[00:27] <kludge__> anyone have a problem with redshift crashing at startup?
[00:28] <kludge__> or fluxgui not changing the color of the screen?
[00:30] <xubuntu850> thank you for the best OS ever made. Windows 8, google and Apple can go to sleep
[00:35] <amerigena> If I upgrade to lts-raring, how do I disable notifications for lts-quantal in Update Manager?
[00:50] <drc> As far as I know raring and quantal are not LTS's.
[00:52] <amerigena> no, lts-raring is an update to the 12.0.4.3 kernel available through synaptic or apt-get.
[00:52] <amerigena> once it's installed, it updates the default kernel to 3.8.
[00:52] <drc> are you talking about this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[00:53] <amerigena> same as xserver-xorg-lts-raring
[00:53] <amerigena> yes, that's what I'm talking about. I did it. And now I get Update Manager notifications for earlier kernel versions. I'd like to disable these notifications.
[00:54] <drc> sort of defeats the purpose of a lts, if you ask me, but what to I know?
[00:56] <amerigena> No, it doesn't defeat the purpose of an LTS at all. These kernel updates offer functionality available in newer (X)Ubuntu versions, while maintaining the advantage of LTS software package availability in 12.04.
[00:56] <drc> Can't help you there, no idea...sorry.
[00:57] <amerigena> You get some of the advantages of 13.10 and the LTS stability of 12.04.
[00:58] <drc> wait...in 13.10, in Software and Updates>Updates (whatever the 12.04 equivilent is), maybe something there?
[00:58] <drc> Other than that, I fresh out.
[01:01] <drc> and with that, I'm really out
[01:08] <donnysaengkio> Hi all
[05:08] <xubuntu947> hi
[05:09] <xubuntu947> anyone here??
[05:09] <xubuntu853> My wife ust bought a new MacBook Pro.  She had an old white iMac
[05:09] <xubuntu947> hi guys i need help
[05:09] <xubuntu853> 2006 or eariler I think...  I am wondering what version of Linux I might  run on it?
[05:09] <xubuntu947> i am running xubuntu live from usb but it keeps asking for password?
[05:09] <xubuntu947> any idea
[05:10] <xubuntu853> Sorry... my first time here.  Not using xubunt yet
[05:10] <xubuntu947> anyother person here who can help me?
[05:10] <Unit193> !mac | Not sure about macs
[05:11] <xubuntu853> Thank you
[05:11] <Unit193> xubuntu947: Howdy, so what are you doing that it's asking?  The live password is blank.
[05:12] <xubuntu853> So... that link is for Ubuntu.  Are xubuntu and Ubuntu that same?
[05:12] <danielmatt> xubuntu853: I would run it in virtualbox - i run several VMs in virtualbox very well on my MBP
[05:12] <xubuntu947> i enter xubuntu in username and let the password blank after hitting enter it loads the desktop i have 4 options there one of them is install i wait for it to become responsive but it agains popups login menu
[05:13] <xubuntu947> any idea?
[05:13] <Unit193> Ubuntu and Xubuntu are pretty much the same, yeah.  Same underlaying system.
[05:13] <Unit193> xubuntu947: Well, that's sure not normal.
[05:13] <xubuntu947> well i have tried many linux distros but i am not getting success
[05:14] <xubuntu947> is there a way to install xubuntu before going for live mode?
[05:14] <danielmatt> Use an installer instead of a LiveCD
[05:15] <xubuntu947> have a link of that?
[05:15] <xubuntu947> i have not found it?
[05:15] <Unit193> Yes, when you boot it up there is a small icon at the bottom, hit left shift and a menu will pull up where you can choose to install.
[05:16] <Unit193> Or, when the image like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Ubiquity_installer.png/300px-Ubiquity_installer.png does.
[05:20] <xubuntu361> sorry guys network problem 947 back
[05:21] <xubuntu361> i have cliked on install xubuntu option
[05:21] <xubuntu361> now lets see what happens circle is circling right beneath the logo
[05:24] <xubuntu361> anyone here??
[05:24] <xubuntu361> ????????
[05:25] <cfhowlett> xubuntu361, I'm at the pub.  leave a message.
[05:26] <xubuntu361> is it normal of computer taking a time to load options when clicking on install without try option
[05:27] <xubuntu361> i have clicked on install option and after the loading it is showing white background and in the middle black colour  with nothing on it ..is it normal?
[08:54] <VanessaE> My machine (a desktop PC) hard-freezes when coming up from suspend.   Some cursory googling shows others with similar problems but a wide range of possible causes.  What do I do now?  Is there some log I can look at, or some utility I can run that'll tell me what's broke?
