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kbmonkeymorning04:49
theblazehenmorning kbmonkey 04:59
kbmonkeyhallo 0/05:04
Kilosmorning kbmonkey and others05:04
kbmonkeyhello Kilos and theblazehen 05:05
Kiloskbmonkey, get your things in order for mondays meeting hey!05:06
kbmonkeyyes05:08
Kiloslooks like it will be a short one again05:09
kbmonkeysuch is life Kilos 05:09
Kilosyeah05:10
kbmonkeysigh05:11
Kiloswhat05:11
kbmonkey*steals kilos line*05:11
Kiloshuh?05:11
Kilosdont steal its free05:11
kbmonkeysure thing Kilos (y)05:14
Kiloshehe05:14
Kiloswhat you been drinking?05:14
Kilosor smoking05:14
kbmonkeywater and tea man05:14
Kiloshehe05:15
Kilosrooibos05:15
kbmonkeyja maybe I need something stronger05:21
Kiloshey what do peeps do with the new mobos? they got no pci sockets05:24
Kilosso apart from speed whats the advantage05:25
kbmonkeywhat new mobos?05:28
kbmonkeyits agp now pci no more?05:28
Kilosi saw one somewhere yesterday. ill let you know if i find it05:28
Kiloswhere do you plug in sound cards and wireless cards and so on05:29
kbmonkeyis it a large mobo or tiny?05:29
Kiloslooed large i think05:30
Kiloslooked05:30
kbmonkeysound and wireless must be built in then05:30
kbmonkeyotherwise if its a server board it wont need sound or wireless05:31
kbmonkeymust be for special uses05:31
Kiloshttp://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us000056805:32
Kilos8 usb ports, maybe they using usb for everything05:33
kbmonkeyit has a lan, vga and hdmi out05:36
kbmonkeyone pci v3 slot05:36
kbmonkeycorrection, it has 2 pci slots: standard and 2.005:38
kbmonkeysee the specs section. that overview is useless05:38
Kiloswhere ? i dont see them there05:38
kbmonkeyread the specs sheet Kilos 05:39
Kilosthe long yellow slot is for graphics i take it05:39
Squirmmorning05:42
Kiloshi Squirm 05:42
Kilosoh my if you hover mouse over the picture it enlarges05:42
Kiloswow that be cool05:43
Kiloshaha they say thats a good mobo for peeps with a budget05:46
Kiloshi bduk1 05:46
bduk1Morning Kilos and everyone05:47
Kilosthe killer is the cpu prices05:55
Kilossjoe05:55
kbmonkeyja Kilos the spec sheet sas different things that the picture. so who knows what to trust anymore?06:08
Kiloshehe06:10
kbmonkeywell I go now06:14
Kiloshave a good day laddy06:14
kbmonkeyyou too meneer!06:15
Kilosdanke06:15
kbmonkeyI will try sneak into irc during the day if I kan06:15
Kiloscool06:15
Kilosmorning superfly 06:25
superflyhi Kilos06:27
superflymorning theblazehen06:37
superflyag, I mean ThatGraemeGuy06:37
ThatGraemeGuyello06:37
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:37
superflyThatGraemeGuy: you know the devices we make?06:40
superfly(at work)06:40
ThatGraemeGuyyup06:40
superflySo, funny production bug at the moment... in order to get the true data usage we do a USSD request and then send the result of that back to the server06:41
ThatGraemeGuyk06:41
superflybut recently Vodacom started sending SMSes back after the USSD request06:41
ThatGraemeGuyurgh06:41
superflyin apparently unrelated news, if you send an SMS to the device, it reboots06:42
ThatGraemeGuyoh noes!06:42
superfly(weird bug, fixed already)06:42
superflyand as soon as the device starts up, it queries for its balance06:42
ThatGraemeGuyloopy de loop06:43
superflyso you get start up -> query -> sms -> reboot -> start up -> ...06:43
superflyyup!06:43
ThatGraemeGuynice one06:43
Kilosouch06:43
ThatGraemeGuybetter you than me :)06:43
superflyhehehe06:43
superflywe have a way around that fortunately06:43
superflybut it's an amusing scenario06:43
superflyat least now we know what's causing it06:43
superflywe didn't for a week or so06:43
ThatGraemeGuyoh wow06:44
ThatGraemeGuyso for a week people couldn't sell vouchers?06:44
superflysome people, not everyone it seems.06:45
ThatGraemeGuyacross the board, or limited06:45
ThatGraemeGuyah ok06:45
ThatGraemeGuystill, wow06:45
ThatGraemeGuystressful week then :006:45
superflynah, not really06:46
superflyOh, and the way to "fix" it for the moment (until we roll out the new code)? Send it an SMS.06:49
ThatGraemeGuyuuuhhh....06:50
ThatGraemeGuyso i'm definitely missing something, elaborate...06:50
superflyI can't say that my work here is ever dull :-D06:50
