[06:21] <pitti> Good morning
[06:30] <pitti> "Jenkins Fixed - trusty-adt-unity-firefox-extension 4"
[06:30] <pitti> incredible!
[06:30] <pitti> jibel: ^
[06:30] <pitti> jibel: but the number of other failures still makes me weep..
[06:30] <jibel> pitti, does it pass for real? :)
[06:32] <pitti> jibel: hm, good point -- there's an exception but it still exits with 0
[07:07] <DanChapman> morning all
[07:08] <Noskcaj> hey DanChapman
[07:56] <pitti> jibel: I think the other day you mentioned something about "gpg: requesting key 428D7C01 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com" (which e. g. breaks adt-trusty-crash)
[07:57] <pitti> jibel: you said installing ubuntu-keyring should help?
[07:58] <jibel> pitti, yes, debian-keyring
[07:58] <pitti> oh, that
[07:58] <pitti> jibel: I'll test adding that to test depends, and upload if it fixes it
[07:59] <jibel> pitti, when a package does an apt-get source something, gpg generates a warning if the keyring is not installed
[07:59] <jibel> which is different from the crash error I think
[08:15] <jibel> pitti, I fixed _something_ and next (or next next depending on when snakefruit pulls source code) run should see 3depict and choreonoid appearing
[08:15] <jibel> (/me won't tell what something is and hides in shame)
[08:17] <jibel> pitti, actually I was scanning <release>-proposed/var/lib/apt/lists/...Sources
[08:17] <jibel> but not all Sources :(
[08:28] <jibel> they would appear if they were publish-able
[08:28] <jibel> we'll see with next new package
[08:40] <pitti> jibel: hmm, run-adt-test -sU crash succeeds here
[08:41] <pitti> I have ubuntu-keyring installed, but not debian-keyring
[08:44] <pitti> jibel: ah, silly me, didn't test the -proposed version
[08:44] <pitti> -Restrictions: needs-root allow-stderr
[08:45] <pitti> +Restrictions: needs-root
[08:45] <pitti> there we go
[08:45]  * pitti puts it back
[08:46] <pitti> jibel: as email notifications seem to work for the two of us, can we re-enable them for uploaders as well again?
[08:46] <pitti> jibel: I relayed some failures over IRC, but it'd be better to have proper emails
[08:56] <jibel> pitti, unless they restored lp credentials on the new server, I cannot
[08:56] <jibel> I'll verify but it was not done yesterday
[08:56] <pitti> jibel: argh, so that's it; thanks
[08:57] <pitti> jibel: crash fix uploaded
[08:57] <jibel> pitti, and networking is still slow and publishing of new jobs fails with an error 500
[08:57] <pitti> a.w.e.s.o.m.e.
[08:58] <jibel> and I feel powerless, I've been asked to not touch anything
[09:00] <jibel> pitti, so basically the fix for "doesn't trigger on 1rst upload" is 1 character long
[09:01] <jibel> *
[09:01] <pitti> jibel: ugh -- I can try to review that huge patch when I have a free week
[09:01] <pitti> jibel: i. e. you can push it to bzr, but not roll it out?
