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alphacryptyes maybe placed just wrong00:00
alphacryptahhh need to get to the right side of the panel00:00
wafflejockAlso you can go to the kmenu and go to System->System Settings->Keyboard Shortcuts->Global Shortcuts->Kwin and then type Show Desktop and add a shortcut00:00
alphacryptit shows place of the panel I can place it on00:00
alphacryptand then it is at the left00:01
alphacryptlol very strange but seems to work hahaha00:01
wafflejockalphacrypt: yeah depends on what else is there it's finicky soetimes00:01
alphacryptohhh now the clock isnt centered00:01
alphacrypt:D00:01
wafflejockalphacrypt: yeah I have 3 panels :)00:02
alphacryptahhh very tricke can add spacers00:02
alphacryptwow what :D00:02
alphacryptnevery played with seems to make some fun :D00:03
wafflejockalphacrypt: heh yeah I have one in the bottom that's the regular stuff... then one up top on the right that hides with common apps00:03
wafflejockthen one up top right with time in it that hides and a little timer too00:03
alphacryptterrific00:03
alphacrypthahaha00:03
alphacryptand one in the middle :D00:03
alphacrypthahaha00:03
alphacryptsorry00:03
FloodBotK1alphacrypt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:03
wafflejockyeah it's the main reason I switched to KDE, customization crazy :)00:03
alphacryptwow never thought about using more then one panel00:04
wafflejocksome nice widgets for the desktop too00:04
alphacryptyes interesting feature00:04
alphacryptok got just to clean up my partition for backup00:06
alphacryptthanks for help00:06
alphacryptvery useful suggestions00:06
alphacryptahhh one more just want backup because not sure if it will work with shrinking the partition with kubuntu on it do you have som experiences?00:07
wafflejockalphacrypt: np... not sure about the shrinking partitions business though00:09
alphacryptno problem00:09
alphacrypta backup will sure do for whatever else00:09
alphacryptam excited if it will work knowing me hmmm :D00:10
alphacryptok bit cleaned00:20
alphacrypt> 80 GB to < 1000:20
alphacryptlets just try with clonezilla bye and thanks so far00:20
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Duel-TravisCan someone help me remove Kubuntu?03:23
Duel-Travis????03:25
manchickenDuel-Travis: What do you mean "remove"?03:26
Duel-Travismanchicken, I dont want KDE anymore?03:27
manchickenDuel-Travis: I take it you already try hitting Google?03:28
Duel-Travisyes03:28
manchickenI see this fella, and I'm wondering if you tried it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122242/how-do-i-remove-kubuntu-full-and-all-its-applications03:28
Duel-Travismanchicken, I installed it via apt-get install kde-full03:30
manchickenDuel-Travis: Did you just look at the link I posted?03:30
Duel-Travismanchicken, Im looking at it now03:30
manchickenK.03:31
Duel-Travis?03:32
manchickenFWIW, that was the "I'm Feeling Lucky" result on google for the terms "how do I remove kubuntu from ubuntu?"03:32
Duel-Travisao?03:34
Duel-Travismanchicken, I cant remove it via synaptic?03:41
manchickenDuel-Travis: The first link I sent you says that you could use the package manager to search for KDE packages and remove those.03:42
manchickenUnfortunately the package managers won't remove meta-packages.03:43
manchickenYou could try removing kdelibs and see what breaks, and then remove those, but you may miss a few things.03:43
Duel-Travismanchicken, This? http://superuser.com/questions/30112/kubuntu-to-ubuntu03:44
manchickenThat's not your GUI package manager though.03:46
Duel-Travismanchicken, I got no idea what ur talking about. I jsut wanna remove KDE.03:47
manchickenYeah, and I'm trying to help you understand that KDE is not *a* thing, it is a collection of things.03:47
manchickenIt is installed usually using meta-packages like kde-full, but it isn't as easy to remove since there are many things which could depend on it.03:48
manchickenThere are ways of getting most of it out using command line utilities, or by selecting each individual KDE package in Synaptic and removing them, but it is not as easy to remove KDE as it is to install it.03:50
