[00:30] <Alumin> the Kubuntu (12.04.3, alternate, 64-bit) installer is telling me it needs a firmware file (a ".ucode" file) for some of my hardware (judging by the filename, for wifi)
[00:30] <Alumin> I have retrieved the file it's asking for, put it on a second USB drive (the first is my installation media) and inserted it, but when I say "yes" to "do you want to load this file", it just thinks for a minute and goes back to the same question
[00:31] <Alumin> where do I need to put this .ucode file so that the installer will see it?
[00:37] <Alumin> ok that's odd...I pulled up a different virtual console and for some reason the system was failing to mount my (MSDOS partition table with a 64GB FAT32 partition/filesystem) thumb drive
[00:38] <Alumin> I manually mounted it at /media (with simply "mount /dev/sdc1 /media", which worked fine) and went back to the installer, hit return...victory!
[00:40] <Alumin> *sigh* unfortunately, still no WPA2-Enterprise support, so I can't connect.  I do have wpa_supplicant at the shell, but can I bring up the wifi manually in such a way that the installer will use it without having configured it itself?
[00:42] <Alumin> nope, the installer's wpa_supplicant build doesn't support PEAP
[00:42] <sithlord48> Alumin: if you have wifi when you run the installer you have wifi for the installer
[00:43] <Alumin> ok
[00:43] <Alumin> so I guess that makes the question, can I get wifi?  heh
[00:44] <sithlord48> if you can do it via the cli. if not a wire is good (if possible)
[00:45] <Alumin> yeah, this whole performance is to try and avoid snarfing one of my coworkers' network jacks
[00:46] <Alumin> yeah, I'm not sure I can do it via the CLI.  I commented out "eap=PEAP" in my wpa_supplicant config file and that got it to start without errors, but it's still not connecting
[00:46] <Alumin> presumably because that functionality is, y'know, necessary.  :)
[00:46] <sithlord48> using iwconfig?
[00:48] <sithlord48> Alumin:  if your using iwconfig are you also remembering to run dhclient on the interface afterwards?
[00:50] <Alumin> maaaaaaaybe :)
[00:50] <Alumin> ok, so that was part of the problem...but I'm also having this problem:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899352
[01:01] <sithlord48> Alumin:  that one im not so sure about
[01:02] <Alumin> yeah, me either
[01:02] <Alumin> y'know, you'd think by 2013 this sort of thing would be a bad memory
[01:04] <sithlord48> Alumin:  is there a reason you don't use the normal installer?
[01:04] <Alumin> three, actually
[01:04] <sithlord48> Alumin:  im using wpa2 for my network and iwconfig "just works" when i give it the info
[01:05] <Alumin> first, because it doesn't have any wifi support at all in the installer
[01:05] <sithlord48> that being said i have not used the alternate installer in a long time
[01:05] <Alumin> second, no support for encrypting the entire disk (just /home)
[01:05] <Alumin> third, no LVM support
[01:05] <Alumin> yeah, if I had regular WPA2-PSK I'm sure I'd be fine
[01:05] <Alumin> unfortunately this is WPA2-Enterprise
[01:06] <sithlord48> 1. use the try kubuntu option and connect then click the installer on the desktop
[01:06] <Alumin> I'd rather not do that...I don't know enough about full-disk encryption to set it up myself after the fact
[01:06] <Alumin> although that's good to know you can do that...hadn't thought of that
[01:06] <sithlord48> and iirc last time i installed on my laptop i did use LVM encryption as an checkable option
[01:07] <sithlord48> durring set up let me runn the installer in a vm and check that for you
[01:07] <Alumin> thanks, but don't spend any more time on it
[01:07] <Alumin> I'm fixin' to go home for the day :)
[01:07] <sithlord48> ah but i see your using 12.04 . it might be in 12.10 it was added or 13.04
[01:08] <sithlord48> either way good luck with it .
[01:08] <Alumin> thanks
[01:08] <Alumin> I'm just gonna hijack my cube neighbour's Ethernet jack when I come in in the morning
[01:08] <Alumin> :P
[01:08] <sithlord48> lol
[01:09] <Alumin> well
[01:09] <Alumin> that or just install without the network and get my updates later
[01:09] <Alumin> which at this point I probably should have just done
[01:09] <sithlord48> i find its easer to just do it all at onece
[01:09] <Alumin> yeah, that was my thinking
[01:09] <sithlord48> and either way you still have updates when you reboot some times
[01:09] <Alumin> WPA2-Enterprise is a real pain point...for me, at least
[01:10] <Alumin> the only way I've ever been able to get it working is by running wpa_supplicant directly from the command line
[01:10] <Alumin> never been able to get knetworkmanager or wicd to talk to it
[01:10] <sithlord48> that is weird.