[09:01]  * jibel hates 1 character bugs
[09:02] <pitti> jibel: I find that they often take hours or days to find, and then 5 seconds to fix
[09:03] <jibel> pitti, I can update adt/britney interface, it is pulled automatically on snakefruit
[09:03] <jibel> pitti, what I cannot do is fix jenkins in the lab
[09:05] <pitti> juju deploy ci-lab
[09:06] <jibel> right, that's the theory :)
[09:16] <jibel> pitti, FYI I investigated a solution based on pkglab to skip and report uninstallable packages. Now I need to find how to best integrate it with adt-britney
[09:16] <jibel> because edos-debcheck analyze all the archive which is not what we want and pkglab is interactive
[09:17] <jibel> so I think I'll generate a script for pkglab each time we calculate the impact set, feed pkglab with it, and skim the output to remove packages that are not installable
[09:18] <jibel> it must be processed in batch because loading the archive into pkglab is very expensive
[09:18] <pitti> jibel: ah, haven't tried pkglab yet, but sounds promising
[09:18] <pitti> jibel: cjwatson set up something like that on the archive server the other day, with yet a different name
[09:20] <jibel> pitti, the fix worked and 3depict started
[09:26] <pitti> jibel: ah, it was chdist
[09:28] <jibel> pitti, ah useful, I didn't know this tool, I always create apt trees manually then use rootdir=
[09:29] <jibel> I'm on 3depict failure
[10:13] <slickymaster> morning all
[10:21] <pitti> jibel: crash/amd64 success, but i386 failed due to installed vs. available kernel version (http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/trusty-adt-crash/5/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console); I'll retry in half a day or so
[10:22] <pitti> jibel: eek, crash just propagated to trusty; britney failure?
[10:38] <jibel> pitti, not britney, checking the logs
[10:44] <jibel> pitti, there is a transient state where result is pass
[10:44] <jibel> 09:45:05.log:I: [Thu Nov 21 09:46:29 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for crash_7.0.3-3ubuntu2: RUNNING
[10:44] <jibel> 10:08:14.log:I: [Thu Nov 21 10:09:43 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for crash_7.0.3-3ubuntu2: PASS
[10:44] <jibel> 10:34:13.log:I: [Thu Nov 21 10:36:08 2013] - Collected autopkgtest status for crash_7.0.3-3ubuntu2: FAIL
[12:59] <pitti> fginther: I wanted to retry dialer-app tests on maguro, but https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/dialer-app/maguro-tests/+merge/193774/comments/453486 did not actually run on maguro; any idea?
[13:58] <balloons> jibel, gonna be able to make http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22063/community-1311-quality-autopilot-image-testing/?
[13:59] <jibel> balloons, of course I will, I booked a seat :)
[13:59] <balloons> jibel, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpjpsnolhdibv2d9as0s29k4?authuser=0&hl=en
[14:00] <jibel> balloons, thanks
[14:12] <fginther> pitti, the maguros don't stay up long enough to be reliable in CI due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/phablet-tools/+bug/1249162
[14:12] <pitti> fginther: ah, and tests don't block on an available runner?
[14:12] <pitti> fginther: thanks for the heads-up
[14:13] <fginther> pitti, I can manually run you MP and post the results to the MP
[14:13] <pitti> fginther: but shoudln't they block? otherwise it's way too easy to slip in upgrades like Mir which break on Maguro?
[14:13] <fginther> pitti, the tests do wait for an available runner, but all of our runners are bricked after a few hours
[14:13] <fginther> :-(
[14:13] <pitti> ah
[14:13] <pitti> fginther: QA lab is a big pile of unhappyness ATM :/
[14:13] <fginther> don't remind me :-p
[14:14] <pitti> fginther: it's not that urgent, I was mostly curious how much better or worse the new mir upstream got for these tests
[14:14] <pitti> as I have some doubts that we actually run all our tests before we land new Mir versions
[14:16] <fginther> pitti, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/3097/
[14:17] <pitti> fginther: cheers!
[16:09] <senan> DanChapman,Balloons; Good Eve !!!
[16:10] <DanChapman> senan just the man! i've just this second branched your updates. How weird :-)
[16:11] <senan> DanChapman, Great :)
[16:11] <senan> DanChapman, checking my mails all the time for your review comments ;)
[16:12] <DanChapman> senan sorry it's taken a while, it vUDS so taking a while to get through things
[16:13] <senan> DanChapman, thats fine.. no problem :)
[16:17] <DanChapman> senan, you've deleted everything in the branch again :-S
[16:18] <DanChapman> senan maybe not hmmm whats happening
[16:19] <DanChapman> senan ahhh fixed, i was in your branch from last time. heh :-)
[16:19] <senan> DanChapman, Ohhh
[16:31] <DanChapman> senan i'm getting 3 failing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6454045/ are they all passing for you?
