[03:16] <sam113101> why does the lockscreen always turns off my monitors?
[03:47] <ph> sam113101, it shouldn't turn off the monitors. should just blank them
[03:48] <ph> sam113101, it does with mine at any rate.
[03:53] <sam113101> ph: well, it stops sending a signal, so my monitors say they're not plugged in
[03:53] <sam113101> (the LED is flashing, etc.)
[03:53] <sam113101> it's a bit annoying IMO
[03:54] <sam113101> I'd like to see the lock screen with the time of the day
[03:54] <sam113101> and maybe I'd change the background to darker one so it doesn't light up the entire room
[03:54] <sam113101> to a*
[06:11] <ph> sam113101, sorry was afk for a bit - yeah that could be the power settings have you checked those at all? The lock screen is under privacy and then the sleep side of things is under power
[06:13] <sam113101> ph: checked them both, it's really the lockscreen
[06:51] <darkxst> sam113101, monitors are intentionally put into power saving mode when you lock the screen
[06:52] <darkxst> perhaps there is an extension to disable that
[06:57] <sam113101> that's one thing I don't like about gnome 3, you can't easily personalize what you want (unless you download tweak tool, still…)
[07:10] <ph> sam113101, even with gnome-tweak-tool you can't really personalise that much anyway
[07:12] <ph> darkxst, ah ok I see now, my smart tv doesn't have the DPMS settings so that's why it's not powering off when the screen is locked yeah?
[07:13] <darkxst> ph most likely
[07:22] <ph> darkxst, how do i debug pyton apps from cli? I just installed g-t-t 3.10.1 and it's not running and no errors on the cli
[07:23] <ph> 3.10.0 worked fine, but this one won't start
[07:23] <sam113101> ph: I know, that sucks…
[07:25] <ph> sam113101, only way to tweak g-s is manually hacking code, g-t-t, extensions, and themes. Personally I'd love to see the options for tweaking or personalising certain things in one location, but that's doubtful
[07:32] <darkxst> ph, is it crashing?
[07:33] <ph> it doesn't run and no errors when i run it from the cli
[07:33] <darkxst> if so there are python extensions for gdb
[07:33] <darkxst> py-bt or something like that
[07:34] <ph> ah ok - does it report in any log files at all?
[07:34] <darkxst> no you need to manually run python under gdb
[07:34] <darkxst> or you can also try `gnome-tweak-tool -d`
[07:35] <ph> with -d it says: DEBUG   : Schema not translated org.gnome.shell (domain: gnome-shell)
[07:35] <ph> DEBUG   : Caching gsettings: <gtweak.gsettings._GSettingsSchema: org.gnome.shell>
[07:35] <ph> DEBUG   : Shell version: [3, 10, 1]
[07:35] <ph> and stops at that point
[07:39] <ph> darkxst, what command should i use to run it within gdb?
[07:43] <ph> darkxst, I get these errors in gnome-session.log http://pastebin.com/T7hPMDsi
[07:48] <ph> this file it's looking for /usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.desktop.input-sources.gschema.xml actually lives in /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnome.desktop.input-sources.gschema.xml
[07:48] <darkxst> ph, are you running -staging?
[07:49] <ph> yep
[07:49] <darkxst> hmm, file a bug
[07:49] <darkxst> I have to run
[07:49] <darkxst> but that missing schema is the problem
[07:50] <darkxst> (it works fine here though)
[07:51] <ph> I have the schema it's in /usr/share not in /usr/local/share where g-t-t is looking
[07:51] <ph> darkxst, anyways no worries
[07:52] <ricotz> ph, don't file a bug since it is your fault ;)
[07:52] <ph> ricotz, lol how is it my fault :P
[07:53] <ricotz> manually installing things (without using the proper prefix)
[07:54] <ph> I just removed gnome-tweak-tool, and rebuilt it with the /usr prefix but that didn't fix it
[07:54] <ricotz> ph, them same error?
[07:55] <ph> yeah
[07:55] <ph> it still looking for that file under /usr/local/share
[07:55] <ricotz> then really clean the source dir
[07:55] <ph> like wipe it and reclone it?
[07:56] <ricotz> git reset --hard origin/master
[07:56] <ricotz> git clean -dxf
[07:56] <ph> ok i'll give that a go hangon
[08:04] <ph> ricotz, it's giving me these errors now http://pastebin.com/tH9cjMNC
[08:04] <ph> ricotz, but gtweak isn't in /usr/local/lib it's under /usr/lib
[08:13] <ricotz> ph, works here
[08:14] <ricotz> ph, uploaded 3.10.1 to the saucy pocket of staging
[08:14] <ph> ricotz, lol ok I'll try an update and pull that version and see if it works for me
[08:17] <ph> ricotz, can you provide me a link to the package you built?
[08:17] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+sourcepub/3676221/+listing-archive-extra
[08:17] <ph> ricotz, also how are you building packages so quickly? I use checkinstall, but it seems to include a lot of 'extras' when it builds the packages
[08:19] <ph> ricotz, is this the file i download https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3-staging/+files/gnome-tweak-tool_3.10.1.orig.tar.xz
[08:19] <ph> ricotz, also does it matter if I'm on x64?
[08:19] <ricotz> ph, wait for the deb to be built
[08:20] <ph> ricotz, ah ok I see sorry
[08:20] <ricotz> and checkinstall won't give your the same as a proper deb package
[08:20] <ph> so what should I be using instead of checkinstall?
[08:21] <ricotz> the packaging you can find there too
[08:21] <ricotz> dget *.dsc
[08:21] <ricotz> update it to the favoured upstream version and use a pbuilder or just debuild
[08:25] <ph> but things like pulling apps from git source like pygobject for example - how can i build a package that doesn't exist in the ubuntu repos for example
[08:33] <ph> ricotz, ok a reboot is all that was needed. It's working fine now
[08:34] <ph> looking at the checkinstall package and the .deb that you built - your's is 123kb and the checkinstall package is 3.5MB
[08:38] <ph> ricotz, so obviously I went with your one ;)
[08:39] <ph> ricotz, generally for ubuntu packages they should be configured with prefix=/usr correct?
[08:40] <ricotz> ph, 3.5mb o.O, the normal make install is 1.3mb here
[08:40] <ricotz> normally yes. to have them look at the right places
[08:41] <ricotz> g2g
[08:41] <ph> ricotz, yeah i don't know what checkinstall is doing, why it includes all this extra crap. So that's why I was asking the method you use. But checkinstall allows easy package creation from packages that don't have ubuntu dsc etc in them
[08:42] <ph> ricotz, ok no worries - thanks for the help
[16:55] <TehRaij> hi there, i just downloaded and installed 13.10 gnome edition. i love the new way that gnome classic is going, but I need to make some teaks for my preferences. How do I edit and/or remove panels? I am not a fan of the double panel thing, and all of the old right click/alt right click/super alt right click key combos don't have any effect, and I'm not having any luck finding the right menu selection. Can anyone point me in the di
[16:59] <someuser> hello
[17:27] <TehRaij> hm, ok then. maybe not. Can anyone tell me how to kill the bottom panel and move the top panel to the bottom in 13.10 classic?
[23:03] <TehRaij> nice chatting with you guys
[23:03] <TehRaij> helpful