manchickenThe same is true of any of the desktop environment suite meta-packages.03:50
Duel-Travishow do I uninstall KDE??03:58
rodniceLatest Kubuntu doesn't seem to let me scroll to see all the available hotspots in my area. Is there a solution for this?04:16
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lordievaderGood morning.06:40
excognachi lordievader zeserdaz i started to discuss an issue with Blueskaj. The problem is i cannot make a new user, neither with graphical interface, nor with Konsole (sudo adduser) : upon logging for the first time, root enforces new pwd for the new user. she types it in and it freezes.07:03
excognac*yesterday07:04
excognacthen I can't log on from text mode(Ctrl+AltF1), i have to reboot07:04
lordievaderexcognac: Phew, that doesn't sound nice. So you run "sudo adduser" and the computer freezes?07:09
excognaclordievader: no, it creats the new user. the laptop with kubuntu 12.04 freezes WHEN new user tries to log on: "password change is rquired, eforced by root" then the window with pwd and repeat pwd pops, while she types it freezes07:12
excognacsorry for the typos07:13
lordievaderexcognac: Ok, have you tried "sudo passwd <new user>"?07:14
lordievaderAfter the adduser command.07:14
lordievader?07:14
excognaclordievader: yes, same result upon first log on07:14
lordievaderAlso was adduser the one who asked questions? Room number, telephone number, etc?07:15
excognacor do i have to reboot, not just log out for the first log on of the new user?07:15
excognacyes it did ask those07:15
lordievaderexcognac: Ok, home-dir is created I suppose? Is the new user in /etc/passwd?07:15
excognaclordievader: i dont even have that folder07:17
lordievaderexcognac: Hmm, the adduser command finishes correctly?07:18
excognaclordievader: yes07:19
lordievaderLovely problem ;) Can you delete the user?07:19
excognacyes07:20
excognacwith ease07:20
lordievaderexcognac: Ok delete it and then create it with "sudo useradd <username>"07:20
excognacthe funny thing is i created before a user without any  problem, don't really remember if i did anything differently07:21
excognaclordievader: done.07:22
excognaclordievader: they i just su <newuser> asks for pwd, i press enter.: authentication failure07:23
lordievaderexcognac: Correct useradd doesn't create a password.07:24
excognaclordievader: ok, what'snext? sudo passwd <useR>?07:24
lordievaderexcognac: So now make a home-dir, edit /etc/passwd to the correct home-dir.07:25
lordievaderAlso make the new user the owner of the home-dir "sudo chown <user>:<user> <home-dir>&&sudo chmod 700 <home-dir>07:26
excognaci make the home with sudo mkdir /home/<user>07:26
excognac?07:26
lordievaderexcognac: Yes, and then the chown and chmod commands.07:27
excognaclordievader: done07:28
lordievaderexcognac: Also the /etc/passwd step?07:29
excognaclordievader: oops, i forgot that.07:29
excognaclordievader: her home displayed correctly in etc/passwd, so i didn't edit it07:31
lordievaderexcognac: Ok, lets create a passwd: sudo passwd <username>07:32
excognaclordievader: done07:33
excognacshall i try now su <user>07:33
lordievaderexcognac: Yes, lets see if it works.07:33
excognacyes it dropped me to a single $ prompt07:34
lordievaderexcognac: Default shell is probably still /bin/sh, you can change that in /etc/passwd (once you have sudo rights again) to /bin/bash.07:35
lordievaderOr your shell of choice.07:35
excognaclordievader: ok, done. now after su i'm in <user>@<computer>:/home/<mine>07:37
lordievaderThat's a bash like prompt.07:38
excognacas i changed to bash. but now new user is administrator (sudoer)?07:39
lordievaderexcognac: It shouldn't be, try it "sudo ls", you'll probably get an error that <username> is not in the sudoers group.07:41
excognaclordievader: exactly that's it07:41
excognacshall i try to log on with her?07:41
lordievaderexcognac: First try to make a file in your home dir.07:42
lordievaderThe new home dir, with the new user.07:42
