[04:49] morning [04:59] morning kbmonkey [05:04] hallo 0/ [05:04] morning kbmonkey and others [05:05] hello Kilos and theblazehen [05:06] kbmonkey, get your things in order for mondays meeting hey! [05:08] yes [05:09] looks like it will be a short one again [05:09] such is life Kilos [05:10] yeah [05:11] sigh [05:11] what [05:11] *steals kilos line* [05:11] huh? [05:11] dont steal its free [05:14] sure thing Kilos (y) [05:14] hehe [05:14] what you been drinking? [05:14] or smoking [05:14] water and tea man [05:15] hehe [05:15] rooibos [05:21] ja maybe I need something stronger [05:24] hey what do peeps do with the new mobos? they got no pci sockets [05:25] so apart from speed whats the advantage [05:28] what new mobos? [05:28] its agp now pci no more? [05:28] i saw one somewhere yesterday. ill let you know if i find it [05:29] where do you plug in sound cards and wireless cards and so on [05:29] is it a large mobo or tiny? [05:30] looed large i think [05:30] looked [05:30] sound and wireless must be built in then [05:31] otherwise if its a server board it wont need sound or wireless [05:31] must be for special uses [05:32] http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000568 [05:33] 8 usb ports, maybe they using usb for everything [05:36] it has a lan, vga and hdmi out [05:36] one pci v3 slot [05:38] correction, it has 2 pci slots: standard and 2.0 [05:38] see the specs section. that overview is useless [05:38] where ? i dont see them there [05:39] read the specs sheet Kilos [05:39] the long yellow slot is for graphics i take it [05:42] morning [05:42] hi Squirm [05:42] oh my if you hover mouse over the picture it enlarges [05:43] wow that be cool [05:46] haha they say thats a good mobo for peeps with a budget [05:46] hi bduk1 [05:47] Morning Kilos and everyone [05:55] the killer is the cpu prices [05:55] sjoe [06:08] ja Kilos the spec sheet sas different things that the picture. so who knows what to trust anymore? [06:10] hehe [06:14] well I go now [06:14] have a good day laddy [06:15] you too meneer! [06:15] danke [06:15] I will try sneak into irc during the day if I kan [06:15] cool [06:25] morning superfly [06:27] hi Kilos [06:37] morning theblazehen [06:37] ag, I mean ThatGraemeGuy [06:37] ello [06:37] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:40] ThatGraemeGuy: you know the devices we make? [06:40] (at work) [06:40] yup [06:41] So, funny production bug at the moment... in order to get the true data usage we do a USSD request and then send the result of that back to the server [06:41] k [06:41] but recently Vodacom started sending SMSes back after the USSD request [06:41] urgh [06:42] in apparently unrelated news, if you send an SMS to the device, it reboots [06:42] oh noes! [06:42] (weird bug, fixed already) [06:42] and as soon as the device starts up, it queries for its balance [06:43] loopy de loop [06:43] so you get start up -> query -> sms -> reboot -> start up -> ... [06:43] yup! [06:43] nice one [06:43] ouch [06:43] better you than me :) [06:43] hehehe [06:43] we have a way around that fortunately [06:43] but it's an amusing scenario [06:43] at least now we know what's causing it [06:43] we didn't for a week or so [06:44] oh wow [06:44] so for a week people couldn't sell vouchers? [06:45] some people, not everyone it seems. [06:45] across the board, or limited [06:45] ah ok [06:45] still, wow [06:45] stressful week then :0 [06:46] nah, not really [06:49] Oh, and the way to "fix" it for the moment (until we roll out the new code)? Send it an SMS. [06:50] uuuhhh.... [06:50] so i'm definitely missing something, elaborate... [06:50] I can't say that my work here is ever dull :-D [06:50] we can send a couple of commands to the device via SMS as well, so we can stop it from requesting the airtime balance using an SMS command [06:58] oh right [07:19] Goeie