[00:27] <ner0x> Any tools for xubuntu to fix/diagnose dead pixels?
[00:28] <bekks> ner0x: you cant fix dead pixels, except by replacing the display.
[00:29] <ner0x> bekks: I'm saying I'm not sure if it's dead or stuck.
[00:30] <Unit193> xscreensaver has an LCD scrubber, not sure how well it works.
[00:30] <bekks> In both cases there is no way to fix it.
[00:30] <ner0x> bekks: Sorry, wrong channel. Someone else was being a douche in another room. lol
[00:33] <Monkeytoe> I am running Xubuntu 13.10. I have an AMD 7950 graphics card. I am using the graphics drivers from AMD (fglrx-updates). How do I set the graphics card fan speed? Currently the card is throwing off major heat just sitting at the desktop doing nothing. To give a comparison my GTX Titan on windows doesnt even throw off as much heat when gaming.
[00:35] <ner0x> bekks: Unit193: Well it's definitely not dead. When I press in other areas around the screen its starts to work.
[00:35] <bekks> What do you mean by "press it"?
[00:38] <PhoenixSTF> Monkeytoe, hmmm that is weird
[00:38] <PhoenixSTF> Monkeytoe, have you tried the drivers strait from AMD?
[00:38] <ner0x> The screen itself. If I apply slight pressure to the lower part of the screen the pixel starts to work properly.
[00:38] <Monkeytoe> I have tried the card in a windows PC as well and at idle the fan speed on windows is much higher
[00:39] <Monkeytoe> I have not Phoenix
[00:40] <PhoenixSTF> they have 13.04 driver and a beta 13.6, I am currently on the  Stable lease, and it works gine
[00:40] <PhoenixSTF> *fine
[00:40] <PhoenixSTF> do not forget that the case is also a factor
[00:40] <Monkeytoe> I can visually tell / hear that the fan speed is < 1500 rpm
[00:40] <PhoenixSTF> trying in diferent PC case is not reliable if the have diferent airflow
[00:41] <Monkeytoe> on windows its typically around 24 - 2800 rpm
[00:41] <PhoenixSTF> maybe the driver is in low consumption
[00:41] <Monkeytoe> how do I check that?
[00:42] <PhoenixSTF> do not know m8, sorry
[00:42] <PhoenixSTF> but AMD can take a lot of heat
[00:42] <PhoenixSTF> I got the 7870
[00:42] <PhoenixSTF> and it works fine
[00:42] <PhoenixSTF> try the stable lease from AMD
[00:49] <Monkeytoe> im not worried about the card... im worried about my window AC having to kick on every 15 minutes because the video cards fan is hardly moving... I hooked a killawatt up to my windows pc when I had the 7950 installed and set the fan speed down to 10 percent, then up to 75 percent... it barely registered 6 watts of difference.... now with the room heating up so quickly im burning roughly .5 killowatt hours to keep the room cool when
[00:49] <Monkeytoe>  it would cost me .006 killowatt hours to keep the fan at speed
[00:51] <bekks> HEating up a room with 0.006 kW/h? That will takes ages, literally, due to the heat capacity of the air in your room.
[00:51] <Monkeytoe> exactly
[00:52] <bekks> So you need your fan as a heating, since winter is coming? :)
[00:53] <Monkeytoe> no the point is I am trying to increase the fan speed so I can prevent the room from heating up. Under windows the card barely throws off any heat on the desktop. Under Xubuntu 13.10 its throwing off more heat than my GTX Titan playing BF4
[00:53] <Monkeytoe> I can see that the 7950's fan is set way too low in Linux
[00:53] <bekks> Thats sounds like nonsense, sorry for being that frankly.
[00:54] <bekks> The amount of heat that has to be transported away from the heat source is independent of the RPM of the fan.
[00:55] <bekks> The only way to prevent your room from heating up is to prevent producing heat - not transporting it away into the room.
[01:01] <Monkeytoe> Transporting it away into the room allows the heat to dissipate and mix with the rest of the air in the room. Barely pushing the air away is causing a hot spot around the PC. The air is getting trapped under the table where the PC is currently at causing it to intake warmer air than it should. That is causing the temperature of the card to rise more than it should. By raising the fan speed it moves the air further into the room all
[01:01] <Monkeytoe> owing colder air to circulate into the front of the PC. This graphics card in my Windows PC does not throw off anywhere near the heat... nor does it warm the room up.
