[00:00] <Jordan_U> SamuraiDio: Because wine (outside of the still in development 64 bit port) is 32 bit only.
[00:00] <rearden> geekmasterflash: could this be because I chose to encrypt the disk the last time I installed Ubuntu to it?
[00:00] <Beldar> d----, xcaht is an app, you have to set it up.
[00:00] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Possible, but unlikely. Even if it's encrypted the drive should be visable
[00:00] <Jordan_U> rearden: No. Encrypting a drive doesn't prevent it from being listed in such tools.
[00:01] <esde> d----, click on Opera in the top left, then Settings > preferernces
[00:01] <geekmasterflash> rearden: What confuses me is that when you booted from your external it appeared you had another drive
[00:01] <esde> programs in the left column
[00:01] <domino14> massive elasticsearch log files
[00:01] <domino14> wtf
[00:01] <rearden> geekmasterflash: is there any way to just wipe the disc from a boot menu? I don't need anything on it
[00:01] <d----> okay let me do that now
[00:01] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Not if the disc doesn't show up
[00:01] <esde> d----, what irc client do you have currently installed?
[00:01] <wafflejockTablet> domino14: well there's your problem
[00:01] <d----> xchat
[00:02] <domino14> thanks for letting me know about ncdu, it's fantastic
[00:02] <wafflejockTablet> domino14: np
[00:02] <d----> esde: I don't see programs in the left hand column
[00:02] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Alright, lets try this one last time
[00:02] <rearden> geekmasterflash: it shows up in my boot menu, but only as "ubuntu"
[00:02] <d----> i see it sorry
[00:02] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Boot back into your external and try parted -l there
[00:02] <d----> in advanced
[00:02] <Jordan_U> rearden: That's not the disk showing up, that's a UEFI boot entry showing up.
[00:02] <geekmasterflash> rearden: Tell me if you have two drives listed then
[00:03] <rearden> ok, be back in a minute
[00:03] <Jordan_U> rearden: You can use efibootmgr to remove UEFI boot entries.
[00:03] <Beldar> domino14, please be aware of the channels rules on swearing. ;)
[00:03] <eddie_> Beldar: Hi
[00:03] <domino14> where di i swaer? sorry
[00:03] <eddie_> i have installed Ubuntu in a system
[00:03] <eddie_> which had Windiws
[00:04] <Beldar> domino14, an acronym 16:01:22
[00:04] <domino14> that's not a swear
[00:04] <eddie_> Now only windows is working. How do i install Grub2 from Windows?
[00:04] <Beldar> domino14, It is here. ;)
[00:04] <domino14> what's the fuss?
[00:04] <bekks> eddie_: You cant. You need to use a linux live cd.
[00:04] <domino14> that's a swear?
[00:05] <d----> esde: i set the program for irc:// to xchat sadly all it does it open xchat... maybe irc://$server:$port ?:P
[00:05] <wafflejockTablet> domino14: k4dirstat is a real nice GUI one, gives a visual graph of the disk making it easy to identify the parts not good for remote or if totally strapped for space
[00:05] <Beldar> domino14, I have asked you nicely, it is just the channel rules, no swear words or acronyms of.
[00:05] <eddie_> What if i erase windows and install Ubuntu?
[00:06] <bekks> eddie_: Then you wont have a dualboot anymore and you need an install cd too. So just use that install cd to repair your grub.
[00:06] <esde> d----, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser#Protocol_integration_with_KDE
[00:06] <wafflejockTablet> eddie_: look up grub boot repair
[00:06] <eddie_> i needed ubuntu today. Where do i get the CD from? :(
[00:06] <domino14> i didn't say an acronym of as wear
[00:06] <wafflejockTablet> Ubuntu.com
[00:07] <xangua> eddie_: ubuntu no longer fits on a CD
[00:07] <domino14> i said why these files
[00:07] <rearden_> geekmasterflash: ok, it appears with parted -l
[00:07] <wafflejockTablet> Hehe
[00:07] <domino14> why they're so big?
[00:07] <esde> opera -newmail "%s" < - you may be right
[00:07] <bekks> eddie_: how did you install ubuntu, and when?
[00:07] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: Pastebin it for me please
[00:07] <eddie_> I installed it today from USB
[00:07] <bekks> domino14: Because it doesnt matter anymore, since dvd media are even cheaper than cd media nowadays.
[00:07] <esde> don't know what variable is which value though
[00:07] <bekks> eddie_: Then boot that usb again...
[00:07] <eddie_> Guys i am a programmer and need to finish a work today :(
[00:07] <domino14> elasticsearch/graylog are a nightmare
[00:08] <esde> eddie_, sup
[00:08] <Beldar> domino14, You wanting to argue is surprising this is straight forward stuff, that is a acronym of 3 distinctive words, it is not allowed here.
[00:08] <domino14> acronyms could stand for anything
[00:08] <domino14> i was talking about my FILES
[00:08] <eddie_> yes i did
[00:08] <rearden_> geekmasterflash: http://pastebin.com/C1NVEP9f
[00:08] <eddie_> its again asking for ubuntu installation
[00:08] <bekks> eddie_: And then follow !grub2 to repaur your grub.
[00:08] <Rory> eddie_: Instead, choose "Try Ubuntu" instead of "Install ubuntu"
[00:08] <Beldar> domino14, Ah, okay and I have a bridge for sale, lol.
[00:08] <bekks> eddie_: dont install, just try out.
[00:09] <domino14> i set up a backup drive for elasticsearch with 300 G, somehow i was saving too many indices and it overran that hard drive, so then elasticsearch started failing and destroyed my main drive with it's stupid multi-gigabyte logs
[00:09] <rearden_> geekmasterflash: the tough drive is my thumb drive, and the seagate freeagent is my external
[00:09] <domino14> i was saying why are these files so big
[00:09] <domino14> sorry, english is not first language
[00:09] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: So.. I don't see any other drive
[00:09] <bekks> domino14: because their content exceeds your space limits.
[00:09] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: Wait, I am blind
[00:10] <domino14> yeah, i got that now
[00:10] <rearden_> geekmasterflash: what is that last one pertaining to?
[00:10] <domino14> thanks for your help
[00:10] <rearden_> geekmasterflash: lol, really scared me there
[00:10] <domino14> ncdu is cool
[00:10] <wafflejockTablet> Np
[00:10] <domino14> my whole drive was fubar
[00:10] <domino14> totally fouled up
[00:11] <wafflejockTablet> It is nice bailed me out on my nas a few times
[00:11] <bekks> domino14: it wasnt. it was just filled up with logs, which could have been deleted.
[00:11] <domino14> elasticsearch shoudlnt default to creating 10-gigabyte logs when stuff starts messing up :(
[00:11] <bekks> domino14: I guess thats configurable.
[00:11] <Beldar> domino14,This is a worldwide channel spanning many cultural and ethnic groups, and is a family channel, does that make sense as to why there are theses limitations.
[00:12] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: Bad new
[00:12] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: That's the "loop
[00:12] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: Which is not a disc
[00:13] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: But a way to mount
[00:13] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: All that is, is your external again
[00:13] <rearden_> geekmasterflash: so, probably have a solid 1,000 gigs of brick in my desktop then
[00:14] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: Looks that way. Make sure it's plugged in right is all I can say
[00:14] <bekks> rearden_: What happened to your disk?
[00:14] <geekmasterflash> rearden_: Otherwise, I am all out of ideas
[00:14] <rearden_> geekmasterflash: well, thanks anyway. you have put a lot of effort into helping me and I appreciate it
[00:15] <rearden_> bekks: i'm not really sure. it seems to have vanished
[00:15] <domino14> i think there are like 150 curse words in the linux kernel
[00:15] <wafflejockTablet> U guys tried sudo fdisk -l from a live disk and not seeing it?
[00:15] <bekks> rearden_: Can you still see it?
[00:16] <rearden_> bekks: doesn't appear that way
[00:16] <bekks> rearden_: So even looking at it, physically, you dont see it anymore?
[00:16] <wafflejockTablet> Magic
[00:17] <geekmasterflash> bekks: Are you asking if it was stolen by ninja?
[00:17] <bekks> geekmasterflash: I am just doubting that it vanished.
[00:17] <rearden_> bekks: lol, i mean, the drive exists in a pysical sense. just not a computer recognizing it sense
[00:17] <rearden_> pastebin for fdisk comman
[00:17] <rearden_> http://pastebin.com/WjGAd2z8
[00:17] <bekks> rearden_: So is it an external drive?
[00:17] <rearden_> bekks: no, i have ubuntu on an external currently, but my internal HDD has vanished
[00:18] <Rory> rearden_: Can you see it in palimpsest ?
[00:18] <Beldar> rearden_, Since the external does boot ubuntu, have you run sudo update-grub there?
[00:18] <bekks> rearden_: read line 11.
[00:18] <Rory> rearden_: That's often a bit easier to poke around in if you don't know exactly what you're looking for
[00:19] <rearden_> Rory: i don't know how to access that
[00:19] <rearden_> Beldar: I have not, what would that do? I'm still very much a newbie
[00:19] <Rory> rearden_: type it and press Enter, or search for "disk" in the dash, I think it's called "disks" or "disk utility" there
[00:19] <bekks> rearden_: so whats that sda, with 8GB?
[00:20] <rearden_> bekks: my thumb drive for liveCd
[00:20] <rearden_> Rory: I found that, I don't know if I have the right drive though
[00:21] <Beldar> rearden_, That runs the grub bootloaders os-prober, finding other OS. It does seem that the internal is not being seen, but one never knows. people do miscommunicate here.
[00:21] <bekks> rearden_: So did you turn off your computer and doublechecked all the cabling and all connectors?
[00:21] <rearden_> bekks: yeah, i've tried it
[00:22] <bekks> rearden_: Did you try using another cabling or connector?
[00:22] <rearden_> bekks: I don't have any other ones
[00:23] <rearden_> Rory: How can I tell if the disk I am looking at is the one I am currently using?
[00:26] <geekmasterflash> Anyone here have any clue what could be causing this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1253789
[00:26] <tripelb> 12.04 Gnome-classic:that windshieldwipertrace shaped thing that gets parellel lines on in when I am connected to a network, ie the connectivity-icon in the PANEL has vanished and I want it back, please.
[00:26] <Rory> rearden_: Currently using? You should boot from a liveUSB for this probably
[00:26] <reisio> geekmasterflash: shuts off?
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> reisio: Aye, I can actually watch the ifrared on my mouse go dead
[00:27] <reisio> geekmasterflash: if it were infrared, you couldn't :p
[00:27] <reisio> but I know what you mean
[00:27] <rearden_> Rory: ok
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> reisio: err, whatever the red light is, probably laser then
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> :P
[00:27] <reisio> :)
[00:28] <reisio> geekmasterflash: have you tried another DM?
[00:28] <geekmasterflash> reisio: Yes, the same thing happens.
[00:28] <reisio> geekmasterflash: okay, have you tried starting X without a DM?
[00:29] <Danato> hey is there a minimize button like the windows button on windows?
[00:29] <geekmasterflash> reisio: Can't say I have. Typically the DM loads before I ever get the chance to switch
[00:29] <geekmasterflash> reisio: Downside of an SSD I guess
[00:30] <Danato> it doesnt have to be "a" button, but it can be a combo of buttons
[00:31] <paberlance> hey there! Can anyone help me? I screewed my displaymanager on ubuntu
[00:32] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: How?
[00:32] <syntroPi> How would i set the default tx power of my wlan (ie. "iwconfig wlan1 txpower 10") so it will be 10 on every startup/connect/reconnect?
[00:33] <wafflejockTablet> syntroPi: probably want to add it to ~/.bashrc
[00:33] <syntroPi> not on login but on startup or usb connect
[00:33] <paberlance> i reconfigured the dpkg packages and now when i boot it starts to a clean desktop withot anything but my curser
[00:34] <wafflejockTablet> syntroPi: possibly looking at /etc/init then not sure though
[00:34] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[00:34] <wafflejockTablet> !upstart
[00:35] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: pressing cntl+alt+f6 or super+alt+f6 should drop you to command prompt
[00:35] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: I can never remember which
[00:35] <syntroPi> wafflejockTablet, i think ubuntu uses network manager per default, just not sure where it takes the params for max txpower (100mW or 20dbm is unnecessary loud in my setup). Maybe from locale and driver, not sure though
[00:35] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: Then put in that command, and reboot
[00:36] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: That should, hopefully allow you to boot into you DM
[00:37] <paberlance> ok, i will reboot and tell you if it worked! stay here to tip you some bitcoins ;)
[00:37] <wafflejockTablet> syntroPi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74840/where-are-the-network-manager-configuration-files
[00:38] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: I don't want any money, I am just glad to help. Though, if you are dead set on give money to someone for help I recommend donating to Ubuntu or Red Cross.
[00:40] <Glyde> Hmm, second display still not working, it's 3rd gen integrated intel graphics, 2500. Splash screen on boot and shutdown display on it fine though.
[00:40] <Danato> does windows button alone have any function at all on kde?
[00:40] <Danato> i dont see anything changing or moving
[00:40] <gregor3005> hi, i encrypted one partition which holds data and added it to cryptab. during reboot ubuntu don't asked me for a password, i can only click "s" for skip
[00:40] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf (if you have one?)
[00:40] <Glyde> where can I find it?
[00:41] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:41] <wafflejockTablet> Danato: no there's some scripts to make it the launcher key
[00:42] <wafflejockTablet> Ksuperkey I think it was called,
[00:42] <wafflejockTablet> also a bug for mapping numpad keys so have to use an xbindkeys workaround
[00:43] <Glyde> here you are, seems to only contain my first monitor's info though http://pastebin.com/Nt8fqPy3
[00:43] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Sounds like that might be the problem then.
[00:43] <Danato> wafflejockTablet: thanks, I jst wanted to make sure before i binded it to minimize windows
[00:43] <Glyde> so, what can I do about it?
[00:43] <wafflejockTablet> Danato: don't think u can just use winkey its seen as a modifier
[00:44] <paberlance> well didn't work
[00:44] <wafflejockTablet> The numpads issue has to do with qt implementation mapping those as numbers instead of numpad apparently, but not easily fixable
[00:45] <wafflejockTablet> Without xbindkeys that is
[00:45] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: well, I am not sure how intel handles multiple monitors, but you are going to probably want to define the second monitor and a "screen" section that will allow you to display both. May also require xinerama (even though it;'s ancient)
[00:46] <Glyde> Well the intel card only handles the second monitor, an ATI card handles the first
[00:46] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: I don't use intel cards, so I can't give you specifics, but I recommend some google-fu on the (video card model here)+xorg+dual monitor
[00:46] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Ah, two cross brand models. you're probably going to HAVE to use xinerama if you want a seemless desktop
[00:46] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: What happened this time, the same thing?
[00:47] <Glyde> yeah, new ATI cards don't have VGA, and that's all my second monitor accepts
[00:47] <paberlance> yes, same thing
[00:47] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: What desktop environment do you use?
[00:47] <Glyde> I'll look into xinerama then
[00:47] <paberlance> ubuntu unity
[00:47] <paberlance> 13.10
[00:48] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: I'd drop to command line, remove unity and lightdm, then reinstall both
[00:48] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: then dpkg reconfigure lightdm
[00:49] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: reboot, and hope.
[00:49] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: If that fails, it could be that somehow root owns .Xauthority
[00:50] <paberlance> so i do sudo apt-get remove lightdm unity
[00:50] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: So it might be worth deleting /home/(user)/.Xauthority before reboot as well.
[00:50] <Beldar> unity is a plugin in compiz running in the ubuntu desktop meat package set
[00:51] <Beldar> meta*
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: I think unity is just a meta package
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: What beldar said.
[00:51] <Beldar> removing it will not remove it per-say
[00:53] <Mage_Dude> Any examples of valid files for ssh-keyscan -f <some.file>? No examples seem to exist and the recommended structure in the docs doesn't generate the correct information
[00:54] <paberlance> so i remove compiz as well? By now i deleted the .Xauthority and did an apt-get remove lightdm
[00:54] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: I don't use unity so I am not sure the package name, but try apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[00:54] <geekmasterflash> without the ?
[00:54] <Beldar> paberlance, I would try this and then reboot. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[00:55] <pgar231> test
[00:56] <Beldar> paberlance, Your basic info on the cause has no real cause and effect in any exacting manner.
[00:57] <paberlance> ok now just reboot? don't i have to reinstall the things first?
[00:57] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: Reinstall first
[00:58] <paberlance> or for me ANY displaymanager is fine
[00:58] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: Otherwise you wont have a DM or DE to boot into
[00:58] <paberlance> what do you use, or suggest?
[00:58] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: Reinstall, then dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[00:58] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: I use gdm and gnome
[00:59] <paberlance> to isntall that i have to "sudo apt-get install gdm gnome"?
[00:59] <geekmasterflash> paberlance: If you want use gnome and gdm, sure.
[01:01] <reek007> I just updated my system, and my firefox is no longer working.
[01:01] <reek007> can someone help, im running 12.04
[01:03] <Glyde> Can't seem to make sense of Xorg.conf, what do I need to do to add my second video card to it?
[01:04] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: So keep in mind I can only give you general pointers with xorg, I have only ever used nvidia cards so I really only know how to make them go
[01:04] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: But basically
[01:04] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: You need to define two device entries. One for each card
[01:05] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: If you look in your current xorg.conf you should see at least one of them
[01:05] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: That that should tell you the card, the model, the driver, and other options for the device
[01:05] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: You'll need to define another device for your other card
[01:05] <Glyde> so do I need to make another device section? or add onto the old one?
[01:05] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Another device section
[01:06] <Glyde> Alright, and where do I get the information to put in it?
[01:07] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Google is your friend here. There are usually many xorg.conf examples out there. There is bound to be one for the card you have
[01:07] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: You'll also want to make sure you install the drivers for your other card, since you will have to define the driver in the xorg.conf
[01:08] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: And if the driver doesnt exist, then you'll be in trouble.
[01:09] <Glyde> the intel site just redirected me to 01.org, the installer there didn't seem to do anything
[01:10] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: So the intel card is the one that is not defined already?
[01:10] <Glyde> yeah
[01:10] <Glyde> it's the one that comes with i5s, so not exactly uncommon
[01:12] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: I know next to nothing about intel drivers, so I am not sure I can help you there. I do see that 01.org has .deb installers
[01:12] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Did you use one of those?
[01:13] <varunendra> Glyde, which i5? 3rd gen?
[01:13] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: And did you try sudo apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installe
[01:13] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: And did you try sudo apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installer*
[01:14] <crocket> hi
[01:14] <Whitephoenix> Uhm Hi there...
[01:14] <Whitephoenix> I having a problem installing ubuntu
[01:14] <crocket> I want to tether my iphone 4 running iOS 7 via USB to my ubuntu machine.
[01:14] <crocket> Is it possible?
[01:14] <Glyde> yeah it's third gen
[01:14] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Care to be more specific?
[01:14] <Glyde> oh, I didn't know about that, I'll try it now
[01:15] <Whitephoenix> Indeed. Check it out: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f64/urgent-ubuntu-install-partitioning-help-751649.html#post4518881
[01:15] <Glyde> says the intel linux graphics driver is already installed
[01:16] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Ugh, gpt partitions.
[01:16] <Glyde> and I did run that deb, but I didn't see anything change
[01:16] <crocket> I'm running ubuntu 13.10
[01:16] <crocket> anyone?
[01:16] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Alright, you already have the driver installed then
[01:16] <forevertheuni> Hi, I was upgrading to saucy and the thing froze(went to sleep when I close the laptop monitor) it was in "installing updates" how can I resume it. I still have the python stuff in my /tmp directory. tnx
[01:17] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: So no worries, you need to make the device in xorg.conf
[01:17] <Glyde> ah ok, just need to find out what goes in it
[01:17] <Whitephoenix> ...What? Sorry a bit slower this time
[01:18] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: If you used gparted, it means you are dealing with a gpt partitioned hard drive
[01:18] <varunendra> Glyde, geekmasterflash one way to determine the associated driver with a VGA compatible card is : "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga" - it will show the associated driver (module) at the bottom of the output.