[08:54] <VanessaE> (this is 13.10, btw)
[08:55] <well_laid_lawn> is your swap larger than your memory ?
[08:55] <well_laid_lawn> ↓
[08:55] <VanessaE> I have no swap.
[08:55] <cfhowlett> VanessaE, that could be it ...
[08:55] <VanessaE> I'm using suspend-to-ram, not hibernate
[08:56] <VanessaE> With 16GB of RAM, I figure swap is...not necessary.
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> that was the extent of my knowledge, I just turn the box off
[09:00] <Mikk36> I'd still have some swap, just set the swappiness value to 0
[09:00] <Mikk36> so it would avoid using it whenever it can
[09:03] <VanessaE> mmmh
[09:04] <VanessaE> I should mention, the hdd LED stays lit solid when the machine is in this state.
[09:05] <VanessaE> every so often, it is able to resume, but only after several seconds (almost as long as it takes to boot normally)
[09:05] <VanessaE> where 'this state' == the hard-locked resume attempt.
[09:12]  * VanessaE tries switching to the fglrx-updates driver package...
[10:14] <marsupapu> I've dipped my toes to Xubuntu.
[10:15] <ObrienDave> !yay
[10:15] <marsupapu> And this is impressive.
[10:16] <ObrienDave> Хµþµптµ Яоск§
[10:18] <marsupapu> I've used Ubuntu since 7.04 but now they ruined my precious gnome. I tried KDE but it was way too heavy and it also kept lagging all the time. I even tried OpenSUSE KDE but it broke like twice a day. Now, with fresh Xubuntu install, I feel like home.
[10:18] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, ENGLISH moth ... oh.  Nevermind.
[10:18] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:18] <ObrienDave> LOL
[10:19] <ObrienDave> sorry about that, I just HAD to :))
[10:19]  * ObrienDave loves his Xubuntu
[10:20] <ObrienDave> How's that for English? ;)
[10:20] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, perfecto
[11:39] <codephobic> hi
[11:40] <baizon> !hi | codephobic
[11:59] <codephobic> is there a solution to the mouse-wheel scrolling problem in gEdit and in pdf viewer? Most applications seem to work fine with the mouse-wheel but gEdit & the pdf viewer (document viewer?) don't seem to even notice it scrolling.
[12:07] <codephobic> is there a solution to the mouse-wheel scrolling problem in gEdit and in pdf viewer? Most applications seem to work fine with the mouse-wheel but gEdit & the pdf viewer (document viewer?) don't seem to even notice it scrolling.
[12:08] <ObrienDave> !patience
[12:42] <MicroscopicDust> Hey everyone
[12:43] <MicroscopicDust> I need some help here, I'm stuck!
[12:43] <Myrtti> well, have you tried vaseline?
[12:43] <MicroscopicDust> lol, thanks for the tip, i'll try
[12:43] <Myrtti> seriously though
[12:43] <Myrtti> just ask the question
[12:44] <MicroscopicDust> I have a problem with ethernet
[12:44] <MicroscopicDust> on a Xubuntu 12.04 (Voyager)
[12:44] <ObrienDave> voyager???
[12:45] <MicroscopicDust> yep, It is basically a Xubuntu
[12:45] <Myrtti> that's a whole another distribution
[12:46] <MicroscopicDust> it is based on a xubuntu, i use it for years now, and always solve my problems by checking xubuntu solutions, but now I can't find anything
[12:46] <MicroscopicDust> the thing is I can't make ethernet work
[12:47] <MicroscopicDust> the chipset is an Atheros Qualcom QCA8171
[12:47] <cfhowlett> MicroscopicDust, we can't support it here.  ask on their channel
[12:48] <MicroscopicDust> are you serious?
[12:48] <MicroscopicDust> it is the same distro
[12:48] <MicroscopicDust> ah, forget it, I'm out
[12:49] <cfhowlett> voyager is not xubuntu.  xubuntu is an official canonical distro.
[12:58] <Myrtti> canonical or Canonical ;-)
[12:59] <cfhowlett> LOL.  Got me.  Canonical.
[12:59] <ObrienDave> wouldn't the "C" be considered SHOUTING? ;P
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !mark
[13:00] <ObrienDave> !42
[13:00] <cfhowlett> I always hear "C"anonical when he says it, so ...
[13:01] <Myrtti> cfhowlett: I wouldn't call any of the 'official' derivatives as Canonical ones, but that's a matter of opinion
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Myrtti, agreed.  I try to avoid religious debates like that.
