/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/21/#ubuntu-quality.txt

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pittiGood morning06:21
pitti"Jenkins Fixed - trusty-adt-unity-firefox-extension 4"06:30
pittiincredible!06:30
pittijibel: ^06:30
pittijibel: but the number of other failures still makes me weep..06:30
jibelpitti, does it pass for real? :)06:30
pittijibel: hm, good point -- there's an exception but it still exits with 006:32
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DanChapmanmorning all07:07
Noskcajhey DanChapman07:08
pittijibel: I think the other day you mentioned something about "gpg: requesting key 428D7C01 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com" (which e. g. breaks adt-trusty-crash)07:56
pittijibel: you said installing ubuntu-keyring should help?07:57
jibelpitti, yes, debian-keyring07:58
pittioh, that07:58
pittijibel: I'll test adding that to test depends, and upload if it fixes it07:58
jibelpitti, when a package does an apt-get source something, gpg generates a warning if the keyring is not installed07:59
jibelwhich is different from the crash error I think07:59
jibelpitti, I fixed _something_ and next (or next next depending on when snakefruit pulls source code) run should see 3depict and choreonoid appearing08:15
jibel(/me won't tell what something is and hides in shame)08:15
jibelpitti, actually I was scanning <release>-proposed/var/lib/apt/lists/...Sources08:17
jibelbut not all Sources :(08:17
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jibelthey would appear if they were publish-able08:28
jibelwe'll see with next new package08:28
pittijibel: hmm, run-adt-test -sU crash succeeds here08:40
pittiI have ubuntu-keyring installed, but not debian-keyring08:41
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pittijibel: ah, silly me, didn't test the -proposed version08:44
pitti-Restrictions: needs-root allow-stderr08:44
pitti+Restrictions: needs-root08:45
pittithere we go08:45
* pitti puts it back08:45
pittijibel: as email notifications seem to work for the two of us, can we re-enable them for uploaders as well again?08:46
pittijibel: I relayed some failures over IRC, but it'd be better to have proper emails08:46
jibelpitti, unless they restored lp credentials on the new server, I cannot08:56
jibelI'll verify but it was not done yesterday08:56
pittijibel: argh, so that's it; thanks08:56
pittijibel: crash fix uploaded08:57
jibelpitti, and networking is still slow and publishing of new jobs fails with an error 50008:57
pittia.w.e.s.o.m.e.08:57
jibeland I feel powerless, I've been asked to not touch anything08:58
jibelpitti, so basically the fix for "doesn't trigger on 1rst upload" is 1 character long09:00
jibel*09:01
pittijibel: ugh -- I can try to review that huge patch when I have a free week09:01
pittijibel: i. e. you can push it to bzr, but not roll it out?09:01
* jibel hates 1 character bugs09:01
pittijibel: I find that they often take hours or days to find, and then 5 seconds to fix09:02
jibelpitti, I can update adt/britney interface, it is pulled automatically on snakefruit09:03
jibelpitti, what I cannot do is fix jenkins in the lab09:03
pittijuju deploy ci-lab09:05
jibelright, that's the theory :)09:06
jibelpitti, FYI I investigated a solution based on pkglab to skip and report uninstallable packages. Now I need to find how to best integrate it with adt-britney09:16
jibelbecause edos-debcheck analyze all the archive which is not what we want and pkglab is interactive09:16
jibelso I think I'll generate a script for pkglab each time we calculate the impact set, feed pkglab with it, and skim the output to remove packages that are not installable09:17
jibelit must be processed in batch because loading the archive into pkglab is very expensive09:18
pittijibel: ah, haven't tried pkglab yet, but sounds promising09:18
pittijibel: cjwatson set up something like that on the archive server the other day, with yet a different name09:18
jibelpitti, the fix worked and 3depict started09:20
pittijibel: ah, it was chdist09:26
jibelpitti, ah useful, I didn't know this tool, I always create apt trees manually then use rootdir=09:28
jibelI'm on 3depict failure09:29
slickymastermorning all10:13
pittijibel: crash/amd64 success, but i386 failed due to installed vs. available kernel version (http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/trusty-adt-crash/5/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console); I'll retry in half a day or so10:21
pittijibel: eek, crash just propagated to trusty; britney failure?10:22
jibelpitti, not britney, checking the logs10:38
jibelpitti, there is a transient state where result is pass10:44
jibel09:45:05.log:I: [Thu Nov 21 09:46:29 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for crash_7.0.3-3ubuntu2: RUNNING10:44
jibel10:08:14.log:I: [Thu Nov 21 10:09:43 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for crash_7.0.3-3ubuntu2: PASS10:44
