[01:08] <ki4ro> kostkon, Okay did that and when I plug it back in the file is gone
[01:08] <ki4ro> or appears to be
[01:08] <bunduru> tc0nn, /dev/net/tun exists
[01:08] <kostkon> ki4ro, it is a hidden file, select view -> show hidden files in nautilus
[01:08] <bunduru> is this the module?
[01:08] <ki4ro> kostkon, okay standby
[01:08] <abaddon> ki4ro: Files with a . at the begining arte hidden
[01:09] <ki4ro> kostkon, Okay got it
[01:10] <ki4ro> abaddon, I remember that now...thanks
[01:10] <abaddon> ki4ro: np =]
[01:10] <luckybunny> hi folks
[01:11] <luckybunny> will it be possible/wise to use Wayland on ubuntu?
[01:11] <luckybunny> I searched the web with this, but ended up repeatedly reading articles from 2010 when ubuntu was going wayland anyway
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> !wqyland
[01:13] <luckybunny> !wayland
[01:13] <OerHeks> luckybunny, not yet > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
[01:13] <OerHeks> ubuntu is heading for xmir/mir
[01:13] <luckybunny> ...
[01:13] <luckybunny> I know that
[01:14] <abaddon> luckybunny: Ohh mai...fun conversation. XD
[01:14] <ki4ro> kostkon, Okay, now what...when I plug it in now the system recognizes it as having picture capability but not music
[01:14] <kostkon> ki4ro, ignore the popup, try in banshee rhytmbox
[01:14] <ki4ro> kostkon, standby
[01:15] <luckybunny> was just wondering if I (end user) would be able to just say 'screw mir' and install Wayland instead, without practically destroying my UX
[01:15] <abaddon> luckybunny: Wayland may be made compatabil with ubu. But if not you can pick a distro/dirivative of ubu that will use it.
[01:16] <abaddon> luckybunny: Imho it will be fine to use.
[01:16] <luckybunny> main reason is because I'm hearing Wayland and XWayland are virtually ready for prime time already, while Mir is finished but there's issues with XMir, pushing back prime time til at least 14.10
[01:16] <abaddon> luckybunny: You'll just have to find pkgs not dependant on mir
[01:17] <tc0nn> !partman
[01:17] <abaddon> luckybunny: It's a crap shot -shrugs-
[01:18] <ki4ro> kostkon, Neither can see it yet
[01:18] <tc0nn> I just copied an example 500 times more difficult than my silly little 4 partition scheme and it worked.. WTH! Time to go home.
[01:19] <kostkon> ki4ro, hmm. make sure that the mass storage device and mtp plugins are enabled in rhythmbox banshee
[01:19] <ki4ro> kostkon, standy
[01:22] <ki4ro> kostkon, Looking at configure plugins and see mtp but do not see mass storage device
[01:22] <kostkon> ki4ro, ok
[01:23] <ki4ro> kostkon, mtp was already selected
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro:  You used the mp3 music file as the source?
[01:25] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, excuse me?  I do no understand
[01:25] <ki4ro> *not
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro: this is still the mp3 right?
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> player
[01:25] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, Yep, still trying to get it seen under 13.10
[01:26] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, Thought I would ask again to see if there was any new blood around
[01:26]  * reisio fires panel
[01:26] <reisio> whoops
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro: in rhytmbox is the path, is it pointed at the folder in the player that contains the media?
[01:27] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, kostkon has had some ideas but nothing has panned out yet
[01:28] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, Sorry, do not understand what you want me to do
[01:29] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, rhythmbox cannot see it if that is what you are asking
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro: I gave you the exact path earlier, in preferences is the area where to set the path to the media you want to use
[01:32] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, Music files are placed in: file:///home/jackie/Music
[01:32] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, Is that what you are talking about?
[01:33] <ki4ro> wilee-nilee, My wife needs something...appreciate everything and kostkon too...bbl
[01:35] <abaddon> I'm off guys, ciao
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, you point the browse in preferences at the file inn the mp3 player the media is in.
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> !rhythmbox | ki4ro
[01:39] <bunduru> wooo go ti working
[01:39] <bunduru> *it
[01:39] <TheyTookErJobs> !yay bunduru
[01:40] <TheyTookErJobs> :)
[01:40] <TheyTookErJobs> Don't know what it is but a feat none-the-less!
[01:40] <bunduru> this should be added to openvpn guide i think.. "openvpn --mktun --dev tun0"
[01:40] <TheyTookErJobs> !samba
[01:40] <bunduru> hehe :D
[01:40] <paulmonochrome> hi all
[01:41] <paulmonochrome> i need some help
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, I suspect you are not saying "hey where is the preference" your version has a dropdown in the top bar, import-music-other-the music file in the mp3 player
[01:41] <paulmonochrome> i need to get list of packages by source (like in synaptic "Origin > Local")
[01:41] <bunduru> without that line, the last "check" on that guide wont ever work
[01:43] <bunduru> TheyTookErJobs, Deytoothertoor
[01:43] <paulmonochrome> i've watched source code of synaptic but cant find nothing
[01:43] <bunduru> theytootheyjoo
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> ki4ro, Then back to browse to see the music after it is loaded.
[01:43] <bunduru> lol
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> bunduru, stop posting nonsense.
[01:45] <bunduru> TheyTookErJobs, got to love southpark ;)
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> !ot | bunduru
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> This is not chat, there is a channel for that
[01:45] <paulmonochrome> of course in dpkg, apt-get and aptitude  manpages is nothing helpful
[01:46] <FFox> #join ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <bunduru> take it easy wilee-nilee or sue me
[01:46] <bunduru> i was here for the support but it didn't work out very well mkay
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> bunduru, I'm asking you nicely to follow the channel rules like the rest of us are.
[01:47] <bunduru> sure boss
[01:47] <bunduru> right away
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> !ops | bunduru
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> I hope you don;t ever really need help.
[01:47] <paulmonochrome> is my question offtopic?
[01:47] <reisio> paulmonochrome: which question?
[01:47] <bunduru> omg how old are you.. better yet what's wrong with you
[01:48] <paulmonochrome> i need to get list of packages by source (like in synaptic "Origin > Local")
[01:48] <elky> bunduru: you've been asked to take random nonsense out of this channel.
[01:48] <paulmonochrome> of course in dpkg, apt-get and aptitude  manpages is nothing helpful
[01:48] <paulmonochrome> i've watched source code of synaptic but cant find nothing
[01:50] <bunduru> got it the first time
[01:52] <TheyTookErJobs> Question - I cannot get my samba share to show. Here is the pastebin of my config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6445886/ I did not create a new directory but would just like to share the whole drive that is mounted. It's formatted ntfs but nothing can see it
[01:52] <TheyTookErJobs> (folder sharing settings at the very bottom)
[01:55] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, when I ls -l it shows root root as the owner. Since this is a direct mount can I change the ownership or do I need to create a separate directory and ln it to this one?
[01:59] <deuclion> hello
[02:00] <reisio> deuclion: 'lo
[02:02] <FWB> Hello guys, i have a question about Ubuntu 12.04 32 bit, can i run it in an old PC (1GB RAM or less), 20gb of disk space and probably intel pentium 3 or 4?
[02:03] <reisio> FWB: yeah
[02:03] <reisio> FWB: Xfce would be more performant, but yeah
[02:03] <icesvencn> hello？
[02:04] <reisio> 'lo
[02:04] <icesvencn> I need help,is anyone would like to help me ?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> FWB, May not be pae compliant so the suggested desktop is a good start, if you have to have ubuntu, you may have to do a net install to bypass the pae.
[02:05] <FWB> Oh nice, and what about an older PC? like pentium M or D (don't remember the name, but it was 900Mhz with a low ram, probably no more than 512mb), because i'm searching for a Linux stable OS to use them as internet plataforms.
[02:05] <reisio> FWB: Xfce would still work
[02:05] <reisio> LXDE might be a wee tad lighter, minus some features
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> icesvencn, Tell the channel the issues for help.
[02:07] <FWB> I'll try with Xfce and if it doesn't perform well i'll try with LXDE.
[02:07] <FWB> Thank you for your help.
[02:07] <icesvencn> Thank you ,<wilee-nilee>,I want to known which website I can get the informations about the VPN or how to hide my ip
[02:07] <paulmonochrome> FWB lubuntu works fine on pentium-m 900 mhz
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> icesvencn, No prob, not something I really know, but others do. ;)
[02:09] <FWB> Oh, if it works fine i'll try lubuntu. :)
[02:09] <reisio> FWB: either will
[02:09] <reisio> I ran Xfce on less than that
[02:09] <reisio> not familiar enough with LXDE to be able to say if you'll miss anything from Xfce, though
[02:09] <ldiamond> Ubuntu reports that I have no space left on my root drive. I cleaned up 6-7 GBs last time (less than a month ago).
[02:09] <reisio> the more you install, of course, the worse it will perform :)
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> FWB, You can have both. ;)
[02:09] <ldiamond> What makes the root fs fill up so fast? (my home dir is on a different drive)
[02:09] <reisio> ldiamond: time again? :)
[02:10] <reisio> ldiamond: /var/log/ ? /tmp/ ?
[02:10] <v_y> how do i delete a dangling link with rm?
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> ldiamond, If you are having errors that will filler up.
[02:10] <ldiamond> reisio, I ran du on my root fs earlier. didn't add up to half the size allocated
[02:10] <ldiamond> running again with a less restrictive filter.
[02:11] <FWB> I'm very new to ubuntu, but the standar 12.04 LTS is Xfce?
[02:11] <reisio> ldiamond: try running baobab
[02:11] <reisio> FWB: no
[02:11] <dinosrule> FWB: no, that would be Xubuntu
[02:11] <reisio> FWB: Xubuntu, or install xubuntu-desktop after installation, or install xfce4 stuff on its own
[02:12] <ldiamond> reisio, nah, baobab doesn't let me exclude /home and /media.
[02:12] <ldiamond> at least I didn't find how
[02:13] <reisio> ldiamond: find / -size +1G -exec du -hs {} \; | sort -h
[02:13] <reisio> can help find big files fast
[02:14] <FWB> What's the difference beetwen desktop and alternate?
[02:14] <reisio> s/1G/500M/, etc.
[02:14] <reisio> FWB: the "desktop" installer has a lot of fancy graphics you don't need to install
[02:14] <reisio> which can potentially fail
[02:14] <reisio> making it harder to install
[02:14] <reisio> so more comfortable for the average user to install with, with a trade off of a higher chance something will fail
[02:15] <reisio> fewer options exposed, too, IIRC
[02:15] <FWB> Well, i'll use alternate then
[02:15] <reisio> the alternate would theoretically also make a worse spare live OS, too
[02:15] <reisio> as it has less software on it
[02:15] <reisio> tradeoffs everywhere :)
[02:16] <ldiamond> wow
[02:16] <paulmonochrome> i'm trying kubuntu on pentium-m with all peckages rebuilding for this cpu, because qt optimises better after recompilation, and it works fine too о__О
[02:16] <ldiamond> $ tmux
[02:16] <ldiamond> can't create socket: No space left on device
[02:16] <reisio> ldiamond: try as root
[02:16] <Danato> i wanna install ubuntu on my nokia 3310 o.o
[02:16] <reisio> do eet
[02:17] <Danato> that would be awesome lol
[02:18] <paulmonochrome> Danato it will be cool
[02:20] <yeyeman> there is like 5 versions of java
[02:20] <yeyeman> which should I get for learning to program it?
[02:20] <reisio> yeyeman: none
[02:20] <reisio> learn Python instead
[02:20] <yeyeman> I already know python
[02:21] <reisio> yeyeman: learn befunge instead, then
[02:21] <Peyam> yeyeman, python is the easiest one to begin with.
[02:21] <reisio> openjdk-?-jre
[02:21] <reisio> waste of time, terrible language, has no future
[02:22] <Peyam> yeyeman, I recommend c++  otherwise. I do java in Android programming
[02:22] <Peyam> yeyeman, when you know c++ in basic level you may begin with qt
[02:22] <reisio> :/
[02:23] <reisio> Qt also has no future
[02:23] <Peyam> reisio, what language has a future then?
[02:23] <reisio> C has, Python has for a while at least, Go maybe
[02:23] <reisio> sh isn't going anywhere :)
[02:23] <dinosrule> rotflmao
[02:23] <reisio> and befunge of course
[02:24] <Peyam> reisio, I dont like python library
[02:24] <reisio> in the future we'll use befunge with dem quantum computadors
[02:24] <reisio> Peyam: so?
[02:24] <yeyeman> what is befunge?
[02:24] <Peyam> reisio, I dont like it. Qt works very good for me. in mathematics I use MATLAB and octave
[02:24] <yeyeman> I want to work as a programmer in the future
[02:24] <elky> reisio: you're not being helpful.
[02:24] <Peyam> yeyeman, in what ? indutry? gaming? ..
[02:25] <reisio> sure I am
[02:25] <elky> no you're not.
[02:25] <yeyeman> Peyam, probably gaming
[02:25] <dinosrule> yeyeman: best ignore reisio. The answer to your actual question is "default-jre", which will install some version of OpenJDK that works fine.
[02:25] <reisio> elky: well if you say so I guess it must be true
[02:25] <Peyam> yeyeman, Java
[02:25] <Danato> its hard to predict the future, the creator of MINIX said that Linux would have no future, because it was too dependent of X86 which according to him also would have no future... well that was on the 90's
[02:25] <reisio> Linux has a future, just not an eternal one
[02:25] <yeyeman> dinosrule, thanks
[02:26] <dinosrule> yeyeman: oh, and you want default-jdk too, since you'll be writing programs
[02:26] <Danato> reisio: nothing does :)
[02:27] <reisio> Danato: bananas
[02:27] <Peyam> yeyeman,  I can recommend c++ in gaming becouse of lack of protection from memmory leaks. C# iis very good programming games. Java is not avalilable in consoles. so you will end up with c#
[02:27] <dinosrule> also BeOS
[02:27] <Peyam> yeyeman, *Ican't *
[02:28] <yeyeman> java
[02:28] <yeyeman> seems obsolete
[02:29] <Peyam> yeyeman, and it depend for which platform you want o make games in. but when you learn one language in gaming you will easy learn others
[02:29] <Peyam> yeyeman, I recommend java and C#, especially C# becouse of it's easyness
[02:29] <reisio> yeyeman: yarp
[02:29] <Peyam> reisio, what areyou talking about?
[02:30] <reisio> Peyam: when?
[02:30] <Peyam> yarp
[02:30] <reisio> Peyam: oh, means agreement
[02:30] <Danato> bananas
[02:30] <reisio> Danato: yarp
[02:30] <Peyam> reisio, what does it stands for?
[02:30]  * dinosrule points the non-support discussion towards #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:30] <reisio> Peyam: mispronounced 'yes'-like stuff
[02:31] <Danato> Peyam: something like yup in a funny way to say it
[02:31] <Peyam> It should be yapp
[02:31] <Peyam> okej okej Now I got it
[02:31] <ldiamond> reisio, just found that: 15374.6MB /tmp/tmpf9PQ42N sh
[02:31] <reisio> ldiamond: fun
[02:31] <ldiamond> using lsof
[02:31] <Danato> Peyam: *okay
[02:31] <reisio> ldiamond: be curious to know what
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> ldiamond, heh 15 gigs
[02:32] <reisio> yeah that's a nice one
[02:32] <Peyam> Danato, swedish, okej = Okey = Okay
[02:32] <Peyam> what is shiznt?
[02:32] <milk> Good evening all. Can anyone please advise how I can remove vim-tiny [7.2] without removing ubuntu-minimal? I'd like to build Vim from source to get 7.3.
[02:32] <elky> Peyam: it's a discussion for another place. this is a technical support channel
[02:32] <Peyam> okej
[02:32] <Danato> Peyam: i know, ive got some Swedish friends and i'm always correcting them lol
[02:33] <zykotick9> milk: what's the feature in 7.3 you need?
[02:33] <ldiamond> Really wondering what that's all about
[02:34] <milk> zykotick9: A number of the vimscripts I use require 7.3.
[02:34] <zykotick9> milk: ok, so long as you actually HAVE a reason.  best of luck.
[02:35] <zykotick9> !info vim
[02:35] <milk> zykotick9: Hehe, thanks.
[02:35] <ldiamond> VLC recording my webcam (though no webcam is plugged in)
[02:35] <evanvarvell> shiznt is the opposite of shizare  or shizis
[02:35] <zykotick9> milk: are you on 12.04?
[02:36] <zykotick9> milk: i fired up my vim, and EVEN i have 7.3...
[02:37] <milk> zykotick9: 10.4.2 LTS, and it's not my server ;/
[02:37] <zykotick9> milk: pufff EOL... get a supported release
[02:38] <zykotick9> milk: 10.04 is supported on server still, but...
[02:40] <evanvarvell> maybe shiznt is opposite shizam
[02:40] <ldiamond> Cool, just saved 15gb!
[02:41] <reisio> ldiamond: what was it?
[02:42] <ldiamond> vlc automatically recording video and buffering on /tmp
[02:42] <reisio> ah
[02:44] <ki4ro> evanvarvell, now that's funny!
[02:45] <milk> zykotick9: Server owner isn't a big vim fan so prolly wouldn't pander to my editor preference. Apparently I can use dpkg directly to remove it, but then apt will get confused later on..
[02:46] <zykotick9> milk: ya, i don't think it's gonna be easy.  vim-tiny is "core" and apt is NOT gonna like it being removed!  this MIGHT be a lot more work then it's worth?  best of luck.
[02:47] <zykotick9> milk: the server owner might not be happy if you break the entire install, just to update vim...
[02:48] <milk> zykotick9: Cheers, and true. I see there's a Launchpad issue for it - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/998309 - but no change there since last year. Och!
[02:48] <jnpplf> Any suggestions as to why my update manager, moving from 13.04 to 13.10, segfaults after "extracting 'saucy.tar.gz'"?
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, why is there a tar of saucy?
[02:52] <jnpplf> I don't know, that's what falls out of the terminal if I start update-manager -d
[02:52] <jnpplf> I'm not fetching anything manually
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, No reason to use the terminal, the update manager will do it if software sources is set for all upgrades, look on the setup for that tar and make sure you have removed any ppa's and extra repos.
[02:54] <zykotick9> jnpplf: and if you take the -d out, any change?  fyi, -d is for "development" (aka beta)
[02:54] <jnpplf> No, update manager fails silently, that's why I ran it from the terminal.
[02:54] <jnpplf> I couldn't find a pertinent log entry, but was maybe looking in the wrong place
[02:55] <jnpplf> I'm informed that there's a new version, it downloads the release upgrade tool (apparently), then dies
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, You have 13.04 backed up?
[02:55] <jnpplf> Eh, it's not a critical install
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> jnpplf, A fresh install would be much faster.
[02:56] <jnpplf> It's not that uncritical :p
[02:57] <jnpplf> I would definitely rather fix the issue than start again or go through a backup/restore
[03:06] <jnpplf> am trying do-release-upgrade now, seems to be making progress
[03:09] <buu> I don't suppose anyone knows how to get netflix-desktop working with hw-acceleration? When I enable it and launch a siverlight app the app disappears completely but I Still get sound coming out
[03:11] <reisio> is netflix-desktop using pipelight at this point?
[03:11] <shroomduke> after installing xubuntu I seem to have two screen savers running and other duplicate daemons
[03:12] <shroomduke> are there any known  problems with having gnome, LXDE, xubuntu, openbox installed at the same time?
[03:13] <Duel-Travis> Someone help me with skype?
[03:13] <Duel-Travis> When someone tries to call me and I answer
[03:13] <Duel-Travis> It shuts down
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> !enter | Duel-Travis
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, It is a bit of a power hog, could this be an issue?
[03:15] <Duel-Travis> oh idk.
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, Have you used it successfully?
[03:15] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, what is the issue?
[03:16] <MobGod> can someone tell me what FTP program they suggest
[03:16] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, When someone calls me they cant hear me and skype force closes
[03:16] <Duel-Travis> MobGod, FIleZilla
[03:16] <MobGod> for some reason i thought ubuntu came with one but i don't see one so i need to install it
[03:16] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, do you have 32bits files installed?
[03:16] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, not sure.
[03:16] <MobGod> Duel-Travis don't think filezilla will work with command line
[03:17] <shroomduke> did you try typing ftp at the command prompt MobGod
[03:17] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, do you use a 64 bits system? is it 13.10 or 04?
[03:17] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[03:18] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, 64 bit, .10
[03:18] <Peyam> MobGod, filezilla is what I use.
[03:18] <Duel-Travis> ^
[03:18] <MobGod> shroomduke yes that does work but i need to FTP into that machine and i keep getting connection failed
[03:18] <Peyam> Duel-Travis,  13.10 should have the 32 preinstalled, last time I checked but try to run the command I gave you and tell me what it says
[03:18] <Duel-Travis> package has no installation candidate
[03:19] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, yes. it is becouse it already has it.
[03:19] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, where did you installed skype from?
[03:19] <MobGod> shroomduke do you suggest anything ?
[03:19] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, try this : sudo dpkg –add-architecture i386
[03:19] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, Skype website?
[03:19] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, you shouldnt
[03:19] <guest_____> How do I add widget icons (bottom center) in XFCE as seen in Mac laptops?
[03:19] <Peyam> try the command I gave you
[03:20] <Peyam> guest_____,  you mean docky?
[03:21] <guest_____> Peyam, yes. Are there others available that are similar?
[03:21] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, it said error need an action option
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, You have a panel there, do you not want it?
[03:21] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, uninstall skype!
[03:21] <Duel-Travis> how?
[03:21] <Duel-Travis> sudo apt-get purge skype?
[03:21] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, doen't  sudo apt-get remove skype work?
[03:22] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, idk want me to try?
[03:22] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, yes
[03:22] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, okay Removing
[03:22] <Peyam> good
[03:22] <guest_____> Peyam, the default is cool but I would like to customize it for my most often used apps.
[03:22] <Peyam> when the uninstalation is done , try this command : sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[03:22] <Crimson_Rogue> hello. I'm running sudo apt-get upgrade and I get this message: No such key 'auto-launch' in schema 'com.ubuntu.update-notifier' as specified in override file '/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_xubuntu-default-settings.gschema.override'; ignoring override for this key.
[03:22] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, okay done
[03:23] <Crimson_Rogue> what does this mean?
[03:23] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, okay added?
[03:23] <MobGod> Duel-Travis maybe you can answer since shroomduke left me
[03:23] <Peyam> guest_____,  right click > ad new item > launcher
[03:23] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[03:23] <trism> Crimson_Rogue: it's not a big deal, auto-launch is an old key that I guess xubuntu disabled, but it's gone in 13.10
[03:23] <Duel-Travis> MobGod, What was your question?
[03:23] <Crimson_Rogue> okay, so how do I fix it?
[03:24] <Crimson_Rogue> and it is a big deal... Security Breach @ trism
[03:24] <trism> Crimson_Rogue: it's not broken, but you could remove the key from /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/20_xubuntu-default-settings.gschema.override if you care that much
[03:24] <Peyam> Crimson_Rogue, update via  software updater and tell me the message!
[03:24] <trism> Crimson_Rogue: it isn't a security issue, it ignores non-existent keys, it just complains about them
[03:24] <Crimson_Rogue> give me a sec
[03:25] <guest_____> Peyam, right click --> Create New Launcher ?
[03:25] <Crimson_Rogue> I don't want my box complaining about anything...
[03:25] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, installing
[03:25] <Crimson_Rogue> I want my box to be happy
[03:25] <Peyam> guest_____, right click > panel>add new item! and choose launcher from the menu
[03:26] <MobGod> ftp can't login
[03:26] <MobGod> anyway i can check if it's running
[03:26] <trism> Crimson_Rogue: then remove the key as I just said, and subscribe to bug 1227637
[03:26] <Peyam> MobGod, what host do you use?
[03:26] <Crimson_Rogue> thank you ubottu
[03:26] <Crimson_Rogue> thank you trism
[03:26] <MobGod> Peyam host ?
[03:27] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, okay done?
[03:27] <Peyam> MobGod, try to remove you account and log in again
[03:27] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, so. launch skype
[03:27] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, Why dont creators update this?
[03:27] <Peyam> Duel-Travis, does it work?
[03:27] <Duel-Travis> Peyam, Testing
[03:27] <MobGod> /
[03:28] <MobGod> could it be possible that it's noit running Peyam
[03:28] <MobGod> not*
[03:28] <Peyam> MobGod, I have similiar problem with my ftp and I just remove my account and log in again. it works after some tries
[03:29] <MobGod> Peyam i don't think it's running because i keep getting connection refused
[03:29] <Peyam> MobGod, then kill it first
[03:29] <MobGod> Peyam so how do i check to see if it's even running ATM
[03:30] <Peyam> Kill it and try to log in again!
[03:30] <MobGod> Peyam what is the command
[03:30] <Peyam> just try to file > quit
[03:30] <Crimson_Rogue> could someone tell me a different way to upgrade to 14.04 pre-beta other than sudo do-release-upgrade -d; because I get the following errors: http://pastebin.com/NA8pmYTu
[03:30] <MobGod> i mean to check for FTP
[03:30] <Peyam> MobGod, Other wise look at task manager
[03:30] <MobGod> Peyam there is no file
[03:30] <MobGod> no task manger
[03:30] <MobGod> this is using a shell
[03:30] <MobGod> command line
[03:31] <MobGod> ps aux | grep ?
[03:31] <Peyam> okej okej. I son't know then
[03:31] <Peyam> maybe exit
[03:32] <MobGod> Peyam thats not it heh
[03:32] <MobGod> Duel-Travis canm you assit with this one
[03:32] <Peyam> MobGod, then I dont kno
[03:32] <MobGod> wow a lot of typo's]
[03:32] <MobGod> sheesh
[03:33] <Duel-Travis> MobGod, What is the problemo?
[03:34] <MobGod> ftp
[03:35] <MobGod> but i think i got it now was trying to see how i can check to see if my ftp is accepting copnnections
[03:35] <MobGod> crap still no good
[03:35] <MobGod> ack
[03:35] <Duel-Travis> MobGod, ALl I use is FileZilla for transfering files over to my Ps3.
[03:35] <DCManning> Can someone please assist me with removing email addresses off of the Mozilla Thunderbird program?
[03:35] <MobGod> Duel-Travis ok
[03:36] <MobGod> i will get to it thanks
[03:36] <MobGod> bbl
[03:36] <DCManning> Is there ANYONE on here who can assist with questions?
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[03:38] <Crimson_Rogue> YAY! disabled extras from /etc/apt/sources.list and now I'm upgrading to 14.04. YAY
[03:38] <Crimson_Rogue> I'm so HAPPY
[03:39] <DCManning> Is there ANYONE who can bloody well help me with an issue on my UBUNTU computer????
[03:40] <DCManning> 1654 People on here and not a bloody one of you has a moment to assist me?
[03:40] <soy_el_pulpo> Anyone has not come today...
[03:40] <cprofitt> DCManning: at times it is not a question of time, but knowledge
[03:40] <cprofitt> let me scroll back and see what your issue is
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> soy_el_pulpo, Pardon?
[03:41] <Jeruvy> DCManning you can try Mozilla support.  You haven't really told us what your issue is and what it has to do with Ubuntu
[03:41] <DCManning> I asked earlier if someone can assist me in deleting an email address off of my Mozilla Thunderbird Email Program
[03:41] <cprofitt> DCManning: so you need to remove an email address from Thunderbird?
[03:41] <DCManning> Aye
[03:41] <soy_el_pulpo> from the autocomplete?
[03:41] <DCManning> I just want to remove an email address that is no longer valid
[03:42] <cprofitt> DCManning: to clarify from your list of accounts or from your address book?
[03:42] <DCManning> List of accounts
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> DCManning, tools-address book right click-delete
[03:43] <cprofitt> DCManning: here is a link to an askubuntu that should help
[03:43] <cprofitt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/249776/how-can-i-delete-a-mail-account-in-thunderbird
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> DCManning, This your email address?
[03:45] <cprofitt> DCManning: that answer should do the trick
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> !details | soy_el_pulpo
[03:45] <DCManning> Thanks, that fixed it
[03:45] <cprofitt> DCManning: awesome
[03:45] <rodger_nc> I am getting the following on my new install of the latest ubuntu:  You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “SONY_DVD_RECORDER_VOLUME”.
[03:45] <soy_el_pulpo> wilee-nilee: what are you talking about? I haven't ask anything
[03:45] <DCManning> I called the a support line and they were so helpful, they suggested I use this chat program to ask for help
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> soy_el_pulpo, That is the point.
[03:46] <soy_el_pulpo> wilee-nilee: ...?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> and yes you asked a question
[03:46] <soy_el_pulpo> wilee-nilee: to DCManning
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> soy_el_pulpo, Then use a nick.
[03:48] <soy_el_pulpo> wilee-nilee: if that makes you happy and less bitter, I will. ;)
[03:48] <rodger_nc> How do I access my DVDs?
[03:49] <RobbyF> insert into your DVD drive
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> rodger_nc, Not showing or not playing?
[03:49] <zykotick9> !dvd | rodger_nc
[03:49] <rawfodog> how do I VNC into my ubuntu machine with windows 7 ?
[03:49] <rodger_nc> Is ther a permission issue withe the /media folder
[03:49] <rodger_nc> I am getting the following on my new install of the latest ubuntu:  You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “SONY_DVD_RECORDER_VOLUME”.
[03:49] <rawfodog> Do I install a vnc server on my computer oris it already running ?
[03:49] <rodger_nc> this is not commerical DVD
[03:50] <Danato> huh guys is it normal to have a process being used by users "nobody" and "whoopsie"??
[03:51] <rodger_nc> I loaded libdvdread4  and ran the css script and rebooted and still get permission issues
[03:53] <babinlonston> how to add a service in run level
[03:54] <Danato> idk if i should be comfortable with nobody and whoopsie, but since its linux im gonna trust that its nothing harmful
[03:54] <trism> !info whoopsie | Danato
[03:55] <Danato> trism: what about nobody?
[03:55] <Danato> !info nobody
[03:56] <Danato> nobody     954   812  0 10:48 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foreground --no-hosts -
[03:57] <trism> Danato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobody_(username)
[03:57] <trism> Danato: dnsmasq drops privs for security reasons
[03:58] <rodger_nc> I am using ubuntu 13.10 and can not get ANY DVD to play even NON commercial - I get permission issues.  I loaded libdvdread4 and ran the css script and rebooted and still get permission issues.
[03:59] <Danato> trism: got it, thanks
[04:01] <Danato> rodger_nc: I dont even remember the last time I watched something from a DVD
[04:02] <rodger_nc> it is interesting that the media directory shows me as owner but will not allow me to change the permissions to list
[04:03] <rodger_nc> I have DVDs from work to view
[04:03] <rodger_nc> short videos
[04:03] <rodger_nc> made at work
[04:03] <rodger_nc> this is ridiculous
[04:04] <hooligan> 127.0.0.1:6668
[04:04] <KnownSyntax> At what point will Ubuntu complain really bad if you don't restart? (Ubuntu Server) since on login it says *system needs a restart* lol
[04:04] <Peyam> sorry guys. does anyone ofyou know what does the fox say?
[04:04] <Jordan_U> !ot | Peyam
[04:05] <Jordan_U> rodger_nc: What player are you trying to use and what is the exact error message? Did you mount the DVD manually?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> KnownSyntax, May be a security or kernel update, your choice really.
[04:06] <KnownSyntax> I'm assuming it's a kernel update more then likely, was just curious though. Thanks!
[04:19] <abaddon> Quick question, when I type users in my terminal I get a list of four users all named with my user name. What's with that?
[04:20] <FormerlySpoon> yodi yodi yoooo
[04:21] <Jordan_U> abaddon: Because you're logged in more than once.
[04:22] <abaddon> Jordan_U: But...why? I just rebooted my sys
[04:27] <trustnoone> http://askubuntu.com/questions/379667/installing-nvidia-770-on-ubuntu-13-10
[04:27] <trustnoone> halp pleaseeeeeeeee
[04:32] <fahadash> ls -dR is giving me just a '.' in ubuntu... I checked the man pages I am using correct switches
[04:36] <Duel-Travis> how do I change my registered username?
[04:37] <Duel-Travis> How can I change my username on here?
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, You can just add additional nicks to your account if you want.
[04:38] <Duel-Travis> wilee-nilee, what do you mean?
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> you registered?
[04:38] <Duel-Travis> wilee-nilee, and yes. I needed to to be able to join CM
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, CM?
[04:39] <Duel-Travis> wilee-nilee, a Channel that required regist.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, A closed channel?
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, Are you registered with freenode?
[04:40] <Duel-Travis> wilee-nilee, Not sure.
[04:40] <Duel-Travis> wilee-nilee, I think so
[04:41] <rypervenche> fahadash: That's normal. What do you want ls to do?
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, You would know if you were, or at least you should, go to ##freenode and ask if you are
[04:42] <zykotick9> fahadash: what are you hoping/trying to get for output?
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> !register | Negative
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> Negative, register and after awhile get a cloak and be cool like us. ;)
[04:45] <Negative> wilee-nilee, what u mean,.