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Which can be hell to work with, especially on dualboot
[01:19] <Whitephoenix> I partitioned it with the windows thing, just viewing it with GParted
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: And if you try parted instead
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Does it spit out an error
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Asking you to use gparted?
[01:19] <Glyde> varu, that command only outputs my ATI card
[01:20] <Whitephoenix> It says something about having too many drives that are active if I remember correctly
[01:20] <forevertheuni> I did a dpkg --configure -a but the scripts do more than just install in the end...how can I cleanup properly?
[01:20] <varunendra> Glyde, does "sudo lshw -C display" show you the other graphics adapter?
[01:21] <Glyde> yes it does
[01:21] <nishttal2> hello ppl is this the right forum to ask a dual boot question (windows 7 + Ubuntu 13.10) ?
[01:22] <Whitephoenix> Hopefully because that's what I'm doing
[01:22] <nishttal2> I have 2 disks.. sda2 has Ubuntu 13.10 and sdb2 has windows 7.. ..
[01:23] <nishttal2> both OSs boot fine when I choose the corresponding disk from the BIOS boot options
[01:23] <varunendra> Glyde, I'm not a graphics troubleshooter, but I'd be interested in seeing the output of "lshw -C display" and "lsmod". Please give us its pastebin link
[01:23] <Glyde> ok, will do
[01:23] <nishttal2> how can I install something like GRUB that would give me a choice as to which OS to boot?
[01:24] <Glyde> lshw output http://pastebin.com/vABC4aBq
[01:24] <varunendra> geekmasterflash, I don't mean to barge in, you seem much more knowledgeable about graphics, please stay with us
[01:25] <geekmasterflash> varunendra: Sure thing, though I wouldn't say I know much. Just enough to muddle through most days.
[01:25] <Glyde> and lsmod output http://pastebin.com/chJNm3Yu
[01:27] <varunendra> Glyde, i915 is a common driver, quite mature at what it does. Is loaded already as well, so not sure what is left to do. Are you not getting any output from the VGA port?
[01:27] <Glyde> only on startup and shutdown
[01:28] <Glyde> it displays the splash screen
[01:28] <geekmasterflash> varunendra: There isn't a device defined in xorg..conf nor a second monitor defined
[01:30] <Glyde> yeah, trying to get the info to fill it out myself
[01:30] <varunendra> geekmasterflash, so is Glyde using a second monitor? I only saw one of his previous messages saying something like VGA is his only option..
[01:30] <Glyde> yeah the second monitor is a very old flatscreen with VGA only
[01:30] <geekmasterflash> varunendra: He/she has two cards and two monitors, the second monitor is VGA only
[01:30] <Glyde> which can only connect to the integrated card
[01:32] <varunendra> Hmm.. where xorg.conf comes into the scene, I better just sit and watch.. :|
[01:33] <Glyde> I figured out the BusID, but not the identifier or driver
[01:33] <geekmasterflash> Glyde, varunendra I am taking a call, please wait a moment
[01:34] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: I believe the driver will be "intel"
[01:34] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: And call the Indentifier "Card1"
[01:34] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Presuming card0 is taken by the other device
[01:35] <Glyde> the other card is "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
[01:35] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: For simplicity sake, you can rename that to Card0
[01:36] <Hilikus> can someone see anything wrong with my bootup sequence? it takes 70 seconds to boot, which doesn't seem normal to me
[01:36] <Hilikus> http://i.stack.imgur.com/B8YwB.png
[01:37] <Hilikus> i do have a mechanical hd
[01:37] <Glyde> I think that does for the device, do I need to add the screen itself?
[01:37] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Not yet
[01:37] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: You need to define a another monitor section
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> Hilikus, seem normal, in what context?
[01:38] <Hilikus> wilee-nilee: compared to bootup averages for ubuntu
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> Hilikus, which are and where do you get this info?
[01:39] <minimec> Hilikus: wilee-nilee: I never looked at my boot log, but isn't there concurrence between 'upstart-udev' and 'systemd-udevd'?
[01:39] <Glyde> so can I just copy the other monitor's information and change the identifier to Card1?
[01:39] <Glyde> or is there more to it?
[01:40] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: You dont want to do that, especially on a VGA device
[01:40] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: As you can damage it
[01:40] <paberlance> yea now i cant even boot. /dev /mapper isnt ready
[01:40] <Glyde> Fair enough
[01:41] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: You will need to get the right H-Sync and V-Sync stats for the monitor
[01:41] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: As well as supported resolutions
[01:42] <riyahno> haaaai
[01:42] <phix> wooooo!
[01:43] <Glyde> it's a 60hz display and supports most 4:3 resolutions. I actually don't know the model to say it's native resolution
[01:44] <kkkkkk> hi all, anybody using KDE HERE, i have both desktop environmnets but i like to use KDE most of time, i have a annoying problem, nautilus doesn't ask for password  but dolphin is asking for password everytime i try to mount any drive, why this is happening, i have upgraded to KDE.4.11.2 from 4.8.5
[01:44] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: If you can get the make and model, you should be able to find the right syncs
[01:44] <reisio> kkkkkk: 'cause, ask #kubuntu or #kde
[01:44] <Glyde> there isn't a sticker on it, windows knows what it is
[01:44] <Glyde> all I can really say
[01:44] <kkkkkk> hmmm, thanks reisio
[01:47] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Is it a flatscreen?
[01:47] <Glyde> yes
[01:48] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Alright, I guess copy the other monitor second but call it Monitor1 and have it connected to the other grahpics card
[01:48] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Hardly ideal, but without knowing it's make and model we can't safely assume anything
[01:48] <Glyde> yeah, it's a dell FPsomething from 2000
[01:49] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Please remember that if it blows up, I warned you.
[01:49] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Once you have both cards and monitors defined, you want to define a Screen section that incorporates both
[01:50] <Glyde> ah found the model, 1700FP
[01:50] <paberlance> what can i do now?
[01:51] <Glyde> the other monitor was set to generic autodetecting monitor though
[01:51] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Excellent
[01:51] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: I found the hsync and vsync for it
[01:52] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Create a monitor section
[01:52] <Swabby> Hello--- I'm trying to setup ssh keys on my VPS and i'm having a hell of a time. I generated the file out of putty, pasted it on the server as .ssh/jwalker(this is the user)/authorized_keys but when i try to ssh back in it says "Server refused our key"
[01:52] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Indentifier should be "Monitor1" or whichever the other monitor is not called
[01:52] <Glyde> k
[01:52] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: VendorName whould be "Dell"
[01:53] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: ModelName should be "1700FP"
[01:53] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: HorizSync       30.0 - 80.0
[01:53] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: VertRefresh     56.0 - 76.0
[01:53] <Glyde> those are in quotes right, the other monitor only has Option      "DPMS" "true"
[01:54] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Yes, in quotes with tab keyed spaces
[01:54] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: And leave the option DPMS as is, that should work
[01:57] <Glyde> ok, it's set, those refreshes seem high though
[01:58] <Glyde> I've never seen it capable of over 60hz
[01:58] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Now you need to define both screens
[01:58] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead this has a pretty good example
[01:58] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Xinerama
[01:59] <Glyde> alright, gimme a minute
[01:59] <Natalie-5274> hi
[01:59] <Natalie-5274> Which ones better i4 or i7?
[02:00] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: I wasn't aware there was an i4.
[02:00] <Natalie-5274> I mean i5.
[02:00] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: i7, in that is has more cores.
[02:01] <Natalie-5274> oh ok
[02:01] <Natalie-5274> Why would a computer with i5 be more than i7?
[02:01] <impossible> Natalie-5274, you mean the GHZ or price?
[02:01] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: A number of factors. Maybe it has a better graphics card or motherboard
[02:02] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Maybe someone is over charging.
[02:02] <minimec> Natalie-5274: I guess i5 vs. i7... Both have 4 cores, but the i7 has 8 threads (2 threads per core). So if you have some virtual machines running, you will 'feel' the power of the i7. Otherwise not really. I have a i5 3570 ivy bridge.
[02:02] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Why anything is priced the way it is in consumer electronics... I have no idea.
[02:03] <impossible> are there any actual deals on black friday
[02:03] <impossible> or its not worth waiting
[02:03] <Natalie-5274> So its better to get the computer with i7 then
[02:03] <minimec> Natalie-5274: Well there are some i5 mobile cpu that only have 2 cores and 4 threads.
[02:03] <reisio> Natalie-5274: than what?
[02:03] <k1l_> Natalie-5274: for more hardware support try ##hardware
[02:03] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Not exactly, it comes down to what you are trying to do with the machine
[02:04] <reisio> Natalie-5274: the difference between an i5 and i7 is not going to matter to roughly 500% of the population
[02:04] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: If you are just gonna browse the internet, both are total overkill.
[02:04] <reisio> yup
[02:04] <reisio> if it's a laptop, get the lower power one
[02:04] <Natalie-5274> well world of warcraft
[02:04] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: For example, I have an 8 core, 5 Ghz processor.
[02:04] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: But I run several VMs and play games
[02:05] <reisio> geekmasterflash: lies
[02:05] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Even then, this is more than I needed.
[02:05] <Natalie-5274> and that new game that is out
[02:05] <geekmasterflash> reisio: Ha, I can prove it
[02:05] <reisio> Natalie-5274: if it's games you're interested in, look to the _dedicated_ graphics processor
[02:05] <reisio> geekmasterflash: no you can't
[02:05] <Natalie-5274> and a file server
[02:05] <geekmasterflash> reisio: True I suppose, any log could be fake.
[02:05] <xubuntu_> hi
[02:06] <xubuntu_> i'm looking for help
[02:06] <reisio> geekmasterflash: tell me you have a POWER
[02:06] <Natalie-5274> probably also a astrisk server
[02:06] <geekmasterflash> reisio: If I told you it was an AMD FX-9590 8 Core OCed and water cooled
[02:06] <Natalie-5274> so my clan can chat while we kill the dragons and stuff
[02:06] <xubuntu_> can you help me with a xfs partition drive?
[02:06] <reisio> geekmasterflash: fine fine
[02:06] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: The i5 would be fine for that.
[02:07] <Natalie-5274> and also a team fortress 2 server with 32 players
[02:07] <Natalie-5274> can all of that run at the same time though?
[02:07] <reisio> Natalie-5274: yes, you'd have to worry more about your ISP / network infrastructure
[02:07] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Sure. Make sure you have a decently fast hard drive and lots of memory
[02:08] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Servers generally are pretty low on the processor requirement
[02:08] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: At least, game servers like thta
[02:08] <Glyde> well, think that's everything, going to reboot
[02:08] <Natalie-5274> i also want to mine bitcoins
[02:08] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Then your graphics card is more important
[02:08] <XFSharddrive> hi
[02:09] <Natalie-5274> and compile lots and lots of code
[02:09] <k1l_> Natalie-5274: mining bitcoins is not effective anymore. just buying them is cheaper.
[02:09] <Natalie-5274> how about litecoins then?
[02:09] <reisio> litecoin, heh
[02:09] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: K1l is right, the amount of power generated trying to mine the coin is usually more than the coin would be worth
[02:09] <Natalie-5274> so i7 is probably better
[02:10] <reisio> the litecoin website was down last I saw
[02:10] <Natalie-5274> well i have solar panels
[02:10] <Natalie-5274> and a water stream generator
[02:10] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Yeah, that wont even being to cover the losses.
[02:10] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Where I work we have 3 colo customers that are bit coin miners
[02:11] <Natalie-5274> so im off the grid
[02:11] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: Their power usage is huge
[02:11] <XFSharddrive> can you help me?
[02:11] <geekmasterflash> Natalie-5274: And they rarely have anything to show for it.
[02:11] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Any luck?
[02:11] <Glyde> well, I went from no output to an underscore
[02:11] <Glyde> so there's that
[02:11] <Natalie-5274> well i dont know why the i7 is cheaper than the i5 but if they're the same then i might as well get the i7
[02:12] <minimec> Natalie-5274: You would maybe see 15-20% better performance on compiling if you use all threads with the i7. Look at this. Tha would give you some overview on the i5 vs. i7 Ivy bridge. Not a huge difference...
[02:12] <daftykins> what odd discussions are going on in here tonight
[02:12] <minimec> Natalie-5274: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570
[02:12] <k1l_> Natalie-5274: there are different generations of i5 and i7. but again: that is not ubuntu related that is a topic for ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:13] <XFSharddrive> fuck off
[02:13] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: It's a step in the right direction at least.
[02:14] <Glyde> yeah, could you relink that program, I may have made a mistake
[02:14] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any errors
[02:14] <Glyde> sure
[02:14] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Xinerama
[02:17] <Glyde> no display related errors
[02:17] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: 0_o
[02:17] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: I'd call no display a pretty major error.
[02:17] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: I don't get how it can say that, since obviously something failed to load.
[02:19] <Glyde> let me look through these configs
[02:19] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[02:20] <zhanx> having epic fail night, is there an ubuntu touch room?
[02:20] <Glyde> http://pastebin.com/m2pbqDkC
[02:20] <xangua> !touch | zhanx
[02:20] <reisio> zhanx: /msg alis list *ubunt*touch*
[02:20] <bazhang> #ubuntu-touch zhanx
[02:21] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: I see a number of prblems
[02:21] <zhanx> thanks bazhang
[02:21] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Option      "VendorName" "Dell" should be VendorName "Dell"
[02:21] <geekmasterflash> No option
[02:21] <lachesis> is fglrx broken in ubuntu 13.10?
[02:21] <Glyde> I just used the syntax of the existing display
[02:21] <lachesis> i just want opencl.
[02:21] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: The only one labeled option should be "DPMS" "True" and "RightOf"
[02:22] <Glyde> I'm using fglrx fine, but you have to extract the .deb files from the .run first, there are directions are google
[02:22] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: They are both wrong
[02:22] <lachesis> Glyde, what gpu?
[02:22] <lachesis> i'm on a 5770
[02:22] <zhanx> figures new laptop with windows 8 wont install ubuntu and my tablet is not supported
[02:22] <lachesis> i get a black screen if i try to boot with fglrx
[02:22] <lachesis> and broken audio if i use radeon
[02:22] <lachesis> works great for music, but choppy and crappy with videos
[02:23] <Glyde> HD7850
[02:23] <lachesis> sigh, and my nvidia drivers aren't working on my arch box, and my printer drivers aren't working on my ubuntu box
[02:23] <zhanx> so now waiting on the vm to install to start making my own port for ubuntu touch
[02:23] <Glyde> I didn't edit the aticonfig sections btw
[02:23] <lachesis> linux video stack leaves a lot to be desired
[02:23] <Glyde> other than adding the primary true part
[02:23] <reisio> lachesis: how so?
[02:24] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Let me make some edits and I will pastebin it back for you
[02:24] <Glyde> ok
[02:24] <lachesis> reisio, terrible support for hybrid graphics, OSS drivers are years behind on performance and features, closed source drivers have constant compatibility issues
[02:24] <lachesis> reisio, last i checked, the nouveau project has basically given up on dynamic reclocking for kepler
[02:25] <lachesis> in that the one guy who was working on it hit a wall and stopped
[02:25] <Whitephoenix> So can anyone help me with this: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f64/urgent-ubuntu-install-partitioning-help-751649.html#post4518881 ?
[02:25] <Glyde> lachesis, had the same problem, let me see if I can find the directions I used
[02:25] <reisio> lachesis: 1) oh? 2) doesn't matter 'cause other OSes don't even have the open source drivers 3) same as on Windows
[02:25] <lachesis> Glyde, that'd be very helpful
[02:25] <lachesis> either 2 or 3 would be ok
[02:25] <lachesis> but 2+3 isn't
[02:25] <tking0037> A while ago on here, somebody wrote me a script with sed to replace &amp; with & Are you here, does anyone else know how to do it?
[02:26] <lachesis> tking0037, sed 's/&amp;/&/g'
[02:26] <lachesis> maybe?
[02:26] <reisio> there's no substitute for a professional selecting your hardware and installing the drivers on it for you :p
[02:26] <reisio> that isn't really GNU/Linux's fault
[02:26] <tking0037> tking0037: I'll give that a whack and let you know
[02:26] <lachesis> i haven't had many gpu compatibility issues on windows
[02:26] <reisio> lachesis: 'cause you didn't have to install the drivers yourself
[02:26] <lachesis> i mean, i had to run the nvidia installer
[02:26] <reisio> you did?
[02:26] <lachesis> yes?
[02:27] <tking0037> lachesis:no dice
[02:27] <darkangel> Curious* any 1 here Testing Ubuntu 14.04? =)
[02:27] <reisio> lachesis: your computer didn't come with nvidia's driver
[02:27] <Glyde> this might take a minute
[02:27] <lachesis> reisio, i reinstalled windows immediately
[02:27] <lachesis> to remove the bloatware
[02:27] <lachesis> sure, windows GPU drivers have compatibility problems, but nvidia/amd fix them in hours or days
[02:27] <lachesis> they don't bother with that on linux
[02:27] <reisio> lachesis: okay, did you try installing nvidia's driver from nvidia's installer on the machine from GNU/Linux?
[02:27] <lachesis> yeppers
[02:27] <reisio> 'cause that would be a useful comparison
[02:27] <lachesis> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/567297/linux/linux-3-10-driver-crash/
[02:28] <Whitephoenix> Anyone?
[02:28] <lachesis> kernel 3.10+ on arch doesn't work with nvidia's drivers
[02:28] <reisio> lachesis: so use a different kernel
[02:28] <lachesis> not asking for support for arch here, just bitching about the state of graphics on linux
[02:28] <reisio> again you're comparing a choice you don't even have on Windows with one you have on GNU/Linux
[02:28] <lachesis> reisio, well i don't want to just stay on 3.9 forever
[02:28] <reisio> :)
[02:28] <reisio> I feel you, it's just a silly complaint :p
[02:28] <Beldar> lachesis, The drivers come from manufacturers they are the culprits.
[02:28] <Glyde> ah found it, this is for mint but the process is the same http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=137660 read carefully as they also show what they did that didn't work
[02:28] <darkangel> Whitephoenix: what ya need?
[02:28] <lachesis> Beldar, not saying it's linux's fault either
[02:29] <lachesis> i'm taking a pragmatic approach here
[02:29] <Whitephoenix> This should explain it: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f64/urgent-ubuntu-install-partitioning-help-751649.html#post4518881
[02:29] <Beldar> lachesis, Then take your meds and relax.
[02:29] <lachesis> if i'm using windows, i can plug and unplug my machine from my external monitors and play games without problems
[02:29] <lachesis> on linux, i have to restart X to plug/unplug
[02:29] <lachesis> and choose between a performant closed source driver using the buggy linux-ck kernel that can't memsleep
[02:29] <zhanx> any one a whiz a making drivers?
[02:29] <lachesis> or a hobbled OSS driver using a stable linux kernel that can memsleep
[02:30] <OerHeks> Whitephoenix, what is your issue, that post does not say anything to me
[02:30] <lachesis> Glyde, thx
[02:30] <Whitephoenix> Well I'm having issues with partitions
[02:30] <Glyde> np, the issue is that the flgrx .run contains multiple versions in it
[02:31] <Whitephoenix> I created a partition called Ubuntu Linux in windows with 50 gigs
[02:31] <Glyde> I used the beta driver
[02:31] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, For?
[02:31] <Glyde> just change the .run's filename appropriately
[02:31] <Whitephoenix> Then when I go to install from live usb, it shows up with 173 gigs which is how much my C;/ drive has
[02:31] <lachesis> Glyde, eh i tried those steps
[02:32] <Whitephoenix> Well Idk what for, I just had lots of empty space and decided to start using ubuntu
[02:32] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, You can't make a partition for ubuntu in windows.