more Suid Afrika [07:35] slaap almal alweer? [07:36] morning nlsthzn sorry was outsidew [07:36] :) [07:36] outside as well [07:36] all well uncle Kilos ? [07:36] my daughter coming to SA middle of Dec... will make sure she brings the hardware along [07:36] yes ty , very lekker. package just arrived from omega in durbs [07:37] lovely lovely ty nlsthzn [07:37] awesome [07:37] got some sticks and a wireless card and psu [07:37] cool... [07:37] well I am sending mobo/cpu/ram [07:38] now need to make up an external wifi antenna and search for wifi [07:38] ty very muchness [07:40] im gonna be so happy with a fast pc [07:43] green power 500w psu [07:43] hope it dont stain my pc [07:57] * Kilos goes off to install wireless adapter. wbb, hold them thumbs [08:38] hmm... [08:38] even a wireless adapter comes with an install cd [08:38] guess for what os [08:42] M$WINBLOW$ [08:43] hehe [08:49] but once you have the drivers and you install it your hardware will work [09:08] wb Vince-0 [09:08] ping got you [09:16] good morning [09:16] Maaz: coffee on [09:16] * Maaz washes some mugs [09:17] hi charl [09:17] hi Kilos [09:20] Coffee's ready for charl! [09:21] Maaz: thanks [09:21] charl: Okay :-) [09:30] wb theblazehen [09:31] theblazehen: what ever happened to that richard stallman video? [09:33] ask Vince-0 [09:47] ey! [09:47] It has not been released from UKZN - paperwork [09:48] bit of a joke really [09:50] wow do sticks come out with installable stuff for win now [09:50] adata.exe and adata_chrome.exe [10:04] hi Vince-0 [10:05] Vince-0: wow seriously?! oh my goodness [10:34] charl, yep, I will check again with them [10:34] apparently the file size is like 20GB as well [10:34] so that's going to be one long upload [10:34] ouch [10:46] Vince-0: sounds like a nice high-quality 1080p recording :) out of interest, which format? ogg vorbis? and where are you planning on mirroring it? [10:46] bittorrent would be ideal for distributing a file like that [11:14] theblazehen's connection is on the fritz [11:34] Maaz: seen darksurferza [11:34] charl: darksurferza was last seen 1 day, 1 hour, 58 minutes and 51 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-11-21 11:35:13 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-11-21 11:39:37 SAST [11:35] Maaz: tell darksurferza https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7598531 [11:35] charl: Righto, I'll tell darksurferza on freenode [11:44] charl, it will be in ogg vorbis and most likely hosted on archive.org depending on their size restrictions [12:00] good afternoon [12:03] ! [12:03] ? [12:05] Stuck at school :/ [12:23] hi inetpro [12:23] Hi Kilos inetpro [12:23] stuck in what way theblazehen [12:23] theblazemobile, rather [12:23] Dont have a ride home until 3 [12:24] aw sorry man [12:24] Exam finished at 11 [12:24] ouch [12:25] Yep :/ and got nothing to study either [12:28] hi Kilos, theblazemobile [12:30] theblazemobile: only 30 minutes to go [12:30] Maaz: coffee on [12:30] * Maaz puts the kettle on [12:30] inetpro yeah. [12:31] what did you write today? [12:32] Biology [12:32] wb ThatGraemeGuy [12:33] wats nuus inetpro ? [12:33] tx [12:33] Kilos: nuus, wat is dit? [12:33] theblazemobile: how did it go? [12:33] hahaha [12:34] Inetpro: went well :) [12:34] good [12:34] Coffee's ready for inetpro! [12:34] Maaz: thanks [12:34] inetpro: Sure [12:34] aw i forgot [12:34] Maaz, `wheres mine [12:34] Kilos: *blink* [12:34] twit bot [12:35] inetpro, did you see? [12:35] Maaz, forecast pretoria [12:35] Kilos: Thursday: Overcast. High: 28° C., Thursday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 15° C., Friday: Chance of Rain. High: 27° C., Friday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 15° C., Saturday: Partly Cloudy. High: 32° C., Saturday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 