[04:46] <zykotick9> !cloak | Negative
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> Negative, Right click my nick, no IP
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> I be cloaked
[04:47] <Negative> okay?
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> its not that important some of us like that, and the be cool is a joke get it..................
[04:48] <Negative> how do I log out of this account?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> Heh, its like talking to a brick wall.
[04:51] <fahadash> rypervenche, zykotick9... Thanks... I was trying to print all directory names in current hierarchy.. I got it
[04:52] <macdabby> is it possible that a python script run by upstart might not be able to make a network connection because of permissions?
[04:57] <rootyayo> hola
[04:57] <Danato> hey rootyayo
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> !root | rootyayo
[04:58] <Avidya> Hola
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> hehe meant root on the irc
[04:58] <Paulus68_1> !es|Avidya
[04:59] <rootyayo> ok
[05:01] <yeyeman> what can make pdf on ubuntu?
[05:01] <krutoileshii> open office
[05:01] <krutoileshii> can save as a PDF
[05:02] <yeyeman> libre office?
[05:03] <krutoileshii> anyone know how to find out which DKMS module generating an error  "dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0."
[05:03] <yeyeman> libre office does not seem to be able to save pdf files
[05:03] <krutoileshii> libre office should be able to convert to PDF
[05:03] <krutoileshii> i've been doing it before no problem
[05:04] <krutoileshii> you can also probably just print to PDF form it
[05:04] <ObrienDave> yeyeman, there is a LibreOffice multi-save extension that does save PDF files
[05:05] <krutoileshii> anyone know how to find out which DKMS module generating an error  "dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0."
[05:06] <Paulus68_1> !patience|krutoileshii
[05:07] <krutoileshii> just a bit more background. the only two modules i know that are DKMS for sure are ctn91xx and nvidia
[05:15] <MKCoin> need some quick help: I have a program running on another tty, can I sort of 'shunt' it to this one?
[05:23] <zykotick9> MKCoin: by TTY do you really mean console (a TTY is any terminal, console or xorg)?  what do you mean by shunt?  switch?  if you want to do that sort of thing, i'd strongly suggest you start using tmux or gnu/screen.
[05:24] <MKCoin> compiz crashed so I did the ctrl-alt-f1 thing to switch to tty1 and ran compiz again, was wondering how I could make compiz keep running when I log out of that terminal. I ended up just running compiz --replace over here to get around it.
[05:25] <MKCoin> so you know what I mean, zykotick9?
[05:26] <zykotick9> MKCoin: not really...  BUT if you want things to "keep running" that gets another tmux/screen suggestion ;)
[05:27] <MKCoin> alright, I'll check that out, thanks.
[05:29] <Vivekananda> hey everyone so I used nautilus to ftp and can look at the folder in there. Now what I want to do is to cd in the to folder using cli and do a git clone. on trying cd /media/ftpfolder it says permission denied
[05:29] <Vivekananda> what do I do ?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> Vivekananda: cd ~/.gvfs/; ls
[05:30] <Vivekananda> do I run that command ?
[05:30] <megadeath> what image viewer do you recomend?
[05:30] <zykotick9> !info nautilus-open-terminal | Vivekananda this may also be of interest
[05:31] <Vivekananda> Jordan_U: what do I do with your command ?
[05:33] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: open a terminal and try it.  the ; separates two commands, run "cd ~/.gvfs" then run "ls"
[05:33] <Vivekananda> on running ls I get
[05:39] <Vivekananda> zykotick9: I tried to do git clone to the folder but I saw --- fatal: failed to copy file to '.git/objects/00/2ee9104516d434ad985906eb04cdc17dc5e01a': Operation not supported  and then everything disappeared
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> megadeath: dont you like the default one?
[05:40] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: when you ran ls did it show the contents of the ftp directory you where expecting?
[05:41] <Vivekananda> yep I did ls and it showed --  ls FTP as ftpsafeview on 184.168.234.1  cd FTP\ as\ ftpsafeview\ on\ 184.168.234.1/
[05:42] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: i have no suggestion, sorry.  2 comments though - A) FUSE / gvfs might be a bit lacking in some areas and B) FTP MUST DIE!
[05:43] <Vivekananda> so tell me how to clone a git repo on a remote location accessible by ftp
[05:43] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: i can't... hopefully someone else is more knowledable in this area.  best of luck.
[05:46] <unrecovered> somebody say something
[05:48] <ObrienDave> something
[05:48] <unrecovered> thanks
[05:50] <frybye> Hi I just followed instructions in ubuntuhandbook.org to install kernel 3.12 on my ubuntu 13.10 installation... it does not boot correctly and I have had to select boot to kernel 3.8 in grub to get this running..
[05:51] <frybye> now the problem ist that command sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.12.0-* linux-headers-3.12.0-*
[05:51] <frybye> is not working - to let me get rind of 3.12 - any ideas? Is it because I am running 3.8 right now to get access?
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> frybye, uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image  will give you the parts of the kernel so you can remove them, you could install ubuntu tweak and use its janitor to do i easily.
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> it*
[05:55] <pinPoint> any luck on getting apache 2.4.6 on ubuntu 12.04.3 lts yet?
[05:55] <frybye> wilee-nilee: thanks pal -
[05:57] <frybye> wilee-nilee: is that the  unity tweak tool   ??
[05:58] <frybye> ok - have found stuff on wiki...
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> frybye, ubuntu tweak its in a ppa.
[06:00] <frybye> wilee-nilee: yeah - thanks I see now...
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> cool
[06:02] <chris_r_bnc> in linux, is there a way to reconfigure the retransmission interval of the initial TCP SYN packet (before connect())?
[06:07] <CiSense> hi, I have 13.04 and XP installed and want to add 13.10. When I start the 13.10 install from USB and select "something else" (to keep XP and 13.04) should I use /dev/sda for the “Device for boot loader installation”? Gparted says the boot partition is /dev/sda1 and 13.04 root is in /dev/sda12
[06:11] <zykotick9> CiSense: yes, you want Grub (the boot loader) installed on the MBR - so sda
[06:11] <CiSense> zykotick9, thanks, AFAIK grub2 is already installed there
[06:12] <zykotick9> CiSense: this is gonna overright that previous grub
[06:12] <CiSense> zykotick9, now you are scaring me :)
[06:12] <zykotick9> CiSense: it "should" be ok
[06:13] <CiSense> zykotick9, okay
[06:14] <CiSense> what can I do to recover my 13.04 if it isn't?
[06:14] <zykotick9> CiSense: in a situation where you have more then 1 gnu/linux installed, it's whatever grub you installed last that is in charge.  after install if anything is missing from your menu, boot into your new ubuntu and run "sudo update-grub" and it should add everything it sees (if this doesn't happen by default)
[06:14] <CiSense> i'm not so worried about XP
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> its eol in less than six months
[06:17]  * wilee-nilee looks for the champagne
[06:18] <ObrienDave> I asked the local hospital last week when all of their XP patient stations on wheels become EOL in April
[06:19] <ObrienDave> "who knows" was the response. made me feel really safe there LOL
[06:21] <wilee-nilee> code 3 we have a virus on cart 10
[06:21] <ObrienDave> just about right LOL
[06:22] <ObrienDave> "sorry, we thought YOU had a virus" ;))
[06:23] <Doops> hello?
[06:23] <Ben64> hi Doops
[06:24] <Doops> Sorry if this is kind of a dumb question, but I'm looking for help with a recent issue I've come accross with Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm not sure how to fix it, or if i'm able to
[06:24] <Doops> am i in the right room for that?
[06:25] <kostkon> y
[06:25] <ObrienDave> state your question
[06:25] <reisio> Doops: pppprobably
[06:26] <Doops> well today when I booted up my laptop, ide been unable to load the OS.  it keeps going through error checking and stating that it found errors.
[06:27] <Doops> sorry im kinda running back and forth between rooms gve me a sec and i can get you the actual message
[06:27] <ObrienDave> we're patient that way ;)
[06:27] <Doops> hah ^_^;
[06:27] <Doops> sorry, its still on a black screen :/
[06:27] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: I'm looking at purchasing an XP or atleast Vista era computer. Do you think the XP era ones would be able to boot from usb to install ubuntu?
[06:28] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: why xp era? How much?
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> isn't xp like aroiund 17 years old
[06:28] <ObrienDave> BuntuFuntu, you would need to check the BIOS to see if it would work that way
[06:28] <Doops> ok, its checking the disk drive for errors now. (=b^_^)=b
[06:29] <frybye> Hi wilee-nilee thanks for your help - in the end I was able to stick with the 3.12 kernel - just had to get a nividia 331 driver installed.. but thanks anyhows.. the ubuntu tweak thingy is cool either way..
[06:29] <BuntuFuntu> Wilee-nilee: No XP was released around 2002. it's only 11 years but still a little old.
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> frybye, cool, enjoy
[06:29] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: why xp era? How much?
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> ah 2002 those were the daze
[06:30] <Warpl> Good day
[06:30] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: Because It's cheap and only 80$ from this Facebook Yard sale thing in my  town. I'm going to pick it up tomorrow(:
[06:30] <Warpl> I have a strange problem with squidGuard. Can somebody help me, please? )
[06:31] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: mmm, you know a _brand new_ computer will be like only double that
[06:31] <Doops> OOp! error came up! "Errors were found while checking the disk for drive /"
[06:31] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: but will be well over four times as powerful
[06:31] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: Yes but why would I want to support a company that uses DRM like Microsoft?
[06:31] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: you think buying 2nd hand doesn't do that?
[06:31] <Warpl> WHen I try to launch squidGuard, it gives me a syntax error in config file, in line "dbhome /var/lib/squidguard/db"
[06:31] <BuntuFuntu> The money doesn't go to Microsof though like if I bought it brand new.
[06:31] <Doops> any ideas?   o_O
[06:32] <reisio> you can actually buy new computers without Windows, if you really want to
[06:32] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: sure it does
[06:32] <Warpl> But when I use the default config with the same line - all goes ok
[06:32] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: How? o.o
[06:32] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: it goes to the human you buy it from, who uses that money to offset their having paid Microsfot
[06:32] <Warpl> I've copied this line from default config into my config, but no result. What can it be?
[06:33] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: Ah. But anyways, it's an XP era computer, but it doesn't have XP anymore. It's running some small linux distro. I think it's either Tiny or Puppy.
[06:33] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: doesn't matter
[06:33] <Doops> does anybody know any issues regarding an error i've been recieving after booting up my computer?  "Errors were found while checking the disk for drive /?
[06:34] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: you know the processor/ram specs?
[06:34] <ObrienDave> Warpl, go with the default config. change ONE thing at a time until you get the same error. that way you know what triggered it
[06:34]  * Paulus68_1 still working with good old XP at work *sigh*
[06:35] <Warpl> ObrienDave, but in my config I've already wrote all the rules, and squidGuard gives error only in first string
[06:35] <BuntuFuntu> I think he said it has 1 gig of ram but I'm unsure of the processor. I'd have to ask.
[06:37] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: $80 for a 9-year-old computer is ridiculous :)
[06:37] <reisio> tell him you'll take it off his hands for him
[06:37] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: That's what I thought. People around here expect too much. o.O
[06:38] <reisio> everybody wants their junk to be worth what it was new
[06:38] <reisio> it isn't
[06:38] <reisio> a new computer for like $200 will come with 4GB of RAM easily
[06:38] <reisio> and a >2GHz multi core processor
[06:38] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: Right?
[06:39] <reisio> and maybe even dedicated graphics
[06:39] <reisio> $80 is practically half the cost of that, and you won't come near to half the capability, plus it'll draw more power and be worn out
[06:39] <reisio> just sayin' :p
[06:39] <BuntuFuntu> IBM Thinkpad T30 is what it is.
[06:39] <linu1> hi i have using pn533 rfid reader to read a rfid card i have been using linuxnfc neard,can you tell me how to read a card in linuxnfc
[06:39] <BuntuFuntu> Dinosaur to me o.O
[06:39] <reisio> those are nice laptops, but they aren't worth half the cost of a new computer a decade later
[06:40] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: Def not. But Linux I'm sure could give it some life back(:
[06:40] <reisio> that isn't the question :p
[06:42] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: The laptop I'm on right now is only 2 years old but I'm already having to replace a part XD
[06:42] <ObrienDave> Offer him $40.not worth much more than that
[06:42] <reisio> $40 is charitable
[06:43] <BuntuFuntu> 0briendave: Will do that.
[06:43] <reisio> what's he going to do with $40, buy some KFC?
[06:43] <reisio> whereas if you save $40 times four, you can get a massively superior _new_ computer
[06:49] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: And the thinkpad has only a 40gb Hard Drive compared to my Lenovo's 250GB XD
[06:49] <reisio> waste of cash
[06:50] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: I plan on using it as a test machine. Def not a daily user.
[06:50]  * reisio shrugs
[06:50] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: Still might be a waste of cash, but It'll atleast get some use.
[06:51] <ObrienDave> agrees ^^
[06:52] <ObrienDave> your money
[06:52] <BuntuFuntu> obriendave; Maybe I could try talking him down even lower then 40 XD
[06:52] <frybye> Hi - if I have had ubuntu-proposed sources active for a while - and then de-select the proposed sources - can this cause problems?
[06:53] <BuntuFuntu> and I just remembered. I should probably run an update on my 'Buntu :3
[06:54] <frybye> BuntuFuntu: you refering to your kernel version - I just installed 3.12 but with a nividia gt240 grafic card - had to go and get the 311 driver installed to work with kernel 3.12
[06:54] <frybye> e e e nvidia 331 - not 311 - sorry...
[06:55] <BuntuFuntu> Frybye: No. Just a regular Ubuntu software update. I don't mess with the kernel ;o
[06:56] <frybye> BuntuFuntu: ok - eh would it not be better to have the updates auto-advised or similar..?
[06:57] <frybye> anybody got a tip about wether de-selecting the ubuntu-proposed sources can cause a problem??
[06:58] <BuntuFuntu> Apparently no updates available o.O
[06:58] <frybye> which ubuntu are you on BuntuFuntu ??
[06:58] <BuntuFuntu> frybye: 12.04 LTS
[06:58] <BuntuFuntu> I like the long term releases. :P
[06:59] <frybye> well since it was released there will for sure have been some updates I guess..?
[07:00] <BuntuFuntu> Frybye; Yes. Ever since I've installed it I've always updated stuff through Update Manager. lol
[07:00] <helmut_> hi
[07:03] <frybye> BuntuFuntu: ok fine - just didn't sound like that at first...
[07:04] <frybye> Hi helmut_ was los?
[07:04] <BuntuFuntu> frybye: Yeah I see that now lol.. Sorry
[07:05] <frybye> helmut_: nicht das ich äerger will - hier gilt english normalerweise.. ;=)
[07:11]  * BuntuFuntu wishes Skyrim could run on Ubuntu
[07:12] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: does
[07:13] <BuntuFuntu> reisio: How do I get to? ;o
[07:13] <pinPoint> does anyone know if I say installed a program from a ppa, will ubuntu later try to overwrite it if a newer version comes out from official chans?
[07:13] <reisio> you can run it via Wine; it might also be available via Steam, I don't follow that
[07:14] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: An askubuntu search says it should be runnable with the Steam 4 Linux client +Wine+PlayonLinux
[07:14] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: or without steam: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22skyrim%22%20site%3Aappdb.winehq.org
[07:14] <BuntuFuntu> Reisio: But I bought it off steam :o
[07:14] <reisio> I don't really follow steam, but if it's on steam I doubt it needs wine
[07:14]  * reisio shrugs
[07:16] <BuntuFuntu> Might not, I'm just reading what askubuntu says :p
[07:16] <pinPoint> reisio: what do you think? :)
[07:16] <reisio> pinPoint: 'bout what?
[07:17] <pinPoint> running something from ppa... if ubuntu releases a newer version down the road, would it offer me to over write it?
[07:17] <XMLnewbi> how do i get this github key copyied, its one line and huge and nano has no select all. is there a command to open it in gedit or something?
[07:18] <reisio> XMLnewbi: how'd you open it in nano?
[07:18] <hispeed67> have they had any luck getting wnda3100v2 working on linux yet?
[07:18] <hispeed67> or the wnda4100?
[07:18] <XMLnewbi> nano git_rsa.pub
[07:18] <XMLnewbi> ...
[07:19] <Ben64> gedit git_rsa.pub
[07:19] <erikrulez> hi
[07:19] <erikrulez> i need some help
[07:19] <XMLnewbi> gedit git_rsa.pub didnt work lol
[07:19] <erikrulez> how do i change directory ?
[07:19] <XMLnewbi> cd
[07:19] <Ben64> !work | XMLnewbi
[07:19] <reisio> erikrulez: cd dir/ectory
[07:19] <XMLnewbi> gedit git_rsa.pub didnt open the file in gedit*
[07:20] <erikrulez> I dont know how because...
[07:20] <erikrulez> i dont know WHAT IS THE MAIN DIRECTORY
[07:20] <XMLnewbi> cd and ls
[07:20] <XMLnewbi> bread a butter
[07:20] <hispeed67> erikrulez: cd, ls and pwd are your friends
[07:20] <Ben64> XMLnewbi: so nothing happens when you try?
[07:20] <erikrulez> ok gotcha:)
[07:21] <Ben64> erikrulez: explain what you actually want to do
[07:21] <erikrulez> its ok, i just figured it:)
[07:21] <XMLnewbi> nano opens, but its one line, and id be copy/pasting like 20 times
[07:21] <XMLnewbi> also, I did show hidden files, but .ssh didnt show in the home folder?
[07:21] <reisio> erikrulez: 'cd' goes back to your "main" directory
[07:21] <reisio> erikrulez: which tends to be /home/yourUser/ AKA ~/
[07:22] <reisio> XMLnewbi: doesn't necessarily exist by default
[07:23] <seomarik> ивет
[07:23] <seomarik> всем привет
[07:23] <Ben64> !ru | seomarik
[07:23] <erikrulez> how do i move a file from desktop to ''/var/www/'' ?
[07:23] <XMLnewbi> oh, its now showing and hidden files
[07:23] <XMLnewbi> any*
[07:24] <seomarik> язык у меня русский?
[07:24] <Ben64> erikrulez: mv /path/to/file /var/www/
[07:24] <erikrulez> aha thanks
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> !russian | seomarik
[07:26] <seomarik>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[07:27] <seomarik> всем привет кто есть на канале с Русским языком?
[07:28] <AdityaRaj> hey guys i need help setting up fingerprint reader on my dell vostro laptop.. can anyone help me please ?
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> нет пространство, только 'j #ubuntu'
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> * /j #ubuntu-ru
[07:29] <hispeed67> anybody familiar with linux usb wireless??
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> моя ошибка
[07:32] <erikrulez> hi, i want to transfer ''ezpublish5_community_-2013.1-gpl-full.tar.gz'' from Desktop to var/www
[07:32] <erikrulez> somehow i fail to do it
[07:34] <erikrulez> I write
[07:34] <erikrulez>  mv /home/maui/desktop/ezpublish5_community_-2013.1-gpl-full.tar.gz /home/maui/var/www
[07:36] <erikrulez> what do i do wrong?
[07:38] <mapps> whats it say erikj
[07:38] <mapps> erikrulez even
[07:38] <mapps> move file a -> file b
[07:38] <mapps> mv /x/y/a /yz/b
[07:39] <erikrulez> it says no stat, no such file or directory
[07:40] <erikrulez> maybe its Desktop and not desktop
[07:40] <erikrulez> but i tried, and got the same
[07:41] <mapps> ok
[07:41] <mapps> go to a terminal
[07:41] <mapps> and find the file
[07:41] <mapps> must be wrong dir is all
[07:41] <erikrulez> cd /home/maui/Desktop?
[07:42] <mapps> cd /home/maui
[07:42] <mapps> and ls
[07:42] <mapps> see if its Desktop or what
[07:42] <mapps> i dont know where you put the file:D
[07:42] <erikrulez> its Desktop
[07:42] <erikrulez> and i tried
[07:42] <mapps> its /home/mark/Desktop for me
[07:42] <mapps> yea
[07:42] <mapps> so try it agaoin
[07:42] <mapps>  mv /home/maui/Desktop/ezpublish5_community_-2013.1-gpl-full.tar.gz /home/maui/var/www
[07:44] <erikrulez> i dont have a www in my var
[07:44] <erikrulez> im trying to follow the instructions here: http://share.ez.no/blogs/thiago-campos-viana/tip-installing-ez-publish-5-on-ubuntu
[07:45] <erikrulez> should i create the 'www'?
[07:45] <mapps> yes
[07:45] <erikrulez> ok, how?
[07:45] <mapps> where do you need it to be?
[07:45] <erikrulez> in /var
[07:45] <mapps> and mkdir = makedir command
[07:45] <erikrulez> makedir /var/www ?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> erikrulez: If you don't have /var/www/ then you probably haven't installed apache yet.
[07:46] <erikrulez> aha
[07:46] <erikrulez> i thought it should be something already there
[07:46] <Jordan_U> erikrulez: Install Apache and MySQL.
[07:46] <erikrulez> ok im googling that 'install apache and mysql ubuntu'
[07:53] <smartracer> when i install ubuntu alongside windows on a seperate partiotion without using wubi, can i access the file folders in the partition where ubuntu installed?
[07:54] <erikrulez> my server ip is not showing in browser, so I did not isntall apache correctly:(
[07:55] <nopolitica> smartracer: it depends on filesystem you use in ubuntu, there's ext2 support for windows
[07:55] <smartracer> realy? can i use ext2 then i can access that partition too?
[07:56] <nopolitica> smartracer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/
[07:57] <NuSuey> ah hell, the proprietary gpu drivers giving me a headache.. If I use them - I cant do screenshots or record a screen.. all I get recorded is a black screen with cursor :o any ideas how to solve this? (i'm not using compiz  btw)
[07:58] <Jordan_U> smartracer: Ext3 and Ext4 are also supported.
[07:58] <erikrulez> how do i find out my apache address?
[07:58] <nopolitica> NuSuey: Maybe you should automate loading of Xorg according your needs, maybe something like switching between
[07:58] <mapps> ah erikrulez i assumed you had apache installed
[07:58] <mapps> erikrulez,  your apache will be your local IP http://localhost also
[07:58] <NuSuey> nopolitica: well I wouldn't know what to do ..and what do you mean by that :o
[07:59] <Jordan_U> erikrulez: If you're going to be running a server connected to the internet then, to be perfectly honest, you should learn the basics of networking and security first.
[07:59] <nopolitica> NuSuey: something like this
[08:00] <nopolitica> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=960521
[08:00] <nopolitica> NuSuey: and you can create 2 configurations with needed drivers and/or kernel modules loading
[08:01] <Guest32960> Can anyone help me?
[08:01] <NuSuey> nopolitica: but how would that help me? (still no clue what to do)
[08:01] <erikrulez> localhost works, but still the browser doesnt show a numbered address
[08:01] <erikrulez> im not going to publish a site from this laptop
[08:01] <erikrulez> i just want to be able to practize ezpublish
[08:02] <erikrulez> im learning only the client-based side of web programming (html/css/javascript), I dont want to learn php stuff
[08:02] <erikrulez> i just realize the www is still not created after I installed apache and mysql
[08:02] <Jordan_U> erikrulez: How did you install Apache?
[08:03] <nopolitica> NuSuey: well, I suppose you can use proprietary drivers in case you need some operations, you can't have with generic (or some other driver)...
[08:03] <erikrulez> from command prompt
[08:03] <Jordan_U> erikrulez: What command did you run specifically?
[08:03] <charlin> hi
[08:03] <erikrulez> the instructions in https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/initial-server-setup-with-ubuntu-12-04
[08:03] <charlin> i wanna to learn C++
[08:03] <erikrulez> but i did it while on var line in the cp
[08:03] <erikrulez> dont know if that affects the installation
[08:03] <Andrewtler> hi everyone
[08:03] <erikrulez> i was in the var directory
[08:04] <Andrewtler> what are some cool apps in ubuntu?
[08:04] <NuSuey> nopolitica: I guess I cant understand you .. well.. what should I do ? :o im using the flgrx gpu driver (amd) which records the screen  - but everything is black.
[08:05] <Guest32960> ubuntu wont boot anymore, it just sends me to the grub terminal. Anyone know i can do
[08:05] <Jordan_U> erikrulez: That tuturial is completely innapropriate unless you're using a DigitalOcean hosted server, and has nothing to do with installing Apache.
[08:05] <erikrulez> oh no :/
[08:05] <Jordan_U> Guest32960: Did you recently run grub-install or make any other changes that might have caused this?
[08:06] <Andrewtler> could an update have caused this? ^
[08:06] <nopolitica> NuSuey: my mistake, i thought u were talking about having some issues with screenshots or performance issues
[08:06] <erikrulez> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -? this better?
[08:06] <Guest32960> well I am duealbooting ubuntu with wondws 8 and I recently just updated to 8.1. Could that have anything to do with that
[08:07] <nopolitica> NuSuey: just check wether kernel modules are loaded and google for your video card with keywords setting up proprietary drivers ubuntu
[08:07] <Guest32960> I also updated from 13.04 to 13.10
[08:07] <Andrewtler> hey i have a question
[08:07] <shagelito> just shoot
[08:07] <Andrewtler> once you press alt+F7 how do you get back to desktop after that?
[08:08] <NuSuey> nopolitica: that's too general suggestion for me.. dude, no clue about what where what kernel modules :o
[08:08] <Jordan_U> erikrulez: Yes, but read the instructions carefully to make sure that you're installing what you want.
[08:08] <NuSuey> or a better question.. is there a way how to get the latest MESA drivers to 12.04 ?
[08:08] <smartracer> thanks nopolitica and jordan_U
[08:09] <Jordan_U> smartracer: You're welcome.
[08:09] <Andrewtler> oops i meant alt+ctrl+F7
[08:09] <Guest32960> I have 2 ubuntu options in my bios menu for the boot order. Could this be due to the update from 13.04 to 13.10?
[08:10] <thorium> hi?
[08:10] <Andrewtler> exit()
[08:12] <shagelito> greetings #ubuntu. still have some grub problems, i can boot w8 but no more debian -_-. My distro seems to have been installed in legacy. My boot sector in efi. I know that could be the problem. But before i messed up with my grubs parameters, it worked well. any guess ?
[08:19] <TomyWork> hi
[08:19] <TomyWork> why does mountall depend on plymouth?
[08:21] <TomyWork> i'm using ubuntu server 12.04 LTS on a VM whose console i look at once in a blue moon
[08:24] <starnix> Good afternoon people :]
[08:24] <NuSuey> starnix: or morning :)
[08:26] <tclxa> b2g
[08:27] <shagelito> whats the common delay i should wait befrore reasking a question withou being noticed as spammer ?
[08:29] <shagelito> i see..
[08:29] <NuSuey> anybody with a few minutes to spare? I want to understand what is the deal with the open source drivers.. is it just simple that if I can get the latest mesa (think 9.2) via some source, then it's just done, or is it something far far more harder to understand?:) searching for some info so I can understand it
[08:30] <NuSuey> radeon is the driver, and mesa - the libraries for it? or..o.O
[08:34] <WillRock> hello, need some help with the server. I installed, I think it was ubuntu 8.04 back in 2009 and still continue to use it from my slice on rackspace. They migrated and now it's on the cloud and I can't find the slice but that's another story. My server still functions and here is the issue I need help with:
[08:34] <WillRock> I logged in using winscp and added a website but don't know what file to edit to make it work
[08:35] <WillRock> I mean, I'm drawing a blank and do not know what key words to enter in google to search
[08:35] <WillRock> I have multiple websites on there, so I have some experience but am completely out of touch
[08:35] <WillRock> If anyone is up, please help
[08:35] <somsip> WillRock: possibly something in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ but it's a wild guess assuming you're running Apache and 8.04 filestructure is the same is current versions
[08:35] <WillRock> got it, checking
[08:37] <WillRock> woah, got it! I was searching in the etc folder but couldn't place it.
[08:37] <WillRock> Thank you so much!
[08:37] <somsip> WillRock: np
[08:37] <WillRock> somsip! You are a lifesaver. Would have taken me ages to search and find it.
[08:38] <NuSuey> well.. that was "helpful" :o
[08:41] <shagelito> NuSuey: can you reproduce your magic toward my headbreaking problem ? :)
[08:42] <NuSuey> shagelito: I couldn't understand your problem :o
[08:43] <shagelito> NuSuey: Well at least you tryed to :D
[08:44] <shagelito> NuSuey: (what cant you understand ?)
[08:44] <NuSuey> shagelito: sry..brb 5 min.. well try to explain it more understand-able :)
[08:45] <auronandace> shagelito: you can't boot debian? this channel is for ubuntu, not debian
[08:45] <sandman13> has anyone used xfce4 DE for ubuntu? please help me with it
[08:45] <Fudus> #xubuntu
[08:46] <auronandace> sandman13: plenty have, there is an official derivative
[08:46] <auronandace> !xubuntu | sandman13
[08:46] <auronandace> sandman13: you can ask the question in either room
[08:47] <shagelito> auronandace: well, the problem is booting a common distro. During my searches, debian was not the only distro concerned by this problem. The problem is more me than my OS.
[08:47] <sandman13> make me clear auronandace does installing xfce would make ubuntu xubuntu?
[08:48] <auronandace> shagelito: the process is different depending on the distro
[08:48] <Hanumaan> my bash history is not getting saved ... I kept HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE but still does not work I am pasting my bashrc here.http://paste.ubuntu.com/6447113/
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !info xubuntu-desktop | sandman13
[08:48] <shagelito> auronandace: well my mistake then !
[08:48] <auronandace> sandman13: installing xubuntu-desktop will give you xubuntu (which you can select from the login screen)
[08:50] <sandman13> okay
[08:50] <auronandace> sandman13: it would add xubuntu to ubuntu (not replace it) and you can login to either at the login screen
[08:50] <sandman13> auronandace so i can choose between two at startup?
[08:50] <auronandace> sandman13: at the login screen (lightdm)
[08:51] <Fudus> A little icon appears by your username, click it and you can pick between  the different desktops
[08:51] <sandman13> auronandace sweet
[08:51] <sandman13> auronandace what is nautilus
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: you can do this with a lot of window managers, like e17, xubuntu, lubuntu,and many others
[08:52] <auronandace> sandman13: the file manager
[08:52] <auronandace> sandman13: xfce uses thunar as the default file manager
[08:53] <sandman13> is nautilus preinstalled in ubuntu
[08:53] <Fudus> It is Files
[08:53] <auronandace> sandman13: yes, it is default for ubuntu
[08:53] <Fudus> The Cabinet icon on the default Unity Launcher
[08:54]  * lotuspsychje loved the shell icon more :p
[08:54] <sandman13> is that Nautilus Fudus?
[08:54] <Fudus> Yes.
[08:55] <sandman13> okay
[08:55] <Fudus> Like Evince is Document Viewer and gedit is Text Editor, Gnome likes using generic names
[08:57] <sandman13> watching this Fudus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELSyxxZMHH4
[08:57] <sandman13> he says xfce is more customisable
[08:58] <Fudus> Never tried it, I like Unity
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: it all depends on what you wanna do exactly
[08:59] <sandman13> lotuspsychje : meaning? when do i use unity and when i use xfce?
[08:59] <auronandace> sandman13: what do you mean when? use whatever you like
[08:59] <johngilch> Hey everyone
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: you can always custom stuff on any window manager, so it all depends what your needs are
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: xubuntu is just lighter to work with
[09:00] <sandman13> meaning uses low resources right? lotuspsychje
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> sandman13: lubuntu and xubuntu are light yes
[09:00] <johngilch> I have an interesting question for anyone who wants to take a stab at it: Say I have 2 hard drives; One with Ubuntu on it, and one that is blank that I want to install Windows on.
[09:01] <NuSuey> so.. I have working outputs on the main AMD GPU (DVI + DVI) and ubuntu sees 2 screens, but .. the I have a TV plugged in the HDMI output of the secondary (internal GPU) Intel GPU .. that ubuntu doesn't see.. BUT.. I see the console commands on the screen (the loading verbose text) .. :o am I missing something? does the Intel need something to use the HDMI
[09:01] <NuSuey> screen as a proper screen? ..currently at 12.04 ..
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> johngilch: i would reccomend not to install windows and use ubuntu on all your drives :p
[09:01] <johngilch> Before you say it, I already know how to dual boot and reinstall Grub and all that good stuff. I want to go further than that. Is there anyway, say using virtualbox with raw disk access, that I could physically install Windows to that second hard drive and be able to boot from it using Grub?
[09:02] <NuSuey> lotuspsychje: +1
[09:02] <sandman13> lotuspsychje: +1
[09:02] <soman> apt-get distupgrade the same as upgrade plus dependencies handling? Does it mean that better to use dist-upgread instead of upgrade?