jibel10:34:13.log:I: [Thu Nov 21 10:36:08 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for crash_7.0.3-3ubuntu2: FAIL10:44
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pittifginther: I wanted to retry dialer-app tests on maguro, but https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/dialer-app/maguro-tests/+merge/193774/comments/453486 did not actually run on maguro; any idea?12:59
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balloonsjibel, gonna be able to make http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22063/community-1311-quality-autopilot-image-testing/?13:58
jibelballoons, of course I will, I booked a seat :)13:59
balloonsjibel, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpjpsnolhdibv2d9as0s29k4?authuser=0&hl=en13:59
jibelballoons, thanks14:00
fgintherpitti, the maguros don't stay up long enough to be reliable in CI due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/phablet-tools/+bug/124916214:12
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1249162 in android-tools (Ubuntu) "Devices lose adb connection after phablet-flash loop" [Undecided,New]14:12
pittifginther: ah, and tests don't block on an available runner?14:12
pittifginther: thanks for the heads-up14:12
fgintherpitti, I can manually run you MP and post the results to the MP14:13
pittifginther: but shoudln't they block? otherwise it's way too easy to slip in upgrades like Mir which break on Maguro?14:13
fgintherpitti, the tests do wait for an available runner, but all of our runners are bricked after a few hours14:13
fginther:-(14:13
pittiah14:13
pittifginther: QA lab is a big pile of unhappyness ATM :/14:13
fgintherdon't remind me :-p14:13
pittifginther: it's not that urgent, I was mostly curious how much better or worse the new mir upstream got for these tests14:14
pittias I have some doubts that we actually run all our tests before we land new Mir versions14:14
fgintherpitti, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/3097/14:16
pittifginther: cheers!14:17
senanDanChapman,Balloons; Good Eve !!!16:09
DanChapmansenan just the man! i've just this second branched your updates. How weird :-)16:10
senanDanChapman, Great :)16:11
senanDanChapman, checking my mails all the time for your review comments ;)16:11
DanChapmansenan sorry it's taken a while, it vUDS so taking a while to get through things16:12
senanDanChapman, thats fine.. no problem :)16:13
DanChapmansenan, you've deleted everything in the branch again :-S16:17
DanChapmansenan maybe not hmmm whats happening16:18
DanChapmansenan ahhh fixed, i was in your branch from last time. heh :-)16:19
senanDanChapman, Ohhh16:19
DanChapmansenan i'm getting 3 failing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6454045/ are they all passing for you?16:31
senanDanChapman, yea16:32
DanChapmansenan right ok, do they pass using autopilot-sandbox-run?16:34
senanDanChapman, Sorry power cut here :( ...what is sandbox run16:40
dkesselevening16:41
senanDanChapman, yea  3 tests are failing when I tried sandbox run16:43
DanChapmansenan it's part of autopilot. SO instead of 'autopilot run DiskUsageAnalyser' you do 'autopilot-sandbox-run DiskUsageAnalyser' and you don't lose control of your desktop while it runs, if you want to see the display use -X it uses xephyr to display the test running.16:43
senanwhat does that means16:43
senanok16:43
DanChapmanlol senan right so we need to figure out why they are failing, sandbox run runs the tests alot faster at the speed we should really get on the desktop (but we don't :-( )16:44
senanDanChapman, but then why the tests are passing when run normally16:46
DanChapmansenan they aren't passing normally for me16:46
senanDanChapman, here everthing looks good16:48
senanDanChapman, got any clue ?16:53
cgoldbergDanChapman, you are getting faster speed when running with sandbox-run?16:55
DanChapmansenan, I'm looking into it16:55
senanYes.. its a lot faster16:55
DanChapmancgoldberg, massivley faster ap-gtk has always been dog slow to get going on desktop16:55
cgoldbergDanChapman, that's interesting.. is thios on a desktop with X, or with Mir on device?16:56
DanChapmancgoldberg desktop with X16:56
cgoldbergDanChapman, it just uses Xvfb i believe, so it launches a full X stack for the run.. it shouldn't be any faster.  i'll take a look.. maybe there is something we can add to the default runner from it :)16:57
dkesselballoons, is there another qa related session?16:58
balloonsdkessel, so on your device question, my brain is frazzled I can't remember. I don't believe there is planned support16:58
balloonsdkessel, you might be interested in this: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22113/core-1311-touch-emulator/16:58
dkesselballoons, yeah that's what i've heard so far, too...16:58
senanyes it users xvfb..when I first tried, i was not able to run because Xvfb was missing16:59
balloonsthere is one session after the plenary which is happeningnow16:59