[02:32] <Glyde> the real directions are half way down
[02:32] <lachesis> sudo ./amd-catalyst-13.11-beta6-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/saucy
[02:32] <Whitephoenix> Wait what did I do then?
[02:32] <lachesis> sudo dpkg -i fglrx*
[02:32] <lachesis> sudo amdconfig --initial -f
[02:32] <lachesis> sudo reboot
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: http://pastebin.com/zwAunDXQ
[02:32] <Glyde> oh, and it still didn't work?
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: There, cleaned it up
[02:32] <lachesis> yep, blackscreen
[02:32] <Glyde> huh
[02:32] <Whitephoenix> Uh here I'll send some pictures
[02:32] <lachesis> yeah
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: And tried turning on xinerama
[02:33] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Replace your xorg with that
[02:33] <Glyde> thanks, lets see here
[02:33] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Reboot, and see if you've got anything
[02:33] <lachesis> Glyde, and it works about 70% under radeon
[02:33] <Whitephoenix> http://snag.gy/djT4r.jpg Is my drives in windows
[02:33] <lachesis> has a sound glitch while playing videos
[02:33] <lachesis> and my onboard 4xxx chip has no sound over hdmi any more
[02:33] <lachesis> mysteriously disappeared
[02:33] <lachesis> (before i started messing with fglrx or this card)
[02:33] <Whitephoenix> That ubuntu drive in ubuntu properties http://snag.gy/dIIY2.jpg
[02:34] <darkangel> are ya askin why its 44.9 GB on Ubuntu?
[02:34] <Whitephoenix> And the problematic drive list in GParted http://snag.gy/ALE6u.jpg
[02:34] <Whitephoenix> No
[02:34] <lachesis> considering using some black friday money to build a new server around a haswell i5
[02:34] <Whitephoenix> I'm asking why it shows as having 173 gigs in GParted which is how much my C drive has
[02:34] <lachesis> then i can stop screwing with amd drivers for hdmi
[02:34] <Whitephoenix> I don't want to accidently install over win7
[02:34] <lachesis> although i guess i should make sure the intel video drivers handle audio over hdmi *sigh*
[02:35] <Glyde> well, rebooting, brb again
[02:35] <Whitephoenix> If you still don't get it read the TSF post
[02:37] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, None of that really correlates partition size wise one is close though, I have the feeling you are confused.
[02:37] <darkangel> well Ubuntu 14.04 is gonna be Great for Gaming That is coming in April 17th 2014
[02:37] <OerHeks> Whitephoenix, why did you make a ntfs partition to install ubuntu on? that has made the red marks in your windows drive info
[02:37] <Whitephoenix> You'd be correct
[02:38] <OerHeks> Whitephoenix, ubuntu uses ext2/3/4 not an restricted ntfs filesystem
[02:38] <Whitephoenix> Uh IDK When I made the partition I googled which drive type was best for ubuntu and it said ntfs
[02:38] <Whitephoenix> oh...
[02:38] <Whitephoenix> can I somehow convert it
[02:38] <Whitephoenix> ?
[02:39] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, This W8 perchance?
[02:39] <Whitephoenix> No It's win7
[02:39] <OerHeks> i don't know, as the ubuuntu partition uses the same space as your windows..
[02:40] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, The gparted image from  a live cd?
[02:40] <Whitephoenix> What? I have a live USB I'm running ubuntu off of as I speak
[02:41] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Live is the key word, cd/dvd/usb.
[02:41] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, The gparted image is not the same in partitions or sizes as the windows image, except in the amount of 4.
[02:42] <Whitephoenix> Okay, think I got it. So what do I need to do to fix it?
[02:42] <Whitephoenix> Ps, sorry for being linux illerate
[02:43] <Whitephoenix> illiterate*
[02:43] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Well to start with 4 primary partitions is the max for a single HD.
[02:43] <Whitephoenix> So I should delete my ubuntu drive from windows?
[02:43] <pirret> trying to install ubuntu 12.04 to my old netbook via usb stick, mini.iso gives blank screen after configuring network, server iso says cannot find cd-drive or osmething like that when it starts to load stuff from a "cd" = usb stick
[02:44] <pirret> i have successfully installed debian using this same method earlier
[02:44] <pirret> so what might be wrong in case of ubuntu?
[02:45] <pirret> i used unetbootin and second time rufus to load ubuntu install files to usb stick
[02:45] <pirret> and again both methods did work with debian. any suggestions how to make this work with ubuntu?
[02:46] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, personally I would want to more details by having you run a script fro the usb, and an explanation of what you want exactly, you have a ntfs marked recovery there.
[02:46] <Whitephoenix> Okay, and I want to install ubuntu on a seperate drive not used by windows
[02:46] <k1l_> pirret: ubuntu got hybrid images. easiest way is to dd the desktop.iso onto a usb stick
[02:46] <pirret> i dont want any desktop stuff..
[02:47] <Whitephoenix> What's the command?
[02:47] <pirret> also i do not have any linux machines at home i could use dd
[02:47] <pirret> using windows on desktop
[02:47] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Does any of that HD supposedly have windows on it?
[02:48] <Whitephoenix> The ubuntu drive? No
[02:48] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Do you have windows installed at all?
[02:48] <Whitephoenix> Yes I do
[02:49] <Whitephoenix> It uses drives C D and E
[02:49] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Where and are you sure it still boots?
[02:49] <Whitephoenix> Drives C D and E, and yes it does boot
[02:49] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, I can't help you this is not really any clear communication, good luck.
[02:50] <Whitephoenix> well any recommendations on where to get help?
[02:51] <patrick> test
[02:51] <Guest68736> bye
[02:51] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: He's saying he would help, but he needs more information from you.
[02:51] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, This is the right place, here C, D, E mean nothing to start with.
[02:51] <Whitephoenix> Oh okay
[02:52] <Whitephoenix> You asked where windows was installed, it's on C, D, and E drives
[02:52] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: That doesnt tell us anything
[02:52] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Drive C could be a harddrive, D a partition, and E a thumbdrive
[02:52] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: We don't speak windows
[02:52] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: We need to know what the devices themselves are.
[02:52] <Whitephoenix> C Is windows, D is HP tools, E is recovery
[02:53] <pirret> :-D
[02:53] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, For example on the gparted image we see sda1,, sda2, sda3, sda4 that tells us the partition number and the HD.
[02:53] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: So likely partitions all on the same harddrive.
[02:53] <Whitephoenix> Yes they are
[02:53] <Whitephoenix> It's a laptop with only one HArd drive
[02:53] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Now tell us what you get when you run gparted -l
 Whitephoenix, Does any of that HD supposedly have windows on it? <Whitephoenix> The ubuntu drive? No
[02:54] <Whitephoenix> "Root privleges are required for running Gparted
[02:54] <Whitephoenix> Yes it does.
[02:54] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: sudo gparted -l
[02:54] <Beldar> WhiteDawn, This says when I ask if ubuntu is on that HD no, but yest now you say yes.
[02:54] <Whitephoenix> Could not stat device -l - No such file or directory.
[02:54] <Beldar> yet*
[02:54] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: sudo parted -l
[02:55] <Whitephoenix> No error that time
[02:55] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: And what did it display?
[02:55] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Use pastebin
[02:56] <Whitephoenix> It doesn't say anything with sudo parted -l
[02:56] <Whitephoenix> sudo Gparted -l says libparted 2.3
[02:57] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Are you typing l like like, or I like igloo
[02:57] <Whitephoenix> l as in like
[02:58] <Whitephoenix> Oh it did something now
[02:58] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Care to elucidate?
[02:58] <Whitephoenix> Umm trying to paste pastebin
[02:58] <Whitephoenix> Here you are: http://pastebin.com/Km2LcwZt
[02:59] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Is that enough for you to work with?
[03:00] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: I know nothing about gpt, and I dont wanna help him brick his stuff
[03:02] <sassamo> where is the channel where I can gripe about noob problems?
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: Hmm, now do sudo fdisk -l
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: and pastebin the result
[03:02] <Whitephoenix> alrighty
[03:02] <Glyde> I'm back
[03:02] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Long time, I assume you ran into problems?
[03:02] <Beldar> sassamo, we can help you minus the gripes.
[03:02] <Glyde> yeah, that config broke the working display
[03:03] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Sorry, should have warned you.
[03:03] <Glyde> I'm stuck in the command line only, xorg won't start
[03:03] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: When working with xorg.conf
[03:03] <Whitephoenix> Here you are: http://pastebin.com/U8jHW0fm
[03:03] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: You may have to get to know the commandline
[03:03] <Glyde> and now I'm on a 300mhz PII
[03:03] <pirret> lol
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: On the machine with the problem, type rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Once removed, reboot.
[03:04] <sassamo> Well Beldar I was trying to mount ubuntu 13 iso using disk utility restore on a partitioned SD card and it sed Could not validate source - invalid argument
[03:05] <Beldar> sassamo, Is disk utility restore an apple app?
[03:06] <sassamo> yeah
[03:06] <Beldar> sassamo, Not really a ubuntu issue other than it is a ubuntu ISO?
[03:06] <sassamo> correct Beldar
[03:06] <Beldar> sassamo, So what is the end goal?
[03:07] <sassamo> use ubuntu to excavate a HD that is blue screening
[03:08] <Beldar> sassamo, Hmm, what is the partition types on the HD?
[03:08] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: What is the problem, these all look fine.
[03:08] <Glyde> it's rebooting, also man this is slow
[03:09] <Glyde> I don't miss this PC
[03:09] <Whitephoenix> When I try to install ubuntu on my ubuntu partition I made, the information it displays is that of my C drive, and I don't want to mess it up
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Once it's back up let me know. I will make an edit to that xorg.conf that removes xinerama to see if that caused the issue
[03:10] <geekmasterflash> Whitephoenix: So long as you don't choose to format it, you shouldn't
[03:10] <Glyde> now it won't even boot to the command line, just blackscreen
[03:10] <Whitephoenix> So just install it in my ubuntu/c drive and don't format?
[03:10] <pirret> it is not possible
[03:10] <linuxlite1969> hi
[03:11] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, That HD is been made dynamic
[03:11] <Beldar> has*
[03:11] <pirret> you are provavly picking wrong device
[03:11] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Try super+alt+f6 or ctrl+alt+f6
[03:11] <Beldar> or is dynamic
[03:11] <linuxlite1969> anyone here knows how to use/conf blueman?
[03:11] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: That should drop you to command line
[03:11] <linuxlite1969> ?
[03:12] <linuxlite1969> i cant connect my phone to blueman
[03:12] <Glyde> it didn't, booting intpo recovery mode
[03:12] <Glyde> in the recovery root prompt now
[03:12] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, http://askubuntu.com/questions/41667/how-is-sfs-partition-different-than-other  then look at the link oh Whitephoenix
[03:12] <linuxlite1969> are there any drivers needed?
[03:12] <Beldar> of*
[03:13] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Ah, I learned something new.
[03:14] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, I suspetd this but could nit really get any information from them.
[03:14] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Just gotta speak noob.
[03:14] <linuxlite1969> anyone here?
[03:14] <Whitephoenix> As you can tell, I'm quite fluent in noobinese
[03:15] <linuxlite1969> i cant connect my phone to my laptop i need it ASAP
[03:15] <Glyde> well, now what, I have a command prompt and no xorg.conf
[03:15] <xangua> !noob | geekmasterflash Whitephoenix
[03:16] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Do you have anything in windows you need, and do you have install disc?
[03:16] <Whitephoenix> Yes, I do, and No I do not
[03:16] <Whitephoenix> Sorry
[03:16] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Well ubuntu will not install on a dynamic HD.
[03:17] <Glyde> a repair windows install is good if you are bluescreening and need your data, MS has free disc downloads if you have a burner
[03:17] <Glyde> done that more than once
[03:17] <Whitephoenix> So I can't install then?
[03:18] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, NOt as is.
[03:18] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Without an xorg.conf ubuntu should still boot to graphics
[03:18] <Whitephoenix> And changing it would mess with windows stuff, correct?
[03:18] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: So I am a bit confused, what version of Linux?
[03:19] <Glyde> 13.10
[03:20] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, I hesitant to go any further, we have not found if it was dynamic to start with or was made dynamic by going over 4 primary partitions, it's a bit of a mess is all.
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: http://pastebin.com/m2pbqDkC
[03:20] <Beldar> I'm
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: This is your previous (sort of) working xorg config
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Try restoring that and rebooting.
[03:21] <Whitephoenix> It is an older laptop. Like 3-4 years or so
[03:22] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, If you have images/clones of the windows install and there not dynamic, or an install disc this would be an easy fix.
[03:22] <Glyde> don't have my link from earlier?
[03:23] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: http://pastebin.com/m2pbqDkC is your link
[03:23] <Whitephoenix> Part of the problem is that I don't
[03:24] <guzzlefry> hello
[03:25] <geekmasterflash> guzzlefry: Hey.
[03:25] <Beldar> WhiteDawn, Notice this link the system info says SFS like your link this means dynamic, there is a link there for options. However some windows are dynamic to start with, so as I said we don;t know if this has been the case or is now the case by going over the 4 primary partition limit. http://askubuntu.com/questions/41667/how-is-sfs-partition-different-than-other
[03:25] <Glyde> ah ok, sorry for the delay, believe it or not runningweb irc and pastebin is overheating my laptop
[03:25] <guzzlefry> Is there a way to test new sshd settings without killing the current connection?
[03:25] <guzzlefry> Trying to avoid locking myself out. ;)
[03:25] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: A sad state of affairs.
[03:26] <Beldar> Beldar, I have the feeling you do not know if they were dynamic to begin with.
[03:26] <fixmypc956> hello
[03:26] <fixmypc956> Newbie here
[03:26] <Toph> i'm running ubuntu 13.04 and can't keep a stable connection with my router,, I'm dropped after 20 seconds of connect time often
[03:26] <Toph> ang ideas?
[03:26] <geekmasterflash> Toph: Have you ruled out the router as the cause of the issue?
[03:26] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, Notice this link the system info says SFS like your link this means dynamic, there is a link there for options. However some windows are dynamic to start with, so as I said we don;t know if this has been the case or is now the case by going over the 4 primary partition limit. http://askubuntu.com/questions/41667/how-is-sfs-partition-different-than-other . I have the feeling you do not know i
[03:26] <Beldar> f they were dynamic to begin with.
[03:27] <Beldar> heh messed up those posts
[03:27] <fixmypc956> trying to build NAS and media server with Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS
[03:28] <fixmypc956> i have installed OS onto 8GB usb stick
[03:28] <linuxlite1969> hello
[03:28] <Beldar> fixmypc956, Full install?
[03:28] <linuxlite1969> i need help
[03:28] <fixmypc956> I also have a 1TB HD installed but only want to use it for the files
[03:28] <linuxlite1969> anyone
[03:28] <fixmypc956> server install only
[03:28] <Tex_Nick> 13.10 gnome fallback/flashback de ... XChat, bluefish & libreoffice calc ... when trying to open a hyperlink ... firefox just opens a new window with my home page "www.google.com" ... wondering if anyone else has that issue ?
[03:29] <Whitephoenix> I don't know so how would I find out?
[03:29] <geekmasterflash> linuxlite1969: Care to elucidate?
[03:29] <fixmypc956> no gui
[03:29] <linuxlite1969>  well my bluetooth manager is not working
[03:29] <linuxlite1969> http://picpaste.com/bluetooth-qMtn2rsp.png see for your self
[03:30] <linuxlite1969> ...
[03:30] <Toph> geekmasterflash,,, my other computers maintain a connection,,, window computers
[03:30] <geekmasterflash> Toph: Are they closer to the router than you are currently?
[03:31] <fixmypc956> can anyone help
[03:31] <linuxlite1969> windows computers are expensive
[03:31] <Toph> geekmasterflash,,, no,,, same location
[03:31] <xangua> linuxlite1969: what ubuntu release are you running? did it worked before you installed it? did it worked in the love session?
[03:31] <Beldar> Whitephoenix, You might ask in ##windows if you are registered with freenode, generally you would know if you realized you broke the more than 4 primary partition limit, or some other partitioning that caused this if that is the case
[03:31] <linuxlite1969> well i have linux lite 1.0.6 running this is the first time im going to run this manager
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> Toph: Is the laptop a dual boot machine?
[03:32] <xangua> linuxlite1969: this is the ubuntu support channel, you are in the wrong channel...good luck
[03:33] <linuxlite1969> well linux lite is ubuntu anyway
[03:34] <fixmypc956> Can someone help me in setting up NAS with Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS
[03:35] <Beldar> fixmypc956, Did you fully install this to the usb or load the iso to it?
[03:35] <geekmasterflash> linuxlite1969: https://www.linuxliteos.com/support.html
[03:35] <fixmypc956> full install to usb
[03:35] <geekmasterflash> linuxlite1969: They have their own support chat on this very server
[03:35] <geekmasterflash> linuxlite1969: I'd suggest asking them there.
[03:35] <linuxlite1969> no one is there
[03:35] <linuxlite1969> i was there
[03:36] <fixmypc956> no gui though
[03:36] <geekmasterflash> linuxlite1969: Then I am sorry. Even though it's based on LTS it's impossible for us know if it's not modified to the point our advice may do more harm than good
[03:37] <impossible> hi :)
[03:37] <geekmasterflash> linuxlite1969: That said, I have never gotten bluetooth to work right, so I am the last person that can help.
[03:37] <linuxlite1969> ok thanks then.
[03:38] <linuxlite1969> hahaha, at least i know that there is someone in the world like me who cannot make a bluetooth work hahaha
[03:38] <fixmypc956> packages install during install include LAMP, SSH server and SAMBA
[03:39] <fixmypc956> I want to be able to access it remotely when necessary and thru webgui when possible
[03:40] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Like FreeNAS?
[03:40] <fixmypc956> yes something like that
[03:40] <crocket> It's weird.
[03:41] <fixmypc956> but also want to have CLI when I want it
[03:41] <crocket> I installed mt7601Usta wireless driver, and it causes kernel panic whenever I use the internet on X11.
[03:41] <crocket> mt7601Usta doesn't cause a kernel panic when I use the internet on a virtual terminal.
[03:41] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: FreeNAS has CLI... but I digress
[03:41] <crocket> I'm running ubuntu 13.10 64bit
[03:41] <crocket> Anything wrong?
[03:41] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: I am sure the same thing can be done with Ubuntu.
[03:42] <fixmypc956> well I've been reading alot about it and it can be done
[03:42] <fixmypc956> where I am stumpped at the moment is trying to setup the 1TB drive that I have installed as the drive for my files
[03:43] <fixmypc956> I want to keep the OS running from the USB drive
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: What's the issue?
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Oh.
[03:44] <fixmypc956> later on when I buy another HD i may setup RAID but for now I only have one drive
[03:44] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Got gui back?
[03:44] <crocket> Help me
[03:45] <fixmypc956> anyone
[03:46] <earlax> Hello, I'm trying to install a package from a third-party repo.  I have added the repo, and I see the version I want in the output of 'apt-cache show <package>' but the package name overlaps with one from the default repo.   How can I specify which package to install/which repo to install from?
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: So, have you set the usb devices to be the boot device in bios?
[03:47] <fixmypc956> yes...I have the system running at the moment
[03:47] <fixmypc956> that part is done
[03:47] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Well, the way I would do it is sort of messy...
[03:48] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: I'd leave all the nessicary boot info on the usb stick and then create symbolic links on the usb leading to folders on the hard disc
[03:49] <fixmypc956> ok thats where Im stuck
[03:49] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: How so?
[03:49] <fixmypc956> I cant seem to get that done
[03:49] <fixmypc956> I cant see the HD
[03:49] <fixmypc956> I know that I havent even formatted that drive to any kind of filesystem
[03:50] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Pastebin the results of sudo parted - l and sudo fdisk -l
[03:50] <fixmypc956> ok one min
[03:52] <fixmypc956> cant pastebin since its on another comp that the one im on
[03:52] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: That doesn't make sense.
