[01:07] <aloiece> sysadmin_rav how?
[01:07] <aloiece> SysAdmin_Raven!
[01:09] <SysAdmin_Raven> i installed the 32 bit lib's
[01:10] <aloiece> and that lets you use the jacksink?\
[01:11] <SysAdmin_Raven> yes
[01:12] <SysAdmin_Raven> which also allows me to port either my ip phone or skype through idjc
[01:13] <SysAdmin_Raven> the 32 bit lib's give a proper crossover for skype to use pulseaudio
[01:13] <aloiece> the 32 bit version of skype 4
[01:13] <aloiece> ?
[01:13] <SysAdmin_Raven> yes
[01:13] <aloiece> nice
[01:13] <SysAdmin_Raven> downloaded from skype.com
[01:13] <aloiece> cool!
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> 4.2 in the repos, it advised to use the repos on the wiki.
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> it's*
[01:15] <SysAdmin_Raven> i always use the download from the website
[01:16] <SysAdmin_Raven> this is with idjc 0.8.7.  any version that is newer peaks out my cpu core to 100%
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> In the past using the site was needed for problems, however the wiki now says not to the repo has the latest.
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> If it works though does not matter
[01:17] <SysAdmin_Raven> and it does work
[01:21] <ThDoctor> How do I get dual monitors in 13.10.
[01:21] <ThDoctor> The display setting only shows one monitor.
[10:53] <Nytram> Hi everyone. I'm very new to Ubuntu Studio and have installed 13.10. I'm having the worst problem possible in Ubuntu Studio... No sound. My pci Soundblaster XFi Platinum is not even detected as far as I can see, because I can find no audio hardware settings anywhere. Could some kind soul shove me in the right direction please?
[10:55] <cfhowlett> !sound
[10:55] <Nytram> No sound preferences are available on the volume applet, all I get is a tiny grey line with nothing on it, no menu.
[10:56] <Nytram> !sound
[10:56] <Nytram> Oh hahah!
[10:57] <Nytram> Thanks for the shove. 8)
[11:14] <cub> If Nytram reappears this will fix the sound indicator http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[15:27] <waykool> 1st off, hello NSA. 2nd, hiya all. question: just did clean install Ubuntu studio v13.10 64 bit. always frustrated w/XFCE GUI.  on 10.04.4 LTS 64 bit (Gnome 2), under Admin, was a Login. Allowed you to select AUTOMATIC LOGIN, you picked what "user" it logged into first.  i don't see that program. is it hiding -or- been renamed to something else?
[15:28] <holstein> waykool: choose what GUI you like
[15:29] <holstein> waykool: what would like like to address? NSA? gnome2 being dead? autologin? alternatives to XFCE?
[15:29] <waykool> the NSA thing was a joke.
[15:31] <holstein> waykool: ok.. so, moving on from that then..
[15:32] <waykool> changing subject, why did Canocal take down the v10.04 - 11.10 ISO downloads?
[15:33] <waykool> yet there's still an ISO download for ubuntu studio v9.04?
[15:33] <holstein> waykool: they are all up, and still available to download.. the issue is support...
[15:33] <holstein> !10.04
[15:34] <holstein> waykool: 10.04 is not supported anymore.. the server version is.. but the desktop versions are no longer officially supported.. you can download the iso's if you like, but the repos will not provide updates for the desktop
[15:34] <holstein> waykool: 10.04 was/is an LTS release..
[15:34] <holstein> !lts
[15:35] <holstein> waykool: the ohter versions had a much shorter support schedule.. 11.10 for example
[15:36] <holstein> they are "taken down" from the main download sources to resolve any confusion, and make certain no one downloads the release expecting support
[15:36] <waykool> i was well aware 2 months in advance of the July 2012 10.04 LTS END of support. BUT kept using it on 5 computers. i'm extremely curious why i can't find v10.04.4 LTS 64 bit, even in Google search?