balloonsbut none are quality specific sessions16:59
balloonsafter that @ 1900 we'll do summaries and I have one to give on everything that happened this week16:59
dkesselok :)17:01
dkesselthat touch emulator idea sounds good17:01
DanChapmancgoldberg, that would be awesome :-) For example asserting a window title on desktop = 0m55.416s and sandbox = 0m2.438s, MASSIVE difference :-)17:01
senanDanChapman, for me its 14.502s vs 47.492s17:04
cgoldbergeither way thats crazy...  need to see why17:11
cgoldberg55 secs is nearly time enpough to make coffee :)17:11
DanChapmancgoldberg, this seems to be the problem thats causing the difference http://paste.ubuntu.com/6454287/ it doesnt happen in the sandbox17:20
DanChapmanballoons, I see one of your work items for ubiquity is docs/video/tutorial added to wiki, once I've finished up the alpha 1 pieces, would it be an idea for me to create a wiki/tutorial about the current tests, or was you just planning to put you autopilot video thingy you did there?18:34
balloonsDanChapman, you are probably the #1 person to write tutorials, etc for this18:36
balloonsI wasn't going to just throw the autopilot video at it18:36
balloonsI planned on doing something specific, but very light and simple, leaving the details in writing18:36
DanChapmanballoons, well i can take that work item off you if you want, and sort all that out. 1 less item for you as well :-)18:37
balloonsDanChapman, +1 no complaints from me, thank you!18:38
balloonsLetozaf_, hello18:40
balloonsNoskcaj, morning to you!18:40
Noskcajhey balloons18:40
Letozaf_balloons, Hi18:43
balloonsLetozaf_, since you just so happened to be around, and Victor just shared these in our session, heh, I'll point out there's new tests for music :-)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?field.tag=needs-autopilot-test18:46
Letozaf_balloons, :-) thanks I will take a look and write some :)18:47
balloonsNoskcaj, what's new in your world my friend? 1 month left of schooling eh?18:49
Noskcajnew: linux australia have said they'd give me money to finish my PC. school: A bit less than that, plus term 5, where we play games and call it school18:50
NoskcajAnything interesting happening to you?18:50
balloonsNoskcaj, that's great news!18:50
Noskcaj:)18:51
balloonsthe pc part.. and well, heck, the gaming too18:51
balloonsNoskcaj, just wrapping up the vUDS stuff here. And DanChapman has me thinking about hackfests again18:51
NoskcajMaybe we should have another testdrive hackfest, with people actually coming18:52
dkesselballoons, I was thinking about this the other day... is there any consumable calendar for QA events yet?18:52
* DanChapman pops his head up18:52
balloonsdkessel, we chatted briefly about this.. DanChapman mentioned wanting an ical sync18:52
* dkessel too18:52
balloonsI like the idea, I just wonder how to make it easy for people to add things18:53
dkesselwell... google calendars can be shared..18:53
balloonsmost of the new stuff we're talking about will end up on the wiki or something.. I suppose me manually curating a calendar can't be horrid18:53
balloonsi do it anyway in my own calendar18:53
balloonsI guess I'll make that part of the plan ;-)18:54
dkessel:)18:54
balloonsNoskcaj, on the testdrive hackfest, yes.. I'd like to see specific folks who are interested come and do a hangout at a specific time18:54
dkesselthat might make it easier for some to take time off of other stuff in advance...18:54
balloonswe'd coordinate it beforehand so we can ensure the time works for interested folks18:54
Noskcajyeah18:55
NoskcajI'll be free most of january, other than my MOTU application18:55
Noskcajhey TheDrums18:56
Noskcajoops18:56
Noskcajhey thomi18:56
Noskcajstupid tab button18:56
knomethe button did nothing wrong, it was a problem between the keyboard and the chair18:56
dkesselbyebye, got to go. looking forward to hear about future events!18:57
Noskcajknome, I like to be able to blame something other than myself18:57
DanChapmanballoons, can we embed iframes on the wiki pages?18:57
knomei'm just presenting you the facts :)18:57
balloonsNoskcaj, sounds like a plan19:00
balloonsDanChapman, I'm not sure19:00
balloonsyou would want to embed it?19:01
balloonsthe calendar I mean?19:01
balloonsor ?19:01
DanChapmanballoons, google calendar can be exported as an iframe and it syncs when the calendar updates. I know some wiki's you can embed them, but i can't find anything about it in the help docs :-(19:02
balloonsDanChapman, ahh.. well I can look after this session19:03
balloonsor https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax19:03
balloonsor we put it on a page somewhere and link to it.. whatev's19:03
balloonsthe calendar is probably the important piece19:04
TheDrumsNoskcaj: Howdy.19:16
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robotfuelballoons: are you around?22:38

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