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[14:06] <rick_h_> morning
[14:07] <rick_h_> heh, funny to see this in the JS weekly newsletter http://nathanleclaire.com/blog/2013/11/16/the-javascript-question-i-bombed-in-an-interview-with-a-y-combinator-startup/
[14:07] <rick_h_> seems something like https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/static/js/bookie/tagcontrol.js#L464 :)
[14:09] <cmaloney> heh
[14:09] <cmaloney> rick_h_: You're Y-combinator-startup-ready.
[14:09] <rick_h_> heh, I remember when I worked on that and took me a bit to get it right
[14:09] <cmaloney> To the HACKERNEWSMOBILE
[14:10] <rick_h_> hah!
[14:10] <rick_h_> I was thinking "All problems in all things occur in the Bookie universe!"
[14:10] <cmaloney> Yeah, because Bookie isn't a Todolist. ;)
[14:11] <cmaloney> And isn't JQuery-padded
[14:11] <rick_h_> hah, it's not a todo list...yet!
[14:11] <cmaloney> BookieList here we come
[14:14] <rick_h_> now that does sound like a betting website
[14:31] <waf> touch /srv/root/http/remember-to-buy-groceries
[14:31] <waf> bookmark that; todo list implemented.
[14:31] <rick_h_> :P
[14:45] <brousch> I want to turn it into a todo list, but rick_h_ wouldn't let me
[14:45] <rick_h_> I never let brousch do anything fun
[14:45] <brousch> Bookmark things with a todo tag, then remove the tag when it's done
[14:46] <rick_h_> crap, bookie is just a todo app! curses!
[14:46] <brousch> I still need something for my To-Read, To-Watch, and To-Listen lists like that
[14:58] <rick_h_> heh, dr who game in the google doodle on the uk site
[15:00] <jrwren> look at this BEAST https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/kudp1
[15:01] <rick_h_> yea, still no 12 or 13 laptop
[15:01] <rick_h_> I think they're confused on where the market is today
[15:09] <jrwren> agree.
[15:09] <jrwren> then again, they are such a niche market, that it may be the case that of ubuntu laptop buyers, many want a beast.
[15:10] <jrwren> that thing is actually awesome. I speced one out, with 2 - 1TB AND a 240G mSata and 16G ram, and the smallest i7, it was only $1600
[15:10] <jrwren> that is A LOT of laptop for the price.
[15:23] <rick_h_> heh, well come to a canonical sprint and you'll see 2/100 tanks like that
[15:24] <rick_h_> 40% thinkpad x2XX, 40% 13/12/11 macs, and 20% system 76, xps13, misc. And I can't think of many 17" ones in that group at all
[15:24] <rick_h_> ok, wtf...I just got an email from sourceforge that I've been selected to get a free 'Popular Science' magazine?!
[15:26] <jrwren> rick_h_: i hope you don't think that canonical sprinters are representative of all ubuntu users.
[15:26] <rick_h_> well it's a heavy ubuntu population :P
[15:26] <rick_h_> but yea, understand
[15:26] <jrwren> and hopefully a tiny sliver tiny fraction of the ubuntu population
[15:44] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Please forward that to me. I'd like to see it (the email)
[15:48] <rick_h_> cmaloney: forwarded
[15:55] <cmaloney> tx
[16:28] <jsivak> rick_h_: I'm looking at the Lenovo x230; you find any issues / problems with yours?
[16:30] <cmaloney> jsivak: Looking to downgrade the tank?
[16:32] <jsivak> looking for a smaller footprint (especially useful when travelling), but x230 *does* come with 16G of RAM. :)
[16:33] <cmaloney> Is that a datacenter in your man-purse or are you just happy to see me? :)
[16:34] <jsivak> That's no moon..   that's my laptop!
[16:34] <rick_h_> jsivak: I've got no issues other than the screen res
[16:35] <jsivak> Yeah, I saw the 1366 x 768.. didn't like that part.
[16:35] <rick_h_> the x240 with the higher res is rumored to be coming out next month
[16:35] <jsivak> Oh really..
[16:35] <rick_h_> so I'll be watching that, but other than that, no complaints
[16:35] <cmaloney> my laptop has it's own gravitational pull, and the CPU fan has been known to cause weather patterns to shift uncontrollably.
[16:35] <jsivak> rick_h_: this one? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x240/
[16:35] <cmaloney> Hasn't the x240 been the proverbial white whale laptop?
[16:36] <jsivak> .. it still has 1366x768.. :(
[16:36] <rick_h_> jsivak: http://www.designntrend.com/articles/8791/20131029/lenovo-thinkpad-x240-specs-price-release-info-touchscreen-edition-pushed-laptop-ultrabook.htm
[16:36] <rick_h_> jsivak: right, thus the 'Dec' rumor
[16:36] <cmaloney> blergh
[16:37] <cmaloney> stats or it didn't happen. ;)
[16:37] <greg-g> ugh, I'm not liking the new body on that ;/
[16:37] <greg-g> :/
[16:37] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's looking mighty cheap.