superflywe can send a couple of commands to the device via SMS as well, so we can stop it from requesting the airtime balance using an SMS command06:50
ThatGraemeGuyoh right06:58
nlsthznGoeie more Suid Afrika07:19
nlsthznslaap almal alweer?07:35
Kilosmorning nlsthzn sorry was outsidew07:36
nlsthzn:)07:36
Kilosoutside as well07:36
nlsthznall well uncle Kilos ?07:36
nlsthznmy daughter coming to SA middle of Dec... will make sure she brings the hardware along07:36
Kilosyes ty , very lekker. package just arrived from omega in durbs07:36
Kiloslovely lovely ty nlsthzn 07:37
nlsthznawesome07:37
Kilosgot some sticks and a wireless card and psu07:37
nlsthzncool... 07:37
nlsthznwell I am sending mobo/cpu/ram07:37
Kilosnow need to make up an external wifi antenna and search for wifi07:38
Kilosty very muchness07:38
Kilosim gonna be so happy with a fast pc07:40
Kilosgreen power 500w psu07:43
Kiloshope it dont stain my pc07:43
* Kilos goes off to install wireless adapter. wbb, hold them thumbs07:57
Kiloshmm...08:38
Kiloseven a wireless adapter comes with an install cd08:38
Kilosguess for what os08:38
Vince-0M$WINBLOW$08:42
Kiloshehe08:43
nlsthznbut once you have the drivers and you install it your hardware will work08:49
Kiloswb Vince-0 09:08
Kilosping got you09:08
charlgood morning09:16
charlMaaz: coffee on09:16
* Maaz washes some mugs09:16
Kiloshi charl 09:17
charlhi Kilos 09:17
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!09:20
charlMaaz: thanks09:21
Maazcharl: Okay :-)09:21
charlwb theblazehen 09:30
charltheblazehen: what ever happened to that richard stallman video?09:31
Kilosask Vince-0 09:33
Vince-0ey!09:47
Vince-0It has not been released from UKZN - paperwork09:47
Vince-0bit of a joke really09:48
Kiloswow do sticks come out with installable stuff for win now09:50
Kilosadata.exe and adata_chrome.exe09:50
charlhi Vince-0 10:04
charlVince-0: wow seriously?! oh my goodness 10:05
Vince-0charl, yep, I will check again with them10:34
Vince-0apparently the file size is like 20GB as well10:34
Vince-0so that's going to be one long upload10:34
Kilosouch10:34
charlVince-0: sounds like a nice high-quality 1080p recording :) out of interest, which format? ogg vorbis? and where are you planning on mirroring it?10:46
charlbittorrent would be ideal for distributing a file like that10:46
charltheblazehen's connection is on the fritz11:14
charlMaaz: seen darksurferza11:34
Maazcharl: darksurferza was last seen 1 day, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 51 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-11-21 11:35:13 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-11-21 11:39:37 SAST11:34
charlMaaz: tell darksurferza https://gist.github.com/anonymous/759853111:35
Maazcharl: Righto, I'll tell darksurferza on freenode11:35
Vince-0charl, it will be in ogg vorbis and most likely hosted on archive.org depending on their size restrictions11:44
inetprogood afternoon12:00
Vince-0!12:03
theblazemobile?12:03
theblazemobileStuck at school :/12:05
Kiloshi inetpro 12:23
theblazemobileHi Kilos inetpro12:23
Kilosstuck in what way theblazehen 12:23
Kilostheblazemobile, rather12:23
theblazemobileDont have a ride home until 312:23
Kilosaw sorry man12:24
theblazemobileExam finished at 1112:24
Kilosouch12:24
theblazemobileYep :/ and got nothing to study either12:25
inetprohi Kilos, theblazemobile12:28
inetprotheblazemobile: only 30 minutes to go12:30
inetproMaaz: coffee on12:30
* Maaz puts the kettle on12:30
theblazemobileinetpro yeah. 12:30
inetprowhat did you write today?12:31
theblazemobileBiology12:32
Kiloswb ThatGraemeGuy 12:32
Kiloswats nuus inetpro ?12:33
ThatGraemeGuytx12:33
inetproKilos: nuus, wat is dit?12:33
inetprotheblazemobile: how did it go?12:33
Kiloshahaha12:33
theblazemobileInetpro: went well :)12:34
Kilosgood12:34
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro!12:34
inetproMaaz: thanks12:34
Maazinetpro: Sure12:34
Kilosaw i forgot12:34
KilosMaaz, `wheres mine12:34
MaazKilos: *blink*12:34
Kilostwit bot12:34
Kilosinetpro, did you see?12:35
KilosMaaz, forecast pretoria12:35
MaazKilos: Thursday: Overcast. High: 28° C., Thursday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 15° C., Friday: Chance of Rain. High: 27° C., Friday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 15° C., Saturday: Partly Cloudy. High: 32° C., Saturday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 31° C., Sunday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 15° C., Monday:12:35
