[00:00] <warasab> hi, what do i type in terminal to set language to italian? (language packages are already installed)
[00:00] <warasab> language/locale
[00:02] <warasab> hi, what do i type in terminal to set language to italian? (language was correct before, dont know why it changed)
[00:03] <seanz> IncrediblePony: So you get this error as soon as you boot from USB?
[00:03] <seanz> The installer can't even start?
[00:03] <IncrediblePony> nope
[00:03] <IncrediblePony> no UI or anything, just a boot:_ console
[00:03] <warasab> anybody?
[00:03] <seanz> IncrediblePony: Dang. We need to find someone who is knowledgeable about that part of the installation process.
[00:04] <zykotick9> warasab: you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" <warning untested/unknown>
[00:04] <alisultanvi> how to update a specific version of ubuntu?
[00:04] <seanz> warasab: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/red-hat-31/changing-default-language-from-command-line-438947/
[00:04] <warasab> thanks
[00:04] <seanz> warasab: setlocale looks like it might help in this case.
[00:04] <zykotick9> seanz: i doubt red-hat info will apply to ubuntu... just sayin'.  warasab
[00:04] <IncrediblePony> seanz: well I'm trying a different way to format my USB atm
[00:04] <IncrediblePony> lets see if it works :P
[00:05] <seanz> zykotick9: Yeah, I should vet links moreso than I just did.
[00:05] <warasab> what is keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[00:05] <alisultanvi> sudo update-manager -d , how to specify the version?
[00:05] <berryciderspider> ctrl alt t
[00:05] <seanz> warasab: This is probably a better link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[00:06] <warasab> thanks
[00:06] <alisultanvi> help my
[00:07] <seanz> IncrediblePony: How are you formatting it? From what I understand, you can create a USB installer with cp on the command line pretty easily.
[00:07] <alisultanvi> good bay
[00:07] <seanz> There are instructions "around the Internet" for such things.
[00:07] <mandla> hello.
[00:07] <mandla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6450973/
[00:07] <seanz> IncrediblePony: I would test the USB stick on a different computer if possible. See if it works.
[00:13] <kludge_> anyone have problems with redhsift?
[00:14] <zykotick9> kludge_: are you finding, it isn't doing anything? <that was my issue, when i tried it>
[00:15] <kludge_> it crashes whenever I start it
[00:15] <kludge_> just a heads up Im using xubuntu
[00:15] <zykotick9> kludge_: different issue then ;)  best of luck.
[00:15] <kludge_> haha
[00:15] <kludge_> damn, Ill check the xubuntu channel
[00:16] <DCManning> Good evening everyone
[00:17] <ghostman> hello guys i need your help please, i had an installation of ubuntu 12.04 on my computer, yesterday i decided to update to 12.10.
[00:17] <DCManning> Ghostman, go to the Ubuntu download page, they still have 12.04 LTS on the download options
[00:18] <DCManning> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:18] <ghostman> hello guys i need your help please, i had an installation of ubuntu 12.04 on my computer, yesterday i decided to update to 12.10. at the reboot now is asking me a login and password in a console mode, i do not understand what kind of login is exactly, a part that there is no way to have an access to a console
[00:18] <DCManning> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:19] <ghostman> Thank you DCManning can you please help me with my question?
[00:19] <DCManning> Ghostman, you will need to burn a copy of the 12.04 LTS ISO to a cd by going to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[00:19] <DCManning> the installer will talk you through the process
[00:19] <ghostman> so you mean to reinstall again?
[00:20] <DCManning> Unfortunately that is what I had to do when i tried that on my other Linux PC
[00:20] <ghostman> but used to be already installed and working (with data also)
[00:20] <DCManning> Is this for a laptop or for a phone?
[00:20] <ghostman> is a desktop
[00:21] <DCManning> if you are jumping from one OS to another, unfortunately, it means sometimes you have to lose your old files
[00:21] <ghostman> well, i'm not jumping, i just updated!
[00:21] <DCManning> I am not sure if there is another way, I can try to find someone for you who is a bit more knowledgeable than I am
[00:22] <ghostman> thank you anyway, i will keep posting the initial question, thank you
[00:24] <ghostman> hello guys i need your help please, i had an installation of ubuntu 12.04 on my computer, yesterday i decided to update to 12.10. at the reboot now is asking me a login and password in a console mode, i do not understand what kind of login is exactly (or related to), a part that there is no way to have an access to a console, what i should do?
[00:26] <Daemoen> lo all.  we have (unfortunately) several 11.04 (ok, alot actually) instances... im attempting to install postgresql v9.  Postgres provides debs and a repository, but unfortunately, natty is no longer supported (yeah, im aware).  In this case, would it be better to assume using the lucid packages, or the precise packages to install postgres 9 on natty ?
[00:28] <MaxHayman> hey
[00:28] <mcc> hi, so??i've got a ubuntu 12.04 machine (VM) here??i would like it to be running "whatever's newest" (13.10")? am i reading this right that really, the way to do this is have update-manager upgrade me 12.04->12.10,12.10->13.04,13.04->13.10? Three updates in a row?
[00:28] <zykotick9> !11.04 | Daemoen it isn't supported in #ubuntu either
[00:29] <mcc> When I first opened update manager it was offering to let me upgrade to 14.04, which sounds??wrong D:
[00:29] <Daemoen> zykotick9, ubottu:  im not asking you guys to support it
[00:29] <mcc> but then i hit "check" and it took away that option.
[00:29] <ment0s> hello
[00:29] <MaxHayman> Hey I'm writing a shell script. I was wondering if anyone knew where to get some dummy maillog files to test my script it working!
[00:29] <Daemoen> im asking which version 11.04 would be closer to,  id wager 10.04, as 11.04 should be able to satisfy any version dep that 10.04 could have, but not necessarily the case with 12, as that could have newer kernel and package versions
[00:30] <Daemoen> due to dependency, id wager that i should in theory be able to use 10.04 packages just fine on 11.04, but as I am not an Ubuntu engineer by trade, wanted to simply confirm the theory.
[00:30] <ment0s> i have installed xorg related deb package which offers new version of xorg, but i have accidently kept the old version, now this message is not appearing when trying to install it again, could someone tell me how to bring it back ?
[00:32] <ment0s> or how to show eula of that package again ?
[00:33] <Spyro> Anyone know of a decent desktop zooming accessibility program?
[00:33] <Spyro> My eyesight's starting to go bad
[00:36] <berryciderspider> I can't transfer an iso from android to ubuntu 'not supported'
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, What ubuntu release, I have had transfer problems at times, not an iso, generally media but found mount remount worked...etc.
[00:41] <berryciderspider> wilee-nilee:  on 12.04
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, Can you plug a usb flash into the android?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, Is the android even showing in ubuntu, and how are you trying to transfer?
[00:43] <berryciderspider> when I plug phone into comp, it shows with purple header 'is digital audio devic', wants to open with rhythmbox
[00:43] <berryciderspider> I can move photos, mp3s across, but not this iso
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, In 12.04 I used a ppa to get mtp and show the android files.
[00:43] <berryciderspider> mtp?
[00:44] <berryciderspider> the issue is I don't have access to the internet on my desktop, and tethering isn't working
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, mtp is Media Transfer Protocol look it up if needed.
[00:46] <Tavor> Anyone having trouble running Skype on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> berryciderspider, My reference to mtp was just for being seen at all in 12.04, which you seem to have.
[00:47] <berryciderspider> ah right
[00:47] <reisio> Tavor: you?
[00:49] <Tavor> I am having issue with it, yes. It has been working just fine until today. Now it just loads and loads, never getting past that point
[00:49] <reisio> Tavor: what version?
[00:49] <Tavor> reisio, 4.2
[00:50] <reisio> Tavor: can you be more specific?
[00:51] <Tavor> reisio: I launch the Skype application, and then the usual window pops up showing that it's trying to connect, but it's stuck doing that
[00:52] <reisio> you said that already
[00:52] <Tavor> http://imgur.com/DrTvkda
[00:52] <Tavor> That's what I see^
[00:52] <reisio> and this is an image of what you already described, twice
[00:52] <reisio> can you be more specific about the version?
[00:53] <moppy> i am going to guess it's skype 4.2 for linux
[00:53] <reisio> oh yeah?
[00:53] <reisio> let's guess the solution, then
[00:54] <reisio> press CTRL+M+A+G+I+C :p
[00:54] <reisio> that'll probably work
[00:54] <Tavor> This specific? http://imgur.com/vkrb5y3
[00:55] <Boneheads1999> Could someone please help me?  I have Ubuntu 12.04.  I want the Unity interface but don't have it... where do I download it or get it?
[00:55] <moppy> Boneheads1999, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[00:55] <reisio> Tavor: yes, 4.2.0.11 is more specific than 4.2
[00:56] <moppy> Boneheads1999, I assume this is a headless machine?
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, What did you install to start with?
[00:56] <reisio> Tavor: run ls -a ~/ | grep -i skype
[00:56] <reisio> Tavor: or ls ~/.config | grep -i skype
[00:56] <Boneheads1999> wilee-nilee I bought this HP Pavillion a610e pre-installed with Ubuntu at a Thrift Shop.
[00:56] <Boneheads1999> moppy I have no idea what a headless machine is
[00:56] <reisio> Tavor: try temporarily moving what you find, to see if its presence is part of the problem
[00:57] <moppy> Boneheads1999, does it boot to a desktop, or a command line terminal?
[00:57] <Boneheads1999> boots to a desktop
[00:57] <Boneheads1999> moppy boots to a desktop
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Was this thrift shop a computer shop where this was installed for users?
[00:58] <Boneheads1999> no
[00:58] <moppy> Boneheads1999, if it's standard ubuntu that will be unity. can you screen shot the desktop so we can see which it is? (or you mght be able to change it on the login screen by clicking the icon at the right of the login name)
[00:58] <Boneheads1999> moppy sure one sec
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, So somebody else's install for their use that you don;t know?
[00:58] <Boneheads1999> wilee-nilee yeah :P
[00:59] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: ;) i like where your going with the above idea.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, I would ren=move it and install your own,.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> remove*
[00:59] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: +1
[00:59] <moppy> it's a good idea, so long as the machine works
[00:59] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: yeah kinda agree with others here though it might be worth just playing with it as is first for the heck of it
[00:59] <moppy> there's usualyl a reason a computer winds up in a thrift shop though
[00:59]  * zykotick9 wonders how Boneheads1999 got the password...
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> autologin and free rootkits
[01:00] <Boneheads1999> zykotick9 I had to do like a root access type-deal
[01:00] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: lol
[01:00] <Boneheads1999> it was fairly difficult
[01:00] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: a headless machine is just when a OS has no desktop interface installed
[01:01] <Boneheads1999> one second.. I'm attempting to upload a desktop screenshot
[01:01] <zykotick9> wafflejock: technically, a headless machine is one without a monitor
[01:01] <Boneheads1999> moppy Here's a screenshot of my desktop: http://imgur.com/3WHctxM
[01:02] <fishduck> got a tar.tz and I have no idea how to install the software. Any general guidelines? Can't find any instructions
[01:02] <fishduck> oh.. there was a setup script
[01:02] <zykotick9> fishduck: don't...
[01:03] <fishduck> zykotick9: there is no general way to install stuff like that I presume?
[01:03] <moppy> Boneheads1999, yea that isnt unity ... :-) could reinstall ... otherwise "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" then reboot and select unity on the login screen
[01:03] <wafflejock> zykotick9: fair enough
[01:03] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | fishduck
[01:03] <Boneheads1999> ok
[01:04] <moppy> btw guys which DE is that? I don't recognise it immediately
[01:04] <fishduck> ubottu: I'll remember that. I've got a gui installer now though. But where do you chose to install software in general? it gives no suggestions
[01:04] <zykotick9> moppy: nor do i.  (but that isn't surprising)
[01:05] <fishduck> darn.. second time ubo'ttu fools me
[01:06] <wafflejock> moppy: yeah feel like it could be XFCE but the panel makes me feel like no... not sure
[01:07] <BuntuFuntu> Moppy: If we are referring to Boneheads1999's image, that looks like XFCE to me but like wafflejock said, the panel dont seem right.
[01:07] <moppy> this could be a new quiz show
[01:07] <geekmasterflash> moppy: Hey, I am not sure if you remember me from earlier, but have you ever heard of an xorg error that could totally freeze a system?
[01:07] <zykotick9> moppy: Name That DE/WM ;)
[01:08] <moppy> they click a few buttons in the theme manager then "name that DE" for prizes. The more non-standard they make it, the more money you win
[01:08] <BuntuFuntu> I prefer Unity myself.
[01:08] <geekmasterflash> BuntuFuntu: I prefer rabid badgers
[01:10] <zykotick9> moppy: "I'll take awesome for $1000 alex"
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> "what is badware" alex
[01:14] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: :p (but i do find it funny)
[01:14] <wafflejock> KDE
[01:14] <wafflejock> mmm
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I would not even use a OS a friend built. ;)
[01:15] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: nor i
[01:16] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: s/use/trust/
[01:23] <coop999> hello.   fresh re-install of 13.10 after upgrade went bad.   Now Cheese will not work.  Webcam works with skype.   Any ideas?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> coop999, Just the cheese install no other messing around and does not work? Whay the re-install as well?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Why*
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> ah bad upgrade I see now
[01:33] <neverwearcondoms> why are niggers dark brown?
[01:33] <lolcat> Hello
[01:34] <lolcat> Can I hibernate if my swap if half the size of my ram? If I am using less than half?
[01:34] <coop999> re-install necessary because my nividia drivers got so messed up it was unrepairable.  SYstem 76 team recommended re-install from LiveUSB.   So my home directory was saved (thankfully),  and reinstall went smooth.   No rebuilding and tweaking.  Had to reinstall all my packages.  (6 months of tweak down drain).  Two goofy issues found so far.   Cheese starts shows my face.  but won't snap picture and hangs when try to do video.   AND #2.  
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> lolcat, equal swap to ram or slightly larger is the norm.
[01:34] <coop999> Sorry @ wilee-nilee
[01:35] <fishduck> !checkinstall
[01:35] <lolcat> wilee-nilee: I don't want to waste 16GB of my SSD, I never use more than 2gb ram
[01:35] <lolcat> wilee-nilee: With caching I am using 6GB of ram
[01:35] <lolcat> I am not using any swap
[01:36] <lolcat> I have never experienced using more than 16MB of ram
[01:36] <lolcat> err, swap
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> lolcat, I can only give you what the norm is, this would be for another who knows more really, had you given this extra info up front we would not be communicating. ;)
[01:37] <zykotick9> lolcat: i discovered, after making an error with my swap size, that "yes" it is possible - BUT it typically doesn't work.  until i made swap equal to ram, i couldn't reliably hibernate.
[01:37] <irctc481> hello guys i need your help, i updated from 12.04 to 12.10 and at the reboot it ask me to login with a console terminal. I can not understand what kind of login it is, can you help me?
[01:37] <IncrediblePony> ffs... my efforts to install ubuntu seem to fail.. my entire win7 OS just crashed and burned because of it :( - well... reformatting my entire hdd
[01:38] <neverwearcondoms> why did an african invent ubuntu and why isn't he a nigger?
[01:38] <coop999> irctc481    do CRTL ALT F1  to bring up terminal
[01:39] <irctc481> is already in terminal, not even the graphics appear
[01:39] <irctc481> coop999 is already in terminal, not even the graphics appear
[01:39] <wafflejock> irctc481: you need to use your regular username and password to login
[01:39] <coop999> start the lightdm (look for this on google)
[01:39] <wafflejock> after you login you can try to do this
[01:39] <wafflejock> sudo service lightdm restart
[01:40] <irctc481> coop999 i can not because is not a shell, is just login with a cursor
[01:40] <wafflejock> if the graphics are able to startup properly you'll get a nomral graphical login if not you have to investigate what is wrong with your xorg.conf basically
[01:41] <irctc481> ok, wafflejock, you told me before that is just a normal login and password.
[01:41] <coop999> if just login with cursor then try to login  username and then password and then try the sudo command for lightdm noted previously
[01:41] <wafflejock> irctc481: yeah it's just asking for any user/password combo that is stored on the system or can be authenticated with PAM
[01:41] <irctc481> the strange thing it is that i do not know the username, because i use to click on the user and type the password.
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> irctc481, Do you happen to have a graphic card that needs drivers?
[01:42] <irctc481> is the username the same of the permission?
[01:42] <wafflejock> irctc481: you'll need to remember the username
[01:42] <wafflejock> irctc481: there's no harm in guessing really
[01:43] <wafflejock> irctc481: mine is just my first name believe this is default
[01:44] <irctc481> how i can retrieve the username?
[01:44] <irctc481> i'm loading in recovery mode now
[01:44] <fishduck> just installed something that I have no idea where the installed stuff went. Searching trough whole / after its files.. finds it nowhere :P. How do I find the stuff it installed?
[01:45] <wafflejock> fishduck: how did you install?
[01:45] <wafflejock> fishduck: using apt-get?
[01:45] <coop999> hello.   fresh re-install of 13.10 after upgrade went bad.   Now Cheese will display my face, but will not snap photo and hangs when press video record.  Webcam does work with skype.    Nothing pops doing google search on Cheese that is recent in terms of errors.   Cheese worked fine in 13.04 on this machine.
[01:45] <wafflejock> fishduck: if so you can use dpkg -L packagename
[01:45] <fishduck> wafflejock: checkinstall and some weird package
[01:46] <fishduck> wafflejock: thanks. it says /. .. what does that mean?
[01:46] <wafflejock> fishduck: if you installed from a .sh or the like you'll need to look into the file to see what it does or read the docs where you got the installer or us inotifywatch to see what's going on
[01:46] <tomtheman5> hi everyone... normally not this desperate, but I've spent two days trying to get any version of ubuntu running on a ThinkPad T430.
[01:46] <tomtheman5> Need to be able to use two external (non-laptop) monitors when it's docked, and to use the laptop monitor when it's not docked.
[01:47] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: getting CRTC -5 error?
[01:47] <tomtheman5> I'm getting black screens, purple screens, really long mouse trails, super low resolutions... I've tried everything :(
[01:47] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: ah I ask cause on Kubuntu here and get that error if I have 3 monitors hooked up
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> tomtheman5, Have you checked the web on the dock being linux friendly?
[01:48] <tomtheman5> wafflejock: No, I don't think so... Never seen that before. Should I check logs?
[01:48] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: I have to disable the LCD before hooking up the other two
[01:48] <wafflejock> it would have been obvious no need to search logs
[01:49] <tomtheman5> wilee-nilee: I've read through around 30-40 different pages... I'm running out of help links :P
[01:49] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: or at least no need to search for that in particular then... but sounds like graphics drivers issues
[01:50] <tomtheman5> wafflejock: That's what confuses me... I've got a T410 with 12.04 32-bit that does exactly what I want... It switches every time I dock
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> tomtheman5, I would make sure the monitors can be run independently of the dock and what is needed to have them do so.
[01:50] <irctc481> wafflejock i'm loading in recovery mode now and at the menu i selected root shell prompt
[01:50] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: still could easily be very different GPUs
[01:50] <tomtheman5> dunno what a GPU is... hang on...looking it up
[01:51] <wafflejock> Easy: you can type: ls -al /home/
[01:51] <tomtheman5> ah
[01:51] <wafflejock> oh just graphics processor
[01:51] <wafflejock> or graphics chipset
[01:52] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: you can use lcpci to see the details
[01:52] <tomtheman5> ugh I'm really at a loss... company is offering me a mac instead, but I *really* want ubuntu to work lol
[01:52] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: you can put ubuntu on the Mac :)
[01:52] <wafflejock> but I would fight it :)
[01:52] <tomtheman5> I just hate how light they are hahaha... I feel like I'd crush it :P
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> tomtheman5, I have never used apple but would take a free mac that plugs and plays.
[01:53] <wafflejock> I wouldn't I really do dislike them that much :0
[01:53] <tomtheman5> Do you know of any good resources that explain this stuff to a newbie? graphics, drivers, and how to manage them on linux?
[01:54] <gvo> tomtheman5: It's a moving target, unfortunately
[01:54] <tomtheman5> like I said, I've been searching around since yesterday... but everything I find is really obtuse (to me, anyway)
[01:54] <wafflejock> tomtheman5: unfortunatley no I don't it's a bit of black magic as far as I'm concerned... I have a System76 which has been largely fine Intel HD 4000 graphics, but still quirks as I mentioned
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> Just for the experience and extra knowledge to help apple users
[01:55] <wafflejock> luckily nothing I can't easily get around in my case but not sure where exactly to point you
[01:55] <daftykins> tomtheman5: did anyone point out the ubuntu manual to you?
[01:55] <maujhsn> gvo Good to see you in the house!
[01:56] <gvo> maujhsn: Hi always somewhere.
[01:56] <maujhsn> Ok!
[01:56] <wafflejock> eh I used one for a bit cause was working on a project for schools where lots of Macs are out there but no reason for another machine and so the hackintosh was born
[01:56] <fishduck> what's /opt/ ??
[01:56] <tomtheman5> daftykins: no... downloading it now, thanks
[01:56] <wafflejock> fishduck: usually for optional software packages... third party stuff
[01:57] <chicognu> i try to lock google chrome to laucher, but it refuses to be locked ... when i log out and login again it is not more in the laucher .... what can i o
[01:57] <wafflejock> fishduck: IBM Websphere installs there, Sublime Text I believe is suggested to be installed there, other stuff
[01:57] <Smilex> I was told by #winehq to install libgl-mesa-dri:i386, to fix an issue with wine running with the software renderer, but when I try running 'sudo apt-get install libgl-mesa-dri:i386', it says that it is already installed. Am I running the correct command to install 32bit libs on a 64bit system?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, Desktop?
[01:57] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, if my ubuntu is desktop version ? yes ...
[01:57] <fishduck> wafflejock: so it's a program folder, perhaps?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, Unity?
[01:58] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, yes
[01:58] <wafflejock> fishduck: yeah it's basically a folder for some third party programs, most stuff from the repos just ends up in /usr/bin with config in /etc
[01:58] <wafflejock> and logs in /var/log
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, You are using keep on panel when open?
[01:58] <maujhsn> gvo Does freenode have a number two rival in the "irc" education world?
[01:58] <VanessaE> can someone help me figure out a slowness issue with nfs4 mounts?
[01:58] <wafflejock> fishduck: but occasionally something goes into /opt/ not sure the exact history of it
[01:59] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, where is that option ? i don't know what is that about
[01:59] <wafflejock> maujhsn: I think effnet
[01:59] <piousminion> Hi, I'm trying to install teamspeak. I can't find it with apt-cache or software center, but this exists. Ideas? http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/teamspeak-client
[01:59] <tomtheman5> I keep seeing things telling me to go to the "Additional Drivers" tab of Software and Updates... Any ideas why that tab shows me no actual drivers?
[01:59] <zykotick9> maujhsn: actually freenode might be #2 behind OFTC
[01:59] <gvo> maujhsn: I don't know.
[01:59] <maujhsn> Ok!
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, open chrome right click the icon in panel.
[01:59] <wafflejock> piousminion: lsb_release -a
[02:00] <piousminion> wafflejock: Ubuntu 13.10 saucy
[02:00] <chicognu> there is a option "lock to luncher" wilee-nilee
[02:00] <chicognu> is that what im using
[02:00] <maujhsn> zykotick9 OFTC education based as well?
[02:00] <wafflejock> piousminion: are you on x64?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, That is? from a right click with chrome open?
[02:00] <wafflejock> piousminion: package says it's i386 think you need to suffix that on the package like, teamspeak-client:i386
[02:01] <piousminion> wafflejock: I am. hmm. Do I need to enable multilib somehow?
[02:01] <wafflejock> piousminion: not sure though just guessing here
[02:01] <zykotick9> maujhsn: dpkg's oftc factoid - OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service.  They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net.  You may be connected to OFTC's network.  http://www.oftc.net/  See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>.
[02:01] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, there is the title of the windown, the option to lock it and quit
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, we are not communicating.
[02:02] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, can we try again ?
[02:02] <maujhsn> zykotick9 Thanks for the food for thought!
[02:03] <zykotick9> maujhsn: fyi, my local LUG and debian both use OFTC over freenode
[02:03] <chicognu> wilee-nilee, the panel you said is the vertical bar in the left, right ?
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, open chrome, in the left panel right click the chrome icon and click add to panel.
[02:03] <wafflejock> think it's lock to panel no? haven't been in unity in a sec
[02:04] <wafflejock> chicognu: it's generally referred to as the launcher I believe in Unity, typically any bar with stuff in it within Linux has been called a panel though
[02:04] <fishduck> can you stop FF from installing from ubuntus repository and get the updates directly from mozilla instead?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> no confirmation in straight english that is even happening
[02:04] <zykotick9> fishduck: bad idea...
[02:04] <fishduck> zykotick9: why?
[02:05] <wafflejock> fishduck: untested
[02:05] <zykotick9> wafflejock: +1
[02:05] <wafflejock> fishduck: unless you fancy yourself a guinea pig
[02:05] <chicognu> wafflejock, well here is lock to laucher
[02:05] <nicor> hi everyone
[02:05] <fishduck> can I prevent ff from installing the weirdware from ubuntu then? I see a lot of weird plugins such as "onlineaccount-something" (I'm pretty sure.. like 100% that I don't need it and most likely don't want it)
[02:05] <chicognu> but it don't really lock
[02:06] <wafflejock> chicognu: yeah not sure... for some reason in KDE I had to make my own .desktop file then use that to add it a panel
[02:06] <nicor> can someone tell me the sizes of the partitions that is recomended for ubuntu?
[02:06] <VanessaE> nevermind.  figured it out.  gssd wasn't running.
[02:06] <zykotick9> fishduck: now, THAT point makes an argument for using mozilla's version... best of luck.
[02:06] <wafflejock> chicognu: no problems with any other icon but the chrome one was fighting with me for some reason
[02:06] <nicor> i read that i should have 3 partitions for a 320gb hard drive
[02:06] <geekmasterflash> nicor: Depends on your storage space, and how much memory
[02:07] <nicor> i see
[02:07] <geekmasterflash> nicor: If you have low memory, you'll want some swap space
[02:07] <fishduck> zykotick9: sarcasm? :P
[02:07] <nicor> 320gb 2gb ram
[02:07] <zykotick9> fishduck: NO!
[02:07] <chicognu> wafflejock, lol, same here ... xchat is just fine ... anything is just fine .... but chrome ....
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> fishduck, some plugins are installed already, notice the dropdown on the left of each one.
[02:07] <geekmasterflash> nicor: 2 is a bit low, so you'll probably want to partition 512 to 1 GB of swap
[02:07] <zykotick9> fishduck: "I" wouldn't trust ubuntu's firefox...
[02:07] <nicor> ok thans
[02:07] <wafflejock> fishduck: I'm a chromium user personally like the stripped down and chrome developer tools
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> er right fishduck
[02:08] <rosco_y> Does anyone know if I can use the intuos wacom digipad with 13.10?
[02:08] <nicor> and the other 2 parts?
[02:08] <fishduck> zykotick9: press ctrl+shift+a in FF and check the plugins and addons.. you'll find a lot of weird stuff, at least in the latest ubuntu versions
[02:08] <geekmasterflash> nicor: There is no real point to partitioning /home seperately on the same disk, as it tends to cause headaches you can easily avoid
[02:08] <nicor> ist ok 50 gb for the OS
[02:08] <zykotick9> fishduck: i don't use ubuntu (or firefox - i use iceweasel)
[02:08] <nicor> oo
[02:08] <nicor> oo
[02:08] <nicor> i see
[02:08] <FloodBot1> nicor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:08] <geekmasterflash> nicor: If you have multiple disks, then you might want to partition one as /home
[02:08] <nicor> so i can have to parts
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> nicor, Can you explain 3 partitions and what they are?
[02:09] <geekmasterflash> nicor: Generally, if you partition / and /swap you'll be set on most installs
[02:09] <chicognu> geekmasterflash,  well i really like use other partition to home .... i don't need to backup anything when reinstalling the system
[02:09] <nicor> heekmasterflash: thanks
[02:09] <nicor> i think that is what im going to do
[02:09] <nicor> and i put 2gb of swap
[02:09] <nicor> just in case
[02:09] <geekmasterflash> nicor: That is definately overkill
[02:09] <zykotick9> fishduck: keep in mind - i'm a TROLL.  your words, not mine :P
[02:10] <chicognu> i use here /boot /system /swap /home .... there is a reason for swap be between system and home :)
[02:11] <chicognu> the most accessed files during the use of system are in /system and /home ... so the swap between they will increase a little bit the performace nicor
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> boot partition is not needed in a msdos setup
[02:11] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: if you use encrypted file systems it might be!
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, That may be, but I will not comment on those that encrypt.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:13] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: i don't use encrypted FSs either ;)
[02:13] <nicor> chicognu: i see, so what yo recomend?
[02:13] <chicognu> my /boot partition, in fact, are in my pendrive ... and a carry it to every single place i go. the hd on notebook are fully encrypted :)
[02:13] <BuntuFuntu> Fully encrypted HDD here too.
[02:13] <BuntuFuntu> And no, I'm not hiding anything.
[02:13] <nicor> i think that to advanced for me at this point, but ill ihave it on mind
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> of course you are
[02:14] <BuntuFuntu> Nope. Nothing hidden.
[02:14] <nicor> wilee-nilee: im not an expert actually im really rookie with this but i read that there is 3 partition types for a hard drive, the primary one, the secondary one and the swap one..
[02:15] <nicor> wilee-nilee the primary ande secondary one are for the file systems end the swap one is for the ram memory to put there some secondary task or something
[02:15] <nicor> wilee-nilee: is that ok?
[02:15] <piousminion> Does anyone here use teamspeak on 64-bit saucy?  Everything online says the package should exist, but it doesn't.
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> nicor, primary I will assume is root and secondary is home, works for some who want to upgrade and keep home.
[02:15] <chicognu> nicor, i don't have know how to recommend anything lol .... what i uses is /boot 256mb /system with 30gb (a lot are freespace, but i never now when I will need to install some thing big) swap with 512 mb or 1gb, and the everything else as home
 And no, I'm not hiding anything.
[02:16] <chicognu> well i hide porn from my mom ... normal porn ... but of course i don't wanna my mom to see it
[02:16] <chicognu> lol
[02:16] <BuntuFuntu> What? I'm not hiding anything.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> chicognu, You can tab complete nicks
[02:16] <nicor> LOL
[02:17] <nicor> ok guys i think that i know now what im going to do
[02:17] <BuntuFuntu> If your talking about the Iron man 3 movie on my HDD, that was there when I bought it ;o
[02:17] <nicor> im going to do 2 partitions
[02:17] <nicor> swap of 1 gb
[02:17] <BuntuFuntu> Kidding. My Ubuntu is mostly default. Except for a Skype Package installed.
[02:17] <nicor> and the other one for everything else
[02:18] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: why the encryption then?
[02:18] <nicor> i apreciate the advices
[02:18] <geekmasterflash> nicor: Just keep in mind that if you format / and swap only, it will be easy but recovery could be harder
[02:18] <nicor> i see
[02:18] <BuntuFuntu> Wafflejock: Idk. I guess to make it harder incase my laptop was stolen.
[02:18] <nicor> i ll have it on mind
[02:18] <BuntuFuntu> :P
[02:18] <nicor> but just for future references
[02:19] <geekmasterflash> nicor: I get around that by having a usb hard drive for backup purposes.
[02:19] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: yeah but if nothing sensitive on it you're okay anyho
[02:19] <wafflejock> anyhow*
[02:19] <nicor> how much the root part should have?
[02:19] <geekmasterflash> nicor: But some people kile to go nuts
[02:19] <geekmasterflash> like*
[02:19] <nicor> hahahha
[02:20] <BuntuFuntu> Did anyone hear that Adobe Photoshop's source code was released by some group that managed to steal it? o.O
[02:20] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: no but that's great news
[02:20] <zykotick9> BuntuFuntu: NOT ubuntu related!
[02:20] <chicognu> wafflejock, in my case i full encrypt the hdd and walks with a pendrive with the boot encrypted because im really paranoic ...  i belive some one can change my hdd contents when I'm out of home or some thing else ... and with the hd fully encrypted I believe it is not possible to put a keylogger or anything else
[02:20] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: I mean not the stealing part
[02:20] <nicor> i mean how much is the minimun amount that the root need to work properly
[02:21] <zykotick9> nicor: 5GB (but that'll break if you try to upgrade)
[02:21] <chicognu> with the boot "decrypted"*
[02:21] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: but photoshop on ubuntu without VM sure would be nice, which Adobe would just work something out instead though
[02:21] <BuntuFuntu> wafflejock: Aha yes but back on topic. do you think Arma would play on Ubuntu with wine and playonlinux?
[02:21] <zykotick9> !requirements | nicor
[02:21] <wafflejock> wish*
[02:22] <nicor> ok
[02:22] <nicor> got it
[02:22] <wafflejock> BuntuFuntu: not sure about that haven't done a lot gaming in wine just Steam
[02:22] <nicor> im going to read about it
[02:22] <nicor> thanks again!
[02:22] <nicor> good bye people!
[02:22] <BuntuFuntu> Wafflejock: It won't hurt for me to try though :P
[02:22] <geekmasterflash> nicor: I generally let /root be part of /, since that means it can be expanded when I update
[02:22] <wafflejock> chicognu: that is extra paranoid why not protect the house?
[02:22] <chicognu> wafflejock, protect the data is free
[02:22] <chicognu> :)
[02:23] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: ahhh /root should be close to empty on ubuntu...
[02:23] <wafflejock> chicognu: true I suppose, I just don't have data per se that I'm worried about protecting... use keepass for passwords and the like, just about everything else is online
[02:24] <wafflejock> and i just don't think people on the west side of chicago are savvy to the point they're going to come in here install a keylogger and leave everything untouched
[02:24] <chicognu> wafflejock, not to mention that I have an extra pendrive (that only have /home encrypted for no reason) with ubuntu 12.04LTS only to use internet banking and home broker system. (I don't need to say that I also walk to every where with that pendrive)
[02:24] <wafflejock> more likely they will take all the electronics and pawn them where they'll be wiped
[02:25] <grumpybynight> Hi all
[02:25] <grumpybynight> I've installed Ubuntu successfully, dual booting with Windows 8.1
[02:26] <chicognu> wafflejock, that is true ... i really recognize that my behavior are 98% based on paranoia, not in a real possibility
[02:26] <SchrodingersScat> grumpybynight: great
[02:26] <wafflejock> chicognu: yeah I just don't want the extra trouble if I need to pull the drive and the like
[02:26] <grumpybynight> Ubuntu is running great, but Windows seems to have slowed down a LOT. Very laggy after installing Ubuntu. I'm not sure why this has happened. Any ideas?
[02:26] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: Did you install it on a UEFI drive?
[02:27] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: I had a similar problem trying to dual boot from a drive formatted for UEFI. It worked, kind of, but made the original OS buggy as hell
[02:27] <SetiAmon> hey can anyone tell me why my middle scroll button is irratic in ubuntu 13.10
[02:27] <grumpybynight> geekmasterflash: No, legacy. And I've disabled the fast startup setting.
[02:28] <SetiAmon> I mean i'm scrolling then it starts going up when scrolling hte middle wheel down etc.
[02:28] <grumpybynight> geekmasterflash: How'd you fix the problem?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, Ubuntu is a separate OS, should be no effect on windows speed.
[02:28] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: I didn't, I ended up bricking the hard drive putzing around with gparted
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> grumpybynight, You might defragg it if you resized it.
[02:29] <wafflejock> grumpybynight: so far running win 8 in a VM it's been good had it side by side before but no issues either (8 not 8.1 though)
[02:29] <grumpybynight> wilee-nilee: I will try that. I'm not sure why it's happening, though, since Windows and Ubuntu are both on separate partitions.
[02:29] <pero> i'm trying to re/un-install unity webapps - any way to do it without removing unity?
[02:29] <guest4691> how can I write #ubuntu iso to my usb?
[02:30] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: It's unlikely, but did you have a large page file on the windows side?
[02:30] <geekmasterflash> grumpybynight: You might have eaten enough extra space that windows can't page right
[02:30] <tomtheman5> guest4691: are you on ubuntu right now? if so, use "startup disk creator" from the dash
[02:31] <zykotick9> guest4691: if you are on a gnu/linux distro: 1st choices = cat/cp/dd; distant 2nd choice unetbootin
[02:31] <guest4691> tomtheman5: the 'make' buttton is deactivated
[02:31] <guest4691> I'm on ubuntu
[02:31] <geekmasterflash> guest4691: Is the USB stick formatted?
[02:31] <tomtheman5> you'll need to download the ISO
[02:31] <apb1963> Using chrome on ubuntu 12.04... Trying to open what is supposed to be a graphic... instead, it's downloading the file as a .php... opening it results in gibberish....  anyone know what plugin I might need to make chrome behave properly?
[02:31] <guest4691> yeah to fat32
[02:31] <guest4691> I have the iso
[02:32] <tomtheman5> guest4691: you'll need to download and select the ISO at the top
[02:32] <grumpybynight> Before installing Ubuntu, I had C: and D: partitions. Windows was on C:. I resized my D: and installed Ubuntu in the extra space freed up.
[02:32] <guest4691> lol did that
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> guest4691: Is the ISO file located in the home folder somewhere?
[02:32] <guest4691> its in documents
[02:32] <guest4691> so yes
[02:32] <tomtheman5> and the disk is formatted?
[02:33] <guest4691> yeah to fat32
[02:34] <guest4691> isn't there a command for it? dd I think
[02:34] <SetiAmon> any scrolling issues with ubuntu recorded
[02:34] <SetiAmon> middle wheel scrolling
[02:34] <grumpybynight> Anyway, I think I'll try defragging
[02:34] <grumpybynight> brb
[02:34] <tomtheman5> beats me, sorry :(
[02:35] <guest4691> thanks anyway
[02:35] <geekmasterflash> guest4691: sudo dd if=~/path/to/iso/iso.iso of=/dev/sdx oflag=direct  bs=1048576
[02:35] <irctc084> my system get stuck at checking battery state, what i can do? please help me
[02:35] <tomtheman5> I did have some issues with the startup disk tool UI... both sections only show one entry, and you need to expand the window to see others
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> SetiAmon, State the issues to the channel if you want help.
[02:36] <zykotick9> guest4691: i'd suggest "sudo -i" then "cat /path/to/fils.iso /dev/sdX"
[02:37] <irctc084> guys can you read my messages? just to realize
[02:37] <zykotick9> irctc084: yes we see your messages
[02:38] <irctc084> zykotick9 ok, thanks, because i did not receive any clue i was thinking you can not read them
[02:38] <guest4691> thanks geekmasterflash, writing now
[02:38] <SetiAmon> The middle button,scroll wheel.when i am scrolling it will be irratic like scrolling down it will start scrolling up or jumpy etc
[02:38] <SetiAmon> that is my issue
[02:38] <irctc084> so nobody can help, me or giving me any clue?
[02:38] <SetiAmon> ubuntu 13.10
[02:38] <zykotick9> !tab | irctc084 fyi
[02:38] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Is it an optical mouse?
[02:38] <SetiAmon> yes
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, You gotta give it more than 2 min and post details.
[02:39] <SetiAmon> a wireless mouse also
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Some optical mice have a the laser termine if the wheel is moving. If dust gets in it, it can cause mayhem
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Over enginnering for the win
[02:39] <SetiAmon> wait it isn't optical if that means lazer.its just hte red light infared
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Otherwise, it might be wireless interference?
[02:40] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: thank you, i'm trying to post details but i do not now what kind of details you needed
[02:40] <SetiAmon> i didn't have a issue with windows
[02:40] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Can you boot into windows currently and not have the issue? Sometimes issues prop up between boots
[02:40] <irctc084> guys my problem is this, my system get stuck at "checking battery state" during boot what i can do?
[02:41] <SetiAmon> maybe i'll buy another wireless mouse on black friday and see if that works
[02:41] <tomtheman5> Just did a fresh install of 13.04 onto my T430... still getting the same graphics issues... Is it worth trying with 12.04?
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, when where and how on the check would be helpful probably.
[02:41] <SetiAmon> Nah the reason i've just install linux is because windows locked into a infininite startup boot loop and couldn't be fixed....lost 500gigs man
[02:42] <tomtheman5> Or is it just never going to work because the driver just doesn't exist/work? (in which case I'd downgrade to my T410, which I know works)
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: It's unlikely, but the issue could have been something that started between then and now and unrelated to Linux
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Do you have another computer you can test the mouse on?
[02:42] <SetiAmon> nope.
[02:42] <SetiAmon> its cool i'll just point and drag the scroll
[02:42] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: i press the power on button, the system start to load and on the list of the service start it stop at checking battery.
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> SetiAmon: Is it bluetooth?
[02:43] <SetiAmon> if it is a linux issue i imagine it will be patched
[02:43] <supergauntlet> alright, so now nm-applet works..
[02:43] <SetiAmon> no bluetooth is turned off it has one of those usb sticks
[02:43] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: i'm not even able to exit, i'm constricted to force the shutdown
[02:43] <supergauntlet> if i run it as root.
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, During the boot yhou have the splash off you are seeing text?
[02:43] <supergauntlet> But it says it can't find networkmanager if run as a regular user
[02:44] <rosco_y> Can anyone tell me how to set the hotspots on the edges of my monitors?  (i.e., lower-right corner opens the workspace view)
[02:44] <rosco_y> I'm finding that my current settings are disruptive
[02:44] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: I assume you're talking about compiz?
[02:44] <amagee> I have an upstart job that runs a daemon that responds to commands and launches applications. I have it running as my own user (amagee). I can't seem to get it to launch graphical apps though, I get errors saying "cannot open display". Is there something, perhaps an `export DISPLAY=???` incantation that might help?
[02:45] <JordanJ2> Hello. While booting Ubuntu from USB I get stuck at a black screen that reads "SYLINUX 4.03 2010-10-22 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[02:45] <rosco_y> geekmasterflash: I admit that I really don't know what I'm talking about....
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, check the sum of the iso
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: For example, I have a hot zone on the bottom of my screen. If I click it, I can rotate to another desktop
[02:45] <JordanJ2> How?
[02:45] <rosco_y> but when I accidentally drag my mouse down to the edges of my monitor, then different functions are triggered.
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: That is a compiz setting
[02:45] <supergauntlet> JordanJ2: also if that doesnt help try a different USB drive
[02:45] <rosco_y> hot zone, that's the word I was looking for.
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: Namely, the desktop cube "Rotate" setting
[02:45] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: yes, i will try to force the power off, and i will let you know exaclty
[02:45] <JordanJ2> I do not have another.