excognaclordievader: i just nano whatever.txt, succesfully created07:44
lordievaderexcognac: Correct user and group too?07:44
excognachow do i find it out?07:44
lordievaderls -l07:45
excognacyes07:45
ss_hazethis morning is great07:46
lordievaderexcognac: Ok, fire up lightdm (or kdm) and try to log in ;)07:46
excognaclordievader: without reboot right? just log out then log in07:46
lordievaderexcognac: Yes.07:46
ss_hazegood morning07:47
lordievaderHey ss_haze, how are you?07:48
ss_hazeI'm good07:48
ss_hazeI couldn't found how to make select button with value in php so I created like 100 pages07:48
ss_hazebut in the end07:49
ss_hazeif it works it works07:49
ss_haze..07:49
ss_haze+ deletion of every single category item made me rethink that I'm doing it right way07:49
lordievaderss_haze: Shall we continue in #kubuntu-offtopic?07:50
ss_hazeI have school07:50
ss_hazesoon07:50
ss_hazemust go07:50
excognaclordievader: wow this was funny: it started Fail session: "gnome". they clicked the down arrow, chose plasma workspace and i could log on as new user. thanks it works fine now07:51
lordievader:)07:52
excognaclordievader: i never use gnome session, this is kde and it kicks ass, i don't even remember if i have any gnome-based package07:52
excognaclordievader: however plasma crashed after i logged bakc, backtrace is here http://pastebin.kde.org/pudzyrjqo07:54
lordievaderexcognac: As the normal user or the new one?07:55
excognaclordievader: as the normal07:55
lordievaderexcognac: I cannot make a lot of sense of that log.07:55
lordievaderexcognac: Reboot and see if the problem persists.07:55
excognaclordievader:  ok07:58
excognacbrb07:58
excognaclordievader: no crash now08:02
excognaclordievader: are we done or shall ireport this on launchpad? as gui should work fine08:02
lordievaderexcognac: OK, good. Does it crash when you log out, login as the new user, log out again and login as the previous user?08:02
lordievaderexcognac: I get the feeling the bug report would be very vague.08:03
excognaclordievader: i have to go now to work, but i'll find it later today, if you are interested i'll let you know. what info i should include in the bug report?08:04
excognaclordievader: bug report->i mean the gui creation of the new user, not the crash08:04
lordievaderexcognac: That is what I mean. I have no idea.08:04
lordievaderexcognac: Both are vague to me.08:05
excognaclordievader: :( i really want to help to improve kubuntu. gtg now, lata08:06
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rwc2i've logged into kubuntu 13.04 via ctrl+alt+f1 but my files under home aren't present, even as sudo12:49
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BluesKaj'Morning all12:58
rwc2i've logged into kubuntu 13.04 via ctrl+alt+f1 but my files under home aren't present, even as sudo13:02
rwc2BluesKaj, good morning13:02
BluesKajrwc2.  alt+F2 . ~/home13:04
BluesKajor ~/ rather ,13:05
rwc2BluesKaj, can you elaborate?  i userd alt+f2, logged in, went to /home/user/Downloads and the files are not there still13:07
rwc2if encrypted home folder, will they not show up here13:07
BluesKajdo you have a desktop ?13:09
rwc2no13:09
rwc2cant get x, in fact this is guest39248 from the other day13:09
BluesKajso you're in shell ,  startx ?13:11
rwc2startx doesnt work, spent hours in here trying that13:12
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rwc2BluesKaj,  ok im in x on a different user13:15
rwc2home directory has 'access-your-private-data.desktop'13:15
BluesKajdon't know much about encryption and the login at lightdm still loops ?13:16
rwc2and readme.txt only13:16
rwc2BluesKaj, still loops13:16
BluesKajthen you can copy the read only afaik13:16
rwc2can you elaborate13:17
BluesKajcopy to another partition with am OS on it , but they will remain encrypted13:18
BluesKajyou need the encryption key13:19
rwc2'access-your-private-data.desktop' +'has no type='13:19
rwc2i have the key13:19
rwc2i just need it to ask for it13:19
rwc2http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=9251013:22