[03:52] <fixmypc956> I can tell you that parted -l gives me only the info to the usb drive
[03:52] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: And fdisk?
[03:53] <fixmypc956> only showing the usb device
[03:53] <fixmypc956> not the HD
[03:54] <BuenGenio> Good day
[03:54] <fixmypc956> USB has 3 partitions like normal...linux, extended and swap
[03:54] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Check the disk's cabling, cause unless it was absconded by ninja
[03:54] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: it's gotta be somewhere
[03:55] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: You can also try blkid | egrep 'sd[a-z]'
[03:55] <fixmypc956> well when I started the install it did show the HD but I didnt use it for the OS
[03:55] <BuenGenio> running 13.10 on a Sony Vaio with a synaptics trackpad, and despite setting synclient PalmDetect=1 and tweaking PalmWidth values, it has no effect
[03:56] <BuenGenio> I can't type without constantly moving the mouse and clicking randomly all over the place
[03:56] <BuenGenio> any idea how to fix the isse?
[03:56] <geekmasterflash> BuenGenio: Are you on a laptop with a touchpad?
[03:56] <BuenGenio> yes
[03:56] <BuenGenio> trackpad
[03:56] <BuenGenio> it's more like what you see on a mac
[03:57] <Nilabhra> hey guys need help here, I am having probs viewing photos in facebook from kubuntu, most image are not coming, I tried tracerouting to their url, says unknwon host, I checked the hosts file too all okay... tried both firefox and rekonq ... my winodws is is loading the pcis all fine
[03:57] <frustro> so MAAS open stack.
[03:57] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: Tracerouting a url won't do you any good
[03:57] <frustro> any takers on a smart guy building one for the first time?
[03:57] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: Traceroute the server
[03:58] <frustro> need to replace citrix 3.0 (EOL '99)
[03:58] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: yeah, I that only..
[03:58] <frustro> 100 win7x64 desktops.
[03:58] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: so for example... fb1.facebook.com/what/ever/ you'd trace fb1.facebook.com
[03:58] <frustro> to 100 thin clients in a pool.
[03:58] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: exactly did that
[03:58] <fixmypc956> nothing with blkid | egrep 'sd[a-z]'
[03:58] <frustro> PM me if you wanna help, I'll idle till them
[03:58] <frustro> *then
[03:59] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: Okay tell me the server name
[03:59] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: Or at least one, that told you it failed
[03:59] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net
[04:00] <fixmypc956> hey fdisk does show the HD there
[04:01] <fixmypc956> it shows it as /dev/sda
[04:01] <fixmypc956> and my usb as /dev/sba
[04:01] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: umm ?
[04:01] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: Well, I can trace it, but that's it. It's otherwise showing as offline.
[04:02] <Keda87> what is the pro and cons installing ubuntu with wubi?
[04:03] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: :/ me frustrated, having this prob since 5 days now..
[04:03] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: As for why windows might be working and Linux not, it might have to do with caching (having seen the page before)
[04:03] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: According to is it down
[04:03] <Nilabhra> Keda87: well wubi will give u slower disk access speeds
[04:03] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: It's down
[04:04] <Keda87> Nilabhra, any else?
[04:04] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: exactly, I checked up the images in firefox, shows that those which are not showing as (not cached)
[04:04] <xangua> Keda87: that wubi is no longer maintained and is incompatible with uefi
[04:04] <Nilabhra> Keda87: ya that too
[04:05] <Keda87> waht is uefi?
[04:05] <Nilabhra> Keda87: and you have trouble with compiz
[04:05] <frustro> lol Keda87
[04:05] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: I don't use facebook normally, so I don't have it cached. On my windows machine, it's also unable to reach anything at that address
[04:06] <frustro> is easy terms, it's a CLI for bootloaders
[04:06] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: I can ping it, trace it, but that's all
[04:06] <Keda87> Nilabhra, i'm installed ubuntu 12.04 with wubi inside my wndows and my conpiz run perfectly
[04:06] <Keda87> frustro, ???
[04:06] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: so thats the prob ... fb is the prob here..
[04:06] <geekmasterflash> Nilabhra: Oh, I thought you were saying it was Ubuntu
[04:06] <Nilabhra> Keda87: you got good processor then :)
[04:06] <fixmypc956> geekmasterflash: with fdisk I can see both the usb drive and the HD
[04:06] <Glyde> welso, retyped my xorg.conf and now I can't save it, read only file system
[04:07] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: I thout thet was the prob at first, not it seems fb is.. my windows works cuz I normally use fb there so has all those stuffs pre cached
[04:08] <frustro> Keda87 you should not need to know what uefi is if you are not aware what uefi does.  whether enabled or disabled your OS install will figure it out.
[04:08] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: but still you can atleast ping it... I cant  :(
[04:08] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Okay, what does it call the drive? sdX?
[04:08] <fixmypc956> sda
[04:09] <fixmypc956> with anykind of partition
[04:09] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Anykind?
[04:10] <fixmypc956> without a partition of any kind
[04:11] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Ok, so try sudo parted /dev/sda
[04:11] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: Did you open it in a text editor with sudo rights?
[04:12] <geekmasterflash> Glyde: IE: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:13] <Nilabhra> geekmasterflash: okay gotta go, thanks for the help
[04:13] <fixmypc956> showing (parted)
[04:13] <dachi> hello. i am developing a ruby application. it connects to a remote server and executes a ssh command there, that server runs ubuntu. my problem is that ssh-agent is not running and it has to be run manually everytime on login, also corresponding id_rsa has to be added by ssh-add. how should I approach this, how should I make ssh-agent be running with added files?
[04:14] <cfhowlett> dachi, could be this is better suited to the #ruby channel?
[04:15] <dachi> but, why? i don't think so
[04:15] <Glyde> it was in a root recovert console, it should be
[04:15] <dachi> okay i 'll go
[04:15] <fixmypc956> geekmasterflash: how do I pastebin
[04:16] <fixmypc956> Im using putty on my windows comp and I can connect to the server at this point
[04:16] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: Highlight, copy, paste into http://pastebin.com/
[04:19] <fixmypc956> GNU Parted 2.3
[04:19] <fixmypc956> Using /dev/sda
[04:19] <fixmypc956> Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
[04:19] <fixmypc956> (parted)
[04:19] <FloodBot1> fixmypc956: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <fixmypc956> geekmasterflash: http://pastebin.com/Vsaq39kg
[04:21] <zhang> quit
[04:29] <fixmypc956> can anyone else help me with my dilemma
[04:30] <xmetal> !ask
[04:30] <Ben64> fixmypc956: you'd have to describe it first
[04:32] <fixmypc956> I installed ubuntu server onto usb drive, I have a 1TB HD that I dont know how to save files to
[04:32] <fixmypc956> I was looking for some help. I can see the HD with fdisk but it doesnt show it has any partitions
[04:32] <it> Good evening everyone
[04:33] <it> Good night from California
[04:35] <Ben64> fixmypc956: so you want to format the drive?
[04:36] <wheatthin> fixmypc956, you most likely have a GPT partitioning, use sudo parted -l     instead
[04:39] <fixmypc956> wheatthin: http://pastebin.com/1qFBaHKw
[04:40] <kevin> hey guys. i'm thinking about using a password manager to create unique passwords for all the sites i use. does anybody have any experience with any password managers? preferably cross-platform
[04:42] <wheatthin> kevin, Umm why not just use something with dual authentication? like google chrome/chromium?
[04:43] <xmetal> i still haven't gotten the firefox addon to work correctly in Mint (yes yes i know i know ... different distro) though i am a fan of KeepPass
[04:44] <xmetal> think there is even a KeepPassX "fork" of the same app
[04:44] <kevin> wheatthin: what do you mean? guess i should google that...
[04:44] <kevin> wheatthin: do you mean, save password in google chrome and then use google chrome's "login to chrome" feature?
[04:45] <mmlj4> what is the gnome or unity (or whatever comes default) application for some sort of xterm? in KDE I'd run konsole, etc.
[04:45] <wheatthin> yup.. but they have a thing with their accounts with dual authentication & encryption
[04:45] <wheatthin> mmlj4, terminal
[04:45] <mmlj4> thanks
[04:46] <wheatthin> fixmypc956, and is there something significant I should be looking for?
[04:47] <Glyde> done that more than once
[04:47] <kevin> wheatthin: okay, cool. do you know off the top of your head if i can view the saved passwords as well? say, for example, i am at a friend's place and i need to log in to service X and don't want them to have to download chrome.
[04:48] <fixmypc956> I am trying to set up the HD to that I can store all files there and nothing other than OS on the USB
[04:48] <fixmypc956> and I dont know how to do that
[04:49] <kevin> ack, gotta reboot real quick. thanks wheatthin for the insight.
[04:54] <n8_8nt_gr8> Hello all
[04:54] <xmetal> hmm
[04:54] <xmetal> he left
[04:55] <xmetal> (though it did get hacked and they admitted it right away, and didn't hide that) awhile back ... LastPass (i know there is a firefox plugin, and am pretty sure a chrome-based plugin) may be the type of thing he's looking for
[04:55] <n8_8nt_gr8> Would anyone mind helping me diagnose and resolves some webcam issues?
[04:55] <xmetal> i haven't really used it since then but I do like the fact they were up front with it ... didn't try to hide it
[04:57] <n8_8nt_gr8> It would be much appreciated...
[04:58] <n8_8nt_gr8> :(
[04:58] <xmetal> !details
[05:01] <n8_8nt_gr8> I have a problem with using my built-in webcam in my Toshiba sattelite running the latest version of ubuntu. In both of my browsers (Firefox and Chromium), when it prompts me to allow use of my webcam, it will not let me click or accept the prompt. The webcam is visible and works just fine in programs like Cheese, it seems to be an issue inside the browser.
[05:01] <n8_8nt_gr8> Could anyone help me out with this issue?
[05:06] <sam113101> dejected: are the websites using flash?
[05:07] <dejected> I'm not sure -- It's happened with every site I've tried so far. Webcamtoy, Omegle, Chatroulette, they all have the same issue.
[05:07] <locoloco> @n8_8nt_gr8: for chrome(ium), have you tried installing the Google Hangouts plugin?
[05:07] <locoloco> https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangoutplugin
[05:08] <dejected> @locoloco No, I haven't. I'll give it a go.
[05:08] <fixmypc956> how do I mount new 1TB HD with ext4 filesystem on new install of ubuntu server 12.04 LTS
[05:09] <locoloco> @dejected: had similar issue myself but the plugin took care of web based video
[05:09] <sam113101> dejected: try there instead: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[05:09] <noobsz> I'm having trouble accessing shares with samba on Windows 7
[05:10] <xangua> dejected: you can use adobe-flash-properties-gtk to manage flash permissions from a gtk app
[05:10] <sam113101> dejected: select a website, such as omegle, and make sure you select "always allow"
[05:10] <noobsz> I've done a little googling looking around and done a few edits to my smb,conf
[05:10] <sam113101> and NOT ask
[05:10] <noobsz> but to no avail
[05:10] <dejected> The thing is, it will prompt we to accept use of the webcam, it simply wont let me click the "accept" button, as odd as that sounds.
[05:11] <sam113101> dejected: I know what it is, I've had the same problem
[05:12] <dejected> @sam113101 Oh, good. Did you find a solution to the problem?
[05:13] <sam113101> dejected: no, but I used the page I gave you as a workaround until it magically got fixed (either by updating flash or reinstalling, can't remember)
[05:13] <Ghostx562> hello guys
[05:13] <Ghostx562> Looking for help on a ubuntu server, channel name?
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !server
[05:14] <dejected> Sam, I'll give that a go and get back to you on weather or not it worked. Thanks for the help!
[05:14] <Ghostx562> cfhowlett, thanks!
[05:14] <sam113101> dejected: no problem
[05:15] <CoJaBo> .wc
[05:16] <jeffrey3234> how would i enable /dev/hidraw0?
[05:16] <noobsz> apparently smbpasswd doesn't work either
[05:18] <noobsz> could anyone tell me why Windows 7 is asking for a password to access a shared folder on Ubuntu?
[05:19] <locoloco> @noobsz: what permissions do you have on the ubuntu directory?
[05:19] <dejected> @sam113101 ; I apologize for my ignorance in this matter, but how di
[05:19] <noobsz> drwxrwxrwx
[05:20] <dejected> do I access that options menu for Adobe?
[05:20] <locoloco> and the ownership?
[05:20] <noobsz> owner is me
[05:20] <sam113101> dejected: what do you mean?
[05:21] <noobsz> I changed the workgroup in the conf because I couldn't see them in Win 7 now I can see them
[05:21] <noobsz> just can't access them
[05:21] <dejected> How do I get to the Adobe settings manager that is used to allow websites to use the webcam
[05:22] <linuxlite1969> how do i remove the whole indicator applet even the indicator itself
[05:22] <linuxlite1969> its bugging me
[05:23] <linuxlite1969> ive done removing all the indicator-*-*
[05:23] <sam113101> dejected: I gave you a direct link, it should take you there
[05:23] <sam113101> unless you mean, how did I find it?
[05:23] <linuxlite1969> the applet,applet-complete
[05:23] <linuxlite1969> everything is remove except the Applications Places and the panel at the bottom
[05:23] <locoloco> @noobsz: try winscp [ http://winscp.net/eng/index.php ]
[05:23] <linuxlite1969> i want to get rid of it
[05:24] <linuxlite1969> anyone?
[05:24] <locoloco> It's an incomplete solution but a solution nonetheless.
[05:24] <dejected> The link is what takes me to the -- oh.
[05:24] <dejected> ohhh.
[05:25] <ThisIsCool> hello
[05:25] <cfhowlett> ThisIsCool, greetings
[05:25] <ThisIsCool> how do i remove the whole indicator applet even the indicator itself
[05:25] <ThisIsCool> ive done removing all the indicator-*-*
[05:25] <ThisIsCool> the applet,applet-complete
[05:25] <ThisIsCool> everything is remove except the Applications Places and the panel at the bottom
[05:26] <ThisIsCool> any suggestions
[05:26] <ThisIsCool> ??
[05:26] <ThisIsCool> would be appreciated
[05:26] <ThisIsCool> thanks in advance
[05:26] <dejected> See now, I thought that was simply a picture.... Oh my, I feel rather silly x.x
[05:26] <Nilabhra> FloodBot1: yo
[05:27] <ThisIsCool> anyone
[05:27] <sam113101> dejected: haha, yeah it's a bit confusing at first
[05:27] <fixmypc956> how to i add a filesystem to HD
[05:28] <locoloco> @noobsz: I've got to jet... hope you can get it working. Good luck!
[05:29] <dejected> And, eureka!
[05:29] <ThisIsCool> ive tried killall gnome-panel but it keeps coming back
[05:29] <ThisIsCool> anyone
[05:29] <dejected> Much obliged @sam13101 !
[05:29] <ThisIsCool> please im begging you
[05:30] <Ari-Yang> lol
[05:30] <cfhowlett> !patience|ThisIsCool,
[05:30] <ThisIsCool> ok got it thansk
[05:30] <ThisIsCool> thanks
[05:30] <sam113101> what are you trying to accomplish ThisIsCool?
[05:30] <ThisIsCool> like i said i want to unistall gnome-panel for real
[05:31] <ThisIsCool> my problem is i dont know how im a noob
[05:31] <sam113101> ThisIsCool: why do you want to uninstall it?
[05:31] <ThisIsCool> its bugging me, i have xfce panel
[05:32] <sam113101> ThisIsCool: have you installed the entire xfce environment, or just xfce panel?
[05:32] <ThisIsCool> i accidentally installed gnome panel after installing gnome-bluetooth
[05:33] <sam113101> is this xubuntu? or just ubuntu with xfce?
[05:33] <ThisIsCool> its linuxlite by the way
[05:33] <sam113101> "sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel" should do it
[05:34] <ThisIsCool> ok ill try
[05:34] <ThisIsCool> well its done but the panel is still there
[05:34] <ThisIsCool> what should i do?
[05:34] <sam113101> ThisIsCool: log out and log back in
[05:34] <ThisIsCool> well ok
[05:34] <cfhowlett> ThisIsCool, sudo apt-get purge gnome-panel
[05:36] <ThisIsCool> well hello again im bask
[05:36] <sam113101> wb
[05:36] <sam113101> did it work?
[05:37] <ThisIsCool> works like charm thanks
[05:37] <ThisIsCool> hahaha
[05:38] <sam113101> no problem
[05:38] <ThisIsCool> ;)
[05:46] <apm1> i have a laptop with raedon-intel hybrid graphics
[05:46] <apm1> will 13.10 work ootb for GPU switching ?
[05:47] <apm1> like with GPU intensive stuff the sytem will automatically switch to the raedon and for simple word processing web browsing the intel gpu will be used ?
[05:47] <grubles> apm1, it should with mir
[05:48] <apm1> grubles, does 13.10 come with mir ?
[05:48] <Nilabhra> apm1: ah! dunno... didnt work for me...
[05:48] <grubles> apm1, yes iirc
[05:48] <Nilabhra> apm1: hybrid graphcis and linux sytems do not really go hand in hand
[05:49] <apm1> Nilabhra, i know but i thought there is some improvement
[05:49] <Danato> grubles: whats mir? my laptop also has hybrid graphics
[05:49] <grubles> a replacement for X
[05:50] <apm1> Danato, its the new windowing sytem replacing X
[05:50] <Danato> apm1: is it as effective as X?
[05:50] <apm1> Danato, nobody can answer that
[05:51] <apm1> its not old enough that its been tested enough
[05:51] <Danato> apm1:but are known drawbacks?
[05:51] <Danato> *are there
[05:51] <apm1> a few for the moment
[05:51] <apm1> they'd be sorted out soon
[05:51] <was_a_win_user> I am getting an error while using wvdial
[05:51] <was_a_win_user> wvdial: utils/wvtask.cc:405: static void WvTaskMan::_stackmaster(): Assertion `magic_number == -0x123678' failed.
[05:53] <apm1> anyone using catalyst control center with the amd proprietary driver installed ?
[05:53] <was_a_win_user> ya
[05:53] <was_a_win_user> I am using it
[05:53] <was_a_win_user> and it sucks
[05:53] <FloodBot1> was_a_win_user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <noobsz> this is really frustrating
[05:53] <noobsz> =(
[05:54] <was_a_win_user> Ubuntu + XFCE4 = Rocks!
[05:54] <noobsz> My first install samba worked great
[05:54] <apm1> was_a_win_user, is there any mention of hybrid graphics ?
[05:54] <noobsz> now
[05:54] <was_a_win_user> ok
[05:54] <noobsz> it's a big pile of crap
[05:54] <was_a_win_user> y is everyone calling Ubuntu a Spyware?
[05:54] <mmazing> soooo, i am having trouble connecting to steam through ubuntu, if i reboot into windows i have no problems connecting, and ideas on where to start troubleshooting ?
[05:55] <was_a_win_user> reinstall it
[05:55] <noobsz> I wish I knew what I did
[05:55] <was_a_win_user> and update your system
[05:55] <was_a_win_user> if not working yet then you are doing something wrong
[05:55]  * noobsz didn't figure something that would seem as simple as sharing a folder from Ubuntu to Win 7 would be so complicated
[05:55] <mmazing> that sounds like a windows solution ;)
[05:55] <Guest42167> How do you mean trouble wit hSteam? What happens?
[05:55] <mmazing> "can't connect to steam, etc etc"
[05:56] <Guest42167> Can you get internet properly through Ubuntu?
[05:56] <mmazing> i am speaking to you on the computer that is having troubles :)
[05:56] <mmazing> and it has worked in the past
[05:56] <Guest42167> Oh. Try uninstalling Steam and reinstalling it. That might fix it.