[02:46] <rosco_y> compiz, ty--I'll try that for awhile -- thanks geekmasterflash
[02:46] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: do you have any ideas what might be the problem?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, HOw many times have you forced it off now, and has it ever worked, and isgthee any history of other problems?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> is there*
[02:46] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: If that is what you want, grab compizconfig-setting-manager
[02:47] <geekmasterflash> rosco_y: Then launch ccsm from a terminal
[02:47] <rosco_y> geekmasterflash: ty--installing as we speak :)
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, Did you look through the askubuntu link I gave you?
[02:47] <supergauntlet> wilee-nilee: which one?
[02:47] <supergauntlet> the one related to the wifi card?
[02:48] <Jebus> How do I change my password for a registered Nick In Xchat
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> supergauntlet, Yes, and wasn't it found that there was a sort of messed up upgrade as well?
[02:48] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: lots because there i no way to switch off
[02:48] <supergauntlet> yes, i went through with dist-upgrade and that seemed to fix nm-applet not working at all
[02:48] <supergauntlet> but now it will only connect to wifi if I run nm-applet as root
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, Hard shutdowns will break a OS.
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Jebus: Can depend on the IRC server you are in, but usually it's /msg nickserv set password
[02:49] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee: The checksums match.
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Jebus: Unless you are asking how to change the password on file within Xchat's settings... in which case.... I am not sure
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, What app did you load the usb with?
[02:49] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: i'm on the grub now, you want me to do something?
[02:49] <JordanJ2> Unet bootin
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, Not that I know of.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Is this a nvidia graphic?
[02:50] <irctc084> wilee-nilee:  ok i will just start ubuntu...
[02:50] <JordanJ2> Intel
[02:50] <Jebus> geekmasterflash thank you :)
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, and have it stop again  and then hard shutdown?
[02:51] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: no at the grub i started ubuntu then it appear the ubuntu logo that is loading and the a black screen
[02:52] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Have you nuked any xorg.conf file?
[02:52] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: i don't know nothing abuot that
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, So when is it that you are actually getting this stuck battery check? I have asked questions, if you do not understand them say so.
[02:53] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: if you are logging into a black screen, it commonly due to something wrong with the graphics / xorg. If you can reach a command line, sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:53] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: can try to reboot in verbose mode what do you think? so i can give you a bterre picture
[02:54] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Actually nevermind, I think I only caught half of that conversation
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> irctc084, we are not even close to communicating and now others are reading these last posts not all and advising you, I'm done.
[02:55] <irctc084> wilee-nilee: what do you mean?
[02:56] <JordanJ2> wilee-nilee: It will boot on UEFI mode but not legacy
[02:56] <uc_> hola hare una pregunta en español
[02:56] <wafflejock> !es | uc_
[02:56] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: tecnically on boot i have the grub screen, i load ubuntu and i receive the black screen. everything started after an update from 12.04 to 12.10
[02:57] <uc_> gracias
[02:57] <uc_> jaja no hay nadie
[02:57] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Do you reach a desktop manager - as in, do you get a screen asking you to log in and then after log in get hosed, or does go black well before?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, Hmm 7 posts to even mention uefi.
[02:58] <JordanJ2> ?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> JordanJ2, That is a key point no matter what.
[02:58] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: it goes black just after the ubuntu loading splash screen.
[03:00] <MajSlayer> hey guys got a fresh dedicated server, havent used linux, logged into it via ssh, want to install Red5, any idea what package of java i should get?
[03:00] <wafflejock> !xorg | irctc084
[03:00] <wafflejock> !xorgconf | irctc084
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> MajSlayer, This is ubuntu support.
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: yeah look for #linux or #redhat
[03:01] <MajSlayer> im using a ubuntu 13.04 server
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: oh red 5hhaha
[03:01] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: If you are able to reach grub, try booting with "nomodeset"
[03:01] <wafflejock> sorry
[03:01] <MajSlayer> yeah didnt come with it preinstalled or anything
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: still not sure which Java you'll need for it though honestly
[03:01] <MajSlayer> i think JRE7 is what i want, just not sure
[03:01] <rosco_y> At some point in time I stumbled on a place that let me specify when I drag my mouse in the lower right of my panel, it opens up my Workspace Switcher--does anyone know what I need to do to disable this
[03:01] <MajSlayer> yep i understand
[03:01] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: you can always try one and switch
[03:01] <rosco_y> ?
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: When you're in the grub menu, find your ubuntu boot and press e to edit
[03:02] <MajSlayer> yep good point
[03:02] <JordanJ2> Do you know why wilee-nilee?
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: You may find "quiet splash" appended to the boot image. Change it to nomodeset
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Save, boot that image
[03:02] <MajSlayer> oh how do i get a desktop i can remotely use with a dedicated server? seen some software that does it..
[03:03] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: And you may then be able to install missing drivers
[03:03] <rosco_y> I want to disable all the special functions that happen when my mouse hits the edges of my panels, it's driving me nuts....
[03:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: VNC works
[03:03] <MajSlayer> thanks i'll google it
[03:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: you can use VNC through an SSH tunnel
[03:03] <MajSlayer> awesome
[03:03] <MajSlayer> ty
[03:03] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: $nomodeset?
[03:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: np
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: nomodeset
[03:04] <MajSlayer> thanks ran a isp at one time, 13 years ago. but this server has nothing installed by default
[03:04] <MajSlayer> thus the questions, got a book in the mail.lol
[03:04] <MajSlayer> the install it yourself ones i loved..
[03:04] <MajSlayer> this one is pretty much a blank slate
[03:04] <uc_> hello anyone knows a video capture usb support linux to see it in vlc as dev-1 rjemplo?
[03:05] <MajSlayer> but i guess thats a good thing in the end..
[03:05] <rosco_y> I've been rooting around in ccsm, but I can't find it there....
[03:05] <hugo_> exit
[03:05] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: So for example... linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-26-generic root=UUID=randomnumbers ro quiet splash $vt_handoff would become linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-26-generic root=UUID=randomnumbers ro nomodeset $vt_handoff
[03:05] <rosco_y> lots of stuff though, maybe I'm missing it
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> rosco_y, desktop and special functions?
[03:06] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: f10 to boot right?
[03:06] <uc_> i ned help
[03:06] <daftykins> !ask | uc_
[03:06] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: I use control-x, but I think f10 works too
[03:06] <hexacode> anyone know a way to log into linux thru a serial port?  the small monitor on my netbook is broken and plugging a monitor into the serial port seems to require additional user interaction.
[03:06] <hexacode> which i obviously cant do because i can see anything
[03:06] <wafflejock> hexacode: can't plug in a monitor to serial port
[03:06] <irctc084> valerio
[03:07] <wafflejock> hexacode: that's a vga port if it fits
[03:07] <uc_> ok
[03:07] <hexacode> wafflejock:  thats what i meant lol
[03:07] <wafflejock> hexacode: okay yeah I mean there is serial communication but I don't think anyone has that port anymroe
[03:07] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: ok, now i have a tty1 with a login , i logged in and i have a shell, but no desktop
[03:07] <carlson> q
[03:07] <Ben64> hexacode: if you boot the computer with the vga attached, it should display something
[03:08] <hexacode> i remember people logged into linux via physical console wires
[03:08] <rosco_y> wilee-nilee: ty, for example, when I put my mouse in the lower-right corner, it opens up my Workspace switcher, when I put my mouse off the right edge, it opens up a task switcher etc.
[03:08] <hexacode> Ben64: ah ya i think thats right
[03:08] <hexacode> thanks
[03:08] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Good, now you can log in with user/pass and grab some likely missing files
[03:08] <wafflejock> hexacode: yeah sometimes there is a button to toggle on laptops in the f-keys row
[03:08] <hexacode> i totally forgot that
[03:08] <rosco_y> I thought it would be clever when I did it, but I can't get used to it.
[03:08] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: What desktop enviroment do you have installed?
[03:09] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: it was the dafault one
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: IE: So unity?
[03:09] <irctc084> i think unity?
[03:09] <SchrodingersScat> rosco_y: yeah, I prefer to click and drag the top or bottom of the screen.
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: K
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: And what type of graphics card do you have?
[03:09] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: is a dell opltiplex 760, just a sec i look on internet
[03:09] <wafflejock> irctc084: if you don't know your graphics chipset check with lspci
[03:09] <rosco_y> SchrodingersScat: that sounds pretty good, but I just want to disable all the hot-zone special functionality on my monitors, so I can just sling my mouse out of the way
[03:13] <IncrediblePony> srsly... I've reformatted this crap five times now... every time an error got fixed, a new one popped up.. I've lost all my files on my hdd from win7 cus ubuntu boot made it crash.... I'm getting sick of this -.-'
[03:14] <JordanJ2> Someone? ._.
[03:14] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: problem?
[03:14] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: ah boot from USB hang... have you tried with DVD?
[03:14] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: wafflejock  it should be a Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500;
[03:15] <BuntuFuntu> I have an Intel GMA. .-.
[03:15] <reisio> IncrediblePony: learningn to backup the hard way :)
[03:15] <JordanJ2> It will boot from UEFI fine just not legacy. wafflejock
[03:15] <reisio> IncrediblePony: what makes you think your files are gone, though
[03:15] <irctc084> lspci give me a list but i can not scroll up (font too big)
[03:15] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Okay, first order of buisness lets nuke any existing xorg.conf (likely nothing there, but you never know) do a sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:15] <JordanJ2> I do not have a CD/DVD drive
[03:16] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Then we are gonna install drivers, then reconfigure lightdm
[03:16] <wafflejock> irctc084: lspci | less
[03:17] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: can not remove not such file
[03:17] <wafflejock> irctc084: or, lcpci | grep graphics
[03:17] <wafflejock> irctc084: q to get out of less
[03:17] <Duel-Travis> can I uninstall the KDE FUll and get xfce
[03:17] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: yes
[03:17] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: K, so now you need drivers. Forgive me, I have never used intel graphics before, I need to look up where they are kept
[03:17] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: same as uninstall ubuntu desktop and install KDE
[03:17] <JordanJ2> So I have no idea wafflejock
[03:18] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, oKAY BRB
[03:18] <wafflejock> JordanJ2: sorry no ideas either except somehow getting an external drive to use or something, even so dunno
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> The ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[03:19] <irctc084> wafflejock: thank you very much
[03:19] <JordanJ2> It worked it Legacy before
[03:19] <wafflejock> irctc084: np
[03:20] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, Okay so how would I uninstall it?
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Sorry, it will take a moment still I am working and just got a call.
[03:20] <irctc084> it sound strange that the update didn't retrieve the drivers, it use to have before!
[03:21] <reisio> IncrediblePony: nice talkin' with you
[03:21] <Duel-Travis> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu desktop full?
[03:21] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  take your time, you are doing even more that expected to help me. and i really appreciate that thank you. thank you to all of you, i'm learning a lot today
[03:21] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: would follow advice here https://wiki.sabayon.org/index.php?title=Remove_KDE
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, No, what release is this?
[03:21] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: if you're strapped for space remove it otherwise install side by side
[03:22] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: your far better off just installing XFCE and using it in place of KDE than taking KDE out and losing other stuff that depends on the same packages
[03:22] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: if you need to get the space back from KDE you can remove it but keep in mind you might be blowing away a lot of other stuff in the process
[03:22] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, like what?
[03:22] <IncrediblePony> okay, who here have had success installing ubuntu with Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com?
[03:23] <reisio> IncrediblePony: not I
[03:23] <IncrediblePony> how did you do it?
[03:23] <reisio> IncrediblePony: I'd use unetbootin, and if that didn't work I'd be careful and use dd
[03:23] <reisio> actually _I_ would do the reverse, but dd is riskier
[03:23] <IncrediblePony> dd?
[03:23] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: read the page... you will see as you go through the process it will tell you what is being removed
[03:24] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, I still have unity
[03:24] <reisio> IncrediblePony: right
[03:24] <IncrediblePony> reisio what do you refer to by dd?
[03:24] <IncrediblePony> that's not anything I'm familiar with I think
[03:25] <reisio> IncrediblePony: basically all Unix systems have a command, 'dd'
[03:25] <reisio> IncrediblePony: :)
[03:25] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: yeah as noted on the site there though removing KDE may result in removal of other packages that other DEs depend on so safer to re-install those before rebooting to be sure all packages are in good shape
[03:25] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Alright, I am back
[03:25] <Ascendion> I've got a dvd drive connected via USB and brasero/wodim are complaining that "cannot load media"
[03:25] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: any time you're doing stuff like replacing your whole desktop environment it's good to backup too
[03:25] <reisio> Ascendion: to do what with
[03:25] <IncrediblePony> reisio: well, I'm reformatting my hdd for the fith time this evening
[03:25] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  i was looking too
[03:26] <Ascendion> burning ubunto 13.10 on a 12.04 system
[03:26] <IncrediblePony> reisio: and I'm getting frustrated
[03:26] <Duel-Travis> wafflejock, Why does it remove so much things?
[03:26] <geekmasterflash> irctc084:  Are you installing 13.10?
[03:26] <JordanJ2> So confused >_,
[03:26] <IncrediblePony> reisio: I'm using UUI, to install my ubuntu, but everytime there seems to be something missing or wrong with my installation
[03:26] <reisio> IncrediblePony: you said
[03:26] <wafflejock> Duel-Travis: not entirely clear to me how the dependency management and such is resolved in apt-get couldn't tell you the details
[03:27] <reisio> IncrediblePony: I'd use unetbootin or dd
[03:27] <IncrediblePony> reisio: never used either
[03:27] <IncrediblePony> and atm I have no OS
[03:27] <reisio> IncrediblePony: that's hard to believe
[03:27] <irctc084> no, i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 geekmasterflash  but i do not mind to upgrade to 13.10 at this stage
[03:28] <IncrediblePony> it's almost 5 in the morning :( - I just want ubuntu to work at this point
[03:28] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/how-to-use-intel-linux-graphics-drivers.html this site should tell you how to get the intel drivers repo added
[03:28] <wafflejock> irctc084: it's likely a good option
[03:28] <reisio> IncrediblePony: I figured
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> Duel-Travis, for the record here is a site, in playing around left column, are whole desktop meta packages lists for ubuntu. Duel-Travis
[03:29] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Actually
[03:29] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Don't add that.
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[03:29] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: There has to be a better way to get intel drivers
[03:29] <irctc084> wafflejock: geekmasterflash  do you think that i can update to 13.10 from the shell? did that fixx this issue all at once?
[03:30] <wafflejock> IncrediblePony: you should probably go to bed and try again when your fresh
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> multiple releases and desktops
[03:30] <wafflejock> irctc084: I would suggest doing a clean install if you have a backup or aren't concerned with the data
[03:30] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Yeah, wafflejock's right. At this point, updating may not help since you might keep whatever dependancy you have that's broken currently
[03:30] <Ascendion> any ideas why I cannot burn the new ubuntu iso using a dvd burner connected via usb ??
[03:31] <irctc084> wafflejock: ok, but i'm doing this in order to retrieve also the data stored in the home desktop folder wich is encrypted
[03:31] <wafflejock> Ascendion: reduce burner speed usually helps
[03:31] <wafflejock> Ascendion: not too familiar with externals though
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Ascendion, using what app?
[03:32] <Ascendion> wafflejock -- not even getting THAT far -- using wodim off the command line it complains "cannot load media with this drive, load media by hand"
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: I think you should be able to grab the driver via sudo apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installer
[03:32] <Ascendion> trying brasero it just fails to load the app at all
[03:32] <Ascendion> cdrecord off command line gives similar errors
[03:32] <wafflejock> Ascendion: ah yeah not sure about wodim, always used Brasero or the like
[03:32] <reisio> Ascendion: similar?
[03:32] <Ascendion> xcdtoast says it cannot access cdrecord
[03:33] <Ascendion> reiso -- its been about 30 minutes since I tried cdrecord -- I got a short memory :)
[03:33] <Ascendion> and it seems that cdrecord is just an alias for wodim anyway
[03:34] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: unable to locate intel-linux-...
[03:34] <wafflejock> irctc084: you should probably look into what you need to do to get a network share or whatever you plan on transferring to mounted via the command line then and just do a cp to copy everything out of there and then do a clean install
[03:34] <reisio> Ascendion: cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=/dev/sr0 path/to/image
[03:34] <geekmasterflash> Anyone here use intel graphics? I never have and I have no idea how to grab the drivers via commandline
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> Geekmaster: I'd have no clue. I think I use all open-source drivers
[03:35] <irctc084> wafflejock: in case i can also just copy the files of the home in a separate drive, but the problem it is that i'm not ale to acceed without the desktop up
[03:35] <BuntuFuntu> Geekmasterflash: I know my comp does have Intel GMA on board.
[03:35] <wafflejock> there's intel-gpu-tools not sure though
[03:35] <wafflejock> irctc084: the home folder is just in /home
[03:36] <shai_> how do I say yes to all for rm -r for write protected files?
[03:36] <shai_> i can't keep tying y
[03:36] <wafflejock> irctc084: http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/
[03:36] <reisio> shai_: -f
[03:37] <shai_> its a directory
[03:37] <Ascendion> wodim: Cannot load media with this drive!
[03:37] <Ascendion> wodim: Try to load media by hand.
[03:37] <Ascendion> wodim: Cannot load media.
[03:37] <irctc084> wafflejock:  yes but it is encrpyted unfortunately, my desktop is encrypted
[03:37] <reisio> Ascendion: neat
[03:37] <shai_> reisio rm -r-f
[03:37] <reisio> Ascendion: you have more than one CD drive?
[03:37] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Try, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[03:38] <wafflejock> hmm well intel-gpu-tools is interesting.. not drivers but some cool stuff
[03:38] <reisio> shai_: probably -fr or -f -r, dunno what -f-r will do
[03:38] <Ascendion> and the burner is /dev/sg1 according to wodim --devices -- just the one dvd drive
[03:38] <wafflejock> irctc084: yeah see the link on booting from liveCD to access encrypted home folder
[03:38] <wafflejock> irctc084: most likely your best option there
[03:38] <reisio> Ascendion: and you tried /dev/sg1 ?
[03:38] <Ascendion> ya thats what I used for the command you gave
[03:39] <daftykins> stargate sg-1 :O
[03:39] <reisio> Ascendion: run 'eject -T' until it opens, then run it again until it closes
[03:39] <daftykins> sorry.
[03:39] <reisio> Ascendion: then try again
[03:39] <Ascendion> k
[03:39] <reisio> Ascendion: or stop wasting your time now and use a USB stick instead
[03:39] <Ascendion> reiso -- I'm about 1500 miles from the machine and the owner doesnt have a usb stick to sacrifice :)
[03:40] <reisio> Ascendion: sure sure :p
[03:40] <irctc084> wafflejock: i just need to login in order to access to the encrypted folder? or i need the encrypt key?
[03:40] <wafflejock> irctc084: I would imagine the key but not familiar with encrypting home folders, I don't do it for this reason
[03:41] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: some packages could not be installed... the followinf packages have unmet dependecies: xserver-...
[03:41] <wafflejock> Ascendion: have you tried just willing ubuntu onto it :)
[03:41] <reisio> Ascendion: you're using sudo, right?
[03:41] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Looks like we found your problem
[03:42] <irctc084> wafflejock:  thank you i will try just as last resort
[03:42] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  miss dependecies?
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Yeah, you are missing depedencies for your graphics card, thus why you are getting a nice black screen. You need to fix the broken dependencies
[03:43] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: the complete text is: xserver-xorg-vide-intel : depende: xserver-xorg-core (>=2:1.12.99.901)
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: I belive you can try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:44] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: To fix it
[03:44] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: 0 updated 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded
[03:44] <Ascendion> resio I did "sudo bash" before I started this mess -- eject -T gives "ioctl: input/output error" but I'm able to access the disc for read if I insert a burned disc
[03:44] <reisio> Ascendion: alright, well, that doesn't sound great
[03:45] <reisio> Ascendion: define access
[03:45] <Ascendion> thats why I'm here -- very confused :)
[03:45] <Ascendion> access as in view and copy files from the disc
[03:45] <reisio> Ascendion: you want to burn so you can install to the same box?
[03:45] <Ascendion> yes
[03:45] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: the previous error says: unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[03:45] <reisio> Ascendion: you want to reinstall Ubuntu?
[03:45] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: You done broke it good.
[03:45] <Ascendion> yes -- full clean  wipe --
[03:46] <reisio> Ascendion: why? (real quick)
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Try sudo apt-get update
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Then try sudo apt-get install -f
[03:46] <Ascendion> just to get up to date before installing the apps that are going on this box
[03:47] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: If that doesnt work, missing dependencies may not be resolvable
[03:47] <reisio> Ascendion: why not update without reinstalling :p
[03:47] <irctc084> maybe this can help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-removeinstall-and-reconfigure-xorg-without-reinstalling-ubuntu.html geekmasterflash
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> Ascendion, You can booth the iso from grub 2 if you like.
[03:47] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: same but this time 7 not upgraded
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[03:48] <Ascendion> reiso -- wasnt aware that update in place was possible
[03:48] <reisio> Ascendion: yes of course
[03:48] <wafflejock> ooh wilee-nilee was thinking about that for clonezilla how?
[03:48] <reisio> Ascendion: what version is it? What version do you want?
[03:48] <Ascendion> on 12.04 want 13.10
[03:49] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: At this point, you're beyond my skill level to assist. :/ I'd try the suggestions on that link, but unless you can get the dependencies in order I am sure what else I could suggest.
[03:49] <IncrediblePony> It's complaining that it's finding some kind og GPT table or something like that
[03:49] <irctc084> it sounds strange that i'm on a shell and there is no way to acceed to the encripted folde via console?
[03:50] <IncrediblePony> what does that mean?
[03:50] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  thank you again i really appreciate your help
[03:50] <geekmasterflash> irctc084: Uh, burn an iso to a dvd and liveCD it?
[03:50] <irctc084> yes that is what i'm going to try now
[03:50] <geekmasterflash> IncrediblePony: It means you try to dual boot on a protected disc
[03:50] <IncrediblePony> and what do I do if I don't have any discs?
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Has the computer ever had W8 on it?
[03:51] <reisio> Ascendion: I guess the upgrade path for that particular jump would be pretty tedious, even though it shouldn't be :p
[03:51] <reisio> Ascendion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:52] <nullsign> anyone have a good way to generate entropy for gpg creation if you only have access via shell? no mouse - etc
[03:52] <wafflejock> could have saved so many DVDs :)
[03:52] <reisio> well, reinstalling a Unix system for a reason other than changing hardware architecture is a bit silly
[03:52] <reisio> but yeah, you could have
[03:53] <wafflejock> reisio: eh just thinking clonezilla
[03:53] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  wafflejock   i'm inside the encrypted folder !!!!
[03:53] <reisio> oh, diff convo :)
[03:53] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: no it hasn't
[03:53] <IncrediblePony> only w7
[03:53] <pinPoint> what does aptitude -y full-upgrade do exactly? does it help with custom packages?
[03:53] <wafflejock> reisio: no in reply to the ISO booting thing... meaning I can boot from clonezilla iso without burning it, good tip
[03:53] <irctc084> geekmasterflash:  wafflejock   sometimes the thing are so easy that we can not realize straight away!
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, The W8 factory installs are on uefi computers with gpt partitioning, I have seen a few W7 this way. The partition tables are set for gpt and a reloading of standard partitions will throw an error like this.
[03:54] <reisio> wafflejock: ah
[03:54] <wafflejock> irctc084: good to hear it
[03:54] <reisio> wafflejock: or you could just use all the stuff clonezilla has without booting into a new environment :p
[03:54] <irctc084> wafflejock: do you want me to share how?
[03:54] <wafflejock> reisio: yeah but it's nice and makes less mistakes than me
[03:54] <reisio> :p
[03:54] <wafflejock> reisio: I've been using rsync recently with cron
[03:54] <reisio> wafflejock: :)
[03:54] <wafflejock> reisio: but nice to have clonezilla for an occasional full shot
[03:55] <nullsign> anyone have a good way to generate entropy for gpg creation if you only have access via shell? no mouse - etc
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, An apple computer? I'm just trying to track down any gpt possibilities, apples are partioned with gpt.
[03:55] <wafflejock> irctc084: indeed
[03:55] <moppy> nullsign: Hit keys at random? Draw playing cards?
[03:56] <nullsign> moppy: i only have access via shell..
[03:56] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: what can I do to make this go away?
[03:56] <nullsign> moppy: i think it's annoying i need to use a GUI to make a GPG key..
[03:56] <nullsign> moppy: there ought to be a more clean way
[03:56] <wafflejock> nullsign: I'm sure you could use ambient noise or the like in a similar fashion but not sure about anything out of the box
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Answering questions is a good start so we can be sure what we do is appropriate. ;)
[03:57] <moppy> nullsign, gpg --genkey?
[03:57] <nullsign> moppy: correct
[03:57] <nullsign> wafflejock: the best I've got is doing this - for i in {1..1000000}; do echo $RANDOM; done
[03:57] <nullsign> but since /dev/random isn't really random.. im not sure how safe this is?
[03:57] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: Sry, didn't see your question :P - no this is an ASUS computer of the rog gaming series
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, You have a live ubuntu CD?
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> or usb/dvd
 nullsign: Hit keys at random? Draw playing cards?
[03:59] <wafflejock> nullsign: I don't think I really understand the need for entropy in this scenario to advise on how much it matters or not
[03:59] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I'm using USB atm trying to install ubuntu, I've been using UUI and unetbootin to install my ubuntu iso on the USB
[04:00] <wafflejock> nullsign: some advice here http://www.thingy-ma-jig.co.uk/blog/22-01-2010/generate-entropy-gnupg
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, UUI do you mean UEFI, and is that what you want? You still have W7?
[04:01] <IncrediblePony> UUI meaning Universal USB Installer, and W7 is gone.. I've been trying with and w/o W7 on my pc
[04:01] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: same error every time
[04:02] <wafflejock> IncrediblePony: yeah I've used MultiBoot ISO and UUI before a bit but had much better luck with discs in general
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Cool use this app, bootrepair to run just the bootinfo summary, it will tell us some key info on the gpt error post the the url to that summary.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:04] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: but I have no OS atm, will it work if I boot from USB just as a portable?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Yes, take a look at the link, it tells you how to run it from the live ubuntu usb.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, What ai want is just the bootinfo summary it is on the gui, it generates a web link post it.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> I*
[04:06] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  I have Ubuntu 12.04.  Screenshot of my desktop: http://imgur.com/NNlwey3  What I would like my desktop to look like: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Ubuntu_12.04.png
[04:06] <Boneheads1999> basically my goal is to get those cool buttons on the left and the nicer bar at the top
[04:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it's unity
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Dude your stupid to run that OS you have no ides what is there.
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> idea
[04:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: as already suggested you should just download fresh Ubuntu from the site and you'll be good
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> bonehead is right. ;)
[04:07] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock Yeah I am totally up for doing that.. but I have no idea how to.  Could anybody link me to it or
[04:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[04:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: Either way works 12.04 will have slightly longer support since it's a 5 year supported release but either one should be fine
[04:09] <Boneheads1999> Wafflejock:  Okay.  I'll go ahead and download Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32-bit
[04:09] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: just download the file there then follow the instructions linked on the left of the download on how to proceed... basically you're just gonna burn this image to a disc then boot with it in the drive and follow the steps
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Make sure the hardware is up for running 12.04 from a thrift store it may be to old to even boot a pae kernel or powerful enough to run it.
[04:10] <Boneheads1999> I have like 1 GB RAM if that means anything, lol
[04:10] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: what wilee-nilee says is true be sure the hardware is up to snuff
[04:11] <reisio> Boneheads1999: means you have like 1 GB RAM
[04:11] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: you will be better off most likely with Xubuntu or Lubuntu, something with less graphical overhead... perhaps the GPU is okay though
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> Boneheads1999, Thats good, I would just wonder about the chip, and age is all, my comments are basically so you don;t waste your time and use the install that will work.
[04:11] <wafflejock> you may*
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> failure is learning though. ;)
[04:12] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock wait a second
[04:13] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock I don't have a disc drive
[04:13] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock i'm laughing
[04:13] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: no worries see the link reisio pasted up above
[04:13] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[04:13] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: optionally can go the USB route but as I said to others here, haven't been very lucky with that myself
[04:14] <irctc084> geekmasterflash: can you please tell me wich is the shell command to run the xorg?
[04:15] <nightdemon666> startx
[04:15] <irctc084> ok, thank you
[04:16] <Ben64> uh
[04:16] <Ben64> it should be sudo service lightdm start
[04:16]  * wilee-nilee hears Frank Zappa's coneheads in the back ground
[04:18] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I'll go to bed... I'm too tired to get any more done
[04:19] <nightdemon666> Lol, startx doesnt work on ubuntu???
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Sure do your self a favor though and run that bootinfo and use the ubuntu forums for help.
[04:19] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I ran the boot repair but it just claimed success and no link, so I have nothing to give you
[04:20] <MajSlayer> hey guys, how do i install a GUI on ununtu? this dedicated server is pretty much blank..
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, You loaded the ppa and used just the bootinfo summary?
[04:20] <chicognu> nightdemon666, well it shoud work
[04:20] <MajSlayer> anyone got a good link?
[04:20] <reisio> MajSlayer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but
[04:20] <MajSlayer> but..:)
[04:20] <reisio> MajSlayer: it'sll make a _server_ less secure and less efficient
[04:20] <reisio> it'll*
[04:20] <MajSlayer> ahh
[04:21] <MajSlayer> well i best setup ftp them
[04:21] <reisio> MajSlayer: just use ssh
[04:21] <MajSlayer> need red5 rc1 on there
[04:21] <MajSlayer> and not sure how to get it..
[04:21] <reisio> you can mount whatever you need via sshfs
[04:21] <reisio> and it'll look just like any other directory
[04:21] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: I have no idea what I've run tbh.. I'm so tired I can't focus
[04:22] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: the bootinfo is what? and where do I access it?
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Cool, well that script will give important info on the gpt error. The gui of the bootrepair has a bootinfo button you will see it on the web page.
[04:23] <Boneheads1999> Well
[04:23] <Boneheads1999> How do I know if I have GRUB2?
[04:24] <Boneheads1999> sorry gtg
[04:24] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: okay, thank you :) I'll see if I remember it for tomorrow
[04:24] <IncrediblePony> wilee-nilee: nn everyone
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> IncrediblePony, Cool.
[04:24] <lolcat> Hello
[04:25] <lolcat> Is there any simple, easy, non-annoying way to stream audio from ubuntu to dlna?
[04:26] <irctc084> how can i mount a fat32 usb drive via shell?
[04:27] <savorywatt_> nick savorywatt
[04:30] <fahadash> gedit is annoying, how do I make it stop creating extra files with ~ prefixes ?
[04:30] <fahadash> It has filled my whole file system with garbage
[04:30] <fahadash> Or at least, save it somewhere /tmp
[04:35] <nightdemon666> So, as i may assume you already know that those ~ prefixes are "backups" i just learn to deal with the fact that some smarty did me a favor and made it to where a backup copy gets saved automatically, and i can delete if i want to :-) means i need to remember to groom the FS as i go when i make changes to config files :-P
[04:37] <trism> fahadash: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83026/prevent-gedit-from-creating-files-with-the-tilde-suffix
[04:38] <fahadash> nightdemon666, I can manage my own carefulness, no thanks
[04:45] <MajSlayer> what command do i run to install ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10?
[04:45] <Nothing_Much> MajSlayer: You run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[04:45] <MajSlayer> thanks Nothing_Much
[04:47] <wafflejock> fahadash: just use nano or sublime text or geany if you don't like how gedit does things
[04:47] <wafflejock> fahadash: or vi or vim if you like modes
[04:47] <SchrodingersScat> I only use sed
[04:48] <wafflejock> I recently started using jedit for some stuff too it's kinda nice
[04:48] <wafflejock> used it for doing some XML cleanup and the regex search and replace helped a lot
[04:50] <nightdemon666> I just use vi
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: hello mate
[05:04] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: hiya lotuspsychje
[05:06] <Abicus> !umask
[05:07] <wafflejock> Abicus: you can PM ubottu
[05:07] <wafflejock> Abicus: though it does not know umask
[05:07] <Abicus> Ah, didn't think about that. I did see it didn't know umask
[05:09] <wafflejock> Abicus: yeah just figured I'd let you know, I occasionally check it for things
[05:10] <Abicus> It's been a great help for me learning :) Is there anyway to just acquire it's database of links?
[05:11] <SchrodingersScat> Abicus: I've heard of such a thing.  Yes.
[05:11] <Abicus> SchrodingersScat: Love the name. A little dark but clever. How might I find this database?
[05:12] <SchrodingersScat> Abicus: All I know is someone here knows it.
[05:13] <IdleOne> !bot > Abicus
[05:13] <Eliyahu> hello i have a dell inspiron 1526 and the audio isnt appearing to work for the microphone , the video is working and sound is working but not mic for usb webcam or input jack mic
[05:13] <Abicus> Awesome! Thank you IdleOne
[05:14] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: install alsa-mixer
[05:14] <SchrodingersScat> and now i know too
[05:14] <SchrodingersScat> Until the forgetting :(
[05:14] <wafflejock> The more you know *
[05:15] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: sudo apt-get install alsa-mixer
[05:15] <georgij> Hi I am experiencing some issues with my Wireless I can
[05:15] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  thank you
[05:16] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: when you run it (alsa-mixer) you'll see volume sliders and 00 or MM under each one of the sliders, use arrows to move around and M to mute or Unmute use F6 I believe for switching cards
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !details|georgij,
[05:16] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: np
[05:17] <georgij> Hi I am experiencing some issues with my Wireless I can't get it working no matter how much I try, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 Kernel. I can't find it with "ip link" when writing "lspci -k" I find it and it says it's using kernel module: "wl".
[05:18] <wafflejock> georgij: does it show up in iwconfig
[05:18] <georgij> wafflejock: Hi, no it doesn't :(
[05:19] <wafflejock> georgij: think you may not have the right drivers loaded then... use your lspci output to find the appropriate driver is your best bet
[05:19] <Eliyahu> after it installs
[05:19] <Eliyahu> you type alsa?
[05:19] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: alsamixer
[05:20] <georgij> wafflejock: It says that the "Kernel driver in use: wl" from using the command "lspci -k"
[05:20] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: it's very basic graphical interface but is the low level audio controller so if stuff is muted here not sure that it works in pulse or jack
[05:20] <wafflejock> !alsa | Eliyahu
[05:21] <wafflejock> georgij: sorry not sure if that means that it's actually working or it's just the currently loaded though
[05:22] <wafflejock> georgij: I have an Intel 6235 N wifi and it uses iwlwifi
[05:22] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: sorry believe the package was alsa-utils I imagine you got that figured out though
[05:23] <georgij> wafflejock: I have BRoadcam BCM4311. I try to rmmod wl but it just hangs and I have to terminate it with the break character.
[05:23] <Ben64> !broadcom | georgij
[05:23] <Ben64> georgij: you have pretty much the worst wireless chip for linux, it's not easy to get working sometimes
[05:24] <georgij> Ben64: fml? lol
[05:24] <cfhowlett> Ben64, my mileage varies then.  I used the 10.04 ISO for source, editied a couple of files in terminal and fired up my bcm 4312 wifi without even a reboot.  took about 90 second
[05:25] <Ben64> cfhowlett: hence the "sometimes" at the end of my statement :P
[05:26] <Ben64> georgij: i'd suggest getting a cheap well supported usb card, or maybe install a more recent ubuntu
[05:26] <cfhowlett> ^^^ agreed.
[05:26] <wafflejock> georgij: yeah probably Ben64 suggestion is best
[05:27] <wafflejock> georgij: I've bought a few wifi adapters just for OS compatibility in one case OS X but usually aim for something Linux friendly too
[05:27] <Ben64> i couldn't get my broadcom to work at all on my laptop with 12.04, but 13.10 worked out of the box
[05:27] <wafflejock> the preloaded drivers in the kernel for newer versions has been much better recently
[05:28] <Ben64> this is what i got that works on everything ----> www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=8072
[05:28] <wafflejock> Ben64: nice monoprice is mostly amazing
[05:28] <Ben64> indeed it is
[05:29] <wafflejock> Ben64: it is what you pay for but when you don't need much it's great
[05:29] <Ben64> you get much more than what you pay for at monoprice
[05:29] <Boneheads1999> back
[05:29] <Boneheads1999> ok so how do I know if I have Grub2
[05:29] <wafflejock> Ben64: yeah basically what i meant... sometimes the stuff is a bit cheapy but really how classy can a mini USB wifi adapter get
[05:29] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: what version of ubuntu did you install
[05:30] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, run grub-install -v
[05:30] <Ben64> by the way, 1.99 = grub2
[05:30] <Boneheads1999> Ben64: I'm currently downloading 12.04.3 (an .iso file)
[05:31] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: thanks
[05:31] <molgrum> anyone else that can't open empathy contact list?
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: here were my results
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> user@ubuntu:~$ grub-install -v
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> grub-install (GRUB) 1.99-21ubuntu3.10
[05:32] <Beldar> that be grub 2
[05:32] <Boneheads1999> ok thx
[05:33] <impradeepy> hello
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> OK since I don't have a Disc Drive
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> and want to install Ubuntu
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> I'm following the Grub2/ISOBoot
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> instructions
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> which are: Download and store Ubuntu ISOs
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> Create a GRUB 2 menuentry for running the ISO directly from a file
[05:33] <Boneheads1999> Install Ubuntu directly from an ISO file via the GRUB 2 menu
[05:33] <FloodBot1> Boneheads1999: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:34] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: yup sounds like it should work
[05:35] <BlueProtoman> What are some good livestreaming solutions for Ubuntu?
[05:35] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: explain livestreaming?
[05:35] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: not sure where those instructions are from but thats overcomplicated. you can either write the iso directly to a usb drive, or use something like unetbootin to do it
[05:35] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: Streaming from my desktop, that is.
[05:35] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  it said it couldnt find package
[05:35] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: there is XBMC there is VLC
[05:35] <impradeepy> smplayer
[05:35] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: yeah sorry I corrected up there at some point, it's sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[05:35] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: I don't quite think we're on the same page.  I meant streaming the contents of my desktop (i.e. I want the world to be able to see what I'm doing).
[05:36] <BlueProtoman> Kind of like what artists sometimes do.
[05:36] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: ah I'm not sure about live streaming
[05:36] <Boneheads1999> Ben64: well wafflejock said that using a USB drive is less reliable than grub2
[05:36] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: vokoscreen is good for capture
[05:36] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: it works fine
[05:36] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it's been my experience USB is not reliable I'm not familiar with the Grub2 method just to clarify
[05:37] <Boneheads1999> hmm
[05:37] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: Does it stream to the Internet, or does it just record to video?  I want to stream to the Internet.
[05:37] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: just meant for recording
[05:37] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock and Ben64: well I have a flash drive should I just do that?
[05:37] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock: Hrm, that won't do.  I want streaming.
[05:37] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman: perhaps something on Justin.Tv or Ustream not sure though
[05:37] <Ben64> yeah, its simple
[05:37] <Beldar> beware of those more than willing to help you here the especially the longer it takes.
[05:38] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock and Ben64: and I have a flash drive, but it has some stuff on it.  There's plenty room for the .iso, but just sayin'.
[05:38] <wafflejock> Ben64: experience has been not all flash drives end up booting or not all BIOS support boot from USB or work
[05:38] <wafflejock> Beldar: what does that mean?
[05:38] <Ben64> easier to use usb than overwriting the mbr without a way to fix it
[05:39] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  its already green in the synaptic package maneger an installed
[05:39] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: can just run alsamixer from command line then to get in there
[05:39] <Boneheads1999> All I want to know is if I should just go ahead and do the USB drive method
[05:40] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: yes
[05:40] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it's definitely worth a shot if you've got a flash drive around
[05:40] <Boneheads1999> ok.
[05:40] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: I was just saying my experience has been bad with it so giving an alternative
[05:40] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  ok it opened up the mixer now what do i do to test the mic/
[05:41] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: you just want to look around in here for the mic inputs and make sure they don't have MM underneath them
[05:41] <Eliyahu> all of the 0s have green and white and red levels all the way up to the top of the box
[05:41] <Eliyahu> an the nm has nothing in it
[05:41] <Boneheads1999> in the case that it ends up not booting or something from the USB drive, will there be any way to fix it or will I be completely screwed?
[05:42] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: F6 to change sound devices too, look around in the interface to see what you can do... basically you just want to make sure the mics aren't muted here though
[05:42] <Eliyahu> mic boos 100/100
[05:42] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: take out the usb drive and nothing will have been changed
[05:42] <Boneheads1999> oh ok Ben64
[05:42] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: you can use audacity to easily pick between different mic inputs to check if they're working
[05:42] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: sudo apt-get install audacity
[05:43] <Eliyahu> audacity is open
[05:43] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: it's a nicer graphical interface and has a little mic drop down for selecting your inputs so test from there then
[05:43] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: you can also use arecord at the command line... there's some good arch docs on it
[05:43] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture
[05:45] <Boneheads1999> one more question.  Once I have a bootable USB drive, should I shut down the computer then stick it in?  or stick it in on the login screen.. or what do I do?
[05:45] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: I had similar issues... turned out one of them was the USB camera was hooked through a USB hub, the other part was my external mic had actually broken... so hardware failure I mistook for software failure
[05:46] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: well if you want to boot from it, it needs to be in the computer during boot
[05:46] <Boneheads1999> ok
[05:46] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: it should be in there on boot, you can select either boot options at your BIOS POST screen or in the BIOS setup changing the boot priority
[05:47] <ObrienDave> I've had no problems installing to a USB drive
[05:48] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: yeah I have like 5 bootable USB flash drives I use for playing with random distros, it works most of the time, but not on all computers, particularly not on older machines
[05:49] <Eliyahu> wafflejock:  i am middle manning the commands to a new user i set up the ubuntubox and shipped it to that person and now they put their own webcam in and it doesnt have audio but my webcam i tested the audio on worked
[05:49] <ObrienDave> well, no, the computer must support booting from a USB HD, of course
[05:50] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: right but even so I've had situations where some pariticular flash drive doesn't work but then another one in the same machine works it's just more wonky than with a DVD or CD
[05:51] <ObrienDave> This is true, but you cant update the system on a CD or DVD
[05:52] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: well I just use it for install then toss it... it's a bit of an unfortunate waste but worth it for my time
[05:53] <wafflejock> ObrienDave: I just trust that bootable CDs/DVDs which have worked for more than ten years now are all good everywhere always.... except when you have no DVD drive
[05:55] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: would verify they aren't using a hub, even so mine worked in Audacity actually it just wasn't working in google hangouts
[05:56] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: beyond that you can use the stuff in the alsa guide I linked from the arch wiki to use arecord and the like to capture audio if you suspect any problems in audacity, do you see the mic input in alsamixer?