[13:02] <ObrienDave> sports, politics and religion are best left out of IRC chat ;)
[13:03] <ObrienDave> oh, and Voyager ;P
[13:04] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, apparently so ...
[14:27] <audrey> xu bun tu
[14:28] <ObrienDave> Хµþµптµ Яоск§
[15:16] <koegs> audrey: are you trying to tell us something with your "xu bun tu" all the time?
[15:46] <ObrienDave> that they know how to separate syllables?
[18:42] <Gazeddy> anyone about
[18:42] <knome> !anyone | Gazeddy
[18:42] <Gazeddy> im in need of some sound help
[18:43] <Gazeddy> for some reason im getting no sound outputted volume control is showing "movement" with sound but im getting nothing from speakers or headphones
[18:51] <eitzei> What xubuntu are you using?
[19:24] <Sid1599> Hi, every1
[19:24] <Unit193> !hi
[19:24] <Sid1599> Using xubuntu/linux for the first time.
[19:26] <Sid1599> I have noticed that my external hdd gets renamed i.e. 1st start-up it was labelled/named abc and the next time abc1. I have
[19:27] <Sid1599> set-up torrents to download directly to the hdd(as abc), after the name change I have to change the directory/location again. Is there
[19:28] <Sid1599> any way this can be avoided?
[19:44] <audrey> xu bun tu
[19:44] <knome> audrey, do you have a support question?
[19:46] <knome> audrey, that's the fifth time you say "xu bun tu" without replying. if you don't stop that, i will need to remove you from the channel
[19:49] <Sid1599> Hmmm...no 1 in the mood to help an absolute noob. :(
[19:50] <audrey> yeah i have a question knome
[19:51] <knome> audrey, me too: why do you keep repeating "xu bun tu" ?
[19:51] <knome> audrey, please stop that.
[19:51] <audrey> xubuntu 13.10 amd64 gtx 670 nvidia 319. all three displays are recognized as "DISPLAY1" instead of DISPLAY1 DISPLAY2 and DISPLAY3.
[19:51] <audrey> have you ever heard of an issue like that before?
[19:51] <knome> no, i haven't
[19:51] <audrey> Sid1599: does that happen when you reboot or just in general
[19:52] <audrey> also what filesystem are you using
[19:53] <Sid1599> Hi audrey, after reboot. I am currently using a live stick with persistence. How can I check the filesystem?
[19:53] <audrey> Sid1599: i had that happen to me exactly once and it hasn't happened since. does the drive entry in /etc/fstab change when the drive gets renamed?
[19:53] <audrey> Sid1599: is this other hard drive you have plugged in an external hard drive?
[19:53] <audrey> also fdisk -l should tell you your partition filesystems
[19:53] <audrey> if it says "Linux" it's EXT*
[19:54] <audrey> knome: when i try to run three separate X servers only one display gets a picture as well.
[19:54] <Unit193> And I'd assume the card support something other than mirror mode?
[19:54] <Sid1599> Hmm...nothing shows up in terminal when I type fdisk -l
[19:55] <audrey> Unit193: GTX 670 of course it does~
[19:55] <Sid1599> The other part just went over my head :(
[19:55] <audrey> it can do four nonmirrored displays on one card.
[19:55] <Unit193> Just making sure.
[19:55] <audrey> Sid1599: sudo fdisk -l
[19:55] <Sid1599> oh ok
[19:55] <audrey> is the hdd you're tyring to use an external hard drive Sid1599 ?
[19:55] <audrey> Unit193: same thing happened iirc when i ran a gtx 570+8500 GT
[19:56] <Sid1599> yes, its external
[19:56] <audrey> it's probably NTFS
[19:56] <asdf_> just did an update on 13.10, bash tab completion no longer functioning in terminals, anyone else experience this?
[19:56] <audrey> uhhhhh check the entry for your external hard drive in /etc/fstab and next time you reboot look if it changes
[19:57] <audrey> Sid1599: are you using the same USB port every boot?
[19:57] <Unit193> In newer versions of Xubuntu, they get mounted under /media/name/UUID/
[19:57] <Sid1599> Yes, using the same port
[19:57] <elfy> it's likely that the external isn't in fstab
[19:57] <Sid1599> oh, how do I go about figuring it out?
[19:58] <audrey> we just told you :3
[19:58] <Unit193> asdf_: You can try to dpkg-reconfigure bash-completion  It still works for me.
[19:58] <audrey> check if your external hard drive has an entry in /etc/fstab
[19:58] <Sid1599> sudo /etc/fstab?