31° C., Sunday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 15° C., Monday: [12:35] Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 29° C., Monday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17°… [12:35] Kilos: what happened? [12:35] different command [12:35] old way still burps [12:40] oh clever Kilos, how did you find out? [12:40] hi inetpro [12:40] long time no speak to [12:40] georgl, use it for spotty on my channel [12:42] hi charl [12:42] charl: too much to do, too little time [12:46] wbb [12:50] inetpro: lol [13:05] * Squirm looks around [13:06] yo Squirm [13:07] hi Squirm [13:28] whow! bittorrent is amazing! [13:29] i just downloaded linux mint 16 (cinnamon iso and mate iso) at half a gigabit per second with rtorrent (according to bwm-ng) [13:29] wow [13:29] this is what i'm talking about! no way i could get that via http/ftp [13:32] I know what you are talking about [13:32] ok somewhere im missing the plot. i want to install ubuntu onto a flash drive but dont get option to install from the dvd [13:33] the installer doesn't see the flash drive? [13:33] i dont just want a startup disk to install from, i want ubuntu installed on the stick [13:34] never tried it myself to be honest [13:34] ya it shows the stick in the launcher but i dont see the install goodie [13:39] in principle it should just see it as a hard drive [13:40] but in practice i don't really know how it works [13:40] you can install and run grub from a flash drive too [13:40] so i see no reason it shouldn't just install as normal [13:40] as long as it correctly sets up and configures grub on the flash drive [13:41] but it's all supported i think [13:41] yeah driving me nuts. i only have the stick connected otherwise the dvd offers to install to a hdd [13:41] hmm... [13:42] lemme fiddle more [13:44] i dont want a live usb to install with, i want to use the stick as my drive [13:44] have any of you guys used jitsi? it's extremely slow for me [13:56] mint cinnamon runs terribly slow inside vmware - seems to be related to the graphic effects [13:56] ubuntu 13.10 (unity) also runs absolutely terrible [14:11] hmm... [14:11] kde 12.04 is installing. wonder what is different [14:16] hi adeebnqo you just disappeared last night [14:17] ok bye [14:17] hi psychicist [14:18] hi psychicist [14:18] hi Kilos [14:18] hi charl [14:18] on the bus to Prague :D [14:18] oh nice, the bus has wifi? [14:18] or you got your own 3g/4g thing [14:18] yeah [14:18] no [14:18] come charl tell me why 12.04 installs but unity dont even give the option [14:19] there is free wifi on the bus [14:19] Kilos: option for what? [14:19] psychicist: very cool! [14:19] wow wifi on a bus [14:19] to install charl [14:19] psychicist: i had that once in the usa too when we were in oregon for oscon [14:20] charl, Megabus? [14:20] the company that has it here is called Polskibus, but it has the same owner [14:20] psychicist: we were on our way to oregon state university for a tour of the open source lab [14:20] btw, you should check it out [14:20] no idea, can't remember... [14:20] you can travel from Amsterdam to Paris for €15 with Megabus [14:21] or for a little more to many places in the UK [14:21] oh i must bookmark this [14:21] i want to go to paris next year [14:21] also to valencia they have this amazing museum there [14:22] yes [14:22] and in Germany you can use Meinfernbus [14:22] much cheaper than trains [14:25] theblazehen, you home yet? [14:26] inetpro, lyk of die weer weer kom [14:26] sal gou gaan beloer [14:36] yeah but trains are nice and fast :P [14:36] and comfortable [14:36] the bus is the suck [14:38] mint mate is fast inside vmware - most definitely related to cinnamon [14:42] why on earth does ubuntu default to yahoo search, are they nuts [14:42] mint, i mean [14:50] tell them [15:25] greetings 0/ [15:26] ohi kbmonkey wb [15:30] how goes it in the