[09:02] <auronandace> johngilch: better a question for #vbox
[09:03] <vusie> johngilch pm me
[09:03] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | soman
[09:04] <auronandace> soman: upgrade does handle dependencies (just not new dependencies)
[09:04] <Raymii_> When I want to remove a folder which has too many subfolders (every folder has one subfolder) I get "Cannot allocate memory" from rm. How do I fix this and remove the folder? FS is ext3
[09:05] <Raymii_> this is the error: http://0paste.com/657
[09:05] <soman> auronandace: but what about new ubuntu releases? upgrade id uses also to upgrade from release to release? I just want to upgrade installed packages not release
[09:05] <hamiTR61> selamalikim
[09:06] <hamiTR61> selam verdik leyn :D
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> !arabic | hamiTR61
[09:06] <geirha> Raymii_: Oh my, I can see why rm may have issues with that.
[09:06] <auronandace> soman: you are confusing apt-get upgrade with an actual upgrade to a new release
[09:07] <Raymii_> geirha Yeah I know. Friend of me tried to be funny.
[09:07] <hamiTR61> nabaysınız habırda
[09:07] <hamiTR61> arabic diil TURKISH
[09:07] <hamiTR61> :D
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !tr | hamiTR61
[09:07] <hamiTR61> tknhs
[09:08] <somsip> Raymii_: rm them in stages? rm -f /folder/{a..m}* (possibly)
[09:08] <auronandace> soman: do-release-upgrade takes you to a new release
[09:08] <geirha> Raymii_: find a/ -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} \;   # might hit the same problem though
[09:08] <Raymii_> somsip Won't work. Tried :(
[09:08] <Raymii_> geirha Also won't work, tried it.
[09:08] <geirha> Raymii_: same error?
[09:08] <Raymii_> geirha yes
[09:09] <Raymii_> I'm now trying to mount --bind a /tmp/a1 and see if that helps me further, but it doesn;t seem to do so.
[09:09] <geirha> Raymii_: do you know how many levels there are?
[09:09] <Raymii_> See the 0paste link: http://0paste.com/657
[09:09] <geirha> ok, so that's the leaf at the end there
[09:10] <Raymii_> geirha 71398 subfolders
[09:12] <Marion_> I hoping someone is available to offer some advice on figuring out the problem with my vbox/vagrant/ubuntu vm.  My vm will not complete provisioning.  It crashes on sudo apt-get update.
[09:12] <ring3> hi
[09:13] <gordonjcp> in 13.04, 13.10 and 14.04 I'm getting scrambled text in X
[09:13] <Rory> gordonjcp: What graphics card?
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: ati grafix card?
[09:13] <gordonjcp> Intel
[09:13] <gordonjcp> and if you give me a minute, I'll get the model...
[09:13] <Rory> gordonjcp: lspci | grep VGA
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: only text or images also?
[09:14] <soman> auronandace: thanks for explanation
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: might be interesting to tinypic the disformed txt
[09:14] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: only text, occasional glyphs
[09:14] <Fudus> Firefox has random corrupted text, Chrome doesn't
[09:14] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: I will next time it shows up
[09:14] <soman> another one Q: is gcc planned to be updated in ubuntu repos? it's steel 4.6.3 as when it be installed by default?
[09:15] <gordonjcp> I know Intel isn't well-supported, but this is a regression ;-)
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> !info gcc
[09:15] <soman> still*
[09:15] <Rory> !info gcc
[09:15] <auronandace> soman: no
[09:15] <geirha> Raymii_: Hm. I wonder if you'll be able to cd to the bottom, then rmdir your way back up.  PS1='\$ '; declare +x PWD; cd a && while cd ./*/; :; done
[09:16] <Rory> soman: Generally newer versions aren't just automatically backported
[09:16] <gordonjcp> aha
[09:16] <gordonjcp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pangox-compat/+bug/1227569
[09:17] <Raymii_> geirha -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
[09:17] <geirha> Raymii_: err, sorry, forgot "do". while cd ./*/; do :; done
[09:17] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: it's exactly like the corruption in the video on that bug ;-)
[09:18] <soman> auronandace: that is for stability or there are some other reasons?
[09:18] <Raymii_> geirha Lets see if it works.
[09:18] <auronandace> soman: mostly for stability yes
[09:18] <auronandace> !latest | soman
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: ever tryed lubuntu or xubuntu for same issue?
[09:19] <soman> !backports
[09:19] <auronandace> soman: there are a few exceptions to the rule though (eg firefox)
[09:19] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: not yet
[09:19] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: I might next week when I can download the iso
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: how about disabling background blur in compiz
[09:20] <geirha> Raymii_: if you get to the bottom:  while cd .. && rmdir ./*/; do :; done
[09:21] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: I'll try that
[09:21] <Fudus> ccsm, untick blur?
[09:21] <frdmn_> can someone help me with this aptitude conflict? I had a problem with a full /boot partition and a new kernel, which I already resolved, but now I stuck with this error: http://hastebin.com/caqupafevi
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Fudus: yes, not sure that will solve his issue, but worth a try?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:21] <soman> auronandace: ok. I thought that ubuntu uses every stable release which is in gcc 4.8 if a remember correctly...
[09:21] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: http://hastebin.com/hitofehupu
[09:22] <Fudus> Do you mean the dash blur or the fade in when you open a window?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !who | Fudus
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: if you su back to your user and run:  sudo apt-get -f install     is it ok?
[09:22] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: I think it's specific to Intel
[09:23] <auronandace> frdmn_: if you resolved the issue by manually deleting something that will likely mess up the package management
[09:23] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: I know they're not really supported, so I'll go and spend about one coffee's worth on an NVidia card instead
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: yes, thats possible..i had months of scree tearing an an ati card once...kernel updates solved this
[09:23] <frdmn_> I just purged the unused kernel to clean up space, which worked
[09:23] <frdmn_> after that I could install the new kernel
[09:23] <frdmn_> but I coudlnt get rid of that error
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: if you su back to your user and run:  sudo apt-get -f install     is it ok?
[09:24] <Marion_> no comments on a problem with sudo apt-get update?  Connection to 127.0.0.1 closed by remote host
[09:24] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: actually, it's an expensive upgrade because it has to be a half-height card for a small form-factor case - two coffee's worth ;-)
[09:24] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: I issued all aptitude commands via root, so there is no user to su back to
[09:24] <auronandace> soman: at the time of the release you are using 4.6 was probably the latest stable release
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: you can su to the user you made when you installed the OS, su to that
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: the fact you used aptitude as root is of no impact to this in any way
[09:25] <Fudus> I suppose using apt-get install didn't help?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: try xubuntu on the box, maybe you can have a fast revival :p
[09:25] <Fudus> insert -f somewhere
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> Fudus: try use tab for nick insert
[09:26] <WereCatf> Is there no package file for php-mdb2-driver-sqlite in Saucy Salamander? I upgraded my system and now owncloud refuses to work because it can't find the files provided by that package
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !tab | Fudus
[09:28] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip
[09:28] <frdmn_> http://hastebin.com/pilodoxuvu.rb
[09:29] <soman> auronandaceL it seems that I mixup 'release' and 'stable' ;)
[09:29] <soman> auronandace: it seems that I mixup 'release' and 'stable' ;)
[09:29] <Raymii_> geirha Still working on the cd...
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> frhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/252777/how-can-i-resolve-dpkg-dependency/258988
[09:29] <Raymii_> geirha No errors yet...
[09:29] <Fudus>  initramfs-tools hängt ab von initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu13.1.1~); aber:
[09:29] <Fudus>   Version von initramfs-tools-bin auf dem System ist 0.99ubuntu13.4.
[09:29] <Fudus> Fun error :P
[09:30] <Rory> Fudus: sudo apt-get -f install
[09:30] <auronandace> soman: 4.8 wasn't released until 2013, so if you are using 12.04 then 4.6 would have been the latest stable release when 12.04 was released
[09:31] <soman> auronandace: ok, thanks
[09:31] <Ben64> !info gcc precise
[09:32] <geirha> Raymii_: Maybe run top in a different terminal to see how much memory it's using
[09:34] <strk> I used to use "ssgrep" with ubuntu Lucid, but can't find it anymore in 13.04, ideas ?
[09:34] <Raymii_> geirha Now I'm getting cd: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: File name too long
[09:35] <strk> "spreadsheet" grep, that is
[09:35] <Fudus> The program 'ssgrep' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install gnumeric
[09:35] <strk> Fudus: oh, thanks !
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> !find ssgrep
[09:35] <Ben64> File ssgrep found in gnumeric
[09:35] <strk> I'm suprised "apt-cache search ssgrep" doesn't return any hit
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> strk: you'd need to use apt-file   to search the packages contents
[09:35] <Fudus> Just typing in the command tells you which package to install sometimes
[09:35] <Ben64> strk: it shows what Fudus says if you type "ssgrep" on the terminal
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> strk: or use ubottu :)
[09:36] <strk> thanks all, good tips :)
[09:36] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: okay, I could remove the apparmor package via dpkg but I still cant instlal the initramfs package http://hastebin.com/boyejujeve
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: does it work as your first user you made when you installed?
[09:37] <Fudus> frdmn_:  Tried  dpkg --configure -a  ?
[09:37] <frdmn_> Fudus: thats the first command I issued in the hastebin
[09:37] <syrious> ok I'm trying to do two things, install CPU-Z on Ubuntu 13.10 (or something similar) and I'm trying to update my graphics drivers outside of the Additional drivers option, because I know that this Notebook can handle higher graphics than I am currently able to push. Can I get any help please? PM me if you have any suggestions
[09:38] <Fudus> Oops sorry
[09:38] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: nope same problem
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: what is the output of:    grep 1000 /etc/passwd | cut -f1 -d":"
[09:39] <frdmn_> the user "web"
[09:40] <jhjhjhjh> hi, how do I run any linux distro under windows without overloading the machine? situation: i regularly use linx, I am not at the university, whre every student has an account to a personal desktop: windows 7
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: ok, so run:  su web -c 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[09:40] <WillRock> been lurking for a while. sorry for the sudden question but not been in touch for a long while now, about 3 years. I was able to add the file in the folders sites-enabled in etc/apache2 and also have the right address on it, checked all the spellings too. I also have the folders and files and the index files in the right location.
[09:41] <WillRock> All the other websites on the ubuntu 8.04 server work fine
[09:41] <jhjhjhjh> i find it stupid to have to be constantly switchin between linux and windows, id rather use linux only
[09:41] <WillRock> except for the new one I'm trying to set
[09:41] <WillRock> I check the A records multiple times. It's working and directed correctly.
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> jhjhjhjh: would be a good idea to install ubuntu only
[09:41] <jhjhjhjh> im afraid a virtualiyation would blow most of the not so modern machines the uni has
[09:41] <WillRock> What am I missing here? Could anyone help?
[09:41] <jhjhjhjh> lotuspsychje: afraid i cannot do that, i dont have admin privileges
[09:42] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: http://hastebin.com/suvakahewu
[09:42] <Ben64> WillRock: 8.04? long long since unsupported
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> jhjhjhjh: run ubuntu in virtual machine?
[09:42] <jhjhjhjh> the easiest way would be to install a virtual machine and run linux, wouldnt be?
[09:42] <frdmn_> do you need english locale messages?
[09:42] <jhjhjhjh> lotuspsychje: how much ram do I need to do that without rendering the machine so slow it becomes useless?
[09:43] <WillRock> Yes. Ben64, I do realize that. I was all into it back in 2009 and continued to use it until recently but lost touch. Thing is, I am trying to read up but have long since forgotten everything.
[09:43] <WillRock> For now, I just need to add a new website-domain
[09:43] <Ben64> WillRock: you should install 12.04
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> jhjhjhjh: as you need a windows virtual machine, try the ##windows channel
[09:43] <Rory> jhjhjhjh: I'm running 2 full VMs simultaneously on a laptop with 8GiB RAm and neither are slow
[09:44] <jhjhjhjh> Rory: thats because you have 8 GiB RAM
[09:44] <WillRock> I will. Soon. You know what is crazy man? I didn't log into my Slicehost account for like 3 years and now it turned to rackspace and my slice works but is missing in their official record!
[09:44] <auronandace> jhjhjhjh: you don't have admin privileges but you can install virtualbox? that doesn't sound right
[09:44] <WillRock> So, too many issues to sort if I have to install new version.
[09:44] <WillRock> For now, just need to get the site up.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_:  wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage;sudo ./fixpackage
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: :p
[09:44] <Ben64> WillRock: well 8.04 is not supported here, and it would be horribly insecure
[09:45] <WillRock> Thank you. I understand. I am asking the question despite that fact. Maybe I'm missing something simple... A records, sites-enabled configuration and ...what else could I be missing?
[09:45] <kkaka> hi all, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS, right now i am using pidgin, but i am downloading a file using uget and data usage in both system monitor and uget shows different stastics. I was only using uget and it was showing download speed app. 10-12 kBPS while in system monitor it was never below 20 kbps,  i thought whatever be speed, i need data, then i try to monitor, uget downloaded only 1 mb while downloaded data in system monitor was nearly 2 Mb, where is the res
[09:46] <Ben64> WillRock: you seem to not be understanding what "not supported" means.
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> WillRock: follow Ben64 advice and install a version from topic
[09:46] <otilia> hello! can anyone help me to increase the resolution on my laptop: spci -vnn | grep -i VGA
[09:46] <otilia> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/6
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> WillRock: call Microsoft and state you have Windows 95 with an issue, how much support do you think you will get?
[09:46] <WillRock> Oh well... okay. Thank you for the info anyway.
[09:46] <geirha> Raymii_: Hm. How far did it get?  tr -cd / <<< "$PWD" | wc -c
[09:47] <kkaka> i don't know what is running in the background, but when i stop uget, data usage get stopped
[09:47] <WillRock> Sorry
[09:47] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip:no luck  :/ heres the output: http://hastebin.com/gogagudeti
[09:47] <Rory> WillRock: Try asking #httpd and don't tell them what version you're using unless they ask
[09:47] <jhjhjhjh> i cannot install virtualbox
[09:47] <jhjhjhjh> as said, I dont have admin privileges
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> WillRock: if you do a clea install of Precise you will get support and updates til April 2017
[09:47] <jhjhjhjh> can you guys think of a workaround?
[09:48] <geirha> Raymii_: if you go a few steps up, then mount-bind that, you might get further in
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> jhjhjhjh: a liveusb of ubuntu to boot?
[09:48] <auronandace> jhjhjhjh: we are not here to circumvent your university's security
[09:48] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: I have xubuntu, it's *horrible*
[09:48] <jhjhjhjh> lotuspsychje: will try!
[09:48] <kkaka> when i run, data usage again starts but uget is downloading actually half  in the file, rest of downloading, i don't know.
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: even more trouble then ubuntu desktop?
[09:49] <kkaka> and i am being charged , as shown in the system monitor stastics
[09:49] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: it's painful to use, and horribly slow
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: what is the output of:  apt-cache policy initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin
[09:49] <WillRock> Affirmative. I mean, I can't argue with that. I was just hoping for a quick fix as I would anyway have to call Rackspace and sort out the issue with my missing slice and reinstall everything.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: that makes no sense if you are used to unity...
[09:49] <jhjhjhjh> lotuspsychje: for that to work I should click f2 while the machine loads to access bios and load the usb, right?
[09:49]  * ObrienDave loves his Xubuntu. PFFFFFFFT ;P
[09:49] <WillRock> Temporary fix.
[09:49] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: http://hastebin.com/fihowujole
[09:49] <atrophy> Hello everyone?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: what are your other sys specs?
[09:50] <WillRock> But thanks to everyone for chiming in. Have a superior day.
[09:50] <reisio> 'lo
[09:50] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: 3GHzish Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, onboard Intel graphics
[09:50] <kkaka> why these download manager are not working the way like IDM, which provide best download speed and some loss of data is okay but we can't loose half of them wasted.
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> frdmn_: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install initramfs-tools initramfs-tools-bin
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: and xubuntu is horrible?? that makes no sense mate
[09:50] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: <shrug>
[09:50] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: also, I just plain don't like XFCE
[09:50] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: http://hastebin.com/joqosaceni
[09:51] <gordonjcp> it's like a horrible car crash between Gnome 2 and OSX
[09:51] <luis_> hey all!
[09:51] <kkaka> Problem is that, data actually being downloaded by uget is 10 Mb and data shown downloaded by uget is 5.5 Mb, why??
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> gordonjcp: but does your text disform still around?
[09:51] <atrophy> Hi i tried a livecd 4 hours ago, and i have been attempting to print  a webpage inside mozilla firefox. The page would print only if it's set as "US Letter", if i change the paper type, the print job would freeze, i have printed 30 tries for 4 hours now but to no avail. I have searched online but there is no answer. :'( Can anyone kindly help me oh please :'(
[09:51] <otilia> hello! can anyone help me to increase the resolution on my laptop esprimo mobile v5535, with sis 771 driver?
[09:51] <atrophy> It's a "LiveCD" ubuntu version
[09:51] <luis_> I need your help with the installation of the Lamp server through tasksel
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | luis_
[09:52] <atrophy> It's an Ubuntu LTS 12.04 livecd :'(
[09:53] <ace_me> I have on tty2 ctrl+ALT+F2 a install process running ! Can I make this windowed to see it in my desktop ?
[09:53] <ObrienDave> atrophy, the "live" version probably does NOT have the proper drivers for your printer.
[09:53] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: seems to be, yes
[09:54] <luis_> I've just installed the Lamp server with tasksel, but I wasn't prompted for any root password for MySQL, like said in all the tutorials I've read on the web. Any idea??
[09:54] <atrophy> ObrienDave: the printer works though sir. the only closest i found online is this - " print menu insists on us-letter as default... try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1"
[09:55] <atrophy> ObrienDave: it works on us letter only, and it prints very fast, but the minute i change to one the long list of paper types found in the firefox print setting, it would hang and freeze up
[09:55] <Fudus> luis_: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/mysql.html  you would like to change the MySQL root password, in a terminal enter:
[09:55] <Fudus> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[09:56] <Zorky> Can someone link a good guide on how to install a vpn server on ubuntu server 12.04
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | Zorky
[09:56] <Fudus> Zorky: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html
[09:58] <Zorky> thanks. but now im getting even more confused. the other guides i have found. says i need to specify a bridge connection in etc/network/interfaces
[09:58] <dee> Anyone care to see my question? http://askubuntu.com/q/379756/53399
[09:58] <otilia> VGA  Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/6
[09:59] <otilia> how can i improve resolution?
[09:59] <luis_> Fudus: that's what I tried to do next, but I couldn't. I typed mysqladmin -u root password mypassword for the 1st time, and access denied. Then I tried this way: mysqladmin -u root -p password 'mypassword', ans I was prompted for a password which I can't guess
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> dee: you can install nmap and see what port your sql has with nmap -PN -sV youripadress
[10:00] <beilabs_> Hi all, have 2 * 4TB drives.  I want to create a software RAID 1 on them both.  Using the disk utility software.   Getting the following error: Error: partition length of 7814032002 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of 4294967295  - Any advice?
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> !raid | beilabs_
[10:01] <dee> @lotspsychje - hmm how about the other mysql details?
[10:01] <Fudus> otilia: http://ajoliveira.com/ajoliveira/uk/software/xorg.php
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> dee: whats your actual purpose mysql security?
[10:02] <otilia> thanks fudus
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | dee
[10:02] <beilabs_> lotuspsychje, none of those links of any help.
[10:04] <Fudus> You'll need to use a GPT table instead, there's a limit of the old style to 2GB
[10:04] <Fudus> TB*
[10:04] <beilabs_> Fudus, yeah, just reading up on it now.
[10:05] <beilabs_> thought the GUI could have handled it.
[10:05] <luis_> Any idea of what to do to change the MySQL root password once I've installed Lamp with tasksel? It was set by default. I wasn't prompted to enter it on installation. Now I can't get to change it through CLI
[10:06] <Fudus> luis_: the dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 should bring up a menu which will prompt you for info
[10:07] <Kuroshita> Hey if anyone can help, my ubuntu install is taking 3 minutes after triggering a shutdown to actually action it. I've taken a copy of the syslog to share as I cannot see a reason why it's taking so long. Can someone in the know please take a look for me? http://pastebin.com/mGnP3A1U
[10:09] <luis_> Fudus: Perfect, I've just fixed it with dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5. Thanks a lot! :D
[10:09] <beilabs_> Fudus, raid 1 created.  Thanks for the tip
[10:13] <Fudus> I just searched for the name of the card, can'thelp more than what that page shows
[10:16] <otilia> it isnt work?:(
[10:17] <Fudus> Type out the error messages you're getting, others will give suggestions
[10:17] <otilia> not such file
[10:17] <otilia> i used the first code from that page to edit xorg conf
[10:23] <UrielVigilant> after install and uninstall a gama from Ubuntu software center, the item stayed on menu bar and refuse to be removed . why ?
[10:23] <iszak> On my server I can't access ppa.launchpad.net how can I debug this?
[10:24] <UrielVigilant> After install and uninstall a gama from Ubuntu software center, the item stayed on menu bar and refuse to be removed . why ?
[10:24] <Fudus> otilia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[10:24] <UrielVigilant> After install and uninstall a game from Ubuntu software center, the item stayed on menu bar and refuse to be removed . why ? " COrrection"
[10:24] <otilia> thanx master Fudus
[10:25] <UrielVigilant> 	After install and uninstall a game from LUbuntu software center, the item stayed on menu bar and refuse to be removed . why ? " COrrection II"
[10:26] <UrielVigilant> Joystick don´t work with PlayOnLinux ? Some one experience with it ?
[10:26] <erikrulez> hi
[10:27] <erikrulez> im trying to move a file from desktop into var/www and i get ''permission denied''
[10:27] <erikrulez> via the terminal
[10:27] <erikrulez> imnot given an option for password even?
[10:27] <DJones> erikrulez: Are you using 'sudo mv'
[10:27] <wafflejockTablet> erikrulez: u need correct permissions
[10:27] <erikrulez> no, just mv
[10:27] <erikrulez> move
[10:28] <wafflejockTablet> erikrulez: look into chmod and L's -al
[10:28] <erikrulez> i dont understand, chmod?
[10:28] <Fudus> otilia:  http://ajoliveira.com/ajoliveira/uk/software/xorg.php from that page  do the following step only if you don't have a xorg.conf file at /etc/X11:  #sudo cp 64-bit/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:28] <erikrulez> should i try again with sudo in front?
[10:28] <DJones> erikrulez: /var/www/ is normall owned by root, so unless you've changed the permissions to allow your user access, you'll need to use sudo
[10:28] <wafflejockTablet> Ls -al
[10:28] <wafflejockTablet> erikrulez: Google it
[10:28] <erikrulez> ok
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> erikrulez: the folder var/www folder is root owned, so you will need 'sudo mv' to put it in there
[10:28] <erikrulez> ls -al
[10:28] <wafflejockTablet> erikrulez: on mobile sorry
[10:29] <syrious> can someone please tell me how to install from a .zip file?
[10:29] <wafflejockTablet> U can also chown or chmod the directory appropriately or add yourself to the group, its worth understanding
[10:29] <auronandace> syrious: you don't, what are you trying to install
[10:29] <erikrulez> success, thanks guys
[10:29] <erikrulez> it needed sudo up front
[10:30] <syrious> amd catalyst
[10:30] <Zorky> I asked earlier about a VPN server setup guide. and i got some answers. But im looking for an idiotic proof guide, to setup a VPN server.
[10:30] <auronandace> !ati | syrious
[10:34] <syrious> ok but I've tried to do it through the Additional Drivers option, but the drivers it's giving me aren't pushing the graphics that I know that the Card can do
[10:35] <auronandace> syrious: then you install the drivers from the website or a ppa at your own risk
[10:36] <syrious> and when I go to the website it gives me a .zip file
[10:36] <syrious> thus my original question of how to install from .zip
[10:36] <ObrienDave> you EXTRACT from a zip
[10:36] <auronandace> syrious: you extract the zip file and read the instructions
[10:37] <Fudus> otilia: you need to download the right package from that webpage and ungzip it, it'll be in there
[10:38] <Fudus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_13.4
[10:38] <Fudus> to syrious
[10:39] <iszak> I'm running "sudo resolvconf -a eth0 inet" and it's hanging, should it be?
[10:40] <frdmn_> ActionParsnip: any other idea? :/
[10:42] <Fudus> otilia: all the files are linked on http://ajoliveira.com/ajoliveira/uk/software/xorg.php for your gpu,
[10:46] <nep1x> hii
[10:46] <zerocircle> Hey!
[10:46] <zerocircle> is LAMP available in ubuntu software center
[10:46] <zerocircle> ?
[10:47] <nep1x> can anybody explain which is the real way to unistall packages from the system and release space from the disk??
[10:47] <nep1x> I install texlive-full package in my system
[10:47] <Fudus> apt-get purge insertpackagehere
[10:47] <nep1x> and what does remove option??
[10:48] <Fudus> It leaves config files behind.
[10:48] <dantxo> Hello
[10:48] <zerocircle> Hey
[10:48] <Fudus> zerocircle: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lamp-overview.html
[10:49] <DJones> !lamp | zerocircle
[10:49] <dantxo> in ubuntu server is there any way to know which processes/programs are using the memory?
[10:49] <dantxo> I know I'm using 76% of the memory
[10:49] <nep1x> but option remove also release the space as well as purge?
[10:49] <dantxo> but i would like to know which processes are taking up all that mem
[10:49] <DJones> dantxo: Use the app 'top'
[10:49] <ObrienDave> purge is better
[10:50] <zerocircle> thanks Fudus, DJones, ubottu
[10:50] <nep1x> the point is I ve just used remove and the system remove only 23 KB
[10:51] <Fudus> top then M key
[10:51] <dantxo> Thanks
[10:51] <nep1x> and then I use autoremove option and it s when the system remove the 1.6 gb the package occupy
[10:51] <frdmn_> nep1x: purge would also remove your edited configuration files
[10:51] <frdmn_> *modified
[10:53] <nep1x> do not what configuration files are... I only understand that I installed something (a package) and want to retrieve the space removing the package
[10:53] <nep1x> purge is the option isn't it?
[10:54] <nep1x> remove doesnt do what I pretended
[10:57] <UrielVigilant> after uninstall a game on Lubuntu from software center, the item satyed on the menu . How to remove the item from GAmes Menu on Lubuntu lxde ?
[10:57] <UrielVigilant> 13.10 version
[10:57] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i have troubles with my xubuntu. I can't do reboot actually. When i send my Acer D255E netbook to restart, it hangs somewhere during the POST stage...
[10:58] <XATRIX> Can't tell you precisely, but when the screen goes black, it's not gonna light up again
[10:58] <XATRIX> But the fan, disks and power is on
[10:59] <XATRIX> I have only to cut the power down (5 sec power button press) and start it up again
[10:59] <XATRIX> Don't remember  how long do i have this isse, possibly since the end of this summer
[10:59] <stanislav> hi all
[11:00] <XATRIX> I'm gonna try to boot ubuntu livecd and try to do restart from console or GUI, and see how the kernel will handle it
[11:00] <cfhowlett> stanislav, greetings
[11:00] <Fudus> UrielVigilant: You may need to remove it from ~/.local/share/applications or /usr/share/applications http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu
[11:01] <Fudus> #lubuntu will probably be provide a different way
[11:07] <UrielVigilant> Fudus; thanks i will check there too, because i am newby, and that could be a little hard for me . but
[11:09] <rosco_y> can I put a shortcut to a folder on my desktop?
[11:11] <Fudus> ctrl-shift drag the folder to the desktop from Files
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> rosco_y: just symlink the location to the desktop
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> rosco_y: what is the location of the folder you want?
[11:13] <rosco_y> ActionParsnip: /archive/Documents/Library/Manuals/Graphics/Blender
[11:14] <rosco_y> :) I'm kind of a folder-freak
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> rosco_y: Then run:   ln -s /archive/Documents/Library/Manuals/Graphics/Blender ~/Desktop/Blender
[11:14] <rosco_y> ActionParsnip: Thank you!
[11:14] <yeyeman> I can't find the link to changing my firefox theme
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> rosco_y: you can even 'cd' into ~/Desktop/Blender and you will see the contents, your pwd will also be ~/Desktop/Blender as the path data does not change
[11:15] <yeyeman> and I don't mean the themes that add some picture to the background, but the ones that change icons and every thing
[11:16] <rosco_y> ActionParsnip: Thank you--I still have a ways to go before I get a full grip oon symlinks
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/217008/change-firefox-icons
[11:16] <Fudus> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/complete-themes/
[11:17] <przemek2013> I have a problem when trying to use sqldeveloper under 13.10. When I'm starting no-jar.zip version I'm gettin blank window
[11:17] <rosco_y> ActionParsnip: worked perfectly--thanks again :)
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> rosco_y: symlinks are dead handy
[11:18] <rosco_y> przemek2013: is this in the NetBeans IDE?
[11:20] <yeyeman> thanks
[11:21] <Sarek> hi
[11:21] <cfhowlett> Sarek, live long and prosper
[11:22] <UrielVigilant> Fudus: Can i change to this diretory : /usr/local/share/applications ; then i make DIR, to check what files are inside, then i check the file with the name of the games, and delete it ?that´s  it =? How to delete a file ?
[11:22] <rosco_y> UrielVigilant: 'rm' filename
[11:23] <Sarek> does anyone know where to find up to date information on the project backup-manager? The manpage says there is the web page backup-manager.org but this is a page with asian contents, nothing about backup-manager nor any bugzilla installation or whatsoever
[11:23] <Fudus> Make sure it is the proper .Desktop first, pcmanfan has an option to elevate
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilant: you will need 'sudo' for that , as the folder is root owned
[11:23] <Fudus> Run as root somwhere in pcmanfm's menus
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Sarek: launchpad will have a page or two for it
[11:24] <UrielVigilant> Fudus: thats to do it using graphicly instead terminal doens it ?
[11:25] <Fudus> Yes
[11:26] <Sarek> ActionParsnip: thanks, will have a look at it
[11:27] <TazmainianDevil> hi all I need some help with running a program that is similar to git at startup.
[11:27] <Razkin> TazmainianDevil: use google.com.
[11:28] <Rory> !details | TazmainianDevil
[11:30] <TazmainianDevil> I am having a problem with perforce I am running ubuntu 12.04 when I put the command /Perforce/p4d in the /etc/rc/local file the server starts but it does not start correctly. As in I cannot access the server although it is running. When log into the server and cd /Perforce and then ./p4d it works perfectly.
[11:32] <TazmainianDevil> ubottu, is that better ?
[11:32] <Rory> TazmainianDevil: is /Perforce/p4d the full path to the executable?
[11:33] <no_gravity> Strange. An "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" seems to have increased the mysql version from 5.0 or so to 5.5. I thought it would only fix security bugs?
[11:33] <TazmainianDevil> Rory, yes it is
[11:34] <Rory> TazmainianDevil: when the server has started up with your entry in rc.local, can you see the process when you run "sudo ps aux | grep p4d" ?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, no you also upgraded all the in-distro packages to the latest releases
[11:35] <TazmainianDevil> Rory yes I can, however it is not accessable. What I mean by that is that I can't access it from outside. I noticed that I can only start it as root.
[11:36] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: packages get updated to new versions? is there no way to simply keep the box safe without that?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, sure.  only apt-get upgrade.
[11:36] <Fudus> precise (database): MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version)
[11:36] <Fudus> 5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 [security]: all
[11:37] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: then i often get trouble like "packages xyz have been hold back"
[11:37] <Ben64> no_gravity: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/mysql-server
[11:38] <Ben64> read the text at the top
[11:38] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, that's not a dist-upgrade issue.  that's because not all packages were ready for the upgrade.  usually it fixes itself in a few days.  At least that's been my experience
[11:39] <Ben64> cfhowlett: thats not really true, if you don't dist-upgrade you do miss out on packages
[11:40] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: so you say the way to go is to always apt-get upgrade?
[11:40] <cfhowlett> Ben64, NEW packages?  my understanding was dist-upgrade only upgraded in-distro packages
[11:40] <Ben64> cfhowlett: you should check the apt-get man page
[11:41] <Rory> !dist-upgrade
[11:41] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, check your update settings and set to security updates only if that meets your needs.
[11:41]  * cfhowlett ... goes to study upgrade/dist-upgrade
[11:41] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: i never heard about update settings.
[11:42] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, I'm on xubuntu so my set up is different , but you can specify what you get notified about.
[11:42] <Ben64> for mysql, security updates will still give you 5.5
[11:42] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: notified???
[11:42] <cfhowlett> no_gravity my bad ... update manager is whatyou want .  see system settings
[11:43] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: xubuntu? i do not use a desktop at all.
[11:43] <no_gravity> cfhowlett: i also never heard about update manager.
[11:43] <Ben64> no_gravity: is 5.5 causing a problem somehow?
[11:43] <cfhowlett> no_gravity, no gui, no update manager ...
[11:43] <no_gravity> Ben64: yes. it fucks up when i try to import dumps right now.
[11:43] <no_gravity> Ben64: im trying to figure out why.