[19:58] <elfy> not really audrey - it's entirely possible that Sid1599 has no idea what you're saying
[19:59] <Sid1599> elfy is right, still trying to understand tho. :)
[19:59] <audrey> Sid1599: fstab is a file use a text editor
[19:59] <audrey> gedit and nano are good for beginners
[19:59] <audrey> sudo gedit /etc/fstab or sudo nano /etc/fstab
[19:59] <elfy> gedit isn't installed by default
[19:59] <elfy> Sid1599: use mousepad
[20:00] <audrey> elfy: i haven't used ubuntu since 2007
[20:00] <elfy> :)
[20:00] <audrey> i use xubuntu
[20:00] <elfy> ubuntu uses gedit - xubuntu doesn't - we have mousepad by default
[20:00] <audrey> Sid1599: when in nano for example if you see the hotkeys at the bottom you'll see shit like ^x ^c etc that ^ means hold control and press the key
[20:00] <Sid1599> am on xubuntu :)
[20:00] <audrey> elfy: i thought i was in #ubuntu
[20:00] <elfy> nope
[20:00] <elfy> #xubuntu
[20:00] <audrey> neat
[20:01] <audrey> so Sid1599 for example in nano to save a file it's ctrl+o then ctrl+x to quit the editor
[20:01] <Sid1599> ok got till nano
[20:01] <audrey> look and see if your partition has an fstab entry fdisk -l will tell you what the partition on your drive is eg /dev/sda1
[20:02] <Sid1599> how do i give the fdisk -l command in nano?
[20:03] <audrey> you don't
[20:03] <Sid1599> ?
[20:03] <audrey> i don't know if nano has a shell or not but just open a new tab in your terminal and run sudo fdisk -l so you can have that partition information visible
[20:04] <asdf_> Unit193: no joy, tried it, ctrl-i still works for bash-completion, but not tab
[20:06] <sid1599_> Sorry got disconnected
[20:07] <audrey> i'm sorry
[20:07] <xubuntu710> hello
[20:07] <sid1599_> I have the fdisk -l showing in one terminal window and nano open in the other.
[20:07] <audrey> okay
[20:08] <sid1599_> ha! why are you sorry audrey?
[20:09] <sid1599_> guessing I have been disconnected
[20:09] <sid1599_> :(
[20:10] <Unit193> asdf_: I think I had it break once, not sure what I did to fix it.  May have purged and installed it again, may have not had it installed.  Can you try another user and if it works there? (If it's something in your config)
[20:10] <audrey> sid1599_: did fstab hvae an entry
[20:10] <audrey> also weechat is horribly laggy or is it tmux idk
[20:10] <audrey> i dont know if my messages are even going through
[20:11] <elfy> they are
[20:15] <audrey> hi
[20:15] <elfy> hi
[20:15] <audrey> ssh is laggy at work today.
[20:15] <audrey> very very very ver yvery very laggy
[20:17] <audrey> did sid die
[20:17] <elfy> yep
[20:17] <elfy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/1644/mounting-a-usb-disk-in-a-permanent-location
[20:18] <elfy> will probably be what he needs to be looking at I think
[20:24] <asdf__> Unit193: disregard tab completion problem, update to baselayout released in the last few hours, did that, reboot, fixed.
[20:27] <Unit193> Hah, alrighty.
[21:08] <NuSuey> what does xubuntu use for sound settings? :o
[21:08] <Unit193> pavucontrol or the icon.
[21:11] <Sh1G3rU> pulse
[21:21] <NuSuey> well sadly no sound coming from the audio card.. which worked on lubuntu/ubuntu 13.10 for example :o hdmi output works
[21:21] <NuSuey> any ideas?
[21:23] <NuSuey> nvm, got it to work somehow.. took quite some time
[22:16] <NuSuey> how can I set what is my main monitor screen?
[22:17] <bosnjak> NuSuey: you can use Arandr
[22:21] <NuSuey> bosnjak: why arandr? and if I would use arandr.. how could I setup which I want to be the default monitor? :o the main scren on which the windows open
[22:22] <bosnjak> NuSuey: Arandr is a GUI frontend for xrandr, which allows you to set those things
[22:23] <NuSuey> yeah but .. how
[22:24] <bosnjak> NuSuey: you have two monitors?
[22:24] <NuSuey> 3:)
[22:25] <bosnjak> NuSuey: you are currently using Arandr, or not?
[22:25] <NuSuey> just want the 2nd monitor to be the primary
[22:25] <NuSuey> well I installed it now, but used the basic monitor setup from xubuntu to set them up first
[22:25] <NuSuey> but no clue how to setup one to be the primary monitor
[22:26] <bosnjak> NuSuey: ok so now you have 3 boxes that represent your monitors, right?