BluesKajrwc2. IK think if you explain your situation in more detail and what your trying to do, rather than just posting an error and URL , in #ubuntu , you'll get a response13:34
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Duel-Travishow do I remove kubuntu completly!?17:46
BluesKajDuel-Travis. why ?17:50
ezra-sDuel-Travis, Kubuntu is the whole distro, you just format the partition and it's gone17:51
Duel-Travisezra-s, I mean KDE17:51
BluesKajor you can remove kubuntu desktop and replace it with another desktop , Duel-Travis17:51
crowellkubuntu-desktop is the metapackage17:52
Duel-TravisBluesKaj, How can I do so?17:52
Duel-TravisI do this, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu and get an error.17:52
ezra-sDuel-Travis, you are not familiar with apt-get, apt-cache?17:52
crowellsudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop17:52
crowellthen, sudo apt-get autoremove17:52
BluesKajI asked you why first Duel-Travis , what's the problem ?17:52
Duel-TravisBluesKaj, I dont like it? I wanna try somethin different17:53
crowellDuel-Travis: look at what I just posted17:53
ezra-sDuel-Travis, you don't really need to remove it to try something different17:53
crowellthat is what you need to do to remove it17:53
BluesKajwhy don't you like it , pls expalin17:53
Duel-TravisBluesKaj, Because I dont like it?17:53
BluesKajcrowell. have you no loyalty ? :)17:53
crowellBluesKaj: I love KDE, but it is not for everyone17:54
Duel-Traviscrowell, Ive done that already, Does it remove it from the desktop session manager17:54
ezra-sBluesKaj, he's dense17:54
crowellDuel-Travis: it should17:54
ezra-syou can go wild and remove kde*17:55
BluesKajDuel-Travis. so what are you going to replace the desktop with ?17:55
Duel-TravisBluesKaj, I still have Unity. But im thinking xfce17:55
BluesKajheh , well have fun17:55
crowellwhat don't you like about kde? it would make it easier to give an alternative recommendation17:55
Duel-Traviscrowell, Its not what I wanted it to be, still the same as windows basicall17:56
BluesKajunity uses compiz , a real hog on older pcs17:56
crowellyou want it to be like windows?17:56
ezra-sDuel-Travis, that's not true, kde is miles over windows or anything similar to it17:57
Duel-TravisBluesKaj, My pc isnt old. lol17:57
ezra-sas much as I like unity that is much more similar to windows than kde right now17:57
Duel-Travisezra-s, Why do all the Desktops I look at look very similar?17:57
BluesKaj;like wwindows , far from it , maybe more familiar than the other DEs but definitely not "like Windows "17:57
ezra-sDuel-Travis, something called ergonomy17:58
Duel-Travismhm17:58
ezra-syou need functionaly stuff, not things noone will understand how to use17:58
BluesKajezra-s. yes , espaecially windows 8.117:58
Duel-Traviswot17:58
ezra-sI haven't tried windows 8.1 much, saw it on a store, didn't look like desktop to me17:58
ezra-slooked more tablet like interface17:59
BluesKajit is17:59
ezra-ssomething noone will use at work, that's for sure17:59
ezra-ssoon, you will see microsoft pulling back a lot on this move17:59
ezra-sone thing is you experiment with desktop users and people who buy laptops, since you have monopoly over the distribution of those with your OS, but work, offices, companies, workflow.. that's very different18:00
ezra-smicrosoft is going to pull their pants down, quickly18:00
ezra-sreturning to kde, kubuntu18:02
ezra-skde is ideal for work18:02
ezra-sit remains using all personalizations that have always made it characteristic18:03
ezra-snewer versions are very stable18:03
ezra-syou can still tell specific windows programs to open in specific desktops, you can customize it and make it look like any other thing you like18:03
ezra-sit takes a little time if you don't look default layout to make it suit your needs18:04
ezra-ss/don't look/don't like/18:04
BluesKaji've used kde longer as a desktop than any other including windows ..however there's no accounting for taste so unity will no doubt, survive18:09
ezra-sunity has an amazing search in the dash18:12