[16:37] <cmaloney> And the angle makes the touchpad look like it's falling out of the computer
[16:38] <cmaloney> like someone dropped it
[16:38] <jsivak> hmm.. can't get 16G on the x240.
[16:39] <jsivak> though at home I'd be hooking it up to a 22+" monitor.. so the 1366x768 res may not be *that* bad.
[16:39] <jsivak> my main issue is trying to use the t520 on a plane.. almost impossible.
[16:40] <jsivak> Plus, I'm trying to find an excuse to buy a new laptop so I can give my current one to my youngest daughter for Xmas
[16:43] <rick_h_> yea, I've got a pair of docsk if you want one
[16:43] <rick_h_> jsivak: that lets you do dual display out from the laotp
[16:43] <rick_h_> laptop
[16:43] <rick_h_> I don't use them now that I've got the desktop
[16:43] <greg-g> wiat wait....
[16:43] <greg-g> a pair? for what?
[16:43] <greg-g> which model?
[16:44] <rick_h_> x230, 220
[16:44] <greg-g> probably not compat with my x200s
[16:44] <greg-g> :(
[16:44]  * greg-g looks
[16:44] <greg-g> yeah, probably not
[16:45] <greg-g> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0047EGO6E/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[16:45] <greg-g> whats in my cart waiting to hit buy on
[16:46] <rick_h_> yea, I've used them for years as I've been laptop only
[16:47] <greg-g> me too, I've just been.... dumb
[16:47] <greg-g> mostly, it's so I can have the displayport for higher res external monitor
[16:48] <rick_h_> yea, I did displayport->DVI and DVI out
[16:48] <rick_h_> and now with the desktop I just use three displays on one machine bwuhahahaha
[16:48] <rick_h_> jsivak: so yea, if you're looking up upgrade I'd wait and see if the unicorn shows up next month
[16:49] <rick_h_> jsivak: but no issues here with my x230 and still love it and all.
[16:49] <rick_h_> jsivak: it'll do dual ssd (msata as a second one) so love the space, performance, etc
[16:56] <greg-g> I dislike the x230 keyboard, for what that's worth, jsivak (which is why I'm holding onto my x200s with my hands ever so tightly)
[16:56] <rick_h_> I don't think it's that bad. I do like the older style better, but it's been bearable for sure.
[16:57] <greg-g> luckily wherever I am near a monitor, I have a Kinesis. it's just the couch/coffee shop/transit time that makes me dislike the keyboard
[16:59] <jcastro> I have a dual DP/DVI version of that thinkpad dock
[16:59] <jcastro> http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Mini-Dock-Plus-USB/dp/B0085MQLGC/ref=pd_sim_e_3
[16:59] <jcastro> cheaper too
[17:06] <jrwren> *cough* mac book air
[17:11] <greg-g> jrwren: worst. keyboard. ever.
[17:11] <rick_h_> lol
[17:16] <jsivak> greg-g: yeah, the new keyboards looked 'less good'..
[17:18] <jsivak> rick_h_: for the desktop + 3 displays: did you use 3 display cards?
[17:18] <jsivak> I had bad luck with Xinerama support dying; so I ended up with a Matrox TripleHead2Go hardware solution
[17:20] <jsivak> rick_h_: forgot to ask, have you used the x230 on a plane? does it "fit" on the tray-table?
[17:21] <greg-g> jsivak: should, my x220 did
[17:22] <greg-g> I mean, with the usual caveat of when the person in front of you leans their seat back
[17:22] <greg-g> nothing fits
[17:22] <jsivak> ah, got it.. the t520 is definitely too big.
[17:35] <rick_h_> jsivak: yea, it does fit.
[17:35] <rick_h_> I tend to use my N10 though for the most part.
[17:36] <rick_h_> jsivak: no, for the 3 displays the card supports it. 660Ti
[17:55] <cmaloney> http://alekdarson.bandcamp.com/album/panopticon
[18:18] <rick_h_> jcastro: you get your N4 4.4 yet?
[18:18] <jrwren> greg-g: i assure you that macbookair keyboard is not worst ever.
[18:18] <jrwren> i'll agree that it is not good.
[18:20] <jcastro> rick_h_, no
[18:20] <rick_h_> jcastro: ah ok. Saw they had released it and it's out there.
[18:20] <jcastro> yeah
[18:20] <jcastro> it's staggered
[18:20] <jcastro> been manually checking
[18:20] <rick_h_> gotcha
[18:21] <greg-g> jrwren: it's in the running, at least ;)
[18:21] <rick_h_> I keep waiting for N10 2 news
[18:22] <jrwren> greg-g: on what are you typing?
[18:22] <rick_h_> jrwren: greg-g is a kenisis man
[18:22] <greg-g> diehard, in fact
[18:22] <rick_h_> hah
[18:23] <greg-g> :)
[18:53] <jrwren> anyone know where I can get an automake-1.12 package for 12.04? backports maybe?
[18:54] <jrwren> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=automake&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[18:54] <jrwren> it was never packaged in any release?  FML
[20:12] <cmaloney> Anybody else delight in marking reviews of books that bitch about the price as "suspected underage user?" :)