[22:26] <NuSuey> yup
[22:26] <bosnjak> NuSuey: order them in a way they are ordered physically to ensure the proper transition of course
[22:27] <NuSuey> they are :o my issue is to setup the primary monitor
[22:27] <bosnjak> NuSuey: i know, well get there :)
[22:30] <NuSuey> bosnjak: well.. ?
[22:30] <bosnjak> NuSuey: sorry, was busy a sec.. Save your configuration now to ./screenlayout/myconfig.h
[22:30] <bosnjak> NuSuey: actually myconfig.sh -> mind the extension
[22:31] <NuSuey> and then?
[22:32] <bosnjak> NuSuey: open that file with an editor: mousepad ~/.screenlayout/myconfig.sh
[22:33] <NuSuey> okay. and then?
[22:33] <bosnjak> NuSuey: you will see something like "--output LVDS1" for three different monitors
[22:33] <bosnjak> NuSuey: just add "--primary" next to the one you want
[22:34] <NuSuey> and then?:)
[22:34] <bosnjak> NuSuey: just one simple step
[22:34] <bosnjak> NuSuey: to make it work after reboot, go to Settings → Settings Manager → Session and Startup → Application autostart
[22:35] <bosnjak> NuSuey: and add a new item to the list
[22:35] <bosnjak> NuSuey: with following info:
[22:35] <bosnjak> NuSuey: Name: Monitor setup
[22:35] <bosnjak> NuSuey: Description: Whatever
[22:35] <bosnjak> NuSuey:
[22:35] <NuSuey> well I cant find a setting manager :o
[22:35] <bosnjak> are you using xubuntu?
[22:36] <NuSuey> yup
[22:36] <NuSuey> ah
[22:36] <NuSuey> wait
[22:36] <bosnjak> NuSuey: its right there in the menu, third item?
[22:37] <NuSuey> the setting was the name of the .. first thing.. okay :)
[22:37] <bosnjak> NuSuey: Sorry, maybe i could explain better
[22:37] <bosnjak> NuSuey: so the new item in the autostart list should be:
[22:37] <bosnjak> Name: Give it some name whatever
[22:37] <bosnjak> Description: whatever
[22:38] <bosnjak> Command: /home/<user>/.screenlayout/myconfig.sh
[22:38] <bosnjak> change <user> to your username ofcourse
[22:40] <bosnjak> NuSuey: done?
[22:41] <NuSuey> nah. need to do something first :o
[22:41] <bosnjak> ok
[22:45] <NuSuey> seems to be working :)
[22:45]  * NuSuey bows to bosnjak!
[22:45] <bosnjak> NuSuey: :)
[22:47] <NuSuey> reinstalled quite a lot of -buntu distributions lately.. but I have a feeling I might stick to xubuntu for quite some time :P
[22:48] <bosnjak> NuSuey: yes, me too. Was on KDE for a long time, but then went to xfce and never looked back. Its the best for me.
[22:49] <Magicantian> NuSuey: I feel the same way, i've jumped around on a lot of -buntus and other distros, Xubuntu works best for me, it's pretty much exactly what I was looking for.
[22:51] <NuSuey> tried elementary os, pretty nice stuff.. but I woul not get the awesome performance I would get from a 13.10 system with mesa 10 (or 9.2.X) and when I booted xubuntu for the first time, I just felt ..hey.. simple, nice.. not some stupid eyecandy or bloat like ubuntu with the unity stuff ..
[22:52] <Magicantian> ^ exactly, simple not stupid eyecandy or bloat. just enough like xp or older.
[22:53] <Magicantian> I liked Lubuntu a lot too but was having some issues with lxde and firefox running on this distro
[22:53] <Magicantian> that distro*
[22:58] <NuSuey> tried lubuntu.. but it was just just too basic for my taste..
[22:59] <NuSuey> but what's the difference here.. in xubuntu the sound output goes through alsa and not to pulseaudio then .. or something like that?
[23:03] <bosnjak> NuSuey: no, there is PulseAudio also by default
[23:04] <NuSuey> well dunno what did it, but on ubuntu and various other distros I had a HDMI issue.. and it didn't do the issue if the sound went right to alsa..
[23:04] <NuSuey> well.. got not such issue here ...so that's awesome
[23:16] <xubuntu161> jhkhkjhkjhl
[23:16] <Unit193> Yes?  Care to try English?
[23:18]  * Magicantian thinks xubuntu161 is playing with a speak and spell.
[23:22] <ObrienDave> or bored and tapping fingers on keyboard ;)