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Torikunyo16:50
bkerensaraevol: If you use HULU, Netflix, Any Network/Cable Connect DVR your viewing preferences and remote control use is logged and sent to Rentrak19:22
bkerensathey build up a profile on you and then resell it to tv networks and advertisers19:23
bkerensaso the LG smart tv is not much spying in the grand scheme of things ;)19:23
bkerensaoh and they are plugged into gaming (Xbox Live, PSN, Various Game Publishers)19:24
bkerensahttp://www.rentrak.com/section/movies_and_tv_everywhere/about_movies_and_tv_everywhere.html19:24
bkerensa:)19:24
darthrobotTitle: [About Movies & TV Everywhere | Rentrak]19:24
* bkerensa has a few friends who work there and I'm amazed by the data they collect ;)19:25
raevolhaha19:27
raevolgood thing i just don't watch TV19:27
raevolor own any consoles19:27
raevolSteam probably collects my gaming habits, but all they'll know is that i barely have time to game and wish i could game mor19:27
raevolmore*19:27
bkerensaimho I don't care if networks know that I watch too much treys anatomy19:28
bkerensagreys*19:28
bkerensaor Sons of Anarchy or any other show19:28
akkTV networks don't advertise per-customer, though, do they? Or have things changed that much since I stopped having TV?19:43
raevoli dunno, for me it's less what they do or don't do with the data, but instead that they even have the data and could do all kinds of things with it19:44
raevolbut there's a lot to the subject... anyway19:45
akkYeah, so much for "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product" -- since even if you're paying, you're still the product.19:47
raevolhaha yea19:48
raevolit's just up to us to fight back19:48
raevolencryption, alternative distribution, non-consumerism, etc19:48
akkI don't think I'm willing to stop renting movies to fight back against that.19:54
raevolyou don't have to stop watching movies to stop using invasive distribution services :P21:12
pleia2hulu does targeted advertising per customer (on the web version there's even an "is this ad relevant to you?" button for some commercials)21:17
blitzjust don't ever answer22:03
akkraevol: What's the alternative? Illegal bittorrent downloading?22:09
akkAny rental service will know what we rent.22:10
raevolyou can see movies in a theater22:10
raevolyou can buy dvds22:10
raevolyou can watch them at friend's houses22:11
raevolthere's lots of things to do22:11
akkThe first two cost orders of magnitude more ... guess I'm too poor/cheap to choose privacy. :)22:12
akkwell, an order of magnitude, not plural orders22:12
raevolmaybe you should spend less time watching netflix and more time making money then :P hahaha22:13
raevolyou're complaining about the cost of a leisure activity22:13
akkWe watch (some part of) a movie nearly every night. And I'm pretty happy with that model, for now.22:15
akkso, oh well, someone tracks what we watch ... I really don't see an easy way to avoid that.22:15
raevolyea i guess it just depends on what's important to you22:18

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