[01:11] <Alumin> luckily I don't have to wifi much at work
[01:11] <Alumin> when I'm at home on WPA2-PSK it's fine
[01:11] <Alumin> and every other WAP I use
[01:12] <Alumin> just doesn't work at work 'cause we have -Enterprise here
[01:13] <Alumin> anyway, thanks for thinking about it anyway
[01:13] <Alumin> I actually did remember I had to run dhclient manually, but only a split-second before you mentioned it :P
[01:47] <kkkkkk> hi ,all, i am using kde 4.11.2 and upgraded from 4.8.5 and dolphin is asking for password everytime i tried to mount drive. how to solve that, i have also GNOME desktop installed and nautilus is not asking for password, so policy kit  rules are right there, what could be the problem? i have seen many bug reports but didn't find the effective solution, how to solve that
[01:47] <kkkkkk> i have ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:14] <kkkkkk> any idea when 4.11.3 will be available to ubuntu
[02:14] <kkkkkk> kde 4.11.3 is not showing in updates
[02:14] <kkkkkk> and i am using  4.11.2 and it is buggy
[02:18] <kkkkkk> i suspect, i need to re-install the system, but i am looking for a solution
[02:22] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: it's available in the kubuntu-updates PPA for saucy
[02:23] <tsimpson> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[02:31] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: really, kde 4.11.3 is available, i added once and only 4.11.2 is available http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu
[02:34] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: 4.11.3 for Saucy is in the updates PPA, 4.11.3 for Raring is in the backports PPA
[02:42] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: i am using LTS, precise
[02:42] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: i went for breakfast, sorry for late reply
[02:44] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: in that case I think 4.11.2 is the highest version available
[02:45] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: i read somewhere in the forums that 4.11.3 will be shown on kubuntu website news and there is no news so far
[02:47] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: yes, but 4.11.2 is the latest available for precise
[02:48] <tsimpson> it was announced as available in October
[03:53] <Nilabhra> hey guys need help here, I am having probs viewing photos in facebook from kubuntu, most image are not coming, I tried tracerouting to their url, says unknwon host, I checked the hosts file too all okay... tried both firefox and rekonq ... my winodws is is loading the pcis all fine
[03:53] <Nilabhra> ^ anyone?
[09:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:09] <Taduro> What amount of memory my system is using → http://susepaste.org/55638429
[10:09] <Taduro> What I'm doing → http://susepaste.org/30242002
[10:09] <Taduro> Please, don't tell me again about the disk cache because this is not that.
[10:11] <lordievader> Taduro: Can you pastebin the output of "free -m"?
[10:12] <Taduro> lordievader: http://susepaste.org/23686763
[10:14] <lordievader> Taduro: As you can see 1500Mb is used for cache. So yes, it is cache.
[10:14] <lordievader> Taduro: 112Mb is actual unused and free.
[10:16] <Taduro> lordievader: But when I open one more app, the computer freezs
[10:16] <apachelogger> Taduro: you again have no cache
[10:17] <apachelogger> eh, swap
[10:17] <apachelogger> swap is off again
[10:17] <apachelogger> also I think some plasma applet may be leaking memory
[10:17] <lordievader> Might also be faulty memory.
[10:19] <lordievader> Taduro: And as apachelogger suggests swap is usefull for a 2Gb machine. You quickly run out of memory and then you will get OOM-killers if you don't have swap.
[10:21] <Taduro> apachelogger: you know I enabled it the other day :S
[10:21] <Taduro> I don't undertand that.
[10:21] <apachelogger> not permanently it seems :P
[10:22] <apachelogger> you'll have to add the partition to /etc/fstab
[10:22] <lordievader> Taduro: Is there a line for swap in /etc/fstab?
[10:22] <apachelogger> something along the line of `/dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0`
[10:22] <apachelogger> replace sda2 with the parititon id of your swap
[10:22] <Taduro> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[10:22] <Taduro> UUID=66c2ddbb-58f0-4b4b-972d-39da0290a165 none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:23] <lordievader> Taduro: Is that the correct UUID?
[10:25] <Taduro> from lshw → http://susepaste.org/88299287
[10:25] <Taduro> lordievader: I don't know how to check if is the correct UUID
[10:25] <lordievader> Taduro: Does the UUID from this command "blkid `fdisk -l|grep swap|cut -d" " -f1`" match the one in /etc/fstab?
[10:27] <Taduro> /dev/sda5: UUID="80efe315-3d51-460c-a295-8cbf4adc829d" TYPE="swap"
[10:27] <Taduro> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[10:27] <Taduro> UUID=66c2ddbb-58f0-4b4b-972d-39da0290a165 none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:27] <Taduro> lordievader: nope
[10:28] <lordievader> Taduro: Ok, then change the UUID line in /etc/fstab with the one you just got from the blkid command and reboot.