[15:36] <holstein> waykool: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[15:37] <holstein> waykool: there ^ is where you can download *any* older, unsupported release
[15:37] <holstein> you are free to keep using what you like where you like, but vulnerabilities will not be patched for you..
[15:38] <waykool> my 1.7 GB DVD-R got a hairline crack,  ran Dvdisater to no avail.
[15:39] <holstein> waykool: maybe im misunderstanding you.. you have a 10.04 64bit DVD? and its broken? and you cannot find the iso to download?
[15:39] <holstein> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso
[15:39] <waykool> YES
[15:39] <holstein> ^^ when i drill down the menu from the old release i linked above, i get to that ^^
[15:39] <holstein> waykool: is that not what you are asking for?
[15:40] <waykool> Holstein You're a SAINT! ty ty ty ty~!!
[15:41] <waykool> NOTE that URL is NOT posted at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntustudio/
[15:42] <waykool> been begging hundreds for over 2 months for that URL.
[15:42] <waykool> again, thank you!
[15:42] <holstein> waykool: thats just the ubuntu one
[15:42] <mlpug> Are you sure you want to use those old versions
[15:42] <holstein> ubuntustduio *is* ubuntu
[15:42] <holstein> no reason to use 10.04
[15:43] <waykool> oh no. i have that Desktop version already. clicked without reading :(
[15:45] <waykool> yes i have VERY good Professional reasons for needing U Studio v10.04.4 LTS 64 bit.  why did Ubuntu make the ISO URL's vanish?
[15:45] <holstein> waykool: they dont 'vanish', they are just not supported anymore
[15:45] <holstein> waykool: you can use the sources from the 10.04 release to make ubuntustudio
[15:46] <holstein> waykool: im not sure where are archives are, or how to get them up to date.. we were going through some issues back then, and that was when i first came in the group
[15:46] <holstein> waykool: 10.04 had the rt kernel from 9.10, and had no special packages
[15:46] <waykool> i DON'T need support. next going to try installing on one box Ubuntu Alternative v10.04 64 bit.
[15:46] <holstein> waykool: there are only "professional" reasons to use the laters
[15:47] <holstein> waykool: please no caps
[15:47] <holstein> !volunteers
[15:47] <waykool> sorry.... i don't need support
[15:47] <holstein> waykool: sure.. that is irrelevant.. they are not supported
[15:48] <holstein> waykool: meaing, canonnical doesnt support us making them available for download, as the others are
[15:48] <holstein> waykool: they are, and should have been archived, and available, and if you can wait patiently, i can help you
[15:48] <holstein> waykool: you dont need the older release..
[15:49] <waykool> 15 years ago, got into linux. started on red hat enterprise edition. 3 reasons: 1 secure, 2 stable, 3 runs great on old computers.
[15:49] <holstein> waykool: ftp://ftp-hk.tmapy.cz/pub/linux/iso-images/desktop/ubuntu-10.04/ubuntustudio-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[15:50] <holstein> waykool: that link is working for me.. i would search around and try and find an md5 sum
[15:50] <holstein> waykool: running the unsupported, unpatched, older versions is not more stable, nor an argument for security
[15:51] <waykool> thank you Holstein but i already have that version burned to DVD-R.
[15:51] <holstein> waykool: you can prefer gnome2, and thats fine.. but there is no reason, from the 3 above, that dictate you running 10.04
[15:51] <holstein> waykool: you stated the DVD was broken..
[15:52] <waykool> yes DVD crack does like your car windshield. the crack spreads by itself over time.
[15:52] <holstein> waykool: OK.. so, if you like, download the iso from the source i gave above, and make a new DVD
[15:52] <holstein> you have no reason to run the older, unsupported, unpatched version, waykool
[15:52] <waykool> ok i certainly will. again, thank you.
[15:53] <waykool> i do very complex Audio Production in real life. started on Studio because its cheaper than buying a Mac.