[16:32] <senan> DanChapman, yea
[16:34] <DanChapman> senan right ok, do they pass using autopilot-sandbox-run?
[16:40] <senan> DanChapman, Sorry power cut here :( ...what is sandbox run
[16:41] <dkessel> evening
[16:43] <senan> DanChapman, yea  3 tests are failing when I tried sandbox run
[16:43] <DanChapman> senan it's part of autopilot. SO instead of 'autopilot run DiskUsageAnalyser' you do 'autopilot-sandbox-run DiskUsageAnalyser' and you don't lose control of your desktop while it runs, if you want to see the display use -X it uses xephyr to display the test running.
[16:43] <senan> what does that means
[16:43] <senan> ok
[16:44] <DanChapman> lol senan right so we need to figure out why they are failing, sandbox run runs the tests alot faster at the speed we should really get on the desktop (but we don't :-( )
[16:46] <senan> DanChapman, but then why the tests are passing when run normally
[16:46] <DanChapman> senan they aren't passing normally for me
[16:48] <senan> DanChapman, here everthing looks good
[16:53] <senan> DanChapman, got any clue ?
[16:55] <cgoldberg> DanChapman, you are getting faster speed when running with sandbox-run?
[16:55] <DanChapman> senan, I'm looking into it
[16:55] <senan> Yes.. its a lot faster
[16:55] <DanChapman> cgoldberg, massivley faster ap-gtk has always been dog slow to get going on desktop
[16:56] <cgoldberg> DanChapman, that's interesting.. is thios on a desktop with X, or with Mir on device?
[16:56] <DanChapman> cgoldberg desktop with X
[16:57] <cgoldberg> DanChapman, it just uses Xvfb i believe, so it launches a full X stack for the run.. it shouldn't be any faster.  i'll take a look.. maybe there is something we can add to the default runner from it :)
[16:58] <dkessel> balloons, is there another qa related session?
[16:58] <balloons> dkessel, so on your device question, my brain is frazzled I can't remember. I don't believe there is planned support
[16:58] <balloons> dkessel, you might be interested in this: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22113/core-1311-touch-emulator/
[16:58] <dkessel> balloons, yeah that's what i've heard so far, too...
[16:59] <senan> yes it users xvfb..when I first tried, i was not able to run because Xvfb was missing
[16:59] <balloons> there is one session after the plenary which is happeningnow
[16:59] <balloons> but none are quality specific sessions
[16:59] <balloons> after that @ 1900 we'll do summaries and I have one to give on everything that happened this week
[17:01] <dkessel> ok :)
[17:01] <dkessel> that touch emulator idea sounds good
[17:01] <DanChapman> cgoldberg, that would be awesome :-) For example asserting a window title on desktop = 0m55.416s and sandbox = 0m2.438s, MASSIVE difference :-)
[17:04] <senan> DanChapman, for me its 14.502s vs 47.492s
[17:11] <cgoldberg> either way thats crazy...  need to see why
[17:11] <cgoldberg> 55 secs is nearly time enpough to make coffee :)
[17:20] <DanChapman> cgoldberg, this seems to be the problem thats causing the difference http://paste.ubuntu.com/6454287/ it doesnt happen in the sandbox
[18:34] <DanChapman> balloons, I see one of your work items for ubiquity is docs/video/tutorial added to wiki, once I've finished up the alpha 1 pieces, would it be an idea for me to create a wiki/tutorial about the current tests, or was you just planning to put you autopilot video thingy you did there?