[05:57] <was_a_win_user> ya
[05:57] <was_a_win_user> Reinstall stuf
[05:57] <was_a_win_user> and update your system
[05:57] <Guest42167> Have you changed anything significant with Ubuntu to break it?
[05:57] <was_a_win_user> apm1 No hybrid graphics
[05:57] <mmazing> not that i can think of
[05:57] <was_a_win_user> Ubuntu is never stable
[05:57] <was_a_win_user> which version are you using?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> was_a_win_user, false.
[05:58] <Guest42167> Ubuntu is very stable
[05:58] <mmazing> if ubuntu wasn't stable i wouldn't be using it across every system i own, but hey maybe i'm lucky
[05:58] <Guest42167> ditto
[05:58] <cfhowlett> mmazing, try this: backup your steam games!!!!!! !!!
[05:59] <mmazing> i actually don'
[05:59] <cfhowlett> then sudo apt-get purge steam.  then reinstall
[05:59] <noobsz> I like Ubuntu actually. I don't like the fact of having to do reinstall #3 now to hope that next time around I can share folders between my windows 7 computer
[05:59] <noobsz> and my ubuntu laptop
[05:59] <mmazing> don't have any games installed in linux atm, so i don't really care if i lose anything
[05:59] <noobsz> come a long way though
[05:59] <mmazing> but im more interested in WHY this is happening
[05:59] <was_a_win_user> steam is a but program for games .. It is jus sooo complex nowadays that most people mess up bad
[06:00] <Ben64> noobsz: theres no reason to reinstall to get sharing to work
[06:00] <cfhowlett> noobsz, quick workaround while you research a more permanent solution: dropbox/ubuntuone/googleshare your data.
[06:00] <noobsz> Ben64: I have tried everything =P
[06:00] <Ben64> no you haven't
[06:00] <noobsz> Ben64: only logical answer left
[06:00] <noobsz> Ben64: Well I could stare at my smb.conf for a few days! =D
[06:01] <mmazing> sigh, i guess it's time to apt-get purge steam
[06:01] <noobsz> Perhaps the answer will reach out and pop me on the nose
[06:01] <xmetal> !pastebin
[06:01] <Ben64> noobsz: the problem usually lies within windows
[06:01] <hurdorbsd> wvdial: utils/wvtask.cc:405: static void WvTaskMan::_stackmaster(): Assertion `magic_number == -0x123678' failed.
[06:01] <noobsz> Ben64: Well that's the thing. I haven't changed anything on Win and the first install of Ubuntu worked fine
[06:02] <noobsz> Ben64: I was able to see shared folders and access them.
[06:02] <xmetal> i'd shut down the firewall on the Windows side and see if that works ... then you know its a firewall configuration (on windows side) that is causing the issue
[06:02] <xmetal> (temporarly i mean)
[06:02] <noobsz> Ben64: Second install when I went on nautilus to "share" and it installed samba now now so much
[06:02] <Ben64> if the usernames and passwords are the same between windows and ubuntu, it makes it easier
[06:03] <Ben64> but the problem really is with windows' implementation of security
[06:03] <hurdorbsd> is ubuntu a spyware?
[06:03] <Ben64> hurdorbsd: no
[06:03] <noobsz> Ben64: Well there was a registry hack I tried but it didn't work
[06:03] <hurdorbsd> y does RMS calls it so?
[06:03]  * xmetal sighs
[06:04] <noobsz> Ben if you wish to take a look at my smb.conf for some pointers would be appreciated. If not that's fine.
[06:04] <mmazing> ubuntu has strayed from the path a bit, but it is far better than micro$oft
[06:04] <Ben64> noobsz: sure go ahead and pastebin it
[06:04] <noobsz> mmazing: Ubuntu and linux in general has come a long way
[06:04] <mmazing> i agree
[06:04] <Famous> Hello
[06:04] <Famous> I was wondering what the requirments are for Ubuntu
[06:04] <noobsz> and Ubuntu has made huge leaps in compatibility and easy config
[06:04] <Ben64> !requirements | Famous
[06:04] <Famous> I'm going to be using it on a old dual core with 2gb ram
[06:05] <noobsz> well, almost easy! =P damn samba!
[06:05] <mmazing> Famous: do you own a dead badger? because you can install it on one of those
[06:05] <noobsz> okay Ben
[06:05] <Ben64> Famous: should be fine. use xubuntu or lubuntu for better performance
[06:05] <ObrienDave> dead badger LOL
[06:06] <Famous> !flavor
[06:06] <Famous> Do you think it'd work with my setup?
[06:06] <Famous> I know those requirments arent that accurate
[06:06] <hurdorbsd> Use Ubuntu + XFCE4
[06:07] <cfhowlett> ubuntu + XFCE4?  Why not just use Xubuntu???
[06:07] <xmetal> dead badger is 15.10 ... the one after 15.04 smiling smegeol
[06:07] <xmetal> :P
[06:07] <xmetal> thats what happens when Ubuntu runs out of funny names to use
[06:07] <varunendra> hurdorbsd, Ubuntu + XFCE4 = Xubuntu + bloat
[06:07] <Ben64> xmetal: 15.04 is XX, 15.10 is YY, they'd never use dead badger
[06:08] <hurdorbsd> ubuntu is called a spyware .. but whole world is shipping laptops with linux .. n what linux, Ubuntu Linux! So Ubuntu can't be spyware
[06:09] <wheatthin> hurdorbsd, Umm did you need help, or are you just trolling?
[06:09] <xmetal> i'd put my $ on the later
[06:09] <hurdorbsd> I need help with wvdial
[06:09] <Ben64> !fud | hurdorbsd
[06:09] <hurdorbsd> But people aren't aware that people still use dialups
[06:09] <hurdorbsd> wvdial: utils/wvtask.cc:405: static void WvTaskMan::_stackmaster(): Assertion `magic_number == -0x123678' failed.
[06:10] <ObrienDave> I thought full moon was last weekend ;))
[06:10] <varunendra> hurdorbsd, are you on a server or a GUI desktop?
[06:10] <hurdorbsd> lol
[06:10] <hurdorbsd> I am using XFCE4
[06:10] <hurdorbsd> Varun are you IN?
[06:11] <hurdorbsd> from IN?
[06:11] <varunendra> hurdorbsd, then why don't you use the Network Manager for dialup connection? Yeah I'm from India :)
[06:11] <hurdorbsd> ya
[06:12] <hurdorbsd> See Varun I am using BSNL evdo modem ZTE AC8700 and it won't work with Network manager on any of the distros .. any! I mean ANY! It just won't .. you need to setup wvdial or gppp for the same and then only it would work .. but sometimes on some distros it shows the above error
[06:14] <ronin> how do I get the clock to ubuntu in the upper right corner
[06:14] <ronin> xubuntu
[06:14] <ronin> got it
[06:14] <ronin> panels
[06:14] <nischay> Hi, Guys Please have a look at this question - http://askubuntu.com/questions/380424/understanding-output-of-lvdisplay-in-lvm-linux
[06:15] <hurdorbsd> ok
[06:15] <varunendra> hurdorbsd, I've seen it, but don't remember what the "magic number" refers to. But does Network Manager fail to recognize it as a modem or it just fails to establish connection?
[06:15] <nischay> I am not able to understand the meaning of mentioned fields in lvdisplay output
[06:16] <mmazing> well, i have determined that steam is just a piece of shit, i can connect now, but can't log in or change my password, but can log in fine in windows
[06:16] <hurdorbsd> varun it shows that we have a modem but won't connect via Manager .. But sometimes it would .. if you do many settings but wvdial is so fast and easy ..
[06:17] <mmazing> i'd rather play no games than have to boot into windows, sooooo i guess that's gonna be how it is
[06:17] <hurdorbsd> I am using GPPP and it just works with it now .. but I want to know y won't it work with wvdial
[06:19] <hurdorbsd> mmazing are you still having issues with Steam?
[06:21] <noobsz> hey Ben64
[06:22] <shylent> hi. Which MTA should I install in order to see the "mails" that cron sends when cron scripts produce output? I only need it to deliver mail locally (no network communication, no anything)
[06:22] <shylent> strangely, ubuntu doesn't have a MTA installed by default
[06:23] <babinlonston> I want to install one software package and i want to define the path were it want to get install, how to do it
[06:25] <mappum> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 13.10 amd64, and i can get through the first screen to choose the installer, but when it gets to the language selection, it doesn't accept my keyboard input
[06:26] <mappum> the keyboard works fine in bios, too. and i've tried multiple usb keyboards, and tried it with a PS/2 adapter
[06:26] <mappum> anything i should try?
[06:27] <mappum> btw, the keyboard lights turn off when it stops responding so it seems like the driver isn't initialized
[06:35] <mappum> nevermind, it seems it only works on certain USB ports
[06:37] <noobsz> Anyone care to take a look at my smb.conf?
[06:39] <Glyde> I'm back, finally got xorg fixed
[06:44] <linu1> hi i have been trying to connect gprs i have follow all procedures to up ppp0,when i used ifconfig -a there is no ppp0 interface,but the communication and all other steps to up the gprs went nicely,ca you tell me what is that issues
[06:45] <ptuladhar> did you used the NetworkManager
[06:46] <varunendra> linu1, what kind of modem are you using? A USB 3g modem? Tethering by mobile phone?
[06:47] <linu1> ptuladhar, no i wrote script in /etc/ppp/peers for airtel and i have tried to up the gprs using pppd call provider,
[06:53] <oaulakh> how to install scilab in ubuntu
[06:54] <xangua> !info scilab | oaulakh
[06:56] <tripelb> 12.04 gnome.. network connection icon missing from panel. o have failed to find ot in tje menus. (Also fail to find info search window and have asked here.)
[06:57] <tripelb> i want it back.
[06:57] <Glyde> does anyone know if there's a way to set printers for continuous feed paper? printer works but doesn't advance to the next page and prints right over the perforation.
[06:59] <mmazing> how can i restart unity in 12.04 without rebooting?
[07:00] <mmazing> as in - "ps aux 'something', kill #processid"
[07:00] <oaulakh> please scilab
[07:01] <xangua> !info scilab | oaulakh
[07:01] <Glyde> not sure how to kill it, but startx will bring xserver and unity back online
[07:02] <Ben64> don't use startx
[07:02] <mmazing> my unity bar is completely unresponsive to mouse clicks and keyboard but everything else is working fine, i can bring up the unity search thingy with my "windows button" but no text can be entered and i can't escape it
[07:02] <Ben64> mmazing: try running "unity" ?
[07:02] <xangua> mmazing: is this in  saucy 13.10¿
[07:03] <mmazing> xangua: 12.04
[07:03] <buu> mmazing: ps aux | grep unity | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9
[07:03] <buu> should be hilarious
[07:04] <mmazing> "unity &" worked better :)
[07:04] <xangua> mmazing: tried to reset unity¿  unity --reset
[07:04] <buu> That's way less fun
[07:04] <mmazing> Ben64, xangua: thanks
[07:04] <Glyde> anyone have any ideas on the printer? this same printer was used in debian about 2 years ago just fine
[07:04] <mmazing> also buu :D
[07:05] <mmazing> you know what buu, im gonna run that just for shits and giggles
[07:05] <buu> haha
[07:05] <buu> I'm sure most of it will restart automatically
[07:06] <mmazing> everything went crazy and then was fine
[07:06] <mmazing> ^_^
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[07:06] <buu> There's always init 6;
[07:06] <mmazing> i wish i had a glados potato to narrate my life
[07:09] <FWL73> Switchable gpu AMD HD7730M with Intel HD 4000 in Dell sucks
[07:11] <mmazing> FWL73: care to elaborate?
[07:14] <MrFurgy> Ah jetzt. :)#
[07:15] <pleanbean> Hey guys. I'm trying to install boot-repair because Windows 7 is not showing up in grub. Im running 13.10 and whenever i try apt-get update after adding yannubuntu/boot-repair to my repositories, it says 404 not found for ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/packages
[07:15] <pleanbean> Not sure why its looking in trusty which i assume is for 14.01
[07:15] <Jordan_U> pleanbean: How did you add the ppa?
[07:16] <pleanbean> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[07:16] <Ben64> pleanbean: what does it say when you "cat /etc/issue"
[07:16] <pleanbean> Also whats the recommended IRC client for Linux?
[07:16] <xangua> pleanbean: the one you like the most
[07:17] <pleanbean> I've only used colloquy on osx
[07:17] <pleanbean> cat /etc/issue prints: Ubuntu Trusty Tahr (development branch) \n \l
[07:18] <Ben64> then guess what, you're not on 13.10
[07:18] <Ben64> 14.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[07:19] <blognewb> hey guys? I tried opening the chrome deb package but the software center had the "install" button muted :( Why is it that way? :(
[07:19] <pleanbean> going to About this Computer says ubuntu 13.10
[07:19] <pleanbean> haha
[07:19] <Ben64> because 14.04 isn't even in alpha yet, all the stuff isn't updated
[07:19] <pleanbean> Dang
[07:20] <blognewb> HellO?
[07:20] <blognewb> 1655 total
[07:20] <Ben64> blognewb: you should use a ppa to get chrome
[07:21] <blognewb> hi Ben64 im coming from windows, how do i do that? "extract"? i tried extracting it and all i see are 3 folder etc, bin src something like that
[07:21] <Ben64> !ppa | blognewb
[07:22] <Ben64> for chrome, you'll want to look here -- http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[07:22] <blognewb> Ben64, no ben it's a linux chrome
[07:22] <Ben64> what?
[07:22] <xangua> pleanbean: chromium browser is already in ubuntu repositories
[07:22] <blognewb> Ben64, http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/w00t.html
[07:22] <blognewb> oh sorry Ben64
[07:22] <Ben64> yes... i know
[07:22] <pleanbean> xangua, not sure why i need that
[07:22] <Ben64> this is #ubuntu, i gave you a link to the chrome ppa
[07:23] <blognewb> sorry Ben64
[07:23] <Ben64> pleanbean: he used the wrong nick
[07:23] <xangua> pleanbean: sorry, sleepy
[07:23] <pleanbean> Ok well this may not be 14.01 specific. I installed Windows 7 on another internal drive and grub isn't showing it in the boot menu
[07:24] <blognewb> Ben64, woulld you recommend me a firefox browser alternative in ubuntu instead? My main issue is the print bug in firefox :( i want to try if it would print correctly in another browser
[07:24] <Ben64> its 14.04, not 14.01, and all support and discussion of it is in #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <grahamsavage_> ok
[07:24] <Ben64> blognewb: chromium is easy to install
[07:24] <geirha> blognewb: There's chromium-browser. It's the open source version of google chrome
[07:25] <pleanbean> Right but there are 10 times as many members here than there
[07:25] <grahamsavage_> has anyone got a hack for unity where i can bring all the windows of a program to the foreground when i click on the interface
[07:25] <Ben64> pleanbean: then don't use a pre-alpha release?
[07:25] <grahamsavage_> it's driving me friggen crazy
[07:25] <blognewb> Ben64, is it stable? no bugs/security issues? for 12.04 lts?
[07:25] <blognewb> or geirha
[07:25] <pleanbean> I really don't want to have to reinstall and redo all the setup
[07:25] <geirha> blognewb: It's in the repos, search for it in the software center
[07:25] <Ben64> nothing has "no bugs/security issues"
[07:27] <blognewb> geirha, is it searchable without internet in the software center?
[07:27] <blognewb> geirha, can i run ubuntu via usb stick while im inside win7 or i can only do that by rebooting?
[07:27] <junktext_> pleanbean: Have you tried looking up how to add in an OS manually with GRUB?  I've done that stuff before, but I don't remember it off-hand.
[07:28] <geirha> blognewb: Oh, your ubuntu machine does not have internet?
[07:28] <junktext_> It's usually just a tweak of a GRUB config file, and then an "update-grub" command.
[07:29] <blognewb> geirha, im trying to avoid internet access while inside ubuntu for the moment until i encrypt some of the more sensitive files sir...
[07:29] <blognewb> or madame
[07:30] <geirha> blognewb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[07:31] <Ben64> blognewb: you'd be much better off just connecting to download packages
[07:32] <blognewb> geirha, Ben64 i downloaded the chrome deb pkg to the sd card then it mounted to my ubuntu livecd
[07:32] <blognewb> can i do the same
[07:32] <Ben64> just connect it. saves a lot of time
[07:32] <styles_> Hey my brightness doesn't seem to be working. I checked  in /sys/class/backlight/*; the value seems to be set, but the light isn't dimming
[07:33] <varunendra> blognewb, simply updating your software cache and downloading/installing a software from default repositories is absolutely safe. Ubuntu doesn't use internet for anything other than what you ask it to do (except the infamous "Shopping lens" in Unity, which has nothing to do with a software update/install)
[07:33]  * ObrienDave spies an almost full moon ;))
[07:34] <Ben64> ObrienDave: would you stop with offtopic comments
[07:34] <junktext_> styles_: I have the same issue, but that's because I'm running Linux on a computer that wasn't really put together for Linux.  Odd bugs like this can happen, however, there are workarounds.
[07:34] <blognewb> Ben64, do you guys know of an ubuntu video series similar to Khan Academy's way of teaching?
[07:35] <blognewb> I am that dumb and stupid :(
[07:35] <styles_> junktext_, can you point me in the right direction?
[07:35] <Ben64> !manual | blognewb don't know what that is, but look at this
[07:35] <junktext_> styles_, for me, I have an NVIDIA graphics card and I am using the NVIDIA driver.  So, I use their software config tool to change it manually.
[07:35] <styles_> not a bad idea
[07:36] <junktext_> styles_, it's more of a pain, but it works.  Also, the NVIDIA config tool is slightly confusing to navigate, so I just memorized where to go.
[07:36] <blognewb> thank you so much, Ben64 i'll check it out
[07:37] <varunendra> blognewb, if you insist on an offline installation, try this - Open a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-T) > enter this command : "apt-get install --print-uris chromium-browser". Do you get a detailed output with some download links at the bottom of the output?
[07:37] <junktext_> styles_, I was unable to have my brightness changed using the Nouveau drivers and the Ubuntu brightness settings.  So just FYI.
[07:38] <junktext_> I appreciate the Nouveau project, but I have more functionality and can play Steam games only when I am using the NVIDIA proprietary drivers.
[07:38] <ppokuyh> hi
[07:38] <styles_> junktext_, good call on the nvidia drivers they worked
[07:38] <ppokuyh> Can I create Contact with Ubuntu's Cloud?
[07:39] <junktext_> styles_, great!
[07:39] <blognewb> varunendra, hang on sir,
[07:39] <styles_> junktext_, they must Interfere with the ubuntu one
[07:39] <styles_> controls*
[07:39] <Flattenedorphan> i know this is an ubuntu channel but could someone assist me with a Python script in windows?
[07:40] <junktext_> styles_, I've also seen on the web of where people have set up some binds that they programmed in manually.  But, I wasn't that gung-ho to go down that rabbit hole.
[07:40] <zdx> 你好啊
[07:40] <Ben64> Flattenedorphan: if you know this is an ubuntu channel, why are you asking about not ubuntu? try a python channel perhaps?
[07:40] <varunendra> !pastebin | blognewb you can use pastebin to show us the outputs
[07:40] <zdx> 有用中文的吗
[07:40] <Ben64> !cn | zdx
[07:41] <zdx> ok thanks
[07:42] <ppokuyh> how to create a nas with ubuntu desktop?
[07:47] <helmut_> hi
[07:54] <asad2005> I some times get low memory after several hours of work, apps running are evolution,chrome(40-50 taps),liferea, terminal,stardict and libroffice probably one or more apps extra is this normal if my memory tot is 8 GB?
[07:56] <ppokuyh> hello
[07:57] <ppokuyh> can I dual boot UBuntu desktop with Ubuntu server?
[07:57] <ppokuyh> withoutl losing my ubuntu desktop partition?