[05:57] <wafflejock> Eliyahu: when you hit F6 in there you should see a USB option if you don't I don't think it's seeing the webcam mic
[05:59] <ObrienDave> wafflejock, also true, that's why I keep a few DVD-RW for installs ;))
[06:01] <MajSlayer> This session appears to be running under ssh, It is not recommended to perform a upgrade over ssh currently because in case of failure it is harder to recover.
[06:01] <MajSlayer> ^ something to really worry about?
[06:02] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: well it's true if ssh can't start back up and you don't have physical access...
[06:02] <MajSlayer> aye says it will make a second shh on port 1022
[06:02] <MajSlayer> but alas, being its a dedicated server, how else can i upgrade it?
[06:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: just saying would make backups if possible
[06:03] <MajSlayer> aye
[06:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: I use AWS they have options for snapshot
[06:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: but like you say it's the only way
[06:03] <MajSlayer> yeah not sure what else to do currently
[06:03] <MajSlayer> being it has nothing on it really, most likely run fine..
[06:04] <MajSlayer> i'll give it a go, what the hey, figure 13.10 is better?
[06:04] <wafflejock> MajSlayer:
[06:04] <wafflejock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes
[06:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: I dunno I've stuck with 12.04 most places still so far
[06:05] <MajSlayer> aye
[06:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: used some PPA to get the latest PHP and Apache but don't see the advantage personally
[06:05] <MajSlayer> heck i'll just give the upgrade a go
[06:06] <MajSlayer> 13.04 was a little flakey to me
[06:06] <MajSlayer> i liked 12 myself
[06:06] <MajSlayer> so maybe .10 will be better
[06:09] <MajSlayer> 54 seconds to download 250mb not bad..
[06:10] <kevin> ATI video card here. is there a way i can quickly switch between radeon and fglrx modules (after reboot of course) or must i continuously uninstall and reinstall fglrx?
[06:11] <kevin> maybe blacklist the module and remove the driver line from xorg.conf or something
[06:12] <babinlonston> Hi all , Any Linux admins Here to give me Good linux Contents for My Blog
[06:12] <Ben64> babinlonston: this is the ubuntu support channel, any other topic does not belong here
[06:12]  * ObrienDave jealous of MajSlayer connection speed ;P
[06:13] <babinlonston> ok
[06:13] <MajSlayer> yeah hope this OneStep server turns out to be good
[06:13] <MajSlayer> but its really my connectin per say...
[06:14] <kevin> sounds reasonable. lets reboot and see what happens
[06:14] <darkelfjuggalo> I just installed a 64-Bit Ubuntu 13.04 ISO into an Acer Aspire 5534 [AMD Anthalon 64] the installer said everything went through properly, and asked me to restart... when I restarted, it cannot find the Operating system
[06:14] <Beldar> babinlonston, An?d this relates to ubuntu how
[06:15] <Beldar> And*
[06:15] <babinlonston> Belder i need Ubuntu Contents so what asked
[06:15] <Beldar> babinlonston, You want some cute little penguins.
[06:16] <ObrienDave> babinlonston, *ubuntu-offtopic
[06:16] <ObrienDave> babinlonston, #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <MajSlayer> okay bit of a problem, being new to grub, when it updated grub (for the 13.04 to 13.10) its asking me to pick /dev/sda (harddrive info here), dev/sda1 boot (225mb) or dev/sda3 (11728mb)
[06:19] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, This a dual boot with say W8, or at least W8 was there at one time?
[06:19] <MajSlayer> what one should i choose? i'm guessong the sda1 boot one correct?
[06:19] <MajSlayer> guessing*
[06:20] <Ben64> MajSlayer: should be sda
[06:20] <MajSlayer> okay so first choice
[06:20] <babinlonston> Beldar: :p Better you Buy some Sheeps and go to field
[06:20] <MajSlayer> just don't want to mess up this upgrade
[06:21] <Beldar> babinlonston, What ever you heard I own no wool. ;)
[06:21] <MajSlayer> havent used linux in 10 years..lol well not over ssh and on a remote computer
[06:22]  * Beldar whistles the coneheads
[06:22] <ObrienDave> lol
[06:22] <ObrienDave> thought that nick was familiar ;)
[06:22] <Beldar> hehe
[06:23] <Eliyahu> how do i set up remote administration in ubuntu 13.10
[06:23] <MajSlayer> well here goes, reboot required, hope this goes well
[06:23] <x1337807x> How would I reload the new shell (just changed to bash) in the middle of a bash script?
[06:23] <Eliyahu> i want to remove an ubuntu box i am needing to fix at another persons house
[06:23] <Eliyahu> i want to remote an ubuntu box i am needing to fix at another persons house
[06:23] <ro9> greeting fellow users
[06:23] <Ben64> Eliyahu: just once is fine
[06:24] <Beldar> ObrienDave, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-U_wH-fVGU
[06:24] <Seb_bday> YouTube Title: 	Frank Zappa - Conehead, Live Performance, 1978 Views: 3,456 Length: 9:16 User: 		tomtiddler1
[06:24] <Beldar> Seb_bday, Your a bot
[06:25] <ro9> my netstat -tap shows netbios-ssn and microsoft-ds where that came from
[06:25] <ObrienDave> OOOO, a Zappa fan, I LIKE you already LMAO
[06:25] <Ben64> ObrienDave, Beldar: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:25] <x1337807x> Is this impossible? Switching from sh to bash mid-script?
[06:26] <Beldar> how about the bot in our midst
[06:26] <Ben64> tell #ubuntu-ops
[06:28] <x1337807x> Maybe just give me a hint? I'm having a hard time Googling for the answer.
[06:29] <Ben64> x1337807x: maybe ask #bash ? but they don't like questions about not-bash
[06:29] <x1337807x> I'll give it a shot, thanks
[06:30] <Tm_T> x1337807x: start the script with "#!/bin/bash" and the rest of the script should be run with bash then I believe
[06:31] <user__> How do I install multiple conky widgets?
[06:32] <x1337807x> Tm_T: Good call, thanks.
[06:32] <linuxlite1983> anyone knows here
[06:32] <Tm_T> x1337807x: you can find more info about that for example from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_%28Unix%29
[06:32] <linuxlite1983> metasploit
[06:32] <linuxlite1983> anyone
[06:33] <robierob> hey room
[06:34] <Beldar> linuxlite1983, there is a channel with that name.
[06:34] <linuxlite1983> ok thaanks
[06:38] <user__> How can I install multiple conky widgets?
[06:39] <Beldar> #conky
[06:42] <nooblet> hello?
[06:42] <nooblet> I have a question regarding openssh
[06:43] <nooblet> I want to shutdown a server and when I log into the super user profile on the server using ssh I type: shutdown -h 03:00 to make it shutdown at 3AM
[06:43] <nooblet> but I want to close off the terminal and shutdown my own computer
[06:44] <nooblet> would closing the terminalcancel the command I sent to the server through ssh?
[06:44] <syrious> I need help with installing AMD Catalyst control center, does anyone have experience with this program?
[06:44] <Ben64> !anyone | syrious
[06:45] <Ben64> nooblet: i've never used shutdown that way, you could try it and find out. or, use something like screen on the server
[06:46] <nooblet> How would you do it?
[06:46] <nooblet> YOu want to shutdown your server at 3AM through Openssh and go to your bed
[06:46] <Ben64> well i never turn my server off, kind of defeats the purpose of a server. but i would use screen
[06:46] <MajSlayer> well dang installing grub onto sda, well not she wont boot
[06:46] <nooblet> shutdown the computer you used to log into the server via SSH
[06:47] <nooblet> ok
[06:50] <wafflejock> nooblet: can possibly setup a cron job to shutdown at 3AM
[06:50] <ObrienDave> MajSlayer, what exactly is it doing or not doing?
[06:50] <wafflejock> nooblet: not sure how the delayed shutdown works though it may be fine too
[06:50] <nooblet> Could you tell me how to do that?
[06:50] <MajSlayer> well i got it to reboot
[06:50] <syrious> ben64: ubottu: I know I've seen you guys on here before, I am very super extra new to the whole of the linux world. I literally have no idea what I'm doing and trying to learn the best I can as I go along. I know it's not the most recommended way to go about learning something new, but it is how I learn. Sadly, when looking for help through the ubuntu forms, chats, and other various support avenues, I am bombarded by people who continuously
[06:50] <syrious>  treat me either like an idiot, or explain things to me as if I have been doing this for a while and know what it is you all are saying. I apologize if I offend anyone or get on anyones nerves, but for once I would like for someone to treat me as I am, a guy, trying to LEARN something, and help me accordingly
[06:50] <MajSlayer> had to use LEAP3 from siglehop and tell it to reboot from there
[06:50] <MajSlayer> just didn't reboot from ssh i guess
[06:50] <wafflejock> nooblet: haven't used it for shutdown but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[06:51] <MajSlayer> but what it wasnts doing was allowing to to ssh back into it, even after 5 mins
[06:51] <MajSlayer> guess putty closed on me before some other question came up, no idea..
[06:52] <Ben64> syrious: the purpose of the !anyone trigger is to get you to actually ask a question. asking if anyone has used "____" doesn't really help. also, ubottu is a bot
[06:53] <wafflejock> syrious: you get a mix in a random online community I try to be nice to people, it's hard though because sometimes you try to help people out and then they turn on you as though you owe them something, don't be offended if people expect you to know something or to try and figure it out for yourself, Ben64 was just trying to get you to explain your problem
[06:53] <ObrienDave> syrious, and going on a "no help" rant does not help either
[06:54] <wafflejock> syrious: the IRC channel has it's own etiquette part of that is when you come here for help you need to include as much detail as you possibly can and explain what you don't know... or else no one can help you
[06:54] <MajSlayer> what command would i type to see what version of Ubuntu i've upgraded to?
[06:54] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: lsb_release -a
[06:54] <MajSlayer> thanks wafflejock
[06:55] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: np
[06:56] <MajSlayer> hmm i dont think it has that package installed...
[06:57] <MajSlayer> how do i download lsb_release package?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> MajSlayer: its not a package but a command to type in terminal
[06:57] <tkelley> 13.10... Whenever I close the laptop lid and open it back up again, the login screen doesn't appear, and I'm forced to restart... is that a known issue?
[06:58] <tkelley> I've got the power options set to suspend on lid close, which is what I want it to do
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: maybe check settings in dconf editor, see if you can fix it there
[06:59] <tkelley> not finding too much online... lots about black screens, but this is my regular screen with no content...mouse works too
[06:59] <ObrienDave> tkelley, or try and moving the mouse, press a key, etc.
[06:59] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: yeah never had to install it honestly not sure
[06:59] <MajSlayer> No command 'lsb_release' found from 'lsb_release' package
[06:59] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: try to just install lsb_release
[06:59] <MajSlayer> k
[06:59] <MajSlayer> ty
[06:59] <Ben64> are you sure you have ubuntu?
[06:59] <tkelley> ObrienDave: yeah, did that... it's worked for me forever on 12.04
[06:59] <tkelley> can't even Ctrl-Alt-F1
[07:00] <tkelley> it's just frozen, except for the mouse
[07:01] <MajSlayer> install missing operand after 'lsb-release'
[07:01] <Ben64> MajSlayer: what does "cat /etc/issue" say?
[07:01] <ObrienDave> typo, check it again ;)
[07:02] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  Running Ubuntu 12.04.  In Mozilla Firefox, on youtube.com, when trying to watch a Youtube video, the spot where the video player should be is just a black or white square/rectangle
[07:02] <Boneheads1999> as in
[07:02] <Boneheads1999> Flash don't work
[07:02] <MajSlayer> Ubuntu 13.10:)
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: maybe this can help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/365595/cant-hibernate-on-lid-close-13-10
[07:02] <ManOfStll> Anyone play Black ops?
[07:02] <MajSlayer> guess i'm upgraded, cool
[07:02] <Ben64> ManOfStll: not on topic here
[07:02] <MajSlayer> ty Ben64
[07:03] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: you need to run flash player installer
[07:03] <ManOfStll> lol
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> Boneheads1999: did you install flashplugin-installer?
[07:03] <MajSlayer> and waffle once again:)
[07:03] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Flash-Player-on-Ubuntu
[07:03] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: de nada
[07:03] <MajSlayer> yeah until my book arrives from amazon
[07:03] <MajSlayer> i'm dangerous:)
[07:04] <MajSlayer> first remote server i've played with only via ssh
[07:04] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: I have books I'm still dangerous
[07:04] <MajSlayer> yep thats how it is:)
[07:04] <MajSlayer> gotta be dangerous to learn
[07:04] <MajSlayer> imo
[07:04] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: to some degree... good to have stable systems too
[07:04] <MajSlayer> no risk, no reward
[07:04] <MajSlayer> oh yeah now thats for sure
[07:05] <MajSlayer> just saying you often do learn things by your mistakes
[07:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: indeed
[07:05] <MajSlayer> granted its a horrible way to go about it.lol
[07:05] <wafflejock> MajSlayer: VirtualBox is great for mistakes
[07:05] <MajSlayer> give a guy a heart-attack.lol
[07:05] <syrious> Ben64: ok fair enough, I did not know that, I will remember that in the future. As for my question, I have an HP 255 g1 notebook computer, I have installed Ubuntu 13.10 on it, the Graphics card does not seem to be pushing the same quality graphics as it did when the computer was on Win 8.1 (the original OS that the computer came with) when I go through the Additional drivers option through the settings tree it only gives me 4 different opti
[07:05] <syrious> ons, and through all of them, nothing seems to change. I have tried to install the AMD Catalyst control center that goes with my hardware specs and even managed to get the correct drivers through AMD's website. I have tried to run a software update through the command line with no luck, and when I run the .run file through gedit (I have no idea what this program really does) it gets all the way through to almost the end, and then fails due
[07:05] <syrious> to some sort of scripting error ( I have not copied the error itself yet, and it will prolly be another 8 hours before I can get the error again if I restarted it now) so my question is this: is there a faster, simpler way to install the software that my hardware calls for? if so, what is it and can I please have it explained to me as if I am in an introductory class?
[07:05] <wafflejock> yeah need the heart
[07:05] <FloodBot1> syrious: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <Boneheads1999> lotuspsychje & wafflejock: Looks like I already have "Adobe Flash plugin".
[07:05] <MajSlayer> last version i use of linux was Mandrake to run a ISP way way back
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> Boneheads1999: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[07:06] <MajSlayer> everything has changed soo much
[07:06] <syrious> well shit, yet another thing I didn't know
[07:06] <Boneheads1999> lotuspsychje: Not yet.  I'll go do that one second.
[07:06] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: do about:plugins in your browser bar to see plugins
[07:06] <syrious> can I please mention now that I have absolutely no experience in IRC either?
[07:07] <ObrienDave> !language | syrious
[07:07] <wafflejock> syrious: heh yeah the bots will make you feel dumb the first week or so :)
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> syrious: asking in a chat is pretty easy
[07:07] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock: Okay, did that.  Shockwave Flash is listed there.
[07:07] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: says version 11,2 something
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Boneheads1999: you did install your grafix driver correctly aswell?
[07:08] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock: Yeah I have version 11.2
[07:08] <ObrienDave> syrious, you just have to be fairly polite about it
[07:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: hmm... sounds like it should be good then dunno
[07:08] <Boneheads1999> wafflejock: I'm gonna go ahead and do the restricted extras
[07:08] <tkelley> lotuspsychje: Hmm... that link still says they don't have the option for the lid switch event: "After rebooting Hibernate menu reappeared in Menu. But still unavailable in Power Settings -> when the lid is closed"
[07:08] <Ben64> syrious: well installing the drivers from the amd site is not supported and shouldn't be done. the Additional Drivers dialog is the correct way
[07:08] <wafflejock> Boneheads1999: I usually prefer chromium-browser myself but I have it in my firefox and it's working
[07:09] <Ben64> !ati | syrious and reading this could help too
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: not sure for 13.10, but i would go dig in dconf editor and check some energy options there
[07:09] <tkelley> I'm having an insane amount of problems with 13.10... is that a common thing?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: it all depends on the machine also
[07:10] <tkelley> I really can't remember having this many problems with 12.04
[07:10] <syrious> Ben64: alright, however, the last time I tried reading that, I got a headache, lol. that and most of what it says sounds oddly like 90% of what I've already tried
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: many others have no issues on 13.10
[07:10] <wafflejock> tkelley: I think 13.10 is still a bit shakey for some... others have said it's solid, not enough experience here to say
[07:10] <tkelley> I'm on the same machine as my 12.04... only thing I've done is swapped out the HD for an SSD, and added some RAM
[07:10] <wafflejock> tkelley: what kinds of bugs?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: think at it this way: you helping the community to bug out
[07:11] <tkelley> that shouldn't affect this type of thing, should it?
[07:11] <syrious> tkelley: out of curiosity, where are you from?
[07:11] <wafflejock> tkelley: well if the RAM has problems you could definitely get errors
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> syrious: plz use this channel for ubuntu support questions
[07:11] <tkelley> well, right now, it's that when I shut my lid and open it back up again, I don't see a login screen
[07:11] <tkelley> I'm in Boston
[07:11] <syrious> fair, was just curious
[07:12] <tkelley> yes, I know it's late :P
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> syrious: we have a nice chitchat channel at #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:12] <tkelley> I've been struggling with this install for a few days... my productivity at work has tanked :(
[07:12] <wafflejock> tkelley: always backup, always
[07:12] <syrious> lotuspsychje: I will keep that in mind
[07:13] <tkelley> oh it's not about backing up
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: best way is to grab 1 problem at once, and fix it in support here
[07:13] <Ben64> tkelley: then don't shut the lid? or change it so shutting the lid doesn't activate any power saving features?
[07:13] <wafflejock> yeah with the SSD boot time isn't a big deal
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> maybe unity-wteak got energy tweaks aswell?
[07:13] <wafflejock> firing back up a few apps isn't a big deal, if you use KDE it restores the session
[07:13] <tkelley> Ben64: But on the same machine, I've been shutting the lid on 12.04 for at least a year... And I know that one of these days it's gonna overheat in my bag :P
[07:14] <Ben64> then set it to shut down when the lid is closed?
[07:15] <tkelley> no, no... I don't think I'm being clear... sorry :( My issue is that now that I've *up*graded, I'm having to go through all these hoops to do things the same way I used to
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: with your ssd speed it will be speed boot anyway :p
[07:15] <tkelley> I know, I know... it's like 20 seconds, which is awesome :D
[07:15] <tkelley> but still... it used to be 5 to open the lid, you know?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: try a clean install, maybe beter luck or wait for 14.04 to come out
[07:15] <wafflejock> tkelley: that's why I was saying you should back up before you upgrade so you can go back more easily.. just made the same mistake myself... had rsynced everything but wish I had just dd'ed it
[07:16] <tkelley> haha this is a clean install! I've done a fresh install about 8-10 times today
[07:16] <Ben64> tkelley: and whats why i stay on LTS versions
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: oh ok
[07:16] <tkelley> blargh
[07:16] <wafflejock> went from 13.04 to 13.10 and ran into some graphics issues I didn't want to deal with... so downgraded back to 12.04
[07:16]  * lotuspsychje skipped 13.10 :p
[07:16] <tkelley> how big of a difference is 12.04 and 13.10? is it worth it?
[07:16] <tkelley> (vague question, I know...sorry)
[07:16] <wafflejock> tkelley: I don't think so... look at the changelog
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: all depends on what your needs are
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: if you are the guy, liking to test new versions..
[07:17] <tkelley> just for java development, web dev... apache, mysql, etc
[07:17] <tkelley> nothing fancy
[07:17] <wafflejock> tkelley: no not really I do web dev too have a different PPA for the latest PHP but that's about it
[07:17] <tkelley> cartainly nothing graphics-intensive
[07:17] <wafflejock> tkelley: look at the changelog though
[07:17] <tkelley> ok, I'll do that
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: if you want longer stable support, stick to LTS like Ben64 suggested
[07:17] <wafflejock> tkelley: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[07:18] <Ben64> lotuspsychje, tkelley: yeah, especially since the non-lts versions are only supported for 9 months now
[07:18] <tkelley> right
[07:18] <tkelley> so in short, I'm not weird if I were to go back to 12.04... :)
[07:18] <wafflejock> no
[07:18] <wafflejock> that would be sane
[07:19] <tkelley> like, that's actually a thing that some people do
[07:19] <tkelley> ok
[07:19] <tkelley> haha
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: 14.04 is about to come...so good news for lts world
[07:19] <tkelley> is that LTS?
[07:19] <wafflejock> long term support
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !lts | tkelley
[07:19] <wafflejock> !lts
[07:19] <Ben64> yep, every 2 years
[07:19] <wafflejock> beat me to it
[07:19] <tkelley> no, i know what it means
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> :p
[07:19] <tkelley> just didn't know if this version was it
[07:19] <wafflejock> yeah every 2 years so 12.04 then 14.04
[07:19] <tkelley> sweet
[07:19] <Ben64> even.04 is LTS
[07:20] <tkelley> I gather that the benefit there is that there's more dev effort on it?
[07:20] <tkelley> it's supported for longer, so more things get fixed, etc?
[07:20] <Ben64> much longer support, more focus on stability, and way less upgrading to do
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: it all depends on your machine... i had not 1 issue on 13.04 on my machine
[07:20] <wafflejock> tkelley: yeah just means it's focused on security upgrades for longer
[07:21] <tkelley> yeah, I think every issue I've had has been with graphics
[07:21] <tkelley> nvidia
[07:21] <wafflejock> tkelley: pretty much all graphics or wifi issues
[07:21] <Ben64> most problems are with laptops really
[07:21] <wafflejock> tkelley: everything else generally works fine
[07:21] <Ben64> they have funky hardware setups
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> and many machines run out of the box too!
[07:21] <tkelley> do the LTS releases do more to address those types of problems?
[07:22] <wafflejock> yeah I've installed on lots of random machines doing IT work just too see if it works, most of the time the answer is yes minus wifi
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: last laptop i did had uefi, and just installed 13.04 out of the box, no issues, no bios tuning..
[07:23] <wafflejock> tkelley: LTS at least with 12.04 seems to work a bit more reliabiably in general, it was just a good release
[07:23] <tkelley> cool
[07:23] <shijo> hello
[07:23] <wafflejock> tkelley: experience will vary with different hardware though for sure
[07:23] <user__> How can I remove all files in a dir matching *string*?
[07:23] <tkelley> that settles it... I'm downloading it now :P
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> tkelley: that doesnt mean 14.04 will not have problems with your machine at the launch
[07:24] <tkelley> right
[07:24]  * xmetal agrees with lotuspsychje, 100% 
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> shijo: welcome mate, what can we do for you?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> user__: man rm
[07:25] <xmetal> everytime i see "Precise" i think of that guy from Lord of the Rings, Smeagle
[07:25] <xmetal> lol
[07:25] <wafflejock> precious
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> 15.04 smiling smeagol
[07:26] <Beldar> tkelley, You believed all that, hey I gotta bridge held by the nigerian royal family for sale.
[07:26] <user__> lotuspsychje: it says nothing about pattern matching
[07:26] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: 15.04 will XX
[07:26] <tkelley> I'll believe anything after spending two days banging my head against a wall
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: :p
[07:26] <Beldar> ;)
[07:27] <Guest62610>  
[07:27] <xmetal> lol ... smeagol  on the ubuntu development team ... just sitting there going "precissssssssse" .... then getting yelled at for not finishing the code he was suppose to get done
[07:27] <xmetal> i can see it now
[07:27] <user__> How can I remove all files in a dir matching a string?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> user__: so you want only specific files deleted from a folder?
[07:28] <user__> yeah
[07:28] <user__> all containing the same string
[07:28] <Ben64> user__: rm /path/to/directory/*foobar*
[07:28] <user__> thanks
[07:29] <user__> Ben64: btw they are .file files/dirs. Getting "no such file or dir exists" errors
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> user__: or here with a specific extension: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104831/how-to-delete-all-the-files-with-a-certain-extension-from-a-folder-and-all-of-it
[07:30] <tkelley> user__: Are you using the full path?
[07:30] <Ben64> user__: you want to delete directories too?
[07:30] <user__> yeah directories too
[07:31] <Ben64> then add -fr after the rm
[07:31] <Ben64> and be very careful with it, one wrong move will delete everything
[07:31] <wafflejock> yeah especially with a sudo
[07:31] <wafflejock> it's the nuclear detonator of linux, that and dd
[07:31] <user__> awesome, thanks gusy
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> !yay | user__
[07:32] <Ben64> pretty much anything with sudo and wildcards is full of danger
[07:32] <wafflejock> Ben64: true
[07:32] <Ben64> people here have chmodded the entire partition to 777 and stuff
[07:32] <wafflejock> heh yeah that's no good either
[07:32] <tkelley> yikes lol
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm makes me think, i was looking for a bomb command to zero my hd's fast way if fbi rings my door
[07:33] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: not really fast but dd does the trick I believe
[07:33] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: think a hammer is faster though
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: will it not be recoverable after?
[07:33] <xmetal> hmm not a command but you could install windows 8 on it
[07:33] <xmetal> :P
[07:34] <tkelley> a guy put magnets around his doorframe on SVU one time :P
[07:34] <wafflejock> the hammer?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: lol
[07:34] <Ben64> dd is the fastest and best way to zero a drive, but you can't do it from itself
[07:34] <tkelley> and the cops obviously realized like 3 feet too late haha
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: will photorec not be able to recover after dd zero?
[07:34] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: not at all
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: nice
[07:34] <wafflejock> EMP is the best solution
[07:34] <Ben64> its full of zeros if you did it right, so you can recover... zeros
[07:35] <wafflejock> 007 that sucka
[07:35] <ObrienDave> hammer is way more effective
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: got it
[07:35] <Ben64> can retrieve info from hammered drive
[07:35] <ObrienDave> not the way I would do it LOL
[07:35] <wafflejock> plus gives you a reason to buy a high amperage coil and capacitors you've been eyeing, which will give the FBI a reason to come
[07:35] <wafflejock> heheh
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> yes indeed, there are special companys who recover magnetic spindle
[07:36] <xmetal> hmm this didn't ruin the pc, but just kicked a guy i know offline ... everytime he used his microwave, his wifi internet connection would die
[07:36] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol
[07:36] <xmetal> lol i can see someone hammering the heck out of the HDD, then remembering they just ordred a pizza and it's the delivery guy
[07:36] <ObrienDave> LMAO
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:36] <xmetal> (parinoid)
[07:37] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Guys, who has experience in dual-booting win8-64 and Ubuntu LTS 64?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: is it an uefi machine?
[07:37] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Yes
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: can you describe whats happening?
[07:38] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Well, i have the live CD(atm i have 32bit, getting 64) and i get into grub to change boot priority. But grub won't see my CD drive
[07:38] <Ben64> j4ckxandxj1ll: grub?
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: you mean bios perhaps?
[07:39] <j4ckxandxj1ll> -_- sorry i always get them confused
[07:39] <Guest22689> Hi all, How do I 'automount' my NAS so it shows up as drives automatically in ubuntu?
[07:39] <Ben64> !fstab | Guest22689
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | j4ckxandxj1ll
[07:40] <Guest22689> Thanks Ben64 :0
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: set cd to boot first in bios
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: or try with liveusb
[07:40] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Thing is, my bios won't see my CD drive. I will try with a USB
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: i would choose to disable secureboot and install ubuntu on whole hd
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: loose w8 once and for good :p
[07:41] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol ikr win8 sucks
[07:41] <j4ckxandxj1ll> But i need it for games :3
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: you can game on ubuntu aswell
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: steam, playonlinux, appdb
[07:41] <nannes> oh, games... that's *THE* problem that people face
[07:42] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I have tried installing League of legends on Ubuntu, and it gives me hell with nvidia cards
[07:42] <nannes> it's always the same
[07:42] <j4ckxandxj1ll> ik lol
[07:42] <ObrienDave> oh, the importang things of life LOL
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: try with playonlinux
[07:42] <ObrienDave> *important
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | j4ckxandxj1ll
[07:42] <nannes> :)
[07:42] <tkelley> :curses nvidia:
[07:42] <tkelley> (for the umpteenth time today...seriously)
[07:43] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I did try with playonlinux, bt it worked on one PC, not on the nvidia one :P
[07:43] <nannes> lotuspsychje: Realistically, win games will never run decently inside linux
[07:43] <j4ckxandxj1ll> My new Laptop has a nvidia card
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> nannes: thats not true! did you check dell alienware boxes?
[07:44] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Alienware with Linux oO really wanna try that
[07:44] <nannes> lotuspsychje: Well i'm talking about *REAL* gaming.  High graphics modes
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> nannes: http://www.alienware.com/ubuntu/
[07:44] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Like BF4 ultra xD
[07:44] <j4ckxandxj1ll> But i just play LoL, Minecraft and AC2 :P maybe BF3
[07:44] <ObrienDave> oh, the important things of life
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> j4ckxandxj1ll: if you want a stable and secure Os for everyday, use ubuntu on full hd :p
[07:46] <j4ckxandxj1ll> ik ik :P have been using Ubuntu full HDD since i was 5, and i am 16 now
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> not sure on how virtualbox will perform on gaming
[07:46] <ObrienDave> even worse
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> right
[07:46] <j4ckxandxj1ll> virtualbox for gaming is baad :P
[07:47] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Unless u wanna play Mario with a i7 xD
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> time someone invents a multiarch deamon-tools like gaming engine
[07:47] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Game developers should write games for Windows.... racists
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> well opensource and money...
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> but lets move back to support
[07:48]  * ObrienDave wonders where the OT police are now
[07:48] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol ya
[07:48] <nannes> j4ckxandxj1ll: Well those games aren't really enough interesting to be the cause of keeping windows. I mean, if you talk about crysis,COD,PES... I would agree!
[07:48] <Beldar> remlak
[07:49] <nannes> but not those xD
[07:49] <j4ckxandxj1ll> meh, cod xD I can do that on wine
[07:49] <j4ckxandxj1ll> never played crysis
[07:49] <nannes> COD on wine?  lol I don't wanna guess how much it sucks in graphics that way
[07:49] <FloodBot1> fe3Fxrf34Fj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:49] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol
[07:50] <j4ckxandxj1ll> nannes, i wish i could UPGRADE to win7 :P
[07:50] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> it's true
[07:50] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I will be getting my Ubuntu 12.04.3 64bit on the weekend, i will be back here if i need help ^^
[07:50] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Now i gtg study, see ya
[07:51] <nannes> buez
[07:51] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> you pedos all wanted to talk to him
[07:51] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> that's why you weren't interested in me... you're a bunch of pedophiles
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> !ops | fe3Fxrf34Fj
[07:51] <ObrienDave> no feeding the troll
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> here's an interesting thread about ubuntu gaming: http://askubuntu.com/questions/163903/gaming-performance-difference-between-windows-and-ubuntu
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> it's not my fault you all want to rape boys
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> Myrtti: tnx
[07:52] <Myrtti> fe3Fxrf34Fj: stop.
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> stop what
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> protecting the innocent?
[07:52] <ObrienDave> being a jerk
[07:52] <fe3Fxrf34Fj> i made my life standing up to bad guys
[07:52] <Myrtti> fe3Fxrf34Fj: this is a Ubuntu support channel, not your soapbox for whatever you're doing
[07:53] <user> How can I swap my fn and ctrl keys around?
[07:53] <Myrtti> fe3Fxrf34Fj: if you don't have a Ubuntu support question or issue or aren't helping in them, then please refrain from whatever you're doing
[07:54] <Ben64> user: you likely cannot, fn usually doesn't appear as anything to the OS
[07:54] <Feelsenburg> is preseeding still the "best" way to install ubuntu unassisted?
[07:55] <user> Ben64: I was able to do it with the original lenovo bootloader
[07:55] <user> but I've formatted since then
[07:55] <Ben64> lenovo bootloader?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> Feelsenburg: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-intro.html
[07:57] <user> Ben64: sorry bios
[07:57] <Myrtti> user: and why can't you do it in bios now?
[07:57] <Feelsenburg> Thanks. I was reading through that actually. Still seems to be the preferred method then.
[07:57] <Ben64> user: formatting doesn't change the bios...
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> Feelsenburg: if thats what you need, yes
[07:58] <user> good point
[07:58] <user> having trouble accessing it
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> user: maybe the ##hardware channel might know
[07:59] <Feelsenburg> Well, I was looking for a kickstart equivalent for ubuntu
[08:00] <Myrtti> Feelsenburg: that document doesn't have a bit about kickstart?
[08:00] <Myrtti> Feelsenburg: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[08:02] <Feelsenburg> interesting.
[08:03]  * ObrienDave hears kickstart, thinks Amiga boot disk LOL
[08:05]  * lotuspsychje hears amiga thinks c64 press play on tape
[08:05] <ObrienDave> LOL
[08:06] <lvleph> Could someone point me in the direction of a how to for converting an EFI boot to an MBR boot for grub?
[08:07] <lvleph> There are plenty that go the other direction, but...
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | lvleph
[08:08] <xmetal> and back awhile ago i here "precise" and I rhink of Ubuntu 15.04 Smiling Smeagol
[08:08] <xmetal> er hear *
[08:09] <lvleph> lotuspsychje, the only directions on there that seem related requires a BIOS, but I am on a Mac
[08:09] <lonmarlon> hello
[08:09] <lonmarlon> i'm using a lightdm
[08:09] <auronandace> !mac | lvleph
[08:09] <wokko_> hello
[08:09] <lvleph> and Boot-repair doesn't work
[08:10] <wokko_> no
[08:10] <lonmarlon> i'm unable to use xlaunch in windows
[08:10] <lvleph> thank you auronandace I have read that
[08:10] <lonmarlon> could someone guide me or give me an idea
[08:11] <lonmarlon> regarding about my host ubuntu 12.04 uses lightdm
[08:11] <lonmarlon> i'm unable to use xlaunch through my host
[08:11] <lvleph> lonmarlon, are you using a vm?
[08:11] <lonmarlon> no
[08:12] <lvleph> What do you mean by host? SSH
[08:12] <lonmarlon> another computer
[08:12] <lvleph> and how are you getting into the server is what I am asking
[08:13] <lonmarlon> xlaunch
[08:13] <lonmarlon> i'm trying to use xlaunch i can login through ssh
[08:14] <lvleph> why not x forwarding?
[08:14] <lonmarlon> xlaunch = so it could like a remote desktop
[08:14] <lvleph> I don't know anything about xlaunch, but x forwarding using ssh may be easier and enough?
[08:15] <lonmarlon> i would to see the desktop
[08:15] <lvleph> ok, nm
[08:15] <lonmarlon> not only the through shell
[08:15] <auronandace> !vnc | lonmarlon
[08:16] <lonmarlon> should i also install vnc on my server? aside from my pc
[08:16] <wafflejock> lonmarlon: yes
[08:16] <lonmarlon> aah ok i'll try
[08:16] <wafflejock> lonmarlon: you need VNC on both sides search for SSH tunnel for VNC
[08:16] <wafflejock> lonmarlon: that way can keep it all through SSH if you'd like
[08:17] <lonmarlon> thanks i understand
[08:21] <sometux> looking for onscreen keyboard for kde???
[08:24] <reisio> sometux: apt-cache search keyboard | grep -i kde
[08:40] <DarthDepa> Hi guys :) Is it possible that, with an HP 250 G1 (notebook), with only one video-card (Intel), I get screen shutdown at Ubuntu 13.10's boot?
[08:40] <DarthDepa> Both live and installed version...
[08:40] <DarthDepa> And 13.04 too...
[08:40] <reisio> if you're saying that happens, I'd have to say it's possible, yes
[08:41] <DarthDepa> reisio: lol yes :) Happens... Why?? Is it possible that depends on UEFI?
[08:41] <reisio> DarthDepa: I doubt it
[08:42] <DarthDepa> Which may be the problem?
[08:43] <DarthDepa> A not supported video card?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> DarthDepa, pretty low spec machine.  you might find it's happier with lubuntu/xubuntu.
[08:44] <DarthDepa> If I connect and external monitor, works fine
[08:44] <reisio> DarthDepa: look around during bootup for an option called 'nomodeset'
[08:44] <DarthDepa> and if I remove it, works with laptop monitor
[08:45] <omri> Is there an official mysql 5.6 package for precise? or any official mysql 5.6 package for that matter?
[08:45] <reisio> DarthDepa: so it works, but only after you connect an external monitor & disconnect it?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !mysql
[08:45] <DarthDepa> reisio: yes
[08:45] <TazmainianDevil> hi all I am running ubntu-server 12.04. I have two call two scripts in my /etc/rc.local file to be started at boot however only one gets executed how can I get both to execute ?
[08:45] <VanessaE> ok, I've got a new problem - my machine hard-freezes when coming up from suspend.   Some cursory googling shows others with similar problems.  Where do I do now?
[08:45] <reisio> omri: nope
[08:46] <VanessaE> er, what do I do*
[08:46] <omri> :\
[08:46] <reisio> DarthDepa: is there a display on/off Fn+F# key combo on the keyboard?
[08:46] <DarthDepa> reisio: no :(
[08:47] <DarthDepa> reisio: there is only the possibility to switch between monitors... but not works...
[08:48] <wiel> i used the app on pendrive linux's site to make ubuntu bootable and persistent on a usb stick. now ubuntu wont boot and i need an important file from the persistent storage
[08:48] <wiel> what can i do?
[08:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: no problem with Windows 8 and 7...
[08:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: the notebook is new...
[08:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: just unpacked...
[08:50] <reisio> DarthDepa: doesn't tell you much that it works in Windows
[08:51] <DarthDepa> reisio: XD I told you only in order to exclude hardware problem :) I hate Windows...
[08:51] <DarthDepa> reisio: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201301-12667/components/
[08:51] <reisio> :p
[08:52] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, it may help understanding your problem if you give us the pastebin link to your /etc/rc.local file.
[08:52] <DarthDepa> reisio: means that is supported, right?
[08:53] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, um well my rc.local calls two cripts I made, let me upload them as well.
[08:53] <reisio> DarthDepa: dunno, looks that way
[08:53] <DarthDepa> reisio: which way?? :)
[08:54] <reisio> the way you described, "supported"
[08:54] <MajSlayer> would installing TeamView be a good idea to ssh into a dedicated remote server, would it allow me access to a desktop? or would it still just be console only?
[08:54] <DarthDepa> reisio: I don't know if is a "support" issue... :( If I remove the external monitor, works fine...
[08:54] <reisio> you said :p
[08:54] <DarthDepa> reisio: maybe lightdm problem?? but I trought with GDM and not works at all
[08:55] <DarthDepa> reisio: no, I ask you :)
[08:55] <reisio> DarthDepa: I'd try booting http://sysresccd.org/ and seeing if there is a different result
[08:55] <reisio> that would rule many other things out
[08:55] <reisio> it also has many boot options that could rule even more things out
[08:55] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, http://pastebin.com/dhpFDgxF
[08:56] <DarthDepa> reisio: so, you suggest me that live and see if screen works?
[08:56] <reisio> DarthDepa: yup
[08:57] <DarthDepa> reisio: I will check :) And come here to tell you result...
[08:57] <reisio> ok
[08:58] <TazmainianDevil> Let me rephras, I am running ubntu-server 12.04. I have two call two scripts in my /etc/rc.local file to be started at boot however only one gets executed how can I get both to execute ? http://pastebin.com/dhpFDgxF
[08:58] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, do you background them?
[08:59] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, how do I get the first one to background ? The crucible one backgrounds itself
[08:59] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, is it the "perforce.sh" script that doesn't get executed?
[08:59] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, no the crucible-start doesn't get executed
[08:59] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, add " &" (space, ampersand) at end of both lines. also, make sure your bash scrit starts with #!, not just !.
[09:00] <varunendra> +1 ^^
[09:00] <jsonwhite> has anyone set up a virtualized environment with ubuntu? and mind explaining how to manually set up shared folders
[09:00] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, it does start with a # just the copy that was being stupid. Do I need to add a & ad the end of the cd line as well ?
[09:01] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, no. just in the RC file. & makes the left-side command run as a background job.
[09:01] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, awh I see what you mean let me try
[09:01] <slut_tits> Bu
[09:01] <slut_tits> Hi
[09:02] <cfhowlett> slut_tits, change the name please.  this is a family friendly channel
[09:02] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, also there are some points where you can optimize performance and stability of your scripts once you learn more about bash scripting.
[09:03] <Sven_vB> nothing bad in this case, though
[09:03] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I will have a look, these scripts are currently just to get two program running at boot time.
[09:04] <TazmainianDevil> programs *
[09:04] <the_drow> What's the equivalent of visio in ubuntu?
[09:04] <reisio> the_drow: I believe koffice and libreoffice both have alternatives
[09:05] <Emi_> Hello
[09:05] <reisio> Emi_: 'lo
[09:06] <reisio> the_drow: oh yeah koffice is calligra now
[09:06] <reisio> libreoffice draw / calligra flow
[09:07] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, okay the perforce one worked like a charm, the curcible one said it was starting but didn't launch correctly. Is there a way I can delay it being executed ?
[09:07] <Sven_vB> the_drow, looking for flow diagrams?
[09:07] <andreiiar> Is there any difference on calling scrips from /etc/init.d from calling them with invoke-rc.d??? Why shuld I call them one way or the other????
[09:08] <reisio> andreiiar: you should probably call them with sudo service FOO
[09:08] <reisio> andreiiar: ...because that is how you're intended to
[09:09] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, after, cd, sleep 10s
[09:09] <andreiiar> I was told to run them directly from init.d folder but I've seen people calling them with invoke-rc.d. Nobody uses service
[09:09] <linu1> hi all i have been trying to read atr valuse using pn533 nfc reader,using libnfc and pcscd,when i started deamon it shows me http://pastebin.com/MKDVDfsb  can you please help me
[09:09] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I mean I want to delay the curcible-start one ?
[09:10] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, "sleep 10 && exec /Crucible/bin/start.sh"
[09:10] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, sorry, confused them. replace line 16 with ( sleep 10s; /etc/init/crucible-start ) &
[09:10] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, don't sleep in the main process of your rc or you will delay the whole script.
[09:11] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, oops
[09:11] <TazmainianDevil> xD
[09:11] <Sven_vB> however ( .. ) & makes all those go to background, including sleep.
[09:11] <varunendra> Sven_vB, never thought about that delay thing, thanks for pointing that out :)
[09:12] <TazmainianDevil> varunendra, so I put "sleep && exec ... " in the crucible-start ?