[15:54] <holstein> waykool: cost was never an issue for me, i chose and choose to do the same, and i use the current supported version of ubuntu
[15:54] <holstein> waykool: i do complex audio production on the LTS versions of ubuntu
[15:55] <holstein> waykool: 12.04 is the version you should use to address the issues you state above.. you are free to use 10.04, but you should be using 12.04
[15:55] <waykool> i agree 1oo%. was told years ago to only use LTS versions for professional projects.
[15:56] <holstein> waykool: 12.04 *is* an lts.. the latest 12.04..
[15:56] <waykool> nods yes..
[15:57] <waykool> been using ubuntu since Desktop v7.10
[15:57] <mlpug> My first love 6.06LTS Dapper Drake is on that list as well. We have had some tough times with Ubuntu during all these years but we are still together.
[15:57] <waykool> agrees. i love ubuntu studio
[15:58] <holstein> "love" is not a concern here.. using 10.04 is
[15:58] <waykool> for any Professional musician, Studio is a perfect home recording studio.
[15:58] <holstein> 12.04 is the latest (and supported) LTS version, not 10.04
[15:59] <mlpug> Yes, my love does not mean that I would return to 6.06 now that I found her again
[16:00] <holstein> 12.04 runs on the same "older" hardware the 10.04 would.. and arguably better
[16:00] <waykool> 10.04 automatically created Swap Partition 3x RAM size.  noticed 13.10 created 1x RAM size. hmm
[16:01] <holstein> waykool: you can manually do whatever you like with swap size.. its likely that it was found to be "better" the way it is now, or more relevant with current typical ram sizes
[16:01] <holstein> there is nothing about studio that will benifit from utilizing swap
[16:02] <holstein> !partitioning
[16:02] <waykool> i save everything.  i can offer you the ISO for Desktop v7.10 if that might help?
[16:03] <holstein> waykool: manual partitioning with 12.04 lts will allow you to have swap 3x (or whatever) size the ram
[16:04] <waykool> oh yes. swap is very important when in Audacity, under Prefs, check box checked for use RAM -and/or- Swap (if needed)
[16:05] <waykool> guess i should mentioned, i've never used more than 2 GB RAM on all my computers.
[16:05] <holstein> waykool: actually, no
[16:05] <holstein> waykool: using swap, or arguably audacity in a professional studio will not get the job done properly
[16:06] <holstein> waykool: use what you like, all im saying is, you have no reason that i have seen so far *not* to use the supported and current 12.04 LTS
[16:06] <holstein> waykool: enjoy!
[16:06] <waykool> Audacity's great for basic stereo editing of MP3 files, etc
[16:06] <holstein> sure, and the swap file wont change that
[16:09] <waykool> honestly, have good reasons for liking Gnome 2 over Xfce, Unity. but i like LXDE GUI.
[16:09] <holstein> waykool: gnome2 is dead.. gnome has it EOL
[16:10] <waykool> sometimes i edit projects in Knoppix live cd/dvd run
[16:10] <holstein> waykool: prefer what you want, but gnome2 is discontinued.. and we, and many others, feel XFCE continues the feel there
[16:10] <holstein> waykool: sometimes i use AVLinux live
[16:10] <waykool> when i use xfce, i get tons of crashes,
[16:11] <waykool> Launchpad.net must hate all the crash reports from me.
[16:11] <holstein> waykool: i dont
[16:11] <waykool> Unity was worse.
[16:12] <holstein> waykool: many users dont get crashes from xfce or unity
[16:12] <holstein> waykool: you can address the issues you have, or use 10.04.. but its not supported here
[16:13] <holstein> waykool: i will try and figure out if we can host the older iso's at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntustudio/ and i will gladly personally contact you about that if you like, but 10.04 is not supported here, or anywhere else, so that will be the extent of our 10.04 business
[16:14] <waykool> add, 1st year release of Unity. i was ubuntu linux users Group Moderator in Second Life. for a year straight, it was non stop complaining and screaming. eventually couldn't stand it. i quit.
[16:15] <waykool> still belong to the group. just not moderating anymore.
[16:18] <waykool> i thought, how could i kick 1,000 people out of our group for bad language when the Unity GUI problems were so severe? i let them rant and curse to get it out of their system.