[11:44] <Fudus> 12.04 always had 5.5 though? 10.04 has 5.1, not 5.0
[11:44] <Ben64> watch the language in this channel, and you'd be better off fixing that than trying to regress to 5.1
[11:45] <Ben64> no_gravity: you could also try asking in #mysql
[11:47] <no_gravity> Ben64: i will
[11:52] <Topcat> hello channel, i'm at a loss here. Putting docker on 12.04 thought I'd be clever and use the saucy kernel (3.11). I can't seem to change the display resolution down from what i think looks like 1024x768
[11:54] <Topcat> all the help I can find about editing /etc/default/grub doesn't work. GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480, CMD_LINE_LINUX_DEFAULT vga=640 or 786, text
[11:54] <Rory> Topcat: Can you boot from an older kernel by selecting it from the Grub menu? Also I don't understand what the kernel and docker have in common, in the context of this problem
[11:56] <molgrum> i have no system alarm sound in unity, but i do in gnome shell. what could cause this?
[12:00] <SDr> hi guys, on htop, what does the (!) means in the context of " Uptime: 117 days(!)"
[12:00] <SDr> aaaah, http://blog.alexcollins.org/2009/01/14/why-does-htop-display-an-exclamation-mark-next-to-uptime/    ty
[12:02] <ubuntuNewbie> hi guys, I have a problem with installing ubuntu12.04LTS 32bit. I'm trying to run ubuntu on Parallels Desktop 6(for osX). And I got error message like "ubuntu 12.04 bug : soft lockup cpu#0  stuck for 22s! [udevd:1160]" and lots of other messages (screenshot : http://mimosa.snucse.org/~hemi/errormessage.png). How can i fix this problem?
[12:02] <Topcat> Sorry I think my connection dropped
[12:03] <Topcat> Did how you set the resolution change or is it not done with grub by time I'm on the graphical terminal. The font changes to something thinner too. Maybe I should change x11 resolution or something?
[12:03] <viktor> hi all! i need to mount and open a cd in .udf, but it's unable to mount. i installed udflib0, but this install failed and i'm not sure why...
[12:03] <viktor> can somebody pls help me out? thnks...
[12:03] <no_gravity> viktor: what is udf?
[12:04] <ObrienDave> UDF is a file system for CD's
[12:05] <viktor> no_gravity, it's a format, but if you don't know that you probably won't be able to help me out... or was that retorical?
[12:05] <viktor> so basically, i can't mount it on ubuntu (raring ringtail), and i can't install the lib to enable myself to mount it
[12:05] <no_gravity> viktor: im just trying to understand what your question is about. so you want to create a cd in udf format or you have one in udf format and want to read it?
[12:06] <viktor> no_gravity, srry, yes, second option
[12:07] <no_gravity> viktor: ok. i dont know. never used that file system.
[12:07] <Fudus> Right-click/open with/archive manager doesn't work? it did with a random iso i have
[12:08] <viktor> Fudus, was that for me?
[12:09] <no_gravity> viktor: im pretty sure it was for you
[12:09] <Fudus> Oh I thought you had an image file of it, nevermind suggestion :P
[12:10] <no_gravity> viktor: you have a physical CD or ist it a .udf file on your harddisk?
[12:10] <Fudus> Disks has a Create Image action from the DVD drive
[12:10] <Fudus> *Create Disk Image
[12:11] <viktor> Fudus, i can create an image (iso or other) from a drive which i can not read?
[12:13] <Fudus> Disks>Select drive>Gear Icon>Create disk image...
[12:13] <viktor> no_gravity, it's a CD, as mentioned. although the problem would be similar
[12:13] <no_gravity> viktor: creating an image and then opening with the archive manager might work.
[12:14] <TazmainianDevil> Rory, any suggestions what I can do ?
[12:14] <viktor> no_gravity, once again, creating an image of another image that i can't mount?
[12:16] <viktor> can somebody help me install udflib0, or help me with another way to mount .udf, pls?
[12:18] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/359264/how-to-open-udf-volume   viktor
[12:20] <viktor> bazhang, same problem, it will probably work if i install udflib0, but i'm unable to do to error i don't understand
[12:23] <raju> join #bangladesh
[12:23] <ObrienDave> viktor, try udftools or dares
[12:23] <ObrienDave> both are in the repos
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:24] <joao_> problème avec turipal pour twitter arive pas a ce connetter
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !fr|joako,
[12:25] <cfhowlett> !br
[12:26] <BluesKaj> c'est en francais , cfhowlett :)
[12:26] <joao_> ok thank you
[12:27] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, bon!
[12:30] <viktor> ObrienDave, i don't understand, i get the same error codes when trying to install udftools or dares as when trying to install udflib0
[12:31] <ObrienDave> which error?
[12:31] <ObrienDave> and how are you trying to install?
[12:36] <ObrienDave> I just installed all 3 with synaptic. no problems or errors
[12:38] <zenstudio> hello,everyone
[12:38] <cfhowlett> zenstudio, greetings
[12:38] <zenstudio> thx
[12:40] <myndzi> what's responsible for displaying that system information deal upon login on ubuntu 13.10?
[12:41] <viktor> i cant' install udflib0, udftools or dares do to an error i don't understand. can somebody take a look?
[12:42] <viktor> ObrienDave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6447785/ i get the same error with all
[12:42] <viktor> ObrienDave, tried to install with command line
[12:48] <Fudus> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[12:48] <ObrienDave> that is not a problem installing UDF support.
[12:49] <Fudus> You are out of space on /boot
[12:49] <molgrum> does unity and gnome shell use different sound systems or something? system alert beeps are totally silent in unity for me
[12:50] <Fudus> molgrum: does sound work in Videos? the stuff in example content in Unity
[12:50] <viktor> Fudus, how do i fix that?
[12:51] <Fudus> viktor: free up some disk space
[12:51] <molgrum> Fudus: sound works in every app i run, but not with system alert sounds
[12:51] <molgrum> firefox, wine, etc
[12:51] <Fudus> molgrum: in sound settings, is the alert sound set to off?
[12:52] <molgrum> Fudus: it was set to off before, but i turned it up to 100%
[12:52] <Fudus> or set to minimum
[12:52] <ObrienDave> LOL I used to know a zoran 35 years ago
[13:02] <viktor> Fudus, i get this error after "sudo apt-get autoremove" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448031/ Maybe i can enlarge the /boot partition?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> viktor, better to clean your /boot partition - old kernels, etc
[13:04] <viktor> cfhowlett, what would be the best way to go about that? autoremove doesn't work, and i don't want to risk ruining my system
[13:05] <cfhowlett> viktor, you have to ls | grep linux-images   then sudo rm linux-image.  keep a couple of old one's on hand though
[13:05] <philinux> viktor: see step 5 which does a dry run first. http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[13:06] <TazmainianDevil> Hi I am using ubuntu server 12.04 and have lxde install how do I make it that I need to go manually startx ?\
[13:06] <BluesKaj> viktor. sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-25-* (example)
[13:06] <philinux> viktor: that will leave the latest. which if it's booting fine and running then there's no problem
[13:06] <Fudus> whoo for sed: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get  purge
[13:15] <zerocircle> Hi, where is localhost folder in ubuntu?
[13:18] <technec> zerocircle: localhost is not a folder in ubuntu
[13:20] <viktor> philinux, this seems to be deleting some headers newer then my kernel (still dry-run), can that be dangerous?
[13:21] <zerocircle> ok technec :)
[13:21] <philinux> viktor: never seen it do that but thats why there's a dry run. pastebin what it shows
[13:22] <philinux> zerocircle: there's /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[13:23] <philinux> viktor: you can also use synaptic to delete older kernels one by one
[13:23] <philinux> viktor: maybe safer in your case
[13:23] <viktor> philinux, i pasted the whole thing, dry-run is at the end. i'm not entirely sure which are the older ones...
[13:23] <viktor> philinus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448109/
[13:24] <viktor> philinux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448109/
[13:24] <philinux> viktor: which kernel is currently running
[13:25] <viktor> philinux, according to uname: 3.8.0-30-generic
[13:26] <philinux> viktor: thats odd you should be running 3.8.0-33
[13:28] <philinux> viktor: what does this say apt-cache policy linux-generic it should be installed as "This package will always depend on the latest complete generic Linux kernel
[13:28] <philinux> and headers.
[13:29] <viktor> philinux, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448128/
[13:31] <philinux> viktor: aha thats why. sudo apt-get install linux-generic but if your out of disk space i'd manually remove a couple of old kernels with synaptic first
[13:33] <viktor> philinux, so... i'm somehow missing a kernel?
[13:33] <philinux> viktor: you would then need to reboot into the latest 3.8.0.33 kernel to make sure no problems before removing older ones
[13:34] <philinux> viktor: without linux-generic the system will download newer kernels but they wont show up in grub
[13:34] <viktor> philinux, i see, so that's why my /boot is full
[13:35] <philinux> viktor: so you end up stuck on an older kernel. no idea why it's not installed. I dont have a boot partition so never run into this.
[13:36] <philinux> viktor: i would use synaptic and remove a couple of old ones then install linux-generic
[13:36] <viktor> philinux, i can't install synaptics, 'cause of the same problem
[13:36] <viktor> philinux, just tried
[13:37] <B3RN0UT> hi, i've configured a static ip-adress in /etc/network/interfaces but i always get the defualt loopback-adress, any solution what i've made wrong??
[13:37] <marlo> i would like to install linux on a usb stick - not the "install ubuntu iso" but "my own linux os . iso" so that when I boot it, I'm in "my" linux, with my stuff, my tools, my vpn etc...
[13:37] <marlo> much like if i were to install ubuntu on a hard drive, instead of carrying around a hard drive, i'll carry a usb stick
[13:38] <viktor> philinux, maybe i can enlarge /boot partition first? is that a good idea?
[13:38] <philinux> viktor: ok that dry run leaves the current running kernel 3.8.0-30 so no worries there.
[13:38] <Rory> marlo: Take a look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[13:38] <philinux> viktor: after you run the real thing you'll be able to install linux-generic which will pull in the latest kernel
[13:39] <viktor> philinux, so the previous dry-run doesn't mess with my existing system?
[13:39] <philinux> viktor: no
[13:39] <marlo> Rory, thank you... reading
[13:39] <viktor> philinux, okay, running...
[13:39] <Rory> marlo: If you are on Windows, I recommend the tool "linux live USB" which has a one-click option for persistance [ http://linuxliveusb.com ]
[13:40] <viktor> philinux, it aborts automatically
[13:40] <marlo> Rory, yes i've use lilo but i end up with a "ubunutu install" stick
[13:41] <Rory> marlo: That's correct; when you boot from the live environment, any changes you make will persist to the next time you boot it too
[13:41] <marlo> Rory, to which, when i boot, i have to pick "install" or "try" and I really don't want that
[13:41] <marlo> Rory, i was having trouble (which is why i'm asking) installing anything,
[13:41] <viktor> philinux, srry it's the same thing thrice http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448163/
[13:42] <Rory> marlo: You could do a regular ubuntu install to a usb flash drive; you'll need two flash drives for this (or a flash drive and a dvd)
[13:42] <marlo> k
[13:42] <Rory> marlo: I believe the link I gave has a lot of options anyway
[13:42] <marlo> looks like it, yes
[13:43] <viktor> philinux, maybe i can just apt-get remove everything older then 30?
[13:43] <B3RN0UT> does no one have any idea at my problem? i'm using ubuntu server 12.04
[13:43] <TazmainianDevil> how do I disable lxdm from starting up automatically ?
[13:44] <ixion3> I need to make an SMTP relay server, which I want to secure using source IP address - whats the simplest MTA to use for this? I will create a PHP front end to edit the config files (allow new IP addresses) - or perhaps theres an MTA that can use MySQL to keep its config?
[13:44] <philinux> viktor: if that was mine I'd hit the y. It's not removing the running kernel - after it's done then install linux-generic
[13:45] <viktor> philinux, it aborts before i give any input to Y/n.
[13:45] <philinux> viktor: then you'll be left with 30 and 33. 33 will then be the default at grub
[13:46] <philinux> viktor: you need the second line from step 5
[13:47] <marlo> Rory, really what i want would be like, "boot from CD or USB" and then "install" to another USB... then I'd have an "installed" ubuntu on usb...
[13:47] <Rory> ixion3: postfix and exim are both well-regarded MTAs
[13:47] <viktor> philinux, right, srry, was using the dry-run without dry-run
[13:47] <philinux> viktor: i know
[13:48] <Rory> marlo: You can do exactly that http://askubuntu.com/questions/307802/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-a-usb-stick
[13:48] <marlo> Rory, "method 1" in the link you gave me
[13:48] <philinux> viktor: I use this method all the time by the way as I run U+1 and there's always new kernels
[13:48] <marlo> ah, that's it!
[13:48] <philinux> viktor: I always use dry run first. ;)
[13:49] <philinux> viktor: they take up a lot of gigs if they build up
[13:50] <B3RN0UT> i'm using ubuntu server 12.04, it runs in a vm using hyper-v i couldn't get any connection to the internet. I've configured a static ip-adress but got always the default loopback address which is localhost
[13:51] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Can you see your network interface (not the loopback interface) when you run "ifconfig" ?
[13:51] <B3RN0UT> no only lo, but eth0 must be available i guess
[13:52] <viktor> philinux, so it seems. it seems to be doing it's thing now. thnks a lot
[13:53] <philinux> viktor: once it's done it's work sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[13:53] <B3RN0UT> Rory: ifconfig eth0 delivers the correct mac-adress without any ip-adress or mask
[13:53] <Rory> B3RN0UT: That means you haven't configured any IP address for the eth0 adaptor
[13:53] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Could you please put the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file on http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:54] <philinux> viktor: let us know how it all goes!!
[13:56] <viktor> philinux, rebooting now
[13:57] <B3RN0UT> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448221/
[13:57] <Rory> B3RN0UT: You have "iet" instead of "inet" that's a typo
[13:58] <B3RN0UT> that's a mistake in copy paste ^^
[13:58] <West> hi, i get this error everytime I try to update ubuntu. W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages
[13:58] <B3RN0UT> but it was configured as inet
[13:58] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Can you run "sudo service networking restart"
[13:59] <turduks> **Earn 0.25$ Per Lead **. For Details:http://www.StillRemember.Net/Affiliate.htm
[14:00] <B3RN0UT> Rory: "stop: Unknown instance: networking stop/waiting" is the result
[14:01] <btorch> can anyone help me with this please ? http://goo.gl/lx3NXe
[14:02] <btorch> apt-get upgrade is not working due to procps and whoopsie issues
[14:05] <BluesKaj> btorch. sudo dpkg --configure -a , then upgrade again , then if required , sudo apt-get -f install
[14:05] <Rory> B3RN0UT: What Ubuntu version are you using> (use cat /etc/issue to check)
[14:08] <btorch> BluesKaj: tried that already
[14:10] <btorch> BluesKaj: I was able to get procps and whoopsie installed after moving their old /etc/init/ files out of the way
[14:10] <btorch> but now I got a few other packages like initramfs-tools refusing to get upgraded
[14:12] <BluesKaj> btorch. remove whoopsie , the tracker is obviously interfering with your upgrade , it's not necessary any way
[14:12] <btorch> this is waht I get now http://goo.gl/UWFEoV
[14:13] <btorch> can't remove it
[14:14] <btorch> BluesKaj: ok removed it actually but same issue as last paste
[14:15] <B3RN0UT> Rory: i use 12.04.3
[14:16] <B3RN0UT> Rory: the Hostserver use Win2008R2 Hyper-V (core), I defined a Networkcard and "attached" it to the ubuntu server vm
[14:21] <philinux> viktor: hey your back.
[14:21] <viktor> philinux, i think it worked, had to reset my graphics driver, but everything seems to work fine. still not able to read udf though
[14:22] <philinux> viktor: udf is an odd one in linux
[14:23] <philinux> viktor: so you're running the 33 kernel now then as it should be
[14:23] <Tacklas> anyone for sex?
[14:23] <viktor> philinux, yes 33-generic
[14:23] <philinux> viktor: sorted then. you'll be able to update the system now as normal
[14:24] <IdleOne> !guidelines > Tacklas
[14:24] <viktor> philinux, yes, thank you very much
[14:24] <philinux> viktor: you'll need to keep an eye on the boot partition
[14:25] <viktor> philinux, any idea on the udf? i downloaded the usual programs (as i can now), but still can't read
[14:25] <BluesKaj> btorch. purge whoopsie and reboot , get rid of the config files as well
[14:25] <BluesKaj> by doing so
[14:26] <lowtax> hey is ubuntard.com gone or...
[14:26] <lowtax> i loved that site...
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> lowtax: www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[14:27] <koobcam> i dont know why people pick on ubuntu, it always works.
[14:27] <lowtax> ActionParsnip, thanks....looks like its gone :(((
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> lowtax: great site
[14:27] <Rory> koobcam: Mostly personal or political reasons rather than technical. try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic or a general linux channel if you want some less ubuntu-biased opinions
[14:28] <lowtax> technically ubuntu spies on you?
[14:28] <Rory> most criticisms now are aimed not at specific failings in technologies, but rather towards a percieved negative attitude by canonical
[14:28] <Rory> And the "spying" is a part of that, yes
[14:28] <koobcam> what you mean spying?
[14:29] <koobcam> ubuntu doesnt spy? does it?
[14:29] <Rory> koobcam: no
[14:29] <philinux> viktor: package udftools I see is available
[14:29] <Rory> koobcam: When you search in the Unity dash, and you see results like music tracks from Amazon, the way it gets that information is (obviously) by sending what you search to Amazon
[14:29] <koobcam> what?
[14:29] <koobcam> are you serious?
[14:29] <DJones> lowtax: You'd have to ask the site owner, its not an official site, so not really something anybody here can help with
[14:30] <viktor> philinux, udftools, libudf0, dares, already have...
[14:30] <koobcam> how do i disable that?
[14:30] <philinux> viktor: are these udf dvd's if so this might work http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/how-to-mount-udf-dvds-in-ubuntu/
[14:30] <Rory> Well it isn't magic, koobcam how did you think it got those results?
[14:30] <Rory> koobcam: in fact, it's sent to canonical who send it to Amazon, this anonymiises everyone's searches
[14:31] <Rory> koobcam: Go to privacy, and turn off "include online results"
[14:32] <Rory> The link in some people's minds between this feature, and somebody (not sure if they think it's canonical, amazon or both) somehow "spying" on your computer usage is not clear
[14:33] <koobcam> it should have installed it with set to off
[14:33] <Rory> koobcam: This is what i mean by "political" and "personal" reasons :)
[14:34] <koobcam> anyways, i came here for a question
[14:34] <koobcam> i want to encrypt my home folder
[14:34] <koobcam> is there a way to do that?
[14:35] <Rory> koobcam: The easiest way is to back up the contents of your home folder, and do a clean install, selecting the option to encrypt your home folder
[14:35] <viktor> philinux, the line i'm supposed to edit in fstab isn't there
[14:35] <B3RN0UT> Rory: do u have any other suggestion at my problem?
[14:35] <Rory> koobcam: That's the way I'd recommend, but it is possible to modify your existing installation too, just more difficult
[14:35] <Rory> B3RN0UT: What Ubuntu version are you using> (use cat /etc/issue to check)
[14:36] <philinux> viktor: then I guess you must add it
[14:36] <B3RN0UT> Rory: i use 12.04.3
[14:36] <B3RN0UT> Rory: the Hostserver use Win2008R2 Hyper-V (core), I defined a Networkcard and "attached" it to the ubuntu server vm
[14:36] <philinux> viktor: but tailored to your system of course
[14:37] <philinux> koobcam: never forget the password. http://www.howtogeek.com/116032/
[14:37] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Can you try running "sudo ifdown eth0" and then "sudo ifup eth0"
[14:37] <ztane> I have the following problem:
[14:38] <ztane> my firefox, when started, hangs, and unity-panel-service + hud-panel-service take ~ 200% cpu in total
[14:38] <koobcam> no one can hack my password online, i have it written down on a postnote on the fridge.
[14:38] <ztane> also, I cant
[14:38] <B3RN0UT> Rory: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" as you've mentioned before
[14:39] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Yes, so what about ifup?
[14:39] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Were you previously using network manager?
[14:39] <philinux> koobcam: I assume you've seen the link I gave you
[14:40] <B3RN0UT> Rory: "Missing required variable: address | Missing required configuration variables for interface eth0/inet. | Failed to bring up eth0"
[14:40] <koobcam> yes reading it right ow
[14:40] <koobcam> now*
[14:40] <btorch> BluesKaj: it was upstart package that needed to be reinstalled
[14:40] <B3RN0UT> Rory: the ubuntu server installation seems to be based on command prompt ^^
[14:41] <B3RN0UT> Rory: i mean without any gui
[14:41] <Rory> B3RN0UT: yes that's right
[14:41] <Rory> B3RN0UT: I really need to see your actual file /etc/network/interfaces not one you typed out with errors
[14:41] <B3RN0UT> Rory: so i can't use any network manager or did I missunderstood you here?
[14:41] <koobcam> the server admins here, wont let us install ubuntu on any server.
[14:42] <Rory> B3RN0UT: because something in there is wrong, but I haven't seen the file yet
[14:42] <B3RN0UT> Rory: k wait
[14:42] <BluesKaj> btorch. which upstart package ?
[14:42] <koobcam> i am intern, they want us to learn linux. so i found the easiest one i could find.
[14:43] <btorch> BluesKaj: upstart
[14:43] <btorch> BluesKaj: the /lib/init/upstart-job file was missing
[14:45] <B3RN0UT> Rory: I guess i'm lost haha, how can i simply copy/paste the file/code??
[14:45] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Do you have any Internet at all on that machine?
[14:45] <B3RN0UT> Rory: no, i'm working here on a windows machine
[14:46] <ztane> how do I get rid of the unity-panel-service, hud-service consuming all my cpu
[14:46] <B3RN0UT> Rory: the vm seems to have no connection
[14:46] <Rory> B3RN0UT: Well you could type it out again or take a screenshot of the VM window, that would do
[14:46] <B3RN0UT> Rory: okay i'll do it this way
[14:48] <djangonoob> Rory, I think the graphics driver i have installed makes problem. I am the one with the hp 840 g1
[14:48] <koobcam> ok, need to reboot
[14:48] <koobcam> brb
[14:49] <djangonoob> e.g. if screen gets locked it hangs and I have to press ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 again to see login screen
[14:49] <Aaron> djangonoob, try installing the right graphic drivers.
[14:49] <B3RN0UT> Rory: here it is http://www.loaditup.de/files/794631_y25rzf6rsu.jpg
[14:50] <BluesKaj> djangonoob. run lspci | grep VGA to find your graphics chip
[14:50] <Duality> hi
[14:51] <Duality> My laptop keeps crashing, I don't know if it's linux causing this or my laptop just broken, but when it crashes, and I restart the laptop there is a cursor blinking in the upper left corner any ideas ?
[14:51] <Razkin> Duality, can you please post the output of 'dmesg'
[14:52] <Duality> Razkin: I can't get to dmesg since linux doesn't start, infact the grub doesn't even appear
[14:52] <Aaron> then grub was touch Duality
[14:52] <Duality> this already happend a few times after a few reinstalls
[14:52] <Rory> Duality: Check your BIOS settings to make sure you are booting from the hard drive where ubuntu is installed
[14:52] <Aaron> before reboot
[14:52] <Duality> Aaron: don't understand
[14:53] <Duality> Rory: there is only one harddrive and the bios is set to boot from that one
[14:53] <Aaron> Duality, did you configured grub before reboot?
[14:53] <Duality> Aaron: I got to boot once
[14:53] <Rory> !grub | duality check the first link here
[14:53] <Aaron> try booting with the other kernel, Duality
[14:53] <Duality> can't get in grub
[14:54] <lowtax> why would you want to send data to canonical
[14:54] <djangonoob> can you pls help me install the correct graphics drivers for ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. I tried but now I have problems. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6448480/
[14:54] <lowtax> without your permission
[14:54] <B3RN0UT> Rory: I'VE FOUND MY FAULT. sorry for caps :P typed adress instead of address -.-'''
[14:54] <Aaron> djangonoob, try using ati drivers,
[14:54] <Aaron> for that video card.
[14:55] <Duality> after a fresh install, i get to boot, there is a grub, then In ubuntu I get to use my laptop for a while (an hour or so) then linux/ubuntu just freezes, can't get to a console, have to hold the switch to switch the laptop of
[14:55] <Duality> then when i reboot, there is no grub, only a blinking cursor
[14:55] <Duality> the harddrive test no errors
[14:55] <djangonoob> Aaron, from there? http://support.amd.com/de-de/download
[14:55] <koobcam> it worked :)
[14:56] <koobcam> lowtax, i admit, i am thinking the same thing.
[14:56] <Aaron> sorry i don't know german djangonoob
[14:56] <Duality> I am going to try a new install one more time, then if this happens again i am afraid i am going to need a new laptop :S
[14:56] <lowtax> id rather send my data to IBM than canonical...ibm built the machines used in nazi germany
[14:57] <dry[1]> hi. what is the best internet connection monitor for ubuntu? I need one which will popup a massage that my internet connection is broken or its back again.
[14:57] <k1l> lowtax: can we please stick to technical support in here and put that other topics into the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:57] <djangonoob> Aaron, ups sry. http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64. should I install beta?
[14:57] <Aaron> djangonoob, give it a try
[14:58] <koobcam> lol
[14:58] <philinux> Duality: dont use power button do this > http://kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[14:58] <BluesKaj> djangonoob. you must choose the default graphics card in the BIOS , looks like you have an AMD/ATI Radeon pci card so that would be the one to choose
[14:59] <djangonoob> BluesKaj, it is a amd radeon 8750m + intel hd 4400
[14:59] <koobcam> i disabled it, like they said, to prevent ubuntu sending my results to amazon.
[14:59] <djangonoob> BluesKaj, you mean I should select intel?
[14:59] <koobcam> i just hope there are no more little things like this.
[15:00] <ztane> what is wrong with ubuntu firefox :(
[15:00] <ztane> I cant use it even in safe mode
[15:00] <ztane> just hangs all the time
[15:00] <lowtax> koobcam, you can use a firewall to quarantine your ubuntu box
[15:00] <Aaron> ztane, run in on terminal and see for your self
[15:00] <lowtax> so that it cant transmit data to corporations without your consent
[15:00] <koobcam> lowtax, isnt that enabled at startup?
[15:00] <B3RN0UT> I've another question, if i would like to enter a dns-server to the resolv.conv, the comment in resolv.conf tells me "Do not edit this file by hand -- your changes will be overwritten" how should i undertand this? ^^
[15:00] <lowtax> and possibly keep it from infecting other pcs on the network if it were to get hacked by a corporation
[15:00] <philinux> Duality: dont use power button do this > http://kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[15:01] <BluesKaj> djangonoob. not intel , choose AMD Radeon
[15:01] <IdleOne> lowtax: please stop trying to spread fud
[15:01] <ztane> Aaron: nothing shown, -safe-mode, no
[15:01] <ztane> doesnt work in safe mode either
[15:01] <lowtax> IdleOne, ill pm him since you feel i am talking to you
[15:01] <lowtax> which im not
[15:01] <djangonoob> should I remove installed driver before installing a new one?
[15:01] <ztane> I gues something to do with ubuntu integrations
[15:02] <Aaron> ztane, man firefox
[15:02] <Rory> djangonoob: There is no need if you are using the Additional Driver tool; this just switches between them
[15:02] <mihai388> aL
[15:02] <mihai388> sal
[15:02] <Aaron> ztane, also sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to see if theres any changes on firefox
[15:03] <Aaron> my firefox works fine!
[15:03] <koobcam> crap
[15:03] <koobcam> i just did update on ubuntu, and now firefox isnt working.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> djangonoob. , the new driver install should remove the old one
[15:04] <Rory> koobcam: Does the issue occur after logging out and back in again?
[15:04] <lowtax> koobcam, firefox sends your data to google very reliably
[15:04] <lowtax> use GNU IceCat
[15:04] <koobcam> let me reboot.
[15:04] <lowtax> IceWeasel, w/e
[15:05] <comodor> salut
[15:05] <Rory> hello comodor
[15:07] <koobcam> ok, my firefox doesnt work anymore. I just did a software update too
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> koobcam: if you make a new profile, is it ok?
[15:07] <lowtax> remove firefox and use a good browser
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> koobcam: as in, firefox profile
[15:09] <djangonoob> how the amd catalyst installer has options to "install driver ..." and "generate dist specific driver package" ... install driver says that my adapter is not supported
[15:09] <koobcam> i do a firefox -safemode
[15:10] <djangonoob> but it should be
[15:10] <koobcam> and it gives me an error, unable to read /etc/passwd
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> koobcam: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> koobcam: what is the output of:   ls -la /etc/passwd
[15:11] <BluesKaj> dj  you must choose the AMD Radeon in the bios as default before you can install the driver
[15:11] <BluesKaj> djangonoob.^
[15:11] <djangonoob> BluesKaj, I'll give it a try
[15:13] <RockyRoad> Hello there, I'm looking for up-to-date documentation about netboot/pxe install
[15:14] <koobcam> hmm
[15:14] <koobcam> i cant read /etc/issue
[15:14] <koobcam> i cant access /etc at all
[15:14] <Aaron> do you have root access koobcam ?
[15:14] <koobcam> yes
[15:14] <Aaron> try sudo nano /etc/file
[15:14] <koobcam> sudo su -
[15:15] <koobcam> right?
[15:15] <koobcam> ok
[15:15] <bean> yeah, sudo su - will make you root with roots ENV
[15:15] <zykotick9> bean: DON'T use (and especially suggest) "sudo su" it's a BAD BAD thing to do.  use "sudo -i" instead.
[15:16] <bean> zykotick9: :| Explain to me how its a "BAD BAD thing"
[15:16] <zykotick9> bean: you'll break ownerships on your system, for one
[15:17] <bean> :|
[15:17] <lowtax> dont use sudo at all
[15:17] <lowtax> one guy with that can become root and has a weak password will get you owned
[15:18] <bean> I've been admining servers since 2007. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Special_notes_on_sudo_and_shells says that "sudo -i" is similar to "sudo su -"
[15:18] <Rory> lowtax: A better policy then would be "ensure users only have the access they require"
[15:18] <zykotick9> bean: the root account is disabled in ubuntu, by using "sudo su" you are then using that user, and the environment is NOT setup for it.
[15:18] <lowtax> Rory, that is the policy
[15:18] <bean> zykotick9: I've been admining servers since 2007. The user /is/ set up, it just doesn't have a password.
[15:18] <tc0nn> RockyRoad: I can probably help you. What are you looking for?
[15:18] <lowtax> you cant keep the neckbeards from post-it noting their passwords
[15:19] <lowtax> i dont have the same problem with redhat servers / admins
[15:19] <tc0nn> or setting their wordpress admin username/pass to  first_name/first_name... doh!
[15:19] <Rory> lowtax: With a proper corporate password policy, you can
[15:19] <zykotick9> bean: "sudo su" doesn't make ANY sense!  you're using two priv escallations at the same time!  redundant.
[15:19] <RockyRoad> Thank you tc0nn. To start with, I'm not sure which server dhcp is recommanded
[15:19] <Rory> !rootshell
[15:19] <zykotick9> bean: the user exists, but i wouldn't say it's "setup"
[15:20] <RockyRoad> when installing , i got : Note, selecting 'isc-dhcp-server' instead of 'dhcp3-server'
[15:20] <tc0nn> That's the same thing
[15:20] <Rory> root@box# hasn't been a thing since like 1998
[15:20] <lowtax> Rory, in theory yes, in practice....  you can't make a smarter user
[15:20] <tc0nn> RockyRoad: that's just saying the package was renamed
[15:20] <bean> zykotick9: Lets just be done talking about this, because clearly we're not going to agree.
[15:20] <lowtax> the redhat ones are smarter by default tho...
[15:20] <zykotick9> Rory: on ubuntu it hasn't!  elsewhere it's common.
[15:21] <RockyRoad> ok. I had first tried dnsmasq, without success, and I wish I could avoid wasting too much time
[15:21] <koobcam> back, its Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[15:21] <koobcam> whatever that means
[15:22] <hispeed67> anybody know if they have had any success getting the wnda3100 v2 usb wireless working yet?
[15:23] <RockyRoad> tc0nn, is it ok if I follow https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/installation-guide/i386/ch04s05.html ?
[15:23] <zykotick9> bean: last comment/sidenote, i use "su -" daily...  i'm not against using root account, but "sudo su" is BAD advise...
[15:24] <tc0nn> RockyRoad: yes. That's a fairly common way of getting started.
[15:24] <koobcam> ugh, suppose ill install 13.04
[15:24] <lowtax> sudo su -
[15:24] <Rory> koobcam: 13.10 is latest
[15:24] <bean> zykotick9: *shrug* diff the "envs" after you sudo -i or sudo su -.  You're right that sudo -i gives you more env variables but I don't see them as anything that would really be harmful if not there..
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[15:25] <zykotick9> bean: ;) i can't "apt-cache policy sudo" returns Installed: (none).  :p
[15:25] <Rory> ubuntu 12.04, I have ruby1.9.3 package installed, "ruby -v" shows "ruby 1.9.3p0". i am trying to install a package through gems: "sudo gem install camper_van" -> "camper_van requires Ruby version > 1.9.2"
[15:25] <bean> zykotick9: touché
[15:25] <tc0nn> RockyRoad: Here's the important stuff in DHCP:           option tftp-server-name "192.168.10.14";    filename "pxelinux.0";
[15:25] <bean> Rory: I'd check what "sudo gem env" returns
[15:25] <bean> and see if it references ubuntu 1.9.2
[15:26] <koobcam> our professor was teaching us about ruby.