[09:12] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, just read what Sven_vB said about it after my msg
[09:13] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I put the sleep in my rc.local and it worked lol. so it goes /root/perforce.sh &   new line sleep 20 new line /etc/init/crucible-start &
[09:13] <allstarsnorks2> Hi guys
[09:14] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, that is varunendra's solution, which will delay your rc. that is unelegant, and might probably earn you warnings about bad startup performance once you have analysis software for that.
[09:14] <user82> hi. i created a shortcut for matlab in /usr/share/applications/ and now when i start it from the unity lens it runs and then shuts down again after a second or so. when i run the same command in the terminal it works well. did i miss anything?
[09:14] <varunendra> TazmainianDevil, yup, I agree completely with Sven_vB
[09:15] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, yeah before you said don't put it in the rc.local file I had already done that and rebooted.
[09:15] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, ok. then try better with ( ... ) &
[09:15] <allstarsnorks2> I feel stupid now. I just borrowed the"Official Ubuntu Book" CD, thinking it was an Ubuntu tutorial but it was actually a distribution of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS XD
[09:15] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, so with the curcible-start file would would it be "sleep 30 " new line " exe ..." ?
[09:16] <reisio> allstarsnorks2: but since you're online, you can get anything
[09:16] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, well, you can do that, but if you're not maintainer of the file in /etc/init/, don't touch it, or you get edit conflicts on updates.
[09:17] <Sven_vB> ( sleep 30s; /etc/init/crucible-start ) & <--- should work just fine
[09:18] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, where would i put what you just said about the ( sleep ...) ?
[09:18] <Sven_vB> this way, sleep is not in your rc process, because the & makes all the ( ... ) go to background, including sleep
[09:18] <Sven_vB> you'd put that in your RC
[09:18] <Sven_vB> replacing line 16 of your pastebin
[09:18] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, awh I see. What about be the best way to get thing to start at boot time ?
[09:18] <allstarsnorks2_> is it really necessary to have a SWAP partition?
[09:19] <Sven_vB> i think the latest fashion is to wirte upstart jobs
[09:19] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, I'm not sure ubuntu-server 12.04 has that yet ?
[09:19] <GnubNix> You can run without swap, but it's more effecient to have a small amount of swap available unless you're running on very small partitions on an SSD or something like that.
[09:19] <Sven_vB> allstarsnorks2_, no. if you have 2 GB RAM or more, you usually won't want a swap.
[09:20] <reisio> allstarsnorks2_: they're pretty useful, even when you don't need them for day to day operations
[09:20] <aeon-ltd> allstarsnorks2: necessary? no. useful, yes
[09:20] <pirret> 2GB no swap?!
[09:20] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, i don't know details about upstart, just read it somewhere.
[09:20] <pirret> my browser alone takes almost 2GB ram :P
[09:20] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, but with an SSD you wouldn't want to swap in anycase
[09:20] <reisio> if you want to hibernate you're usually going to want swap, for example
[09:21] <allstarsnorks2_> I'm really happy to find out that it is legal to distribute Ubuntu.
[09:21] <Sven_vB> hibernate never cleanly works for me, anyway. (even with a swap. ;-) )
[09:22] <TazmainianDevil> allstarsnorks2_, its open source you allowed to modify and distrubute your version of it
[09:22] <allstarsnorks2_> by the way, i want to wish Ubuntu an advanced 10th anniversary
[09:23] <tim_> angel4tim
[09:23] <the_drow_> reisio: Oh found it. Thanks!
[09:23] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil, SSD lifetime isn't a problem anymore. At least not on a simple workstation machine. you will be hard pressed to hit a write lock even if you tried. I prefer to have a little swap available. Lots of people don't, but if i can afford the space then i'm happy to do it :)
[09:25] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, would you happen to know if the vertext 3's lifetime isnt an issue? Then how is that lifetime affected if you use parted magic using secure internal wipe to clean it before you reload ?
[09:26] <Sven_vB> TazmainianDevil, in a twist, use a cheaply replaceable SSD for just swap and nothing important. this way, if it breaks, no big deal.
[09:26] <jsonwhite> linux is so frustrating...
[09:26] <allstarsnorks2_> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - Pretty nifty
[09:26] <reisio> jsonwhite: nah
[09:26] <TazmainianDevil> Can anyone give me a good link to understand how to create and view users as well as user groups ?
[09:26] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, yeah. real pity that there's no cool OS out there.
[09:26] <allstarsnorks2_> Ubuntu 12.04 says I havw 2GB Disk space, but I have 40GB!
[09:27] <TazmainianDevil> Sven_vB, true, I mean there are those hybrid drives now with the ssd's on
[09:27] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil as far as i know the secure erase function just flips a switch in the controller to set all the nand chips to 0. Wether or not each 0 would count as a write is a good question.
[09:27] <Sven_vB> allstarsnorks2_, are you using gparted to prepare partitions for install?
[09:27] <allstarsnorks2_> no, I'm on Ubiquity rn
[09:28] <jsonwhite> let me correct myself, commandline is frustrating....
[09:28] <Sven_vB> allstarsnorks2_, i made good experience with managing them in gparted before starting ubiquity.
[09:28] <fishcooker> i have 1GB memory ... this is my #free -m result here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6452417/ ... is my all memory are almost used ?
[09:28] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, why that?
[09:28] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, that is true, I mean with a normal HDD you can refresh the surface using spin right , hard drive regenirator or even just a nwipe
[09:31] <jsonwhite> gui makes it so easy to move around files... it probably spoiled me... declaring directories and learning new functions take too long... so many errors, can't even figure out what went wrong half the time
[09:31] <allstarsnorks2_> Installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a real burned CD takes a hella long time. LOL
[09:31] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, for moving files more graphically, have you tried midnight commander?
[09:32] <ihre> is there a sed -i (inline) equivalent for awk?
[09:32] <Sven_vB> *-i (in place)
[09:32] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil I have used Spinrite to fix a drive before actually :). Not a bad product. I've never used the "refresh" functionality though. As for your vertex 3, i'm not 100% up to date on all brands, but I read an article on Anandtech where they said the Samsung 840 Pro which i currently have has a lifespam of about 20 years with 20GB of writes a day or something like that. You can have a read here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6459/sam
[09:32] <reisio> #awk
[09:32] <GnubNix> sung-ssd-840-testing-the-endurance-of-tlc-nand
[09:32] <FloodBot1> GnubNix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <allstarsnorks2_> ubuntuAPT: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity
[09:33] <jsonwhite> nope. it's commandline iirc
[09:33] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: I really struggle to understand how to move files around with a GUI
[09:33] <bn`> I get the 403 http error with a default apache2 installation on ubuntu and accessing the server IP in the browser without path. How to fix this?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> how do you know which little box is which?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> bn`: well, 403 is permission denied, isn't it?
[09:33] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, it's pseudo-graphics on the command line, like norton commander if you know that
[09:33] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, well with spin right you can fix the bad sectors and then with hard driver regenerator you can refresh the survace prett cool
[09:34] <gordonjcp> bn`: so maybe look at the logs and see if you can work out what it was trying to do
[09:34] <bn`> gordonjcp: yes why is the default installation with the "it works" index.html in it 403?
[09:34] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Ok, good to know thanks :)
[09:34] <gordonjcp> jeez, spinrite, there's a blast from the past
[09:34] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: let me ask, if i really really spent some time learning command line, how long would it take me to feel comfortable with it? right now I can't even mount a sharefolder in virtualbox (my starting point)
[09:34] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, if you don't yet have mouse support on your command line, check gpm
[09:35] <bn`> ok thx.. there..
[09:35] <GnubNix> Time to learn the terminal depends on the person. understanding the file system structure will help a lot though
[09:35] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, it's the other way around. it's about how much lifetime you waste clicking the same buttons again until you're frustrated and want to start automating stuff.
[09:37] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: well for me, it's about trying to get the right tools/ setting up a developing environment... trying to get into programming... also feel free to explain what would you even need to automate...
[09:39] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, to estimate years, may i ask how much time you can devote to learning programming? like, are you a student using evenings and weekends?
[09:39] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, the linux bible should help anyone learning the file stucture or hak5 video on it
[09:39] <TazmainianDevil> I meant the OS alt video on it
[09:40] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: yup student, can use evenings and weekends devoted to programming, to be frank, havent been too productive with my time
[09:40] <patsToms> morning, is there any way to take screen from Ubuntu login screen?
[09:41] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Well i don't mean that you have to be an expert, but just understanding that Linux doesn't use the WIndows system (C:, D:, E: ect.) And that / = root and how you would navigate through a directory, for example how you get to your home folder from the terminal...
[09:41] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Any book with lots of info would be good of course, but keeping it simple in the start is the best bet. Find a nice to the point tutorial on the net would be a good start
[09:42] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, i'd estimate it will take 2 years till you have a firm grasp, and ten years before you're on freenode irc average. the more you get into it, the more you will like to have a choice between GUI and CLI, and even start to combine them.
[09:42] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, for anyone that needs to understand it good tut : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qQTXp4rBEE
[09:42] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: it'll take you minutes to get your head around using the CLI
[09:43] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, you can speed up if you manage to delay visual gratification and fast-forward repeat the most important parts of computer hardware history, thereby learning how data processing evolved.
[09:43] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: everything takes "--help" as a parameter
[09:43] <gordonjcp> use it
[09:43] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil Yea something like that would be good. http://bit.ly/cgHQxg that is also a good explanation of the file system.
[09:44] <gordonjcp> jsonwhite: man pages are good too
[09:44] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, have you alrady selected which programming languages to start with?
[09:45] <jsonwhite> Sven_vB: well learning python and webdev ( html, css, and mostly javascript)
[09:45] <Sven_vB> jsonwhite, ok. for hints on JavaScript, come to #Node.js
[09:45] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil What's the linux bible :P
[09:46] <Sven_vB> i'll go there anyway now ;)
[09:46] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, its a book on linux guides you how to install it , and so on.
[09:46] <devians> hey, `sudo apt-get update` on my vagrant 12.04 amd64 vm gives me 'unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com'. it connects to security.ubuntu.com fine however
[09:46] <DarthDepa> reisio: well... good and bad notice... I successful install Ubuntu 13.10 Server, load the CD not in UEFI mode... And I seen all on the notebook screen...
[09:47] <DarthDepa> reisio: at reboot, I can see the GRUB, and load both Ubuntu and Windows
[09:47] <gr33n7007h> Any one know command for xchat to delay login something like /set irc_delay 10
[09:47] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, its a comprephensive tutorial resource
[09:47] <reisio> gr33n7007h: what for
[09:47] <DarthDepa> reisio: but at Ubuntu boot, it give me the same problem with screen :(
[09:47] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil is it this one? http://amzn.to/1fXGLy2
[09:47] <reisio> DarthDepa: don't frown on the internet
[09:48] <TazmainianDevil> GnubNix, yeah, but I see there is a few of them available now. different editons
[09:48] <TazmainianDevil> editions *
[09:49] <DarthDepa> reisio: ? what?
[09:49] <gr33n7007h> reisio, I need for when i'm autoconnecting
[09:49] <GnubNix> TazmainianDevil ok cool
[09:49] <reisio> gr33n7007h: why
[09:51] <gr33n7007h> nvm, figured it out
[09:51] <ObrienDave> gr33n7007h, there is an auto join delay setting
[09:52] <reisio> congratulations on figuring out how to do something for no particular reason :p
[09:53] <gr33n7007h> irc_join_delay 10
[09:53] <reisio> gr33n7007h: what about it?
[09:53] <respond> Need info manual ubuntu
[09:54] <respond> Indonesia
[09:54] <respond> I need upgrade my samsung yo ubuntu mobile
[09:55] <respond> More info needed
[09:55] <respond> l
[09:55] <TazmainianDevil> respond, can you download it fro samsung now ?
[09:58] <DarthDepa> reisio: ?
[09:58] <makara> is juju a good idea?
[09:58] <reisio> DarthDepa: hi
[09:59] <DarthDepa> reisio: Hi :) Have you read?
[09:59] <reisio> makara: hard to see how
[09:59] <reisio> DarthDepa: read what?
[10:00] <makara> reisio, you wouldn't recommend?
[10:00] <DarthDepa> reisio: I successful install Ubuntu 13.10 Server, load the CD not in UEFI mode... And I seen all  on the notebook screen...
[10:00] <reisio> DarthDepa: yes I read that
[10:00] <TomyWork> assuming the config is correct, does "service ssh reload" interrupt any running sessions or cause any incoming connections to be denies?
[10:00] <DarthDepa> reisio: can you help me? :(
[10:00] <TomyWork> denied*
[10:00] <TomyWork> even for a split-second
[10:00] <reisio> TomyWork: I wouldn't think so, but easily tested
[10:01] <reisio> DarthDepa: my man, if I wanted to look at frowny faces, I would /join #upsetlittlegirls
[10:02] <ronin> do you still think my installation was fine http://codepad.org/LEQ2WOge
[10:02] <DarthDepa> reisio: ? I don't understand... :( "frowny" what is?
[10:02] <ObrienDave> oh boy
[10:13] <MajSlayer> is vsftpd a good ftp server?
[10:13] <MajSlayer> setting up a new server and am trying to find the best ftpd to setup..
[10:14] <reisio> MajSlayer: what's the use case?
[10:15] <MajSlayer> mainly to run a Red5 server for videostreaming, want a wat to upload files to my server, thats about it
[10:15] <MajSlayer> its a dedicated server, bare-bones as it gets
[10:15] <MajSlayer> so i'm looking for performance i guess
[10:16] <MajSlayer> I need to get Red5-RC1 on my server somehow, if i use the latest, it will fail with my software
[10:18] <MajSlayer> so yeah figure FTP is a good place to start, using ubuntu 13.10
[10:19] <reisio> MajSlayer: wat?
[10:19] <MajSlayer> what what? some comminication error?
[10:20] <diligent>  /ns register QAZWSXEDC123  cnyaobanxian@gmail.com
[10:21] <reisio> MajSlayer: you said 'wat'
[10:21] <MajSlayer> oh
[10:21] <ObrienDave> diligent, thanks for sharing your password ;))
[10:21] <bentinata> anyone know why ubuntu wont detect partition
[10:21] <bentinata> ?
[10:21] <MajSlayer> I just want to upload files to my server..
[10:22] <MajSlayer> sry.. been up late
[10:22] <bentinata> anyone know why ubuntu wont detect partition?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !patience|bentinata
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !details|bentinata,
[10:22] <MajSlayer> mainlt looking for a the best possible ftpd out there
[10:22] <bentinata> i know :)
[10:22] <diligent> sorry
[10:22] <ObrienDave> bentinata, what kind of partition?
[10:27] <bentinata> windows partition
[10:27] <bentinata> I'm uploading picture (it's my friend laptop)
[10:27] <ObrienDave> MBR? GPT? NTFS? FAT32?
[10:28] <bentinata> fat32
[10:28] <bentinata> http://i.imgur.com/3HpK981.png
[10:28] <bentinata> detected on nautilus
[10:28] <bentinata> but not in the installer
[10:30] <Rory> bentinata: Does this happen even after rebooting and trying the live usb/cd again?
[10:30] <bentinata> yep
[10:31] <luminous> hello! I have ubuntu setup in a virtualbox VM (actually, I have a couple). two are using bridged networking (on a debian host), one of these VM works fine with bridged networking. the other does not.. dmesg shows eth0 being there, ifconfig does not show it as configured. how should I go about debugging this on the VM?
[10:32] <Rory> bentinata: Did you check the integrity of the live media? There is an option to do this from the first menu that is available when you boot from the liveCD, you need to hit a key to see it when the keyboard icon is at the bottom of the screen
[10:32] <UrielVigilant> If iam able to move the joystick with jstest in ubuntu, then joystick is working doesn it and should work on compatible games doesn it »
[10:33] <bentinata> hmm, what key?
[10:33] <ObrienDave> UrielVigilant, that might depend on if the game supports YOUR joystick
[10:35] <UrielVigilant> ObrienDave : I can´t make my new joystick work with OnLIve under PlayOnLinux app. I think i must do it what a dont want, to reserve some disk and install Vista in my Laptop together with Lubuntu .
[10:36] <UrielVigilant> ObrienDAve : I am using Wine 1.5.8  in PlayOnLinux, that supposly should work with joystick , but  it doesn t .
[10:39] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: try actual wine
[10:41] <bentinata> oh yeah, it also undetected in gparted... and ofc, I cant mount it http://i.imgur.com/GQw47Ki.png
[10:42] <UrielVigilant> Ben64 Wine 1.7 don run OnLive streaming games software correctly . , i think is the most recent one Wine.
[10:49] <bentinata> everybody? ._.
[10:50] <codephobic> hi
[10:51] <bentinata> hi :D
[10:51] <codephobic> I think I've found a bug in xubuntu, not sure where to go for help in getting it resolved.
[10:52] <codephobic> the mouse scroll wheel doesn't work when trying to scroll pdfs or documents in gedit.
[10:53] <codephobic> It works fine with the browser and most of the other applications I've tested, just not with the pdf viewer application or with gedit.
[10:54] <codephobic> Works fine with sublime2, too.
[10:54] <codephobic> is there an underlying issue to this? something to do with unity/xfce?
[10:54] <Dat> how can I get sftp to load the /etc/profile?
[10:59] <Guest9203> what happens when we place software breakpoints in our source code
[11:02] <Guest9203> what happens when we place software breakpoints in our source code
[11:03] <yeyeman> how do I find out where JRE is installed?
[11:04] <Xintruder> hey
[11:04] <Ben64> yeyeman: which java
[11:04] <ronin> how could I know if a package x was installed properly or not with apt-get?
[11:05] <bentinata> yeyeman: /usr/lib/jvm/...
[11:05] <Ben64> ronin: apt-cache policy <package>
[11:05] <bentinata> if I'm not wrong :v
[11:05] <Guest9203> what happens when we place software breakpoints in our source code
[11:06] <ronin> if it says "isntalled" i assume everything was right even I got some java vm errors in the installation
[11:06] <UrielVigilant> I already have Lubuntu occupying all my hard drive, if i want a dual boot can i do it , simply reserving some space to window in HD and the install VIsta ?
[11:06] <Ben64> Guest9203: stop repeating so often, maybe give more info, maybe go to a programming channel?
[11:06] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: yep
[11:07] <yeyeman> the most difficult thing about java programming is figuring out how to set up eclipse
[11:07] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: you'd need to resize the ubuntu partition. and why in all that is holy would you install vista willingly?
[11:07] <bentinata> yeyeman: get eclipse in the eclipse siet
[11:08] <bentinata> yeyeman: if you want to code android, there's some bundle/ADT at android site
[11:08] <yeyeman> thanks
[11:08] <UrielVigilant> Ben64: I love OnLive because i have an old specs laptop, but i love ultimate games that run wonderfull with OnLive . The joystick dont work with OnLive in PlayonLinux as i said .
[11:09] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: install windows 7 if you must, but don't use vista, its the worst. and __try wine__ also check in #winehq
[11:10] <bentinata> Ben64: I like egg
[11:10] <UrielVigilant> Iam afraid Windows 7 dont run on m,y laptop. Vista is actually a little havy
[11:10] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: use xp :)
[11:10] <Ben64> 7 will work on anything vista will, and better
[11:10]  * ObrienDave can find a ME install disk somewhere ;))
[11:11] <Jeaton> not sure if it's a ubuntu problem, but ever since I went to 13.10, i cannot connect to steam's network
[11:11] <UrielVigilant> But i dont have conditions to invest on it for now . Iam not a pirate anyway .
[11:11] <Jeaton> anyone else having this issue?
[11:11] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: oh, that's the problem, just create unallocated drive for your vista
[11:12] <bentinata> maybe 10gigs
[11:15] <TomyWork> reisio, discussions about windows ME - what have i stumbled into?
[11:16] <reisio> what've you just highlighted me into...
[11:17] <UrielVigilant> bentinata : does it will slow Lubuntu perfomance anyway to have vista dool boot ?
[11:18] <wheatthin> why would it?
[11:18] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: as far as I know, it willn't
[11:18] <ObrienDave> no, they are in separate partitions
[11:18] <wheatthin> only one system is running at a time
[11:18] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: except, because of that vista, your lubuntu will low on space
[11:19] <wheatthin> now you'll have a slow down in vista using vista
[11:19] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: like, you only have 500mb space left on ubuntu /, it will slowing down your lubuntu
[11:20] <UrielVigilant> Jeaton Since Ubuntu 13.10 you are not able to conecet Steam anymore ? Are you talking about  13.10 final version or beta 1 or beta 2?
[11:21] <UrielVigilant> bentinata : that was one of the major reason i left Vista to Lubuntu, the anti defragamentation system
[11:22] <bentinata> anyone can help me with partition problem?
[11:22] <UrielVigilant> bentinata : people say 5% to 10% disk free to dont slow down lubunt doesn it ?
[11:22] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: yep
[11:23] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: my ubuntu only had 6% disk free D:
[11:23] <bentinata> UrielVigilant: but, it's okay (must often use apt-get clean, tho :v )
[11:23] <SixAnon> hello guys can somebody help me out?
[11:24] <jony_easyrider> when in nautilus, can be opened a terminal window with the location where is nautilus?
[11:25] <bentinata> jony_easyrider: there's plugin for that somewhere
[11:25] <bentinata> jony_easyrider: I use thunar tho :3
[11:25] <repozitor> i installed ubuntu in virtual machine(vmware work station)
[11:25] <repozitor> but my ubuntu come up in CLI mode.
[11:26] <repozitor> how to enable GUI mode?
[11:26] <repozitor> or how to install GUI?
[11:27] <bentinata> repozitor: startx?
[11:27] <philinux> jony_easyrider: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:27] <bentinata> repozitor: or maybe alt+f7
[11:27] <bentinata> philinux: nah :D
[11:27] <philinux> jony_easyrider: then do nautilus -q
[11:27] <repozitor> bentinata, startx used for backtrack
[11:27] <repozitor> is this command usefull in ubuntu?
[11:28] <Ben64> not really
[11:28] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm start
[11:28] <k1l> dont use startx on ubuntu. start the desktopmanager like lightdm on ubuntu
[11:28] <bentinata> repozitor: don't know :v haven't go to CLI for a while
[11:28] <philinux> bentinata: that package is in 13.10
[11:28] <lvleph> I am not running unity, but I like the pretty windows provided by gnome-settings-daemon. However, this seems to start a compositor. How can I prevent compositing from starting?
[11:28] <repozitor> philinux, i tried to open nautilus, but hit error
[11:28] <repozitor> probably i forgot to use -q!
[11:28] <bentinata> philinux: what package?
[11:29] <philinux> nautilus-open-terminal
[11:29] <lvleph> repozitor, I use cli every day
[11:29] <k1l> repozitor: is a is a desktop installed?
[11:29] <bentinata> lvleph: MASTER!!! *bow
[11:29] <Rickardo_> I am trying to format my usb disk with mkfs.exe3 /dev/sdb and it works well.. but when I try to mount it I got mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:29] <repozitor> lvleph, i don't have any problem with CLI, my students can't use CLI
[11:29] <jony_easyrider> philinux, ty
[11:30] <Ben64> Rickardo_: you need to specify a mount location
[11:30] <lvleph> repozitor, I guess I am a mean professor and would make my students learn it.
[11:30] <jony_easyrider> philinux, it doesn't do anything when I execute nautilus -q
[11:31] <repozitor> lvleph, my students are so lazy
[11:31] <repozitor> that's too bad
[11:31] <lvleph> repozitor, so are everyone's students
[11:31] <seba4> hi to all. I got a question.  I was trying to reinstall rvm passenger ... i deleted everything..
[11:31] <seba4> but not there is a problem i can ssh to server some talking TeamSpeak server works
[11:31] <seba4> but i cant connect to pages from server
[11:32] <Xintruder> can i play windows games on ubuntu?
[11:32] <seba4> nslookup google.com says connection timed out ...
[11:32] <bentinata> Xintruder: most of them with wine
[11:32] <philinux> jony_easyrider: oh yes it does. now right click in an empty space in nautilus ;)
[11:32] <Myrtti> Xintruder: depends on the game
[11:32] <Jeaton> not sure if anyone answered my question since I pinged out, but is anyone able to get onto steam's network using ubuntu 13.10?
[11:32] <bentinata> aaaaaandd no one can help me with partition :'(
[11:32] <lvleph> !wine | Xintruder
[11:32] <philinux> jony_easyrider: you might like this for your work flow http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/install-nemo-with-unity-patches-and.html
[11:32] <jony_easyrider> philinux, TY, it worked ;)
[11:32] <seba4> anyone knows what could it be?
[11:33] <philinux> jony_easyrider: welcome
[11:33] <Xintruder> can i run all windows games on ubuntu?
[11:33] <theadmin> Xintruder: No
[11:33] <wheatthin> Xintruder, go to that link and you'll see a compadibilty list
[11:33] <bentinata> Xintruder: maybe no, no
[11:33] <k1l> !wine | Xintruder
[11:33] <ORGANasm> Hey
[11:33] <theadmin> Xintruder: You can run *some* of them successfully, but definetly not all.
[11:34] <lvleph> !steam | Xintruder
[11:34] <lvleph> They are even making steamos
[11:34] <theadmin> lvleph: ...which is just another remix of Ubuntu anyway
[11:34] <theadmin> lvleph: ;)
[11:34] <seba4> ok just saw dns was missing
[11:35] <lvleph> Ubuntu is just a remix of Debian lol
[11:35] <lvleph> sorry I had to
[11:35] <lvleph> I am not running unity, but I like the pretty windows provided by gnome-settings-daemon. However, this seems to start a compositor. How can I prevent compositing from starting?
[11:35] <theadmin> lvleph: Well, not really, no. Ubuntu has its own repositories, packages, and so on and so forth, it evolved a lot and it's not compatible with Debian. This SteamOS on the other hand will likely just have different preinstalled packages.
[11:36] <lvleph> theadmin, it was a joke
[11:36] <theadmin> lvleph: Ah, okay, wasn't sure.
[11:36] <lvleph> I have been using Ubuntu since 2006
[11:36] <wheatthin> lvleph, try installing ccsm and disable what plugins you don't want launching to a minimal compositor
[11:36] <lvleph> wheatthin, thankyou
[11:36] <theadmin> lvleph: The "pretty windows" are provided by Compiz, which is both the compositor and the window manager Ubuntu uses, it's a two-in-one thing.
[11:36] <theadmin> lvleph: So...
[11:37] <bentinata> still working on partition, btw, anyone know how to use fixparts?
[11:37] <lvleph> theadmin, I just won't the colors
[11:37] <lvleph> want*
[11:37] <bentinata> or gdisk?
[11:37] <theadmin> lvleph: Ah. Well, as wheatthin said install "compizconfig-settings-manager" (click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/compizconfig-settings-manager ) and run it, then find the parts you do not want and uncheck them.
[11:38] <codephobic> hi, is this channel a good place to ask after xubuntu solutions?
[11:38] <theadmin> codephobic: Most of the time yes, but #xubuntu exists as well.
[11:39] <theadmin> codephobic: If something is specific for Xubuntu, you'll find a better answer there likely, but if it's a generic question, this channel is just fine
[11:39] <UrielVigilant> Xintruder: Install PLayOnLinux from software center , then install OnLive with Wine 1.5.8 plug in your joystick and tell me if it work there to play with joystick some game for joystick. please
[11:39] <codephobic> theadmin, thanks I'll try there first. It seems to be a specific bug with xubuntu.
[11:40] <UrielVigilant> Xintruder: you do all that stuf under PlayOnLinux app.
[11:41] <lvleph> hmmm ccsm says compositing isn't on but ps afx | grep unity-system-compositor
[11:41] <lvleph>  3884 pts/1    S+     0:00      \_ grep unity-system-compositor
[11:41] <yeyeman> how do I open hidden folders in the file manager?
[11:41] <theadmin> lvleph: ...you just found your grep :P
[11:41] <ObrienDave> !ask | SixAnon
[11:41] <yeyeman> it won't allow me to type in the path anywhere
[11:42] <lvleph> lol theadmin I need to pay more attention
[11:42] <theadmin> yeyeman: Hit Ctrl+L to go to a specific location. Ctrl+H to show all hidden stuff.
[11:42] <Xintruder> what command to fully upgrade ubuntu?
[11:42] <lvleph> the glaring grep should have clued me into that theadmin
[11:42] <Rickard__> Ben64: In the mount cmd?
[11:42] <theadmin> Xintruder: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade all the software. sudo do-release-upgrade will do a Ubuntu version upgrade.
[11:43] <bentinata> my friend partition has 4 logical partition
[11:43] <yeyeman> theadmin, thanks. It's puzzling why they have hidden this from the user.
[11:43] <bentinata> *primary
[11:43] <bentinata> how can I install ubuntu?
[11:43] <theadmin> yeyeman: They haven't, it's in the menus as well
[11:43] <theadmin> yeyeman: View -> Show hidden files and Go -> Location
[11:43] <theadmin> yeyeman: Keyboard shortcuts are just more... convenient
[11:43] <UrielVigilant> Yesterday because after uninstall a software center app game, the item doesnt disappear from menu i did typed on terminal : killall lxpanel : then typed : find ~/.cache/menus -name '*' -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm ; then typed : lxpanel -p LXDE & and then typed : lxpanelctl restart , then things come worses. Then i typed sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop, and the menu appear like.....new.....a
[11:43] <UrielVigilant> gain. then i uninstalled the app with sinatic and the item finally disappear from menu. The correctly way should be: install Kubuntu DEsktop and from there login : sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop : and the install lubuntu desktop again , then login to lubuntu desktop again and then remove Kubuntu desktop ?
[11:44] <UrielVigilant> i was with Lubuntu 13.10
[11:44] <ObrienDave> instant headache ;))
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilant: removing metapackags does not remove it's contents
[11:45] <jony_easyrider> how can I copy only two files from a folder in terminal?
[11:45] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: is there a support question somewhere in there?
[11:45] <lvleph> anyone a good how to on booting into Ubuntu using CSM mode for a Mac?
[11:46] <lvleph> have*
[11:46] <theadmin> jony_easyrider: cp folder/{file1,file2} destination
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: beat me to it
[11:47] <Xintruder> u guys are official support channel?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> UrielVigilant: if you have another DE installed and want to remove the LXDE packages you can you run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove lxde openbox leafpad      and the rest wil be removed for you
[11:47] <Ben64> Xintruder: for ubuntu, yes
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Xintruder: for all canonical releases
[11:48] <Xintruder> Sorry for my question, u get paid? you are employees?
[11:48] <ObrienDave> no
[11:48] <theadmin> Xintruder: Yes, but hardly any of us actually work for the Ubuntu team, we're volunteers
[11:48] <theadmin> Xintruder: No, we don't get paid or anything
[11:48] <UrielVigilant> ActionParsnip : The poin of the question is, if i was with Lxde Lubuntu desktop, with problems that i caused to it , but i was with it , and then and reinstalled it again with out purge it the old one, that means i have now duplicated files or something like that, bad for Lubuntu perfomance or so ?
[11:48] <rampageRipper> i get this message so often lately:
[11:48] <rampageRipper>  Could not exec dpkg!
[11:48] <rampageRipper>  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)
[11:49] <Ben64> UrielVigilant: none of what you showed there duplicates files
[11:49] <ObrienDave> UrielVigilant, no, there should not be duplicate files to worry about
[11:49] <UrielVigilant> Thank you booth 1
[11:55] <jony_easyrider> theadmin, ty
[11:57] <robin__> Hi folks, has anyone experience installing ubuntu on a macbook 4.1 ?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !mac
[11:59] <Freeman__> hello
[11:59] <Freeman__> hello everyone
[11:59] <robin__> thanks ubootu i already saw that
[11:59] <dracarys> installing ubuntu on a mac?
[12:00] <dracarys> why would you even attempt something like that
[12:00] <Freeman__> how to give static ip on ubuntu 13.10?
[12:00] <robin__> because there are no more updates on the OS
[12:00] <dracarys> you know there's about as much support as trying to get an iPhone to run iOS right?
[12:01] <dracarys> err
[12:01] <dracarys> getting an iPhone to run Android
[12:01] <theadmin> Freeman__: click the network icon -> edit connections -> choose yours -> click "Edit" -> IPv4 Settings
[12:02] <Freeman__> theadmin: let me try this thanks
[12:03] <robin__> dracarys you want me to keep you up to date how it works? i think its really interesting project
[12:04] <dracarys> robin__: Linux on MacBooks is nothing but a time sinker
[12:04] <dracarys> you're better off hackintoshing later versions of Mac OS X to run on that old machine
[12:04] <bazhang> !ot | dracarys
[12:05] <theadmin> Earlier versions of Ubuntu (pre-Unity, up to 10.04 for sure) used to play a drum sound on login. Where could I find this sound?
[12:05] <dracarys> bazhang: I run both Ubuntu and Mac OS X, so I've done all the research robin__ has done, and a bit more on the subject
[12:05] <dracarys> my conclusion is, it's not worth the time to try and get Ubuntu to run properly on the macbook platform
[12:05] <dracarys> and I'm typing this on a macbook pro
[12:06] <bazhang> dracarys, take the chat to another channel please
[12:06] <Freeman__> theadmin: do we have to do anything in the routes option that appears under  the edit connections option :)
[12:06] <theadmin> Freeman__: Not sure, you'd have to ask your ISP about that. If you aren't told, then probably no.
[12:06] <Freeman__> theadmin: this is a local network no iSP involved
[12:07] <codephobic> is there a solution to the mouse-wheel scrolling problem in gEdit and in pdf viewer? Most applications seem to work fine with the mouse-wheel but gEdit & the pdf viewer (document viewer?) don't seem to even notice it scrolling.
[12:07] <theadmin> Freeman__: Ah. Then probably not... You know, it's weird but I never dealt with static IPs, so don't take my word on this.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> dracarys, I've never installed ubuntu on a mac, but as I understand it, it can be done.  best source of info is the link above and the ubuntu forums for mac.
[12:07] <codephobic> (nobody seems to be around at #xubuntu)
[12:07] <Freeman__> theadmin: anyone who knows anything about static ip ? Can you refer someone ?
[12:08] <codephobic> In Xubuntu, is there a solution to the mouse-wheel scrolling problem in gEdit and in pdf viewer? Most applications seem to work fine with the mouse-wheel but gEdit & the pdf viewer (document viewer?) don't seem to even notice it scrolling.
[12:08] <glitsj16> codephobic: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1171342 yet? looks like you might be affected .. there's mention of a PPA with a fix
[12:09] <codephobic> thanks glitsj16 will just have a read now.
[12:09] <Freeman__> theadmin: are you noob ?
[12:09] <codephobic> btw, is it advisable to add ppas?
[12:09] <bazhang> !noob | Freeman__
[12:10] <theadmin> Freeman__: That kind of language isn't to be used here. No, not really. I know Linux pretty well, but... I've just always used static DHCP on my router for that kind of a thing
[12:10] <Freeman__> theadmin: sorry brother :)
[12:10] <theadmin> Freeman__: So eh. We all have white spots in our knowledge.
[12:10] <bazhang> codephobic, PPA are not advised, some are less problematic than others though, for example handbrake
[12:11] <bazhang> !ppa | codephobic
[12:11] <leosam> i tried to install the ubuntu touch emulator on soucy and had some problems, can i ask for help here?
[12:11] <bazhang> leosam, in #ubuntu-touch please
[12:11] <leosam> ok thx
[12:11] <AlanBell> theadmin: canberra-gtk-play --id="desktop-login"
[12:12] <theadmin> AlanBell: Thanks, I meant the actual file though, but I found it under /usr/share/sounds/desktop-login.ogg already. Thanks though!
[12:12] <theadmin> AlanBell: ...err. /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg
[12:14] <nopcall> I have a old IDE HDD. Should i format it to ext4 or ext3 to install Debian?
[12:14] <nopcall> 40G
[12:14] <theadmin> nopcall: ...Debian isn't supported here at all, ask in #debian
[12:14] <bazhang> nopcall, ask in #debian
[12:14] <cfhowlett> !touch
[12:14] <nopcall> sorry..
[12:15] <antony> Can any point me in the direction of Linux Mint help it used to be added to favourites
[12:15] <DJones> !mint | antony
[12:15] <[Gentoo]> i think its a diferent network
[12:16] <bazhang> it is
[12:16] <antony> ubottu, ok thankyou
[12:16] <[Gentoo]> why dont they use freenode
[12:16] <bazhang> they have a small channel on freenode
[12:17] <k1l> [Gentoo]: that is not our business. they are free to give support where they want.
[12:17] <antony> ubottu, i cant find spotchat.org on network list
[12:17] <[Gentoo]> k1l: ok i werent complaining
[12:18] <[Gentoo]> antony: /connect irc.spotchat.org then /join linuxmint-help
[12:21] <loa> it can't be so hard...
[12:22] <cfhowlett> eh?
[12:24] <sandman13> how to remove xfce4 desktop  environment in ubuntu?
[12:24] <[Gentoo]> apt-get remove
[12:24] <[Gentoo]> the package
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> sandman13: sudo apt-get --purge remove xfce4
[12:25] <[Gentoo]> are prge and remove needed together?
[12:25] <[Gentoo]> just asking
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> [Gentoo]: its an old habit, still works :)
[12:25] <[Gentoo]> ok
[12:26] <sandman13> ActionParsnip is there a way to reset all the settings of xfce4? removing didn't help
[12:26] <[Gentoo]> would it not be easier for apt-get remove to ask if you want to completely remove instead of having purge?
[12:26] <varunendra> ActionParsnip, sandman13 xfce4 is just a metapackage. The dependencies must be removed manually
[12:27] <philinux> sandman13: now do sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:27] <sandman13> varunendra i did this to remove http://paste.ubuntu.com/6453005/
[12:28] <philinux> sandman13: if that does not then check xfce4 deps and remove in synaptic
[12:28] <IncrediblePony> Hello everyone
[12:28] <[Gentoo]> hi
[12:29] <IncrediblePony> I need some assistance with a boot-repair
[12:29] <sandman13> philinux when i remove xfce4 the background image of login screen is set to default is that normal?
[12:30] <IncrediblePony> anyone able to tell me what I should do when I've run the boot-repair and I get the Boot-info text file? :) - cus I have no idea what to do with that information
[12:31] <ovrflw0x> When I do "echo DIGD > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and switch to _only_ Laptop's screen I _can_ change laptop screen's "brightness". But, when I do "echo DDIS > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and turn both on External monitor and laptop's screen, laptop's screen becomes "Very Bright" and I cannot decrease its brightness. So, how to change laptop screen's brightness when using discrete card using "echo DDIS >..."
[12:31] <profligacy> Is FreeBSD better than Ubuntu?
[12:32] <[Gentoo]> yes
[12:32] <profligacy> Why?
[12:32] <[Gentoo]> because
[12:32] <[Gentoo]> it is
[12:32] <IncrediblePony> lol
[12:32] <varunendra> sandman13, you have purged 9 items, while "apt-cache show xfce4" shows me 12 dependencies, including xfce4-settings (purging which I suspect may reset your background)
[12:33] <IncrediblePony> anyone able to tell me what I should do when I've run the boot-repair and I get the Boot-info text file? :) - cus I have no idea what to do with that information
[12:33] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], cmon freebsd is good in some ways and like mint it good in others
[12:33] <[Gentoo]> TazmainianDevil: theyre entirely different
[12:33] <[Gentoo]> stupid question to ask
[12:33] <cfhowlett> !ot
[12:33] <sandman13> varunendra when i reinstall the package i get the same old settings for the desktop any clue why?
[12:33] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], haha true, each has its application
[12:34] <TazmainianDevil> like a heli and a car
[12:34] <cfhowlett> sandman13 to remove program completely you have to purge ...
[12:34] <cfhowlett> apt-get purge program-name
[12:35] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], what is the diff between distrobution and iso freebsd download ?
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> dno what you mean
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> theres bootonly, full iso etc
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> none of its on topic lol
[12:36] <TazmainianDevil> [Gentoo], sorry I know its off topic lol just gonna try freebsd
[12:37] <varunendra> sandman13, no idea why. But you may have to purge all the dependencies as cfhowlett said.
[12:37] <blurkis> how to temporarly turn off java in firefox?
[12:37] <sandman13> cfhowlett: what i did was "sudo apt-get --purge remove xfce4" and it said no such package
[12:38] <IncrediblePony> anyone able to tell me what I should do when I've run the boot-repair and I get the Boot-info text file? :) - cus I have no idea what to do with that information
[12:38] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get purge xfce4
[12:39] <philinux> sandman13: run this to show what needs to be removed apt-cache showpkg xfce4
[12:40] <cfhowlett> sandman13, and if you've already remove it ... it's gone.  to kill the config folders you need to run apt-get purge at the moment of removing your program.
[12:40] <varunendra> cfhowlett, it is just a metapackage as per "apt-cache show xfce4"
[12:41] <varunendra> sandman13, this gives me a clear list of dependencies : apt-cache show xfce4 | grep Depends | cut -d " " -f 2- | sed 's/, /\n/g' | cut -d " " -f 1
[12:42] <SupaYoshi> does anybody know why cups is not counting the pages?
[12:42] <SupaYoshi> that a file is?
[12:43] <SupaYoshi> when printing it, it just tells me everything is 1 page, even whe its not
[12:43] <sandman13> varunendra got the list and i should remove them isn't it?
[12:43] <andreiiar> Am o zona DNS da? Daca am un hostname care arata catre mai multe ip-uri, cand se face rotirea? Adica daca intreb de doua ori la rand, o data imi raspunde ca andrei.com e 4.2.2.2 si a doua oara 4.2.2.1 ???
[12:44] <varunendra> sandman13, I've never done it myself, just guessing logically :). Short answer - yes, I think so
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !it
[12:44] <varunendra> sandman13, and not 'remove', you should 'purge' them
[12:44] <andreiiar> Excusame pero parle Romano!
[12:44] <philinux> sandman13: yep sudo apt-get purge packagename as varunendra suggests
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    does the printer have a make and model?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: why have you not given this detail already?
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> em
[12:45] <philinux> sandman13: the sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:45] <andreiiar> And it was a crude mistake. I mean I put the speak in other channel.
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> cus i didnt know ActionParsnip
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> the output is empty ActionParsnip
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l is all it says
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: that's not empty then, is it?
[12:45] <jianwu> hello
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: what is the make and model of the printer please?
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> in cups it says make and model: Samsung CLP-320 Series
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> ActionParsnip, thanks so mcuh so far.. sorry im a bit clueless on what info to provide
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: how did you install the printer? or did it autodetect and configure?
[12:46] <Krapulat> I'm trying to update nginx adding the ppa and with "apt-get install nginx" and at the end of installation I get: "Configuring nginx (1.4.1-1ppa1~lucid) ... | krapulat@Frases:~# nginx -v  | nginx version: nginx/1.0.14". Does anybody know why?
[12:46] <SavantSv_d> What do you think of SuperSoup for a nick?