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: sure why not
[07:57] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd, k thx that's cool!
[07:58] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd I just has to create partition only for Ubuntu server, right?
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: yeah, but be careful, partitioning and formatting can be dangerous
[08:00] <jongirard> Been trying to get cron to stop logging to rsyslog for a couple days now with no luck. Tried everything from adding cron.none to the syslog config file and enabling cron to log to its own file with no luck
[08:01] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd basically, UBuntu desktop is ubuntu server?
[08:01] <ppokuyh> with a gui?
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: yeah, and with additional application sets
[08:02] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd, Can I set up a server from Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:03] <jnhghy> I need to make the teamviewer daemon start when ubuntu start, how would I do that?
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: yeah
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: but why have the extra stuff if you probably won't use it
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> ?
[08:04] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd, In fact, I want to use a server just from time to time
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: ok
[08:06] <confrey> hi everybody
[08:07] <blognewb> varunendra, hi... the terminal said after it read pkg lists and build a "dependency tree" ->> "E: Unable to locate package chromium-browser"
[08:07] <ppokuyh> what is the command to connect to ssh?
[08:07] <Ben64> ppokuyh: uh.... "ssh"
[08:08] <s_faraday> hi guys
[08:08] <s_faraday> my laptop's USB ports work so slow on ubuntu 12.10
[08:08] <ppokuyh> Ben64, lol thx
[08:08] <s_faraday> am I need to install any driver for that?
[08:09] <confrey> my notebook resume on every event : any key pressing, lid closing or opening, USB events if attached; I need to store in suspend mode in my bag, but it resume byself simpy moving the bag, (I suppose with keys action); I need to resume it with Power button only, what may I do?
[08:10] <varunendra> blognewb, it means you need to update the repository which can be done only while being connected to internet. You will also have to make sure that "universe" repository is enabled (you can check it in Software Centre > Edit > Software Sources), which you can do offline, but you may still have to update once more while being online.
[08:11] <ppokuyh> how to set a nas lol?
[08:11] <ppokuyh> I have to connect to SSH but I don't understand how with Ip adress
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: depends on your requirements
[08:12] <varunendra> blognewb, while it can be installed by manually downloading the required packages, it would be too much work due to dependencies.
[08:12] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd for a basic NAS
[08:12] <ppokuyh> then use owcloud
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: ssh user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:port --> then it will prompt for a password
[08:12] <blognewb> varunendra, like which dependencies
[08:13] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd thx, to know my XXXXXXXXXXXX, I've put        ifconfig, but what to take
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: if it's local, it will be 192.168.x.x
[08:14] <Ben64> not always
[08:14] <ppokuyh> <aeon-ltd, thx, found it!
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> Ben64: i know, but it's most likely for a home network
[08:15] <blognewb> varunendra, did you mean the PPA are those the dependencies
[08:16] <varunendra> blognewb, nope, many different libraries and other packages from official repositories. Here's the list from my "apt-cache show chromium-browser" : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6457409/
[08:17] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd should I replace "port" by something?N
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: yeah the port number
[08:17] <ppokuyh> aeon-ltd how to find it please?
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: well it's in your configs, default is 22 but i'd change that
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> ppokuyh: you should consult a wiki for how to configure ssh and how to use it
[08:18] <varunendra> blognewb, note that these listed packages may have further dependencies, thus creating a labyrinth of packages. Their versions will add further complexity. That's why doing a simple online installation is recommended.
[08:19] <ppokuyh> ok
[08:28] <ppokuyh> what to do with a nas lol
[08:28] <Ben64> what does that mean
[08:29] <ppokuyh> I"ve set up finally on  another machine
[08:29] <ppokuyh> what can I do with a nas now?
[08:29] <Ben64> store stuff on it?
[08:36] <pcarrier> hi! might sound stupid, but how do I access the source package of https://launchpad.net/~brightbox/+archive/ruby-ng-experimental/+build/4014157 ?
[08:42] <jon112234> Does anyone have any experience setting cron jobs so that they don't output to the system logs?
[08:43] <MajSlayer> how do I file search from SSH console?
[08:44] <Wiz_KeeD> I think locate is something you canuse MajSlayer
[08:44] <Wiz_KeeD> or grep if you want to search inside files
[08:44] <MajSlayer> locate cool
[08:44] <MajSlayer> yeah new to linux, well i use to run a isp, but it was 12 years ago
[08:44] <MajSlayer> memory isnt that great.lol
[08:46] <wsnipex> find
[08:49] <man0riaX> Hello everyone
[09:07] <jony_easyrider> I need a barcode editor software in Ubuntu like Bartender in Windows, any idea?
[09:08] <auronandace> jony_easyrider: i don't know any but you could try it in wine
[09:08] <auronandace> !app | jony_easyrider
[09:08] <auronandace> !apdb | jony_easyrider
[09:09] <auronandace> !appdb | jony_easyrider
[09:09] <jony_easyrider> auronandace, bartender won't work with wine
[09:09] <Ben64> download a barcode font and use libreoffice?
[09:10] <auronandace> !info barcode | jony_easyrider
[09:11] <jony_easyrider> Ben64, it's a good idea, but I need serialization too
[09:18] <Xtoph> Hello guys. I am trying to start a service (it's a C++ program which connects to a SIP server via the linphone library) as soon as the sytem boots. It seems to start all right but it has some strage behavior. However, when I start the service manually or when i restart the service after boot, it works. I suspect some dependency on other services. My question: How do I configure the service to start some time after the boot has comple
[09:20] <siavoshkc> Sorry, I talked to one folk about installing Ubuntu Touch on my Nook Color
[09:21] <auronandace> !touch | siavoshkc
[09:21] <siavoshkc> thanks
[09:23] <columb> Ubuntu is so pleased to see me right after boot... http://i.imgur.com/WpdlG0L.png
[09:24] <jgirard_> columb yes quite happy indeed by the looks of it
[09:25] <cbslgm> hello,everybody!
[09:29] <SlackoNewbie> I'm newbie @SlackoPuppy Linux. What is the best mp3 download program
[09:31] <Rory> SlackoNewbie: What do you mean by mp3 download program?
[09:32] <Wug> blerp derp.  So I have a broken ubuntu installation, stop the presses and cover this
[09:32] <Rory> !details
[09:32] <Wug> I know, I'm typing. sheesh
[09:33] <Wug> When I login to a graphical session, there is no unity presence at all. no indicators, no panel, no launcher
[09:33] <SlackoNewbie> Like ares
[09:33] <SlackoNewbie> r
[09:33] <Wug> I've tried reinstalling lightdm, all unity packages, xorg, and my graphics drivers
[09:33] <Rory> Wug: Does the issue also occur when you log in as another user, such as the guest user?
[09:33] <SlackoNewbie> Rory: Alternative to ARES
[09:33] <Wug> Probably, but I'm not sure.  give me a second to check
[09:33] <Rory> SlackoNewbie: A bittorrent client?
[09:34] <Wug> (I purged unity-.* so it should have deleted configs but ill look anyway.  Also, dconf reset -f /org/compiz has had no effect)
[09:34] <Rory> Wug: It won't have deleted user configs I wouldn't imagine
[09:34] <SlackoNewbie> Rory: maybe
[09:34] <Rory> SlackoNewbie: like utorrent?
[09:34] <Rory> !torrent | SlackoNewbie
[09:35] <Wug> How exactly do I enable the guest account from the command line
[09:35] <Rory> Wug: It's enabled by default i think/
[09:35] <Rory> Wug: Or you can make another user from the command line with "adduser somename"
[09:35] <Wug> I probably wouldn't be asking if it was showing up in the list of users :P
[09:37] <Romance> how do you list IPs range on a vps if the vps had 5 IPs for example
[09:37] <Rory> Romance: ifconfig
[09:38] <Wug> Romance: I'd imagine if you have a server hosted by some company somewhere, you can check your info about it somewhere to see exactly which ones are assigned to you, including any that are not bound to interfaces
[09:38] <Wug> like maybe email correspondence, or your web panel if you have one.
[09:39] <Wug> Rory: it works on the guest account.
[09:39] <Romance> ah i forgot, they are running vm, of course i only see 1 IP, thanks
[09:39] <Wug> (to enable guest: sudo sed -ie 's/allow-guest=false/allow-guest=true/' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:40] <Wug> maybe my file permissions are borked.  I seem to recall this having happened before
[09:40] <Rory> Wug: try: sudo chown Yourusername: ~/.Xauthority
[09:41] <Wug> its not .Xauthority, that's owned by me
[09:41] <Wug> find ~ -uid 0 is reporting only a couple of things that are supposed to be roots
[09:41] <Rory> Wug: can you install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) and then run "ls -alh ~/ | pastebinit" - this will put a directory listing of your home directory on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:42] <Wug> I actually have a homebrewed gist script
[09:42] <Rory> Whatever works
[09:42] <Wug> there's one thing in my home dir which is not me:me, and it's .lesshst which is me:root for some reason
[09:43] <Rory> I don't think that will stop you logging in. What ubuntu version are you using? (cat /etc/issue to check)
[09:43] <Wug> 13.19
[09:43] <Wug> 10*
[09:45] <Rory> Wug: What graphics hardwere do you have? (lspci | grep VGA to check)
[09:45] <Wug> radeon 7970
[09:45] <Wug> (these are all questions I know the answer to :D)
[09:45] <Rory> open-source radeon driver or fglrx?
[09:45] <Rory> Wug: You'd be surprised how many people here have no idea what their computer is, or what version of their OS they are using
[09:45] <Wug> oh no I wouldn't
[09:46] <Wug> but I'm a little more informed than the average derp (or I like to think I am anyway)
[09:46] <Rory> brb meeting
[09:46] <Wug> the proprietary one.  from amd.com (latest beta for linux x86-64, october 2013)
[09:46] <Wug> the flgrx's in the repos break everything if I install them
[09:52] <zetheroo> need help mounting a RAID 1 device
[09:52] <grimeton> zetheroo: man mount
[09:52] <zetheroo> grimeton: this is a bit of an emergency
[09:53] <grimeton> zetheroo: man mount also holds information about mounting partitions/drives in case of emergencies
[09:53] <zetheroo> would really appreciate soem help
[09:53] <Wug> zetheroo: what exactly do you mean "a raid 1 device"
[09:53] <stomanata> Hi, when i start my laptop system notification says that new version of kubuntu is available. But how to upgrade?
[09:53] <zetheroo> I just created a new md1 array and cannot mount it
[09:53] <grimeton> zetheroo: i'd really appreciate some help to help you - no info doesn't allow me to figure out what's wrong
[09:53] <grimeton> zetheroo: did you create an fs on top of it?
[09:53] <Wug> do you mean hardware or software raid, and do you mean mounting the whole array, or just one drive in a degraded or failed array
[09:53] <zetheroo> I don't know how to get the UUID of the array
[09:53] <Wug> blkid?
[09:54] <Ben64> probably shouldn't be doing raid if you can't figure it out, its a recipe for disaster
[09:54] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6457682/
[09:54] <Wug> also you shouldn't need the blkid of the raid just to mount it
[09:54] <zetheroo> some info ^^
[09:54] <Wug> zetheroo: sounds like you need to partition it
[09:55] <zetheroo> 2 disks - ext4 - raid1
[09:55] <grimeton> argh, partitioning md devices ...
[09:55] <grimeton> mkfs.xfs /dev/md1
[09:55] <zetheroo> Wug there was already a partition on the disk when I created a RAID 1 array out of them
[09:55] <grimeton> mount /dev/md1 /mnt -t xfs
[09:55] <zetheroo> I cannot wipe the disks
[09:55] <zetheroo> there is data on them
[09:56] <Wug> zetheroo: is md0 or md1 your raid array
[09:56] <grimeton> zetheroo: ehm, what does file -s /dev/md1 show?
[09:56] <zetheroo> md1
[09:56] <zetheroo> /dev/md1: data
[09:56] <zetheroo> show:     ERROR: cannot open `show' (No such file or directory)
[09:56]  * grimeton hopes that the radi creation didn't overwrite the filesystem's fat
[09:56] <grimeton> it did
[09:56] <Wug> if there was data on it and you made a raid on top of it you're in trouble
[09:57] <grimeton> zetheroo: creating the mirror the default (new) way wrote some extra info at the beginning of the partition and destroyed your filesystem's fat
[09:57] <grimeton> the data is gone
[09:57] <grimeton> as long as you can't reproduce the first, let's say 500 bytes of that partition
[09:57] <Wug> testdisk might be able to help recover data
[09:57] <zetheroo> ok ... then I have to out the old disks back in ... I was told in #linux that you could make an array from disks already holding data ... :P
[09:57] <grimeton> zetheroo: yeah, using THE OLD way
[09:57] <Wug> did you make a backup like you always should when dealing with partitions?
[09:57] <Ben64> remember 3 minutes ago when i said "probably shouldn't be doing raid if you can't figure it out, its a recipe for disaster"
[09:58] <Ben64> see, this is the disaster
[09:58] <zetheroo> I did: mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md1 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
[09:58] <Wug> Ben64: i've had worse
[09:58] <Ben64> of course
[09:58] <zetheroo> Wug; yes the data is on other disks as well
[09:58] <zetheroo> ;)
[09:58] <Wug> like that time a partition move got interrupted
[09:58] <zetheroo> so I am going to swap these out because it ain't working ...
[09:58] <Ben64> not many people even need raid
[09:58] <Wug> zetheroo: you're probably ok then
[09:59] <zetheroo> but now will the old array still work?
[09:59] <zetheroo> damn
[09:59] <Rory> Wug: i am back, did you make any progress? Do you have that ls -al pastebin?
[09:59] <grimeton> zetheroo: the data is gone
[09:59] <Wug> zetheroo: if you're adding and removing disks that are part of the array, im gonna go ahead and say "no"
[09:59] <Wug> Rory: I'm one-by-one renaming config files in ~ that look like that might be causing it
[10:00] <Wug> it's a pita because my login password is colossal.
[10:00] <Rory> Wug: Change it for the duration of this testing
[10:00] <Wug> I might get annoyed enough to do just that
[10:01] <grimeton> zetheroo: and read the mdadm man page - especially the part about the metadata (-e
[10:01] <grimeton> )
[10:02] <ubuntu0> hello. I did not create a swap partition, should I tweak swappiness level or leave it as it is?
[10:03] <Ben64> if you dont have a swap partition, it doesn't matter
[10:03] <grimeton> ubuntu0: you can create a swap file if you like and use that one
[10:03] <alisal> ciao
[10:03] <alisal> !list
[10:03] <is_null> hi all, i have a core i7 with 4GB of RAM, any idea why it lags so much it almost hangs (have to go into a tty, wait super long to login and kill chromium and many friends) since 13.10 ?
[10:03] <Wug> ubuntu0: how much ram do you have? if you have more than 4GB you don't need a swap file probably, and if you have more than 1GB you can probably get away without one too
[10:04] <Wug> is_null: sounds like some shit adobe flash would do
[10:04] <is_null> Wug: that's what i thought but i'm on pepper now
[10:04] <ubuntu0> thanks mates
[10:04] <Wug> no idea then. is it all the time or just on some sites
[10:05] <Wug> maybe pepper has a bug?
[10:05] <is_null> apparently all the time, maybe it does
[10:05] <is_null> maybe there was a kernel setting change as well
[10:06] <is_null> if i wanted to get that deep into my os i'd install arch (again), but i'll probably just check if fedora works and if it doesn't install arch
[10:06] <Wug> Rory: update, it's in .config somewhere
[10:06] <is_null> ubuntu has served me well during ~7 months
[10:08] <manfred_wl> bye
[10:08] <Xtoph> I solved the problem myself. I simply had to add the init-file info to my init file and set Required-Start to $ALL. However, thanks for your time.
[10:09] <zetheroo> Wug: basically the idea was to upgrade the current array with better disks
[10:09] <zetheroo> now I have but back the old disks and the array is back up and all the data is there
[10:09] <zetheroo> so how would one go about upgrading the disks of an array?
[10:09] <Wug> zetheroo: so, you already have an existing array
[10:09] <Wug> with data on it
[10:09] <Wug> and you want to put that data on a new array?  same size? same number of disks? what type of raid?
[10:10] <damel> hey all, I'm trying to get my brightness to work on my g75vx and I'm having no luck. Any ideas?
[10:10] <tr0n> u rty settings?
[10:10] <zetheroo> Wug: yes ... I just took those two disks out and replaced them with better ones ... one of which had a copy of the data from the old disks ...
[10:10] <tr0n> try
[10:10] <zetheroo> Wug: I thought it would just rebuild with the new disks
[10:10] <zetheroo> :P
[10:10] <Taduro_> Can I ask a question here if the Ubuntu I'm using has another desktop?
[10:11] <ObrienDave> sure
[10:12] <Wug> zetheroo: if you imaged the data from each disk onto the new disks than you'd probably be able to make that work
[10:12] <Wug> but it would be better to just hook them up in an empty raid, then copy the data from one to the other
[10:13] <Wug> Rory: it was ~/.config/dconf/user
[10:13] <Wug> I think
[10:14] <Rory> !yay | Wug Interesting that your dconf compiz reset didn't work
[10:14] <Wug> yeah idk.
[10:14] <zetheroo> Wug: so what would happen if I replaced just one of the disks in the array at a time ...
[10:15] <Wug> zetheroo: why are you so hell bent about doing this the wrongest possible way
[10:15] <Wug> the filesystem exists to keep track of your data
[10:15] <Wug> going behind its back is a tactic for emergencies only
[10:15] <Wug> do you not have enough sata slots for all of the drives or something?
[10:16] <Wug> you might be able to add the drives to the existing array (assuming it's a raid 1) and then remove the old ones
[10:18] <Wug> Rory: now I just need to figure out what's griping at me whenever I login and breaking badly enough to throw up those "system problem detected" things
[10:18] <Wug> guest account doesn't do those.
[10:21] <zetheroo> Wug: 4 slots in the server and all are used
[10:21] <zetheroo> I just thought there was a way to replace disks in an array and then have the array rebuild ...
[10:22] <Wug> 1. take something out until you have the raid rebuilt, or 2. get a sata pci card
[10:22] <Wug> crappy ones will run you like $30
[10:22] <Wug> if having a really nice raid is important to you, get a dedicated raid card
[10:22] <zetheroo> Wug: can I make the array on another server and then move the disks to the one where I want to replace the disks?
[10:23] <Wug> such cards do definitely support having drives hotswapped, and can do raids with an obscene number of drives
[10:23] <Wug> there are a bunch of ways you can do it
[10:23] <Wug> and that one works fine
[10:23] <Wug> you could even download the data from the old array over the network onto the new array
[10:24] <zetheroo> I was initially thinking of doing something like this http://www.howtoforge.com/replacing_hard_disks_in_a_raid1_array
[10:24] <Wug> on a gigabit network it would be reasonably fast
[10:24] <zetheroo> Wug: yes, I was thinking of moving the data onto the new array over the network
[10:24] <Wug> I suggest you try following those instructions with image files first to make sure they work they way you want
[10:25] <gregor3005> hi, i have a big problem with"update-initramfs" its says allways "nothing to do, exiting." how can i force to generated a new initramfs? i tried all options
[10:25] <Wug> just chuck together a raid 1 of a few 512MB image files
[10:25] <nicola> join #redturtle whatever
[10:25] <zetheroo> heh ok
[10:25] <Wug> safer than experimenting on a production raid
[10:26] <zetheroo> but maybe it's best altogether to just create a new raid array on our spare server ... :P
[10:26] <ppokuyh> hi is it safe to install ubuntu server on a virtual machine*?
[10:26] <Rory> ppokuyh: what do you mean by "safe"?
[10:26] <zetheroo> I am just worried that if I do this and move the 2 new array disks into the production server that the array won't mount of something ...