[15:26] <tc0nn> Then I usually tail my logfile to verify the file was served up correctly (no missing, or permissions or NAK's of any kind)
[15:26] <koobcam> he was explaining pointers in ruby, i just dont get it.
[15:26] <lowtax> ruby is only for geniuses LOL
[15:26] <marlo> koobcam, you don't get pointers?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> koobcam: do you have /etc on a separate partition?
[15:27] <koobcam> ActionParsnip, its on the same drive.
[15:27] <koobcam> i am just going to install 13.10 soon as it finishes downloading
[15:27] <Rory> Thanks bean, it says "RUBY VERSION: 1.8.7" - i had to update my ruby version with update-alternatives, how can I also update the version in gems, or should I uninstall the older version completely?
[15:27] <jhutchins_wk> koobcam: Make a backup.
[15:27] <koobcam> i give up getting firefox to work.
[15:28] <bean> Rory: to be honest it's been so long that I'm not sure -- I know the package is ruby1.9.1. I wonder if there is a rubygems1.9.1
[15:28] <koobcam> once its installed, i wont ever do any updates, it broke my firefox
[15:28] <lowtax> updates come at a risk
[15:28] <zykotick9> koobcam: no updates = no security.  best of luck with that...
[15:29] <lowtax> you should have a machine that you update first for TESTING updates
[15:29] <lowtax> because you dont want to hose your main system
[15:29] <lowtax> if you dont test before you upgrade/update ubuntu, you arent going to make it very far
[15:30] <Rory> bean: I just removed the ruby1.8 package and it worked, there was probably a neater way but I don't need both anyway
[15:30] <koobcam> well im downloading 13.1 right now on the other computer
[15:30] <bean> Rory: one would hope you dont need a 1.8 ruby now :) 1.9 is much better
[15:31] <lowtax> if i were a genius id make a facebook clone with ruby on rails
[15:31] <Rory> bean: I don't want any ruby! I only need it for this Campfire->IRC tool
[15:31] <philinux> koobcam: lowtax ubuntu uses phased updates now to prevent breakage > http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2F2013%2F08%2Fphased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04&ei=e9WMUuKWBMithQegy4DwAg&usg=AFQjCNGB5uGgwrTRnda9FXsIIFDcoqJhnQ
[15:31] <bean> Rory: psh, ruby is great! I use it every day.
[15:31] <molgrum> anyone have any idea why my system alert sounds are audible in gnome shell but not in unity? every app has working sound just not the system beeps
[15:31] <philinux> damn google
[15:31] <Rory> short url philinux koobcam http://rory.sh:43523/cF
[15:32] <koobcam> if it prevents breakage, then why did it break on my system? :| i need to report a bug
[15:32] <philinux> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
[15:32] <koobcam> well im downloading 13.1
[15:32] <v1c3> is there any bugzilla package in universe? i dont find it :(
[15:32] <koobcam> its 4 gigs
[15:32] <koobcam> sigh
[15:32] <philinux> koobcam: lowtax https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates
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[15:34] <RockyRoad> dhcp-range ... (sur l'ip) sont bien séparés mais ça ne dit pas qui va répondre le 1er
[15:34] <zykotick9> !fr | RockyRoad
[15:34] <koobcam> brb
[15:35] <RockyRoad> oops, sorry
[15:35] <lowtax> philinux, /me facepalms
[15:36] <philinux> lowtax: you not seen that before?
[15:36] <hispeed67> what is best usb wireless stick to use?
[15:36] <omg_scout> hispeed67: Not sure which is best, I use tp-link and it works out of the box in ubuntu
[15:37] <hispeed67> apparently there isnt any luck with either wnda stick i have. :(
[15:37] <tmmunq> +1 tplink, i have a pci card and switch of there's and theyre both great
[15:37] <hasham> Cinnamon freezes on 12.09 on wallpaper change, any ideas ?
[15:40] <zykotick9> hasham: if you can show me where to download 12.09, i'll reinstall ubuntu on all my systems!  i think you mean 12.10 ;)
[15:40] <hispeed67> or, 12.04
[15:40] <friendO> g to the ubuntu site hasham
[15:42] <philinux> lowtax: why the facepalm?
[15:42] <Yakisoba> Hi! Recently I bought a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled. The official description and the pictures of laptop say:  that this laptop comes with touch screen. But when I click on the screen nothin happens. How to make my linux touch behaviour?
[15:42] <hasham> oh sorry I meant 12.10 :P
[15:43] <lowtax> philinux, looks dumb
[15:43] <hasham> zykotick9: sorry I meant 12.10
[15:43] <philinux> lowtax: you can bypass it with synaptic or update via terminal,
[15:44] <hispeed67> where would i look for support of wireless usb stick? kernel? driver?
[15:44] <philinux> lowtax: it's all about qa in ubuntu now. less borked updates that way
[15:44] <tmmunq> Yakisoba: check first there isn't a button or switch to disable the touch
[15:45] <Yakisoba> tmmunq i say about Touch screen. whyn i press screen nothin happens. i don't know where that button :(
[15:45] <hispeed67> Yakisoba: check the function buttons for touch screen?
[15:46] <linuxpro> when is ubuntu mobile coming out?
[15:46] <Webuntu> not soon enough
[15:46] <Yakisoba> hispeed67 Graphic buttons? i press everywhere. nothing
[15:46] <zykotick9> !touch | linuxpro
[15:46] <tmmunq> Yakisoba: a pyhysical switch
[15:47] <lowtax> philinux, i run debian testing and never have issues like i do with ubuntu
[15:47] <MaynardWaters> Hi guys, I came in here for some help with an old R41 thinkpad. I know there is a known issue where I get an error saying that PAE is required in the kernel. I have tried installing an old version and updating, but I get the same error, does anyone know a way to manually set the pae flag on the newest versions of Ubuntu, so I can it on this old machine
[15:47] <Yakisoba> tmmunq ok.. i'll check.
[15:48] <linuxpro> i would like to promote ubuntu in my region, whats the steps with canonical
[15:48] <hasham> so any one else is having issue with cinnamon wallpapers ? I am using Thinkpad T410
[15:49] <Webuntu> MaynardWaters: you could a remaster using a tool such as Ubuntu customization kit and remove the pae kernel and install the non-pae kernel
[15:49] <penpegu> hello everyone, there is 32-bit version of ubuntu on my 64-bit machine. I don't remember exactly but I might have done it for the notice on the download page that 32-bit suits to machines with less than 2GB ram. as far as I know my PC has 2GB, and when I check it on settings it shows 1.9GB. can I or should I use the 64 bit version?
[15:50] <radiske> guys, i've installed a pci ethernet card, that uses the same module of my onboard ethernet, i don't know how to get it working, ubuntu 12.04 x64
[15:50] <MaynardWaters> Webuntu: thanks for the suggestion, I am not familiar with the customization kit, but I'll read up on it
[15:50] <Webuntu> penpegu: your other bit of ram could be used for graphics.
[15:51] <zykotick9> penpegu: probably NOT.  but there are cases where 64bit might help - if you're doing a lot of media encoding, OR are doing some math/number crunching/statistical analysis...  but probably NOT
[15:52] <zykotick9> penpegu: if you had 4+GB the answer would be YES ;)
[15:53] <tmmunq> i say always install 64 bit, memory is the best upgrade you can make later
[15:53] <Webuntu> is wiki.ubuntu.com down? im getting some proxy error after i sign in.
[15:54] <penpegu> webuntu, zykotick9, thank you for your help! I am not doing the kind of work you mention, but still my work can often be quite intensive..just wondering if 64-bit will be better in this case?
[15:54] <zykotick9> penpegu: keep in mind, if you go 64bit you'll actually have LESS memory available (vs 32bit) - as the code required to run 64bit is larger
[15:55] <Webuntu> penpegu: you only need 64 bit if you have more then 4 gig ram. 32 bit cant see anything over 4 gig.
[15:56] <tmmunq> until you have more than 4gb, then you need to reinstall. unless 4gb is a hard limit on the motherboard, use 64bit
[15:56] <penpegu> I see. so it doesn't interfere with the performance of the device in times of high octane activity? :)
[15:56] <Bsims> 64 bit on a pc with less than 4gb will not hurt
[15:57] <ufk> hello! :)
[15:57] <zykotick9> Bsims: "hurt" probably not, but it might "sting" a little ;)
[15:57] <ufk> when i start apache 2.4 on saucy it tells me that port 443 already in use and it cannot bind to it. but i checked with nmap and nothing takes port 443. what am i missing?
[15:58] <pirret> except 64-bit software use more memory thab 32-bit
[15:58] <pirret> than
[15:58] <penpegu> zykotick9, but the PC itself is 64 bit, does it have no relevance?
[15:58] <Bsims> I'm almost willing to bet any pc bought new in the last 8 years has a 64bit cpu
[15:58] <zykotick9> penpegu: not really, just means you CAN run 64bit OS...
[15:58] <penpegu> zykotick9, I see
[15:59] <penpegu> thank you very much everyone, so it seems that I'm saved from a reinstall for the moment :)
[15:59] <zykotick9> penpegu: also, there are SOME (getting smaller all the time) "issues" with running some software in 64bit OS
[16:00] <Webuntu> ok geeks.. is it possible to install Ubuntu touch on a galaxy s2? if so is it worth it?
[16:00] <zykotick9> !touch | Webuntu
[16:01] <penpegu> zykotick9, interesting, I often heard 64-bit being more stable or reliable
[16:01] <Cira> does anyone know if there's any particular reason why the aircrack-ng suite has been removed from the Ubuntu repositories?
[16:02] <penpegu> or maybe I don't remember clearly, but somehow better
[16:02] <zykotick9> penpegu: it's a better architecture (NO Doubt), but it comes with a cost.  Upgrade your RAM above 4GB, and then my recommendation would be RUN 64 BIT ;)
[16:02] <Cira> I dont need it that bad, just wanted to mess around with it, but if there's some concern about it I can manage without it
[16:02] <zykotick9> Cira: get a Kali LiveCD then fill-your-boots ;)
[16:03] <DJones> !info aircrack-ng
[16:03] <Cira> It's not a matter of getting it... I can always make it from source or add a PPA
[16:03] <DJones> Cira: Appears to be in 13.10
[16:03] <Cira> I'm curious as to why it's been removed
[16:03] <tc0nn> Anyone know why the precise installer doesn't recognize all the fstab/FS options?  Trying to set "nodelalloc,noatime,nodiratime" as option on my /disk1 mount, but only noatime show up...
[16:03] <tc0nn> Or have a source to the list of supported options?
[16:03] <DJones> Cira: The only versions it doesn't show up in are Lucid & Precise
[16:04] <penpegu> zykotick9, I understand. thank you so much!
[16:05] <zykotick9> Cira: <sidenote> be sure to investigate Reaver as well
[16:06] <Cira> zykotick9: thanks
[16:06] <Cira> I've heard of Kali, but not Reaver
[16:06] <zykotick9> Cira: reaver is a tool, included on Kali ;)
[16:08] <radiske> guys, i've installed a pci ethernet card, that uses the same module of my onboard ethernet, i don't know how to get it working, ubuntu 12.04 x64
[16:08] <ikonia> radiske: if it uses the same module it should just work
[16:11] <bunduru> hey i'm using vnc to access my ubuntu computer (ancient hardware, no monitor connected) it is running ubuntu 2d window manager, in hope of better performance i thought i'd give a shot at other window managers weird thing is none seems to behave better than the ubuntu 2d they're acting "choppy" and even crash, what can i do about this ?!
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: try lxde instead
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: what do you do on the remote pc?
[16:12] <knspradeep> hey can any one help me how to open website from remote server
[16:12] <ikonia> bunduru: accept the limitations of your hardware ? stop using it over a network ?
[16:12] <ikonia> knspradeep: what do you mean
[16:12] <tc0nn> radiske: does it show up in dmesg ? Are you sure they use the exact same module?
[16:12] <knspradeep> i am connected to server via remote vpn
[16:13] <bunduru> ActionParsnip, well mostly manage torrents and actually i'm chatting on irc through it =P
[16:13] <Rory> bunduru: Take a look at lxde, you can install a full lxde desktop with the lubuntu-desktop package
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> bunduru: you can manage torrents via web ui if you use transmission
[16:14] <knspradeep> actually i am connected to remote server via vpn i used to open nagios page from that server
[16:14] <ikonia> knspradeep: what's the actual problem ?
[16:15] <bunduru> ActionParsnip, oh yeah private tracker needs authentication through http i think
[16:15] <knspradeep> i need to open nagios page ikonia in windows we usally do tunelling on putty and will try to open the page but now i am using ubuntu
[16:15] <bunduru> Rory, ok i'll try that thanks
[16:16] <radiske> tc0nn: not showing, lshw -C network just show my onboard
[16:16] <ikonia> radiske: so it's not plugged in or broken then
[16:16] <bunduru> i was trying lots of window managers yesterday all of them "crashed"
[16:17] <zykotick9> bunduru: ssh + terminal apps run quickly remotely ;)
[16:17] <bunduru> how can i check which ones i already have installed from cli?
[16:17] <bunduru> i'm pretty sure i have lxde installed =Ç
[16:18] <bunduru> zykotick9, sounds like an option =)
[16:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Will Ubuntu 13.10 packages be older or newer than those that 14.04 is based on?
[16:18] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: most likley yes
[16:18] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: older
[16:18] <v1c3> is there any bugzilla package in universe? i dont find it :( Can ANYBODY help me please? :(
[16:18] <radiske> ikonia: i'll try in a different machine =) let's see if it is ok...
[16:18] <ikonia> v1c3: I'm not aware of an ubuntu bugzilla package
[16:19] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, So the unstable packages in 13.10 will be more mature than the packages in 14.04?
[16:19] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: don't know why you call them "unstable" but most packages in 14.04 will be a later version than 13.10
[16:19] <v1c3> ikonia: are you sure? :(
[16:20] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, Well I know the dev crew does an excellent job of hammering out the bugs, just calling them what they're called to begin with.
[16:20] <Pici> later = newer
[16:20] <ikonia> v1c3: no, hence why I said "I'm not aware" but a package search doesn't show any
[16:20] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: who calls them "unstable" 13.10 is a stable release, I don't know why you are calling them unstable packages
[16:20] <v1c3> ikonia: yes, i dont find it either
[16:20] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, I wasn't sure how quickly the packages change, I just knew that LTS is based on "testin" and regular releases on "unstable".
[16:21] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, They're based on snapshots of debian unstable packages, but like I said, the dev crew does a great job of getting them ready.
[16:21] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: debians "unstable" repo name, does not mean they are "unstable" packages, that is debians release process names, nothing to do with the package versions
[16:22] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, That's what I meant. I'm just calling them what Debian calls them. Gotta be specific if asking for help here, right?
[16:22] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: debian's names have nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:22] <knspradeep> hey can any one help me please
[16:22] <Rory> !anyone
[16:23] <ikonia> knspradeep: hepl you with what ?
[16:23] <knspradeep> to open nagios site ikonia
[16:23] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, I thought regular releases are based on snapshots of "unstable" repo packages and LTS based on "testing".
[16:24] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: again, debians names/release has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:24] <zykotick9> CountryfiedLinux: not really, all ubuntu releases are a mix of testing/unstable
[16:24] <BarackObama313> Yes we can.
[16:24] <ikonia> knspradeep: open what nagios site ? what is the problem
[16:25] <atul> PKG-CONFIG for libcurl how to find out ?
[16:25] <knspradeep> actually in windows i will tunnel to my server and access the nagios page but today i installed ubuntu and ssh to my office server but dono how to open nagios site
[16:25] <CountryfiedLinux> ikonia, Then what are Ubuntu regular releases and LTS releases based on? I thought it was based on their release process.
[16:25] <knspradeep> installed nagios server on office server
[16:25] <ikonia> CountryfiedLinux: ubuntu picks the packages it wants
[16:26] <CountryfiedLinux> zykotick9, Oh didn't know that. I thought it was strictly "unstable" branch for regular and "testing" for LTS
[16:26] <ikonia> knspradeep: I suggest you talk to your office network team and ask them how to connect to the network
[16:26] <bunduru> yup i installed lxde window manager, whats the difference between "install lxde" (which i did) and install lubuntu-desktop?
[16:26] <BarackObama313> Phone: 1-888-NAGIOS-1
[16:26] <zykotick9> CountryfiedLinux: no!  it's all a mix, LTS vs. Regular is the SAME development model.
[16:27] <Jobarte_Skuld> hi guys
[16:27] <Rory> !lubuntu | bunduru
[16:27] <BarackObama313> Anyone try Peppermint?
[16:27] <CountryfiedLinux> zykotick9, Oh, so its just that LTS has the same package base for 5 years instead of 9 months?
[16:27] <ikonia> BarackObama313: nothing to do with this channel
[16:27] <Webuntu> ikonia: you got my vote :)
[16:27] <jmgk_> BarackObama313:  I have
[16:27] <ikonia> BarackObama313: this channel is for ubuntu, please keep to that topic and no more messing around please.
[16:27] <Jobarte_Skuld> exists anyone bug to ubuntu with vitualbox to don't run guest vm with x64 cpu?
[16:27] <Rory> bunduru: lubuntu=desktop installs the entire Lubuntu desktop package with all the programs it comes with, and artwork etc. lxde just installs that desktop encironment
[16:27] <BarackObama313> ok
[16:28] <CountryfiedLinux> bunduru, Lubuntu is awesome. LXDE is more stable than Unity in my experiences.
[16:28] <v1c3> can someone recommend a good bug trafcker?
[16:28] <Rory> Jobarte_Skuld: You need to make sure your select a "64-bit" guest type when setting up the VM
[16:28] <v1c3> which is in repo?
[16:28] <Jobarte_Skuld> Rory, I tried this, I enabled vt-x, i tried such options from searchs
[16:29] <zykotick9> Jobarte_Skuld: are you using a 32bit host system?  if so, your CPU requires virtualization support to run 64bit guests.
[16:29] <Jobarte_Skuld> but run only i386 cpu
[16:29] <Jobarte_Skuld> zykotick9, no, in libvirt runs normally
[16:29] <Jobarte_Skuld> the problem is between ubuntu and virtualbox
[16:30] <BarackObama313> Debian didn't have my wireless drivers, Ubuntu did.
[16:30] <zykotick9> Jobarte_Skuld: that vt-x IS cpu virt support ;)
[16:30] <bunduru> ok Rory so if i have LXDE already i wont gain anything in terms of performance by installing entire Lubuntu right?
[16:30] <Rory> bunduru: No, but if you plan to use lxde full-time you might find your life a bit easier
[16:32] <Jobarte_Skuld> zykotick9, yes, and this option is enabled on virtualbox, i/o apic is enabled too
[16:33] <zykotick9> Jobarte_Skuld: sorry i don't use VBox... i gots nothin'
[16:34] <zykotick9> Jobarte_Skuld: IF you don't get an answer here, you might want to try in #vbox
[16:34] <Jobarte_Skuld> zykotick9, no problem, thanks for your help :D
[16:34] <Bsims> if you like lxde you might like xfce or windowmaker
[16:34] <Jobarte_Skuld> haha, I didn't know that exists a virtualbox's channel here
[16:34] <Jobarte_Skuld> zykotick9, thanks again
[16:35] <bunduru> Rory, got it =) so i think there has got to be some kind of problem here, because from what i read LXDE should behave faster than ubuntu's default 2d and that's not the case all newly installed window managers act weird when i log in using a new window manager it behaves very sluggish and after a few seconds it freezes =(
[16:38] <Rory> bunduru: Did you say you were connecting remotely? it's probably that rather than the actual wm
[16:39] <zykotick9> Rory: +1
[16:39] <zykotick9> vnc = slow
[16:39] <Rory> bunduru: if you're running a server I recommend just using ssh for a text-based connection to manage the server remotely
[16:40] <zykotick9> Rory: +1 again ;)
[16:41] <universal> wireless icon disappeared from right hand icon bar...how to bring it back ?
[16:41] <Rory> universal: nm-applet
[16:41] <bunduru> Rory, yes i am but why does unity2d work and the others behave like that :s
[16:41] <Rory> universal: or log out and in
[16:42] <Rory> bunduru: i'm not sure about that, is that something you consistently notice?
[16:42] <bunduru> at least they should have some kind of performance not login and freeze :s
[16:43] <bunduru> yes from what i tested yesterday that's what happens
[16:44] <nate_> Hello all
[16:44] <Rory> hello nate_
[16:44] <nate_> I am trying to use telnet to communicate with a device via ethernet, however I can not connect to the device
[16:44] <ozberk> Hi guys I need  a guggestion I have a netbook with 2GB RAM - İntel GMA 3000 Graphical driver - İntel Atom Dual Core CPU   which os can you recoomend
[16:44] <nate_> even though I can ping it
[16:45] <nate_> how do I allow telnet to access the device
[16:45] <nate_> ?
[16:45] <Rory> nate_: What do you want to use telnet to do on the device?
[16:45] <Rory> nate_: Telnet can connect to a specific port with the syntax "telnet hostname port_number"
[16:45] <nate_> to pass acsii commands to a OEM system
[16:45] <nate_> I type
[16:46] <nate_> telnet xxx.xxx.x.x PORT
[16:46] <DeepBlue> http://pastebin.ca/2477518  ,  i get this message so often,what should b done?
[16:46] <nate_> The response is: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[16:46] <Rory> nate_: Then there is no program listening on that port, on the target system
[16:46] <nullsign> anyone know how to get glib-2.16 on 12.10 ?
[16:46] <nate_> the thing is I can ping it
[16:46] <nate_> so they see eachother
[16:46] <Rory> nate_: ping means the machine is up
[16:46] <universal> Rory: yes it worked, it brought back the icon...but why the icon was disappeared in first place ? and terminal output with nm-applet ---> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ nm-applet  ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area  ** (nm-applet:16943): WARNING **: Could not find ShellVersion property on org.gnome.Shell after 5 tries ***but nothing happening after org.gnome.Shell after 5 tries, like its stuck
[16:46] <nullsign> 2.16 or higher
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | nullsign
[16:47] <jhutchins_wk> DeepBlue: Try aptitude -f install
[16:47] <nullsign> ppa? eh
[16:47] <nullsign> k
[16:47] <jhutchins_wk> nate_: Why do you think the target has a telnet service listening for connections?
[16:48] <nate_> because I can connect via a windows machine
[16:48] <nate_> I just can't connect via ubuntu
[16:48] <bunduru> brb going to log in to another windows manager a see how it goes hopefully it wont the gui wont freeze
[16:48] <Rory> nate_: are you typing the hostname/ip and port number correctly?
[16:49] <Rory> nate_: for example "telnet rory.sh 1234"
[16:49] <jhutchins_wk> nate_: ubuntu's telnet doesn't do anything differently.
[16:50] <BrianH> nate_: sudo netstat -lptu
[16:50] <nate_> ok
[16:50] <GomoX> I am trying to upgrade a server to 12.04 and the pdns-backend-mysql upgrade script is using the wrong database name and can't upgrade, any pointers on where that is set?
[16:50] <nate_> I will use netstat
[16:50] <DeepBlue> jhutchins_wk: ok,it's runnung,thanx
[16:50] <nate_> rory: yes I figured as much
[16:50] <Rory> nate_: BrianH's command needs to be run on the *target* machine via something like ssh, not on something you're connecting *from*
[16:51] <nate_> I figured I didn't have rights to the socket
[16:51] <BrianH> Correct, that's for the server, not the client.
[16:51] <Rory> nate_: You can confirm the port is open by scanning the target with nmap; install nmap then run "nmap target_hostname -p port_number"
[16:52] <Rory> nate_: But i sense it won't be open
[16:52] <nate_> Rory: I will do that
[16:52] <BrianH> Anyone here use pitbull for IDS benchmarking?
[16:52] <BrianH> err, pytbull*
[16:53] <Cpt-Cupcake> Good Evening! :-) I seem to have slight issue with my ubuntu server, as I want to add a subdomain, but can't quite figure out how. I assume I will needing to use VirtualHost?
[16:53] <nate_> Rory: you are correct if I attempt to use port 5024 it quits
[16:53] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Do you already have the DNS all sorted out, so you can ping the subdomain?
[16:53] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: basically, is this an apache question or a networking question?
[16:54] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: I have installed LAMP and got the DNS with my main domain configured
[16:54] <nate_> however if I leave off the port, then it says "23/tcp open  telnet"
[16:54] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Can you first clarify if you can ping the subdomain you want to set up
[16:54] <Rory> ok nate_ then port 23 is open
[16:54] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: I now created /var/www/ghost and want ghost.mysite.com to link to that folder
[16:55] <KamZou> Hi, is the ubuntu 13.10 providing lxc wheezy templates ?
[16:55] <nate_> Rory: Thanks  nmap is something I won't forget to use in the future!!
[16:55] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: What exactly do you mean by pinging?
[16:56] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Run the command "ping ghost.mysite.com"
[16:56] <Rory> nate_: fyi port 23 is default for telnet, so if you run "telnet hostname" it will connect to port 23
[16:57] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: That will just check that your DNS is all set up and working, which needs to be sorted out before starting to configure apache
[16:57] <hikenboot> hello I have saucy and am wondering if there is packages for gmp mpfr and mpc (prepackaged version for this version of ubuntu)
[16:57] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: It's loading, but not doing anything else. I can only ping mysite.com
[16:57] <nate_> Rory: yes I am connecting to my own computer.  not the device.  let me check the LAN settings
[16:57] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: So you can't ping the subdomain you're trying to set up?
[16:57] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: I guess not
[16:57] <nullsign> when using PPAs, how do you find the software? trying to locate one for glib, yet ppa:glib/ppa results in nada.
[16:58] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: Do I need to change the DNS or something?
[16:58] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Then you need to go to wherever you manage your DNS settings (GoDaddy or whatever) and make sure there's a record for the subdomain
[16:58] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: an A record?
[16:58] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: yes.
[16:58] <BarackObama313> Oprah G. Winfrey
[16:59] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Subdomains don't "automatically" resolve, so "foo.example.com" will not resolv to anything unless there's actually an A record for it (just an A record for example.com isn't enough)
[16:59] <Ziber> I'm starting to learn more and more about iptables. Do I have to specifically set a rule in my FORWARD table for it to work or can I just set the policy to ACCEPT?
[16:59] <nullsign> Ziber: forward is for forwarding.
[17:00] <nullsign> Ziber: if you set the default policy to accept, then everything in that category is accepted
[17:00] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Once you know that subdomain.yourdomain.com points to the IP address of your server, then read this information carefully, it tells you what you need to know to set up a name-based virtual host in Apache http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html
[17:00] <Ziber> nullsign: Alright...
[17:00] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: Thanks mate, hope it works :)
[17:01] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Come back and ask for help if you have problems following that, or ask in #httpd which is the channel for Apache. But there's no point worrying about this apache stuff until the DNS is working :)
[17:01] <nullsign> what is the ppa syntax for this? https://launchpad.net/glib/2.26
[17:01] <Cpt-Cupcake> rory: And I've been trying to setup VirtualHost the entire time, noticing that it doesn't work ._.
[17:01] <nullsign> apt-add-repository ppa:glib/2.26/ppa  <- no good.
[17:02] <Rory> nullsign: That isn't a PPA, what you just linked
[17:02] <Pici> nullsign: Thats not a PPA.
[17:02] <nullsign> well damn.. where do i find a ppa then?
[17:02] <DeepBlue> jhutchins_wk: i ran aptitude -e install.here is the output , http://dpaste.com/1475059/
[17:03] <DeepBlue> jhutchins_wk: i ran aptitude -f  install.here is the output , http://dpaste.com/1475059/
[17:03] <Pici> nullsign: What are you trying to accomplish?
[17:04] <nullsign> Pici: i need a new glib installed
[17:04] <jhutchins_wk> DeepBlue: You realize that since you are running Mint, not Ubuntu, advice we give you could end up totally bricking your system?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> nullsign: use the search tool. Ubottu has a link
[17:04] <Pici> nullsign: Why?
[17:04] <nullsign> Pici: 12.10 tops out at glib-2.0, i need 2.16 or higher
[17:04] <xangua> !mint | DeepBlue
[17:04] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: Is it normal, that it tries to ping ghost.mysite.com.com instead of ghost.mysite.com ?
[17:04] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: No
[17:05] <nullsign> Action: Ubottu?
[17:05] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: What about "host ghost.mysite.com"
[17:05] <shwaiil> Hi
[17:05] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: That won't check if the host is up, it will just check the DNS
[17:05] <Rory> Hello shwaiil
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> nullsign: Since glibc is an essential core part of the system, unless you are creating a build environment for another system installing a foreign glibc will only bring you grief.
[17:06] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: Host ghost.kotarodesign.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[17:06] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: Not up :-/
[17:06] <Rory> Ok Cpt-Cupcake that's pretty conclusive :)
[17:06] <nullsign> jhutchins, i just need it for a single compile
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | nullsign
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> nullsign: use TAB to autocomplete nicks
[17:07] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: I will just give it like 30 minutes and then check again
[17:07] <shwaiil> Q: On Ubuntu server, when we do apt-get update, we're getting all the latest updates for our current OS, in my case 12.04, correct ?
[17:07] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: Thanks for your help mate, you're a real live saver :D
[17:07] <Cpt-Cupcake> life*
[17:07] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: have you set up a record for the "ghost" subdomain with DigitalOcean (or whoever your registrar is)
[17:08] <jhutchins_wk> nullsign: You realize that if you compile it with a different glibc it probably won't run on your system, right?
[17:08] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: Yeah, digitalocean. I set up my domain already and added "ghost" as an A record
[17:08] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: OK yes it can take a while to propagate due to the nature of DNS
[17:08] <nullsign> jhutchins_wk: i was hoping for a solution in which both libs could co-exist.
[17:09] <tmmunq> shwaiil: you just get the updated list, use upgrade to install
[17:09] <Pici> nullsign: libglib2.0-0 provides 2.34.1-1ubuntu1 in quantal anyway, its very likely you already have the version you need.
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> nullsign: You'll need to find a version of the software you're building that works with your existing glibc.
[17:09] <shwaiil> tmmunq: thanks a lot for looking. how to know what upgrade is going to actually "upgrade" ?
[17:09] <nullsign> jhutchins_wk: sigh.. ok
[17:10] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=f2c87d3 ----> nm-applet in terminal looks like stuck, nothing happening after 2nd line of msg, the signal icon disappears again after ctrl+c in terminal. also nm-applet in alt+f2 run command 2 times is now showing 2 signal icons, how to remove one icon ?
[17:10] <nullsign> maybe 14.04 will have 2.16+ ;)
[17:10] <nullsign> next year..
[17:10] <Pici> nullsign: please see my message.
[17:10] <tmmunq> shwaiil: it will ask you to confirm the patches
[17:11] <Rory> universal: I recommend just logging out and in again
[17:11] <shwaiil> tmmunq: ok thanks :)
[17:11] <universal> Rory: ok , thnx but whats the reason for this error ?
[17:11] <nullsign> Pici: ahhh
[17:11] <jhutchins_wk> nullsign: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/847179/multiple-glibc-libraries-on-a-single-host http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5169845/how-to-use-two-versions-of-glibc-simultaneously
[17:11] <Rory> universal: Difficult to say
[17:11] <Pici> nullsign: you just need the libglib2.0-0-dev package.
[17:11] <CountryfiedLinux> Ok just realized one of the albums on my phone was untitled track, music, and no album art.
[17:11] <nullsign> ahhhhh
[17:11] <nullsign> thanks
[17:12] <CountryfiedLinux> Had to install an album art grabber and an album tag apps.
[17:12] <Rory> universal: You could look for a likely-looking log file in /var/log and see if there's an error in one of them that looks useful, but frankly if it isn't happening repeatedly I'd just get on with your life :)
[17:12] <universal> Rory: for the sake complete roundup, nm-applet in alt+f2 bring back the signal icon but now how to remove the same signal icon if i want to ?
[17:12] <CountryfiedLinux> Then had to delete that folder from dropbox and banshee then add it to them again with the correct art and tags.
[17:12] <mmiller13> does anyone know why I keep disconnecting from my router?
[17:12] <Rory> universal: You could killall nm-applet
[17:13] <onizu> hello. i need help with configuring my nvidia onboard graphics
[17:13] <Rory> !details | mmiller13 onizu
[17:13] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm gonna look into setting up an Amazon MP3 cloud
[17:13] <universal> Rory: hmm, kill all and start a single again, hmm. thnx :)
[17:14] <Rory> universal: You could find the specific pid and use the "kill" command
[17:14] <onizu> ubuntu 13.10 - nvidia geforce gt 540m - optimus - laptop resolution 1366x768 but ubuntu loads at 1024x768 - i tried bumblebee but no help.. so i removed it and any nvidia-*
[17:15] <universal> Rory: I did killall nm-applet and alt+f2 nm-applet, its good now with a single signal icon, thnx again :)
[17:15] <mmiller13> I have a problem... For some reason I keep getting disconnected from my router. This is  a new installation of ubuntu 13.10 x64. I did a system update via apt but still no luck.