ezra-sin the rest I think they screwed up over-simplifying18:12
ezra-sspecially settings for all kinds of things18:13
BluesKajdash doesn't impress me much18:13
ezra-seven after simplification when you dist-upgrade chances are your desktop is going to get screwed up somehow for incompatibilities18:13
ezra-sBluesKaj, I used it at first for work, searching previously found/used files in it is a matter of 3-4 or less keystrokes18:14
ezra-shaven't seen anything as good in kde or anywhere else18:14
BluesKajwell , I'm a home user so file searches aren't real important to me18:15
BluesKajI have all the important stuff in quicklaunch18:17
ezra-syeap, I was talking about my case specifically, at work, opening files from the dash18:26
ezra-sfiles I had already opened once though :P18:26
ezra-sI haven't managed to use nepomuk for something though, maybe my fault18:27
BluesKajnepomuk is disabled here , as is akonadi , don't use the PIM apps18:29
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fransuvahi, i want to update my motherboard's bios. i want to update it from my usb drive. how can i make a bootable usb disk to update my bios??19:00
BluesKajfransuva. go to the motherboard maker's site and look for firmware updates/upgrades19:02
fransuvaBluesKaj: thanks for your reply. i downloaded latest bios but i need a bootable usb. i cant install wmware because i need a bios update and i want to learn other linux distributions.19:03
BluesKajfransuva. maybe you just need to enable virtual OS in the bios19:05
fransuvaBluesKaj: yes but i couldnt find it in bios19:06
BluesKajhow old is your machine ?19:06
lordievaderfransuva: Is the bios update really necessary?19:06
fransuva2 years old19:06
fransuvai'm using msi gd53 motherboard19:07
BluesKajthen virtuality is probly available , I'm sure of it19:07
lordievaderfransuva: I had it fail on me once. Needed a new motherboard since you cannot get new bios chips. Though nowadays they have some security build in.19:07
fransuvai got an error like that: VT-X/AMD-V19:07
lordievaderfransuva: That is a bios setting. Enable the virtual-something in the bios settings.19:08
fransuvaso cant i install virtualmachines to my pc? :(19:08
fransuvabut there is no bios setting in my bios19:08
lordievaderfransuva: Then disable the setting in vmware.19:08
fransuvaokay, i'm checking it out.19:09
fransuvastill vt-x/amd-v problem19:10
fransuvait says your system isnt ready to virtualisation.19:10
fransuvaactivate vt-x/amd-v settings19:11
lordievaderfransuva: With the setting disabled in the virtual machine properties?19:12
fransuvayes.19:12
fransuvai'm using virtualbox19:12
lordievaderfransuva: Is your guest 64bit?19:13
fransuvayes i'm using 64 bit pc19:14
fransuvaand my downladed iso's are too19:14
fransuvai didnt download 32 bit versions19:14
fransuvashould i?19:14
crowellfransuva: you really just need to enable vt-x19:15
lordievaderfransuva: Yes. For 64bit you need VT-X/AMD-V capabilities. Something your cpu/motherboard doesn't support (it seems).19:15
crowellhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=155470.019:15
crowellpeople there says it does19:15
crowellwhat is your cpu?19:15
lordievaderOh, well than find the option and enable it ;)19:15
fransuvaintel i5 2500k @4200Mhz19:15
crowellthat can certainly do vt-x then19:16
lordievaderAgreed.19:16
fransuvaok i'll restart my pc and i'll search hopelessly :)19:16
fransuvai'll come back in 5 mins.19:16
fransuvathan i'll report situation.19:17
fransuvasee ya19:17
fransuvahi again, i couldnt find bios settings again19:29
fransuvai tried to update my bios from usb19:29
fransuvai couldnt it19:30
fransuvai'll check it again19:31
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mjaykHay is there a chat / offtopic channel here23:11
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westmiwhy is the time on my desktop switching?23:31
westmithis is the 2nd time i had to fix it23:32
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nv_could be the BIOS23:44

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