[10:27] <ppokuyh> Rory, if  it is more insecure than installing in a proper parittion
[10:27] <ppokuyh> Rory, I just want to stock contact information, not big files
[10:28] <Rory> ppokuyh: It is exactly the same system that is running
[10:28] <ppokuyh> store*
[10:28] <Rory> ppokuyh: So it is only as secure as the least secure application on it. no more or less secure with physical/virtual
[10:29] <Wug> zetheroo: I have a hardware raid card but all of my drives are too new to replace :D
[10:29] <ppokuyh> Rory k thx, how many GB I need to allocate for Ubuntu server?
[10:29] <Rory> ppokuyh: That depends on how much data you want to store
[10:30] <Rory> ppokuyh: At a minimum I'd say 8GiB, plus extra space for your data
[10:30] <ppokuyh> Rory less than 500mb for the moment
[10:30] <ppokuyh> k thx Rory
[10:30] <Wug> you can get away with 512MB as long as you don't go installing libreoffice or something.
[10:31] <Rory> No harm in over-provisioning when you are using thin provisioning / dynamic virtual disks
[10:32] <ppokuyh> thx guys, when I have a server, I just have to boot into Ubuntu Server to sync date, right?
[10:33] <asad2005> how can i list running programs by memory consumption?
[10:33] <Wug> well my jimmies are sufficiently settled for my desktop to stop bothering about it.  thanks Rory
[10:33] <ppokuyh> if I boot into Ubuntu Desktop, I won't be able to access my server, am I right?
[10:33] <ppokuyh> asad2005 system monitor, momory tab
[10:34] <ppokuyh> asad2005 install htop otherwise
[10:35] <Rory> ppokuyh: Regarding accessing your server, it will depend how your network connection on the virtual server is set up as to how you would access that
[10:36] <asad2005> ppokuyh: thanks
[10:39] <ppokuyh> which is the best version of ubuntu server?
[10:40] <ppokuyh> should I take LTS?
[10:41] <deck-star> ppokuyh, I recommend LTS if you want to set it and forget it
[10:46] <nared> halo
[10:47] <nared> anyone
[10:47] <nared> anyone?
[10:49] <zetheroo> Wug: noob question ... why do empty partitions in a newly created raid1 array need to resync?
[10:49] <HassanMullah> good morning
[10:50] <G[zero]D> !list
[10:50] <gr33n7007h> It's a hell of a fucking morning
[10:50] <Ben64> watch the language here
[10:51] <HassanMullah> how can i check my ubuntu system for unknown hardware devices, something like "unknown device" in windows device manager
[10:51] <G[zero]D> no channels here?
[10:51] <nared> 中文
[10:51] <G[zero]D> all clear
[10:51] <ObrienDave> channels, yes. WAREZ? NO!
[10:52] <G[zero]D> how can I obtain channel list?
[10:52] <damel> I'm trying to get my brightness to work on my laptop in 13.10. Anyone here that can help me?
[10:52] <gr33n7007h> G[zero]D,  /msg alis list *search*
[10:53] <nared> may you can edit rc.local
[10:54] <G[zero]D> there aren't room dedicated for problem solving?
[10:54] <Ben64> G[zero]D: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[10:54] <G[zero]D> oh... damm
[10:54] <G[zero]D> :D
[10:55] <G[zero]D> first time here
[10:56] <G[zero]D> ok, so, I need to configure few shortcut to send "text script" in guake terminal
[10:57] <G[zero]D> for example, when I press <Shift>+F12 ---> send "user\rpass\r"
[10:57] <panggilsajaakuni> hello
[10:57] <panggilsajaakuni> what is the momst stable nvidia driver for 12.04?
[10:58] <G[zero]D> in kubuntu, through yakuale profile that's possible
[10:58] <G[zero]D> solutions?
[10:58] <gr33n7007h> panggilsajaakuni, The one from the nvidia site
[10:59] <panggilsajaakuni> gr33n7007h: tested that one. unfortunately, it not work for dual display
[11:00] <gr33n7007h> panggilsajaakuni, What model
[11:00] <Ben64> gr33n7007h: don't suggest people go to nvidia's site to get drivers
[11:01] <panggilsajaakuni> 8400M
[11:01] <panggilsajaakuni> gr33n7007h: 8400M
[11:01] <Ben64> panggilsajaakuni: look into bumblebee
[11:01] <HassanMullah> which ubuntu channel is special for hardware questions ?
[11:01] <gr33n7007h> Ben64, And why not
[11:01] <Ben64> gr33n7007h: because it causes more issues
[11:01] <gr33n7007h> Ben64, no it doesn't
[11:01] <Ben64> HassanMullah: there is ##hardware, nothing to do with ubuntu though
[11:02] <Ben64> gr33n7007h: it really does. and the nvidia drivers are in the repository, it's much easier and safer to use them
[11:02] <panggilsajaakuni> Ben64: where i can get that?
[11:02] <panggilsajaakuni> newbie here :)
[11:02] <Ben64> panggilsajaakuni: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[11:03] <HassanMullah> Ben64: i want to know in ubuntu something about my hardware, so is there another channel which talk special the combination ubuntu and hardware
[11:04] <panggilsajaakuni> Ben64: gr33n7007h currently i am on 304 driver
[11:04] <Ben64> HassanMullah: then ask? i can't tell what you're asking until you ask
[11:04] <gr33n7007h> Just go to the drivers, auto detect gpu select driver, install bobs your uncle fannys your aunt job done
[11:04] <panggilsajaakuni> Ben64: gr33n7007h : thanks. will check on that.
[11:04] <HassanMullah> Ben64: here my question again :-)  : lah	how can i check my ubuntu system for unknown hardware devices, something like "unknown device" in windows device manager
[11:05] <Ben64> HassanMullah: lspci and/or lsusb
[11:05] <G[zero]D> :(
[11:05] <gr33n7007h> Never had a problem
[11:05] <gregor3005> hi, i added a encrypted partition to my system and during boot time it don't aksed for the password. i added the informations in /etc/crypttab and added dm-crypt into /etc/modules. update-initramfs and rebooted. what can be missing?
[11:06] <localhost> helo
[11:06] <cousteau> Xubuntu 12.04.  Would there be any problem if I uninstall openjdk-6 and install openjdk-7?  Are they compatible?
[11:06] <gr33n7007h> Home is where localhost is lol
[11:07] <HassanMullah> Ben64: lspci i know, but has ubuntu detect all that device with a driver, or is this just a list of integrated vendor IDs ? i wanna know if a TV card is really detected and the correct drivers are "online" (sorry for my bad english)
[11:08] <Ben64> HassanMullah: lsmod will show you what modules are loaded
[11:08] <gr33n7007h> HassanMullah, dmesg will show you
[11:09] <HassanMullah> Ben64: OK, then i check it, when i'm back at home. thankx to you
[11:09] <gr33n7007h> HassanMullah, hauppage by any chance
[11:10] <usuario> cauã
[11:10] <cousteau> gr33n7007h, no, home is where ~ is
[11:10] <gr33n7007h> cousteau, true
[11:13] <Ubuntivity> Hello. I have 2 computers running Ubuntu server 12.04: Computer1 has internet through wlan0 (with an unused eth0), while Computer2 has only eth0. How can I share internet from Computer1 to Computer2 via ethernet?
[11:14] <audun_> I set up commandline twitter client tweepy and all is fine. I can tweet from commandline with ./mytwitterapp.sh 'my tweet'
[11:14] <audun_> Now I want to put the output of the cat command (or read a textfile) and send this as a tweet. How do I get the output between the single quotes?
[11:16] <Ubuntivity> audun_: you need to pass the standard output of your 'cat' and capture it as standard input in your mytwitterapp.sh
[11:16] <theadmin> audun_: ./mytwiterapp.sh "$(cat hamsters)"
[11:16] <theadmin> audun_: Where "hamsters" is your text file.
[11:17] <audun_> thanks.yes I tried something like that. Let me just test again
[11:17] <jimmydorry> embarassing question. The disk I have the system is on is full. From SSH terminal how do I find where all the data is? Manually trying the common culprits /var/log with du did not reveal anything.
[11:17] <theadmin> audun_: Note the double-quotes, won't work with single-quotes
[11:18] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Try the ncdu application (although, I have to admit, that'd be difficult to install with a full disk)
[11:18] <jimmydorry> :(
[11:18] <jimmydorry> any wonder magic commands I am unaware of?
[11:18] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Well, du normally helps...
[11:19] <jimmydorry> sudo du -hsx * 2>/dev/null | sort -n
[11:19] <jimmydorry> only showing me like 1/10th
[11:19] <jimmydorry> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/g6VFPrTa
[11:20] <jimmydorry> theadmin: am I just too drunk and fail at math?
[11:20] <theadmin> jimmydorry: That /home is huge, ver 1 terabyte
[11:20] <jimmydorry> theadmin: yea, dw about it
[11:20] <jimmydorry> it;s only 79%
[11:21] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Well, then there's /var
[11:21] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Which is 1 gig, but that's not a lot
[11:21] <jimmydorry> yes, i purged it but there was nothing there i wasnted to purge
[11:21] <jimmydorry> var log that is
[11:22] <audun_> theadmin.thanks. it worked! I was putting sigle quotes around the double quotes first, because single quotes was needed for typing text into it.
[11:22] <jimmydorry> am I crazy or am I missing a lot of disk?
[11:23] <theadmin> audun_: Single quotes can not be needed, they simply make Bash interpret all special characters as regular ones, such as spaces, etc, including the $() construct. Double quotes help with spaces and other common signs, while leaving special constructs intact.
[11:23] <jimmydorry> i've never seen this before :(
[11:23] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Run df with -h, too, this output is unreadable :/
[11:23] <jimmydorry> on what?
[11:23] <jimmydorry> the du did
[11:23] <theadmin> jimmydorry: I mean the df with -h, I can't understand these big numbers lol
[11:24] <jimmydorry> ah
[11:24] <audun_> theadmin.  ./mytwitterapp.sh 'mytweet' works but  ./mytwitterapp.sh mytweet don't work.
[11:25] <jimmydorry> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/uduVizEx
[11:25] <theadmin> audun_: Really? That's not right, unless your tweet contains weird characters.
[11:25] <audun_> theadmin. but I do need some lecturing
[11:25] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Well this is odd, 9.7G - 9.2G is not 26M
[11:26] <audun_> theadmin . the twitter app is a python script. Does that have anything to do with it?
[11:26] <theadmin> audun_: No
[11:27] <audun_> theadmin. well thanks. I can do what I want now that the cat redirect works
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:28] <krizoek> where can i settings for mounting ssh drives?
[11:28] <gregor3005> hi, i followed a guide how to change the resolution in grub. it work when i add it manually but with grub-update the changes are gone. i added it in the /etc/default/grub config and in the /etc/grub.d/00_header file. problem is that "gfxmode=keep" are not inserted in the right section into grub: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127851/change-boot-screen-resolution
[11:29] <jimmydorry> theadmin: thanks for trying... know anyone that can help me?
[11:30] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Not really, no, maybe you could try on askubuntu.cm
[11:30] <theadmin> jimmydorry: askubuntu.com sorry
[11:30] <jimmydorry> :(
[11:31] <Guest46848> hi,I have installed ubuntu 13.10 on my toshiba L640 laptop.But the shutdown and restart buttons are not working,can anyone help?
[11:31] <demirulez> Hi all, I'm not able to wake up my PC from suspend using keyboard or mouse, only through PWR Button. Some useful logs that may help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458030/ . Any suggestions? Thanks
[11:32] <demirulez> Oh i was trying to setup my USB mouse for resuming but no luck
[11:32] <panggilsajaakuni> Guest46848: same problem here. but when i leaving it for 10mins it will shutdown my lappy
[11:33] <BluesKaj> gregor3005. in/etc/default/grub edit the line  GRUB_GFXMODE=xxxXxxx , and change the resolution there , then sudo update-grub
[11:35] <demirulez> thing is that i created an udev rule and both hub and usb mouse have "enabled" in the power/wakeup subdir
[11:36] <maokaii> hello
[11:36] <maokaii> I'm trying to download a keyfinder on ubuntu using wine
[11:36] <maokaii> I'm using this guide: http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/ekeyfinder/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4
[11:36] <luckybunny> hi folks
[11:36] <maokaii> I have an error when doing the mountingn part, it says no such directory or file
[11:36] <maokaii> any help would be appreciated
[11:37] <dagle> I'm trying to boot ubuntu on a new computer and I only get jibberish on the screen. With nomodeset I get even more jibberish (in a good way) on the screen and the system halts.
[11:37] <luckybunny> question about updates..... I have an update for oss4 base (have had it for several weeks now), but I can't install it because it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop during the update
[11:37] <Rory> maokaii: Can you please put the full command you ran, and the full error output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel
[11:37] <dagle> Any parameters to recomend?
[11:37] <luckybunny> or maybe I can.... is this safe to do?
[11:38]  * luckybunny would think not
[11:38] <theadmin> luckybunny: ...you really don't need OSS on a modern system, you should probably remove that package
[11:38] <Rory> !nomodeset | dagle
[11:38] <demirulez> anyone please familiar with suspend/resume policies in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:39] <maokaii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458067/ done
[11:39] <theadmin> luckybunny: But removing "ubuntu-desktop" is safe. It's just a metapackage, it pulls in all the standard Ubuntu packages when you install it, but removing it does nothing
[11:39] <maokaii> done rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458067/
[11:39] <Rory> maokaii: What ubuntu version are you using (you can use cat /etc/issue to check)
[11:40] <maokaii> rory im using ubuntu 12.04
[11:40] <CatKiller> maokaii: Can you also paste the output of "cat /proc/partitions" ?
[11:40] <Rory> maokaii: Also is your Windows drive actually /dev/sda1 ?
[11:40] <luckybunny> theadmin: it also wants to remove alsa-base and linux-sound-base
[11:40] <luckybunny> sounds like they could be pretty crucial
[11:40] <theadmin> luckybunny: Ah, then don't. Remove oss4-base.
[11:40] <maokaii> rory: http://i.imgur.com/4qKlApW.jpg my windows drive is a 250 gb SSD
[11:40] <theadmin> luckybunny: OSS is OpenSoundSystem, an ancient way to play sound on Linux, it's no longer really used by Ubunu
[11:40] <theadmin> luckybunny: Ubuntu
[11:40] <maokaii> catkiller: im doing try ubuntu not install, dont wanna screw anything up, will that effect hard drives at all?
[11:41] <Rory> Well maokaii for a start you will want /dev/sda2 not /dev/sda1
[11:41] <CatKiller> maokaii: this is a read only call that just displays a list of available partition, no screwup
[11:41] <maokaii> rory: so sda2 is my 250gb ssd and sda1 is my 2TB ?
[11:41] <maokaii> 3TB *
[11:42] <CatKiller> Nope sda1 is a partition of your 250gb ssd
[11:42] <CatKiller> and so is sda2
[11:42] <Rory> maokaii: No. /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc are different drives. the numbers are partitions on each drive
[11:42] <CatKiller> sda1 is the windows boot partition basically
[11:42] <CatKiller> a bit like /boot on Ubuntu
[11:43] <luckybunny> done. thanks
[11:44] <luckybunny> turns out linux-sound-base is the base packages for both ALSA and OSS anyway, so I haven't lost anything
[11:45] <theadmin> I'm not even sure why you had that installed. Heck, I'm not even sure why it's still in the repositories.
[11:46] <luckybunny> probably had it for years
[11:46] <maokaii> rory tried sda2 "mount is denied becayse the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. the volume may already be mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command."
[11:46] <Rory> maokaii: sudo umount /dev/sda2
[11:47] <maokaii> rory I want it mounted I think
[11:47] <maokaii> to complete the installation of this
[11:47] <maokaii> http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/ekeyfinder/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4
[11:47] <Rory> maokaii: it is already mounted somewhere else
[11:47] <maokaii> so in that case I can skip that mounting step?
[11:50] <CatKiller> maokaii: Indeed you can. Just call "mount" to find out where /dev/sda2 is currently mounted
[11:51] <CatKiller> then adapt the guide by replacing /mnt/sda1 with the current mountpoint, likely in the form "/media/DriveName"
[11:51] <jimmydorry> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/h6LXed6H rebooting will probably fix this
[11:51] <CatKiller> Sorry VolumeName (in Windows terms)
[11:51] <jimmydorry> theadmin: something broke i think
[11:51] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Yeah, sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot
[11:51] <jimmydorry> I just rebooted
[11:51] <jimmydorry> ...
[11:52] <jimmydorry> >_<
[11:52] <jimmydorry> did i have to force?
[11:52] <theadmin> jimmydorry: Oh, sorry, eh. That forces the filesystem check on bootup, it doesn't do it automatically (normally)
[11:52] <maokaii> catkiller just type "mount"
[11:53] <jimmydorry> apparently did not need to
[11:53] <jimmydorry> theadmin: lol
[11:54] <CatKiller> maokaii: Yes?
[11:54] <maokaii> CatKiller:  im asking if thats correct :p
[11:54] <CatKiller> maokaii: Ah, yes, anyways it's non destructive so go ahead
[11:55] <CatKiller> "mount" and then return
[11:55] <CatKiller> you will see a line "/dev/sda2"
[11:55] <CatKiller> mounted on "/media/something"
[11:58] <ernst_> Can anyone help me to find the LibroOffice color settings. I was hoping to find it at "~/.config/libreoffice/*/user/registrymodifications.xcu", to bad. There is something about color, but I have no idear what to do whits that. Can anyone help me?
[11:59] <gregor3005> hi, i added a encrypted partition to my system and during boot time it don't aksed for the password. i added the informations in /etc/crypttab and added dm-crypt into /etc/modules. update-initramfs and rebooted. what can be missing?
[12:03] <maokaii> CatKiller: http://i.imgur.com/outAGQo.png media/SSD-OS
[12:03] <CatKiller> Cool, so you can use that for your guide
[12:03] <CatKiller> use /media/SSD-OS instead of /mnt/sda1
[12:03] <CatKiller> Do you know what you're doing though? You trust this guide right?
[12:04] <CatKiller> Looks safe enough from the guide but heh
[12:04] <maokaii> CatKiller: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458163/ is this correct, did you look at that guide
[12:05] <CatKiller> You earlier you said you wanted to skip the mounting step since it was already mounted
[12:05] <CatKiller> so skip that step alltogether
[12:05] <maokaii> did you read the guide?
[12:05] <CatKiller> and go straight to Import your Windows registry into Wine
[12:05] <CatKiller> replacing dumphive /mnt/sda1/ by dumphive /media/SSD-OS
[12:06] <maokaii> ok
[12:06] <demirulez> Hi all, I'm not able to wake up my PC from suspend using keyboard or mouse, only through PWR Button. Some useful logs that may help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458030/ . Any suggestions? Thanks
[12:07] <amitprakash> What package provides the perl module Apache2::SizeLimit ?
[12:07] <kostkon> !find sizelimit
[12:07] <amitprakash> so nothing?
[12:08] <theadmin> !find SizeLimit.pm
[12:08] <theadmin> amitprakash: ^
[12:09] <maokaii> ill let you know if I run into more issues CatKiller :)
[12:09] <maokaii> thank you
[12:09] <CatKiller> np
[12:09] <amitprakash> thats strange, theadmin i have the package installed but cant find the module
[12:10] <RickyB98> hello :) do you need an infobot here?
[12:10] <demirulez> i forgot my /proc/acpi/wakeup content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458191/
[12:10] <theadmin> RickyB98: Already have one.
[12:10] <amitprakash> theadmin, nm.. its there
[12:10] <RickyB98> really?
[12:10] <RickyB98> who's him
[12:10] <RickyB98> ?
[12:10] <theadmin> !ubottu > RickyB98
[12:10] <RickyB98> well..
[12:10] <RickyB98> why not changing it to a notice?
[12:11] <RickyB98> xD
[12:11] <cfhowlett> RickyB98, thanks we like it as it is.