[17:16] <Rory> mmiller13: Are you connected wirelessly?
[17:16] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: reset the router.  How's your signal strength?  What messages do you see in dmesg or /var/log/syslog?
[17:16] <Rory> mihai388: is it a laptop? What is the make/model of the laptop, or the wireless hardware?
[17:16] <universal> whats the use of "alt" "type your command" ?
[17:17] <Rory> universal: it runs a command
[17:18] <Rory> universal: well "alt" and then "command" will only show it if that is in the menu. if you want to run an arbitrary command you use alt+f2
[17:18] <universal> Rory: alt+f2 runs a command, I'm asking about only "alt" "type your command"
[17:18] <universal> Rory: oo ok
[17:19] <Rory> universal: That will search the menu, files on your pc, available packages, and Amazon
[17:19] <Rory> universal: And possibly some other things as well, i can't remember
[17:19] <universal> how to stop it searching amazon or anything online, they log lots of data
[17:20] <Rory> universal: privacy -> disable "online sources"
[17:21] <lowtax> echo -ne '0.0.0.0 canonical.com\n0.0.0.0 amazon.com' >> /etc/hosts
[17:21] <universal> ok
[17:21] <Rory> universal: They don't log any data which can be tied to you; all the searches are first sent to canonical so Amazon has no idea where the searches are coming from. I believe canonical also caches some results to save sending unnecessary hits to amazon
[17:22] <universal> Rory: what about canonical being a part of prism ?
[17:22] <nullsign> has there any been an agreement on whether to use /opt or /usr/local for custom compiled packages?
[17:22] <Rory> universal: lowtax's command will prevent you from accessing anything hosted on the domains "amazon.com" or "canonical.com"
[17:22] <nullsign> at least for ubuntu
[17:23] <universal> ok
[17:23] <Rory> universal: is that a real question you want an answer to? I recommend you do a little research, since canonical is not "part of prism"
[17:23] <universal> sounds soothing
[17:23] <gordonjcp> nullsign: /usr/local
[17:23] <gordonjcp> nullsign: that's how it's been for 30-odd years
[17:23] <Rory> nullsign: We generally use /usr/local/
[17:23] <jubale> Anyone had problems with Google Calendar screenlet refusing to launch?
[17:24] <Rory> nullsign: For example, distro-packages go in /usr/bin, compiled packages go in /usr/local/bin
[17:24] <Rory> nullsign: distro-libs go in /usr/lib, user-compiled-libs go in /usr/local/lib
[17:24] <bunduru> back, so i'm now back on ubuntu 2d WM just tried Fluxbox, LXDE, XFCE these all froze
[17:24] <Rory> nulbover VNC?
[17:24] <Rory> bunduru: over VNC?
[17:24] <bunduru> yes Rory
[17:25] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: It's working now and linking to the homepage. How do I link it to a folder?
[17:25] <Rory> Cpt-Cupcake: Did you read the link I gave you to the apache doc page?
[17:25] <Cpt-Cupcake> Ah my bad, I will check it out
[17:26] <shwaiil>  Q: Is there a way to check how much my ubuntu 12.04 LTS is taking ? Thanks!
[17:26] <jhutchins_wk> shwaiil: How much what?
[17:26] <mmiller13> I'm wireless... I constantly have to reboot in order to get back online.
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: Why not just reconnect?
[17:27] <shwaiil> jhutchins_wk: thanks for looking, sorry I mean space. I've allocated let's say 64 GB of a disk, but I need to do backups, so I'm thinking about resizing this. Not sure if a good idea, though.
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> shwaiil: If you're going to mess with partitions, make backups first.
[17:27] <shwaiil> jhutchins_wk: ok
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> shwaiil: df -h will show how much space is used on visible disks.
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> s/visible/mounted
[17:29] <universal> 1 more question - how to "apt-get update offline" ? meaning updating the index files without connecting to internet, assume that I have multiple systems to update and I dont have access to internet or I dont want to "waste" my limited montly bandwidth for the same updates everytime which I can somehow copy and update index files on other systems Rory
[17:29] <shwaiil> jhutchins_wk: let's say I have a VPS (linode) and I allocated all the space for this image running ubuntu 12.04. By using df -h, I see I'm not using it fully. Is this the right wa to see if I have enough space to actually resize the allocated space ?!
[17:29] <xstefen> Is it a bug in 13.10 that after adding wins to nsswitch.conf and installing winbind, you are still unable to ping by name?
[17:30] <mmiller13> The router no longer appear in my network
[17:30] <mmiller13> As a quick fix, does anyone knows how to refresh my system without rebooting. like and init4 option.
[17:31] <jhutchins_wk> shwaiil: Yes, it shows how much space you have used.
[17:32] <bunduru> Rory, yes through vnc, ubuntu 2d WM is the only one that actually is working, tried Fluxbox, LXDE, XFCE these all work for some seconds and then freeze
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: Again, I would check dmesg and /var/log/syslog to see what the system thinks is happening.
[17:33] <jhutchins_wk> bunduru: If all of the DEs you try freeze the problem is probably not the DE.
[17:33] <mregg964> Hi, I need to create a pair of ssh keys for www-data, but I'm relunctant to leaving them in /var/www for security reasons. Where can I move them to and how ?
[17:33] <codenomics> trying to install ubuntu server and running into some issues. Is this the right place to be?
[17:34] <codenomics> or is there a server specific channel
[17:34] <bunduru> jhutchins_wk, all the new ones yes
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> codenomics: Give us a shot.
[17:34] <lowtax>  /var/www isnt usually the http root
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> mregg964: How do you expect to use these keys?
[17:34] <lowtax>  /var/www/htdocs usually is the http root
[17:35] <mregg964> jhutchins_wk: I need the keys to rsync folders from a svn machine
[17:35] <varunendra> mmiller13, which wireless chip and driver are you using? Please show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[17:35] <codenomics> ok Ubuntu Server 13.10 booting from thumbdrive or burned disk I get the menu and select install then it continues on and I get a purple screen with some visual artifacts and that is it
[17:35] <bunduru> as i said not not all of them just the ones i installed manually
[17:36] <codenomics> downloading 12 now just to have a secondary test media
[17:38] <bunduru> any ideas?
[17:40] <mmiller13> maxmiller@maxmiller-HP-ENVY-m6-Sleekbook:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[17:40] <mmiller13> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 0c)
[17:40] <mmiller13> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:1995]
[17:40] <mmiller13> 	Kernel driver in use: r8169
[17:40] <mmiller13> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290]
[17:40] <mmiller13> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:18ec]
[17:40] <FloodBot1> mmiller13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:40] <mmiller13> 	Kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
[17:41] <Cpt-Cupcake> Rory: Thanks mate for all the help, everything is working now! :)
[17:41] <reek007> I did a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:41] <reek007> and my firefox isnt working anymore
[17:41] <reek007> can anyone help?
[17:42] <reek007> im on 12.04
[17:44] <mmiller13> http://pastebin.com/J8yFnvxB
[17:45] <blurkis> hi there.  installing ubuntu 13.10 to a friends laptop, and it worked like a charm. Could use wifi on installation, but when I booted into ubuntu, it can see the wifi networks, but can not connect. its an asus g75v, using ath9k driver. any idées on what could be the issue?
[17:46] <varunendra> mmiller13 please follow the instructions in this post and give us pastebin link to its report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 (and include the nick of the user in your chat messages who your messages are directed to, in this case, me)
[17:47] <Wobbo> How to open the "desktop sharing" in 13.10? I can't find it...
[17:48] <bn`> I have a problem with a mysql installation on a vserver. The "root" mysql user is missing. I tried to fix it with mysql_install_db, but without success. So, when I start mysqld with --skip-grant-tables I can login, but can not use GRANT ALL -> ERROR 1290 (HY000): The MySQL server is running with the --skip-grant-tables option so it cannot execute this statement
[17:51] <chamunks> I'm looking to install gitlab on a server would it be insane to think that I could use this unofficial unsigned repo built for debian squeeze https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlab-public-wiki/wiki/GitLab-Debian-packages-%28unofficial%29
[17:52] <Pici> chamunks: probably.  I installed it from source here and while there were a few hiccups, it went pretty well.  Plus updating by just pulling down via git is pretty easy.
[17:53] <chamunks> Pici, would you mind possibly pasting the guide or information you used?
[17:53] <chamunks> I'm a pretty novice dev I just don't want to submit my learning to code to github publically.
[17:53] <Pici> chamunks: I just followed this: https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/blob/master/doc/install/installation.md
[17:54] <Pici> chamunks: It looks complicated, but for the most part you are just copying and pasting commands.
[17:54] <mmiller13> Does anyone know if it's possible to recover data after a format and a architecture change. I recently installed Ubuntu on a x64 8gig NTSF partition which got formatted. Now all it shows is a just one 750gig partition Ext4.
[17:54] <jhutchins_wk> varunendra: So you need to figure out why it can't connect.  Are you choosing the correct encryption?  Is the format of the key not working?  What authorization/encryption are you using?
[17:54] <chamunks> what hiccups did you encounter?  I've got a VPS from some hosting company that sells el-cheapo vps's for dirt cheap one time prices (For now)
[17:54] <codenomics> sp is there a server based chan or does this channel cover server installs?
[17:54] <chamunks> I wanted to stick this on that with ubuntu 12.04 lts
[17:54] <chamunks> Pici, fair enough.
[17:55] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: Generally no, if you've overwritten the data it can't be easily recovered.  How did an 8G partition become a 750g partition?
[17:55] <varunendra> jhutchins_wk, not me, it's mmiller13 :) Thanks for jumping in though, I may be getting offline shortly..
[17:55] <Pici> chamunks: Nothing serious, I think I skipped a step or two and got confused.  This was on a 12.04 server as well.
[17:56] <chamunks> Pici, ok fair enough I'll spin up a linked clone of my 12.04 instance in virtualbox.
[17:56] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, I seem to be mixing up nics here.
[17:56] <chamunks> and try to remember how to fix that silly mac problem.
[17:57] <mmiller13> On Ubuntu installation the 8gig partition which was for Ubuntu got formatted; I guess the partition table got broken. Now all it shows is the entire hd which is 750gig
[17:58] <dayron> buona sera, conoscete dei programmi utili per programma in php?
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> !it | dayron
[17:58] <aloiece> hello, I'm trying to connect to my webserver through nautilus, so I have my files from the webserver represented innautilus and every change/save i make is immediately represented on the web. When I try to connect though, it tells me: not a webdav enabled share. I know this problem has occured with others, is there a fix for it>
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> dayron: try the ##programming channel
[17:59] <mmiller13> I'm guessing that's the case because I had half of the hard drive full of data. I selected the 8gig partition on Ubuntu installation, but ended up with just one partition
[17:59] <jhutchins_wk> aloiece: Why not use ssh/scp to copy the files?
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: So before messing with partitions and installing ubuntu you made a backup, right?
[18:00] <BluesKaj> mmiller13. did you use guided, auto or manual mode when partitioning
[18:00] <jhutchins_wk> BluesKaj: I suspect he use "oops".
[18:01] <aloiece> hm, well, probably because I don't know what either of those mean =D Sorry, I know the things that I know and beyond that, zero.
[18:01] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_wk. looks like it :/
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> aloiece: does the web server have an SSH server running on it too?
[18:01] <mmiller13> That was the backup
[18:02] <aloiece> how do I know
[18:02] <aloiece> ?
[18:02] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: Although it's possible to view a filesystem on a web server in a file browser, it's not simple, and being able to manipulate the files is harder.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> aloiece: can you conect to it via ssh?
[18:02] <mmiller13> I transferred data form my external hd on to the laptop, but there were new data added and I still would like to be able to restore it.
[18:02] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: Good grief, I can't get nicks right today.
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> mmiller13: if it is the backup then recreate the data set using the standing data (rerun the backup)
[18:03] <aloiece> yes
[18:03] <aloiece> there's an option for xsh
[18:03] <aloiece> I have to make akey
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> aloiece: then you cna use sshfs in nautilus (effectively sftp)
[18:03] <mmiller13> I used windows built-in management program
[18:03] <jhutchins_wk> aloiece: ssh is Secure SHell, it allows you to use have a console connection to the webserver.
[18:03] <aloiece> I see
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> aloiece: this is also secure, so can be done from anywhere. Good times :)
[18:04] <jhutchins_wk> aloiece: Once you have it working, you can use scp - Secure CP - to copy files back and forth from the server.
[18:04] <aloiece> do I have to copy the files always? or will I be working directly on the files on the server?
[18:04] <jhutchins_wk> mmiller13: If you have formatted the drive and written data to it (installed ubuntu), you are not going to recover the files.
[18:05] <Anuska> use anyone tune2fs?
[18:07] <genii> Anuska: What issue with tune2fs are you experiencing?
[18:07] <mmiller13> I took a computer forensic course two years ago, and they mentioned a way to search the hd using dd for ambient data. I was thinking it's the same process but it has to be converted back to NTSF.
[18:07] <mmiller13> dunno
[18:08] <jhutchins_wk> aloiece: It's a lot easier to learn to use the console utilities than to set up a network share to access the files.
[18:08] <bunduru> so anybody has any clue why the new window managers i've installed freeze after some seconds of log in?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> aloiece: the files you see on the sftp server will be live, you can copy over (if your account has permissions) as if it were a local storage
[18:08] <fishduck> how can I just strip of the last byte of a file, or what editor will not add a \n in the last line?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> aloiece: but the data goes over the network to the server
[18:08] <jhutchins_wk> You can edit the files with a console-based editor, or you can edit them locally then upload them.
[18:08] <jhutchins_wk> aloiece: You can edit the files with a console-based editor, or you can edit them locally then upload them.
[18:09] <jhutchins_wk> fishduck: vi
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> fishduck: use tee
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> fishduck: echo "something" | tee -a filename
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> fishduck: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/31947/how-to-add-a-newline-to-the-end-of-a-file
[18:11] <fishduck> lol, I want to remove the last line, or prevent it from being added
[18:11] <fishduck> vi is impossible to use. Why on earth would a text editor look like that.
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> fishduck: oh,let me play a while
[18:12] <daftykins> fishduck: it's editing for masochists!
[18:12] <ethan__> exit
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> vi has its own fanclubs and -blogs
[18:14] <fishduck> vi is inferior in every way.. the only thing that's "good" with it is whatever additional functions it adds (with a usability cost) to an old vacuum computer. But anything newer than that surpasses vi.
[18:14] <aloiece> ok thanks! =)
[18:15] <Trudko> guys if I often access to certain folder  form terminal should I create symlink for it or is there other way? I would like to access to independent from my actual location
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> fishduck:  cat file | sed \$d
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> fishduck: waste of a cat, but meh
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: sure, make a symlink wherever you please
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: just not in /dev or /proc :)
[18:21] <genii> fishduck: Alternately make an alias for a shell command that has the full path of the directory you're always using, so no matter your current working directory it always operates correctly
[18:22] <mati12312> hello
[18:27] <BillGates_313> What distro should I try?
[18:27] <mathfreak_> if I bought a Playstation 2 controller port to USB adapter, would Ubuntu have the proper drivers for the adapter?
[18:27] <genii> BillGates_313: Whichever ones you want.
[18:28] <BillGates_313> Thanks Genii.
[18:28]  * BillGates_313 heads to Distrowatch.com
[18:29] <bazhang> mathfreak_, for playing emulated games with? sure
[18:29] <mathfreak_> bazhang: Excellent. That's all I'll need. Thanks!
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: tinycore :)
[18:30] <BillGates_313> Is that smaller than Puppy?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: 12Mb, yes
[18:31] <BillGates_313> Enjoy Slitaz for small time.
[18:31] <BillGates_313> Read, I enjoy.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: used it, not bad
[18:32] <BillGates_313> One day I'll get to Paris.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: if you want a tiny ubuntu install, install minimal ubuntu then install slim and openbox
[18:32] <ghostnik11> i need a libxul to install kiwix on my ubuntu but its not in synaptic how can i get it
[18:32] <L0RE> Someone here who know xfs and lvm very good?
[18:32] <BillGates_313> I run linux exclusivly from my pendrive.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> !info libxul
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> !find libxul
[18:32] <genii> BillGates_313: If you're interested in minimal/small distributions, I go with ActionParsnip on the tinycore linux
[18:33] <BillGates_313> I need a distro with everything in for a live environment.
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[18:33] <BillGates_313> If tinycore supported my 1080p and wireless drivers I would.
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: what wifi chip do you use?
[18:34] <ghostnik11> ActionParsnip, ckage libxul was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[18:34] <ghostnik11> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libxul.pc'
[18:34] <ghostnik11> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[18:34] <ghostnik11> No package 'libxul' found
[18:34] <ghostnik11> Package libxul was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[18:34] <ghostnik11> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libxul.pc'
[18:34] <FloodBot1> ghostnik11: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <BillGates_313> Dell Latitude E6400 is my laptop.
[18:34] <BillGates_313> Intel wireless I think.
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    you will be showm
[18:34] <BillGates_313> I've been running Peppermint with decent results.
[18:34] <BillGates_313> I'm on Windows right now.
[18:35] <BillGates_313> My hard drive is Windows and my pendrive is linux.
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: doesnt answer my question
[18:35] <BillGates_313> DOS doesn't support sudo commands.
[18:35] <BillGates_313> =p
[18:35] <L0RE> mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb , mount /dev/sdb /mnt ;... Using ; umount /mnt; pvcreate /dev/sdb; vgcreate volume /dev/sdb, lvcreate -n name datavg -l SIZE;  lvremove, vgremove,pvcremove....... is there waway to still recover the xfs
[18:35] <BillGates_313> I'm on Microsft Windows 7 right now.
[18:35] <genii> ActionParsnip: Since he's not currently in *nix, he can hardly run the command :)
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> genii: can in peppermint :)
[18:36] <BillGates_313> Peppermint is nice.
[18:36] <ghostnik11> libxul is it in ubuntu
[18:37] <ghostnik11> i don't have internet connection for long
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: what is the output of the command I gave please
[18:37] <MrSassyPants> since a few days ago, nfs partitions are no longer loaded early enough, what changed and how can I fix it?
[18:38] <nullsign> heh, neat.. www.cloudatcost.com
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: make it not automount, then add a command in /edtc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line to mount it then
[18:38] <MrSassyPants> ActionParsnip, at what time does it load it then?
[18:38] <BillGates_313> I'm in the running for Orcle Linux but they haven't emailed me yet.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: sounds like it fails as the network isnt up when fstab is processed
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: then run the command in a Linux based Os and report the result
[18:39] <MrSassyPants> ActionParsnip, network is up, nfs is mounted, just not early enough
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: then you may need a delay so that the boot waits for the nfs to come up
[18:39] <MrSassyPants> ActionParsnip, I need nfs up and running before X
[18:39] <chamunks> Pici, they have this sneaky little line in Step 1 in that gitlab install that references something down in Step 6...
[18:39] <MrSassyPants> and that does not happen
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: then put a small pause in /etc/rc.local and it will make X not load for the duration you set
[18:40] <chamunks> Pici, I can see why you'd miss something there.  The documentation is a bit fuzzy.  But only a bit.
[18:40] <ghostnik11> ActionParsnip, here is the output: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[18:40] <BillGates_313> ActionParsnip I'll make a note of the command and get back to you when exectued under Linux.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: MrSassyPants add the comamnd:   sleep 10  to give 10 seconds before X loads
[18:42] <MrSassyPants> ActionParsnip, and makes the boot up take 10 seconds longer.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: I'm not finding the package anywhere
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: yes
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: how many times do you reboot?
[18:43] <MrSassyPants> multiple times a day, I have wintendo on another partition
[18:43] <mregg964> Hi - I need a little help here, as I cannot delete a file, even as root.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: might need to take the hit if it makes it work. 10 seconds is nothing
[18:44] <daftykins> mregg964: which file?
[18:45] <mregg964> daftykins: well it's a funky file: /var/www/.ssh
[18:45] <mregg964> daftykins: it has the following lsattr : -u---a-----------e-
[18:45] <daftykins> mregg964: looks like a dot folder, rather than a file?
[18:45] <ghostnik11> ActionParsnip, so what do i do need wikipedia offline for research at school, and kiwix is the only thing i know that can do it
[18:45] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all!
[18:45] <MrSassyPants> Is there a successor to chkconfig ?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: are there any bugs reported? Have you tried contacting the developers?
[18:46] <JokesOnYou77> I'm trying to write a regex match only periods preceded by lowercase alphas, but not the alpha itself.  How do I not also catch the alpha?
[18:46] <nullsign> MrSassy: chkconfig is redhat...
[18:46] <daftykins> mregg964: so switching to root temporarily with "sudo -s" followed by "rm -rf /var/www/.ssh" doesn't work?
[18:46] <mregg964> daftykins: I agree, but it's a file, it doesn't have the 'd' on ls -l
[18:46] <MrSassyPants> nullsign, it's in the ubuntu man pages
[18:46] <MrSassyPants> nullsign, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/chkconfig.8.html
[18:46] <ghostnik11> ActionParsnip, i don't have access to internet like that
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: whta, email?
[18:46] <nullsign> ubuntu uses update-rc.d now i think
[18:47] <mregg964> daftykins: no, Operation not permitted
[18:47] <un_belge> hello guys
[18:47] <Pici> MrSassyPants: Just because theres a package for it doesn't mean that Ubuntu's config is compatible with it. e.g, rpm is in the repos, but we don't use it.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: egrep '\.[a-z]' file     maybe
[18:47] <BillGates_313> Downloading Linux Mint 16 "Petra" - Cinnamon RC (32-bit)
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> BillGates_313: remember, Mint is not supported here
[18:47] <BillGates_313> k
[18:47] <mregg964> daftykins: I was thinking there was a chattr command I could do?
[18:48] <un_belge> i have to install microsoft framwork 4.0 but wine says he is already installed or a highter,... :/
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> JokesOnYou77: seems to work well
[18:48] <ghostnik11> ActionParsnip, nope, i have squirel mail
[18:48] <daftykins> mregg964: 'chattr' ?
[18:48] <daftykins> i don't know what that is
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: its still email, and you can still email the developers, can't you?
[18:49] <JokesOnYou77> Thank you!
[18:49] <cortexman> what's the linux equivalent of the mac Router in TCP/IP settings for manually setting up an ip address?
[18:49] <un_belge> and the programm wat i want to install say i need framwework 4.0
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> un_belge: use network manager
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: use network manager
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> un_belge: sorry, wrong target
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> un_belge: ask in #winehq too
[18:50] <un_belge> ok thanks
[18:50] <cortexman> i am using network manager.. what abt my question?
[18:50] <daftykins> un_belge: you're highly unlikely to get something needing .NET 4 working under Linux
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: then use that to set the interface to a static IP
[18:51] <cortexman> yeah i know..
[18:51] <cortexman> what abt my question?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: isnt that your question?
[18:51] <cortexman> mac has a Router field
[18:51] <cortexman> w/ an ip address..
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: do you mean the default gateway?
[18:51] <cortexman> yeah i'm not sure
[18:51] <cortexman> if they are the same..
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: is it the IP address used to get internet from
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> I HATE how Apple rename stuff different to everyone else
[18:52] <cortexman> but network manager also has a Routes "tab"
[18:52] <reisio> iMAC
[18:53] <cortexman> these Routes have Address Netmask Gateway and Metric fields
[18:53] <cortexman> sup with that?
[18:53] <vipul_> http://pastebin.com/yGCyAAzY  what this error mean? and how i can correct this issue.
[18:53] <cortexman> vipul use sudo to run it apparently
[18:54] <cortexman> sudo make install
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: oh you want to set manual routes to your system's routing table
[18:54] <cortexman> i honestly don't know what i want to do. there is one missing field as compared to the way i've got this mac setup
[18:54] <cortexman> Router
[18:54] <cortexman> is it a Gateway, or is it a Route? haha
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: can you give a screenshot, use imagemagick to host
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> I wish Mac would call stuff the defacto name
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> so annoying
[18:55] <vipul_> cortexman,  Thank you
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Does anyone with a mac know what this is all about
[18:55] <BillGates_313> I hate Apple.
[18:56] <ikonia> BillGates_313: not really something we care about, please try to stick to ubuntu dicussion
[18:56] <cortexman> ActionParsnip: http://i.imgur.com/An3Rz1J.png
[18:57] <daftykins> "Router" == Default Gateway
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: thats the default gateway, this is obviously too technical for Aple brains so they call it the router address
[18:58] <dv> call it the iPortal
[18:58] <cortexman> tx!
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: this is part of network manager, you set the IP, DNS servers and the default gateway all in the same interface
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> cortexman: http://petejcullen.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/net_man.png   see the 'gateway' bit, that is your 'router' address
[19:00] <helpme_-_-_> fdisk: unable to read /dev/sda: Input/output error
[19:00] <helpme_-_-_> __
[19:01] <helpme_-_-_> ???
[19:01] <BluesKaj> helpme_-_-_. fdisk -l
[19:01] <ikonia> "sudo"
[19:01] <helpme_-_-_> ok
[19:01] <helpme_-_-_> im in root
[19:01] <helpme_-_-_> wait
[19:01] <helpme_-_-_> for it
[19:01] <Pici> helpme_-_-_: stop pressing enter between every thought.
[19:01] <ikonia> helpme_-_-_: you shouldn't be root - the ubuntu install locks the root account
[19:02] <helpme_-_-_> i have to write sudo every time?
[19:02] <Cpt-Cupcake> I am trying to install Ghost on Ubuntu, on a subdomain to be specific, and it works with the regular 2368 port, but how do I reconfigure it with Apache to run on port 80?
[19:03] <helpme_-_-_> root@ubuntu:~# fdisk -l
[19:03] <helpme_-_-_> Disk /dev/sdb: 8004 MB, 8004304896 bytes
[19:03] <helpme_-_-_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 973 cylinders, total 15633408 sectors
[19:03] <helpme_-_-_> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[19:03] <helpme_-_-_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:03] <helpme_-_-_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:03] <FloodBot1> helpme_-_-_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <DJones> yep
[19:03] <DJones> grr, wrong window
[19:05] <helpme_-_-_> fdisk -l doesnt see the /dev/sda
[19:05] <helpme_-_-_> Disk /dev/sdb: 8004 MB, 8004304896 bytes
[19:05] <helpme_-_-_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 973 cylinders, total 15633408 sectors
[19:05] <helpme_-_-_> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[19:05] <helpme_-_-_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:05] <FloodBot1> helpme_-_-_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <helpme_-_-_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:05] <helpme_-_-_> Disk identifier: 0x58d13cc9
[19:05] <k1l_> helpme_-_-_: stop it!
[19:05] <k1l_> !paste | helpme_-_-_
[19:05] <ThisIsAfasf> Hi there! Just testing my IRC client. If someone could test to respond to me that would be great!
[19:05] <xeon827> the ubuntu iso is 708 mb i only have 700 mb on the disc is that a big problem?
[19:05] <cortexman> so what is the Routes tab for in network manager?
[19:05] <xeon827> do i have to do anything or will the burner do it?
[19:05] <cortexman> if Router == Gateway, what are Routes?
[19:05] <k1l_> helpme_-_-_: stop putting that much text in here. use a pastebin like the bot told you now 3 times
[19:06] <ObrienDave> xeon827, you must burn to a DVD
[19:06] <helpme_-_-_> i saw just
[19:06] <xeon827> can't use a cd?
[19:06] <ThisIsAfasf> Anyone?
[19:06] <ikonia> xeon827: think about it, your CD is 700mb, the image is bigger than 700mb, do you think it will work ?
[19:06] <xeon827> could compress it
[19:06] <xangua> xeon827: use a dvd or a usb stick
[19:06] <ikonia> xeon827: no, you can't compress it
[19:06] <ObrienDave> xeon827, no, probably wont fit on a normal CD
[19:08] <xeon827> it's just 8 mb over
[19:08] <ikonia> xeon827: it's still over
[19:08] <helpme_-_-_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6449715/
[19:08] <ikonia> xeon827: you have 700mb of space, it wants 708...
[19:08] <ikonia> helpme_-_-_: 1. ) you should not be root 2.) you where asked to do fdisk, not sdfidk
[19:08] <cortexman> also, what is the network manager equivalent of the mac "Using DHCP with manual address" ?
[19:09] <daftykins> cortexman: a route is a first IP to send to in order to find another network. A router is a default route because if your computer doesn't know how to find something (e.g. it's not on the local network) it should send every request to that IP.
[19:10] <needhelp54> ikonia: i m not root right now what you prefer?
[19:10] <ikonia> needhelp54: you are root - in the pastebin you are root
[19:10] <xeon827> then how do these noobs on pirate bay compress 6gb movies and games to 1gb
[19:11] <needhelp54> I lost my win7 while tryin install Ubuntu 13.10 with Bootable USB
[19:11] <needhelp54> I cant install anything right now
[19:11] <ikonia> xeon827: it's not the same thing, stop trying to "beat it" and just accept it
[19:11] <ikonia> xeon827: and calling someone a "noob" while you're asking how to make a 708mb image fit on a 700mb.....well, pot calling the kettle
[19:11] <ObrienDave> because YOU are burning an EXACT duplicate of the file image. it will NOT fit on a CD
[19:12] <xeon827> bull
[19:12] <ObrienDave> whatEVER
[19:12] <xeon827> how do they do it then
[19:12] <ikonia> xeon827: it's not "bull" - it's a fact you are being trying to avoid and refuse to accept, so I suggest you stop asking
[19:12] <needhelp54> I can just use the Ubuntu 13.10 Live mod. I used the `dd of=/dev/zero if=/dev/sda bs=1M`
[19:12] <xeon827> u mad?
[19:12] <xeon827> kuz i'm right?
[19:12] <ikonia> xeon827: enoug
[19:12] <ikonia> enough
[19:13] <ikonia> xeon827: this is an ubuntu support channel, you've been told how to use the ubuntu ISO image
[19:14] <needhelp54> ikonia: What you say to me ?
[19:14] <ikonia> needhelp54: nothing
[19:14] <vlad_sta_> Question: Having Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS. MD RAID 1. After reboot got this in syslog: "md1: detected capacity change from 0 to 999069384704" and "md1: unknown partition table". It waited awhile and then booted successfully. Is it a bug or anything I should worry about? Thnx.
[19:14] <needhelp54> ikonia: Cant you help me?
[19:14] <ikonia> needhelp54: I don't actually understand what you are saying as you are all over the place with information
[19:14] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: sounds like you might have had a bad sector on one disk - use SMART disk utilities to confirm, one disk might be on the way out
[19:15] <needhelp54> Gparted dont see my /dev/sda
[19:15] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: what attributes should I check on SMART?
[19:15] <k1l_> needhelp54: what about a "sudo fdisk -l" in a pastebin?
[19:15] <needhelp54> I get input output error. Tried to mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda i get read write error 0 sector
[19:16] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: reallocated sectors, pending sectors, should be pretty obvious
[19:16] <k1l_> dont do that on a harddrive. make a proper partition table and make partitions first
[19:16] <Cpt-Cupc_> Does anyone know how to change the port from 2368 to 80 with VirtualHost? I am trying to get Ghost running on a subdomain, but I can't get it to run on port 80
[19:16] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: everything looks fine but on one disk Spin_Up_Time is 3525 which is "Pre-fail"-type attribute.
[19:17] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: can you up some screenshots of each disk?
[19:17] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: not sure that I understand this subject so deep
[19:17] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: sure, sec
[19:17] <needhelp54> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6449743/
[19:18] <k1l_> needhelp54: can you pastbin a "dmesg" too?
[19:18] <Cpt-Cupc_> Anyone?
[19:19] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: sda – http://pastebin.com/z8wDpGLj and sdb – http://pastebin.com/cUHrw3gH
[19:19] <Pici> needhelp54: Can you see your other drive in your BIOS?
[19:20] <Ziber> I've decided I wanted to learn how to use LDAP, my end-goal being SSH authentication using it. Where would be a good place to start?
[19:20] <needhelp54> k1_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6449755/
[19:20] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: is it possible that power supply is about to fail?
[19:21] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: ah they're REs, that's good. i wouldn't normally see that value looking iffy - is it RAID 1 you use?
[19:21] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: yepp
[19:21] <PDilyard> thunderbird mail wont start for me. it happened randomly a few days ago, and i did not change any settings or install anything that i can remember. It hasnt started in about a week. i tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but no luck. sometimes it comes up with a message something like this: "Failed to download packages" but its not every time
[19:21] <k1l_> needhelp54: that looks to me like a broken hdd
[19:22] <Pici> Cpt-Cupc_: What have you tried? Did it give you an error?
[19:22] <needhelp54> May be deleted MBR ?