cyberspace? [15:30] no man we earth bound [15:33] bound I agree with but earth I am not sure about! [15:38] lol [15:40] when nm says wifi connected is it connected to somewhere else or just to the wifi adapter [15:41] and if to somewhere else how do i find to where [15:45] it means it connected to a wifi hotspot [15:45] maybe your router [15:46] nope router off [15:46] can one use tracepath or something [15:47] the tray icon says nothing? [15:47] in nm? [15:47] only shows the option to disconnect [15:48] ohi Trixar_za [15:48] you well? [15:49] Run nm-tool | grep \*. That should show just the line with the SSID you are connected to. [15:49] ty [15:49] also, run "iwconfig" [15:49] that also shows the name of the network you are conneccted to :] [15:50] *myfi: Ad-Hoc, 9E:07:DA:C6:79:C4, Freq 2412 MHz, Rate 0 Mb/s, Strength 100 WEP [15:50] Wireless Access Points (* = current AP) [15:51] whatever does that mean [15:51] iwconfig | grep wlan0 [15:51] wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"rubber-chicken [15:51] ^ thats mine [15:52] ESSID is the name you looking for [15:52] it is an ad-hoc network, did you create a network? [15:53] wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:"myfi" [15:53] myfi is the name of my adapter [15:54] or my network i created [15:55] so to me it looks like nm is connect to the adapter not outside [15:55] right or wrong [15:55] ? [15:56] its connected to your mifi [15:56] but its off? [15:58] how you see that? [15:59] looks same as yours so how can you say its off [15:59] nm shows the disconnect button [16:07] gee I don't know Kilos - iwconfig says its connected to mifi so it must be. [16:07] one clue is that it says "ad hoc", which it should not say for normal networks [16:07] ya but myfi is me [16:08] which means you or someone else created a network on your pc [16:08] oh [16:08] must i make that dhcp? [16:08] and called it mifi, and it is not actually the mifi device [16:08] man myfi not mifi [16:08] is that what you use to go online? [16:09] online to where? [16:09] only plugged the adapter in today [16:09] never had wifi before [16:09] used eth to router [16:10] ah, I understand what you say. a usb adapter? [16:10] maybe there isnt any wifi close enough [16:10] no pci card [16:10] online to irc of course ;) [16:11] to the cyber space [16:11] to the series of tubes [16:11] man thats with 8ta [16:12] oh noes, so many devices! [16:12] it is an orgy of electronics in your house Kilos [16:14] lol you must see it [16:14] 2 drives running outside from separate psu [16:15] actually 3 outside and one inside on pcs power [16:15] but everything works [16:16] outside is maverick and 12.04 unity and 80g scrap drive thats become storage and inside is 12.04 kde [16:16] cant put the cover on anymore [16:17] hehe [16:18] but around christmas time things will change [16:18] neelsie is sending me a mobo with ram and cpu [16:19] first quads [16:19] i3 i think they were [16:19] wow that is very nice! [16:20] how is your hard drives doing, okay? [16:20] yeah all working [16:21] some with 10g win installed first to use up the bad sectors [16:21] oh i wanna mail you something [16:22] oh? I am curious now! [16:24] whew fat one [16:26] is that for xmas Kilos ? [16:26] hehe [16:27] anytime [16:27] hehe, okay :) [16:29] also got sent a mail today about using lemon to kill cancer instead of chemo [16:30] would like to share it with everyone [16:30] lotsa cancer peeps out there [16:37] ah thanks! [16:37] got disconnected there. [16:37] mifi ran out of battery [16:37] ai! [16:37] moved it to the other side of house with power, but now on slow 1g LOL [16:37] thats why pci adapter is better [16:38] all these plugin charger things are a pain [16:38] ja! [16:46] thanks Kilos I got the email! [16:46] good [18:15] hmm... noisy bunch [18:29] night all. sleep tight. see ya morrow