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gaughenhangout for the Openstack Charms discussion in 6 minutes - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpiclleqpkk3em73g9b7olcc?authuser=0&hl=en13:54
jamespagehttp://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-servercloud-1311-openstack-charms14:01
rbasakLive now.14:05
zulwhat about vnc support?14:25
Azendale_vudsWhat would the process for getting a cloud from precise to trusty look like? Would you just build a second cloud?14:26
jamespageAzendale_vuds, answer to that coming in a second14:28
Azendale_vudsI've noticed that the Juju gui looks like it has stuff for bundles in it. What about having a a standard bundle people can download for HA openstack? (And maybe another for non-HA openstack?)14:34
smoseri've said it before... but one way or anohter, i/we need to make sure we hae a solution for "magically get ubuntu images"14:37
smoser(ie, 'example-sync': https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/simplestreams/example-sync)14:38
zulsmoser:  it seems to me that should live in the charms14:39
jamespagesmoser - new charm IMO - see bottom of pad14:44
smoseri guess separate charm isn't so bad due to having otherwise solved the density issue14:44
smosernice work jamespage14:44
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hallyn_i'll just chat here.  i'm just in the hangout to avoid delay15:02
gaughenhere's the hangout - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpitpjq7kd2seu64ef2c1en0?authuser=0&hl=en15:05
hallyn_i'm here15:05
hallyn_i look thinner there15:05
gaughenha15:06
hallyn_testing of the openstack libvirt driver?15:09
hallyn_or of core libvirt?15:10
hallyn_zul: after february?15:11
rbasakARM support is coming to libvirt soon, if it's not there already.15:12
rbasak(ARM KVM support, that is)15:12
nuclearbobI've been waiting on that for a bit15:12
rbasakIt's being worked on actively by Linaro15:12
nuclearbobthat's good to know15:12
rbasakWe (both Linaro and Ubuntu) will probably want to land Openstack patches, too.15:13
rbasakAre there any CI requirements or implications for this?15:13
smoserzul, are there ehterpad notes ?15:16
hallyn_I intend to join those calls fwiw15:16
hallyn_@zul++15:17
smoserfwiw, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docker-nova-hkg is more information on the lxc containers and openstack.15:18
zulhallyn_:/smsoer  https://github.com/zulcss/nova15:18
hallyn_trying to do arm64-user support15:20
hallyn_(just qemu-user-static)15:21
hallyn_well, it gets us emulation of arm6415:21
hallyn_right15:21
jamespagerbasak, probably - upstream openstack are going to deprecate remove any driver that does not have sufficient testing15:22
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stgraberhallyn_: got a URL for me?16:04
hallyn_stgraber: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpik2e2nhfn8e1e078ge9ju0?authuser=0&hl=en16:05
gaughensmoser, "those guys" I was thinking was the maas folks, but maybe it's the juju team.16:25
gaughenbut I'll leave it to you to convert my "those guys" to the right ones ;-)16:25
hallyn_am i being loud?16:27
smoseri thought it might be you, hallyn_16:28
smoserdo other people hear that ?16:28
smoserstgraber is only person not muted now.16:28
hallyn_smoser: i don't hear anthing16:29
smosergaughen, well, i think its really neither. and this is really only a "needs root" case. i think16:29
sarnoldfrom the youtube view, everyone's volumes seem fine16:33
smoserthat is really odd.16:34
smosersudo lxc-create -t ubuntu-cloud -n source-trusty-amd64 -- --release=trusty --arch=amd64 --stream=daily16:38
vilasmoser: I was bitten by this one indeed, I found --stream but had suddenly to special case trusty16:39
smoservila, its a default. yo ucould special case it the other way16:40
smoser(and use --stream=daily always)16:40
vilasmoser: you mean released == daily as soon as released appears ? I'll never run into daily > released ?16:41
smoserthere are dailies for always.16:42
smoserand they're always >= released.16:42
smoserwe continue building cloud images and then promote them to 'released'. thats just how we keep them fresh.16:42
vilaright, so, my use case is more released than daily indeed, I can fallback to daily if released is not available (which I do right now), but thanks for the idea anyway16:43
smoserthe dailies are stable.16:43
smoserafter release.16:43
smoserwe don't just go changing things willy nilly.16:44
smoseri'd suggest they're more stble than -proposed16:44
* vila nods16:44
vilaautopkgtest++16:53
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jamespagehey nwl17:58
jamespagegaughen will post the hangout URL shortly17:58
jamespagehttp://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1311-servercloud-1311-ceph17:58
jamespagepad17:58
jamespagehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-1311-ceph17:58
gaughenhttps://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpio51jkto38daj32nilrmuc?authuser=0&hl=en17:58
gaughenthere's the hangout17:58
jamespagenwl, ^^17:59
pmatuliswill cephfs become officially supported/stable in Firefly?18:17
jamespagepmatulis, have your question18:18
pmatulisthank you for your answer neil18:25
avoineQUESTION: is btrfs will still be not recommended for ceph in trusty?18:28
jamespageyes18:28
jamespagexfs18:28
avoineok, thanks18:29
sarnoldany zfs tests?18:32
jamespagenot until its in the kernel18:32
sarnoldah. never going to happen. :) thanks.18:33
bjfyes we are benchmarking btrfs .. we have not been evaluating it's stability18:33
bjfgaughen, ^18:33
pmatuliswhat is the roadmap for ceph-deploy?  is it to become a more sophisticated tool?  currently it is fairly limited and not suggested for complicated setups18:33
gaughenthanks bjf18:33
jamespageany other questions?18:35
jamespage...18:36
jamespage..18:36
jamespage.18:36
sarnoldthanks18:37
avoinebjf: the result of those benchmark are public?18:57
bjfavoine, they will be once we get our act together :-)18:59
bjfavoine, right now we are making sure we are doing the benchmarking repeatable and periodic (and are comparing the things people want us to compare)18:59
avoineok19:00
bjfavoine, there will be a link on http://kernel.ubuntu.com that will point to them19:01
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avoinebjf: great, I'll be watching that. Thanks19:04

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