[01:02] <Monkeytoe> Clarification.. the exactly amd 7950 taken out of the linux pc and put into my windows pc does not throw off anywhere near the heat at desktop because the windows pc's drivers have the fan set much higher.
[01:03] <bekks> Every heat source warum up the room. Regardless of the existance of a fan.
[01:03] <bekks> *warms
[01:03] <bekks> Thats basic thermodynamics.
[01:04] <bekks> The energy radiated into the room does not magically disappears  - if so, you would be sitting inside a nexus - but, according to the rules of thermodynamics, always heats up the room.
[01:10] <Monkeytoe> The room is heating up because under Linux the card is running over 3 times hotter. I believe that is due to the fan speed not being correct.
[01:10] <Monkeytoe> Otherwise why h ave a fan on the card
[01:10] <Monkeytoe> We can all run them at 1 percent.
[01:11] <bekks> I cannot be dependant on the fan speed. The room warms up because of the zeroth law of thermodynamics.
[01:52] <xacto> hi people! is there any help here or is it on another channel?
[01:55] <xacto> question: after upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 the sound has diapeared.. tried a method I found on elgoog to recover it and it worked. but after a couple reboot, no sound again. and whatever I try fails. is there a secret receipe?
[01:57] <xacto> anyone had this issue?
[02:02] <GridCube> xacto, its the sound disabled or just the icon in the panel
[02:02] <GridCube> if its the panel icon then its a known bug
[02:02] <GridCube> if your sound actually disables then its a different issue
[02:03] <xacto> was icon first.. then the sound.. worked for a short time.. and now, nothing, no sound. no icon.
[02:04] <audrey> xu bun tu
[02:04] <xacto> i'll test something. thanks anyways. be back
[02:04] <xacto> that's right audrey ;)
[02:14] <xubuntu205> can someone help me?
[02:15] <xubuntu205> hello?
[02:15] <pleia2> !ask
[02:16] <pleia2> xubuntu205: ask away :)
[02:16] <xubuntu205> I am trying to install Xubuntu from a usb drive onto another usb drive on an ASUS Maximus formula motherboard and for some reason my computer will not boot from the usb device even though it is set to in the bios. Any suggestions? I really want to install Linux on this computer.
[02:18] <xubuntu205> It is almost like the computer does not recognize the Xubuntu software that is on my boot USB
[02:19] <pleia2> xubuntu205: what did you use to create the usb stick?
[02:19] <xubuntu205> I used my macbook pro and a program called UNetbootin along with a downloaded copy of the ISO
[02:20] <pleia2> !usb
[02:20] <pleia2> looks like there are a couple other options for macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[02:20] <pleia2> might try one of those
[02:42] <therickaman> hello all
[02:42] <therickaman> anyone here?
[02:42] <therickaman> I need some help.....bad.......
[02:45] <pleia2> ask away
[02:45] <therickaman> Geez
[02:45] <therickaman> I figured I'd be the only one
[02:53] <refarr> hello
[02:53] <refarr> anyone there?
[02:53] <pleia2> !ask
[02:54] <refarr> I just installed xubuntu 12.04.  When I clicked on terminal emulator it asked me to set a default.  I accidently clicked one that I hate.  How do I change it?
[02:54] <pleia2> click on the mouse menu and go to settings
[02:54] <pleia2> in settings you want to look for "preferred applications"
[02:55] <pleia2> "Terminal Emulator" is the one you want to change
[02:56] <refarr> mouse menu?  I clicked applications menu and then went to settings editor.  Is this correct?
[02:56] <pleia2> yes
[02:56] <pleia2> the menu with the mouse icon on it
[02:57] <thedanielmatt> anyone had an issue with likewise-open suddenly being a jerk? several of my servers join the domain/auth find, but I've got one that is giving me errors all of a sudden and can't figure it out
[02:58]  * pleia2 has never heard of likewise-open
[02:58] <refarr> Thank you so much for your help pleia2.  I found it.  I'll log out and make sure this works.  Thank you again.