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> Through cups, autodetect
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> It prints, verything works ;) just... it doesnt count pages.. which is a shame
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: are there any bugs reported?
[12:47] <sandman13> philinux: help me with this list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6453093/
[12:47] <Krapulat> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS \n \l
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: and do you use a GUI based OS with mouse pointer and Firefox web browser?
[12:47] <sandman13> philinux: is there anything that depends upon these items?
[12:47] <ovrflw0x> When I do "echo DIGD > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and switch to _only_ Laptop's screen I _can_ change laptop screen's "brightness". But, when I do "echo DDIS > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and turn both on External monitor and laptop's screen, laptop's screen becomes "Very Bright" and I cannot decrease its brightness. So, how to change laptop screen's brightness when using discrete card using "echo DDIS >..."
[12:47] <Krapulat> ActionParsnip: Nope. It's a server.
[12:48] <philinux> sandman13: just purge them one by one in terminal
[12:48] <SupaYoshi> in? /var/log/cups/page_log?
[12:48] <philinux> sandman13: if they already gone it will say so
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: did you use this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/stable ?
[12:49] <sandman13> philinux: says the package is not installed
[12:49] <philinux> sandman13: ok do them all
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: or this PPA https://launchpad.net/~teward/+archive/nginx-stable-testing?field.series_filter=lucid ?
[12:49] <Krapulat> ActionParsnip: I used this: "add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable"
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !info nginx lucid
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Krapulat: then I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer
[12:50] <SupaYoshi> ActionParsnip, no bugs
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: I suggest you report one
[12:51] <SupaYoshi> ActionParsnip, there are no errors in /var/log/cups/error_log and printing works fine, just page count doesnt work
[12:52] <philinux> SupaYoshi: what exactly do you mean by not counting pages
[12:52] <philinux> just to be clear
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> well, when i pritn any document from any pc
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> it always tells me that the amount of pages is 1
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> and never more then 1, even when it pritns like 50 pages...
[12:52] <philinux> SupaYoshi: ah right gotcha so this is a network printer
[12:53] <SupaYoshi> yes! :D
[12:53] <SupaYoshi> but installed with usb on cups
[12:53] <SupaYoshi> and then the computers print through cubs, on the usb printer :)
[12:53] <philinux> SupaYoshi: what does the print preview show
[12:55] <sandman13> philinux: none of them are installed
[12:55] <Xeno-Genesis> I would like to confirm if somebody else is having a bug that I'm experiencing with Unity's global menu
[12:55] <philinux> sandman13: ok then I would logout or reboot
[12:55] <Xeno-Genesis> when I depress Alt in any GTK+ application, the menu entries do not display on top
[12:55] <Xeno-Genesis> it does work on Firefox and Thunderbird though
[12:55] <sandman13> philinux: let's see
[12:56] <philinux> SupaYoshi: also can you specify like print only page number 7 for instance and it does print the specified page
[12:56] <tilerendering> how can I force ubuntu to delete a partition no matter wtf process is using it - I m sick of getting "device is busy" - I dont care. disconnect al processes using it, whoever does, override whatever restrictions, just delete the partition
[12:56] <tilerendering> even fuser -km doesnt work
[12:56] <xangua> !language | tilerendering
[12:56] <tilerendering> that device is always "busy"
[12:57] <sandman13> philinux: logged out and logged in
[12:57] <cfhowlett> tilerendering, boot gparted and edit partitions to your heart's content
[12:57] <tilerendering> boot gparted ? what do you mean.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !gparted
[12:58] <Xeno-Genesis> tilerendering, the device is busy because there's at least one partition still mounted
[12:58] <tilerendering> THANKS
[12:58] <tilerendering> xeno: cant be, tried unmount etc.
[12:58] <tilerendering> it just wont let me unmount because there is always "some" process using it
[12:58] <Xeno-Genesis> tilerendering, I mean, another partition in the same device must be still mounted
[12:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:58] <cfhowlett> also available on the ubuntu ISO, so if you boot that ...    no active partitions will be mounted and you can do what you want
[12:58] <tilerendering> but I do not care who is using it. I m admin, unmount anad delete
[12:59] <tilerendering> cfhowlett: that´s the brute force solution, thanks for that already. but there msut be anotehr solution
[12:59] <sandman13> philinux: that means when i reinstall the package then the previous desktop settings of xfce4 would not be saved right?
[12:59] <Xeno-Genesis> tilerendering, you can delete the partition using fdisk, for example, but it will not successfully reload the partition table if there's a partition still mounted in the device
[12:59] <dyu> is the brightness problem on 13.10 fixed?
[12:59] <xangua> dyu: no
[13:00] <xangua> if you mean gnome3/unity
[13:00] <dyu> xangua: any idea on when it's getting fixed? i'm on xfce/xmonad. it might be just an ubuntu problem.
[13:01] <dyu> thinking about just reinstalling 12.04, but it's too drastic. if a fix is around the corner, i'll just gut it out til then
[13:01] <xangua> dyu: is a gnome problem
[13:01] <tilerendering> cfhowlett: gparted worked ! thanks
[13:01] <cfhowlett> tilerendering, have fun, be safe.
[13:04] <Xeno-Genesis> would someone do me a favor a launch a GTK+ app like gedit, and then depress the ALT key and tell me if the global menu shows up for the application?
[13:04] <Xeno-Genesis> the only way to show the menu on my system is to type ALT+F10
[13:04] <Xeno-Genesis> if I just depress ALT the menu does not display
[13:05] <Xeno-Genesis> it only displays in Firefox and Thunderbird when I depress ALT
[13:05] <Xeno-Genesis> I wonder if it's isolated to my system
[13:06] <philinux> sandman13: not experienced installing xfce4
[13:06] <sandman13> philinux okay anyway thanks for the help
[13:07] <philinux> dyu: what is this brightness problem
[13:07] <philinux> sandman13: no worries
[13:07] <whybeing> <<why can't open .deb files. Terminal shows "Processing triggers for man-db">>
[13:08] <dyu> philinux: i can't adjust it. only happened when i updated to 13.10. it's always on full brightness
[13:08] <Azerus> are there any working packages for Squid3.2 / Squid3.3 for the current LTS?
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> I am printing from Windows, print previews shows page 7 only
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> and in the jobs center on cups it says: 1 page printed
[13:10] <philinux> dyu: must be hardware specific I guess. I've an acer 1410 and Fn Brightness works as it should
[13:10] <cobalt237> I'm experiencing a bug where the system sometimes reboots when the shutdown dialog is brought up
[13:10] <Rory> Azerus: The version in the 12.04 repositories is 3.1 I think
[13:10] <cobalt237> Is there a good log I could see for debugging what is triggering the restart?
[13:10] <Rory> !info squid3 precise
[13:10] <Azerus> Rory, yeah I see that. IT apparently does not have HTTP/1.1 support either, need at least squid3.2
[13:11] <philinux> SupaYoshi: seems to be a windows thing http://community.kde.org/Printing/CUPS/FAQ#Why_is_CUPS_page-accounting_not_working_with_Windows_clients.3F
[13:12] <sandman13> philinux is it safe to delete xfce4 folder from .config if there is no xfce4
[13:12] <philinux> sandman13: of course
[13:12] <Rory> Azerus: You can download the source to 3.3 and compile it on ubuntu http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/CompilingSquid#Debian.2C_Ubuntu
[13:12] <philinux> SupaYoshi: do a net search for "Why is CUPS page-accounting not working with Windows clients"
[13:12] <sandman13> philinux: how to check what desktop environment are installed currently?
[13:13] <philinux> sandman13: look at the login screen sessions available - under the Gear icon
[13:13] <cobalt237> I've seen this bug reported (bug #1170783) and was trying to be proactive debugging it myself
[13:14] <philinux> dyu: what laptop u running
[13:14] <dyu> philinux: hp dm1. it's a netbook
[13:15] <philinux> dyu: is there a bug report for that model
[13:15] <cfhowlett> dyu, netbooks may find xubuntu and lubuntu more to their liking - lighter requirements
[13:16] <sandman13> philinux: there's a folder named thunar should i remove it too?
[13:16] <philinux> sandman13: sure why not it's not needed
[13:16] <rampageRipper> i get this message so often lately : http://dpaste.com/1476980/
[13:16] <dyu> philinux: haven't checked. just googled for "ubuntu 13.10 brightness not working" and was under the impression that it was very common
[13:16] <k2t1> hello :D
[13:16] <ovrflw0x> When I do "echo DIGD > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and switch to _only_ Laptop's screen I _can_ change laptop screen's "brightness". But, when I do "echo DDIS > ../vgaswitcheroo/switch" and turn both on External monitor and laptop's screen, laptop's screen becomes "Very Bright" and I cannot decrease its brightness. So, how to change laptop screen's brightness when using discrete card using "echo DDIS >..."
[13:17] <dyu> cfhowlett: i'm using xfce and xmonad. even if it's just xmonad, the problem is still there. also, it's not a matter of requirements. it's the brightness setting
[13:17] <Azerus> https://launchpad.net/~pdffs/+archive/squid-stable
[13:17] <k2t1> kdxfs
[13:17] <Azerus> are repos from that site reputable?
[13:17] <philinux> dyu try just hp dm1 brightness not working ;)
[13:17] <k2t1> This is Poland and we are taking this internet!
[13:17] <k2t1__> yes
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Azelphur, if it has a launchpad presence, I'd say yes ...
[13:17] <k2t1_> sadf
[13:18] <k2t1_> o kurwa
[13:18] <blurkis> i installed a plugin to deactivate javascript in ff.  it sort of worked. deactivated js, but could not activate again.  removing the plugin left me with ff without js :(   any idee?
[13:18] <k2t1__> dan ie chuj
[13:18] <k2t1_> chyba ty
[13:18] <k2t1__> ]danbiel chuj
[13:18] <DJones> k2t1__: Please stop that
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !pl|k2t1,
[13:18] <philinux> dyu:> seems a problem in the wild too not just ubuntu
[13:18] <k2t1__> ok
[13:18] <k2t1_> ohohohohoho
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <FloodBot1> k2t1__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <k2t1__> o
[13:18] <k2t1> fg
[13:18] <k2t1_> CO to co to
[13:18] <k2t1_> co to kurwa jest?
[13:18] <Knoxx> łęeee
[13:18] <SeQ> Cipki
[13:18] <k2t1> łęęęęę
[13:18] <SeQ> <3
[13:18] <Knoxx> nooob
[13:18] <k2t1_> ohohohohooh
[13:18] <Jezus> łęeeee
[13:18] <Knoxx> hahahahha
[13:18] <Jezus> Penisy
[13:18] <Jezus> XD
[13:19] <Knoxx> kutasy
[13:19] <SeQ> <3
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !ops
[13:19] <suppagga> what do i type in terminal to find out what's my display manager?
[13:19] <Knoxx> hjahahahhahhh
[13:19] <FloodBot1> Knoxx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <k2t1> dfg
[13:19] <Knoxx> yeah
[13:19] <SeQ> hahahaha
[13:19] <k2t1__> KURWY szmaty
[13:19] <SeQ> Ciiiiiiipy!
[13:19] <k2t1__> wypierdalać karmić knury
[13:19] <Knoxx> co tam nooby
[13:19] <ObrienDave> must be all the same clown
[13:19] <Jezus> what's up, men ?
[13:19] <chuj> kurewa
[13:19] <n008> how do I wrap all words in quote using gedit or vi ?
[13:19] <Jezus> must be chuj Ci w dupe.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, clown or clan ...
[13:20] <k2t1> nothing man :D
[13:20] <Jezus> Co ja.
[13:20] <n008> its a column of words separated by comma ?
[13:20] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> KURWA
[13:20] <Bur> HAHAHA
[13:20] <kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk> siema bur
[13:20] <ObrienDave> all the same provider
[13:20] <rwc2> 'access-your-private-data.desktop' says 'has no type=...entry' ... didn't see an answer on google.  any suggestions?
[13:20] <philinux> suppagga:> type in env
[13:21] <dyu> philinux: ugh. you're right. seems like a driver problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/310812/last-couple-of-fglrx-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04-have-backlight-support-broken
[13:21] <philinux> dyu:> indeed
[13:22] <suppagga> philinux: dyu?
[13:22] <philinux> suppagga:> type in env in the terminal
[13:22] <rwc2> ah, http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=92510
[13:23] <suppagga> philinux: i did, it looks like it's lightdm. strange i thought lubuntu had lxdm. what is dyu?
[13:23] <philinux> suppagga@: should show you what you need
[13:23] <suppagga> philinux: forgot to say thank you :)
[13:23] <philinux> suppagga@: dyu is another user in here
[13:23] <dyu> suppagga: i'm a dayu
[13:23] <dyu> suppagga: i'm a dyu
[13:24] <suppagga> ok
[13:24] <philinux> suppagga@: see this for more info http://askubuntu.com/questions/72549/how-to-determine-which-window-manager-is-running
[13:25] <suppagga> does the presence/absence of the guest session depend on the display manager? some dms have it others dont?
[13:25] <iBog> Hello all
[13:25] <cfhowlett> iBog, greetings
[13:25] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[13:25] <philinux> suppagga@: not sure
[13:25] <sandman13> philinux how do i hide folders?
[13:25] <iBog> Any know the best way to upgrade php?
[13:25] <philinux> suppagga@: I wouldnt have thought so though
[13:26] <philinux> sandman13@: rename with a dot . at the front
[13:26] <Nach0z> hey guys, is there a way I can tell apt-get to install specific libraries to a different directory?
[13:26] <jrib> iBog: why?
[13:26] <iBog> Jrib because it's old an insecure
[13:27] <rwc2> any thoughts?
[13:27] <suppagga> all should have the guest session. it's very useful. I LOVE GUEST SESSION
[13:27] <jrib> iBog: what ubuntu version are you using?
[13:27] <suppagga> :)
[13:27] <iBog> 10.10
[13:27] <sandman13> philinux: folders of linux live usb
[13:27] <xangua> iBog: it's old and insecure
[13:27] <jrib> iBog: your problem is that you are using an unsupported ubuntu release.  Upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu
[13:27] <jrib> !10.10 | iBog
[13:27] <suppagga> alrighty bye bye :)
[13:27] <cfhowlett> iBog, unsupported as in END OF LIFE
[13:28] <iBog> Kris thanks.  Can I just manually download php and install it ?
[13:28] <philinux> sandman13@: should be same - a dot at front hides stuff ctrl h shows them
[13:28] <iBog> Jrib ^
[13:28] <sandman13> philinx thanks
[13:28] <jrib> iBog: you need to upgrade your OS.  Your OS is insecure since it's no longer getting security updates.  Either upgrade (/msg ubottu eolupgrades) or fresh install 12.04 or 13.10
[13:28] <iBog> Jrib: I'll
[13:29] <aptget> hello
[13:29] <iBog> Plan an os upgrade but need to upgrade php first
[13:29] <cfhowlett> aptget, greetings
[13:29] <aptget> newbie here
[13:29] <cfhowlett> iBog that makes NO sense.  you can and should upgrade before worry about php
[13:29] <jrib> iBog: doesn't make sense to do that imho.  You would just have a new php version with an unsupported OS.  Just upgrade your OS and kill two birds....
[13:30] <iBog> So how do I do an os upgrade?
[13:30] <iBog> That just sounds like a disaster
[13:30] <cfhowlett> iBog, at this stage, download the 12.04 iso, make a usb and clean install
[13:31] <jrib> iBog: if you upgrade from 10.10 you need to upgrade to 11.04, then to 11.10, then to 12.04 LTS (and then keep going if you want to reach 13.10). I'd advise a backup and fresh install at this point.
[13:31] <cfhowlett> iBog, you can make a /home partition to save your data in first, though
[13:32] <iBog> So I can't just install a new version of php?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> would you put a new engine in a car with no tires, broken axle and busted windows?
[13:32] <jrib> iBog: sure, you can.  But as we've told you a half-dozen times now, you would still be running an old, insecure, and unsupported EVERYTHING ELSE ON YOUR OS
[13:33] <bipul> php?
[13:33] <bipul> iBog, why you would download new php for upgrading your OS?
[13:34] <iBog> Jrib: im ok with an older os only need to update php
[13:34]  * cfhowlett backs away from the thread ...
[13:34] <jrib> iBog: it's not that the OS is old.  It's that it is unsupported: i.e. no security updates
[13:34] <iBog> Bipul I only want to update php
[13:35] <iBog> Kris doing an os upgrade sounds like more work.  I need to update php ASAP
[13:35] <jrib> iBog: the OS should have been updated months ago
[13:35] <iBog> And then plan the os upgrade
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !php
[13:35] <jrib> iBog: this is something I would do ASAP
[13:35] <gelson> Chapecó
[13:35] <philinux> iBog;~ a new php most likely will have dependencies that are newer too
[13:35] <gelson> #Chapecó
[13:36] <cfhowlett> gelson, /join #chapeco
[13:36] <iBog> Jrib true.  It wasn't and now I have to come up with a plan.  Php update is critical due to a security issue
[13:36] <cfhowlett> iBog, you're running 10.10.  you haven't had a security update since ... years.  but PHP is your security priority?  OK then
[13:37] <jrib> iBog: my advice is for you to install a supported version of Ubuntu.  That's going to be easier and probably faster if you already have proper back-ups in place than installing a newer php.  If you want to ignore that advice, then you probably need to go compile php or search for a random repository with a newer more secure php...
[13:37] <iBog> Yes it is the priority
[13:37] <iBog> Jrib do you know the version of php supported on 10.10?
[13:38] <jrib> iBog: 10.10 is not supported
[13:38] <jrib> so there can be no version of php supported on 10.10...
[13:38] <iBog> Jrib.  Ok.  What is the most current version of php that is available for 10.10?
[13:39] <jrib> iBog: 10.10 isn't supported...
[13:39] <Jeaton> anyone else having issues running steam on ubuntu 13.10?
[13:39] <iBog> When 10.10 was supported, what version of php dis it support?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> iBog, best suggestion: go to the php page, look through the backpackages and take your chances
[13:40] <Jeaton> it was working i think on 13.04 until I upgraded, I tried performing steam --reset, but I get the same results
[13:41] <jrib> iBog: I don't know why you're resisting the OS upgrade.  It's a major flaw in your process that you should address.  You're just going to have to do extra work because instead of an OS upgrade (which gives you a supported version of php on a supported version of ubuntu) you're gonna have to muck about with trying to install newer php with old libraries on an old, unsupported OS and then install a newer ubuntu
[13:41] <jrib> later anyway
[13:41] <kenlik> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and dpkg have some dependency problems. Anyone can help me? Check the errors -> http://pastebin.com/BQWRzvRP
[13:41] <jrib> or that
[13:42] <jrib> kenlik: you should say why you are running this command at all.  WHat did you do to make you want to run this command?  Also, pastebin "apt-cache policy PACKAGE" for every package mentioned in your paste
[13:45] <bipul> kenlik, is there any other installation is going on ?.
[13:46] <andyhunt66> good afternoon - I've got a question about the extent of support offered for the LTS versions
[13:46] <hombretao> hi all, i was wondering if anyone can help me figure out how to configure the "run command box" that pops out when pressing Alt+F2
[13:47] <andyhunt66> If a customer installed a later version of e.g. MySQL than was default packaged with LTS 12.04 - would that in any way reduce the amount of support they would receive (assuming they had a support contract) ?
[13:47] <sperrhaken> bipul: Doesn't dpkg report an error in that case, saying that it could not acquire the lock?
[13:48] <Rory> sperrhaken: you are correct
[13:48] <Rory> hombretao: What do you want to do to it?
[13:49] <philinux> hombretao;~ alt f2 then type in fire
[13:49] <philinux> hombretao;~ as an example
[13:50] <kenlik> jrib, Ok my first attempts was apt-get install libasterisk-agi-perl and it show dependency problems above
[13:50] <kenlik> jrib, 2nd try was apt-get -f install to fix the problem
[13:51] <jrib> kenlik: include libast... in your apt-cache policy paste
[13:51] <Rory> kenlik: I have a script which does a lot of package-fix-y things you can see it here http://rory.sh/fixpackages
[13:51] <xangua> andyhunt66: only packages in the official repositories are supported if that is what you ask
[13:51] <jrib> Rory, kenlik: i would not advise running that script
[13:51] <Rory> jrib: oh, why?
[13:51] <andyhunt66> xangua - thanks - does the inclusion of a later package (which won't be supported) affect the support for the rest of the system?
[13:51] <jrib> Rory: that apt-get install -fy seems DANGEROUS.  apt-get -f sometimes wants to do really stupid things
[13:52] <bipul> sperrhaken, sorry i don't get you?
[13:52] <Voziv> Anyone know why I might get "initctl: Unknown job: php5-fpm" when trying to start php 5.5.6?
[13:52] <Rory> jrib: I've seen his apt-get -f
[13:52] <xangua> andyhunt66: if you mean you install or update a program out of official repositories and wordk for you good, but you are on your own
[13:56] <hombretao> i just got disconnected for a second, ill ask again
[13:56] <sperrhaken> bipul: My question was in reference to: "is there any other installation is going on?"
[13:57] <hombretao> is there a way to choose which keywords trigger whihc applications with the Alt+F2 "Run command box"?
[13:57] <philinux> hombretao;~ no it just looks up installed apps
[13:57] <Eloy_> I just plugged a AvermediaTV USB 2.0 in my laptop. lsusb tell me ID 07ca:0026 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. AVerTV
[13:57] <kenlik> jrib, check this with apt-cache policy ->  http://pastebin.com/EjAjEqur
[13:58] <Eloy_> how can i see if it is supported??
[13:58] <philinux> hombretao;~ for example alt f2 then type in gnome
[13:58] <bipul> sperrhaken, oh i see. yes because i have faces such problem.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Eloy_: search for the 8 character hex id
[13:59] <zykotick9> Eloy_: have a look at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia
[13:59] <Eloy_> in terminal??
[13:59] <hombretao> yeah, it shows a list of apps begining with genome. philinux
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Eloy_: no, on the internet
[13:59] <Eloy_> zykotick9: yes i just read it, but mine is older than them
[13:59] <philinux> hombretao;~ thats all it does
[13:59] <macsplean> hey can someone help me make an alias in bash?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: sure, what is the coomand and what alias?
[14:00] <jrib> kenlik: figure out why that package isn't configure yet -- anyway sorry but I have to leave to work
[14:00] <macsplean> ActionParsnip: I want to make a shortcut for rake db:migrate
[14:00] <hombretao> philinux: so, if i tweak the app names on the place Alt+F2 looks for them, i mess up everything? :c
[14:00] <dyu> macsplean: rdbm="rake db:migrate"
[14:01] <zykotick9> macsplean: i'd suggest creating ~/.bash_aliases and adding your "alias foo = bar" in there (log out / back in to enable .bash_aliases)
[14:01] <jrib> kenlik: you can see funky things going on with the versions.  You have a later version than what apt is complaining about
[14:01] <philinux> hombretao;~ what are you trying to achieve?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: in   ~/.bashrc   add:    alias rdbm="rake db:migrate"
[14:01] <dyu> macsplean i mean alias rdbm="rake db:migrate"
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: might be single quotes
[14:01] <macsplean> should I do bashrc or bash_aliases?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: then to test, run:   source ~/.bashrc
[14:01] <hombretao> philinux: i want to press Alt+F2 and type "chrome" instead "google-chrome" to open chrome browser
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> macsplean: bashrc
[14:01] <hombretao> philinux: also, its wont open neatbeans, it won't show up
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hombretao: is that in Dash?
[14:02] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i think creating .bash_aliases is better then editing .bashrc myself.
[14:02] <hombretao> ActionParsnip: not sure, how do i check that? :c
[14:02] <philinux> hombretao;~ would be easier to pin the app to the launcher
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> hombretao: are you using Unity shell?
[14:02] <philinux> hombretao;~ one click no typing
[14:03] <hombretao> ActionParsnip: no, im a ctually running linux mint ubuntu
[14:03] <hombretao> philinux: i was trying to skip mouse/trackpad
[14:03] <xangua> !mint | hombretao
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> hombretao: mint is not supported here
[14:03] <hombretao> ok, sorry
[14:03] <hombretao> thanks for your help
[14:04] <kenlik> jrib, i think the problem is with linux-headers-3.2.0-54-generic, i need to be installed to solve, right but don't work
[14:07] <santhosh_> hai iam installing ubuntu on kvm but when i opening the ubuntu my main is not getting internet
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: how do you connect to the web, wireless? wired? 3G....
[14:08] <santhosh_> wired with static ip
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: can you ping your default gateway?
[14:09] <zykotick9> santhosh_: are you really using virt-manager, or kvm directly from terminal?
[14:09] <santhosh_> it is not connect when my kvm machine it is possible my main is not possible
[14:09] <santhosh_> iam using kvm
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: can you ping your default gateway?
[14:10] <santhosh_> it is not connecting
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> santhosh_: is there a possibilty to use DHCP to see if that succeeds?
[14:10] <zykotick9> santhosh_: are you giving any network switches to kvm currently?  what's the command you are using?
[14:11] <cyc> hi there
 i want sharing net with single ip
[14:12] <santhosh_>  <zykotick9> means
[14:13] <cyc> After installing 3.11 kernel my usb mouse stopped working. Touchpad is still working ... mouse is detected, but cursor won't move. Has anyone else experienced this?
[14:13] <cyc> This is happening on 13.10
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> cyc: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:14] <andyhunt66> xangua - thank you!
[14:14] <cyc> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[14:14] <lsl> ls
[14:14] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: (not sure if you're familiar with kvm) but, getting network working (in a non-NATed way) would be VERY challenging on ubuntu (ie. you can't use N-M i don't think, as it requires a bridge)
[14:14] <auronandace> cyc: 13.10 ships with 3.11, you shouldn't need to install that kernel
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: not sure tbh, never used kvm
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> cyc: was this via updates, or have you installed a kernel you found on the web?
[14:15] <falkenhorst> @dadrc     biste noch da? der chat ist 2x abgeschmiert
[14:15] <cyc> auronandace true ... I've upgraded a few weeks ago to 13.10 but I've noticed today that 3.8 is still used ... that's why I installed it
[14:15] <cyc> ActionParsnip, apt-get, of course
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> cyc: if you unplug the device, wait a few seconds then shove it back in, is it ok?
[14:16] <cyc> It all started when I was trying to get kernel headers for 3.8 and then finding out I still use kernel from 13.04 for some reason ...
[14:17] <cyc> ActionParsnip, eh, I tried a few different devices already and checked in windows if they're still working. So no ... that doesn't change a bit :)
[14:18] <digitlman> anybody using picuntu?
[14:18] <cyc> http://pastebin.com/6LPHiE8Z
[14:18] <auronandace> digitlman: if it isn't official then it isn't supported here
[14:19] <digitlman> ok thanks
[14:19] <cyc> this happens if I disconnect the mouse (it's a wireless one, but an old fashioned one with a cord doesn't work either)
[14:20] <cyc> Other usb devices seem to work fine, usb stick for example.
[14:22] <robin__> is it possible to change 12.04 GDM loginscreen to the newest one known from 13.04 http://i.stack.imgur.com/OfG75.png
[14:22] <cyc> so ... maybe I'm having problems because 13.10 install was an upgrade, not a clean install. Still ... a mouse is pretty basic stuff :)
[14:22] <auronandace> robin__: 12.04 uses lightdm, not gdm
[14:23] <sperrhaken> kenlik: Is it possible that you missed an error during the previous dpkg run?  (The one before you were trying to install libasterisk-agi-perl.)  Can you remember what you did then, maybe the logs can refresh your memory?  Have you tried running 'apt-get update' before 'apt-get -f install', hopefully getting the package information about the update /linux-server/ package?
[14:24] <philinux> robin__;~ whats the difference in the two
[14:24] <robin__> no it says gdm ... i installed from minimal image
[14:24] <philinux> robin__;~ you could install lightdm
[14:25] <robin__> is this fixing the problem ... i heard gdm is more reliable... whats 13.04 or 13.10 based on
[14:25] <philinux> robin__;~ whats  th problem you've got
[14:26] <robin__> standard gdm login screen
[14:26] <robin__> i want to replace it with the nice one
[14:26] <philinux> robin__;~ then install lightdm and give it a whirl
[14:27] <dvineone> What is lightdm?
[14:28] <philinux> !lightdm
[14:28] <auronandace> dvineone: ubuntu's default login screen (display manager)
[14:28] <philinux> dvineone;~ have a quich net search
[14:29] <Le_Bacon> i have a weird error w/ k3b. could someone plz help?
[14:30] <cyc> I guess I'll create a usb boot disk with 13.10 and try ubuntu live ... and see if mouse works there normally
[14:30] <dvineone> oh i see. Did not  know it was called lightdm
[14:30] <Le_Bacon> i have a weird error w/ k3b. could someone plz help?
[14:30] <Le_Bacon> i have a weird error w/ k3b. could someone plz help?
[14:30] <Rory> !details | Le_Bacon
[14:32] <Le_Bacon> 'kay.  well, I'm on ubuntu 12.04.  When i try to burn an iso to a dvd+r, it prepares to do it, the it fails.
[14:32] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Does it give an error message? Does it occur with any .iso file or just one in particular? have you tried a different burning application like brasero?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> Le_Bacon, does your burner support +R? not all do
[14:33] <dvineone> Using brasaro?
[14:34] <Le_Bacon> Rory: well it's zorin os 6.4 ObrienDave: I've tried -R too, it doesn't work either. so i don't know.
[14:34] <Rory> Le_Bacon: This is the ubuntu support channel not zorin
[14:34] <Rory> Le_Bacon: I think you accidentally joined the wrong channel :)
[14:34] <Le_Bacon> i have the problem in ubuntu.  that's why i'm here.
[14:35] <ObrienDave> Le_Bacon, have you checked the ISO with MD5?
[14:35] <Le_Bacon> yeah, it appears to come out fine.
[14:35] <Le_Bacon> i think.
[14:35] <ObrienDave> lol
[14:35] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Can you try using the command-line tool "cdrecord" with the following command: cdrecord -v -pad speed=4 dev=0,0,0 path/to/your.iso
[14:35] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ ah you're trying to burn an OS iso
[14:35] <Le_Bacon> hey, i'm kind of a n00b here
[14:36] <dvineone> When burning DVD's with brasaro i think you need to install some additional libs.
[14:36] <Rory> dvineone: Not to burn a disk image (.iso)
[14:36] <Le_Bacon> in k3b?
[14:36] <ObrienDave> k3b should burn it with no problems
[14:36] <philinux> agreed ObrienDave
[14:37] <Le_Bacon> hmmm... well, i've got a problem.
[14:37] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Can you try using the command-line tool "cdrecord" with the following command: cdrecord -v -pad speed=4 dev=0,0,0 path/to/your.iso
[14:37] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ could be a bad dvd.
[14:37] <Rory> Le_Bacon: if it fails then the error output from that command will be useful
[14:37] <Le_Bacon> philinux: i've gone through a bunch of them
[14:38] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ I bet - hates em I do - I use dvd rw''s now
[14:38] <helmut_> hi
[14:38] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ I mainly use usb stick now
[14:38] <Rory> Le_Bacon: You could use a USb flash drive instead of a DVD if you are trying to burn an OS
[14:39] <Le_Bacon> philinux okay. but will an old laptop boot from that?
[14:39] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Only you will know that
[14:39] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ not necessarlity. Does k3b not show an error
[14:39] <Le_Bacon> okay
[14:40] <Le_Bacon> philinux yeah, it does.  it says it's a problem with the medium.
[14:41] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ use the command line stuff that Rory gave you ^^ might get more info
[14:41] <ObrienDave> how old is the burner?
[14:41] <Le_Bacon> ive tried several mediums though, and none of them work.
[14:41] <Le_Bacon> it's on old dell, i think its 10 years old.
[14:42] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ have you another machine to burn the iso on?
[14:42] <ObrienDave> might be time for a new burner or at least clean the lens
[14:42] <Le_Bacon> yeah, but do you have a good method of transporting the iso?
[14:43] <Rory> Le_Bacon: a flash drive...?
[14:43] <Rory> Le_Bacon: At a pinch, your phone
[14:43] <Le_Bacon> how 'bout an other dvd?
[14:43] <philinux> its 1.6 gig i think so should fit on aphone
[14:43] <Rory> Le_Bacon: lol if you could burn DVDs you won't need to transport the iso
[14:44] <philinux> Rory;~ i think he means as a data disk
[14:44] <Le_Bacon> no, i just mean as a storage device.
[14:44] <Rory> Le_Bacon: So you can burn DVDs, but you just can't burn this iso?
[14:44] <philinux> Le_Bacon;~ that might show if dvd burner works worth a shot
[14:44] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Can you try with the command I gave you earlier?
[14:45] <Le_Bacon> @Rory: what do i put the command into?
[14:45] <ObrienDave> terminal
[14:45] <Rory> !cli | Le_Bacon
[14:46] <Rory> err that factoid really wants updating
[14:46] <cyc> I've checked - after booting 13.10 from usb stick, mouse works fine. If I boot old 3.8 kernel, mouse also works, but then I get blank screen. If I boot 3.11 kernel nvidia drivers work fine, but only touchpad works, not the real mouse. Any suggestions besides clean install? :)
[14:46] <Le_Bacon> okay brb
[14:48] <Rory> Le_Bacon: Obviously replace /path/to/your.iso with the actual filename of the disk image (eg /home/username/Downloads/blahblah.iso)
[14:49] <Le_Bacon> Rory: here's what i get wodim: No write mode specified. wodim: Assuming -tao mode. wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits. scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 WARNING: the deprecated pseudo SCSI syntax found as device specification. Support for that may cease in the future versions of wodim. 
[14:50] <ObrienDave> needs to be -dao
[14:50] <cyc> Well, considering I have /home on a separate partition ... I'll make a clean install - that should work. Stupid as it sounds ... :)
[14:50] <mao> do you realize discuss which linux distro is pointless ??
[14:50] <Le_Bacon> what do u mean ObrienDave?
[14:51] <ObrienDave> -tao is Track At Once. -dao is Disk At Once
[14:51] <Le_Bacon> okay, how do i set that?
[14:51] <ObrienDave> not sure through wodim. I use k3b ;)
[14:51] <studentz> Hi there. After upgrade to the 14.04 I cannot login using lgdm, but I can get into the partition from terminal (Ctrl Alt F1). Any pointers? thanks
[14:52] <iceroot> studentz: #ubuntu+1
[14:52] <Le_Bacon> so do i
[14:54] <Rory> mao: What do you mean?
[14:56] <sfolter> /LIST
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> studentz: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support
[15:00] <studentz> Hi there. After upgrade to the  I cannot login using lgdm, but I can get into the partition from terminal (Ctrl Alt F1). Any pointers? thanks
[15:01] <kkkkkk> hi all, why my chrome is slow as compared with windows, chrome on linux has only one add on adblock and it takes 6 seconds to startup first time, while on windows, it take s 2-3 seconds, with months of history, many add ons etc
[15:01] <kkkkkk>  should i update chrome?? my version is old, 29.0 . something
[15:01] <zykotick9> studentz: for support of 14.04 you need the right channel (not here!)  use "/join #ubuntu+1" to get there.
[15:01] <kkkkkk> what is latest version of chrome??
[15:01] <ObrienDave> 31.0.1650.57
[15:02] <ObrienDave> stable
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> studentz: if you cannot fix stuff like that you probably shouldnt use pre-release
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> studentz: especially as it is so young
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> studentz: if you use Precise, you can upgrade direct to Trusty as it is LTS to LTS
[15:04] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: why my chrome is so slow
[15:04] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: can u help me
[15:04] <studentz> ActionParnsnip my bad I mean to say to last version.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: try closing the app and renaming it's config folder, then rerun
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> studentz: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:05] <molgrum> system alert sound doesn't play for me in unity, but it does in gnome shell. what could cause this? i have opened the sound configuration and the alert sound is "on" and at max volume
[15:05] <molgrum> anything else i can check?
[15:05] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: i have not downloaded any apps, and where is the config folder, i have only downloaded adblock plus
[15:06] <Rory> molgrum: What ubuntu version/
[15:06] <molgrum> Rory: 13.10
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: ~/.config/google-chrome
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: a quick look through your filesystem would have shown that
[15:07] <dumnut> hi, sound on my computer does not work. how do i find out what sound driver i have ?
[15:07] <Rory> !sound
[15:07] <Rory> dumnut: There's a guide here ^
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:08] <kkkkkk> actionparnship: okay i got it, but just to rename it or delete it
[15:09] <studentz> Actionparnship I'm not at the computer right now. But I remember the  lsb_release indicate last version. Also, I uninstall (purge) nvidia and noveau drivers, but the problem persist.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> kkkkkk: delete, less destructtive
[15:09] <dumnut> hi ubottu hi Rory hi ActionParsnip, ok i'll do what you guys suggested
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> studentz: are you using Optimus GPU (witchable)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: the command will make a url, what is the url please
[15:10] <studentz> ActionParnsnip Nope is a Desktop.
[15:11] <misterr_x_x_x> i'v a problem whit conky colors, isn't traspartent... any have a solution?
[15:11] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: it seems fast but my adblock plus is gone and i need to check it after reboot
[15:11] <Rory> misterr_x_x_x: Try in #conky
[15:11] <kkkkkk> ActionParsnip: i will be right there within few minutes
[15:14] <misterr_x_x_x> thanks rory
[15:15] <mao> HOW to make one applications to use the proxy ,  and the others just as usually ?  thanks..
[15:16] <dumnut> ActionParsnip: the url is http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=6763d25d0128f11ef2bc5eb183d4469d6a00c810
[15:18] <mao> ??
[15:18] <anonymous> hello
[15:21] <Rory> dumnut: it looks like your sound card is detected and installed fine, can you run the command: alsamixer
[15:21] <Rory> dumnut: That will bring up a horizontal bank of faders, use your arrow keys to navigate between them and check they're all turned up
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: run the large command just above step 2 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: then reboot to test
[15:24] <BluesKaj> dumnut. if you just upgraded then the intel hda driver probly isn't loading at startup , it's a known bug , in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , no output if the driver loads properly , but may need to reboot
[15:24] <santhosh_> hai iam installting centos as a host and in that kvm iam installting ubuntu but the 2 system are not connect at a time
[15:25] <santhosh_> is there anty solutions tell me
[15:25] <ikonia> santhosh_: that is a host problem, ask in #centos
[15:25] <zykotick9> santhosh_: personally i'd suggest asking in #kvm
[15:26] <santhosh_> ok evn that every one knows on that in that iam asking
[15:26] <ikonia> santhosh_: we understand what you are asking and it needs to be configured on the host, the host is centos, so the #centos support channel will help you
[15:27] <dumnut> ActionParsnip Rory and BluesKaj: i foloowed your troubleshooting page and upper right corner of screen at volume control it was on mute. i turned up voluime and it worked ok. thank-you for your help
[15:27] <santhosh_> ok the same problem iam getting ubuntu also
[15:27] <zykotick9> ikonia: networking kvm is "tricky", i really think #kvm would be able to help more...  but they might be sent to centos support to create the bridge ;)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> dumnut. np :)
[15:27] <cebor> Im on ubuntu 13.10 since last updates i must enter passphrase for my ssh key, is this i bug or have i broke something ?
[15:28] <ikonia> zykotick9: based on centos's default setup, it will simpley by either libvirtd not running, or the xml profile for bridges having the wrong interface name in, eg: he's using a wifi card called wlan0 instead of eth*
[15:28] <cebor> > no popup, i get it in prompt
[15:29] <zykotick9> ikonia: santhosh_ stated earlier they are NOT using virtmanager, but kvm directly (i'm not sure how accurate that is however ;)
[15:29] <ikonia> zykotick9: then it's more likley the second of the two situations
[15:29] <santhosh_> ok thanks
[15:29] <ikonia> zykotick9: as the second is nothing to do with virt/virsh
[15:30] <cebor> can someone with rsa key test this for me ?
[15:30] <lolcat> test what?
[15:30] <lolcat> cebor: if it has a passphrase, wont you have to type it in?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: d'oh
[15:31] <cebor> before you can click a checkbox save, now this window dont comes up
[15:31] <cebor> only a input in prompt
[15:34] <dumnut> ActionParsnip: good point, it is the obvious that i miss d'oh me
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: well, we got there
[15:38] <williangliao> it's time to go to bed, good night everyone,
[15:40] <juniour> hey i have intex tv tunner. can i can use it with ubuntu???
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> juniour: how does it connect the system?
[15:43] <juniour> ActionParsnip usb. i have done lsusb. its showing the device
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> juniour: any results for the 8 character hex id?
[15:43] <juniour> yep
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> juniour: what is it please?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> the ID
[15:44] <juniour> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 18ec:3280 Arkmicro Technologies Inc.
[15:45] <juniour> ActionParsnip ?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> juniour: what is the output of:   ls -al /dev/vid*
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> juniour: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2124151
[15:46] <juniour> ActionParsnip i am reading this post but not getting
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> juniour: are there any bugs reported?
[15:47] <juniour> crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 Nov 21 21:03 /dev/video0
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[15:49] <juniour> ActionParsnip y is it like that . everything works fine with windows but when we come to ubuntu just it fail to work
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> juniour: drivers and support
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> juniour: I can name several things that work in Linux but not in Windows
[15:50] <juniour> ActionParsnip wt to do now
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> juniour: check for bugs, report a bug
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> juniour: its stil worthwhile reading rviews to see what works with Ubuntu etc before buying. Then it will work in both
[15:57] <juniour> :)
[15:58] <juniour> ActionParsnip but what for now bro :)
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> juniour: use your windows OS for it
[15:58] <juniour> ActionParsnip heee haaaaaa nice answer :)
[16:00] <krambiorix> hi, i have installed php imap  like apt-get install php5-imap and all installed just fine... But now in my browser i get (again) : Fatal error: Call to undefined function imap_open() in.... wth?!
[16:00] <krambiorix> Can someone explain?
[16:01] <mhogan> Hi, I'm running 12.04LTS and would like to change the default protocol in remmina.  I've looked in ~/.remmina/remmina.pref but do not see it. Can someone tell me where to make the change?
[16:02] <jnpplf> mhogan, sounds like a question for #remmina or #ubuntu?
[16:03] <mhogan> jnpplf: I'll try #remmina, thanks
[16:03] <jnpplf> mhogan, there may not be one, just sayin' :)
[16:03] <zykotick9> jnpplf: ahhh, this is #ubuntu
[16:03] <jnpplf> It is.
[16:03]  * jnpplf looks around
[16:03]  * jnpplf runs away
[16:04] <jnpplf> That explain a lot.