[18:36] <balloons> DanChapman, you are probably the #1 person to write tutorials, etc for this
[18:36] <balloons> I wasn't going to just throw the autopilot video at it
[18:36] <balloons> I planned on doing something specific, but very light and simple, leaving the details in writing
[18:37] <DanChapman> balloons, well i can take that work item off you if you want, and sort all that out. 1 less item for you as well :-)
[18:38] <balloons> DanChapman, +1 no complaints from me, thank you!
[18:40] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello
[18:40] <balloons> Noskcaj, morning to you!
[18:40] <Noskcaj> hey balloons
[18:43] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hi
[18:46] <balloons> Letozaf_, since you just so happened to be around, and Victor just shared these in our session, heh, I'll point out there's new tests for music :-)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?field.tag=needs-autopilot-test
[18:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, :-) thanks I will take a look and write some :)
[18:49] <balloons> Noskcaj, what's new in your world my friend? 1 month left of schooling eh?
[18:50] <Noskcaj> new: linux australia have said they'd give me money to finish my PC. school: A bit less than that, plus term 5, where we play games and call it school
[18:50] <Noskcaj> Anything interesting happening to you?
[18:50] <balloons> Noskcaj, that's great news!
[18:51] <Noskcaj> :)
[18:51] <balloons> the pc part.. and well, heck, the gaming too
[18:51] <balloons> Noskcaj, just wrapping up the vUDS stuff here. And DanChapman has me thinking about hackfests again
[18:52] <Noskcaj> Maybe we should have another testdrive hackfest, with people actually coming
[18:52] <dkessel> balloons, I was thinking about this the other day... is there any consumable calendar for QA events yet?
[18:52]  * DanChapman pops his head up
[18:52] <balloons> dkessel, we chatted briefly about this.. DanChapman mentioned wanting an ical sync
[18:52]  * dkessel too
[18:53] <balloons> I like the idea, I just wonder how to make it easy for people to add things
[18:53] <dkessel> well... google calendars can be shared..
[18:53] <balloons> most of the new stuff we're talking about will end up on the wiki or something.. I suppose me manually curating a calendar can't be horrid
[18:53] <balloons> i do it anyway in my own calendar
[18:54] <balloons> I guess I'll make that part of the plan ;-)
[18:54] <dkessel> :)
[18:54] <balloons> Noskcaj, on the testdrive hackfest, yes.. I'd like to see specific folks who are interested come and do a hangout at a specific time
[18:54] <dkessel> that might make it easier for some to take time off of other stuff in advance...
[18:54] <balloons> we'd coordinate it beforehand so we can ensure the time works for interested folks
[18:55] <Noskcaj> yeah
[18:55] <Noskcaj> I'll be free most of january, other than my MOTU application
[18:56] <Noskcaj> hey TheDrums
[18:56] <Noskcaj> oops
[18:56] <Noskcaj> hey thomi
[18:56] <Noskcaj> stupid tab button
[18:56] <knome> the button did nothing wrong, it was a problem between the keyboard and the chair
[18:57] <dkessel> byebye, got to go. looking forward to hear about future events!
[18:57] <Noskcaj> knome, I like to be able to blame something other than myself
[18:57] <DanChapman> balloons, can we embed iframes on the wiki pages?
[18:57] <knome> i'm just presenting you the facts :)
[19:00] <balloons> Noskcaj, sounds like a plan
[19:00] <balloons> DanChapman, I'm not sure
[19:01] <balloons> you would want to embed it?
[19:01] <balloons> the calendar I mean?
[19:01] <balloons> or ?
[19:02] <DanChapman> balloons, google calendar can be exported as an iframe and it syncs when the calendar updates. I know some wiki's you can embed them, but i can't find anything about it in the help docs :-(
[19:03] <balloons> DanChapman, ahh.. well I can look after this session
[19:03] <balloons> or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax
[19:03] <balloons> or we put it on a page somewhere and link to it.. whatev's
[19:04] <balloons> the calendar is probably the important piece
[19:16] <TheDrums> Noskcaj: Howdy.
[22:38] <robotfuel> balloons: are you around?