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rick_h_morning14:06
rick_h_heh, funny to see this in the JS weekly newsletter http://nathanleclaire.com/blog/2013/11/16/the-javascript-question-i-bombed-in-an-interview-with-a-y-combinator-startup/14:07
rick_h_seems something like https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/static/js/bookie/tagcontrol.js#L464 :)14:07
cmaloneyheh14:09
cmaloneyrick_h_: You're Y-combinator-startup-ready.14:09
rick_h_heh, I remember when I worked on that and took me a bit to get it right14:09
cmaloneyTo the HACKERNEWSMOBILE14:09
rick_h_hah!14:10
rick_h_I was thinking "All problems in all things occur in the Bookie universe!"14:10
cmaloneyYeah, because Bookie isn't a Todolist. ;)14:10
cmaloneyAnd isn't JQuery-padded14:11
rick_h_hah, it's not a todo list...yet!14:11
cmaloneyBookieList here we come14:11
rick_h_now that does sound like a betting website14:14
waftouch /srv/root/http/remember-to-buy-groceries14:31
wafbookmark that; todo list implemented.14:31
rick_h_:P14:31
brouschI want to turn it into a todo list, but rick_h_ wouldn't let me14:45
rick_h_I never let brousch do anything fun14:45
brouschBookmark things with a todo tag, then remove the tag when it's done14:45
rick_h_crap, bookie is just a todo app! curses!14:46
brouschI still need something for my To-Read, To-Watch, and To-Listen lists like that14:46
rick_h_heh, dr who game in the google doodle on the uk site14:58
jrwrenlook at this BEAST https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/kudp115:00
rick_h_yea, still no 12 or 13 laptop15:01
rick_h_I think they're confused on where the market is today15:01
jrwrenagree.15:09
jrwrenthen again, they are such a niche market, that it may be the case that of ubuntu laptop buyers, many want a beast.15:09
jrwrenthat thing is actually awesome. I speced one out, with 2 - 1TB AND a 240G mSata and 16G ram, and the smallest i7, it was only $160015:10
jrwrenthat is A LOT of laptop for the price.15:10
rick_h_heh, well come to a canonical sprint and you'll see 2/100 tanks like that15:23
rick_h_40% thinkpad x2XX, 40% 13/12/11 macs, and 20% system 76, xps13, misc. And I can't think of many 17" ones in that group at all15:24
rick_h_ok, wtf...I just got an email from sourceforge that I've been selected to get a free 'Popular Science' magazine?!15:24
jrwrenrick_h_: i hope you don't think that canonical sprinters are representative of all ubuntu users.15:26
rick_h_well it's a heavy ubuntu population :P15:26
rick_h_but yea, understand15:26
jrwrenand hopefully a tiny sliver tiny fraction of the ubuntu population15:26
cmaloneyrick_h_: Please forward that to me. I'd like to see it (the email)15:44
rick_h_cmaloney: forwarded15:48
cmaloneytx15:55
jsivakrick_h_: I'm looking at the Lenovo x230; you find any issues / problems with yours?16:28
cmaloneyjsivak: Looking to downgrade the tank?16:30
jsivaklooking for a smaller footprint (especially useful when travelling), but x230 *does* come with 16G of RAM. :)16:32
cmaloneyIs that a datacenter in your man-purse or are you just happy to see me? :)16:33
jsivakThat's no moon..   that's my laptop!16:34
rick_h_jsivak: I've got no issues other than the screen res16:34
jsivakYeah, I saw the 1366 x 768.. didn't like that part.16:35
rick_h_the x240 with the higher res is rumored to be coming out next month16:35
jsivakOh really..16:35
rick_h_so I'll be watching that, but other than that, no complaints16:35
cmaloneymy laptop has it's own gravitational pull, and the CPU fan has been known to cause weather patterns to shift uncontrollably.16:35
jsivakrick_h_: this one? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x240/16:35
cmaloneyHasn't the x240 been the proverbial white whale laptop?16:35
jsivak.. it still has 1366x768.. :(16:36
rick_h_jsivak: http://www.designntrend.com/articles/8791/20131029/lenovo-thinkpad-x240-specs-price-release-info-touchscreen-edition-pushed-laptop-ultrabook.htm16:36
rick_h_jsivak: right, thus the 'Dec' rumor16:36
cmaloneyblergh16:36
cmaloneystats or it didn't happen. ;)16:37
greg-gugh, I'm not liking the new body on that ;/16:37
greg-g:/16:37
cmaloneyYeah, that's looking mighty cheap.16:37
cmaloneyAnd the angle makes the touchpad look like it's falling out of the computer16:37