[16:05] <zerowaitstate> *jnpplf puts a hand over one eye and looks around
[16:05] <MotherMGA> Hello, I have a problem with dual monitors on 13.10 using ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5430.    Basically, it looks like the screen buffer for my attached monitor is offset by about 4 pixels.  The laptop screen looks perfect.  There is about a 4 pixels strip on the right of my external monitor that displays a sliver of my laptop screen, along with some random pixels above/below because my laptop screen is smaller than the external moni
[16:05] <MotherMGA> Any clue on how I can fix that?
[16:07] <molgrum> i don't get this, as far as i see both unity and gnome shell uses the same sound configuring app. however the system alert sound doesn't play in unity for me.. it does in gnome shell
[16:08] <impradeepy> can we install vlc 2.1.1 on 13.04? officialy not but ney ppa ??
[16:08] <BluesKaj> impradeepy.why , what's the advantage over the default ?
[16:09] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: it has a bigger number for version ;)
[16:09] <philinux> bug fixes etc etc
[16:09] <BluesKaj> zykotick9. , newer means more stable to some
[16:09] <BluesKaj> :)
[16:09] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: newer means less-stable, to me ;)
[16:10] <philinux> impradeepy;~ just get the correct ppa
[16:10] <BluesKaj> philinux. what bug fixes , vlc is fine as it is
[16:10] <philinux> BluesKaj;~ I was generalising
[16:10] <impradeepy> ios port
[16:10] <BluesKaj> zykotick9. yeah , guiess my sarcasm didn't come thru :)
[16:11] <impradeepy> ney way thanks its better use google search
[16:11] <impradeepy> njoy all bye
[16:12] <minari02> hola
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !info vlc raring
[16:19] <richard305> New here: can anyone help me with sound issues in 13.10?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> richard305: what is the issue?
[16:22] <simonpatapon> hi
[16:23] <richard305> ActionParsnip: i was trying to get skype to work and i'm pretty sure i broke something now when i pull up pulseaudio mixer and play things in banshee, the sounds are registering on the screen, but nothing's coming out of the speakers
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> richard305: tried:   killall pulseaudio    wait 5 seconds then try sound stuff
[16:24] <wheatthin> sounds like pulseaudio has been a common problem lately
[16:25] <richard305> yeah, still nothing
[16:25] <richard305> pulseaudio's volume control shows that it knows the songs are playing
[16:25] <simonpatapon> I want to backup a drive on a windows server 2008 system to a Ubuntu system... wich is better? getting file from ubuntu or sending files from windows server?
[16:25] <richard305> it's just not making it to the speakers
[16:26] <philinux> richard305;~ see this http://m.webupd8.org/2013/10/get-sound-working-in-skype-with-ubuntu.html?m=1
[16:26] <philinux> wheaties466;~ just skype i think
[16:26] <richard305> i actually did that
[16:26] <richard305> i think it fixed skype, but i can't be sure because i've screwed something else up in the process
[16:27] <wheatthin> philinux, nah, it's not just this one situation I'm talking about :)
[16:27] <richard305> i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling pulseaudio
[16:27] <eugene-c1> Hi
[16:27] <wheatthin> richard305, can you check alsamixer in the console and see if it has anything muted?
[16:28] <philinux> richard305;~ delete the pulse audio cookie too
[16:28] <BarackObama_I> Hi folks.
[16:28] <richard305> well that's darn odd
[16:28] <BluesKaj> richard305. cat /proc/asound/modules , what's the output ?
[16:28] <Akonkwa> Hi everyone
[16:28] <richard305> the moment i opened the alsamixer it started working
[16:29] <eugene-c1> i'm starter Ubuntu user. who can recommend me nice audio player with radio?
[16:29] <Akonkwa> How can I read the topic ?
[16:29] <wheatthin> alsamixer is conflicting with pulseaudio resources
[16:29] <Pici> Akonkwa: /topic
[16:29] <richard305> it sounds like it
[16:29] <BluesKaj> no alsa just loaded
[16:29] <richard305> i'm going to try shutting down, rebooting, and seeing if it stays working
[16:29] <BluesKaj> pulse rides on top of alsa as a soundserver
[16:30] <deersi> can anyone help in connecting a 3.5G Connect iBall USB modem on Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:30] <wheatthin> so if it just loaded, it would have showed any output acknowledgement in the pulseaudio wave thingy
[16:30] <Akonkwa> @Pici : thx
[16:30] <wheatthin> wouldn't*
[16:30] <BarackObama_I> Plug it in Deersi.
[16:30] <themysticgeek> Hi. Can nebody suggest another way of creating a custom ubuntu live cd besides remastersys?
[16:31] <Akonkwa> Can I ask questions about linuxw here ?
[16:31] <philinux> Akonkwa;~ !topic
[16:31] <wheatthin> ubuntu :)
[16:31] <Akonkwa> !topic
[16:31] <wheatthin> if it isn't ubuntu related #linux
[16:32] <Akonkwa> when I tipe /topic it says ' Insufficient arguments for command"
[16:33] <wheatthin> Akonkwa, you're doing that in the channel? if not, you have to supply the channel
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !topic
[16:33] <themysticgeek> Hi. Can nebody suggest another way of creating a custom ubuntu live cd besides remastersys?
[16:33] <Pici> Akonkwa: This is the official Ubuntu support channel, if you have a question about Ubuntu, just ask.
[16:33] <cebor> can i prevent that i getting root access via grub ?
[16:34] <mac_12> hi to everyone
[16:34] <Akonkwa> !topic #ubuntu
[16:34] <eugene-c1> can anyone help me: how to change graphic theme of DE in Ubuntu 12 04? I'm new to linux :)
[16:34] <Akonkwa> wheatthin:  yes I'm doing it in the channel
[16:35] <themysticgeek> :(
[16:35] <richard305> stayed fixed after reboot
[16:35] <wheatthin> well gosh.. you're welcome :P
[16:36] <richard305> i guess somehow i hadn't reinitialized alsa after reinstalling it and pulseaudio and opening the alsa mixer as opposed to the pulseaudio one somehow fixed it
[16:36] <richard305> so thanks :)
[16:36] <wheatthin> :)
[16:37] <richard305> crazy. right then, back to work. no more excuses.
[16:37] <themysticgeek> Hi
[16:37] <Akonkwa> I'm trying  to remove a file named <filename> in any subdirectory or deeper of a specific directory. DOes anyone know how to do this ?
[16:42] <cebor> Akonkwa: rm subdir/subsubdir/filname  ?
[16:43] <themysticgeek> Hi. Can nebody suggest another way of creating a custom ubuntu live cd besides remastersys?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> !custom
[16:44] <themysticgeek> !custom
[16:44] <vaskozl> Hello!
[16:45] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu Customization Kit
[16:45] <vaskozl> Hey back in 13.04 I remember that there was a "/etc/acpi/lid.sh" script that would control what happens when you turn of your lid
[16:46] <vaskozl> It is no longer their....
[16:46] <BluesKaj> themysticgeek. there used to be an app to make custom live media , but my memory fails me :/
[16:46] <vaskozl> anyone know where I can achieve the same thing in 13.10?
[16:46] <BarackObama_I> Over and above all, it's just another day.
[16:46] <jhutchins_wk> vaskozl: turn of your lid?
[16:46] <allstarsnorks2> just realised 20GB is not enough size for a partition if you want to build custom UBuntu distros because they are all 5GB+++
[16:46] <vaskozl> Well afair it was a script that was run when the lid was closed/opened
[16:47] <themysticgeek> @ObrienDave: thanks
[16:47] <jhutchins_wk> vaskozl: It might have moved to udev.
[16:47] <vaskozl> So lets say I could have it write in a file, logging every time the computers goes to sleep and wakes up
[16:47] <vaskozl> moreover I could  have it so that it doesn't go to sleep
[16:47] <vaskozl> when I close the lid
[16:49] <vaskozl> jhutchins_wk: so what would I do?
[16:50] <Xtreme666> Hello Guys, I am using XUbuntu, and xfce is still saving my session when i ask it not to. How to fix this issue?
[16:50] <navetz> hey guys what's the best irc client for ubuntu?
[16:50] <Xtreme666> navetz, you are in it
[16:50] <zykotick9> !best | navetz
[16:51] <zykotick9> navetz: xchat is popular for gui, and irssi/weechat in terminal.  YMMV
[16:51] <navetz> okay cool. I currently don't have a client so I was looking for a couple suggestions
[16:51] <ObrienDave> some like HexChat
[16:51] <navetz> I'm just using the broswer irc webchat
[16:51] <zykotick9> !irc | navetz
[16:51] <vaskozl> ok so here is my question in another way: Where is the config that allows you to change the events on lid close, power button, etc.
[16:52] <Xtreme666> i like xcgat
[16:52] <Xtreme666> xchat
[16:52] <Xtreme666> i use it on windows and linux
[16:52] <navetz> thanks everyone I'll give xchat a shot
[16:52] <vaskozl> some like irssi
[16:52] <Xtreme666> anyone with xfce bug solution?
[16:52] <Sh1G3rU> weechat
[16:52] <vaskozl> weechat is good
[16:53] <ObrienDave> you'll like HexChat
[16:53] <vaskozl> howcome everyone starts arguing about a "best irc client" and then noone actually answers propper questions
[16:53] <Sh1G3rU> weechat has lots of pluginx
[16:53] <allstarsnorks2> Hey guys, how do I delete a file as root?
[16:53] <ObrienDave> we're funny that way ;P
[16:53] <zykotick9> allstarsnorks2: "sudo rm foo"
[16:54] <prakash09> hello
[16:54] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ be very careful - here be dragons
[16:54] <allstarsnorks2> or, how do I access the root account?
[16:54] <prakash09> i am using ubuntu 12.04 lts. how can i switch between different apps quickly
[16:54] <vaskozl> alt+tab
[16:54] <vaskozl> or WinKey + # of application
[16:54] <vanishing> sudo -s
[16:54] <Sh1G3rU> lol vaskozl
[16:54] <vaskozl> on the taskbar
[16:54] <vanishing> sudo su
[16:55] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ would help if you say exactly what you need to do
[16:55] <prakash09> allstarsnorks2: sudo su
[16:55] <Myrtti> meh, sudo su is redundant and a bit wrong
[16:55] <zykotick9> vanishing: prakash09 DON'T suggest "sudo su"!  it's wrong!
[16:55] <allstarsnorks2> ohilinux: I want to delete an .iso file I built that took like 5GB of my disc drive
[16:55] <vanishing> zykotick9: erm...really?
[16:55] <vanishing> didn't know that
[16:55] <vanishing> or rather su
[16:55] <vanishing> lol
[16:55] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ that should be sudo -i
[16:56] <Myrtti> allstarsnorks2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:56] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ where is it located why root
[16:56] <Sh1G3rU> guys dont use root you can do everything you need with sudo
[16:56] <zykotick9> Sh1G3rU: +1
[16:57] <vaskozl> there is nothing wrong with root
[16:57] <Sh1G3rU> thnx zykotick9
[16:57] <vaskozl> I have a root terminal open all the time
[16:57] <allstarsnorks2> file system > home > remastersys > remastersys
[16:57] <Sh1G3rU> vaskozl, the problem is that 99% of people who uses root messes everything
[16:57] <Sh1G3rU> on daily basis i mean
[16:57] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ just cd to the folder then sudo rm the file
[16:57] <vaskozl> Sh1G3rU: I think the main problem with root is practical.
[16:57] <Xtreme666> :(
[16:58] <vaskozl> Sh1G3rU: if you create a file as root, you can't then open it as a normal user without hitting it with chmod and stuff
[16:58] <allstarsnorks2> so, cd home/remastersys/remastersys?
[16:58] <k1l> vaskozl: please stick to the ubuntu way in here when giving advises. thanks
[16:58] <Sh1G3rU> vaskozl,  you can sudo chown user:user file
[16:58] <prakash09> is there any software that makes switching easy in ubuntu 12.04
[16:58] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ / in front of home
[16:59] <Sh1G3rU> root is the pandora box
[16:59] <vaskozl> Sh1G3rU: I mean working with a root terminal sucks, unless you wan't to give all your other application root access, which you definately shouldn't
[16:59] <BluesKaj> prakash09. switching to ?
[16:59] <Sh1G3rU> :P that is why binarys on the /usr/bin has all the sticky bit
[16:59] <vaskozl> I just use the root terminal to install things :D
[16:59] <prakash09> Blueskaj:switching between different apps fast
[17:00] <allstarsnorks2> cd ;~ /home/remastersys/remastersys/
[17:00] <vaskozl> because I don't want to type the password every time I use apt-get
[17:00] <philinux> prakash09;~ do you mean alternatives to win apps
[17:00] <zykotick9> !wfm | vaskozl
[17:00] <k1l> prakash09: press alt+tab
[17:00] <Sh1G3rU> vaskozl,  my for the last 3 years has a dual boot xubuntu and freebsd and i never used root on my xubuntu
[17:00] <prakash09> no,i mean if 2-3 applications are open at a time then switching between them fast
[17:01] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ yep
[17:01] <k1l> prakash09: yes, i mean that too
[17:01] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ then ls to see the files
[17:01] <k1l> prakash09: or if you us unity, use the superkey+number shown
[17:02] <prakash09> K1:thanks
[17:02] <kephra> what ubuntu file to download for USB, for someone who has no (slow) internet to install it
[17:02] <Kaneo> Hello guys, there is a HDMI port in my laptop, and I'd like to find out if it supports input or output, how can I find out?
[17:02] <allstarsnorks2> I don't understand. Why does applications that build custom distros take up a massive amount of space
[17:02] <BluesKaj> prakash09.ka it's hdmi out , for sure
[17:02] <Kaneo> ?
[17:02] <Kaneo> guys?
[17:03] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ you'll have to ask himself
[17:03] <vaskozl> input?
[17:03] <zykotick9> Kaneo: see BluesKaj above
[17:03] <vaskozl> I would assume only output
[17:03] <BluesKaj> err sorry prakash09 Kaneo^'
[17:03] <vaskozl> check with xrandr
[17:03] <pablov> join #edx
[17:03] <zykotick9> Kaneo: and don't crosspost to different channels at the same time
[17:03] <Kaneo> BluesKaj: I'd like to find out though.
[17:03] <Kaneo> BluesKaj: how can I find out?
[17:03] <vaskozl> Kaneo: input?
[17:04] <Kaneo> vaskozl: ?
[17:04] <Kaneo> xrandr shows
[17:04] <Kaneo> HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:04] <Kaneo> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[17:04] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ fragadelic is the man to ask
[17:04] <vaskozl> Kaneo: so you have nothing plugged in?
[17:04] <allstarsnorks2> alright, found te files
[17:04] <BluesKaj> Kaneo. the only video inputs on a pc/laptop are video capture cards , that aren'/t installed by default , unless you did
[17:04] <rjzell> can anyone help me with an issue i ran into while upgrading to 13.10 last night?
[17:04] <kephra> allstarsnorks2, Wirth's law "software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster."
[17:04] <philinux> allstarsnorks2;~ I thought 4 gig was the limit of remastersys
[17:05] <allstarsnorks2> philinux: PArtition went from from 14GB to 9GB because remastersys
[17:06] <rjzell> about halfway through the upgrade, my system froze. i left it for about 45 minutes and it still would not respond to anything.
[17:06] <Kaneo> I connected one HDMI cable in my laptop, and the other end into my Xbox 360 console, and now I'd like to view my Xbox 360 screen on my monitor instead of showing up my usual laptop screen, Linux isn't detecting anything, Windows would usually detect the cable but why isn't Linux doing it? do I have to install something?
[17:07] <Sh1G3rU> rjzell,  is you pc working right now?
[17:07] <zykotick9> Kaneo: you HDMI is OUTPUT, NOT INPUT
[17:07] <jenJ33> suppose that you are responsible of a server which has got more than 20000 users suddenly an organisation makes you a call and tell you that one of your users is now hacking our server and they give you a warning which if you won't stop him in 30 mins, we will attack your server (DDoS) and further more we will sue you as well. They  give you their server IP address in other to make it very quick. Now my question is how can you find thi
[17:07] <pirulinux> hola a todos
[17:08] <Kaneo> zykotick9: so?
[17:08] <zykotick9> Kaneo: so, your laptop is trying to output to your xbox - do you think that will work?
[17:08] <rjzell> yes, it is working. i ran the dpkg --config -a command and it seems ot be working again, but wanted to know if there was any way to make sure nothing in the background was still broken
[17:08] <vaskozl> jenJ33: this is the ubuntu forum
[17:08] <Kaneo> zykotick9, can I output my screen to the TV?
[17:09] <vaskozl> Kaneo: yes
[17:09] <k1l> Kaneo: you cant use your laptop as a monitor only.
[17:09] <zykotick9> Kaneo: sure HMDI from laptop to TV
[17:09] <jenJ33> vaskozl: ubuntu couldn't be a server operation system? where should I ask my q?
[17:09] <k1l> Kaneo: its a one-way-street. only from the laptop -> tv/monitor and not into the laptop
[17:09] <Kaneo> if I connect one HDMI cable in my laptop, and the other end at my TV, will Ubuntu automatically output?
[17:09] <k1l> jenJ33: of course is ubuntu a server OS
[17:09] <Kaneo> or will I gotta do something?
[17:10] <vaskozl> Kaneo: yes
[17:10] <vaskozl> Kaneo: you can further configure it trough the screen settings
[17:10] <vaskozl> Kaneo: you should see a picture instantly.
[17:11] <allstarsnorks2> THE BUILD IS DONE WOO
[17:11] <pirulinux> There is one of these chat in Spanish
[17:12] <vaskozl> allstarsnorks2: good job!
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !es
[17:12] <pirulinux> muchas gracias ubottu
[17:13] <Sh1G3rU> !jp
[17:13] <Sh1G3rU> arrigato tadeimas ubottu
[17:14] <peterrooney> !crosspost
[17:22] <til4k> anyone here dual boot with UEFI
[17:23] <auronandace> !uefi | til4k
[17:23] <til4k> yeah ive read a lot about it
[17:23] <Johnny_Linux> pretty slick
[17:23] <FiremanEd> !ask | til4k
[17:24] <til4k> man you guys are obnoxious ill search then jesus
[17:24] <Sh1G3rU> !patience
[17:25] <allstarsnorks2> now i want to distribute my custom distro. ANy websites to recommend?
[17:25] <Sh1G3rU> distrowatch
[17:25] <Pandian> Hello
[17:26] <Pandian> I want to install https://launchpad.net/minesweeper-touch in 12.04
[17:26] <Pandian> any ideas
[17:27] <ObrienDave> allstarsnorks2, linuxtracker
[17:27] <FiremanEd> Pandian: Isn't that for Ubuntu Touch?
[17:28] <gorgonzola> hello peoples. packages.ubuntu.com is down? is it just outage or did it move somewhere else?
[17:28] <gorgonzola> related: is there a mirror i could use?
[17:28] <k1l> gorgonzola: temporary, i suggest
[17:28] <Pandian> @FiremanEd oh is there any minesweeper equivalent for ubuntu 12.04
[17:29] <gorgonzola> k1l oh. ok. thanks!
[17:30] <ObrienDave> Pandian, it's known as "Mines"
[17:31] <FiremanEd> Pandian: or Minefield
[17:31] <Pandian> ok thanks
[17:36] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ been down ages today
[17:37] <gorgonzola> philinux yeah, i've been trying to reach it all morning...
[17:37] <ObrienDave> Pandian, gnome-mines
[17:37] <gorgonzola> philinux that's why i came here to ask if it had moved or what
[17:38] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/
[17:38] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ handy site
[17:38] <gorgonzola> phillinux: ooh, that might come in handy. thanks for the tip.
[17:39] <philinux> gorgonzola;~ welcome
[17:39] <navetz> hey guys where can I find the files for google chrom after it's installed?
[17:40] <zykotick9> navetz: check in /opt (just a guess!)
[17:41] <navetz> zykotick9, there it is!
[17:48] <DeepBlue> hello evry1 , i am looking for a driver modem zte mdsl ac8700 o/s ubuntu ver 7.4 can you hlp pls
[17:48] <ilhami> Hey..
[17:49] <ObrienDave> ubuntu 7.4???
[17:49] <ilhami> I need help with my external monitor. When I plug it in I can't get past login screen.
[17:50] <reisio> why not
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | DeepBlue if that is not a joke
[17:50] <ilhami> I don't know. It returns back to the login screen all the time. When its plugged off and I only use my laptop screen it works fine.
[17:53] <reisio> ilhami: and as guest?
[17:53] <ilhami> reisio: I didn't try as a guest. Should I try?
[17:56] <BarackObama_I> The IRS, go figure.
[18:03] <eugene_mac> hello! I have a problem: nouveau drivers are not selected (though, installed): when I try 'lsmod | grep nouveau' i get nothing in return. I try 'modprobe nouveau', but I get and error of "could not insert nouveau: no such device". in case this is important, I load with 'acpi=off' option, as I cannot load otherwise. Can anyone help me?
[18:07] <juniour> hi
[18:12] <gener1c> i have a file in my path that is called screedump, i ran this utility and all it did is spit some stuff from my bootup to stdout
[18:12] <gener1c> what is it for?
[18:12] <gener1c> is it normal to have this?
[18:14] <allstarsnorks2> command to delete an .iso file as root?
[18:14] <BarackObama_I> sudo
[18:14] <gener1c> sudo rm
[18:17] <BarackObama_I> Where the cash at?
[18:17] <BarackObama_I> Where the stash at?
[18:18] <bazhang> !ot | BarackObama_I
[18:18] <FiremanEd> BarackObama_I : please behave.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> he's probly a republican :)
[18:19] <BarackObama_I> Ubuntu is African, what do they have over there?
[18:19] <BarackObama_I> Does Africa has the two party system?
[18:19] <bazhang> take the chat elsewhere BarackObama_I
[18:20] <ilhami> Hey. I still haven't solved my issue. I have a problem with my external monitor. I can't get past the login screen when it's plugged in.
[18:20] <ObrienDave> well played ;)
[18:21] <allstarsnorks2> 1.52GB distro ugh
[18:22] <jbroome> ubuntu-server and install what you want from there
[18:22] <impossible> ilhami, what do you mean?
[18:22] <mollitz> Is it possible to just route a given IP Range or Ports with openvpn? I need to connect to a mysql odbc via openvpn and they have no internet on their server...
[18:22] <ilhami> impossible: whenever I plugin my external monitor I am sent back to the login screen.
[18:23] <impossible> ilhami, so you log in and when you plug the ex. monitor is kicks ya out?
[18:23] <ilhami> yes!
[18:23] <impossible> i use an external and it doesnt do that to me :(
[18:23] <BluesKaj> ilhami. plug it in before login
[18:23] <BluesKaj> impossible.^
[18:24] <impossible> true! make sure its plugged before
[18:24] <impossible> i always have my laptop plugged in maybe thats why
[18:24] <ilhami> I did BluesKaj... When I then enter my password the light on my monitor gets orange. You know its green until the login screen and all that..
[18:24] <ilhami> then it goes back to the login screen
[18:24] <ilhami> like a loop :D
[18:24] <ilhami> infinite loop
[18:24] <ilhami> hehehe
[18:24] <FloodBot1> ilhami: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <ilhami> Sorry.
[18:24] <impossible> lol, you got too excited
[18:25] <BluesKaj> ilhami. what kind of connection to the monitor ?
[18:25] <ilhami> its vga.
[18:25] <ilhami> can you check xrandr? :D
[18:29] <ilhami> BluesKaj ?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> ilhami. which graphics , perhaps you need a better driver
[18:30] <troulouliou_dev> hi how can i reset all the credentials used by dbconfig-common ; i m trying to configure redmine on psql but i m never prompted for admin/user credentials
[18:31] <ilhami>  BluesKaj I have nvidia
[18:31] <ilhami> or I have two graphic cards
[18:31] <ilhami> I use the intel one for regular stuff and Nvidia for games.
[18:32] <BluesKaj> ilhami. check your settings/additional drivers
[18:32] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Anyone there?
[18:32] <ilhami> BluesKaj to be honest I was sent from the Linux channel to here. I am running Linux Mint,
[18:32] <katimaya> can anyone help me with getting tuxboot working on an old knoppix with kde 3.5.5?
[18:32] <LucidGuy> Plugged in USB drive.  dmesg does note the device as a generic sg2 type 0 .. and comments it as sdb.  Yet fdisk -l does not see a /dev/sd device, nor am I able to mount it.  Opinions?
[18:33] <katimaya> apt-get won't update
[18:33] <BluesKaj> ilhami. dual gpus on a laptop,  must be 'Optimus'
[18:33] <katimaya> i downloaded the source but it won't make
[18:33] <Trudko> guys i have ubuntu 13.10 and i installed apache2 then tried to reinstall it and since then i am not able to start it. i did reintall it again and when I run sudo service apache2 start nothing happens to error  nothing
[18:34] <BluesKaj> katimaya. this is ubuntu support , join# linuxmint
[18:34] <Trudko> i checked /var/log/apache2 but  logs are emtpy I worry i messed up something in ubuntu.
[18:35] <smoores> I have ubuntu on /dev/sda and windows 7 on /dev/sdb, how can I setup the ubuntu drive with a bootloader to choose ubuntu or windows at boot?
[18:36] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Guys, quick question: I need Ubuntu 64-bit if i want to dualboot it on my Win8 Laptop right?
[18:36] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Because 32-bit does not work
[18:36] <tozen> smoores: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair | smoores
[18:37] <BluesKaj> !info boot-repair | smoores
[18:37] <BluesKaj> hmm
[18:41] <weeG> i just got a access to remote server that i plan to use for backup/getting to know linux world a bit :) I downloaded X2Go to gain graphical access to it, but it currently doesnt accept it (atleast it wont connect) i can connect via telnet
[18:41] <BluesKaj> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair , smoores
[18:41] <weeG> is there any chance someone could tell me how to enable remote desktop from shell ? :)
[18:43] <smoores> BluesKaj, thanks
[18:43] <katimaya> well nobody is answering there and ##linux has me muted even though i followed the directions
[18:43] <katimaya> i just want to burn a new ubuntu disk
[18:44] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: What is the server running now?
[18:44] <katimaya> but i guess i'll just try using some disk cleaner or something and see if i can get the one i have booting *shrugs*
[18:44] <BluesKaj> smoores. I've had good luck with it
[18:44] <weeG> ubuntu 13.4 64bit
[18:45] <weeG> *13.04 i mean
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> weeG  you mean graphical remote connection? otherwise, simply use ssh
[18:47] <weeG> yes...graphical :)
[18:47] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: Generally graphical desktops perform so badly over WAN that it's not worth the small advantage you get from using them to administer the server.  A server should be administered from the command line.
[18:47] <eugene_mac> hello! I have a problem: nouveau drivers are not selected (though, installed): when I try 'lsmod | grep nouveau' i get nothing in return. I try 'modprobe nouveau', but I get and error of "could not insert nouveau: no such device". in case this is important, I load with 'acpi=off' option, as I cannot load otherwise. Can anyone help me?
[18:48] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: Telnet should not be enabled on the server - it is terribly insecure and likely to lead to your server being hacked.
[18:48] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
[18:49] <BluesKaj> eugene_mac. look in settings for additional drivers and install one of the nvidias available there , if any
[18:49] <L1nn0s> lllllllllllll
[18:49] <eugene_mac> a sec
[18:49] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: You'll need sudo for that.
[18:49] <weeG> graphical access would be a lot easier for me to start with :)
[18:50] <jhutchins_wk> I think.
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: The first thing to do is to get ssh working, then disable/remove telnet.
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: After that, you can get a VNC server set up to do a desktop, or forward individual applications over X.
[18:51] <TwoRoses> Ciao a tutti!
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: Er, over ssh.
[18:51] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: it now says that I have Nvidia controller (which i knew before)
[18:51] <TwoRoses> !list
[18:52] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: I was wondering which controller it might be, and what it's pciid was.
[18:52] <weeG> okay thanks
 emm, what is pciid?
[18:54] <eugene_mac> BluesKaj: there are no nvidia drivers there, and once I install one from the repository it collapses the system. So I've decided to work with nouveau, but they don't seem to work either!
[18:55] <jhutchins_wk> weeG: You might look into freenx, it's supposed to have superior performance.
[18:55] <weeG> okay...thanks :)
[18:55] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: The pciid is the eight character numerical ID that shows up when you use the -nn  option on lspci.
[18:55] <BluesKaj> eugene_mac. sudo lshw -C video , which graphics ?
[18:56] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: It's what identifies the device to the system and is useful in determining what drivers it can use.
[18:56] <VoidAtValhalla> its called vnc
[18:56] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: 10de:0fe9
[18:56] <eugene_mac> BluesKaj: Nvidia, 10de:0fe9
[18:56] <weeG> btw is it possible to change the language of ubuntu on the fly or does it require re-installation?
[18:57] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: or was it number [0300] (stands before NVidia) you've been looking for?
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: That should work with noubveau.  I wonder if you have some other driver already mounted?
[18:58] <fhf> weeG: its possible just navigate to system settings -> Language and install additional language
[18:58] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: nothing i would have mounted myself
[18:58] <vanishing> weeG: you can change the language anyway you want
[18:58] <vanishing> on the fly
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: There's a lot of noise in /var/log/Xorg.0.log but you may be able to figure out what it's loading.
[18:58] <padrino> Can somebody help me adjust screen brightness
[18:58] <padrino> I've checked google and only solution I found was to install xBacklight (I did sudo-apt get xbacklight) and it installed and then it said to do xbacklight -set 50 which never did anythin
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: Oh, and nouveau is not a kernel module, it's an xorg driver.
[18:59] <marxiano> hi
[18:59] <VoidAtValhalla> ohai
[18:59] <seanz> For some reason, even though my user's umask is 0002, the umask actually being applied to new folders/files is 0022.
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: So it wouldn't show up in lsmod.
[18:59] <seanz> Anyone run into that?
[18:59] <padrino> Anybody? I got pretty bad eye strain and gonna have to resort back to Windows if I can figure this out
[19:00] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: "lsmod | grep nouveau" returns a bunch of nouveau?!?!
[19:00] <seanz> padrino: What kind of laptop?
[19:00] <weeG> okay thanks...im now installing gnome ...some VNC tut told me to do that before....kinda noticed that its all french :)
[19:00] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: Crud, I don't know.  Never had nvidia hardware.
[19:00] <Arch-TK> padrino: did you try restarting?
[19:00] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: no, though I've just found it in Xorg.0.log
[19:00] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: The high end cards actually have both kernel- and xorg- modules.
[19:00] <padrino> seanz a Sony Vaio, 4GB RAM, not sure of exact model, sorry
[19:00] <BluesKaj> padrino. threatening isn't going to help you , some patience will ,. however
[19:01] <padrino> Arch-TK, yes, didn't work :-( Are there any alternatives to xbacklight?
[19:01] <seanz> padrino: How did you install Ubuntu?
[19:01] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: when I boot from liveCD it does show up in lsmod
[19:01] <bin_sh> padrino, threatening to go back to windows doesn't effect us
[19:01] <cebor> since latest updates i cant save rsa_key passphrase to my keys ? anybody else with this problem, or somebody where it works. im on ubuntu 13.10,
[19:01] <padrino> BluesKaj I wasn't threatening?
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[19:01] <Dextrome> Hey peeps. What are the odds do you think, that the staff at my library would let me boot from a flashdrive so I can use my Linux distro instead of their Windows?
[19:01] <padrino> I wasn't threatening
[19:01] <vanishing> incoming kick..
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: Did you mess with the nvidia proprietary drivers?  That will blacklist noveau.
[19:02] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: I did, but then I returned all the settings, I've checked that already
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> Dextrome: Not real good.  You bypass all their security that way.
[19:02] <vanishing> Dextrome: really depends on the library admin
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> eugene_mac: Anything interesting in dmesg?
[19:03] <eugene_mac> jhutchins_wk: nothing I could highlight
[19:03] <Guest32447> I installed 13.10 Ubuntu then installed the xubuntu desktop, how ca I get the stock ubuntu book screen and login. Not a fan of the Xubuntu...
[19:04] <jhutchins_wk> Guest32447: You should be able to select the session type at login.
[19:05] <Spec> jhutchins_wk: 'bypass all their security' -> if you can bypass all the network and local security via a tiny usb stick, you're doing it wrong.
[19:05] <Guest32447> jhutchins_wk, I know I can change session type, but how to change the grub slash images and the login back to stock Ubuntu?
[19:07] <jhutchins_wk> Spec: Most people are.
[19:07] <jhutchins_wk> Spec: In a good environment they use something like 802.1 to allow only authorized systems, which prevents a system booted to a different OS from accessing anything.
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> !nvidia
[19:09] <padrino> finally found out how to do it :-)
[19:11] <mips> How do I retrieve a disabled accound on the forums without creating a new account?
[19:12] <mips> How do I retrieve a disabled accound on the forums without creating a new account?
[19:12] <VoidAtValhalla> Arch-TK: having fun here ;) ?
[19:13] <bin_sh> he's reliving his childhood
[19:13] <VoidAtValhalla> bin_sh: you are here too :D xoxoxoxo
[19:13] <Arch-TK> i haven't said anything here apart from 1 thing asking someone if they restarted after installing software bin_sh
[19:13] <VoidAtValhalla> Arch-TK: i have radar
[19:14] <VoidAtValhalla> :D
[19:14] <Arch-TK> we should probably stop spamming this place and go back to spam #archlinux-offtopic
[19:15] <VoidAtValhalla> mips if there is no *i forgot password because i didnt bother to remember one* to email you new temp pass ... you are out of luck
[19:16] <vanishing> crunchbang: are you...gotbletu?
[19:16] <bin_sh> mips, there should be a "forogt password" link
[19:16] <asus_> привет
[19:16] <VoidAtValhalla> bin_sh: i already told him ^_^
[19:16] <bin_sh> VoidAtValhalla, yeah i sent it as i saw that
[19:16] <bin_sh> lol
[19:16] <bin_sh> datlag
[19:17] <VoidAtValhalla> yea
[19:17] <asus_> Влад привет
[19:18] <bin_sh> asus_, english only please.
[19:18] <mips> VoidAtValhalla & bin_sh, so does this mean I have to create a new account and post in the resolution centre to get a old account reactivated? I've gone through te SSO thing but I still can't get into the forums, maybe it's a sign that I should not return.
[19:19] <bin_sh> mips, yeah if there's no way to recover your password
[19:19] <mips> Re there any forum mods/admins in this channel?
[19:19] <ikonia> mips: what do you need ?
[19:19]  * VoidAtValhalla giggles
[19:20] <adas> hi
[19:20] <Arch-TK> what do you mean by "disabled account"
[19:20] <VoidAtValhalla> ohai
[19:20] <asus_> hi adas
[19:21] <mips> ikonia, I need my account reinstated if possible. I've come to realise thaT I have posted so much stuff on this forum that I can't really do without my account. Searching as a non member and view stuff is a pain.
[19:21] <adas> is there a way to wget a link from www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=490750
[19:21] <adas> in command line
[19:21] <ikonia> mips: the best thing to do is email one of the team, or talk to one in #ubuntuforums
[19:21] <VoidAtValhalla> did you tried curl adas ?
[19:21] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Guys, i have a question about 64-bit
[19:22] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Is it supported as well as 32.bit?
[19:22] <ikonia> j4ckxandxj1ll: yes
[19:22] <mips> ikonia, got a link to email addresses by any chance?
[19:22] <VoidAtValhalla> mostly ... yes
[19:22] <ikonia> mips: it's on the bottom of the forum normally, and I've given you the channel with a few moderators in
[19:22] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Ok thanks. because i need to install the 64-bit, because i have to dual boot win8
[19:22] <VoidAtValhalla> .... huh ???
[19:23] <mips> j4ckxandxj1ll, the 64bit issues went away many many years ago!
[19:23] <j4ckxandxj1ll> :P thanks
[19:23] <VoidAtValhalla> mips: still some things like flash are awesome with 64bit ...
[19:23] <VoidAtValhalla> j4ckxandxj1ll: why do you need to install 64 ???
[19:23] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I just need Win8 for games :3
[19:23] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Games
[19:23] <adas> VoidAtValhalla: like "curl www.nyaa.se/?page=download&tid=490750"
[19:24] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Sorry, i have Win8
[19:24] <mips> VoidAtValhalla, I've not had issues with regards to 64-bit in ages, if you have a 64-bit cpu there is no reason not to use a 64-bit distro.
[19:24] <j4ckxandxj1ll> With the BUOS that has UFTI or something like that
[19:24] <VoidAtValhalla> .... you must be really drunk
[19:24] <j4ckxandxj1ll> *BIOS
[19:25] <Arch-TK> (U)EFI
[19:25] <j4ckxandxj1ll> mips, how much RAM do you have?
[19:25] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Thank you Arch-TK
[19:25] <VoidAtValhalla> mips: 64bit as architecture is fine and 99% of software is fine too with 64bit ... problems is some cloused bad software ....
[19:25] <Arch-TK> closed bad software?
[19:26] <VoidAtValhalla> Arch-TK: synonym for proprietary :D
[19:27] <Arch-TK> it was a rhetorical question.
[19:27] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I hate windows 8
[19:27] <VoidAtValhalla> j4ckxandxj1ll: so dont use it ...
[19:27] <j4ckxandxj1ll> But my love for League of Legends is stronger :P
[19:28] <VoidAtValhalla> so dont complain ...
[19:28] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I am still clinging to the hope that one day we will get a Linux client for LoL
[19:28] <SchrodingersScat> VoidAtValhalla: needs to complain to the right people, like whoever makes LoL
[19:29] <j4ckxandxj1ll> lol the Linux players tried
[19:29] <SchrodingersScat> j4ckxandxj1ll: write them more emails.
[19:29] <VoidAtValhalla> ^
[19:29] <abcd123> hello
[19:29] <j4ckxandxj1ll> They don't listen to emails. They are a multimillion company, you don't just get their emaols
[19:29] <j4ckxandxj1ll> *emails
[19:29] <phreak_er> Anyone know if you can use lvs / ipvs for tcp and udp sticking? Ex: rdp uses tcp, but in the new rdp version, it has a udp port as well. I need the tcp and the udp port to sticky to the same server.
[19:30] <j4ckxandxj1ll> We tried petitions etc
[19:30] <VoidAtValhalla> j4ckxandxj1ll: its not fault of gnu/linux that some developers cant/wont/doesnt want/... make multiplatform sw ....
[19:30] <SchrodingersScat> j4ckxandxj1ll: send them a letter then.  The important part is that you direct your frustrations where they are deserved.
[19:30] <abcd123> does anyone know how to get list of unique programs executed by me using ps -ef??
[19:30] <abcd123> I know there is grep and cut but I am not exactly sure how to run these
[19:30] <abcd123> *use
[19:30] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Guys i am not frustrated, nor am i blaming linux lol.
[19:31] <j4ckxandxj1ll> I love Linux, i never ever would blame it for anything
[19:31] <SchrodingersScat> j4ckxandxj1ll: I know, listing it as a reason to keep win8, but people often attribute that as a fault.
[19:31] <yeats> abcd123: 'ps -ef | grep ^yourusername'
[19:31] <yeats> !ot | j4ckxandxj1ll
[19:31] <j4ckxandxj1ll> Oh ok sorry
[19:32] <j4ckxandxj1ll> #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:32] <j4ckxandxj1ll> -_-
[19:32] <abcd123> yeats but how do I get only that last column of ps output?
[19:32] <abcd123> i think it's 7th column
[19:32] <yeats> abcd123: 'ps -ef | grep ^yourusername | awk '{print $NF}''
[19:33] <abcd123> thnx
[19:35] <abcd123> and if I want unique then i just add  |uniq at the end? (and not in the beginning or in the moddle soemwhere?)
[19:36] <Truebattleaxe88> I'm just wondering. when in kde windows how do I change the little logo for the "start" menu
[19:37] <Arch-TK> Truebattleaxe88:  right click > application launcher settings
[19:37] <platzhirsch> Some unicode symbols are not displayed properly. Is there something like extended unicode support for Ubuntu?
[19:38] <Truebattleaxe88> to make it my own Arch-TK
[19:38] <VoidAtValhalla> platzhirsch: what symbols ? what font ? what settings ...
[19:38] <platzhirsch> VoidAtValhalla: 🚌 http://www.marathon-studios.com/unicode/U1F68C/Bus
[19:38] <platzhirsch> seems to be Arial
[19:38] <Arch-TK> Truebattleaxe88: well then click on the icon in the settings and then click the other icons radio button
[19:39] <geirha> yeats, abcd123: ps -u "$USER" -o cmd=
[19:39] <VoidAtValhalla> Arch-TK: does ubuntu even have KDE ?
[19:39] <Truebattleaxe88> ahh gotcha. ok i'll do that when I get home.  I just wanted to edit it to be something I made.
[19:39] <Arch-TK> kubuntu does
[19:40] <Truebattleaxe88> Ya I added kde,xfce, icewm and fluxbox to my Ubuntu distro.  I use each for different purposes
[19:40] <VoidAtValhalla> Arch-TK: i see #ubuntu here <trolling>
[19:40] <geirha> ps -u "$USER" -o cmd= | sort -u  # unique lines
[19:40] <VoidAtValhalla> Truebattleaxe88: ugh ... overkill
[19:41] <Truebattleaxe88> mainly just tinkering with all of them
[19:41] <Truebattleaxe88> I prefer KDE when my wife needs to use the computer.  I prefer XFCE
[19:41] <Arch-TK> you mean your wife prefers XFCE
[19:42] <Truebattleaxe88> well she is familiar with both.  I don't really have a set preference
[19:42] <VoidAtValhalla> use dwm then ^_^
[19:43] <Truebattleaxe88> I'm trying to find a windows manager that is really customizable that I can still have a start panel and has my set of applications
[19:43] <mips> openbox once setup is all i would ever need, second choice would be xfce
[19:43] <Truebattleaxe88> never tried openbox
[19:43] <BluesKaj> Truebattleaxe88. KDE ftw! there
[19:44] <Truebattleaxe88> BluesKaj: you think KDE is horrible?  I find it very much like windows.  Which I don't like
[19:44] <Truebattleaxe88> can someone tell me a little bit more about MIR.  I just read on it the other day. Kind of confused as to what it really is
[19:45] <BluesKaj> FTW means for the win , Truebattleaxe88
[19:45] <Truebattleaxe88> ahh gotcha. my mistake
[19:45] <lecoeus> kde can look like windows, os x, gnome, unity or a minimalistic wm...
[19:45] <VoidAtValhalla> Truebattleaxe88: awesome wm
[19:46] <adas> VoidAtValhalla: just wget http://www.nyaa.se/?page=rss&term=[HorribleSubs]+Naruto+Shippuuden+-++[720p].mkv ?