[16:19] <holstein> waykool: unity is best supported and discussed in #ubuntu
[16:19] <waykool> eventually i started the ubuntu studio users group in second life.
[16:20] <holstein> waykool: unity is what it is, and you dont have to like or use it, but you are welcome to use ubuntustudio package with it, if one likes
[16:20] <holstein> waykool: ubuntustudio now uses xfce, and i have no crashing bugs with default packages
[16:26] <waykool> my 5 computers range in age from 5-15 years old.  2 of 5 had to run 32 bit. the oldest is a Dell tower i paid over $1,400. now worth 10 cents at a yardsale. Max 384 MB RAM but runs perfectly on ubuntu studio v10.04 LTS 32 bit.
[16:28] <waykool> Holstein, do you use Ardour for multi-track recording or a different program?
[17:57] <jb44> Question: is there a way to install 12.04.3 with encryption? If so, how?
[17:59] <jb44> anyone home?
[18:00] <Unit193> jb44: Yep, you can in the ubiquity installer.  Encrypted LVM.
[18:00] <jb44> with 12.04.3? I know in 13.10 you can.
[18:00] <jb44> is ubiquity updated in 12.04.3?
[18:01] <jb44> by default?
[18:02] <Unit193> I don't see alternates, and that was part of the blocker for dropping them.  I don't remember for sure, but can look it up.
[18:03] <zequence> jb44: you can install using the alternate netinstall image, the mini.iso
[18:03] <zequence> jb44: It's a generic Ubuntu installer with which you can install all the ubuntu studio metas, but you'll need to make a couple of changes to make it fully Ubuntu Studio after the installation
[18:04] <zequence> ..the most important change being adding yourself to audio group in order to get realtime privilege
[18:04] <zequence> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:04] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsViaUbiquity might work too.
[18:05] <jb44> I'd rather just do it the ol' fashioned way if possible but thanks for the input zequence.
[18:06] <zequence> jb44: That would be the old fashioned way, the way you installed Ubuntu Studio in the past - not using ubiquity
[18:06] <jb44> ok, thanks peeps. I'll be on my way.
[18:06] <Unit193> Well then...
[18:07] <Unit193> zequence: So they didn't have lvm support?
[18:07] <zequence> I don't recall. But, I have a hunch there was no encryption support for 12.04
[18:07] <zequence> from ubiquity at least
[18:09] <edwardFish> any SC experts?
[19:44] <cub> edwardFish, SC?
[19:45] <Unit193> StarCraft is my only thought.
[19:48] <cub> SoundCloud?
[19:48] <cub> I suppose if we were experts we would know. :D
[19:59] <jimmie> I absolutely love this release but i would like to bring all of my stuff over from the windows side of my partition any sugesstions?
[20:03] <jimmie> ok so i love the new ubuntustudio! but i want to bring over all of my data from the win side of my hard drive , any suggestions?
[20:06] <jimmie> hello is anyone here?
[20:09] <mlpug> some data is easy to bring some is not or is useless if brought
[20:13] <mlpug> I never used protools but I assume that there is some associated protools specific data. Bringing that to ubuntustudio is useless. On the other extreme, if "your data" is recorded music or midi files, they are usable more or less out-of-the-box of course. Maybe I misinterpret you what you mean by "your data"
[20:15] <mlpug> just take your stuff to ubuntustudio and see how you can make use of it. sorry, I have to go. talk to you later.
[20:33] <vohe> hello .
[20:33] <vohe> Someone knows if there are databases under Ubuntu Studio?
[21:31] <Beldar> test
[21:32] <Beldar> test
[22:34] <aloiece> how do I replace ardour 2.8 from ubuntu studios 12.4 menu and replace it with the current version of ardour?
[22:43] <OvenWerks> aloiece: probably the best way is to download it from the ardour site.
[22:45] <OvenWerks> I don't know if there is an ardour3 package available in the 12.04 repos or not. Start synaptic and search ardour and it should show or not.