[19:22] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: if i were you, i'd probably backup your data anyway, then use WD's diagnostics software to get an opinion on that sda - see if it flags up anything iffy. they offer a bootable ISO download for their software i believe
[19:22] <BluesKaj> PDilyard. try opening it in the terminal , and pastebin the output /errors if any
[19:22] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: I just found the similar as a kernel bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1105900
[19:23] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: you can get it to do a short SMART test which takes a couple of minutes and reports if it finds the values worrying
[19:23] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: but I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.5.0-23-generic i686)
[19:23] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: Thanks for replying! I tried adding a file on /etc/apache2/sites-available with the following content:
[19:23] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: https://gist.github.com/ricardomuniz/03223682077b95503c64
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> needhelp54, Any history on this HD?
[19:24] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: could you show me appropriate command example
[19:24] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: Unfortunately it does nothing, so then i read that nginx would be helpful, but whenever I use it, I get a bad gateway error
[19:24] <PDilyard> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6449768/   "sudo thunderbird"  worked though
[19:24] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: sorry i meant this for the WD software download program, it'll all be a sort of DOS graphical interface
[19:24] <Pici> Cpt-Cupc_: Did you actually enable the site? using sudo a2ensite
[19:25] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: Yes, done that as well
[19:25] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: It works with the port 2368, but not 80
[19:25] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: this server is in production at the moment
[19:25] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: ah - can't afford any downtime?
[19:26] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: am I right understood you that it requires physical access to the server? (boot from USB with WD program)
[19:26] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: yes, although there may be some variants hang on i'll look at the WD site
[19:26] <needhelp54> wilee-nilee: what do you mean?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> PDilyard. use kdesudo for GUI apps launched from the terminal
[19:27] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: thank you for your help
[19:27] <DeanL> Hello, i've installed a Ubuntu server 12.04 with the openSSH server inside an office network. I've setup port forwarding on the router but when i ask a colleague to connect from outside we get a "connection refused". Any hints? I can log from the local netwrok just fine
[19:27] <Pici> Cpt-Cupc_: Wait, so you want to keep your site running, but just add the ghost subdomain?
[19:27] <PDilyard> BluesKaj: why did the launcher stop starting it randomly?
[19:27] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: ah, Windows and DOS utilities :( http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=616&lang=en
[19:27] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: I have WordPress installed on mysite.com , but I want to run ghost on a subdomain, so ghost.mysite.com
[19:28] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: Everything runs on 80, but I can't change the config.js of ghost to 80
[19:28] <ixio> !ot
[19:29] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: OK I see.
[19:29] <needhelp54> Pici: bios hard drive test is 1-#07 failed sth like that
[19:29] <BluesKaj> PDilyard. could be some missing gnome libs , update and upgrade to try to fix it
[19:30] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: you could ask on askubuntu.com or ubuntu forums for someone more knowledgable, or perhaps contact WD about that spinup parameter being so high. i'd definitely look into it as much as you can though
[19:30] <PDilyard> BluesKaj: ok thanks
[19:30] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: thinking about to switch to KVM hypervisor, so I can transfer active virtual server to another physical machine
[19:30] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: sounds good :)
[19:31] <Pici> Cpt-Cupc_: Does ghost have its own thing that you need to reverse proxy into? or can you just expose /var/www/ghost ?
[19:31] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: I'm newbie to virtualisation. Reading ESXi book to get started:)
[19:32] <needhelp54> what is mean of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6449810/
[19:32] <Cpt-Cupc_> pici: Could you reword a bit please?
[19:33] <Rory> Pici: He only wants ghost.domain.com to go to /var/www/ghost
[19:34] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: I kinda got it working : http://ghost.kotarodesign.com ... now I have a problem with the directories
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> needhelp54, History like its old its new its had problems before IE anything leading to not being see. That you may have checked it plugin by replugging, correlation besides gparted does not see it.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> seen*
[19:35] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici: Basically ghost.site.com links to /var/www/ghost , but I get a weird error here: http://ghost.kotarodesign.com/assets
[19:35] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: one more question. On welcome screen I see that there is "101 packages can be updated" and "51 updates are security updates". Is it safe just to make "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[19:35] <Pici> Cpt-Cupc_: did you just do something like https://gist.github.com/bnrubin/97d7b04f822d542d7970 ?
[19:35] <Rory> btw Cpt-Cupc_ In your proxy you're missing a forward-slash (/) somewhere, look at the "reason" on this page http://ghost.kotarodesign.com/welcome-to-ghost/
[19:36] <Pici> Cpt-Cupc_: right, with an extra slash at the end past the port #
[19:36] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: I mean how I make sure, that this system update won't break something and system will not boot anymore?
[19:36] <needhelp54> wilee-nilee: I tried it. Doesnt work.
[19:36] <ObrienDave> needhelp54, it probably means your HD is very old and slow and probably nearing the end of it's life
[19:37] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: hmm well you can't guarantee it won't, but it's unlikely. i prefer dist-upgrade personally
[19:37] <Cpt-Cupc_> https://gist.github.com/ricardomuniz/50bb53ca3f73b5843dd7 I turned off npm right quickly and here is a link to how I have /etc/apache2/sites-available/ghost.kotarodesign.com.conf
[19:38]  * npm wonders if there's a way of turning off notifications on a per-channel basis :-)
[19:38] <Pici> Cpt-Cupc_: you need a slash at the end of http://ghost.kotarodesign.com:2368
[19:38] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: what the difference?
[19:38] <Rory> npm: In what client?
[19:38] <npm> pidgin
[19:38] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: updates everything possible to the latest versions
[19:38] <npm> just because everytime people mention 'npm' in a linux related channel, i think they're talking about me :-)
[19:38] <tmg1|ohmbase> what needs to be installed to get System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers?
[19:39] <tmg1|ohmbase> doesn't seem to be showing up in unity
[19:39] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: OK
[19:39] <Rory> npm: /join #pidgin
[19:39] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: thanks for helping
[19:39] <Cpt-Cupc_> Pici Rory : Thanks for the help! It works entirely now :D!
[19:39] <Rory> tmg1|ohmbase: It is already installed as a tab in Software Sources
[19:39] <npm> thanks Rory.
[19:39] <Rory> Stealing your stylesheet Cpt-Cupc_
[19:40] <daftykins> vlad_sta_: no problem :) let me know how the HDD thing goes
[19:40] <Cpt-Cupc_> Rory What?...
[19:40] <vlad_sta_> daftykins: yepp)
[19:41] <Rory> Cpt-Cupc_: I'm just saying, I like the stylesheet, especially the code boxe
[19:41] <tmg1|ohmbase> ok
[19:41] <tmg1|ohmbase> thanks
[19:42] <xkernel> how to burn cdr file?
[19:43] <xangua> xkernel: select burn as image
[19:43] <Cpt-Cupc_> Rory: I actually didn't code it
[19:44] <Cpt-Cupc_> Rory: Do you know any books on Ubuntu and subjects like these? :-/
[19:46] <xkernel> xangua, the cdr file can't be selected as image
[19:47] <justaguy> i'm installing ubuntu on a hp envy m6 laptop of my friend, the HDD of it crashed and that's why i'm installing ubuntu now on the new hdd, but "the grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into /target/" is all i  get, anyone knows howto
[19:47] <xangua> don't know what a cdr file is xkernel if it's a file burn it as file
[19:47] <daftykins> justaguy: which version are you installing?
[19:48] <justaguy> 12.04
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, HD or W8 crashed?
[19:48] <daftykins> justaguy: is it a 12.04.3 64-bit image you downloaded?
[19:48] <justaguy> daftykins: yes
[19:48] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: the HDD crashed and got replaced (by me ofcourse)
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, Ah I see that my mistake.
[19:49] <daftykins> justaguy: have you seen - http://askubuntu.com/questions/260297/12-04-2-failed-to-install-grub-efi-to-target
[19:49] <justaguy> Well it's sad i can't get ubuntu on it because that stupid uefi
[19:50] <Rory> justaguy: Is there an option in the BIOS to disable Secure Boot?
[19:51] <justaguy> Rory: aha thanks, just disabled secure boot ^^, lets see if it works
[19:51] <justaguy> legacy support: disabled, secure boot: disabled
[19:51] <Rory> justaguy: It will work; disabling secure-boot prior to installation is by far the easiest way to get ubuntu on there
[19:51] <justaguy> are this the right ones?
[19:52] <Rory> Yes although legacy mode won't change anything. It's secure boot not UEFI itsself
[19:52] <Rory> (that causes the problem)
[19:52] <justaguy> time to test the install :D
[19:54] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi. Is there a quick orientation guide with lots of pictures, for Ubuntu? I want to give something like that to someone, so they can quickly figure out how to install packages and browse files.
[19:54] <xangua> !manual | Eduard_Munteanu
[19:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> xangua: thanks, I was looking at that earlier. Any chance there's something more concise, something I could link at for particular things they're supposed to know?
[19:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> Because I figure a few screenshots would help a lot.
[19:56] <xangua> 'Help' is incluided in default install Eduard_Munteanu
[19:56] <reisio> Eduard_Munteanu: make a screencast
[19:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> xangua: cool, any chance I can take a look at it if I don't have an Ubuntu handy?
[19:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> The actual issue I'm trying to solve is they complained they couldn't play videos. Likely they didn't know how to open a file manager and navigate to the files.
[19:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> The reason was a bit funny "I don't see a player, and I can't install one because I can't open downloaded archives". :)
[19:59] <Trudko> guys if I often access to certain folder  form terminal should I create symlink for it or is there other way? I would like to access to independent from my current directory
[19:59] <Trudko> and symlink aren't really global afaik
[20:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> Trudko: you can make a bash alias
[20:00] <daftykins> ^
[20:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> Trudko: e.g. alias gofoo="cd $HOME/bar/baz/foo"
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, Good to see you here. ;)
[20:01] <Eduard_Munteanu> Trudko: or put the path in a variable and use it
[20:01] <Trudko> yeah sure alias goo idea.
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> Trudko  you can do that with popd / pushd
[20:01] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: was that due to my amazing +1 use of "^" right there? :D
[20:01] <Trudko> basicly i use git throught command line so i often access my dev folder
[20:02] <justaguy> i hate it when people are just randomly saying OMG YOU USE UBUNTU THAT SUCKS!!!!! why they don't know anything about it
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, quack, quack, yes
[20:02] <Trudko> justaguy, that is unviersal for us human,
[20:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> Trudko: do you know you can  cd ~/dev   without writing /home/trudko specifically?
[20:02] <justaguy> grr
[20:02] <justaguy> still the same error with that efi
[20:02] <justaguy> lemme repeat the question that i said here
[20:03] <justaguy> i'm installing ubuntu on a hp envy m6 laptop of my friend, the HDD of it crashed and that's why i'm installing ubuntu now on the new hdd, but "the grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into /target/" is all i  get, anyone knows howto
[20:03] <Trudko> Eduard_Munteanu, yes I do , but this only isn't helpful because my path is actually ~/development/workspaces/android/myproject
[20:03] <daftykins> justaguy: did you nuke the disk when you booted your install media this second time around?
[20:03] <justaguy> daftykins: i guess no, how to nuke it in the good way
[20:03] <arno_> Hi, I'm trying to install curlftpfs (on ubuntu 12.04), and I get the following warning error: "The following packages cannot be authenticated!". I'm a bit confused about that. Does anybody know why that might be ?
[20:04] <daftykins> justaguy: boot into live mode then delete any and all partitions with gparted
[20:05] <subev> guys whatever player I install on my ubuntu i see the subtitles with some fancy symbols, i need to display cyrilic characters, i searched the settings for the different players but to no avail. Do you have an idea which setting i need to change to display the character properly?
[20:06] <mkoks> hey, can someone tell me how can I get p11-kit-trust.so for i386 ?
[20:06] <justaguy> daftykins: did it, time for a install, wish me luck
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> Trudko  go to your/very/far/away/folder, then type 'pushd some/other/folder'... now you can use popd to return to the first ver/far/away/folder from wherever you are
[20:07] <daftykins> justaguy: gl - if it still fails, bear in mind that page i linked you to that said move to a newer version to fix UEFI issues - or enable legacy mode and install as non-UEFI instead
[20:09] <Trudko> MonkeyDust, thank you for suggestion. AFAIK this only work shorterm and I need something to use even after restart of pc
[20:09] <trism> Trudko: also remember you can tab complete those names, so it may only be a few keystrokes even for that long path
[20:10] <Kartagis> !find whois
[20:11] <Trudko> trism, yes luckily i do use that
[20:11] <Trudko> it seems that alias is the best way
[20:12] <Trudko> or because I need this to work with git, maybe git it self has something .
[20:17] <justaguy> daftykins: still same error, time for ubuntu 13.10
[20:17] <daftykins> justaguy: try legacy first if you cba to download
[20:17] <daftykins> !uefi
[20:17] <mkoks> repost: hey, can someone tell me how can I get p11-kit-trust.so for i386 ?
[20:17] <daftykins> justaguy: see the above link which shows the boot colour difference between legacy and UEFI booting
[20:18] <ring3> hi
[20:18] <mkoks> wine tells me that it cannot be found
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, Just curious has this new HD had gpt partitions yet, are you reinstall W8 on it?
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> reinstalling*
[20:18] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: no, just ubuntu, that's all
[20:18] <ring3> my dbus is rejecting the gdm
[20:18] <justaguy> daftykins: ok, so enable legacy and disable secure boot?
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, No gpt as of yet?
[20:18] <ring3> dbus rejected the message of gdm-simple-slave
[20:19] <ring3> and gdm doesn't work
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> find kit-trust.so | mkoks
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> !find kit-trust.so | mkoks
[20:19] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: gpt?
[20:19] <daftykins> justaguy: yep then make sure it boots in legacy style
[20:19] <BluesKaj> mkoks.make sure your "universe" repos are enabled
[20:19] <wafflejockTablet> !gpt
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, gpt partitioning is part of the uefi that was on the failed HD.
[20:20] <justaguy> daftykins: okidoki
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, If you do not know that's okay, it is just problematic if the partition table was set up for it and it was there on linux partition ext type install at times if the partition table was set as such, just checking.
[20:23] <mkoks> BluesKaj seems like they are enabled
[20:23] <cortexman> is this a valid Proxy Exceptions line? - it's copied from mac.  l*.local,169.254/16,10.0.0.0/8
[20:24] <mkoks> MonkeyDust I found that syn package manager has it in p11-kit but my problem is that I am running x86_64 and seems like wine needs i386 version of it and looks for it
[20:24] <mkoks> how can I get it then
[20:24] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: well lets hope it works now :s
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> mkoks  ah, wine, i missed that part
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, Yes, did you have to make a partition table on this new HD?
[20:26] <daftykins> justaguy: we'll worry about wilee-nilee's lovely habit of complicating matters later - if legacy doesn't work ;)
[20:26] <mkoks> however why wine would need to run p11 when executing game
[20:26] <mkoks> could it really be that critical?
[20:27] <geekmasterflash> Hello, I am a linux newbie and I have just installed Ubuntu 13.10 (using Gnome fallback, removed Unity) and I am having my system freeze up seemingly whenever the graphics card or soundcard are in heavy use. I built the machine to be a steam box, so that basically means I am getting system freezes every hour. I installed PSensor, and I am not over heating and memtest comes back clean...
[20:27] <geekmasterflash> Any help would be awesome
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> yeah a partition table is not an important detail in a uefi computer, lol
[20:28] <ghfsdagh> which pdf editor for ubuntu? advice please
[20:28] <jorman> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[20:28] <jorman> Version 3.7.86
[20:28] <jorman> By  U D A ' S o f t w a r e
[20:29] <geekmasterflash> @ghfsdagh - inkscape is decent.
[20:30] <ghfsdagh> i am looking for very simple, easy to use software to edit pdfs
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, removed unity?
[20:30] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee, Yes.
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, How?
[20:31] <geekmasterflash> I saw there was a unity freeze issue, so it was the first thing I removed via apt-get remove
[20:31] <mkoks> he drained unity blood and then killed it
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, unity is just a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3 which the fallback runs on top of.
[20:31] <ghfsdagh> which is the most popular pdf editor for ubuntu?
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> geekmasterflash  install another DE and switch to it was all you had to do
[20:32] <xangua> (14:29:58) geekmasterflash: @ghfsdagh - inkscape is decent.
[20:32] <lidon> lidon
[20:32] <ghfsdagh> is it easy to use?
[20:32] <vkr> hello all
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> ghfsdagh  depends on how skilled you are
[20:32] <ghfsdagh> no skills
[20:33] <geekmasterflash> wilnee-nilee Good to know, but do you think that it's the problem? From what I read on the bugzilla report the Unity freeze is due to a memory leak in the panel app
[20:33] <lidon> lidon
[20:33] <geekmasterflash> wilnee-nilee Assuming I am in gnome-fall back, I shouldn't be using unity panel?
[20:34] <ghfsdagh> will try, thanks
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, Hard to say, I would be interested to know what actually got removed with unity, as that is not a recommended path. Has the fallback ever run okay?
[20:34] <ghfsdagh> any other laternative to inkscape to edit pdfs ?
[20:34] <Calinou> geekmasterflash, what's your graphics card?
[20:34] <Calinou> lspci | grep VGA
[20:34] <geekmasterflash> wilnee-nilee Yeah, it was great for days
[20:34] <geekmasterflash> calinou Nvidia GTX660
[20:35] <Calinou> which driver version?
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, Have you used htop to see what is going on?
[20:35] <ghfsdagh> to know just in case
[20:35] <geekmasterflash> wilnee-nilee Forgive me, I am not too well versed with linux. htop, you say?
[20:35] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: YAY still error :s
[20:35] <Calinou> you can see driver version in nvidia-settings
[20:36] <Calinou> geekmasterflash, htop is a command line task manager. quite powerful and configurable
[20:36] <Calinou> it's like "top" but better
[20:36] <ghfsdagh> what are all the options available in ubuntu to edit pdfs ? (guess i will try all of them)
[20:36] <geekmasterflash> calinou: Using Nvidia-319
[20:36] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: time to do ubuntu 13.10
[20:36] <sobczyk> hi, is there any software to recognize a song from a short sample? (recorded with a phone)
[20:36] <Calinou> geekmasterflash, when exactly does it happen? on which games?
[20:37] <corduroy> there is soundhound, for the phone
[20:37] <ghfsdagh> wellwel
[20:37] <geekmasterflash> Calinou: every single one I have. Samurai Warriors 2 (WIne), PCSX2 (all games) Steam (all games, Dragon Commander (wine) Shadowrun (Native), Forced (Native)
[20:38] <sobczyk> I have only an n900 (linux) phone, so I wondered if there is a desktop one
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, I would use the ubuntu forums with this, many here act as if they know what to do in a uefi situation here but know very little, this is the last place one should get help on that.
[20:40] <geekmasterflash> It's also frozen while watching videos on firefox, listening to music on clementine, and using my webcam, but those are rare. It happens every time with a game
[20:40] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: well trying ubuntu 13.10 now, if that doesn't work, i give laptop back to friend and do it tommorow xd
[20:41] <geekmasterflash> Even old games, like Samurai Warriors 2 which have laughably low mem/processor requirements
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> !tab | geekmasterflash just so you know the easiest nick use that we actually see.
[20:42] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, No prob, gotta be spelled correctly to be notified.
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, Is this a dual graphic card set up?
[20:43] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Yes, nvidia twinview
[20:43] <moppy> twinview is single gpu , multiple monitor
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, Ah, not an area I know a lot about, however I have seen the use of bumblebee with it, you familiar in general with that?
[20:44] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Can't say I am, but nothing google can't teach me
[20:44] <moppy> geekmasterflash, do you actually have two gpu?
[20:44] <geekmasterflash> moppy: No, both are running on the same card.
[20:45] <moppy> geekmasterflash, your card. does it have 2 gpus on? actually easier: which card is it?
[20:45] <geekmasterflash> moppy: It's a Nvidia GTX660
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, Not sure if related get help from those that are sure here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[20:46] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Seems that this is for laptop cards?
[20:46] <moppy> optimus is for laptops with integrated gpu and a dedicated gpu
[20:46] <moppy> bumblebee is for optimus
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, That was my question dual graphic cards not monitors.
[20:47] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Ah, no. It's a single card.
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, Cool, glad we got the squared up, then my link is not relevant.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> that*
[20:48] <Mjolnirr> hi
[20:49] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Not sure if it's relevant, but when the system freezes sound stops, and REISUB doesn't work. It must be hard booted
[20:49] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: From what I understand, that should mean it's not a X issue?
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> when did mark shuttleworth grow a beard
[20:49] <moppy> geekmasterflash, have you tried the system with a single display?
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, My first thought is the ram is swapping, the htop app will tell you exactly how much cpu and memory is being used, hard shutdown will also mess up your OS.
[20:50] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: lets hope it will work now lol :p
[20:50] <geekmasterflash> moppy: Yes, it took a while longer to freeze but it did freeze eventually
[20:51] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: I have 16 gigs of ram and my swapiness is set to 1 due to using an SSD
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, Yes, I believe you can run that as a msdos install and use the mbr, but it has to be set up correctly is all.
[20:51] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: So far, I have never used more than 20% of my ram on anything
[20:51] <moppy> geekmasterflash, are you using the proprietary drivers?
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, Ah, have you set up optimizing for the HD?
[20:52] <geekmasterflash> moppy: I assume so? I grabbed nvidia-319 (tried 331 first and downgraded assuming the issue was driver related)
[20:52] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Yes
[20:52] <moppy> geekmasterflash, yes you are then. i have trouble with the new one as well.
[20:53] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: yay, it works! well lets hoe it does, it didn't failed at the "installing grub blabla" part
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, may or may not be relevant, I use a ssd, I use this site and it has a bit different trim setup for swappiness than 1 for trim.  https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[20:54] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Actually, I used that site to guide me through optimizing it
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> justaguy, Cool, to the mbr?
[20:54] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Already took all the steps on there
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> geekmasterflash, cool,
[20:54] <geekmasterflash> wilee-nilee: Horay, google.
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> "we mean you no harm" Google
[20:55] <justaguy> wilee-nilee: installation completed, reboot blabla
[20:55] <justaguy> lets hope it works right
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> all the ssd optimization guides are the same: put everything on a tmpfs :)
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> not exactly but nice try
[20:55] <moppy> if i suspected swap problems i would just turn off swap and re-test
[20:56] <justaguy> it works \o/
[20:56] <supergauntlet> okay, so I updated to 13.10
[20:56] <moppy> my ssd optimisation techique is put everything on the ssd: its faster than the hard drive :-)
[20:56] <supergauntlet> and now networkmanager is broken
[20:56] <supergauntlet> if i run nm-applet as a regular user it says that networkmanager isn't running
[20:56] <geekmasterflash> moppy: I actually installed without swap, and when the problem started I created a swap file to see if it helped. No dice
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, broadcom?
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> geekmasterflash: you wont need swap with 16gb ram
[20:57] <supergauntlet> and if I run nm-applet as root it shows my networks but i can't connect
[20:57] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: let me check
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> geekmasterflash: but it could save you if you run vms or something heavy
[20:57] <moppy> geekmasterflash, I actually think your problem is the nvidia driver. Are you able to boot into windows?
[20:57] <supergauntlet> my ethernet is a realtek and my wifi is atheros
[20:57] <supergauntlet> so no its not broadcom getting in the way
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, drivers do not follow upgrades many times is why I ask.
[20:57] <geekmasterflash> moppy: Don't have a windows install
[20:57] <supergauntlet> yep that does sound fair
[20:58] <supergauntlet> but no it's not drivers
[20:58] <moppy> geekmasterflash, ah ok - this is one of the times i would boot into windows and run diagnostics to eliminate hardware issues. especially if this is a brand new box. if the hardware's fine, boot back into linux and fix the config
[20:58] <supergauntlet> it's some issue with networkmanager
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, any errors on the upgrade, it finished a-okay?
[20:59] <daftykins> justaguy: glad it worked
[20:59] <Toaster_Strudel> how do i get more radio stations in rythmbox?
[20:59] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: it seemed to have, there was some whining about initramfs but that hasn't seemed to actually be a problem
[20:59] <geekmasterflash> moppy: I am pretty sure the hardware is good. Brand new, memtest86 ran all last night and found nothing wrong, psensor is installed and I had it running my last freeze and the temp on the CPU was 40c and the GPU 60c. glmark2 runs without problem...
[21:00] <supergauntlet> so seriously why might network manager be  broken
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, Do you have multiple kernel choices to try?
[21:00] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: nope
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> supergauntlet: because you updated
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> thats what seems to happen
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> :)
[21:00] <supergauntlet> wow, that's so helpful
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> [Gentoo], hardly helpful.
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> no but its true
[21:00] <supergauntlet> thanks for the smug smiley by the way
[21:00] <supergauntlet> i really appreciate it
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> :D
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> !fud | [Gentoo]
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> [Gentoo], help or stay quite
[21:01] <supergauntlet> I was hoping the update would go through without breaking anything but can't have that
[21:01] <[Gentoo]> wilee-nilee: sorry
[21:01] <supergauntlet> hmm maybe apt-get purge on network-manager?
[21:01] <supergauntlet> and then reinstall?
[21:02] <[Gentoo]> supergauntlet: you could, but i cant see why thatd change anything
[21:02] <supergauntlet> so if I try connecting with nm-applet run as root, I get this error:
[21:02] <supergauntlet> ** (nm-applet:28835): WARNING **: Could not create object for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/9: Method "GetAll" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
[21:03] <moppy> geekmasterflash, well i wish you good luck with it. ubuntu doesnt hard lock if it's not drivers or hardware. i hope you get to the bottom of it.
[21:04] <geekmasterflash> moppy: Thanks
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, You have no internet access now right?
[21:04] <supergauntlet> ethernet works
[21:05] <supergauntlet> no wifi though
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, If you purge it you will have none to call for the reinstall,
[21:05] <supergauntlet> what do you mean?
[21:05] <supergauntlet> oh it'll delete configs
[21:05] <supergauntlet> right
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, I believe wicd can be run without removing the nm now check that if you get no fix. nm is working it seems just not the wifi.
[21:06] <supergauntlet> network-manager itself is i believe working
[21:06] <supergauntlet> the daemon i mean
[21:07] <supergauntlet> it just seems to be nm-applet that is unable to connect to it
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, You have ethernet, the problem is wifi right?
[21:07] <supergauntlet> yes
[21:07] <bbrox> Hi
[21:07] <excognac> hi all i bumped into a serious issue: I tried to make a new user account in kubuntu 12.04 (with ppa:kde) for my girlfriend on the gui, I logged out then she typed her user name in, root requested to change password. then it froze. we tried it multiply times, same thing happened. then i tried to get to text mode with ctrl+alt+f1 i couldn't log on my administrator account. back to grapical, just loading screen. why is this?
[21:07] <excognac> *
[21:07] <[Gentoo]> bbrox: hi
[21:07] <bbrox> Q: Is there actually an Ubuntu One client for Ubuntu?
[21:07] <bbrox> https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, Then that is the focus, saying no nm here can get some bad support, people will spit out anything without getting details.
[21:08] <supergauntlet> right
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, can you pastebin lspci
[21:09] <supergauntlet> sure
[21:09] <supergauntlet> again i really don't think it's a hardware issue
[21:10] <supergauntlet> http://pastebin.com/2G1guiGD
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> excognac, ppa:kde to make a new user?
[21:11] <bbrox> so ubuntu one = horseshit? no support for linux itself?
[21:11] <excognac> wilee-nilee: no, i just have that ppa. nothing to with making a new user
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> excognac, " I tried to make a new user account in kubuntu 12.04 (with ppa:kde) for my girlfriend on the gui" how does that read to you?
[21:12] <lesocratic> hi!
[21:12] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: so any ideas?
[21:12] <moppy> bbrox, Yes there is, it will autosync your machine with the ubuntu cloud. it should be installed as default.
[21:12] <excognac> wilee-nilee: ()mark refers to the part of OS unusual. I used the grapical interface to make the new user. shall i try it from terminal?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, YOu are not the only one having problems with that specific wifi. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=AR9462
[21:13] <bbrox> moppy I'm on mint
[21:13] <lesocratic> what software for electronic schemas drawing ?
[21:13] <bbrox> moppy don't know if its here, i suspect not
[21:13] <supergauntlet> hmm
[21:13] <bbrox> maybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/276584/using-ubuntu-one-on-other-linux-distros
[21:13] <moppy> bbrox, then go yell at mint for removing it, if it's not there. but it is on ubuntus. I dont know how you do it on mint.
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> excognac, Not sure just trying to understand the post, you can remove that user with the gui, I have not added users in general
[21:14] <zykotick9> !one | bbrox try asking here
[21:14] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: I mean it worked before. Literally an hour ago it was working fine
[21:16] <excognac> wilee-nilee:  allright, so i sall try to sudo adduser? why gui way doesn!t work?
[21:16] <excognac> *shall
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, The wifi? before the upgrade?
[21:16] <supergauntlet> yeah
[21:17] <Dal> query me if you're interested in earning $1.00 paypal. must have droid/iphone.
[21:18] <bbrox> ty ubottu
[21:18] <bbrox> moppy I won't :)
[21:18] <k1l_> Dal: no advertising in the ubuntu channels, please
[21:18] <Dal> k1l_ oh ok sorry.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, Relevant that we know it worked, however you have upgraded, and a new kernel and slightly different OS, my guess these are important variables.
[21:19] <supergauntlet> Kernel actually seems to still be 3.8
[21:19] <supergauntlet> which is bizarre
[21:19] <supergauntlet> I thought 13.10 was 3.10 at least
[21:19] <k1l_> 13.10 is 3.11
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, 13.11 I believe
[21:19] <supergauntlet> huh.
[21:19] <supergauntlet> Wonder why my kernel didn't upgrade
[21:19] <h00k> Yeah, I'm on 3.11 at the moment with 13.10
[21:20] <k1l_> supergauntlet: did you choose the old kernel in grub?
[21:20] <supergauntlet> I don't believe I actually had a different option
[21:21] <excognac> wilee-nilee: this is really a joke. I created an account from terminal with sudo useradd <username> then i logged  out try to log it then: Failed session: gnome.
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, if you run sudo update-grub is the 3.8 all you see?
[21:21] <supergauntlet> yeah /boot doesn't have a 3.11 kernel
[21:21] <supergauntlet> yep just 3.8
[21:21] <k1l_> supergauntlet: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[21:21] <supergauntlet> 13.10
[21:21] <supergauntlet> I have no idea what the hell happenned
[21:21] <Mjolnirr> beyler organize olalım
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> excognac, I don't think you would use sudo, as I stated this is not an area I have messed around in.
[21:22] <k1l_> supergauntlet: which ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:22] <supergauntlet> xubuntu
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> excognac, Not sure if you even have a desktop now, however this wiki might be helpful to see if you made any errors originally. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto#Graphical_Kubuntu
[21:24] <Jordan_U> supergauntlet: Please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image".
[21:24] <jangkrik> hi anyone know why i must provide root password to use sakis3g?
[21:25] <[Gentoo]> jangkrik: what is that
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> jangkrik, context?
[21:25] <bekks> !info sakis3g
[21:25] <Jordan_U> supergauntlet: And "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic".
[21:26] <supergauntlet> http://pastebin.com/h7DNp7vf
[21:26] <excognac> wilee-nilee: it is a laptop, and I've read this (I always look things up before i I ask) but thanks anyway
[21:26] <jangkrik> ups my bad. sakis3g is a software to connect using 3g/gsm usb modem
[21:26] <supergauntlet> http://pastebin.com/REn8sfDc
[21:27] <k1l_> supergauntlet: what does "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" bring you`?
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> excognac, Cool, most don't. ;)
[21:27] <jangkrik> i found it on ubuntu forum :) dunno if its unofficial
[21:27] <supergauntlet> about 200 mb of stuff
[21:27] <Jordan_U> jangkrik: Most 3G Modems should work out of the box with network-manager. Did you try just using network-manager first?
[21:27] <k1l_> supergauntlet: pastebin please
[21:27] <supergauntlet> among them the 3.11 kenerl
[21:27] <supergauntlet> *kernel
[21:27] <supergauntlet> sure 1 sec
[21:28] <excognac> wilee-nilee: now I looked the new user up with gui, it had 0 privileges. I set them there then i relog
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> excognac, In ubuntu, there is a standard account no sudo and an admin with sudo in the gui, I have never used kubuntu, is it the same in it's gui?
[21:29] <supergauntlet> http://pastebin.com/nYb4igAw
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> excognac, Just a general question.
[21:30] <k1l_> supergauntlet: how did you upgrade?
[21:30] <jangkrik> Jordan_U: i happen to be using networkmanager on gnome 3.10 on arch linux which doesn't appear to be able to connect. it's supposed to be detected automatically
[21:30] <excognac> wilee-nilee: in kubuntu u need to type admin pwd to access the gui in System settings>User Management
[21:31] <excognac> brb
[21:31] <supergauntlet> I'm actually not sure. I was testing out KDE from the ppa, i removed it and the ppa and it somehow pulled in 700mb of updates from the saucy repos
[21:31] <chamunks> Pici, I'm going to push an update to the installation.md to include my sidenotes from the few breakages that I got from my attempt to install it.
[21:31] <k1l_> supergauntlet: i would suggest to run the whole dist-upgrade and then reboot
[21:31] <supergauntlet> didn't realize it until it was more than half over
[21:31] <supergauntlet> sure will do
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> excognac, Yes a password is needed to add a user there, but is there a choice of account type was my question.