MaazChance of a Thunderstorm. High: 29° C., Monday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17°…12:35
inetproKilos: what happened?12:35
Kilosdifferent command12:35
Kilosold way still burps12:35
inetprooh clever Kilos, how did you find out?12:40
charlhi inetpro 12:40
charllong time no speak to12:40
Kilosgeorgl, use it for spotty on my channel12:40
inetprohi charl12:42
inetprocharl: too much to do, too little time12:42
Kiloswbb12:46
charlinetpro: lol12:50
* Squirm looks around13:05
Kilosyo Squirm 13:06
charlhi Squirm 13:07
charlwhow! bittorrent is amazing!13:28
charli just downloaded linux mint 16 (cinnamon iso and mate iso) at half a gigabit per second with rtorrent (according to bwm-ng)13:29
Kiloswow13:29
charlthis is what i'm talking about! no way i could get that via http/ftp13:29
Vince-0I know what you are talking about13:32
Kilosok somewhere im missing the plot. i want to install ubuntu onto a flash drive but dont get option to install from the dvd13:32
charlthe installer doesn't see the flash drive?13:33
Kilosi dont just want a startup disk to install from, i want ubuntu installed on the stick13:33
charlnever tried it myself to be honest13:34
Kilosya it shows the stick in the launcher but i dont see the install goodie13:34
charlin principle it should just see it as a hard drive13:39
charlbut in practice i don't really know how it works13:40
charlyou can install and run grub from a flash drive too13:40
charlso i see no reason it shouldn't just install as normal13:40
charlas long as it correctly sets up and configures grub on the flash drive13:40
charlbut it's all supported i think13:41
Kilosyeah driving me nuts. i only have the stick connected otherwise the dvd offers to install to a hdd13:41
Kiloshmm...13:41
Kiloslemme fiddle more13:42
Kilosi dont want a live usb to install with, i want to use the stick as my drive13:44
charlhave any of you guys used jitsi? it's extremely slow for me13:44
charlmint cinnamon runs terribly slow inside vmware - seems to be related to the graphic effects13:56
charlubuntu 13.10 (unity) also runs absolutely terrible13:56
Kiloshmm...14:11
Kiloskde 12.04 is installing. wonder what is different14:11
Kiloshi adeebnqo you just disappeared last night14:16
Kilosok bye14:17
Kiloshi psychicist 14:17
charlhi psychicist 14:18
psychicisthi Kilos 14:18
psychicisthi charl 14:18
psychiciston the bus to Prague :D14:18
charloh nice, the bus has wifi?14:18
charlor you got your own 3g/4g thing14:18
psychicistyeah14:18
psychicistno14:18
Kiloscome charl tell me why 12.04 installs but unity dont even give the option14:18
psychicistthere is free wifi on the bus14:19
charlKilos: option for what?14:19
charlpsychicist: very cool!14:19
Kiloswow wifi on a bus14:19
Kilosto install charl 14:19
charlpsychicist: i had that once in the usa too when we were in oregon for oscon14:19
psychicistcharl, Megabus?14:20
psychicistthe company that has it here is called Polskibus, but it has the same owner14:20
charlpsychicist: we were on our way to oregon state university for a tour of the open source lab14:20
psychicistbtw, you should check it out14:20
charlno idea, can't remember...14:20
psychicistyou can travel from Amsterdam to Paris for €15 with Megabus14:20
psychicistor for a little more to many places in the UK14:21
charloh i must bookmark this14:21
charli want to go to paris next year14:21
charlalso to valencia they have this amazing museum there14:21
psychicistyes14:22
psychicistand in Germany you can use Meinfernbus14:22
psychicistmuch cheaper than trains14:22
Kilostheblazehen, you home yet?14:25
Kilosinetpro, lyk of die weer weer kom14:26
Kilossal gou gaan beloer14:26
charlyeah but trains are nice and fast :P14:36
charland comfortable14:36
charlthe bus is the suck14:36
charlmint mate is fast inside vmware - most definitely related to cinnamon14:38
charlwhy on earth does ubuntu default to yahoo search, are they nuts14:42
charlmint, i mean14:42
Kilostell them14:50
kbmonkeygreetings 0/15:25
Kilosohi kbmonkey wb15:26
kbmonkeyhow goes it in the cyberspace?15:30