[02:58] <pleia2> refarr: great, enjoy :)
[02:58] <thedanielmatt> its an AD authentication plug-in basically
[02:59] <pleia2> thedanielmatt: ah, that explains it :)
[03:19] <danielmatt> c'mon - I know someone here has used likewise ;)
[03:20] <Unit193> That one better than centrify?
[03:20] <danielmatt> i've had really good luck with it, except I've got one of my servers that quit authenticating and I can't rejoin it to domain
[03:20] <danielmatt> no idea what happened
[03:21] <danielmatt> centrify isn't free - right?
[03:21] <Unit193> dc used to be, at least.  No logs under /var/log/likewise/ or somesuch?
[03:21] <danielmatt> I've gotten a SASL error and an error saying the DC dropped the query
[03:22] <danielmatt> but everything I've thought of to check is correct (DNS, etc)
[03:22] <danielmatt> didn't see anything in event log of DC
[03:33] <danielmatt> Just found DC Express - looks more robust for sure
[04:18] <alexandros_c> hello is there anyway to get hibernate working in Xubuntu?
[04:46] <Guest62068> anyone have problems getting flux/redshift working?
[04:46] <Guest62068> my eyes are currently bleeding
[07:26] <mapps> hi folks
[07:26] <mapps> looks like my machines stuck at installng mysql-server .just saying mysql stop/waiting
[07:26] <mapps> not sure what to do?
[07:29] <elfy> mapps: try alt+tab - see if there is a term windows waiting for input
[07:29] <mapps> there isnt :(  im sshd in
[07:30] <elfy> no idea then - sorry
[07:30] <mapps> thanks anyway mate:D
[08:30] <adamt> hi
[11:35] <xubuntu660> ?
[11:35] <nv_> ?
[11:35] <xubuntu660> may someone come to off-topic?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !
[11:35] <xubuntu660> pls dont kill me
[11:36] <nv_> you can try other rooms such as #ubuntu-offtopic or try /list
[11:40] <xubuntu660> I am there
[11:40] <xubuntu660> "off-topic"
[11:40] <xubuntu660> oh, ok
[11:40] <xubuntu660> but it was about xubuntu
[12:09] <Mikk36> Hey
[12:10] <Mikk36> Is it possible to display an 16:9 aspect ratio on a 1024x768 display resolution?
[12:10] <Mikk36> I have a rather old plasma display, which has a panel resolution of 1024x768, even though it's a proper 16:9 tv
[12:11] <Mikk36> but outputting 1024x768 normally to it results in a stretched image
[12:11] <ObrienDave> that's usually how it works unless you use 'scaled' mode
[12:12] <Mikk36> the tv doesn't have any settings that would alter the overscan, so sending 1280x720 results in a bit too large of an image and invisible menu bar at top etc
[13:54] <PiiiRKO> nikolam: is it good to acces via tor?
[13:55] <ObrienDave> you don't want to have TOR set as an exit relay. that will get you banned from freenode
[13:58] <nikolam> PiiiRKO, well, most of the time I have to retry several times and there are around 6 addresses to target. they say 1) tor service of freenode was under ddos attack by some albanians 2) there is some kind of bug that limits number of connections
[13:59] <nikolam> for the rest - once, connected with tor, works ok. My connects/disconnects are my issue. Also I think tor holds connection better.
[14:00] <nikolam> That is why started using it for IRC, not for privacy.
[14:18] <jax23> hi
[14:18] <jax23> a little question
[14:19] <jax23> why firefox and xchat start automatically on boot on my xubuntu 12.10? i've checked in settings --> session and start but there aren't
[14:25] <ObrienDave> you need to close them before you turn off the computer or close everything and "save current session"
[14:26] <jax23> i'll try...thanks
[15:45] <xubuntu036> hello
[15:45] <xubuntu036> who can help me?
[15:46] <knome> xubuntu036, just ask your question and people will help if they can
[15:46] <xubuntu036> ok
[15:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> No one can help you if we don't know the issue.
[15:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's not like we have a Xubuntu guru that knows all, and sees all.
[15:47] <ObrienDave> it isn't? ;)
[15:47] <bgardner> Poisoned_Dragon: knome comes close...