[21:32] <k1l_> supergauntlet: hmm, not good. but i think with the dist-upgrade most should be fixed
[21:32] <supergauntlet> i really do not know how that happenned
[21:32] <supergauntlet> but yeah hopefully it fixes itself, I backed up ~ so worst case I can reinstall
[21:33] <jangkrik> oh and on xubuntu saucy it asks for password too
[21:33] <Pici> chamunks: cool, thanks :)
[21:34] <Danato> is it possible to make this url work on rhythmbox?
[21:34] <Danato> idk what does it take to make it work
[21:34] <Pici> doja: "this url" ?
[21:35] <Pici> Danato: ^
[21:35] <Danato> Pici: so sorry lol http://41.221.192.2:8000/rcv.mp3
[21:36] <zykotick9> Danato: just a side note, but "mplayer http://41.221.192.2:8000/rcv.mp3" works for me...
[21:39] <Danato> zykotick9: thats pretty cool
[21:41] <supergauntlet> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:41] <supergauntlet>  /var/cache/apt/archives/whoopsie-preferences_0.9_amd64.deb
[21:41] <supergauntlet> uhhh
[21:41] <kandinski> for some reason, my /etc/resolv.conf has only 'nameserver 127.0.0.1', despite the fact that I have two nameservers set up in my networkmanager. What went wrong?
[21:41] <kandinski> I'm using 12.04, have been using Ubuntu since forever, and this just started happening this morning.
[21:42] <zykotick9> kandinski: (are you sure about that?)  'cause N-M has been using localhost for a while now.  resolv.conf is deprecated.
[21:42] <kandinski> right
[21:42] <kandinski> let's go back then
[21:43] <kandinski> I looked in /etc/resolv.conf because I can't resolve names
[21:43] <kandinski> I've rebooted router and laptop, and I still can't resolve names
[21:44] <kandinski> this is new: I've been using this laptop with 12.04 since it came out
[21:44] <moppy> kandinski, i assume you've checked what the nameservers are set to?
[21:45] <moppy> kandinski, i assume you can use the net using IP addresses?
[21:45] <kandinski> I'm on irc, so yes, I can using IP addresses
[21:45] <moppy> kandinski, (just trying to establish if name resolution is actually the issue)
[21:45] <kandinski> I have my server and a couple more sites on /etc/hosts
[21:45] <MVanDruff> hello I know this is kind of a newb question but I have 2 hard drives is there i way i can choose to boot from the second hard drive in the boot loader
[21:46] <kandinski> moppy: sorry if that sounded tetchy, I was just explaining that I'm on irc through the same connection I can't get dns through
[21:46] <moppy> kandinski, I assume nameservers are set? they are showing in the network manager gui tool?
[21:46] <stephelton> i'm writing a custom upstart script in /etc/init. it seems to work fine (start and stop) but it doesn't appear when i run rcconf. i want to configure the system to execute it when the machine boots.
[21:46] <kandinski> nameservers are set to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, they are showing there. They are working, I checked from my server.
[21:46] <zykotick9> MVanDruff: is there something on the 2nd to boot?  try "sudo update-grub" from ubuntu and see if it automajically addes the 2nd HD
[21:47] <moppy> kandinski,  those are google's i think, those do indeed work
[21:47] <MVanDruff> the second hd has win xp
[21:47] <bekks> kandinski: Then whats the content of /etc/resolv.conf and "nmcli dev list" in a pastebin please?
[21:47] <moppy> kandinski, so when you - for example - tracert using a name, what output do you get?
[21:47] <kandinski> hmm, wait...
[21:48] <kandinski> not an ubuntu issue
[21:48] <kandinski> I can't even ping 8.8.8.8
[21:48] <kandinski> damn tpg
[21:48] <kandinski> (thanks, guys)
[21:49] <hkan> hello there, i recently updated to ubuntu gnome 13.10 from unity 12.04. there is a messages panel at the bottom of the screen as you may know. indicators of custom installed apps for example skype and spotify goes there. I want them at the top, how can I?
[21:49] <moppy> hopefully that's ISP problem and not stepped on cable :) Anyway hope you get it fixed, GL with it
[21:52] <kandinski> moppy: thanks a lot, sorry for bringing this up here before checking the obvious.
[21:53] <Duel-Travis> where is my volume in the tray?
[21:54] <moppy> kandinski, I was about to run through the old 1-2-3-4: "ping localhost, ping yourself, ping your gateway, ping google" but i guess you got it :-)
[21:54] <moppy> (yourself by address, that is)
[21:54] <kandinski> yeah, network is working, so ping google was the first step
[21:54] <kandinski> it's hella weird
[21:54] <jangkrik> okay gotta go. lead a good life, guyz :p
[21:55] <moppy> (We were actually taught the step 4 as 'ping microsoft' but that was because it was their course. haha)
[21:55] <mandla> Hello Guys.
[21:55] <moppy> o7 mandla
[21:56] <Azer> so, centos installs on this 240GB ssd fine, ubuntu won't install on it...
[21:56] <Guest7538> Does ubuntu use google chrome?
[21:56] <mandla> Can i please ask for some help. Im running Ubuntu 10.04. For some critical system HIV/AIDS and Viral Load Testing and all.
[21:57] <moppy> Guest7538, default browser is firefox, but google chrome is available for download
[21:57] <mandla> Now i had a power surge yesterday. Now when i try to boot the system i get:
[21:57] <mandla> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory
[21:57] <mandla> mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
[21:57] <mandla> mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
[21:57] <mandla> Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[21:57] <mandla> No init found. Try passing init= bootarg
[21:57] <kandinski> moppy: back in the days, it was 'ping hp.es', but that's because I'm Spanish, and 'hp' is just two characters
[21:57] <FloodBot1> mandla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <jojoa1997> what is the best app for recording your screen and sound. I need something that has good quality ~480 or 720 and it needs to be fast enough for recording games
[21:57] <Guest7538> http://techcrunch.com/2013/11/20/microsoft-now-sells-t-shirts-that-claim-googles-chrome-steals-your-data/
[21:57] <mandla> Oh Sorry.
[21:58] <moppy> Guest7538, how does it steal it, if i still have it?
[21:58] <stephelton> i'm writing a custom upstart script in /etc/init. it seems to work fine (start and stop) but it doesn't appear when i run rcconf. i want to configure the system to execute it when the machine boots.
[21:58] <Guest7538> Jojoba maybe fraps works on ubuntu
[21:59] <jojoa1997> oh and it also must be free
[21:59] <mandla> Hello Guys.
[21:59] <moppy> jojoa1997, VLC can record from screen, but I can't comment on speed/quality
[21:59] <jojoa1997> can it record audio?
[22:00] <zykotick9> Guest7538: wow, that's the first MS product I've wanted in YEARS
[22:00] <moppy> jojoa1997, Yes it does audio and video. By VLC I mean the VLC player from videolan. It can basically record video and audio from your own system (so i used to use it to save streaming video)
[22:01] <jojoa1997> ok but does it record mike audio i meant
[22:01] <moppy> jojoa1997, all linux does that, even gnome ALSA controller lets you record from the mic slot
[22:01] <jojoa1997> cool
[22:01] <moppy> jojoa1997, gnome asla controller? sorrt that's not the righ tname for it. I think it's pulseaudio control?
[22:02] <mandla> Hello guys, sorry to disturb but im in a desperate situation, which threatens people's lives. Can i get help?
[22:02] <PhantomPhreak53> Is there a way to get apt-get to generate a new default config file for mysql without having to completely remove mysql-server and reinstalling it
[22:02] <tmmunq> 911
[22:02] <moppy> mandla, for an urgent question, you've waited several minutes to ask it. it's not really urgent ?
[22:03] <mandla> I did ask moppy
[22:03] <kandinski> moppy: someone must be running around with their hair on fire right now. tpg (a biggish australian isp) is not talking to google at all.
[22:03] <daftykins> mandla: boot a liveCD and see what you can see on the disk
[22:03] <mandla> No init found. Try passing init= bootarg, Ubuntu can not boot up. I tried running a LiveCD so i could run fsck
[22:03] <moppy> kandinski, "Release the drop bears!"
[22:04] <moppy> mandla, sorry i missed it the first time, my apologies
[22:04] <_joey> looking for a utility that will split a pdf file into single pages
[22:05] <_joey> thanks!
[22:05] <kandinski> moppy: just to provide some closure. Deranged drop bears might be the cause of the network split. Weaponised wombats are on the case.
[22:05] <mandla> whenever i try to run fsck on liveCD i get /dev/sda is in use
[22:05] <moppy> kandinski, lead by a bunyip?
[22:06] <mandla> I tried fuser -m /dev/sda i get a list of pid's.
[22:06] <daftykins> mandla: check it isn't mounted first. boot back in and type "mount" to see if any sda partitions are mounted and if so, unmount them
[22:06] <zykotick9> mandla: are you specifiying sda1 for example?  sda is the "Drive" itself.
[22:06] <kandinski> moppy: you got it
[22:06] <mandla> When i kill them some regenerate.
[22:07] <mandla> no i am no a liveCD and the partitions are not mounted.
[22:07] <jojoa1997> what is the best free video editor?
[22:07] <hkan> hello there, i recently updated to ubuntu gnome 13.10 from unity 12.04. there is a messages panel at the bottom of the screen as you may know. indicators of custom installed apps for example skype and spotify goes there. I want them at the top, how can I?
[22:08] <robierob> hey guys i want to get a real time kernal for audio production what do i pu into terminal to get that?
[22:08] <auronandace> jojoa1997: you can give openshot a go
[22:08] <moppy> jojoa1997, 'best' i dont know: but openshot and Lightworks are OK
[22:09] <mandla> zykotick9, when i specify sda1 i get fsck.LVM2_member: not found
[22:09] <_joey> in which file do I place autorun utility duing boot?
[22:09] <_joey> thanks
[22:09] <kandinski> moppy: lightworks is better than OK
[22:09] <kandinski> jojoa1997: ligthworks is a recently freed professional video editor
[22:09] <zykotick9> mandla: if you are using LVM, I have no clue.  sorry, best of luck.
[22:09] <kandinski> for that reason, it might be a bit too complicated. Also, it's designed to be used with a special hardware shuttle which you don't have
[22:09] <daftykins> mandla: yeah i have no idea with LVM either, sorry
[22:09]  * kandinski edited video on lightworks some 16 years ago
[22:10] <mandla> is there any problem with LVM?
[22:10] <kandinski> jojoa1997: I too recommend openshot, see how you go
[22:10] <robierob> i am making my own version of ubuntu studio and i am starting off with xubuntu so it will be a xubuntu studio... lol
[22:10] <jojoa1997> i cant find lightworks on the software center
[22:11] <robierob> what the terminal call for real time kernal sudo apt-get install ?
[22:11] <moppy> jojoa1997, http://www.lwks.com/   it's free as in zero money but not free as in not proprietary. thats probaby; why not in software center
[22:11] <kandinski> moppy: I thought it was free software
[22:12] <jojoa1997> open software is where you can see source code right?
[22:12] <kandinski> and you have the right to redistribute it
[22:12] <daftykins> mandla: can you pastebin the output of "ls /dev/LV/" ?
[22:12] <kandinski> and modify it, and redistribute the modifications
[22:12] <Azer> no one cares but my issue was raid metadata
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> jojoa1997, theoretically yes.
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> open source
[22:13] <_joey> in which file do I place autorun utility duing boot?
[22:13] <moppy> jojoa1997, technically ubuntu isn't free either ... it has proprietary components like media codecs and font rendering.
[22:14] <moppy> jojoa1997, this of course is using stallman's definition of "free" which might not be your definition
[22:14] <mandla> daftykins, i have no LV in /dev
[22:14] <daftykins> mandla: yeah my bad, what's in /dev/mapper/ ?
[22:15] <mandla> control s008-root s008-swap_1
[22:15] <kandinski> moppy: for 'free software', unless you mean 'for no money', it's the fsf definition that we use
[22:15] <kandinski> Debian's free software guidelines (or the Open Source Definition) amount to the same thing, but with corner cases explained
[22:15] <jojoa1997> does lightworks have a linux version?
[22:15] <tmmunq> looks like the only version of lightworks thats on linux is the beta. have fun with that
[22:16] <daftykins> mandla: try "sudo fsck /dev/mapper/s008-root
[22:16] <moppy> jojoa1997, yes why would i mention it to you otherwise? :-)
[22:16] <kandinski> jojoa1997: www.lwks.com
[22:17] <kandinski> moppy: crap that it's not floss. They did announce they were "open sourcing" it
[22:17] <kandinski> crap
[22:17] <mandla> Its saying its clean
[22:17] <jojoa1997> but all it gives are windows downloads
[22:17] <daftykins> mandla: ok try "sudo fsck -yfv /dev/mapper/s008-root"
[22:17] <tmmunq> i get the same things, windows only
[22:17] <moppy> jojoa1997, http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=19&id=56304&Itemid=81#56304
[22:18] <moppy> jojoa1997, openshot isnt as good, but it's also an option if you dont like lightworks
[22:18] <tmmunq> beta
[22:18] <mandla> daftykins, its running
[22:18] <jojoa1997> well sorry but lightworks is no because i need to make an account
[22:18] <moppy> jojoa1997, lightworks is designed for professionals and the UI shows it
[22:19] <tmmunq> people who know what theyre doing. is that you?
[22:20] <Guest7538> Jojoba try the software center there use to be one
[22:20] <mandla> daftykins, what does that last command supposed to do? It seems its going to take a while, hasnt even started.
[22:21] <daftykins> mandla: check and verify the data on the disk. how do you know it hasn't started?
[22:21] <wafflejock> mandla: check top to see if fsck is running
[22:22] <wafflejock> mandla: it will likely take some time depending on the size of the filesystem it's checking
[22:22] <mandla> there is a prompt blinking. but its not giving any output dispite verbose.
[22:22] <daftykins> can you see the system's disk activity LED?
[22:23] <moppy> wow, that takes me back
[22:23] <wafflejock> mandla: can you get to another tty if so just run top to see if fsck is churning or not
[22:23] <moppy> when HDDs had lights
[22:24] <daftykins> moppy: directly on them? ;) sure does.
[22:25] <mandla> yes its running on tty1
[22:25] <mandla> the disk is close to a TB, how long does this take?
[22:26] <daftykins> no idea
[22:26] <daftykins> mandla: but can you tell the disk is working?
[22:26] <mandla> yes. the sound.
[22:26] <mandla> :)
[22:26] <daftykins> hehe
[22:26] <daftykins> ok well stick with it
[22:27] <mandla> why? you think disk is dead?
[22:27] <moppy> mandla, he was just helping you check the command is running, that's all.
[22:27] <levo> suppose my Isp has blocked some ports, and i'm using ssh (socks tunneling) to bypass some blocked websites, now the proxy can't open some websites. (like facebook, blogger,...).
[22:28] <mandla> ok moppy
[22:28] <berryciderspider> should I get 12.04 or 13.10?
[22:28] <mandla> i hope this works
[22:28] <mandla> berryciderspider, 12.04
[22:29] <berryciderspider> Mandela: is 13.10 not very good?
[22:29] <moppy> berryciderspider, they both work, but what is your use case for the machine?
[22:29] <levo> continous: when I'm not on proxy: requesting https://www.google.com redirects to http://www.google.com  , but https://www.google.nl works fine.
[22:29] <zykotick9> berryciderspider: you'll probably find MOST ubuntu users use the MOST recent release YMMV
[22:29] <berryciderspider> web/software dev
[22:30] <daftykins> mandla: could be errors on it after a power surge, since it's not mounting
[22:30] <Rust3dCor3> Hello! I have a problem with my backlight. I have asus f5rl laptop, and the original keyboard broke.. need to sit on an external one. The problem is the backlight is set to 0 (max is 15) and i can
[22:30] <moppy> berryciderspider, you will probably want 13.10 then. newer versions  of everything and frequent updates
[22:30] <Rust3dCor3> sry.. and i can't get it to val 15 again
[22:30] <Rust3dCor3> simply i need a key remap
[22:30] <moppy> berryciderspider, 12.04 is a LTS with extended support, it's for people who desire stability over updated packages
[22:31] <mandla> daftykins, oh i see. but after this disk check will it fine?
[22:31] <berryciderspider> ok thanks, 13.10 it is
[22:31] <daftykins> mandla: i have no way of knowing
[22:31] <mandla> Im in Botswana and its already 00:31
[22:32] <daftykins> so is this system important? :)
[22:32] <berryciderspider> if my laptop has 6gb ram, do I get thé 64 bit version?
[22:32] <levo> can someone explain something for me please?? why do i have this problem: why socks proxy that I use, doesn't work with SOME websites? how's it possible? PLEASE
[22:33] <mandla> very important. patients viral loads and staff.
[22:33] <moppy> berryciderspider, it doesnt matter with linux so long as the machine has a PAE processor. UEFI however requires 64 bit i believe
[22:33] <berryciderspider> thanks
[22:33] <Rust3dCor3> So anyone?
[22:34] <ikonia> Rust3dCor3: anyone what ?
[22:34] <zykotick9> moppy: it DOES matter.  PAE is a "hack" (and a bad one)
[22:34] <Rust3dCor3> i have backlight turned to 0
[22:34] <moppy> berryciderspider, the 4GB limit on system ram is only for windows desktops; windows server 32bit can address 64GB of ram. You're still limited to 32bt addresses for processes however
[22:34] <Rust3dCor3> and i want the max amount
[22:34] <Rust3dCor3> its acpi problem
[22:34] <berryciderspider> mollu: hlm when i boot situ arch on USB,
[22:34] <apb1963> what's the correct syntax for pastebinit to post a file please?
[22:34] <daftykins> mandla: isn't the data on that system backed up?
[22:35] <daftykins> apb1963: command | pastebinit
[22:35] <apb1963> so ... cat file | pastebinit then?
[22:35] <robkinyon> i'm building my own package. i have it installing cleanly and that's great. But, when I run "apt-get install mypackage" twice in succession, it does an upgrade both times, even though nothing has changed in the repos.
[22:35] <robkinyon> what could i be missing?
[22:35] <robkinyon> (xposted from #debian)
[22:35] <mandla> the guy responsible cant seem to be able to locate the tape.
[22:36] <apb1963> the man page says I can do pastebinit -i filename  ... but that doesn't seem to work.  Worse...
[22:36] <moppy> mandla, i sympathise, that seems to happen a lot :-)
[22:36] <apb1963> pastebinit -b pastebin.com -i out.txt
[22:36] <apb1963> Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (pastebin.com)
[22:36] <daftykins> apb1963: yeah the cat should work
[22:37] <apb1963> daftykins: thanks... i'll give it a try
[22:37] <berryciderspider> mollu: when i boot with arch on USB, it comes up situ several UEFI options (arch linux x86-64 UEFI, UEFI shell)
[22:37] <berryciderspider> moppy+
[22:38] <berryciderspider> moppy
[22:38] <apb1963> daftykins: works.  Thank you
[22:39] <moppy> berryciderspider, if you have uefi you need 64bit; you might be able to turn off uefi in the firmware. that's up to you. i reflashed a bios to get rid of uefi and im running away if it ever comes near me until it's more mature
[22:39] <mandla> moppy, is there nowhere of tracking progress of this?
[22:40] <PhantomPhreak53> Is there a way to get a default my.cnf restored using apt-get for mysql-server
[22:40] <mandla> I meant noway.
[22:40] <robkinyon> PhantomPhreak53: "apt-get download mysql-server && ar vx mysql-server.deb"
[22:41] <robkinyon> PhantomPhreak53: "tar xzf" the data.tar.gz and you'll find it in etc/my.cnf
[22:42] <fahadash> Why does gedit makes a actualfilename~ in the same dir ? And it doesn't delete it when I close the file
[22:42] <berryciderspider> moppy: thanks
[22:42] <daftykins> fahadash: it's a backup
[22:43] <MonkeyDust> fahadash  in case the file should close unexpectedly
[22:43] <robkinyon> if no-one knows about package version issues, where should i ask instead of here?
[22:43] <Teleport> I want to autoroute my softwares to my soundcard
[22:43] <daftykins> robkinyon: there's a packaging channel but i don't know its' name
[22:43] <Teleport> at start
[22:43] <daftykins> #ubuntu-package ?
[22:44] <wentknweqt_> anyone else here notice insane CPU usage on 13.10 with nvidia binary drivers?
[22:44] <robkinyon> daftykins: nope. :(
[22:44] <wentknweqt_> just moving my mouse can eat 50% CPU, which is a bit ridiculous
[22:44] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: that's a very wide sweeping statement, unlikley to get feedback without specifics and other people running the same hardware
[22:45] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: why nvidia drivers = cpu
[22:46] <wentknweqt_> i'm sorry, let me be more blunt. moving my mouse around in 13.10 causes 50% cpu usage.. i run the nvidia binary drivers, in case that's something that would matter. anyone else notice this?
[22:46] <Teleport> Any solution for autoroute instad of patchage?
[22:46] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: there have been no reports on this, checking what process is using cpu would be a good start
[22:46] <wentknweqt_> Xorg
[22:46] <daftykins> !channels
[22:46] <wentknweqt_> also, i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1250277
[22:46] <daftykins> robkinyon: ^ try the links above
[22:47] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: that's ati though
[22:47] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, why ati = cpu?
[22:47] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: you're using nvidia, so it's different to that bug
[22:47] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: it's possibly more likley a bug in xorg, rather than nvidia/ati if it's happening with both nvidia/ati
[22:48] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, i'm not so sure that bug is related to ATI anymore than mine is related to nvidia lol
[22:48] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: you don't know it's related to nvidia
[22:48] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, which do you use? ATI or nvidia?
[22:48] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: you have nothing to suggest it's nvidia
[22:48] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: what does it matter what I use ??
[22:48] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: you have a suggestion it's xorg - not nvidia, and as that bug reports it on ati, it's more likley with this info, that it's xorg, rather than ati/nvidia
[22:48] <wentknweqt_> i guess because i wanted to ask you to run top and move your mouse around in circles and see if you see what i'm experiencing?
[22:49] <mandla> Hello Guys.
[22:49] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: you can rest easy that it's not common, or everyone would be reporting it
[22:49] <mandla> 0 bad blocks
[22:50] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, would it be too much to ask that you try the same if you have a 13.10 box?
[22:50] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: there is no need for me to try it, think about what I've just said
[22:50] <daftykins> mandla: no other messages at all?
[22:51] <robkinyon> daftykins: thank you
[22:51] <robkinyon> it's #ubuntu-packaging
[22:51] <mandla> Its a block of messages.
[22:51] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, okay, thanks for your help.
[22:51] <wentknweqt_> does anyone else want to try running top and moving their mouse around in 13.10 to see if CPU jumps? i am seeing 50% load with moving mouse
[22:51] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: it's pointless just asking random people to test it
[22:52] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: it's got to be a similar user case to you
[22:52] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: as other people are NOT reporting it, I think it's fair to assume it's not common
[22:52] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, would you suggest something else then?
[22:52] <mandla> daftykins, what should i look out for. I mean there is no way i can share the output as its on a stand alone server.
[22:53] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: either logging a bug, or commenting on that bug with the new bug idea saying you're having this problem with nvidia also
[22:54] <daftykins> mandla: try rebooting now and just see if it comes up normally
[22:55] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, i'd rather find someone with the same setup but no problem and compare setups with them to isolate what's causing my issue, then report a fix.. i'm pretty sure a "me too" on that bug will not really help anyone.
[22:55] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: you're not paying attention, it's not "me too" you have a totally different setup, and you're having the same problem, suggesting it's NOT ati, it's more generic than that.
[22:56] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: providing that informaiton and details on what you are using could be invaluable to stop them looking at xorg-ati and start looking at xorg generic for example
[22:57] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: the odds of someone running the same cpu, the same graphics card and graphics vendor, and same motherboard and same ubuntu 13.10 patch version with same nvidia drivers are "slim", so a pretty pointless test
[22:57] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: as this is not a mass problem, eg: not many people have reported it, you can assume it's specific to certain setups, so you need to test with those setups
[22:57] <mandla> same error
[22:57] <mandla> (initramfs)
[22:58] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, feel free to do it on my behalf. i'm going to track down what's causing this myself. good luck with your community driving or whatever it is you're doing
[22:58] <ikonia> wentknweqt_: I'm not doing it, this is your problem/bug, if you can't be bothered to provide input into a bug report, that's your problem
[22:59] <mandla> daftykins, same problem man. (initgramfs)
[22:59] <daftykins> mandla: ok i think you might want to think about recovering the data from the live session :(
[23:00] <wentknweqt_> ikonia, i cannot. life's short. later
[23:00] <oz0ne> modprobe issue, after a update i found system to load psmouse. i blacklisted it and tried to list my correct mouse in /modprobe.d/mouse.conf:hid-holtek-mouse after a reboot it ain't loaded, when i then do 'modprobe hid-holtek-mouse' it loads as it should. with no errors. any advice?
[23:00] <PhantomPhreak53> robkinyon: apt-get download mysql-server && ar vx mysql-server.deb is the ar vx correct?
[23:01] <mandla> daftykins, so there is no way i can get my old system back?
[23:01] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[23:01] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[23:01] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[23:01] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[23:01] <Elm3rl1ns> a
[23:01] <daftykins> oz0ne: i think you can put extra module names in /etc/modules to load them at boot
[23:01] <FloodBot1> Elm3rl1ns: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <daftykins> mandla: well if you find someone with better LVM experience you might be able to, but that's as far as i can take you i'm afraid
[23:02] <PhantomPhreak53> robkinyon: I get ar: mysql-server.deb: No such file or directory\
[23:03] <oz0ne> daftykins: made my day, thx : D
[23:03] <maxb> PhantomPhreak53: Using ar on a .deb sounds like an overcomplicated solution, what file are you trying to replace?
[23:03] <PhantomPhreak53> my.cnf
[23:07] <PhantomPhreak53> maxb: nevermind. I found it.
[23:17] <Rust3dCor3> Hello again. I have a question about remaping my laptops Fn keys. What tool should I use? And yes.. no compiz.
[23:20] <zarius> Is there a way to play a video without a border in 12.04?
[23:21] <berryciderspider> I get "error getting file:-6 not supported" when I try to copy a file from my android to ubutnu 12.04
[23:22] <zarius> berryciderspider: you using a plug or wifi?
[23:23] <berryciderspider> micro
[23:24] <zarius> Oh micro sd card? *boggles* must not know the format... weird :P
[23:24] <berryciderspider> microusb
[23:24] <berryciderspider> but yeah, on micro sd
[23:25] <berryciderspider> in phone
[23:26] <zarius> Hrmm, here's a page that *may* help
[23:26] <zarius> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1922115
[23:28] <berryciderspider> Marius: cheers
[23:29] <berryciderspider> zarius#
[23:29] <zarius> berryciderspider: That help?
[23:30] <tomlikestorock> I have ubuntu on disk 1, and windows on disk 2, with grub managing the boot. I've noticed that after time goes by with not logging into my windows drive that somehow the C/H/S values of my windows disk change according to grub and I can't boot windows anymore. Is this a known issue?
[23:31] <berryciderspider> zarius: still looking
[23:31] <vic_> anyone that can lead me in the right directon on upgrading from 3.11 to 3.12, im fine with it not being stable
[23:31] <berryciderspider> don't really get why there is an issue
[23:32] <tomlikestorock> should I put the windows drive as the first drive, and use the windows boot loader to manage the boot process?
[23:36] <turduks> **Earn 0.25$ Per Lead **. For Details:http://www.StillRemember.Net/Affiliate.htm
[23:38] <zarius> vic_: You mean 12.04 to 13.10?
[23:39] <seanz> Greetings all. I'm wondering if someone has a link to information for setting up an Ubuntu ppa, or a packaging server that is Ubuntu-specific.
[23:39] <IncrediblePony> hello, I'm new to this IRC thing, is this the official ubuntu channgel?
[23:39] <IncrediblePony> channel*
[23:39] <zarius> IncrediblePony: I do believe so :)
[23:40] <seanz> IncrediblePony: Welcome!
[23:40] <IncrediblePony> awesome! I need some help :P cus I can't seem to get ubuntu installed alongside my win7 on my laptop
[23:40] <IncrediblePony> and I'm getting frustrated
[23:42] <IncrediblePony> anyone able to help? :)
[23:44] <IncrediblePony> :( no one even remotely interested?
[23:45] <seanz> IncrediblePony: Not guaranteeing I can help, but I'm willing to try until someone more knowledgeable comes along.
[23:45] <alisultanvi> hello
[23:45] <seanz> alisultanvi: Greetings.
[23:45] <seanz> IncrediblePony: Where is the hangup?
[23:46] <alisultanvi> i no english langlech
[23:46] <alisultanvi> ;D
[23:46] <alisultanvi> блядъ есть сука русские тут ?
[23:48] <fahadash> How do I create a new user and copy all settings (including xfce and gnome settings, wallpapers, screen settings) to it ?
[23:48] <fahadash> I mean copying from another existing user
[23:48] <IncrediblePony> I am having trouble installing my Ubuntu from both Wubi and USB, when I boot from USB I get an ERROR No default og UI configuration directive found
[23:48] <IncrediblePony> ^for seanz
[23:48] <alisultanvi> ебанный ваш английский язык сукины дети демократии
[23:48] <fahadash> !ru
[23:49] <seanz> fahadash: Perhaps create the new user, then cp -a the old user's home dir to the new user's home dir, and then chown the copy to the new user?
[23:49] <SchrodingersScat> IncrediblePony: I don't think anyone recommends wubi
[23:49] <fahadash> !ru alisultanvi
[23:49] <FiremanEd> !ru | alisultanvi
[23:49] <alisultanvi> sorry
[23:49] <alisultanvi> #ubuntu-ru
[23:50] <fahadash> seanz, I don't want to copy over all the data. But thanks. Thats one way
[23:50] <seanz> fahadash: What do you want to do?
[23:50] <berryciderspider> I can't copy an .iso to ubuntu 12.04 ('these files are on a digital audio player)
[23:50] <IncrediblePony> SchrodingersCat: no I found out as much :P
[23:50] <seanz> You want them to share the data?
[23:50] <seanz> A shared home?
[23:50] <fahadash> seanz, I want to create a new user by copying only *settings* of an existing user, not documents or pictures
[23:51] <berryciderspider> "not supported" error
[23:51] <seanz> fahadash: I believe XFCE has a hidden dir in the home directory. Something like .xfce or something.
[23:51] <seanz> You could probably copy that.
[23:51] <seanz> Gnome has one or more.
[23:51] <berryciderspider> tldont think its being read as a Ian device
[23:51] <berryciderspider> Ian# device
[23:51] <berryciderspider> usb#
[23:51] <seanz> I think some research would be in order to see which dirs you would need. Maybe someone has an existing script, fahadash.
[23:51] <zykotick9> seanz: re:gnome - that's "lots more" ;)
[23:52] <seanz> zykotick9: haha - yeah, I definitely don't know the right answer.
[23:52] <seanz> Just thinking it'd be possible with a bit of research.
[23:52] <seanz> Probably some experimentation.
[23:52] <seanz> I think Gnome has a way through a GUI tool to export settings.
[23:52] <zykotick9> seanz: +1
[23:53] <fahadash> ok
[23:53] <seanz> fahadash: The good news is that it should just be a matter of copying the right files. The bad news is that there are a lot of files.
[23:54] <IncrediblePony> seanz: I am having trouble installing my Ubuntu from both Wubi and USB, when I boot from USB I get an ERROR No default og UI configuration directive found, where should I go from there?
[23:54] <seanz> If the existing user's home directory is well organized, it should be possible to pick out the small handful of things you *don't* want to copy, and copy everything else.
[23:54] <seanz> fahadash: ^ ^ ^
[23:54] <berryciderspider> any ideas why can't copy iso to ubuntu?
[23:55] <seanz> IncrediblePony: Why do you need wubi?
[23:55] <seanz> What does "both wubi and USB" mean?
[23:55] <seanz> IncrediblePony: So you have a new Windows 8 machine that has the newer UEFI firmware?
[23:56] <seanz> Oh! You tried wubi and then USB, and neither are working? Is that it, IncrediblePony?
[23:57] <alisultanvi> you can upgrade to 13.04 to 13.10 and not 14.04?
[23:58] <alisultanvi> you can upgrade to 13.04 to 13.10 and not 14.04?
[23:58] <Pici> alisultanvi: you can always upgrade from one release of Ubuntu to the next.
[23:58] <IncrediblePony> seanz: I don't need wubi :P - I tried it it failed, and I decided to go for USB install instead. which is also failing
[23:58] <seanz> IncrediblePony: So what is the failure?
[23:59] <seanz> Need some details, unless you mentioned them earlier and I'm not seeing them.
[23:59] <IncrediblePony> seanz: I only get up a console when I try to boot from USB with and ERROR saying, No default or UI directory found
[23:59] <seanz> IncrediblePony: Ah, ok. Right.
[23:59] <Sh1G3rU> IncrediblePony,  how many hdd do you have??
[23:59] <alisultanvi> it would be nice if you could specify the version to which you want to upgrade