[19:46] <Truebattleaxe88> VoidAtValhalla: seems very minimalistic and something I'd like to test out in a virtual machine
[19:47] <adas> or curl *
[19:47] <Truebattleaxe88> So what is this about Mir?
[19:47] <Truebattleaxe88> its replacing unity?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> rep0lacing X'
[19:47] <Truebattleaxe88> what exactly does that mean?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> !X
[19:48] <Truebattleaxe88> so mir will do the same thing?
[19:48] <Kalculus> I have a laptop with a touchscreen.  When I use Ubuntu it gets rid of the mouse cursor and the touchpad just lets me scroll.  I have to use the touchscreen to click stuff.  How do I make the mouse cursor come back when I use the touchpad?
[19:49] <Truebattleaxe88> I'm a little confused
[19:49] <Truebattleaxe88> so for example I have 14.04 on my laptop. which is running X.  I can replace that with mir?
[19:50] <itgeekwhisperer> I'm trying to install zimbra desktop... not really familiar with commands... is there a simple way to install after downloading??\
[19:50] <Beldar> Kalculus, Any other OS you have seen have a cursor with touch capability, I have never seen it.
[19:50] <zerooneone> i'd like to make a package from apt-get source ruby1.9.3 but apt tells me Picking 'ruby1.9.1' as source package instead of 'ruby1.9.3' how can i get the version i want?
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> !mir | Truebattleaxe88
[19:51] <Beldar> zerooneone, check the ppa's anything not in the repos is not supported is all.
[19:51] <Kalculus> Beldar: Windows lets me use both the touch and the trackpad for the mouse with cursor
[19:52] <fishcooker> my installation of 12.04.1 server stuck on 10%
[19:52] <Beldar> Kalculus, Ah I see that makes sense, not sure in ubuntu my self, I have no touch with a pad.
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: on what part is that?
[19:52] <fishcooker> what happen here.. how do i know the log?.. in case amd64 installation here
[19:52] <fishcooker> loading additional components
[19:52] <fishcooker> retrieveing fs-core-modules-3.2xxx-generic-di
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: setup freezes?
[19:53] <bekks> fishcooker: did you compare the md5sum of the medium prior installing?
[19:53] <fishcooker> yes
[19:53] <fishcooker> yess
[19:53] <Kalculus> Beldar: sometimes i can use the trackpad to get the cursor to show up in Ubuntu.  after i touch the screen though, the cursor disappears and i don't know how to get it back.  Even if i touch the trackpad, it only allows me to scroll
[19:53] <fishcooker> i do
[19:53] <fishcooker> match bekks lotuspsychje
[19:53] <bekks> fishcooker: Only of the iso, or of the cd/dvd after burning it?
[19:53] <fishcooker> yesss
[19:53] <ForSpareParts> I'm sharing my laptop's wireless connection with a Raspberry Pi over ethernet, using the standard GUI networking tools. Is there a way to see what IP address the Pi was assigned so that I can SSH to it?
[19:53] <fishcooker> how do i know the log installation here?
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: what medium are you using? usb or dvd?
[19:53] <fishcooker> usb
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: maybe this can help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16757262/ubuntu-server-12-04-usb-installation-fails
[19:57] <fishcooker> ok thanks lotuspsychje..
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: did you download the iso from official server?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> ForSpareParts. if config will show router/modem IP , then type the IP in a browser to access the modem and find the device IPs listed there
[19:58] <BluesKaj> err ifconfig
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate :p
[19:58] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje. hi
[19:58] <ForSpareParts> BluesKaj, I can't access my router, unfortunately, since I'm on a university wireless network.
[19:59] <zerooneone> Beldar: i don't PPA is what I want. I just want to compile a ruby1.9.3 with --enable-shared and make a package out of it. i can support it myself
[20:00] <ForSpareParts> Somebody on the #raspberrypi channel helped me out, so I've got it now.
[20:01] <BluesKaj> ForSpareParts. run ifconfig on both computers and look for the net addr on each one
[20:02] <trism> zerooneone: ruby1.9.1 is the correct source name, they just stopped renaming the source package with each version, though they should have stopped with 1.9 instead
[20:02] <BluesKaj> ForSpareParts. inet add , rather
[20:02] <ForSpareParts> BluesKaj, Also can't do that, because I don't have a monitor or keyboard to hook up to the Pi. Somebody else on the #raspberrypi channel helped me out, though, so I've got it.
[20:02] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:02] <ForSpareParts> BluesKaj, They had a solution involving fping
[20:03] <trism> zerooneone: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby1.9.1 is actually 1.9.3 on every version except 10.04
[20:03] <abcd123> how to get list of groups that I am in from /etc/groups? cat /etc/group | grep user getse beginning? adm:x:4:username from  but what do I need to type if I want only adm par from th
[20:04] <abcd123> typo...
[20:04] <BluesKaj> ForSpareParts. ok < i'll check that out
[20:04] <trism> abcd123: groups
[20:04] <lecoeus> abcd123: can't you type groups?
[20:04] <abcd123> how to get list of groups that I am in from /etc/groups? cat /etc/group | grep user gets adm:x:4:username from  but what do I need to type if I want only adm par from the beginning? *
[20:05] <abcd123> my task was to get it from that file.
[20:05] <zerooneone> trism: that's retarded thanks for pointing it out
[20:05] <lecoeus> abcd123: you can parse :-delimited values with the command cut
[20:05] <manlin> abcd123: just 'groups' command will do
[20:06] <abcd123> how do I use cut for that purpose?
[20:06] <BobSwinkels> I have installed netbeans, the instalation is an sh file. But i cant see it in the list of my installed applications. Do i have to browse to the directory when i want to start netbeans every time or is there an easier way???
[20:07] <reisio> abcd123: with cut you specify a delimiter and a field that you want, man cut
[20:07] <lecoeus> abcd123: cut -d ':' -f 1
[20:07] <reisio> or lecoeus could just blurt it out :p
[20:07] <lecoeus> reisio: i hate to leave people in suspense :)
[20:08] <TheHustle> Hello, I have an external usb enclosure that windows 7 won't accept it, if I switch to ubuntu, will ubuntu accept it?
[20:08] <bekks> BobSwinkels: you have to create a menu shortcut.
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: in what format is your hd
[20:08] <bekks> TheHustle: we dont know. It may be broken.
[20:08] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje: it's ide
[20:08] <reisio> I like to see if they have a care to learn anything at all on their own :p and then if they're too desperate tell them :p
[20:08] <abcd123> tnx
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: fat32 ntfs?
[20:09] <geirha> abcd123: Is this homework since you have to do it backwards?
[20:09] <lecoeus> you are probably right
[20:09] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje: it's a dvd drive inside
[20:09] <abcd123> yes, we have to study uxix commands.
[20:09] <BobSwinkels> bekks: How can i create a menu shortcut
[20:09] <abcd123> I am new to grep and cut
[20:09] <abcd123> rest of commands I know from earlier times
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: an external usb enclosure with dvd-writer?no hd?
[20:10] <fishcooker> yes from official mirror and check it on the hash, lotuspsychje.. im installing the 12.04.3-server-amd64
[20:10] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: Most hardware like taht works fine in Linux.
[20:10] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, that's correct
[20:10] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: Windows sometimes needs drivers for it, but it's possible something has failed.
[20:10] <abcd123> but I havent had need for these before so I needed little hint on these
[20:10] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: We don't know what you mean that "windows 7 won't accept it".
[20:10] <geirha> abcd123: Then keep in mind that grep and cut are standard commands, but the commands you find on common linux systems, generally have a lot more features than the standard unix tools
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: ok mate, maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might also know your issue?
[20:11] <geirha> abcd123: so whatever you learn about grep and cut in Ubuntu may not work on unix systems
[20:11] <TheHustle> jhutchins_wk, windows shows the enclosure in device manager for about 5-6 seconds then disconnects
[20:11] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: Only way to know for sure is to try.
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: join the ##hardware channel for device problems, they might wanna help you further
[20:12] <TheHustle> jhutchins_wk, will ubuntu automatically detect it?
[20:12] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, thank you
[20:12] <Beldar> fishcooker, There is a net install you might try.
[20:12] <abcd123> in OS course we have both win 8 and ubuntu. I hate win 8 for it is difficult lol. Ubuntu is much easier -  all I need to do is enter the command and I dont even have to know from where I can do it using GUI :)
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: Like I said: try it.
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: Linux usually does just fine with USB external drives, but they're all different.
[20:12] <TheHustle> jhutchins_wk, ok, thank you
[20:13] <BobSwinkels> TheHustle: I think ubuntu won't
[20:13] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: I used to have to keep three different drives to boot various hardware I worked with.  They all detected the drive when running, but some would only boot to a particular drive and not others.
[20:13] <jhutchins_wk> TheHustle: Ignore BobSwinkels
[20:13] <BobSwinkels> TheHustle: There is first an easy windows 7 fix which you should try
[20:14] <cer> hi everybody .... is there a way to visualise package information, after installation, using command line?
[20:14] <reisio> cer: dpkg -L  package
[20:14] <BobSwinkels> TheHustle: Wait a moment i am schearching for the folder
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> BobSwinkels: plz no windows support here
[20:14] <zerooneone> i feel dirty now BobSwinkels
[20:15] <geirha> abcd123: so it's covering windows and linux, not unix
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> cer: what you mean visualize?
[20:15] <cer> reisio: not really, that visualises package content not package information (like description)
[20:15] <anonymous> hello
[20:15] <abcd123> are they different?
[20:15] <cer> lotuspsychje: come on, show on the standard output
[20:16] <BobSwinkels> TheHustle: Go to start and type devmgmt.msc in the search box
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> BobSwinkels: dont support windows issues here
[20:16] <zerooneone> cer: do you want blinking text and stuff like that?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> BobSwinkels: there is a ##windows channel for that
[20:16] <BobSwinkels> TheHustle: Go there to your usb and with right mouse click on uninstall
[20:16] <cer> zerooneone: what?
[20:16] <Guest33014> Russia -__-
[20:17] <geirha> abcd123: yes they are different in many aspects, yet very similar
[20:17] <BobSwinkels> TheHustle: Then reboot your PC
[20:17] <BobSwinkels> Sorry Guys
[20:17] <cer> zerooneone: just package description, architecture and so on would be goog
[20:17] <Guest33014> ?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !ru | Guest33014
[20:17] <BluesKaj> !ru | Guest33014
[20:18] <tozen> Guest33014: voprosy?
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> !pl
[20:18] <reisio> cer: apt-cache search / aptitude search
[20:19] <jhutchins_wk> Er, that wasn't it either.
[20:20] <Guest33014> Ne rabotaet russia
[20:20] <Guest33014> tolko english
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> !english | Guest33014
[20:21] <cer> reisio: oh finally found .... apt-cache show or dpkg -p
[20:21] <reisio> cer: gj
[20:21] <cer> reisio: thanks for your help!
[20:23] <T4b> I've forgotten which port the CUPS administration web interface runs on. Now I'm sure I would find out which port it runs on if I consulted documentation. But I wonder how I would go about finding it out without docs. There is some tool which can scan all ports and tell me what is running on which one, isn't there?
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> !cups | T4b
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> T4b: nmap portscan might help you aswell
[20:24] <T4b> lotuspsychje: Not my question.
[20:24] <T4b> yes, that /was/ my question
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> T4b: netstat
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> T4b: Also nmap/
[20:25] <T4b> I'm pretty sure what I had in mind was nmap. Thanks!
[20:25] <darkelfjuggalo1> I did a Fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 into an Acer Aspire 5534. Everything is working well. until I have attempted to load a Flash based game on Facebook. This game pops up the ususal Adobe message to allow the game to store information to my device... the buttons will not respond to allow or deny... I've used other devices in 13.04 and 13.10 that have not had this problem... is anyone else here familiar with this situation in their own experien
[20:25] <Anuska> this kernel have  Quote support?
[20:25] <Anuska> this kernel have  Quota support?
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> I'm surprized that cups never made into /etc/services.
[20:25] <geirha> T4b: or lsof
[20:26] <smoores> how can i manage a set of ssh connections?
[20:26] <smoores> looking for something like putty
[20:27] <zykotick9> smoores: fyi putty is in ubuntu repos
[20:27] <zykotick9> !info putty
[20:27] <Anuska> wow
[20:27] <smoores> welp
[20:27] <Anuska> why not use terminal+ssh?
[20:27] <geirha> jhutchins_wk: getent services ipp
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo1: what flash version did you install?
[20:27] <smoores> Anuska, dont want to remember all the connections i have?
[20:27] <Anuska> aham
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo1: did you try google-chrome if it has same issue?
[20:29] <Anuska> !info grpquota
[20:29] <Anuska> !info usrquota
[20:29] <xangua> darkelfjuggalo1: yes, don't remember if it's a bug or adobe or compiz but you can install flashplugin-adobe package from the Partner repository with installs a gtk configuration tool to manage flash plugins permissions
[20:29] <darkelfjuggalo1> lotuspsycheje The latest available.. 11, and I have attempted to install Chrome and it fails to bring up the Authentication to proceed with it... I attemtped in Opera and Firefox with the same issue
[20:29] <lapion> is there any way to save a list of all installs on a system ?
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | lapion
[20:30] <Beldar> lapion, List or clones?
[20:30] <darkelfjuggalo1> xangua, can you give me a Pastebin with the step by step
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo1: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[20:30] <xangua> darkelfjuggalo1: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-adobe
[20:30] <Beldar> lapion, What is your definition of a list is what I mean.
[20:32] <lapion> lik in synaptic you can save a list of markings so you can install them on another system as well.. however it doesn't save all the markings only the freshly set markings before installing them
[20:32] <xangua> darkelfjuggalo1: sorry, the package name is adobe-flashplugin
[20:33] <Anuska> !info quota
[20:34] <nkosi> leave
[20:34] <zykotick9> lapion: for a pure list see "dpkg -l".  if you want to be able "clone" a system see "/msg ubottu clone" for an app that does it.
[20:34] <nkosi> exit
[20:34] <vanishing> nkosi: /quit
[20:34] <balazs> Has anyone successfully compiled a driver for a 300MBS Medialink USB wireless adapter
[20:34] <balazs> ?
[20:34] <darkelfjuggalo1> pakage adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package
[20:34] <Beldar> lapion, use nicks here you can tab complete them.  use this for a package list, can be run in a terminal or synaptic on a install.  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[20:35] <jhutchins_wk> darkelfjuggalo1: Perhaps you need to enable universe?  I'm not sure which repo it's in.
[20:35] <reisio> lapion: aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic'
[20:35] <Beldar> lapion, That is the save command the reinstall is another in the cli.
[20:35] <xangua> !partner | you might need to enable the repository darkelfjuggalo1 and then run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[20:35] <vanishing> probably partner
[20:36] <jhutchins_wk> Anuska: putty gives you a GUI that manages and rembers connections.
[20:36] <jhutchins_wk> Anuska: That way you don't have to put them all in .ssh/config and remember their nicknames.
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> Anuska: Since it's 1:1 with putty for Windows it makes for an easy transition.
[20:37] <lapion> Beldar, zykotick9 reisio lotuspsychje thank you.
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> !flash
[20:38] <estudiante> dshj
[20:39] <estudiante> mas
[20:39] <Beldar> lapion, Good luck, package lits do make installs go fast.
[20:39] <estudiante> q
[20:39] <Beldar> lists*
[20:39] <estudiante> m
[20:41] <Rory> In the Lynx web browser running in screen, when I resize the terminal is there a way to force the text to re-flow? Ctrl-L doesn't work
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> Rory: i use links2 maybe works there?
[20:42] <Rory> lotuspsychje: I don't know anything about text-based web browsers, I just used lynx because it was the only one I've ever used - I'll try that
[20:42] <reisio> Rory: just works over here
[20:42] <geirha> Rory: -nonrestarting_sigwinch
[20:43] <reisio> Rory: are you using -x or something?
[20:43] <Rory> reisio: As a flag to what?
[20:43] <reisio> screen
[20:43] <Rory> reisio: No. Myenvironment is terminator -> ssh -> screen -> lynx
[20:43] <reisio> could also be related to the particular website
[20:43] <Rory> lotuspsychje: Does it re-flow if you fiddle with window splitting in screen?
[20:43] <darkelfjuggalo1> Installed and updated all of that, the buttons still will not respond
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> Rory: terminator holds 4 screens split and stuff right
[20:44] <reisio> Rory: oh it's because you ssh'd
[20:44] <Rory> lotuspsychje: n-split terminals actually, but that's not relevant here. Trying links2 now
[20:44] <darkelfjuggalo1> lotuspsycheje what is the universe you were talking about?
[20:44] <piera> ciao
[20:45] <piera> !list
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> !it | piera
[20:45] <Rory> reisio: Oh? Will this affect anything like this? usually a ctrl-L is enough to sort out weird formatting from resizing
[20:45] <reisio> Rory: I'm assuming the cols/rows are read by ssh and assumed for the duration
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | darkelfjuggalo1
[20:45] <reisio> probably lots of ways around it, though
[20:46] <darkelfjuggalo1> ok i did that also
[20:46] <Rory> links2 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/18/bofh_2011_episode_3/
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo1: did you install flash from web or software centre?
[20:46] <darkelfjuggalo1> Web?
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo1: from adobe website
[20:47] <darkelfjuggalo1> yes... is that a problem?
[20:47] <Rory> (oops - ctrl-A tab!) lotuspsychje links2 is working, and is nicer anyway, thanks a lot :)
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> darkelfjuggalo1: you can try flashplugin-installer maybe
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> !info flashplugin-installer | darkelfjuggalo1
[20:47] <Anuska> question about partion on  ubuntu
[20:47] <Anuska> is oky if i do 4 partiton?
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> Rory: np mate
[20:48] <Anuska> 1) / , 2) swap  3) /boot , 4) /home ?
[20:48] <Rory> Anuska: Yes that will work
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> !partition | Anuska
[20:48] <xangua> darkelfjuggalo1: like I said, adobe-flashplugin will Also install a GTK aplication to manage flashplugin permissions, search for 'FLash' in the dash
[20:48] <vanishing> Anuska: don't see why you can't
[20:49] <Anuska> !GParted
[20:49] <jc_> how would i go about finishing a netflix installation? netlix seemed to have finished downloading, it noticed that i didnt have grub wine installed so i clicked ok to download it and then my power went out. i went to click on netflix and nothing happens. how do i fix this?
[20:49] <darkelfjuggalo1> xangua the problem isn't that there are permissions it is that i cant allow permissions
[20:49] <Rory> Anuska: You don't *need* to use gparted, you can just set them up during the installation of Ubuntu
[20:50] <vanishing> jc_: there is no netflix support in linux..only through wine
[20:50] <xangua> darkelfjuggalo1: you can manage the permissions in the GTK aplication like i said, again
[20:50] <Anuska> i will try , thanks
[20:50] <jc_> yes i know. how do i finish it?
[20:51] <vanishing> jc_: by netflix i think you are saying silverlight, you can look up pipelight
[20:51] <jc_> so im just guessing no one has ever had this problem
[20:51] <darkelfjuggalo1> i did as you instructed and all the search comes up with is the tarball from adobe.com and the downloads folder where the tarball is saved
[20:52] <vanishing> jc_: look up pipelight
[20:52] <vanishing> webupd8 should have a blog about it, containing instructions of how to get it up and running
[20:54] <Beldar> Anuska, This an empty HD?
[20:54] <abradley> initially, when I installed ubuntu server I chose "do not install updates" because it was going to be a sandbox. Now it has evolved into a production machine and I'd like to have it install security updates automatically. Where would I go to change this settings?
[20:54] <Anuska> yes
[20:54] <Anuska> i test in VM
[20:55] <Anuska> i want to configure & partiton perfect in future the linux
[20:55] <Anuska> and i want to use quota / etc this stuff
[20:55] <Anuska> :)
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> abradley: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help you also
[20:56] <Beldar> Anuska, And your aware of the differences of primary partitions and an extended containing logical partitions and the limitations in these?
[20:56] <Anuska> yes
[20:56] <xangua> darkelfjuggalo1: Just installed adoble-flashplugin and it's there http://i.imgur.com/uvPnw6c.png http://i.imgur.com/tLnG5Yd.png
[20:56] <Beldar> Anuska, cool.
[20:56] <Anuska> i go a course of linux
[20:56] <Anuska> and i do test on ubuntu
[20:57] <Anuska> at home & at school :) all used ubuntu
[20:57] <Beldar> Anuska, Just wanted to make sure as you mentioned 4 partitions is all.
[20:58] <Anuska> yes :)
[20:58] <Beldar> no type of partitions was discussed
[20:58] <Anuska> 1) 83 , 2) 82  , 3) 83 , 4) swap
[20:58] <fishcooker1> lotuspsychje: it seems that 12.04.3 surpass the previous one.. progressing on 50% right now.. Beldar: where is the net install iso.. i can't see it on ubuntu release.
[20:59] <Anuska> 83 is / and /home
[20:59] <ginsun> I have a script with the permissions: -rwSr-Sr-x  <--- does the S mean that setuid 0 has been applied to it?
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> !permissions | ginsun
[21:00] <Bolded> hello
[21:00] <ginsun> lotuspsychje, thanks, I'll have a look!
[21:00] <Bolded> Hi i am trying to install ubuntu on my dedicated server via IPMI and it seems like its stuck on this for 30 mins http://gyazo.com/8dc37f9bee7731384868100140b6402a
[21:01] <Bolded> is that ok ?
[21:01] <Anuska> Acl is someting like quota or is only for permission file/folder/acces?
[21:01] <ginsun> lotuspsychje, no word about the 'S' though :-(
[21:01] <Beldar> fishcooker1, The advantage of a net install is you get what is in the repos up to date, no updates after the install. However it is a text install.  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: doesnt look like an error to me
[21:02] <geirha> Anuska: Access Control Lists. It gives you more finegrained permissions
[21:02] <Bolded> lotuspsychje:  ok thanks i have mounted the iso via my desktop and hte install is super slow
[21:02] <Bolded> however i can mount a url and i tried to use the ubuntu link but it didnt work
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: but never installed ubuntu server before, not sure if it takes longer to install
[21:02] <Bolded> any other methods
[21:02] <Bolded> sorry its desktop
[21:02] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: oh ok
[21:03] <Beldar> fishcooker1, server is probably a text install as well, never done it myself, the net has a lot of options including multiple server ops and desktops as well.
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: version and architecture?
[21:04] <darkelfjuggalo1> xangua http://oi41.tinypic.com/1zp47jr.jpg
[21:06] <Bolded> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64
[21:06] <xangua> darkelfjuggalo1: perhaps adobe-flashplugin  missed to install adobe-flash-properties-gtk ?
[21:06] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: is your machine rather new hardware?
[21:07] <Bolded> lotuspsychje:  CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1240 3.30Ghz + IPMI   RAM: 24GB  Hard drive(s): 2x 2TB HW RAID
[21:07] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: should go fast then :p, well wait a little longer if still freeze try install again
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: usb or dvd install?
[21:08] <dannymichel> Can someone give me ONE good reason Ubuntu disabled the system tray?
[21:08] <geekmasterflash> I have a very strange problem. When I boot up, my USB devices all deactivate when GDM initiates. If I log in, they come back on after about 10 minutes, but otherwise they stay off. This can be a hiuge pain in the rear, since my keyboard and mouse are USB (i have since connected my keyboard to a usb/ps2 converter to at least be able to sign in) Anyone know what the issue is, or how I might go about fixing it?
[21:08] <Bolded> lotuspsychje:  the server is located in france and im in canada ive mounted the iso via my desktop to the IPMI management lol
[21:09] <Bolded> but good stuff its configuring boot laoder now :)
[21:09] <Bolded> my upload is slow so i think thats the reason
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Bolded
[21:09] <geekmasterflash> dannymichel: There has been some horrible memory leak issues on 13.10 dealing with the tray and panels
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> dannymichel: you mean time in 13.10?
[21:09] <Bolded> it was pretty hard i was hoping to use a iso hosted to install but it failed miserably only option was to mount from home and upp it slowly lol
[21:10] <dannymichel> i thought they did in 12.04 too, but yes, in 13.10 lotuspsychje
[21:10] <darkelfjuggalo1> how do i go in and set specific permissions manually?
[21:10] <Bolded> but now its running grub install
[21:10] <dannymichel> i dont understand what you're implying or trying to say geekmasterflash
[21:10] <lotuspsychje> geekmasterflash: did you set bios to boot usb keyboard and mouse?
[21:10] <fishcooker1> i want to encrypt my home folder, but if something going wrong(in case i can't login) will it readible ?
[21:11] <reisio> fishcooker1: as long as you remember the passphrase
[21:11] <dannymichel> What is the reason Ubuntu has disabled all apps in the system tray and forces EVEERYONE to hack it just to get it back. What is ONE good reason why they did that?
[21:11] <reisio> dannymichel: that's probably GNOME's doing
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker1: you should also not forget your username and password on ubuntu
[21:11] <darkelfjuggalo1> nvm, i found how to, but the specific one giving me all the problems is listed to allow, but the allow dialogue will not go away[i have reloaded it a few times]
[21:11] <reisio> dannymichel: they probably did it to be more like Mac OS, which is ever GNOME's motivation
[21:11] <geekmasterflash> dannymichel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1199877
[21:12] <reisio> dannymichel: if you don't like Mac OS, try Xfce (also if you do, Xfce is flexible that way)
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> dannymichel: dont shoot us okay :p
[21:12] <dannymichel> system tray is enabled in Mac OS X reisio . OS X is my main.
[21:12] <JoshuaP> Sooo.. I seem to have sound drivers active, though i have no indicators and no volume.
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> !sound | JoshuaP
[21:13] <dannymichel> you're saying they didnt intentionally disable the tray geekmasterflash ? its a bug?
[21:13] <zykotick9> JoshuaP: did you remove Pulse from your system?
[21:13] <JoshuaP> zykotick9: yes.
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> dannymichel: It's possible it's part of the bug, or that it's been disabled as means to fix the leak.
[21:14] <Beldar> dannymichel, I heard it was to irritate you. ;)
[21:14] <zykotick9> JoshuaP: that's normal/expected then!
[21:14] <JoshuaP> zykotick9: in an attempt to get IDJC, jackd, and alsa to function properly
[21:14] <JoshuaP> BUT
[21:14] <JoshuaP> i re-installed it
[21:14] <JoshuaP> zykotick9: i re-installed pulse and rebooted, still nothing.
[21:14] <ppokuyh> hi
[21:14] <reisio> hi
[21:14] <zykotick9> JoshuaP: good luck...
[21:14] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, ubuntu is now installed, what's happening now is, when i insert a disk into the external drive, the disk spins up then spins down then spins up and spins down then ticks
[21:15] <ppokuyh> how to set up a server from Ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[21:15] <JoshuaP> So.. two thousand people in a channel, and not one of them can fix the sound?
[21:15] <guzzlefry> hey folk
[21:16] <reisio> heyo
[21:16] <dannymichel> Completely ridiculous http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/raring-retires-system-tray-whitelist
[21:16] <guzzlefry> What should permissions for my SSL certificate be? I tried read-only with root but that doesn't seem to work.
[21:16] <reisio> JoshuaP: fixed
[21:16] <JoshuaP> reisio: ?
[21:16] <guzzlefry> oh wait, ignore me, trying something first. :P
[21:17] <darkelfjuggalo1> I have restarted the device in question and the problem persists despite there should not be a problem...as long as the Adobe Flash Player Settings Dialogue is up, i cannot do anythin inside the game itself.
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: any errors in /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[21:17] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, ill have a look
[21:18] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, would the usb device of been automatically detected?
[21:18] <TheHustle> if so, how could i tell?
[21:18] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: you are aware that /var/log/syslog is the current one right?
[21:19] <ppokuyh> how to set up a server from ubuntu desktop?
[21:19]  * JoshuaP sighs at the little hope
[21:19] <reisio> ppokuyh: install apache
[21:19] <JoshuaP> ppokuyh: install lamp
[21:19] <topper4125> LAMP Stack
[21:19] <zykotick9> !lamp
[21:20] <ppokuyh> k, thx guys, Ill install lamp or apache lol, what is the best?
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: seems like it shows syslog now yes, but had syslog.1 in the past also
[21:20] <derfus> lamp includes an apache server
[21:20] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: syslog.1 systlog.2.gz are teh OLD logs...
[21:21] <ikonia> ppokuyh: perhaps doing a little bit of basic research would benifit you
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: okay tnx
[21:21] <Anuska> i like ubuntu, becouse have a lot of documentation
[21:21] <reisio> ppokuyh: if you need a web server, install a web server
[21:21] <Anuska> question: on gnome the flash on firefox is stable or crashed?
[21:21] <reisio> ppokuyh: if you need something else, install that
[21:21] <ppokuyh> ikonia, I did, ppl said that I need to install Samba
[21:21] <ikonia> ppokuyh: then why are you talking about "lamp" and "apache"
[21:22] <derfus> node.js imo is simpler and funner than apache and php
[21:22] <ikonia> not if you want to run php applications
[21:22] <topper4125> are you wanting a file server or a website?
[21:22] <ppokuyh> ikonia, people were suggesting to install it
[21:22] <ppokuyh> file server
[21:22] <ikonia> ppokuyh: what do you want to actually "do"
[21:22] <perro81> hi a have a problem wen install office 2010 with wine i realy install frameworck 2.0
[21:22] <topper4125> for file server samba would be the 'thing to use'
[21:22] <ikonia> ppokuyh: ok, so forget "lamp" - you just want to share files over a network, correct ?
[21:23] <ppokuyh> ikonia, I want to sync files between my main computer and my smartphone when I need
[21:23] <zykotick9> perro81: ask in #winehq
[21:23] <ikonia> ppokuyh: syncing files is a different thing to "sharing file systems"
[21:23] <ikonia> ppokuyh: how/if your phone can sync files will depend on your phones OS, it's applications available to it and it's linux support
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> perro81: you have an issue on libreoffice?
[21:23] <Anuska> question: /boot / home need to be LVM?
[21:23] <topper4125> !ubuntu-one | ppokuyh
[21:23] <Bolded> lotuspsychje:  thank you for oyur help :)
[21:23] <Anuska> !lvm
[21:23] <lotuspsychje> Bolded: np mate
[21:24] <perro81> no libreoffice is ok
[21:24] <ppokuyh> ikonia thx for all the answers, in fact I need a server, not a cloud service, I want to to create contact from Owncloud
[21:24] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, i ran "sudo lshw -short" and it's detected :D
[21:24] <ikonia> ppokuyh: that doesn't change what I said to you
[21:24] <TheHustle> only issue i have now is the disk spins up and spins down,
[21:25] <ppokuyh> ikonia, I heard of Caldav to sync
[21:25] <th0r> Ppokuyh: use samba on the computer and SyncMe on the phone (unless it is iOS)
[21:25] <ikonia> ppokuyh: that doesn't change what I said
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: does it show in /media?
[21:25] <ikonia> ppokuyh: re-read what I said, and look into that
[21:26] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, ill go have a check, but it displays under "sudo lshw -short" as "storage"
[21:26] <Madwill> is there a way to know the "max opened files" of a certain process
[21:26] <Madwill> I know there is a way using PID this information is somewhere maybe in proc
[21:26] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: you dont have an usb hub in between laptop and external dvd right?
[21:26] <ppokuyh> ikonia about web-server?
[21:27] <Madwill> i'd just like to make sure the ulimit is correctly set while being called by startup script of a certain app
[21:27] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, no, i'm using my pc at the moment
[21:27] <ikonia> ppokuyh: no
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: i mean its connected directly to pc?
[21:27] <ppokuyh> ikonia I got Android's phone
[21:27] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, directly to the motherboard yes
[21:27] <TheHustle> at the back of the pc
[21:27] <ikonia> ppokuyh: there are many types of android phone and versions, do the rsearch I suggested
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: you sure they are usb 2.0?
[21:28] <ppokuyh> ikonia, yes I got Owncloud and Cardav
[21:28] <ppokuyh> ikonia to sync between a server and my phone
[21:28] <TheHustle> yes, it's a modern motherboard as it only has sata ports on the board, no ide
[21:28] <TheHustle> purchased it from ebuyer
[21:28] <ikonia> ppokuyh: have you checked if your phone has applications to allow that to work
[21:29] <ppokuyh> ikonia, to sync, that's okay
[21:29] <ikonia> ppokuyh: have you checked if your phone has applications to allow that to work
[21:29] <ppokuyh> ikonia, yes caldav and owncloud
[21:30] <fishcooker1> as long as i remember the passphrase and username i will unlock the encryption folder, btw how to input the passphrase automatically(eg: i want to echo a file to input the passphrase) in case i want this box start and after automatically login and decrypt the home folder
[21:30] <ikonia> ppokuyh: so if that works why are you asking "what should I use", you know the answer
[21:30] <darkelfjuggalo1> Does anyone else have suggestions? I have installed adobe-flashplugin, flashplugin-installer, the adobe flash gtk program, I have checked permissions, I have restarted device[Acer Aspire 5534 AD Anthalon 64], i have i have cleared available permissions and manually input them in as the program requesting the permission specifies, and I still get the Adobe Flash settings dialogue asking for permission, but i cannot click the button to either acce
[21:30] <ppokuyh> th0r, hi how to use Samba?
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: what happens if you put a dvd movie in?
[21:30] <ikonia> ppokuyh: why are you looking at samba
[21:30] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, ill go test it, brb
[21:30] <ikonia> ppokuyh: that has nothing to do with the applications you've just said you want to use
[21:31] <ppokuyh> ikonia, someone suggested to install Samba and an apps to sync
[21:31] <ikonia> ppokuyh: but that's not what you are doing - you've told me what you are doing with owncloud
[21:31] <ikonia> ppokuyh: so why are you looking at samba, when you know what you are doing
[21:31] <ppokuyh> ikonia, I did consider the suggestion of Thor
[21:32] <ikonia> ppokuyh: does your phone network mounting of file systems ?
[21:32] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: Hey, when it comes to flashsettings, they rarely work "in browser" to accept or decline. Typically, you need to go to the flash manager website to get settings right
[21:32] <ikonia> ppokuyh: does your phone support directory syncronization of network file systems ?
[21:32] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager04.html
[21:32] <ppokuyh> ikonia, with Es file manager yes
[21:32] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, /media is empty, dvd does the same, spins up and down and up and down
[21:33] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: There you can enter trusted sites to allow them access to mic and camera, or save files
[21:33] <darkelfjuggalo1> ok thank you
[21:33] <ikonia> ppokuyh: ok, so in that case you can use samba to setup a shared file system, mount it on your phone and setup (from your phone - not samba) directory syncrionzation
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: try to install vlc player, if that doesnt play your movie, device might be broken..check syslog also for errors on dvd
[21:34] <ppokuyh> ikonia, thx for your help, I appreciate, how to use Samba?
[21:34] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, how do i open /var/log/syslog?
[21:34] <ikonia> ppokuyh: do the basic research it's not a 1 line response, it's reasonable complex to setup properly
[21:34] <tokam> today I upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 and I experience that using gnome-session-fallback, the length of the tastbars does not scale up to the monitor length, as it did on ubuntu 13.04.
[21:34] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: the logviewer icon
[21:34] <ppokuyh> ikonia, k I'll look into thtat
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: or gedit
[21:36] <ALXTorresC> de que estamos hablando?
[21:37] <vohe> Someone knows about ubuntu applications? I search an application for archiving notes sheets.
[21:37] <reisio> ALXTorresC: #ubuntu-es
[21:38] <ALXTorresC> mmm
[21:38] <zykotick9> vohe: "archiving notes sheets" can you re-word that perhaps?
[21:38] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[21:38] <ISOcrates> Guys, I'm trying to install 13.10 x64 onto my server but this is what I'm getting everytime.  Trying to install on RAID10, which is set up  via hardware: http://tinyurl.com/lcpg8e4 - Any help would be much appreciated
[21:39] <darkelfjuggalo1> geekmasterflash ; i can't see how to manually add a websiter
[21:39] <Beldar> vohe, Never seen a specific app for archiving personal notes.
[21:39] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: See that drop down on the link that says "Edit Locations"
[21:39] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  In Firefox, no youtube videos will load.  it's just a white rectangle where the player should be.
[21:39] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: One of the options there is "Add location"
[21:40] <Jordan_U> ISOcrates: 1: Did you run the CD integrity check at boot? 2: Why aren't you using the Server install image?
[21:40] <vohe> Zykotick9: notes for a choir needs to store, sort, and find in a database
[21:40] <darkelfjuggalo1> no i do not see it
[21:40] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: on the link I sent, does the settings manager display?
[21:40] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: If not, you don't have flash properly installed.
[21:41] <JoshuaP> How to i get the volume applet back?
[21:41] <Beldar> JoshuaP, what desktop, and did you remove it somehow?
[21:41] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: If so, you should see a page that says "always ask" "always allow" "always deny" radio buttons
[21:41] <darkelfjuggalo1> a flash embed object that looks similar to the dialogue pops up
[21:41] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: In that screen, bottom right just above the input text field is a drop down
[21:42] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, device offlined - not ready after error recovery, is the last message in the error log
[21:42] <joseph__> hey guys sorry to interrupt but, how do i launch applications from the terminal
[21:42] <ISOcrates> Jordan_U: I did not do that, I will now. I like having the option to VNC in to do stuff on the desktop from time to time
[21:42] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: That says "Edit locations..."
[21:42] <zykotick9> vohe: are we talking music-notes, or just text notes?  if it's text, check out Tomboy (or Gnote the non-mono-contaiminated fork)
[21:42] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: Select it, and choose the option "Add location"
[21:42] <zykotick9> !tab > vohe
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1364543
[21:42] <derfus> joseph__: you type the name of the app and press enter
[21:42] <darkelfjuggalo1> i found it, the wrong tab loaded
[21:42] <joseph__> thank you
[21:42] <JoshuaP> Beldar: it went away after i uninstalled pulseaudio, then i re-installed it, and now it is gone
[21:43] <derfus> yw
[21:43] <Iulia> hello everyone!  Please, can anyone recommend me a good and easy software similar to openbravo or gnucash but easier ? Many thanks
[21:43] <Beldar> JoshuaP, Have you logged out and back in or rebooted to see if it shows?
[21:43] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, oh no, so the enclosure doesn't work in ubuntu :(
[21:43] <vohe> sorry i got disconnect..
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> TheHustle: not sure, never tryed such device yet
[21:44] <bekks> Iulia: kmymoney2
[21:44] <geekmasterflash> Iulia: Openbravo is generally the easiest one I know about. If those are too hard to figure, maybe you can try to install Quickbooks via Wine?
[21:44] <vohe> who send me a pm?
[21:44] <Iulia> Openbravo seems to be nice and good but I don't want vmware
[21:44] <zykotick9> vohe: i sent !tab from ubottu to you via-PM?
[21:44] <Iulia> It¡s possible to install without it?
[21:45] <zykotick9> !tab > vohe
[21:45] <geekmasterflash> Iulia: Quickbooks 6.0 is platinum capatablility with Wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=868
[21:45] <Iulia> thanks
[21:46] <darkelfjuggalo1> i swear i hate these games my dad plays... they suck on gameplay, story line and resource [the whole computer should not freeze for 5 minutes loading one game page]
[21:46] <Boneheads1999> Is there a chance flash isn't working for me because my video drivers are too old?
[21:46] <vohe> zykotick9: sry, i used a irc client on an android (without Tab Key)
[21:46] <zykotick9> vohe: ahhh.
[21:47] <ikonia> Boneheads1999: flash is just massivly limiting on linux
[21:47] <Boneheads1999> or graphics card or whatever
[21:47] <ikonia> Boneheads1999: it's support has stopped and as applications move forward using newer versions of the plugin, less works
[21:47] <Boneheads1999> ikonia: then is there some sort of youtube app or something for ubuntu?
[21:47] <lonewulf85>  anyone know the command to remove a print job in ubuntu 12.04?
[21:47] <ikonia> Boneheads1999: no,
[21:47] <kandinski> what cli tool for pastebins do you recommend?
[21:47] <ikonia> Boneheads1999: there is the html5 version of youtube, but that only supports videos encoding in a specific way
[21:48] <zykotick9> !pastebinit | kandinski
[21:48] <kandinski> preferably one that doesn't use pastebin.com, but a less sucky one?
[21:48] <kandinski> zykotick9: thanks a lot
[21:48] <zykotick9> kandinski: pastebinit can be configured to use paste.ubuntu.org and others.
[21:48] <Boneheads1999> ikonia: have any idea if there's a flash alternative? (not like HTML5, but something that does everything flash would normally do)
[21:48] <ikonia> Boneheads1999: there isn't one
[21:48] <TheHustle> lotuspsychje, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782546&p=10948133#post10948133 maybe if i downgrade it'll work?
[21:48] <darkelfjuggalo1> geekmmasterflash, I added the games location with always allow through the page you game me, and it is still asking when I load the game
[21:49] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, You get 12.04 installed? Did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: there are other settings to be added
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Boneheads1999: There are a few Free flash implementations, but none of them are very complete/functional.
[21:49] <darkelfjuggalo1> oh?
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: You allowed them via security, but you also need to okay them access
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: There should be a tab for privacy
[21:49] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: I can't remember.. possibly.
[21:49] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: I'll brb
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: And another for storage
[21:50] <xangua> Boneheads1999: there is a 'youtube app': Minitube, it can play and download youtube videos
[21:50] <darkelfjuggalo1> when the computer stopps locking up
[21:50] <xangua> if that helps
[21:50] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: You're likely going to have to add the site to all of them
[21:50] <Boneheads1999> xangua: does it require flash?
[21:50] <vohe> any idea? I got a Chruch full of choir notes. And i have to manage them with a software.
[21:50] <xangua> Boneheads1999: no, it doesn't
[21:51] <JoshuaP> Beldar: yes
[21:51] <kandinski> I added a ppa but I can't update from it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6455568/
[21:51] <JoshuaP> Beldar: it still doesnt appear
[21:51] <fishcooker> i want to encyrpted  my home folder.. and i've plan to put some apps on it that will run after the user login.. is it possible?
[21:51] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: Also, send me the url so I can see what it is you're attempt to do?
[21:51] <darkelfjuggalo1> the games url?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> fishcooker: Yes.
[21:51] <matematikaadit> It's strange. A copy dialog box missing when copying a large file. And there's no indicator showing.
[21:51] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: Yes, please.
[21:51] <darkelfjuggalo1> zynga1-a.akamaihd.net
[21:52] <hydruid> kandinski: perhaps i t's not referenced as *couch* when it updates
[21:52] <matematikaadit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1010132
[21:52] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: I am getting an error page when I go there.
[21:52] <fishcooker> looks promising Jordan_U..LoL
[21:52] <kandinski> hydruid: how so? the url is listed on update
[21:52] <hydruid> kandinski: how did you add the PPA?