[10:28] <lordievader> Taduro: Swap should then be mounted correctly.
[10:29] <Taduro> Let's see, thank you very much.
[10:29]  * Taduro is going to reboot!
[10:58] <Taduro> I'm here again :)
[10:58] <Taduro> Do you guys know when kubuntu starts using swap?
[11:03] <lordievader> Taduro: When it is running out of ram. Could you pastebin the output of "free -m" again?
[11:04] <Taduro> yes lordievader http://susepaste.org/16879972
[11:04] <lordievader> Taduro: Your swap is enabled :)
[11:05] <tsimpson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq should help explain
[11:15] <Taduro> I'm going to try if it freezes now..
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:45] <Avihay> I have annoying stuttering in flash. it starts after a long while when the computer is on, and it seemed to happen only in flash, and it seemed to intensify over time. I tried killing all flash instances, but tit didn't solve the problem, only a reboot did
[13:47] <Avihay> I started plaing FTL, and noticed it would crash without warning, and that the crashes correlated to when I start having flash problems. ran it in the terminal, and FTL complained about mixing base sounds
[13:47] <Avihay> well, I can 1+1=4 like the next guy
[13:48] <apachelogger> that doesn't sound right
[13:48] <Avihay> so I @ pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start    and all the problems are solved
[13:49] <apachelogger> well, since both flash and ftl are propietary software I am not sure how we can help
[13:50] <apachelogger> maybe report the issue to the pulseaudio people
[13:50] <Avihay> apachelogger: one of my math teachers proved to the class that 1+1=4 , with no apparent mistakes, so restarting pulse it is
[13:51] <apachelogger> that doesn't sound right either :P
[13:51] <Avihay> I wasn't requesting help, I was posting it here for anyone who might encounter a similar flash stuttering
[13:52] <Avihay> yhe, stuttering videos really don't sound right
[13:52] <apachelogger> well, seeing as IRC is non-peristent and knowing about the issue doesn't make it go away in the long run I stand by my suggestion reporting it to pulseaudio
[16:40] <eagles0513875_> hey guys how can i get sftp in dolphin to work with an ssh key?
[16:42] <eugene-chan> hello. can anyone help? How to listen internet radio in Kubuntu? what program? :)
[16:44] <crowell> eugene-chan: amarok
[16:44] <crowell> Playlist->Add stream
[16:44] <eugene-chan> crowell Thanks... :)
[16:45] <eugene-chan> i wish a program with pre-installed 1000+ radio streams. It exist? :)
[16:45] <crowell> I don't know, why don't you make a list and an installer :-)
[16:46] <eugene-chan> oh... i'm starter user only
[16:48] <soee> eugene-chan, you can find a lot of plugins for Amarok that provides list of radio station from selected country for example
[16:49] <eugene-chan> Thank you ^___^
[16:49] <soee> eugene-chan, where are you from ?
[16:49] <eugene-chan> Russia
[16:50] <soee> well check http://kde-apps.org/?xsection=home
[16:51] <soee> and search for radio stations :)
[16:52] <eugene-chan> :)
[19:05] <ezra-s> is there something better and more complete than ARK for a compression tool in kde?
[19:07] <lordievader> ezra-s: What are you missing? For as far as I know is ARK just a gui around tar, unrar or gzip.
[19:07] <ezra-s> lordievader, encryption
[19:08] <ezra-s> lordievader, you can use many other formats to compress if you hit "new" in ark
[19:08] <lordievader> ezra-s: unrar should be capable of that.
[19:08] <ezra-s> lordievader, I was refering to GUI tool for KDE
[19:08] <BluesKaj> tar should as well
[19:08] <ezra-s> sorry for not being specific
[19:09] <ezra-s> it's not that I even need it now really someone asked in #ubuntu and I got curious since I see ark as no encryption options
[19:10] <lordievader> ezra-s: Oh, no idea in that case.
[19:10] <ezra-s> mmm, it's surprising
[19:10] <BluesKaj> encryption and compression are different of course
[19:10] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, I agree
[19:11] <ezra-s> it's just that some compression tools allow encryption
[19:11] <BluesKaj> yes , but why bother , it was fine when space was at a premium
[19:12] <ezra-s> ?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> compression that is
[19:12] <ezra-s> ohh, hehehe, just curiosity
[19:12] <ezra-s> since KDE is always full of options everywhere, it really surprised me see such a simple compression gui tool
[19:13] <ezra-s> wondered about the options
[19:13] <ezra-s> maybe I was missing on the most used tool out there for kde users
[19:13] <crowell> ark can't do encryption?