Kilosno man we earth bound15:30
kbmonkeybound I agree with but earth I am not sure about!15:33
Kiloslol15:38
Kiloswhen nm says wifi connected is it connected to somewhere else or just to the wifi adapter15:40
Kilosand if to somewhere else how do i find to where15:41
kbmonkeyit means it connected to a wifi hotspot15:45
kbmonkeymaybe your router15:45
Kilosnope router off15:46
Kiloscan one use tracepath or something15:46
kbmonkeythe tray icon says nothing?15:47
Kilosin nm?15:47
Kilosonly shows the option to disconnect15:47
Kilosohi Trixar_za 15:48
Kilosyou well?15:48
kbmonkeyRun nm-tool | grep \*. That should show just the line with the SSID you are connected to.15:49
Kilosty15:49
kbmonkeyalso, run "iwconfig"15:49
kbmonkeythat also shows the name of the network you are conneccted to :]15:49
Kilos *myfi:           Ad-Hoc, 9E:07:DA:C6:79:C4, Freq 2412 MHz, Rate 0 Mb/s, Strength 100 WEP15:50
Kilos Wireless Access Points (* = current AP)15:50
Kiloswhatever does that mean15:51
kbmonkeyiwconfig | grep wlan015:51
kbmonkeywlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"rubber-chicken15:51
kbmonkey^ thats mine15:51
kbmonkeyESSID is the name you looking for15:52
kbmonkeyit is an ad-hoc network, did you create a network?15:52
Kiloswlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"myfi" 15:53
Kilosmyfi is the name of my adapter15:53
Kilosor my network i created15:54
Kilosso to me it looks like nm is connect to the adapter not outside15:55
Kilosright or wrong15:55
Kilos?15:55
kbmonkeyits connected to your mifi15:56
kbmonkeybut its off?15:56
Kiloshow you see that?15:58
Kiloslooks same as yours so how can you say its off15:59
Kilosnm shows the disconnect button15:59
kbmonkeygee I don't know Kilos - iwconfig says its connected to mifi so it must be.16:07
kbmonkeyone clue is that it says "ad hoc", which it should not say for normal networks16:07
Kilosya but myfi is me16:07
kbmonkeywhich means you or someone else created a network on your pc16:08
Kilosoh16:08
Kilosmust i make that dhcp?16:08
kbmonkeyand called it mifi, and it is not actually the mifi device16:08
Kilosman myfi not mifi16:08
kbmonkeyis that what you use to go online?16:08
Kilosonline to where?16:09
Kilosonly plugged the adapter in today16:09
Kilosnever had wifi before16:09
Kilosused eth to router16:09
kbmonkeyah, I understand what you say. a usb adapter?16:10
Kilosmaybe there isnt any wifi close enough16:10
Kilosno pci card16:10
kbmonkeyonline to irc of course ;)16:10
kbmonkeyto the cyber space16:11
kbmonkeyto the series of tubes16:11
Kilosman thats with 8ta16:11
kbmonkeyoh noes, so many devices!16:12
kbmonkeyit is an orgy of electronics in your house Kilos 16:12
Kiloslol you must see it16:14
Kilos2 drives running outside from separate psu16:14
Kilosactually 3 outside and one inside on pcs power16:15
Kilosbut everything works16:15
Kilosoutside is maverick and 12.04 unity and 80g scrap drive thats become storage and inside is 12.04 kde16:16
Kiloscant put the cover on anymore16:16
Kiloshehe16:17
Kilosbut around christmas time things will change16:18
Kilosneelsie is sending me a mobo with ram and cpu16:18
Kilosfirst quads16:19
Kilosi3 i think they were16:19
kbmonkeywow that is very nice!16:19
kbmonkeyhow is your hard drives doing, okay?16:20
Kilosyeah all working16:20
Kilossome with 10g win installed first to use up the bad sectors16:21
Kilosoh i wanna mail you something16:21
kbmonkeyoh? I am curious now!16:22
Kiloswhew fat one16:24
kbmonkeyis that for xmas Kilos ?16:26
Kiloshehe16:26
Kilosanytime16:27
kbmonkeyhehe, okay :)16:27
Kilosalso got sent a mail today about using lemon to kill cancer instead of chemo16:29
Kiloswould like to share it with everyone16:30
Kiloslotsa cancer peeps out there16:30
kbmonkeyah thanks!16:37
kbmonkeygot disconnected there.16:37
kbmonkeymifi ran out of battery16:37
Kilosai!16:37
kbmonkeymoved it to the other side of house with power, but now on slow 1g LOL16:37
Kilosthats why pci adapter is better16:37
Kilosall these plugin charger things are a pain16:38
kbmonkeyja!16:38
kbmonkeythanks Kilos I got the email!16:46
Kilosgood16:46
Kiloshmm... noisy bunch18:15
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. see ya morrow18:29

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