[21:52] <kandinski> add-apt-repository
[21:52] <darkelfjuggalo1> that game is Frontierville by Zynga
[21:52] <fishcooker> can the passphrase automatically input when the box start
[21:53] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: http://www.websitedown.info/zynga1-a.akamaihd.net
[21:53] <hydruid> kandinski: did you get any errors?
[21:53] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: Well, regardless of that the site is down
[21:53] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: So, nothing you do will work till they get it back up.
[21:53] <darkelfjuggalo1> so it's Zyngas fault this is failing, not the device?
[21:53] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: okay I typed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[21:53] <fishcooker> ubuntu of course :-) Jordan_U
[21:53] <hydruid> kandinski: I would remove it and try adding it back
[21:53] <patsToms> is there any way to get menu bar like there http://lejup.lv/f/528e80d541f5eugfstar1385070805.png
[21:54] <Jordan_U> fishcooker: The standard configuration for an encrypted home directory in Ubuntu, using ecryptfs, "unlocks" your files using your login password (so all you need to do is log in, there is no extra step).
[21:54] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: but now it's at some microsoft contract thing
[21:54] <kandinski> hydruid: did you look at my paste? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6455568/ the .list file is all right, and is in the sources.list.d directory
[21:54] <kandinski> hydruid: will do that
[21:54] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: Can't say that, but regardless if your device is not working, their site isnt
[21:54] <geekmasterflash> darkelfjuggalo1: So you can't fix it even if there was a problem
[21:54] <hydruid> kandinski: that is strange, usually there is at least an error
[21:54] <fishcooker> thanks Jordan_U you are a kind person LoL
[21:55] <hydruid> patsToms: that link made me hungry
[21:55] <Jordan_U> fishcooker: You're welcome.
[21:55] <patsToms> hyakuhei, haha, true
[21:56] <Danato> fishcooker: yes he is :D
[21:56] <hydruid> patsToms: are you talking about the bar at the top?
[21:56] <aokmanga> hi all
[21:56] <darkelfjuggalo1> it's Zynga i quit playing their games before this game came out becuase of crap like this... i don't see how they are still in business with such crappy business, my dad can't even complain to them about the poor quality becuase they disabled the report features for this particular game [i wish i understood why he  and my mom still play it]
[21:56] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  I'm trying to install restricted-extras, but now this popped up in terminal: http://pastebin.com/mDnpKbvk
[21:57] <aokmanga> i've a question... i've a vps with installed ubuntu server but i can use only ipv6 to connect to it... i installed apache but how can i connect to it through ipv6? is it possible?
[21:57] <xangua> patsToms: you mean transparent? you can install ubuntu-tweak, or unity-tweak if you are on saucy, to set the panel opacity
[21:57] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: You've never seen an EULA before?
[21:57] <kandinski> hydruid: this is weird indeed http://paste.ubuntu.com/6455597/
[21:57] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Press tab to select OK, then hit enter
[21:58] <patsToms> xangua, but it's not full transparent
[21:58] <hydruid> kandinski: quit grepping it to confirm it's not something else
[21:58] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, http://askubuntu.com/questions/16225/how-can-i-accept-microsoft-eula-agreement-for-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[21:58] <Boneheads1999> Beldar: I'm good.  geekmasterflash showed me
[21:58] <darkelfjuggalo1> well i have applied all of the settings as is and I will see when it comes back up
[21:59] <Beldar> Boneheads1999, Cool, carry on. ;)
[21:59] <BarackObama_MS> Hi folks.
[21:59] <xangua> patsToms: it is, I just set it (looks better with a dark background)  http://i.imgur.com/00pvZng.png
[21:59] <Beldar> BarackObama_MS, Hello Mr. President
[21:59]  * BarackObama_MS salutes.
[22:00] <hydruid> BarackObama_MS: have a few minutes from playing all that basketball to ask some Ubuntu questions?
[22:00] <Beldar> BarackObama_MS, As a representative of remulak, I like your work.
[22:00] <geekmasterflash> BarackObama_MS: How's my favorite muslim-socalist savior today?
[22:00] <patsToms> xangua, check my image again - it's full transparent there :b
[22:00] <Danato> is there a way to add a brightness bar to KDE when I change brightness with the keyboard?
[22:01] <kandinski> hydruid: but this is a list of all the urls apt-get hits (made with apt-get update): http://paste.ubuntu.com/6455627/
[22:01] <BarackObama_MS> Beldar: We use Microsoft.
[22:01] <geirha> kandinski: apt-get update will not show the name of the ppa. it'll just show http://ppa.launchpad.net
[22:01] <BarackObama_MS> Geekmasterflash: We drop bombs on em.
[22:01] <kandinski> geirha, aaah
[22:01] <xangua> patsToms: it is in mine too, if you already set the panel as you wished why are you asking then?
[22:02] <clouder`grr> i have a wusb54g v1, it connects to my router when I disable security but once I enable wpa or wpa2 it just keeps prompting me for security key. any ideas?
[22:02] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: Ugh, yeah. If you turn on security it will want the security password.
[22:02] <kandinski> hyddruid, geirha thanks, I was being tetchy tetchy
[22:02] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: You need to find out/set your WPA2 key
[22:02] <clouder`grr> i do know it
[22:02] <BarackObama_MS> My network is unsecured.
[22:03] <clouder`grr> it just keep prompting me even after entering it
[22:03] <patsToms> xangua, it's not mine screen
[22:03] <clouder`grr> it does take a little while between prompts
[22:03] <patsToms> xangua, I have like yours. I found solution on the net, but there is no solution for full transparent
[22:03] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: A little while as in, a day, or as in a few seconds?
[22:04] <ace_> \server
[22:04] <clouder`grr> about 15 seconds
[22:04] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: And in that 15 seconds, can you surf?
[22:04] <clouder`grr> I haven't tried, but I don't see the 'link' light blink at all during that time
[22:04] <xangua> patsToms: looks fully transparent to me http://i.imgur.com/zv2RGzL.png
[22:05] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: K, then you're router is rejecting your password.
[22:05] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: Might be a typo or wrong case.
[22:05] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: I recommend setting a new password, maybe all the same letter and trying to connect with it. If it takes, then you know the issue is just the password was wrong
[22:06] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: If it doesn't, then you may have some connection issue or some strange bug currently unknown
[22:06] <clouder`grr> I've checked and rechecked, I'm certain I have the pw correct. I use wpa/wpa2 before, I only disabled it to see if it would connect without security
[22:06] <patsToms> xangua, ok then
[22:06] <patsToms> xangua, give me more info, what did you do
[22:06] <xangua> (15:57:16) xangua: patsToms: you mean transparent? you can install ubuntu-tweak, or unity-tweak if you are on saucy, to set the panel opacity
[22:07] <patsToms> I will try ubuntu-twak
[22:07] <clouder`grr> I tested the adapter on a winxp laptop just to be sure it wasn't the adapter and the keys worked and connected
[22:07] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: Okay, but you haven't ruled out typoing now.
[22:08] <geirha> kandinski: Assuming it provides a package named couchdb, try  apt-cache policy couchdb
[22:08] <geekmasterflash> clouder`grr: Troubleshooting often means doing things we are sure wont work, just to eliminate them
[22:08] <kandinski> geirha, it does, thanks
[22:11] <BarackObama_MS> 127.0.0.1 is fun.
[22:11] <geekmasterflash> 127.0.0.1 sweet 127.0.0.1
[22:11] <daftykins> geekmasterflash: nah ::1
[22:12] <ivanrad> mount -o force -t hfsplus /dev/XXX /mnt/
[22:12] <ivanrad> doesnt work
[22:12] <ivanrad> anyone?
[22:12] <reisio> ivanrad: sup
[22:12] <ivanrad> need help with mounting read and write hfs+ on ubuntu ive tried everything
[22:13] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: what error does it spit up?
[22:13] <ivanrad> mount -o force -t hfsplus /dev/XXX /mnt/
[22:13] <ivanrad> let me show you
[22:13] <ikonia> ivanrad: show the exact command you used, and the exact error you get
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> ivanrad  use pastebin if it is a long error message
[22:13] <ivanrad> how do i list dev?
[22:14] <reisio> ivanrad: did you try just mount /dev/XXX /mnt ?
[22:14] <ikonia> ivanrad: just show us the exact command you are using
[22:14] <reisio> ivanrad: lsblk -f
[22:14] <ivanrad> sudo mount -o force -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /mnt/
[22:14] <ikonia> why force ?
[22:14] <root____5> hello, i just rebooted my machine and... i dont know what happend, the login screen wont show up, cant start xserver, only got shell access, no write priviliges, in my home directory is a file like "Where is your desktop" and i should use ecryptfs-mount-private to restore/access it. ecryptfs-mount-private wont work, what happened ?!
[22:15] <ivanrad> http://pastebin.com/796H1bkw
[22:15] <geekmasterflash> root____5: By any chance, did you log in as root?
[22:15] <ikonia> ivanrad: that's a different command than you one you just showed us
[22:15] <ivanrad> okay then the second 1
[22:15] <ivanrad> whatever will do this
[22:15] <ikonia> ivanrad: and as you can see it's not an error - it's already mounted
[22:15] <ivanrad> i want to mount read and write my hfs+
[22:16] <root____5> geekmasterflash: actually not, my shell/bash shows my real username
[22:16] <ivanrad> yes but i cant read and write
[22:16] <ikonia> hfs only has experimental read/write support
[22:16] <ikonia> and why -o force ?
[22:16] <Glyde> Having a few problems getting my hardware working, anyone know how to enable a second display, enable form feed for a printer, and getting a wired xbox 360 headset working?
[22:16] <ivanrad> becuase i want to force it to work?
[22:16] <geekmasterflash> root____5: Have you logged in as root before?
[22:16] <ikonia> ivanrad: that's not what -o force is for
[22:16] <ivanrad> oh okay
[22:16] <ikonia> ivanrad: knowing what the commands do before using them is critical
[22:16] <ivanrad> well here this guide doesnt work
[22:17] <ivanrad> http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os
[22:17] <ikonia> ivanrad: look at the difference in the commands you are using and the one in the that guide
[22:17] <ikonia> ivanrad: you have not followed the guide
[22:17] <root____5> geekmasterflash: you mean this session or "ever", i think for both, yes.
[22:18] <ikonia> ivanrad: but I warn you very strongly about trying to use write hfs access in linux
[22:18] <geekmasterflash> root____5: It's possible root owns something it shouldn't, as I recently has a problem with root owning Xauthority that caused a similar problem
[22:18] <ivanrad> why? the hard drive has 900 gb
[22:18] <ivanrad> i need to copy 414 gb
[22:18] <ikonia> ivanrad: the size has nothing to do with it
[22:18] <zorrohotzu> ?
[22:18] <zorrohotzu> ////
[22:18] <geekmasterflash> root____5: As for the encrypted home folder, what is the error you get when you use  ecryptfs-mount-private?
[22:18] <ivanrad> okay
[22:19] <ivanrad> so how do i change the format from hfs+ to ntfs>
[22:19] <ikonia> ivanrad: 1.) it's clear you are not paying attention to detail - this ia bad and dangerous 2.) HFS write support is experimental
[22:19] <chaotix> hi...  is there any possible way to make video results from the unity smart scopes open up in totem movie player?
[22:19] <ikonia> ivanrad: to change the file system you'd need to format(thus deleting the data)
[22:19] <ivanrad> okay if i dont have a mac are you saying this is impossible?
[22:19] <root____5> geekmasterflash: brb, got only one systerm
[22:19] <ikonia> ivanrad: saying what is impossible
[22:19] <reisio> chaotix: open source, so yes
[22:19] <ivanrad> trying to change HFS+ to ntfs or whatever linux supports
[22:20] <ikonia> ivanrad: you can't "change it" you have to re-format it
[22:20] <ivanrad> okay
[22:20] <ikonia> ivanrad: and ext4 is the recommended file system for linux
[22:20] <chaotix> reisio, how?
[22:20] <ivanrad> so basically i have to go buy a mac
[22:20] <ikonia> ivanrad: what are you talking about ?? buy a mac
[22:20] <ikonia> ivanrad: what are you trying to do
[22:20] <ivanrad> i have a drive that is 1tb big
[22:20] <reisio> ivanrad: did you try just mount /dev/XXX /mnt ?
[22:20] <root____5> geekmasterflash: "Private directory is not setup correctly"
[22:20] <ikonia> reisio: hfs default to read only
[22:20] <reisio> chaotix: dunno :)
[22:20] <ivanrad> its formatted to HFS+ i sold my mac got a pc and installed linux because im trying to learn
[22:20] <ikonia> (and rightly so)
[22:21] <patsToms> xangua, still herE?
[22:21] <ivanrad> i need to copy 414 gb of files onto the hard drive
[22:21] <ivanrad> how do i do it from linux
[22:21] <ikonia> ivanrad: are you planning on using the drive with a mac again in the future ?
[22:21] <ivanrad> no
[22:21] <geekmasterflash> root____5: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[22:21] <chaotix> does anyone know how to make video results from the unity smart scopes open up in totem movie player?
[22:21] <ikonia> ivanrad: then the correct solution would be to back the data up off the drive, format it with ext4 and put the data back on - along with the additional data you want to use
[22:22] <xangua> chaotix: with what does it open it by defaul¿
[22:22] <ivanrad> how can i back the data up off the drive without a mac
[22:22] <reisio> ivanrad: did you try just mount /dev/XXX /mnt ?
[22:22] <xangua> patsToms: ¿
[22:22] <ikonia> ivanrad: you can mount it read only - as it is now
[22:22] <Glyde> there are HFS filesystem readers for windows that read HFS+ fine, if you have a disc around you can recover the data that way
[22:22] <chaotix> xangua, with the default web browser
[22:22] <ikonia> ivanrad: then you back it up by copying it off to somewhere safe
[22:22] <ikonia> ivanrad: you can then format the disk with ext4 and put it back
[22:22] <chaotix> xangua, i mean the online results
[22:22] <chaotix> like from youtube and stuff
[22:23] <reisio> Glyde: GNU/Linux supports HFS+
[22:23] <Glyde> oh, where's the problem then?
[22:23] <ivanrad> CANT COPY
[22:23] <ivanrad> says read only
[22:23] <patsToms> xangua, http://i.imgur.com/JSGYSQw.png
[22:23] <reisio> Glyde: he won't respond to my questions
[22:23] <Glyde> ah
[22:23] <ikonia> ivanrad: you copy the data OFF the drive
[22:23] <reisio> so it's going to be very hard to tell what the problem is
[22:23] <ikonia> ivanrad: hence "backuk"
[22:23] <ikonia> reisio: he wants hfs+ write access
[22:23] <ivanrad> ikonia i just tried that
[22:23] <ikonia> ivanrad: ok, and what's the problem
[22:24] <reisio> ikonia: I didn't ask if he wanted hfs+ write access
[22:24] <ikonia> ivanrad: where did you try to copy it to ?
[22:24] <patsToms> xangua, any ideas why I don't have full transparent?
[22:24] <reisio> so that has no bearing on his ignoring my questions :p
[22:24] <ivanrad> linux desktop
[22:24] <SamuraiDio> i'm updating my fstab to allow TRIM, should I do that also on /boot and /efi partitions?
[22:24] <ikonia> ivanrad: what did it say/error ?
[22:24] <ivanrad> The folder "100MEDIA" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[22:24] <jgong> \nic ace_
[22:24] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: Are you doing this to optimize an SSD?
[22:24] <k1l_> SamuraiDio: do this for ext4 partitions
[22:24] <root____5> geekmasterflash: thanks will try
[22:24] <ikonia> ivanrad: is that the HFS disk ?
[22:25] <ivanrad> yes
[22:25] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, yes, and to extend life
[22:25] <ivanrad> 99 - user #99
[22:25] <ikonia> ivanrad: ok, so open /mnt in the file browser, do you see the files ?
[22:25] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: Then do it for every partition on the disk
[22:25] <xangua> patsToms: no idea, it does work for me in ubuntu 12.04
[22:25] <SamuraiDio> k1l_, ah, sure, so /efi should not
[22:25] <ivanrad> yes
[22:25] <ivanrad> ikonia
[22:26] <ikonia> ivanrad: ok, so click on right click on 1 file and click "copy" not "cut"
[22:26] <ivanrad> why dont you try join.me with me guarantee you will be shocked
[22:26] <ikonia> ivanrad: what ?
[22:26] <ivanrad> go to www.join.me
[22:26] <ikonia> ivanrad: no
[22:26] <ivanrad> oh
[22:26] <ivanrad> why is everyone so paranoid about sharing screens....
[22:26] <ikonia> I'm not paranoid
[22:27] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: It's the questionable porn we keep running at all time.
[22:27] <ivanrad> it would take you 2 seconds to figure out
[22:27] <ivanrad> lol
[22:27] <ivanrad> no one has porn
[22:27] <ikonia> I'll leave you to it then
[22:27] <patsToms> xangua, I have 13.10
[22:27] <ivanrad> why would you do that when this is a support channel?
[22:28] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: No one has porn? What is this, some dystopian future?
[22:28] <k1l_> ivanrad: please stick to ubuntu support in here
[22:28] <ivanrad> really dissapointing that no one would like to help a youngman like me
[22:28] <ivanrad> i could be learning
[22:28] <ikonia> ivanrad: people have been helping you - stop making things up
[22:29] <ivanrad> how?
[22:29] <ikonia> ivanrad: walking you through the problem, helping you troubleshoot it
[22:29] <bekks> ivanrad: People do - just not the way you want them, but the way they want.
[22:29] <ivanrad> i tried to copy the files and its not doing what you said it would
[22:29] <ikonia> ivanrad: I'd not finished explaining it to you if you read the scroll back
[22:29] <ivanrad> they would rather see my struggle rather than learn instantly oh thats what you did wrong
[22:30] <ikonia> ivanrad: stop complaining - and making things up, it's not helpful or true and it's insulting to people giving their time to help you
[22:30] <ivanrad> i did the copy what are you talking about
[22:30] <ivanrad> whats really insulting is wasting your time explaining things for minutes on end
[22:30] <bekks> ivanrad: give a man a fish, or show him how to fish.
[22:30] <ivanrad> rather than a couple seconds showing them
[22:30] <ikonia> ivanrad: it's not a case of a couple of seconds
[22:30] <ivanrad> this isnt fishing this is ubuntu
[22:30] <ikonia> !attitude | ivanrad
[22:30] <ivanrad> ....
[22:30] <ivanrad> i dont see water here
[22:31] <bekks> ivanrad: Yes, and being ubuntu doesnt mean: "oh wait, we give you some fish instantly."
[22:31] <bekks> However, this starts to be offtopic and unrelated to Ubuntu at all.
[22:31] <dannymichel> Anybody watch Arrow?
[22:32] <ivanrad> so why did your copy instructions not work
[22:32] <xangua> !ot | dannymichel
[22:32] <ikonia> dannymichel: this isn't a TV discussion channel, it's ubuntu technical support
[22:32] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: Don't know, what error did you get?
[22:32] <dannymichel> haha, it was about a theme im making ikonia
[22:32] <ivanrad> The folder "Music 21 gb" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[22:32] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: There you go, that's why it didnt work
[22:32] <ikonia> ivanrad: you are not giving factual information
[22:32] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: You don't have write/read permissions
[22:33] <patsToms> xangua, seems like I understand where is the problem. I'm with unity 2d, but needs 3d to get full transparent
[22:33] <ivanrad> okay
[22:33] <ivanrad> so this command doesnt work
[22:33] <ikonia> ivanrad: stop for a moment, go away note down the information such as the disk names and mount points and then give it to the channel cleanly
[22:33] <ikonia> ivanrad: that is a different disk name than you gave me earlier
[22:33] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: It works, but you first need to have permissions
[22:33] <ikonia> ivanrad: and your pastebin shows the wrong device names
[22:33] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: Try running it via sudo
[22:33] <xangua> patsToms: unity2d is still around in 13.10?
[22:33] <patsToms> someone have any idea how to get understand do I use unity 2d or 3d?
[22:33] <patsToms> xangua, no idea
[22:33] <ivanrad> okay lets take a moment here
[22:33] <patsToms> xangua, any way to check that?
[22:33] <ikonia> ivanrad: so stop for a moment, take a note of the CORRECT information, then give it to the channel clearly
[22:34] <hex20dec> Hey people, I just got a new usb wifi adapter, and wanted started installing it, at some point, I needed to reboot and then I suddenly lost access to my other wifi adapter, so now my laptop is stuck with no internet. Is it a either or choice? Can't I use both adapters?
[22:34] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, seens to be working :)
[22:35] <SamuraiDio> /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,discard,errors=remount-ro)
[22:35] <ivanrad> http://pastebin.com/V6ew8zdU
[22:35] <ivanrad> there we go
[22:35] <xangua> patsToms: I clearly see in your image you have desktop efects and as far as I remember unity2d was ditched since ubuntu 13.04
[22:35] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: I also recommend you set  noatime on those partitions
[22:35] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: As that will help lower writes
[22:35] <ivanrad> mount: warning: /media/ seems to be mounted read-only.
[22:36] <ivanrad> when i type mount it only makes it read only
[22:36] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, sure, i'll do that
[22:36] <bekks> ivanrad: /media/1 TERABYTE   is an invalid name. Use: /media/1\ TERABYTE
[22:36] <ivanrad> yes i already took the 1 TERABYTE out
[22:37] <ivanrad> i just mounted it as media
[22:37] <bekks> ivanrad: Then WHY do you paste it as it is irrelevant and outdated?
[22:37] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: Give us the error as you see it NOW
[22:37] <ivanrad> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media
[22:37] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: So we can help you, you unbelievablely dense man.
[22:37] <ivanrad> now i do not see the hard drive
[22:37] <bekks> ivanrad: So sdc1 is already mounted.
[22:37] <ikonia> geekmasterflash: no need to call people named
[22:37] <ikonia> names
[22:37] <geekmasterflash> ikonia: Sorry.
[22:37] <ivanrad> yes but why dont i see it in my home folder
[22:38] <ikonia> you didn't mount it in your home folder
[22:38] <ikonia> you mounted it on /media
[22:38] <ivanrad> where did i mount it to
[22:38] <zamba> what has happened with the medibuntu repo?
[22:38] <bekks> "sdc1 is already mounted at /media" ...
[22:38] <ikonia>  /media
[22:38] <zamba> what has replaced it?
[22:38] <bekks> ivanrad: Did you even read your own error messages? :)
[22:38] <xangua> zamba: it no longet exist
[22:38] <bekks> zamba: It is gone, basically.
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> zamba  medibuntu no longer exists
[22:38] <ivanrad> yes i did
[22:38] <ivanrad> but i dont see media
[22:39] <bekks> ivanrad: It is /media which is not in your home folder.
[22:39] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: Open a terminal
[22:39] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: type
[22:39] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: cd /media
[22:39] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: then type ls
[22:39] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: Do you see the files you are expecting?
[22:39] <ivanrad> yes
[22:39] <EcH`> hello
[22:39] <EcH`> =>
[22:39] <ivanrad> now how do i see that in the explorer window
[22:40] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: Go to /media in the window.
[22:40] <bekks> ivanrad: Click on filesystem, click on /, click on /media
[22:40] <ivanrad> The folder "100MEDIA" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[22:40] <ivanrad> okay found iot
[22:40] <ivanrad> same message when i try to copy
[22:40] <hex20dec> Hey people, I just got a new usb wifi adapter, and started installing it. At some point, I needed to reboot and now suddenly my first wifi adapter is disabled and I don't know how to re-enable it. I'm assuming it driver collision or something?
[22:40] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, https://gist.github.com/paulodiovani/e6656d3c4634f6e253c6
[22:41] <geekmasterflash> ivanrad: You need to set permissions
[22:41] <bekks> ivanrad: 100MEDIA is not /media
[22:41] <zamba> MonkeyDust: so where are the same packages?
[22:41] <zamba> MonkeyDust: i need h264 support in vlc, for instance
[22:41] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: How much memory do you have installed?
[22:41] <ivanrad> okay
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> zamba  try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:41] <SamuraiDio> 8GB
[22:41] <xangua> zamba: what ubuntu release are you using?
[22:41] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, suggest for mount swap on tmpfs?
[22:41] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: I would get rid of Swap or set swappiness to be super low
[22:42] <ivanrad> chmod +x ?
[22:42] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: You don't want to be constantly writing to an SSD
[22:42] <bekks> geekmasterflash: Why not?
[22:42] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: And you have more than enough memory
[22:42] <zamba> xangua: 12.04
[22:42] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, swap is not on ssd, is on 500gb hdd
[22:42] <geekmasterflash> bekks: Because SSD can only take so many writes before they are borked.
[22:42] <bekks> geekmasterflash: Technicallym there is no reason to not do so. The very first SSD had issues, nowadays those issues are gone.
[22:43] <bekks> geekmasterflash: There are tests running which reached 6Petabyte already for writing onto an SSD without breaking it.
[22:43] <ivanrad> Why cant i right click the hard drive and change the permission
[22:43] <bekks> geekmasterflash: As I said, those issue are gone for a long time now.
[22:43] <ivanrad> it says i am not the owner
[22:43] <Anuska> quotaon: using /home/aquota.group on /dev/sda6 [/home]: Device or resource busy
[22:43] <Anuska> ?
[22:43] <geekmasterflash> bekks: I guess? I recently had a few (albeit cheap) SSDs die from over writing
[22:44] <ivanrad> Error creating moint point: Read-only file system
[22:44] <bekks> geekmasterflash: There are chances that every disk dies at some point. But statistically SSD do live longer nowadays than they ever did before.
[22:45] <bekks> ivanrad: When doing what...? Do you think we can gues your commands causing that error?
[22:45] <geekmasterflash> bekks: Of course, but I live by better safe that sorry. At 8 gigs you hardly need swap anyway, so why risk it?
[22:45] <Anuska> /dev/sda6 [/home]: group quotas turned on
[22:45] <Anuska> work!
[22:45] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, bekks I read a lot about it. SSD has a lower lifetime, but even for constant writes it may live for 8 years or more (just hiting a number, here). I don't think i'll keep the notebook for more than 5 years without getting a new one
[22:45] <bekks> geekmasterflash: For a safe living, have a backup. :)
[22:45] <ivanrad> when just plugging in the hard drive
[22:46] <bekks> SamuraiDio: Yeah, so you can use your SSD for swap even :)
[22:46] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, oops, sorry, I have only 4gb. 8gb was the ultrabook I didin't bought :P
[22:47] <geekmasterflash> SamuraiDio: Ah, then you will want to keep some swap space.
[22:48] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, bekks, I was planning to get a 8gb, use no swap and mount /tmp to tmpfs, but with 4gb make no harm have some swap space
[22:50] <SamuraiDio> geekmasterflash, bekks and again, it is on hdd. if memory hits swap I consider that something is wrong, so makes no point to have it on ssd
[22:51] <bekks> Which is a wrong assumption.
[22:54] <CGflightsuit> I've got a quick question if anyone's up
[22:54] <alan_> Hi
[22:55] <alan_> is this the right channel for Ubuntu help?
[22:55] <CGflightsuit> I loaded 12.0.4 on an old HP probook, and it isn't recognizing the battery correctly
[22:55] <kandinski> how to report a bug against a PPA?
[22:55] <CGflightsuit> is there a driver I can install or something
[22:55] <kandinski> it's not a bug in the program, but against the package
[22:56] <kandinski> can't find where in the launchpad interface
[22:56] <Guest27605> CG, I'm not an expert, I came here due to a problem myself - but are there any drivers on HP's website maybe CG?
[22:56] <Guest27605> Just a guess. Sorry if its not a helpful response. I tried.
[22:56] <CGflightsuit> I'll check
[22:56] <Guest27605> Okay.
[22:57] <jrib>  /what
[22:59] <sander^home> Do anyone know how I can mount a remote directory using webdav with digest authentication?
[22:59] <sander^home> I'm getting: Digest mutual authentication failure: request-digest mismatch
[22:59] <sander^home> with the mount.davfs command
[23:00] <Guest27605> I'm running Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, and I'm trying to install Adobe Air. In order to do so, I need the package ia32-libs. So I ran the command "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs", and got the result: Reading package lists... Done
[23:00] <Guest27605> Building dependency tree
[23:00] <Guest27605> Reading state information... Done
[23:00] <Guest27605> Package ia32-libs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[23:00] <Guest27605> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[23:00] <FloodBot1> Guest27605: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:00] <Guest27605> is only available from another source
[23:01] <Guest27605> .
[23:01] <^wingnut^> #cobbler
[23:07] <rearden> hello, I have a currently "bricked" hard drive (i believe) and can't format/install Ubuntu to it
[23:07] <geekmasterflash> rearden: How can we help?
[23:08] <rearden> I don't know what to do. I screwed up my install a few times, and formatted/reinstalled, but this last time, it decided to install to an external drive, and now I can't access my internal HDD
[23:08] <gclark85_> I have a script that I want to execute on shutdown or restart.  I have tried running it manually which works fine and in runlevel 3 which works fine but in runlevel0 and runlevel6 it doesn't work at all
[23:08] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Is the harddrive gpt/UEFI ?
[23:08] <Guest27605> Hi, I really need help with Ubuntu-Gnome
[23:08] <Guest27605> I am trying to install Adobe Air, and need the package "ia32-libs"
[23:08] <rearden> the hard drive simply says "ubuntu" in my boot utility
[23:09] <Guest27605> So I used the command sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[23:09] <tozen> Guest27605: so?
[23:09] <Guest27605> And got an error:
[23:09] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Do you have another computer you can install it in? It would be helpful to know if it's a gpt formatted drive
[23:09] <Guest27605> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[23:09] <Guest27605> is only available from another source
[23:09] <Guest27605> However the following packages replace it:
[23:09] <Guest27605>   lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0
[23:09] <Guest27605> E: Package 'ia32-libs' has no installation candidate
[23:09] <FloodBot1> Guest27605: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <CGflightsuit> ok, so I looked on HPs website for any drivers, and I didn't see anything specific, refering to the battery, but there is a BIOS firmware update.  That got me thinking, could it be a bad BIOS battery?
[23:10] <tozen> Guest27605: pastebin error please
[23:10] <rearden> no, this is the only desktop I have
[23:10] <Beldar> rearden, Can't access the internal via? can you be a little more clear.
[23:10] <tozen> Guest27605: are you using x64 installation?
[23:11] <maxb> Guest27605: ia32-libs no longer exists. It has been replaced by multiarch packages
[23:11] <geekmasterflash> rearden: I would use a liveCD to boot to an OS, and then use that to check how the drive is formatted
[23:11] <rearden> it doesn't show up in my list of devices. the only place it even exists is in my boot utility, and is just says "ubuntu", when I try to boot from it, it tells me to insert boot media and press any key to continue
[23:11] <Guest27605> I have my problem discussed here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6455912/
[23:11] <geekmasterflash> rearden: I am hesitant of offer any suggestions until we know, cause you can totally screw up a gpt partition easily.
[23:12] <Guest27605> Help is greatly appreciated, I really need this fix desperately
[23:12] <Guest27605> Um, as far as partitions
[23:12] <rearden> I don't need anything on the drive. if I can just wipe it completely, that's fine
[23:12] <Beldar> !who | rearden
[23:12] <Guest27605> What was your question? I might be able to help you
[23:12] <Guest27605> Well I can try at least.
[23:12] <maxb> Guest27605: ia32-libs no longer exists. It has been replaced by multiarch packages
[23:13] <wafflejockTablet> Guest27605: use the 32 bit version
[23:13] <rearden> geekmasterflash: sorry, didn't know how to flag messages
[23:16] <geekmasterflash> rearden: I recommend getting a LiveCD, booting from it and checking the partition from the command line of the livecd. You'll also want to find out if your bios is UEFI, because that can cause problems if you are trying to dual boot
[23:17] <geekmasterflash> rearden: It could be the drive is fine, but UEFI thinks it's protecting you.
[23:17] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Past that, you should be able to get the drive formatted from command. If you can't then it might be really, really bricked.
[23:17] <rearden> geekmasterflash: i'm not dual booting. my thumb drive and this external are UEFI though. and I've tried finding the disk through the liveCD on my thumb drive, but it doesn't show up for partitionaing at all
[23:18] <Guest27605> I'm trying to install Adobe Air, and need the package ia32-libs (based on the Ubuntu forums). I'm on a 64bit architecture, and cannot install the package.
[23:18] <Guest27605> Can anyone help me to get the multiarch package?
[23:19] <geekmasterflash> rearden: From the liveCD's commandline try this command: egrep 'sd[a-z]' /proc/partitions
[23:19] <Guest27605> I tried to use sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch
[23:19] <Guest27605> But got the error:
[23:19] <CGflightsuit> My problem is laid out here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6455928/plain/ can anyone point me in the right directon?  Thanks
[23:20] <zdwolfe> After an update, LightDM Text-To-Speech reads the login screen to me very loudly. How do I disable this?
[23:20] <rearden> geekmasterflash: thanks, I will give that a shot.
[23:20] <CGflightsuit> Ok, well, that didn't work, sorrhy
[23:20] <CGflightsuit> sorry
[23:20] <Guest27605> alan@alan-VPCEE31FX:~$ sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch
[23:20] <Guest27605> [sudo] password for alan:
[23:20] <Guest27605> Reading package lists... Done
[23:20] <Guest27605> Building dependency tree
[23:20] <Guest27605> Reading state information... Done
[23:20] <FloodBot1> Guest27605: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:20] <Guest27605> E: Unable to locate package ia32-libs-multiarch
[23:20] <geekmasterflash> Guest27605: Type sudo apt-get install multiarch-support
[23:20] <rearden> geekmasterflash: is there a special mode I should boot the live cd?
[23:21] <rearden> geekmasterflash: and i'm in ubuntu now, can I do that from this external?
[23:21] <geekmasterflash> rearden: No, just when it asks if you want to use the cd or install, select to use the livecd and not install
[23:21] <Guest27605> Geek,
[23:21] <geekmasterflash> rearden: You should be able to, yes.
[23:21] <Guest27605> I tried using the command you sent me and the result was:
[23:21] <Guest27605> multiarch-support is already the newest version.
[23:21] <Guest27605> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 111 not upgraded.
[23:21] <geekmasterflash> Guest27605: Okay, so what was the program you wanted to us?
[23:22] <maxb> Guest27605: ia32-libs no longer exists in modern Linux. Nor does ia32-libs-multiarch. They were stopgap measures that were no longer needed once the package management system got true support for managing multiple architectures of packages. Whatever stuff you may have read saying you want them is out of date.
[23:22] <geekmasterflash> use*
[23:22] <Guest27605> Adobe Air, Geek
[23:22] <Guest27605> The commands I'm using are from the topic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87447/how-can-i-install-adobe-air
[23:22] <apb1963> why is it that when I change from dhcp to static, "service network restart" gives me stop: Unknown instance:
[23:22] <apb1963> start: Job failed to start
[23:23] <geekmasterflash> Guest27605: Adobe Air requires an out of date package
[23:23] <geekmasterflash> Guest27605: However, if you already have multiarch support
[23:23] <apb1963> In fact, to get this to work, I had to ifconfig up and down by hand and add the default gw to the route table.
[23:23] <geekmasterflash> Guest27605: Try installing it now
[23:23] <rearden> geekmasterflash: I see todrives with very large numbers, which I assume to be how much space they have on them
[23:23] <geekmasterflash> Guest27605: It may very well work.
[23:23] <Guest27605> Ok, thanks Geek
[23:23] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Okay, how many drives are you expecting to see?
[23:24] <Beldar> Guest27605, Those instructions are for oneric.
[23:24] <eddie_> hi guys i need help with dual boot
[23:24] <Guest27605> !Beldar Is Oneric some old Ubuntu release?
[23:24] <apb1963> and even though networking is in fact working... I still get the error
[23:25] <Beldar> Guest27605, Yes one not supported, always use help on the release your using.
[23:25] <eddie_> Guys anyone
[23:25] <Rory> eddie_: Ask an actual question
[23:25] <rearden> geekmasterflash: there are some smaller ones that I can't quite identify (CD-ROM and such, I imagine) and two that look terrabyte in size, which would be my external and my internal. If I am reading this right, it looks in order
[23:25] <eddie_> I have installed Ububtu along with Windows 8. But the dual boot menu is not poping up instead going to windows
[23:26] <geekmasterflash> rearden: My question is: Are you seeing a drive that might be the drive in question?
[23:26] <bekks> !grub2 | eddie_
[23:27] <rearden> geekmasterflash: yes, I think so. I don't really know how to read this accurately though.
[23:27] <eddie_> i have installed from USB
[23:27] <rearden> geekmasterflash: the HDD i am having trouble with is a terrabyte, and so is my external that I am on now.
[23:28] <rearden> geekmasterflash: i see two very large numbers, I think those represent size
[23:29] <Rory> eddie_: The first link you were given has instructions on how to recover grub
[23:29] <Beldar> eddie_, Note the bootrepair app in the first link the bot gives you, save the bootinfo summary of you use it.
[23:29] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Okay, can you remove the external drive and run the command again?
[23:29] <eddie_> ok i will try
[23:29] <ObrienDave> !ask
[23:29] <geekmasterflash> rearden: So we can determine which disc is the one we want
[23:30] <dozn1> :qexit
[23:30] <rearden> geekmasterflash: no, unfortunately not. I am running the OS currently from that external. I'll need to boot up the liveCD. do I just need to "try without installing" to get where I need to be?
[23:31] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Yes.
[23:31] <rearden> geekmasterflash: thank you
[23:33] <picca> anyone tried ubuntu on a mobile phone
[23:35] <rearden> geekmasterflash: ok, so, thatcommand is doing nothing in the terminal now
[23:37]  * picca yawns and goes to sleep
[23:38] <Poenikatu> My laptop, running Ubuntu 13.10, is connected to my home WLAN. How can I send messages from peer to peer?
[23:38] <sdfser> howdy
[23:39] <picca> hi sdfser
[23:39] <Guest27605> Poen, do you mean like instant messages over your wifi connection?
[23:40] <Glyde> So, I hooked up a second monitor but it just shows and underscore, but on boot the second monitor displays the splash screen, how do I get both working on the desktop?
[23:41] <Guest27605> Glyde, I'm not good with displays
[23:41] <TheHustle> Hello, I've made progress, installed Ubuntu 10.04, now this time in the external dvd drive the disk is spinning, waiting to be read, but theres no icon on the desktop to open the cd.
[23:41] <Guest27605> but I can try with a guess to help you.
[23:41] <rearden> geekmasterflash: ok,so, egrep wasn't working. I just used unity to navigate the partitions file and opened it with gedit. both of those large drives have now vanished
[23:41] <wafflejockTablet> Check system settings for monitors Glyde
[23:41] <TheHustle> do i need to do something like mount the drive?
[23:41] <Poenikatu> Guest27605, I mean, that it would be useful to key a short message on one computer and send it to the other via the WLAN. ie, not going onto the Internet.
[23:42] <Glyde> it only shows my first monitor in displays, the second one is on a different video card
[23:43] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Need a moment, I am at work and getting calls
[23:43] <rearden> geekmasterflash: take your time
[23:46] <wafflejockTablet> Glyde: what graphics card lspci in terminal for details
[23:46] <wafflejockTablet> !nvidia > Glyde
[23:47] <wafflejockTablet> !ati > Glyde
[23:47] <Glyde> oh, sorry, the one that's not working is an intergrated
[23:47] <Glyde> my ATI card works fine
[23:47] <wafflejockTablet> Glyde: lspci should show integrated graphics as well
[23:48] <wafflejockTablet> Glyde: do lspci -k to see what modules are loaded for the devices too
[23:48] <Glyde> it shows the splash screen then throws *ERROR* PCH poison interrupt before going to an underscore
[23:48] <Glyde> it's a pretty old flatscreen VGA monitor
[23:49] <Glyde> works fine though
[23:49] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Okay, I am back. Still here?
[23:49] <rearden> geekmasterflash: yes, thanks for being so helpful, btw
[23:50] <Glyde> what am I looking for in that lspci -k output?
[23:50] <wafflejockTablet> Glyde:  your graphics chip set and current module loaded basically would search the chip set and Linux version
[23:51] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Sorry, so now that you are on the livecd the command I gave you doesn't work?
[23:51] <wafflejockTablet> Glyde: use lsb_release -a to see your exact distro
[23:51] <Glyde> I see it, intel corp xeon e3-1200 v2/3rd gen core processor graphics controller, rev 09
[23:52] <rearden> geekmasterflash: yeah, interestingly, it just spits the command line back at me. no errors or anything. i navigated to the file and opened it via gedit
[23:52] <Glyde> I'm on 13.10
[23:52] <rearden> geekmasterflash: the two large partitions have vanished.
[23:52] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Odd, so you can't see either hard drive?
[23:53] <rearden> geekmasterflash: correct.
[23:54]  * geekmasterflash scratches his head
[23:55] <domino14> this is frustrating, my drive is entirely filled up and i can't find out what the biggest files are
[23:55] <domino14> because the find / command i do to sort it has no space to write to /tmp
[23:55] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Alright try putting the command parted into terminal
[23:55] <domino14> can someone help
[23:55] <wafflejockTablet> domino14: install ncdu
[23:55] <domino14> i have no space
[23:55] <wafflejockTablet> domino14: or k4dirstat
[23:56] <wafflejockTablet> domino14: live cd
[23:56] <Rory> domino14: You can free a little space with "sudo apt-get clean"
[23:56] <domino14> it's a remote machine
[23:56] <Rory> domino14: Then you can install those things
[23:56] <domino14> sudo apt-get clean is doing nothing
[23:56] <rearden> geekmasterflash: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ parted WARNING: You are not superuser.  Watch out for permissions. Error: No device found
[23:56] <d----> I'm running Opera for Linux (Ubuntu) how do I associate irc:// with xchat instead of opera irc?
[23:56] <wafflejockTablet> Ncdu will be smaller its ncurses disk usage command line interface
[23:57] <geekmasterflash> rearden: sorry, sudo parted
[23:57] <wafflejockTablet> domino14: check your /var/log/ kern.log or syslog or others can get filled up
[23:57] <rearden> geekmasterflash: i should have known that. ok, it appears to have put me into whatever it is you are hoping for
[23:58] <SamuraiDio> why does wine depends on so much i386 libs?
[23:58] <rearden> geekmasterflash: Welcome to GNU parted... \n(parted)
[23:58] <esde> d----, installing to recreate right now, gimme a few
[23:58] <geekmasterflash> rearden: K, quit parted then reissue command sudo parted -l
[23:59] <d----> esde: thanks!
[23:59] <rearden> geekmasterflash:  alright, it is showing me one drive, the thumb drive i am on
[23:59] <geekmasterflash> rearden: wtf.