[13:57] <happyaron> hi everyone, a question, who should create the hangout ?
[13:58] <seb128> happyaron, I just did (the track leads does that), https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpj1rpnctlhe2prk9a6sok98?authuser=0
[13:58] <seb128> happyaron, please share the link with those that should join
[13:58] <jkerihuel> seb128, hi is this the AD trusty track?
[13:59] <seb128> jkerihuel, you are one hour too early but otherwise yes
[13:59] <seb128> jkerihuel, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/2013-11-21/display with times in UTC
[13:59] <jkerihuel> oh timezone mismatch
[13:59] <jkerihuel> ok :-)
[14:00] <happyaron> seb128: ok
[14:00] <seb128> happyaron, do you know if anyone else is going to join the hangout?
[14:00] <seb128> is there anyone from Kylin coming?
[14:00] <happyaron> seb128: there are people said they'd like to, but not sure if they would really come here.
[14:00] <happyaron> seb128: including Kylin people
[14:01] <seb128> can you ping them with the hangout url if you know to contact them?
[14:01] <happyaron> pinging
[14:01] <seb128> would be nice to have 1-2 more people in there of the discussion ;-)
[14:01] <happyaron> yeah, :)
[14:03] <seb128> oh, hey tedg¡
[14:03] <seb128> !
[14:03] <seb128> how did I do the reverse!?
[14:03] <tedg> seb128, Spanish locale?  ;-)
[14:03] <seb128> tedg, want to join the ibus/fcitx discussion? ;-)
[14:03] <tedg> seb128, I know nothing about that, I was watching client-2 more closely :-)
[14:04] <seb128> :-(
[14:04] <seb128> happyaron, so, anyone coming?
[14:05] <happyaron> seb128: few people said they got the time wrong, so basically no atm, :(
[14:05] <seb128> happyaron, should we start with the 4 people we have?
[14:05] <happyaron> I'm fine
[14:06] <seb128> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1-y9H8io-DNJtuL5jAaZnTuWlMYx8iJ2e2WskKbs2l0s/edit
[14:06] <seb128> http://youtu.be/IJzlxTGQZTY
[14:06] <seb128> ^ stream
[14:39] <seb128> happyaron, ?
[14:56] <gQuigs> is anyone else going to be able to start the hangout for activedirectory or should I figure out how to do it?
[15:02] <gQuigs> alright, apparently I need to do a bunch of verification to get this working...
[15:02] <gQuigs> can anyone create a hangout on air?
[15:03] <jkerihuel> presumably
[15:03] <seb128> yes, sorry, previous session overrun a bit
[15:03] <seb128> gQuigs, jkerihuel, others who want to join: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpieo3pau403q9rso9bqu6q4?authuser=0
[15:04] <gQuigs> seb128: ty
[15:06] <ballock_> can I have the link again?
[15:06] <seb128> those who want to join the hangout, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpieo3pau403q9rso9bqu6q4?authuser=0
[15:06] <seb128> I'm going to share the stream url when we start the session
[15:06] <seb128> which should be soon, waiting for everyone to be there
[15:07] <seb128> http://youtu.be/M-jR2z0d15I
[15:07] <seb128> ^ stream url
[15:09] <tjaalton> okok
[15:48] <pmatulis> a lot of people want a GUI, so ideally both CLI and GUI
[16:03] <seb128> tkamppeter: hey, the hangout url is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpif9l42jj4i6vp4ksel8o2g?authuser=0
[16:08] <seb128> is anyone there for the session/want to join the hangout/ask questions...?
[16:08] <tsdgeos> i may want to ask questions
[16:08] <tsdgeos> but my interwebs are severely broken today
[16:08] <seb128> tsdgeos, want to join the hangout?
[16:08] <tsdgeos> so i'll do it from here and not the hangout
[16:09] <seb128> hum, k
[16:09] <seb128> the hangout is a bit empty
[16:10] <seb128> tsdgeos, well, your choice, ask on IRC if you prefer
[16:10] <tsdgeos> it's jsut that i tried joining a hangout before
[16:10] <tsdgeos> and i dropped each 5 seconds
[16:10] <seb128> ok, no problem
[16:10] <seb128> just ask there ;-)
[16:10] <tsdgeos> it's not fun either for me nor for the people that is in the hangout/whatching
[16:11] <seb128> http://youtu.be/D900NtQ83to
[16:11] <seb128> ^ stream
[16:11] <seb128> tsdgeos, ok, ask way, otherwise we have no content
[16:11] <seb128> e.g waiting for you ;-)
[16:12] <tkamppeter_> tsdgeos, it seems that there is no one else who could be bored by you talking on IRC, simply go ahead.
[16:12] <tsdgeos> :D
[16:12] <tsdgeos> so we're going with cups, right?
[16:13] <seb128> tsdgeos, do you know about other options?
[16:14] <tsdgeos> seb128: no, but then there's something that i don't understand, because https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/PDFRenderer says "Not directly to the printer, to the printing system and Poppler or MuPDF will convert the PDF into the printer's language. " but cups can print PDF, so i don't udnerstand why we need a conversion there
[16:18] <seb128> tsdgeos, not sure if you listen to the stream/if that answers your question?
[16:19] <tsdgeos> yes, listening to answer
[16:19] <seb128> I guess there is a lag between in the youtube stream compared to the live/hangout
[16:19] <tkamppeter_> Yes, we will use CUPS, but not install the whole CUPS package, only the daemon itself, the needed filters, no web interfac, no docs.
[16:19] <tsdgeos> ok, so we use poppler to render to the printer language
[16:20] <tkamppeter_> We will also try to start CUPS on demand, when the user calls the print dialog, and stop it when the queues are empty.
[16:20] <tkamppeter_> So CUPS will need a minimum of resources, but we do not need to rewrite spooling and getting a job overview.
[16:22] <tkamppeter_> The PDF renderer converts the incoming PDF into the printer's native format, controlled by cups and cups-filters. As renderer we use Poppler as it is already on the mobile device for screen display of PDF.
[16:23] <tkamppeter_> ghostscript will not be on the mobile device, as on mobile we do not have apps which send PostScript.
[16:26] <seb128> other questions?
[16:28] <tsdgeos> thanks guys!
[16:28] <tsdgeos> sorry i could join the hangout
[16:28] <seb128> thanks for the question ;-)
[16:28] <seb128> no worry
[18:01] <tkamppeter_> seb128, can you start the channel?
[18:02] <seb128> tkamppeter_, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpjegq6dstnhlg39q782mqho?authuser=0
[18:02] <seb128> ^ those who want to join
[18:07] <seb128> session is cancelled
[18:07] <seb128> we are lacking key people/didn't have much to discuss