[19:13] <ezra-s> crowell, If it can I haven't found it :P
[19:14] <BluesKaj> ezra-s. we see so many ppl get into trouble with encryption mistakes , to me it's almost a dangerous practice
[19:14] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, that sounds really weak
[19:14] <crowell> ezra-s: for extracting or compressing?
[19:14] <ezra-s> crowell, compressing
[19:15] <ezra-s> extracting it can
[19:15] <crowell> ezra-s: trying to do what format?
[19:15] <ezra-s> crowell, any
[19:15] <ezra-s> crowell, take your pick
[19:15] <crowell> I just use the cli utilities :/
[19:15] <ezra-s> crowell, me too :)
[19:15] <ezra-s> but, aren't you guys surprised?
[19:16] <ezra-s> I'm not really complaining or anything
[19:16] <crowell> I'm a bit surprised
[19:17] <ezra-s> anyways, no biggie, most times it's best to use command line
[19:18] <BluesKaj> ezra-s. weak , how ? perhaps you haven't seen the numbers of ppl with encryption troubles on the various support chats on freenode
[19:18] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, which encryption troubles you mean? like SSL? :P RSA? DH?
[19:19] <ezra-s> like in
[19:19] <BluesKaj> encrypted drives especially
[19:19] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, ecryptfs is more annoying
[19:19] <crowell> more like ecraptfs amirite
[19:20] <ezra-s> I use truecrypt here at work, never a problem
[19:20] <crowell> truecrypt containers or the entire drive?
[19:20]  * ezra-s shocks
[19:20] <ezra-s> did I say truecrypt?
[19:20] <ezra-s> :O
[19:20] <BluesKaj> dunno which encrypt apps are used , i just see them asking for help
[19:22] <ezra-s> sorry I do apologize I meant LUKS
[19:22] <ezra-s> full disk encryption, with LVM and all
[19:22] <Erthe> ezra-s: You should add encryption capabilities to Ark and submit them.  :D
[19:22] <ezra-s> see? no problems at all I even forgot its name :P
[19:23] <ezra-s> Erthe, I have no problem with ark being as it is, I said I wasn't complaining, I was just surprised since everything in KDE has so many options to configure
[19:23] <ezra-s> it all came from someone else asking in another channel and I got curious
[19:23] <Erthe> ezra-s: I understand that, but I'd like to see some encryption options too  :)
[19:24] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, problem comes when you forget the password or masterkey ;)
[19:24] <BluesKaj> ezra-s. no kidding :)
[19:24] <ezra-s> it happened to me once with ecryptfs
[19:24] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[19:24] <ezra-s> changed the password from root and...
[19:27] <ezra-s> Erthe, I use cli 7z
[19:27] <ezra-s> works good
[20:01] <Crisis> i tried to turn on the energy saving - kde control module, but i get an error "Power Management configuration modeule could not be loaded
[20:01] <Crisis> anyone have any ideas
[20:04] <Crisis> ?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Crisis. make sure you have powermgmt-base and upower installed
[20:04] <Crisis> anyway to check that ?
[20:05] <Erthe> Just try to install them
[20:05] <Erthe> sudo apt-get install powermgmt-base upower
[20:06] <Crisis> says i already have them
[20:14] <Crisis> any ideas ?
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> I disabled my bluetooth usinf Fn+F2. Enabled it back. Now it doesn't detect my mouse. :( tried sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> no effect
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> please advise
[20:34] <Crisis> new error unable to contact kded
[20:34] <Crisis> any ideas ?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> Crisis. have you updated/upgraded lateky ?
[20:37] <Crisis> i did a new install yesterday and performed updates as well
[20:38] <BluesKaj> Crisis. , no ideas , sorry
[21:46] <MrSelfDestruct> Can someone help me learn how to use IRC?
[21:46] <MrSelfDestruct> I know this is not the right channel for this kind of question--I am infering--but this is something I should have learned a long time ago...
[21:47] <JohnDoe_1> MrSelfDestruct: Take a look here: http://freenode.net/
[22:38]  * ronnoc is having Kwin issues again with ATI proprietary drivers
[22:38] <ronnoc> Anyone else?
[22:39] <apachelogger> ronnoc: kwin developer said to not use the poprietary drivers
[22:39] <apachelogger> I am left presuming that they don't work well :P
[22:39] <ronnoc> apachelogger:  tell Steam that :p
[22:40] <ronnoc> are you at the sprint?
[23:17] <keithzg> Hmm. I can't seem to get KDE Connect to see my computer here at work. And unfortunately it's one of those things that's supposed to "just work" so there's no way to manually set it up . . .
[23:18] <keithzg> Is it perhaps choking on the VPN?