[09:23] <InformatiQ> good morning
[09:26] <noodles775> Morning InformatiQ :)
[09:29] <AskUbuntu> Installing and start using juju in ubuntu | http://askubuntu.com/q/380695
[09:30] <InformatiQ> this juju thing is threatning my job
[09:31] <noodles775> InformatiQ: heh - I was beginning to wonder when you sleep. I take it you're not yet able to use juju in your sysadmin roles?
[09:33] <InformatiQ> noodles775: i got excited about juju and was spending a few evening hours on it :)
[09:33] <InformatiQ> no i can't get it into my dayjob
[09:33] <InformatiQ> we are quite strict about what we use, change is not something that is liked around here
[09:33] <InformatiQ> and I still need to grasp it better
[09:34] <noodles775> Yep.
[09:41] <InformatiQ> noodles775: i get that you actuall do juju as dayjob
[09:42] <noodles775> InformatiQ: actually not... I do get to spend some time (probably around 15% of my time at the moment) working on the occasional charm, but that's about it. I'm just excited about juju+ansible :)
[09:43] <noodles775> Although, I do use juju in other work (like currently deploying openstack-swift+keystone using juju so I can work on some development stuff)
[10:38] <jamespage> marcoceppi, hey - I'm really struggling with the amulet package in the stable PPA
[10:38] <jamespage> its trying to run as python3 - is that right?
[10:47] <AskUbuntu> juju status machines 1 2 3 instance-id: pending forever | http://askubuntu.com/q/380716
[10:59] <AskUbuntu> OpenStack Havana with Juju/MAAS : no Quantum API server listening for requests | http://askubuntu.com/q/380718
[11:32] <marcoceppi> jamespage: yes, that's correct
[11:32] <jamespage> marcoceppi, the deps on the package are incorrect then
[11:32] <marcoceppi> jamespage: everyone scared me, saying trusty would come with py3 as default, so I figured I'd make amulet Python3
[11:32] <marcoceppi> I love messing up things
[11:33] <jamespage> I hit a syntax issue as well
[11:33] <jamespage> this was on saucy
[11:34] <marcoceppi> syntax error?
[12:17] <marcoceppi> jamespage: what syntax errors?
[12:18] <jamespage> marcoceppi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458233/
[12:19] <jamespage> marcoceppi, that might be me being dumb - hold the line
[12:20] <jamespage> yeah - the python3 thing was confusing me
[12:20] <jamespage> working OK now
[12:21] <marcoceppi> jamespage: cool, I'll have to figure out what I did wrong in packaging to get it to go to the proper python3 namespaces
[12:21] <marcoceppi> I'll fix that in the next release of amulet, should be coming out 2nd of dec
[12:24] <marcoceppi> jamespage: any suggestions? I followed what was on the appdev website: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/python-packaging.html#debian-rules
[12:24] <marcoceppi> jamespage: actually, I'll dig more myself and comeback if I can't figure it out
[12:24] <jamespage> marcoceppi, where is your packaging branch?
[12:24] <marcoceppi> jamespage: not uploaded, that would probalby help
[12:42] <marcoceppi> jamespage: lp:~marcoceppi/amulet/pkg I need to learn to use recipes, but that's the packaging I'm using
[12:44] <jamespage> marcoceppi, I don't think you should have moved to python3 - bzrlib does not support it yet
[12:45] <marcoceppi> jamespage: soo, I've made a mess
[12:45] <marcoceppi> jamespage: I'll pull back to py2 then
[12:45] <jamespage> marcoceppi, +1
[12:45] <marcoceppi> jamespage: thanks!
[12:46] <marcoceppi> makes packaging easier. I'll just do the future stuff for print, etc as to not undo all the work. I don't think I'm doing anything too terribly py3 specific
[15:26] <SuperMatt> marcoceppi: fyi, I've got my juju charm working, and now the relations are working perfectly! I'm sure I could have got this working yesterday, but I wasn't in the office :)
[15:48] <marcoceppi> SuperMatt: awesome! glad to see you've made progress
[15:48] <marcoceppi> How's it been so far?
[15:48] <marcoceppi> the whole charm thing
[15:49] <SuperMatt> I quite like it
[15:49] <SuperMatt> it's one of those things I could get in to
[15:55] <marcoceppi> SuperMatt: awesome!
[19:22] <InformatiQ> what's up guys
[19:24] <InformatiQ> this place is too quiet in general
[19:26] <sarnold> InformatiQ: the last week has been crazy for everyone, what with vUDS going on .. next week includes US federal holiday, so it may also be quieter than normal..
[19:26] <InformatiQ> so is everyone here US based?
[19:28] <sarnold> funny, I've never thought to ask :)
[19:28] <InformatiQ> heh
[19:41] <marcoceppi> InformatiQ: the Juju and Ecosystem team are spread out around the world
[19:42] <marcoceppi> we have members in the US, South America, Austrailia, and Europe