cmaloneylike someone dropped it16:38
jsivakhmm.. can't get 16G on the x240.16:38
jsivakthough at home I'd be hooking it up to a 22+" monitor.. so the 1366x768 res may not be *that* bad.16:39
jsivakmy main issue is trying to use the t520 on a plane.. almost impossible.16:39
jsivakPlus, I'm trying to find an excuse to buy a new laptop so I can give my current one to my youngest daughter for Xmas16:40
rick_h_yea, I've got a pair of docsk if you want one16:43
rick_h_jsivak: that lets you do dual display out from the laotp16:43
rick_h_laptop16:43
rick_h_I don't use them now that I've got the desktop16:43
greg-gwiat wait....16:43
greg-ga pair? for what?16:43
greg-gwhich model?16:43
rick_h_x230, 22016:44
greg-gprobably not compat with my x200s16:44
greg-g:(16:44
* greg-g looks16:44
greg-gyeah, probably not16:44
greg-ghttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0047EGO6E/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=116:45
greg-gwhats in my cart waiting to hit buy on16:45
rick_h_yea, I've used them for years as I've been laptop only16:46
greg-gme too, I've just been.... dumb16:47
greg-gmostly, it's so I can have the displayport for higher res external monitor16:47
rick_h_yea, I did displayport->DVI and DVI out16:48
rick_h_and now with the desktop I just use three displays on one machine bwuhahahaha16:48
rick_h_jsivak: so yea, if you're looking up upgrade I'd wait and see if the unicorn shows up next month16:48
rick_h_jsivak: but no issues here with my x230 and still love it and all.16:49
rick_h_jsivak: it'll do dual ssd (msata as a second one) so love the space, performance, etc16:49
greg-gI dislike the x230 keyboard, for what that's worth, jsivak (which is why I'm holding onto my x200s with my hands ever so tightly)16:56
rick_h_I don't think it's that bad. I do like the older style better, but it's been bearable for sure.16:56
greg-gluckily wherever I am near a monitor, I have a Kinesis. it's just the couch/coffee shop/transit time that makes me dislike the keyboard16:57
jcastroI have a dual DP/DVI version of that thinkpad dock16:59
jcastrohttp://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Mini-Dock-Plus-USB/dp/B0085MQLGC/ref=pd_sim_e_316:59
jcastrocheaper too16:59
jrwren*cough* mac book air17:06
greg-gjrwren: worst. keyboard. ever.17:11
rick_h_lol17:11
jsivakgreg-g: yeah, the new keyboards looked 'less good'..17:16
jsivakrick_h_: for the desktop + 3 displays: did you use 3 display cards?17:18
jsivakI had bad luck with Xinerama support dying; so I ended up with a Matrox TripleHead2Go hardware solution17:18
jsivakrick_h_: forgot to ask, have you used the x230 on a plane? does it "fit" on the tray-table?17:20
greg-gjsivak: should, my x220 did17:21
greg-gI mean, with the usual caveat of when the person in front of you leans their seat back17:22
greg-gnothing fits17:22
jsivakah, got it.. the t520 is definitely too big.17:22
rick_h_jsivak: yea, it does fit.17:35
rick_h_I tend to use my N10 though for the most part.17:35
rick_h_jsivak: no, for the 3 displays the card supports it. 660Ti17:36
cmaloneyhttp://alekdarson.bandcamp.com/album/panopticon17:55
rick_h_jcastro: you get your N4 4.4 yet?18:18
jrwrengreg-g: i assure you that macbookair keyboard is not worst ever.18:18
jrwreni'll agree that it is not good.18:18
jcastrorick_h_, no18:20
rick_h_jcastro: ah ok. Saw they had released it and it's out there.18:20
jcastroyeah18:20
jcastroit's staggered18:20
jcastrobeen manually checking18:20
rick_h_gotcha18:20
greg-gjrwren: it's in the running, at least ;)18:21
rick_h_I keep waiting for N10 2 news18:21
jrwrengreg-g: on what are you typing?18:22
rick_h_jrwren: greg-g is a kenisis man18:22
greg-gdiehard, in fact18:22
rick_h_hah18:22
greg-g:)18:23
jrwrenanyone know where I can get an automake-1.12 package for 12.04? backports maybe?18:53
jrwrenhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=automake&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all18:54
jrwrenit was never packaged in any release?  FML18:54
cmaloneyAnybody else delight in marking reviews of books that bitch about the price as "suspected underage user?" :)20:12

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