[15:47] <knome> bah. :)
[15:48] <TheSheep> only when he has his tea to read the future from it
[15:48] <ObrienDave> LOL
[15:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[15:51] <xubuntu036> my xfce panel suddenly disappeared and I decided to restore it with " sudo ..... xfce4-panel", but it doesn't help. Please help me to restore the previous panel.
[15:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you try "xfce4-panel -r"
[15:56] <vito19> halo
[15:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> hola
[15:56] <xubuntu036> i'm newbie. can you please write in full command
[15:56] <xubuntu036> and i try
[16:07] <Hix> hi, anyone here got experience of the login loop in a VM [using 12.10]? renamed .Xauthority to .Xauthority-old and restarted but no luck
[16:08] <Hix> I'm stuck in dvorak in the vm too :/ though I can remotely ssh in
[16:35] <GridCube> Hix, tried to remove the .ICEauthority file as well?
[16:36] <GridCube> in any case if you login as guest both files should be respawned, so if you can not log in as guest removing them wont help
[16:44] <Hix> GridCube I didn't know about .ICE... I'll give that a shot. I did log in as guest, but it disn't seem to affect anything
[16:55] <Hix> seems the VM is borked now too, refusing to accept keyboard inputs
[16:55] <Hix> strange thing is I can login as me via ssh
[16:55] <Hix> no problems
[16:56] <GridCube> no idea
[16:56] <GridCube> tried to log in from a tty?
[16:57] <Hix> wouldn't know how to do that, I am medium pleb level :/
[17:03] <Hix> ah CTRL ALT F1/2/3/4...
[17:05] <GridCube> Hix, have you tried to log in using the guest account yet?
[17:07] <Hix> It worked ok earlier as guest yes GridCube, just tried TTY but then read about it and realised you have to be physically connected, which I'm not - explained the weirdncess of that little foray :)
[17:12] <Hix> yup - guest is fine - well apart from the fact that the keyboard has gone even worse, I can get to the desktop as guest
[17:24] <GridCube> hix then you could remove most of the non-essential files from your ~/ and youll be fine, just dont remove your work documents and the rest gets regenerated
[17:25] <Hix> added to the login loop woes - I've now got a serious case of wmware keyboard corruption that won't sort itself out. Looks like an sshfs backup and a reinstall of vmware :/
[17:30] <GridCube> no idea there
[17:30] <GridCube> sorry Hix
[17:31] <Hix> no worries, it seems that VMware is to blame here, thanks for your time dude
[18:20] <xubuntu208> hi, i'm installing xubuntu 13.1
[18:50] <octetcloud> how do I get a "middle button" mouse click with a touch pad? not being able to paste the current selection is a PITA
[18:53] <GridCube> octetcloud, press both click buttons to emulate it, or in some pads the top rightmost corner is middleclic
[20:28] <audrey> xu bun tu
[20:30] <xubuntu546> ciao a tutti!!!
[21:21] <knome> audrey, do you have a support question?
[22:36] <muhres> Hi guys. I have my Laptop connected via HDMI but the max. resolution i can get with xrandr oder GUI tools is 1600x900. The screen supports 1920x1080 - any idea how i can get the native resolution?
[22:51] <GridCube> muhres, what drivers are you using?
[22:52] <muhres> GridCube: hi, i am using the  proprietary AMD driver
[22:52] <GridCube> mmm
[22:53] <muhres> GridCube: i can switch back to the radeon driver if it's a problem, the AMD driver is lacking hardware accel. anyway
[22:53] <GridCube> mmm
[22:53] <GridCube> is that i dont know if ati has an individual settings manager
[22:55] <muhres> GridCube: not sure if it is wat you mean, but there is a driver tool (catalyst), but i cant change the res. there...
[22:55] <GridCube> oh i see
[22:55] <GridCube> yes that was what i meant
[22:55] <GridCube> so if its not there
[22:55] <muhres> GridCube: let me switch back to the radeon driver and see if i can set 1920x1080 there...
[22:55] <muhres> GridCube: be right back
[23:03] <muhres> uhm so i guss i need a reboot, be right back (again, ha)
[23:53] <mpmc> Random question folks, is it better to use xorg-server-video-ati or the AMD fglrx? What are the advantages? :p
[23:54] <TheSheep> !ati
[23:57] <mpmc> TheSheep: Thanks for the link :)