[12:11] <maokaii> CatKiller: http://i.imgur.com/7LjAjMQ.png idk why it changed language?
[12:11] <RickyB98> ok
[12:11] <RickyB98> never mind  :)
[12:11] <CatKiller> maokaii: maybe it's a german software?
[12:11] <maokaii> CatKiller:  do you think its fine should I just continue to the last step/
[12:12] <maokaii> CatKiller:  oh ok maybe
[12:12] <CatKiller> in any case it seems to mean "no such file or directory"
[12:12] <maokaii> hmm...
[12:12] <maokaii> idk what to do then
[12:12] <maokaii> im almost done isntalling this
[12:12] <CatKiller> i.e. there is no such directory structure WINDOWS/system32/config/software
[12:12] <maokaii> just the last 2-3 steps
[12:12] <CatKiller> you can run ls /media/SSD-OS/WINDOWS
[12:12] <maokaii> there is though in the ssd o.o
[12:12] <gregor3005> hi, i added a encrypted partition to my system and during boot time it don't aksed for the password. i added the informations in /etc/crypttab and added dm-crypt into /etc/modules. update-initramfs and rebooted. what can be missing?
[12:13] <maokaii> what will that do?
[12:13] <CatKiller> and repeat for each closer path
[12:13] <CatKiller> see if the directory exists
[12:13] <CatKiller> or just open the file browser
[12:13] <CatKiller> and navigate there
[12:13] <CatKiller> maybe the path is different
[12:13] <CatKiller> Maybe that guide was written for a Windows XP OS and you have vista or 7 or 8 or something
[12:14] <maokaii> CatKiller: its "windows" would the caps have messed it up?
[12:14] <maokaii> "Windows"
[12:15] <CatKiller> possibly
[12:15] <CatKiller> try without
[12:15] <demirulez> so no one could point me to something please?
[12:15] <CatKiller> demirulez,
[12:15] <CatKiller> sorry don't know much about suspend
[12:17] <demirulez> thing is that the solution i tried should work
[12:17] <demirulez> also because i can sucessfully resume from suspend using my mouse, under windows 7
[12:17] <demirulez> so it's not a BIOS setting, It's OS related
[12:18] <yeyeman> is there a command for running c programs?
[12:19] <yeyeman> I mean other than ./myprogram
[12:19] <CatKiller> yeyeman: What does that mean?
[12:20] <yeyeman> CatKiller, I can run java programs by java program.class and python scripts by python script.py
[12:21] <yeyeman> but what do I use for C programs?
[12:21] <theadmin> yeyeman: gcc, for example.
[12:21] <CatKiller> yeyeman: Java programs are interpreted by the java binary
[12:21] <CatKiller> So are Python program
[12:22] <CatKiller> this means that you run the program "Python" and you feed it an actual script file
[12:22] <CatKiller> it will digest that script file and "run" it
[12:22] <yeyeman> I know that.
[12:22] <CatKiller> When you call a "compiled" program (whether it is C or C++ or any other compile language)
[12:23] <CatKiller> you don't need to run an interpreter
[12:23] <CatKiller> Basically you can only run a "binary" executable
[12:23] <yeyeman> I just wanted to know if there is something like execute or run or somthing like that
[12:23] <CatKiller> In the case of Python you run the binary program "python"
[12:23] <CatKiller> it works exactly the same way as with python
[12:23] <CatKiller> "python" will run "python"
[12:24] <yeyeman> I know
[12:24] <CatKiller> "programname" will run "programname" provided that it is in your shell $PATH
[12:24] <CatKiller> if it is not in your path, you must provide the path to the program yourself
[12:24] <CatKiller> technically your shell is what is going to "run" the program or to "launch" or "instantiate" it
[12:24] <maokaii> CatKiller: http://i.imgur.com/idnfgX5.png no error message at the bottom this time, that good?
[12:24] <CatKiller> so bash/bourne/zsh is what will ultimately tell the kernel to load the program
[12:25] <maokaii> CatKiller:  let me know if you think that is good and I can move onto the last step
[12:25] <CatKiller> maokaii: Don't speak german but looks like it worked
[12:25] <maokaii> dumpt einen in eine textdatei = will dump one in a text file
[12:25] <CatKiller> use google translate
[12:25] <CatKiller> ok seems like it did work
[12:25] <maokaii> yeah
[12:25] <maokaii> ok
[12:26] <CatKiller> In any case no risk of moving on since the further parts only work on a file you offloaded from windows to Ubuntu
[12:26] <CatKiller> if it's not there it'll fail but that's it
[12:27] <maokaii> ok CatKiller  thanks :)
[12:27] <maokaii> CatKiller:  just noticed the guide says to use ubuntu 32 bit, im usin 64 bit >.> damn idk if that will effect it
[12:27] <CatKiller> maokaii: Give it a shot
[12:27] <CatKiller> I don't think so anyways
[12:28] <maokaii> CatKiller: ok
[12:28] <maokaii> CatKiller: thanks again hopefully this works so I can get the key and version and reinstall :p
[12:29] <CatKiller> maokaii: It's kindof ironic that you need Ubuntu to get your Windows key to reinstall isn't it? :p
[12:29] <maokaii> CatKiller:  it was custom made and I dont have the product key, it wont boot up in any mode
[12:30] <maokaii> CatKiller: you think im stealing :P ?
[12:30] <CatKiller> I know but it's just insane you can't retrieve it from Windows
[12:30] <CatKiller> not at all
[12:30] <CatKiller> it's just that MS makes it really hard for anybody to do the simplest things
[12:30] <maokaii> CatKiller:  I think I could, but i can't boot into it
[12:30] <CatKiller> ahhh ok
[12:30] <CatKiller> fair enough
[12:30] <CatKiller> then forget what I just said ;)
[12:31] <maokaii> it should be on computer properties, my friend is dumb though :p
[12:31] <ObrienDave> not even into "safe mode"
[12:32] <maokaii> CatKiller:  http://i.imgur.com/ijPrT8y.png :s
[12:32] <maokaii> sorry for being really dumb/noobish
[12:32] <maokaii> but could really use your help for this last step
[12:33] <Reacto> My dual monitor settings in nvidia x settings never saves, rather they just restore on every reboot
[12:33] <CatKiller> that archive is not good
[12:33] <CatKiller> try to redownload it
[12:33] <Aditya> can u one tell me about topic
[12:33] <Reacto> i've tried setting the xorg.conf file manually, i've tried running nvidia-settings as sudo etc, nothing works
[12:33] <CatKiller> it's just basically corrupted
[12:33] <maokaii> CatKiller: what do you mean? Run the same command?
[12:33] <CatKiller> where did you get it from?
[12:33] <maokaii> read thsi guide:
[12:33] <maokaii> last step
[12:34] <maokaii> http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/ekeyfinder/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4
[12:34] <CatKiller> ah yues
[12:34] <CatKiller> that's sourceforge being horrible
[12:34] <CatKiller> people are moving away from it
[12:34] <CatKiller> download it using a browser
[12:34] <CatKiller> here it downloaded a 1000 byte file
[12:34] <CatKiller> which is not the actual file
[12:34] <CatKiller> sourceforge does redirections etc
[12:34] <CatKiller> use firefox
[12:34] <maokaii> okay, will i still be able do the same thing?
[12:35] <CatKiller> and then "mv Downloads/<filename> /home/ubuntu/"
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> Reacto: did you generate an xorg.conf from nvidia-settings?
[12:35] <CatKiller> yes once you move it where it should go
[12:35] <Reacto> yes, I tried that too
[12:35] <CatKiller> with the command above
[12:35] <[Gentoo]> Reacto: and obviously placed in /etc/X11 yes?
[12:35] <Reacto> ye
[12:35] <Reacto> that's the default location it saves to
[12:36] <[Gentoo]> well normally nbidia-settings isnt run as root
[12:36] <Reacto> no, but I ran it as root when I did it
[12:36] <[Gentoo]> ok
[12:36] <Reacto> also tried editing xorg.conf as root manually, but it still reset
[12:36] <[Gentoo]> what reset
[12:36] <gregor3005> hi, i added a encrypted partition to my system and during boot time it don't aksed for the password. i added the informations in /etc/crypttab and added dm-crypt into /etc/modules. update-initramfs and rebooted. what can be missing?
[12:36] <[Gentoo]> i got no exp with dual monitors to let you know
[12:37] <Reacto> I mean that it resets the settings every time I reboot
[12:37] <[Gentoo]> Reacto: run nvidia-settings -l
[12:37] <[Gentoo]> from terminal
[12:37] <maokaii> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ekeyfinder/files/v0.1%20Beta/EKeyfinder_v0.1beta7_win32.zip/download
[12:37] <[Gentoo]> as normal user
[12:37] <maokaii> this the only download I can find for it
[12:37] <Reacto> nothing happens [Gentoo]
[12:37] <maokaii> catkiller
[12:38] <cstur4> What are you talking about
[12:38] <[Gentoo]> run nvidia-settings as normal user, save the settings to your home dir (default) then try that command after a reboot
[12:38] <[Gentoo]> or have you done all that
[12:38] <CatKiller> maokaii: Use firefox, paste the download link in the bar
[12:38] <maokaii> catkiller "mv Downloads/<filename> /home/ubuntu/" so..change <filename> to "EKeyfinder_v0.1beta7_win32.zip" ?
[12:38] <CatKiller> maokaii: This will redirect you to a download page
[12:38] <CatKiller> maokaii: Download the file
[12:39] <CatKiller> once downloaded, then you can use the "mv" command
[12:39] <Reacto> the default location is /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not my home dir [Gentoo]
[12:39] <[Gentoo]> Reacto: not the xorg.conf, the nvidia-settings settings
[12:39] <Reacto> ah
[12:39] <[Gentoo]> you can generate an xorg.conf from nvidia-settings, and also a nvidia settings file
[12:39] <Reacto> maybe that's what I've been doing wrong, I've only been saving the xorg.conf file
[12:39] <Reacto> gonna try
[12:40] <[Gentoo]> maybe
[12:40] <maokaii> so catkiller, the file in the guide its downloading?
[12:40] <[Gentoo]> i think its on the bottom right "save settings to file" or cimilar
[12:40] <[Gentoo]> similar*
[12:40] <maokaii> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ekeyfinder/v0.1%20Beta/EKeyfinder_v0.1beta4_win32.zip
[12:40] <Reacto> ye found it, gonna check if it works after reboot
[12:40] <Reacto> thanks
[12:41] <[Gentoo]> Reacto: it should automatically load
[12:41] <[Gentoo]> but if it doesnt
[12:41] <[Gentoo]> run nvidia-settings -l
[12:41] <[Gentoo]> and youd have to add that to your startup programs
[12:41] <adac> guys what is the differnce between a /dev/mapper device and a /dev/md device?
[12:42] <CatKiller> maokaii: What's the question? Did you get the file using firefox?
[12:42] <maokaii> catkiller question is am i looking for latest version of the software, or the direct download from the guide "http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ekeyfinder/v0.1%20Beta/EKeyfinder_v0.1beta4_win32.zip"
[12:42] <amitprakash> Hi, postgresql-9.1 is installed on my system but I don't see a postgresql service, what gives?
[12:42] <maokaii> that i put in firefox
[12:42] <CatKiller> maokaii: Use the download link provided by pasting it in firefox
[12:42] <maokaii> ok
[12:42] <amitprakash> nm.. needed postgresql
[12:42] <maokaii> and then
[12:43] <CatKiller> use the same version from the guide
[12:43] <CatKiller> once the file has downloaded
[12:43] <CatKiller> you can move it in your home directory using the command I pasted above "mv blahblah"
[12:43] <maokaii> mv Downloads/<filename> /home/ubuntu/ <filename> being the file name of the file :p ?
[12:43] <CatKiller> I never specified the second <filename>
[12:43] <CatKiller> just the first one
[12:43] <amitprakash> hmm, actually still no postgresql service
[12:43] <maokaii> without the < >
[12:43] <CatKiller> yes
[12:43] <maokaii> ok so
[12:43] <CatKiller> or use the actual file browser otherwise
[12:43] <CatKiller> much more simple
[12:44] <CatKiller> and windows like
[12:44] <jost> I'm trying to call a php script for each file of a directory and use the current file as input (stdin) for the PHP file. But I can't get bash to do that... I've tried `find <directory> -type f -exec php script.php \< "{}" \;' and many similar things, but none of them work. Why?
[12:44] <time1343> Hi
[12:44] <Razkin> Ubuntu 13.10 32bit consumes just 190MB ram while 64bit version consumes over 700MB, why is this?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> time1343, greetings
[12:44] <jost> It probably has something to do with escaping, but I can't find the problem
[12:45] <maokaii> CatKiller: im using terminal, really hate to bug you with my stupidity. "mv Downloads/EKeyfinder_v0.1beta4_win32.zip /home/ubuntu/" with the space is correct?
[12:45] <time1343> i9 tryed to boot over notwork the live cd but an mount error stopped /cdrom mount protocoll not supported
[12:45] <time1343> any ideear?
[12:46] <CatKiller> maokaii: That's correct yes
[12:46] <ernst_> can nobody help me whit office?
[12:46] <[Gentoo]> ernst_: microsoft office?
[12:46] <CatKiller> ernst_: As in Microsoft Office?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> no office users here.
[12:46] <time1343> you help me netboot
[12:46] <daedeloth_> alright, haven't done this in a long time
[12:46] <daedeloth_> got a new laptop
[12:46] <daedeloth_> how do I get ubuntu on it? :)
[12:46] <maokaii> catkiller last steps are unzip ./EKeyfinder_v0.1beta4_win32.zip wine ./EKeyfinder/keyfinder.exe
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !install
[12:46] <maokaii> yes?
[12:47] <CatKiller> maokaii: Once the file is in place you can continue the guide from right after the "wget" step
[12:47] <maokaii> ok
[12:47] <daedeloth_> I think I need to start with schrinking windows 8
[12:47] <[Gentoo]> daedeloth_: do it from gparted and drag the slider along
[12:47] <philinux> Razkin;~ do a net search for "ubuntu 32 vs 64 ram use" with and without the ubuntu bit
[12:47] <[Gentoo]> so you have unallocated space after windows 8
[12:47] <[Gentoo]> then format that as ext4
[12:48] <[Gentoo]> choose that partition on the install
[12:48] <CatKiller> daedeloth_: Be aware that this might take a while
[12:48] <daedeloth_> ah, live disk, forgot about that
[12:48] <CatKiller> daedeloth_: And you probably won't be able to pause it
[12:48] <[Gentoo]> CatKiller: shrinking shouldnt take long at all
[12:48] <[Gentoo]> seconds normally
[12:49] <CatKiller> [Gentoo]: depends if there are blocks used at the end of the partition
[12:49] <philinux> daedeloth_;~ dont forget to use wiindows to do the shrinking
[12:49] <CatKiller> [Gentoo]: Depending on your fragmentation etc it can take a while to move physical blocks to free space
[12:49] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[12:49] <[Gentoo]> bit still it shouldnt take long
[12:50] <daedeloth_> why use windows?
[12:50] <gregor3005> hi, i added a encrypted partition to my system and during boot time it don't aksed for the password. i added the informations in /etc/crypttab and added dm-crypt into /etc/modules. update-initramfs and rebooted. what can be missing?
[12:50] <daedeloth_> ooh, gparted runs on windows...
[12:50] <CatKiller> I shrank a partition on a USB drive once which took a whopping 2-3 days
[12:50] <philinux> daedeloth_;~ so it will still run, use the windows disk utility
[12:50] <CatKiller> was very large
[12:50] <CatKiller> and the drive was very slow
[12:50] <CatKiller> but still
[12:51] <daedeloth_> windows disk utility?
[12:51] <philinux> daedeloth_;~ whatever it's called now disk management or other.
[12:51] <maokaii> catkiller ): "wine command not found"
[12:52] <maokaii> http://i.imgur.com/uP9cDQR.png]
[12:52] <maokaii> http://i.imgur.com/uP9cDQR.png
[12:52] <maokaii> idk why..bleh
[12:52] <CatKiller> sudo apt-get install wine
[12:52] <philinux> daedeloth_;~ http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/11/shrink-resize-partitions-in-windows-8/
[12:52] <CatKiller> will fix it
[12:52] <CatKiller> maokaii,
[12:53] <daedeloth_> I don't understand this windows 8 thing. why did they change everything?
[12:53] <daedeloth_> I'm about a year behind on the ranting, I guess.
[12:53] <philinux> daedeloth_;~ /me is staying with win 7
[12:53] <daedeloth_> I feel like I should evolve into 8...
[12:54] <BluesKaj> daedeloth_. it's a tablet OS
[12:54] <daedeloth_> well... as a gaming backup.
[12:54] <Danato> how do i connect to a Broadband (PPPoE) connection with a username and password? Its pretty basic on windows 7 but I havent seen how on ubuntu
[12:54] <philinux> daedeloth_;~ to make room for ubuntu you'll find thats there's a limit to how much you can shrink the win partition
[12:54] <ernst_> No, not Microsoft... But Libre- / Open- "Office".
[12:55] <CatKiller> Danato: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83869/setting-up-a-pppoe-connection-in-ubuntu
[12:55] <CatKiller> with screenshots
[12:55] <CatKiller> ernst_: tried #libreoffice ?
[12:55] <maokaii> CatKiller: dont you get tired helping everyone ): ? I feel bad
[12:55] <CatKiller> maokaii: That's ok, it's friday
[12:55] <maokaii> CatKiller: http://i.imgur.com/sbFm0IP.jpg
[12:56] <ernst_> ok
[12:56] <felyx> hi
[12:57] <CatKiller> maokaii: "sudo apt-get update"
[12:57] <CatKiller> and then "sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:57] <CatKiller> should do the trick
[12:57] <felyx> guys im trying to setp up a php dev endironment with lamp stack but i dont know how to create a virtual host in my home/public_html
[12:57] <maokaii> catkiller, this wont install ubuntu on my system will it? I'm only using "try"
[12:57] <maokaii> dont want to override hard drive data
[12:57] <felyx> googled it but i hev only .conf files in my etc/apach2/sties-avaible dir
[12:58] <felyx> *have
[12:58] <geirha> maokaii: Correct, it'll only get installed into memory
[12:58] <daedeloth_> hm, hidden recovery partition
[12:58] <felyx> could someone pls help me out
[12:58] <CatKiller> maokaii: Nope, it will install packages in the current installation, which is "live" (not on a hard drive)
[12:58] <daedeloth_> and since when doesn't an image fit on a regular cdr?!
[12:58] <daedeloth_> why is everything changing?!
[12:59] <bviktor> would someone please say 'lts'? i'm just testing my highlight settings
[12:59] <daedeloth_> rant rant.
[12:59] <felyx> lts
[12:59] <CatKiller> daedeloth_: What's a "cdr" you talk about?
[12:59] <CatKiller> daedeloth_: ;)
[12:59] <felyx> he prolly means 700mb cds
[12:59] <felyx> :p
[12:59] <daedeloth_> :p
[13:00] <daedeloth_> grmbl. have to actually look for an usb drive now.
[13:00] <Danato> CatKiller: how do i find that Network Connections on kde?
[13:00] <msdw> Felyx the apah2 is wherr you do the virtoalhost
[13:00] <cfhowlett> daedeloth_, change is life.  life is change.
[13:00] <CatKiller> I've heard of those in books, seems to be some sort of old historical medium of storage like floppies
[13:00] <CatKiller> Danato: look for "network" in the search bar
[13:00] <CatKiller> sorry kde
[13:00] <CatKiller> no idea
[13:01] <CatKiller> never used kde
[13:01] <felyx> msdw, y i know but guides tell me to do this sudo cp /etc/apache2/sites-available/default /etc/apache2/sites-available/mysite
[13:01] <felyx> my prob is that there is not defautl file in there just 000-default.conf
[13:01] <msdw> Felyx What apahe are you using
[13:01] <daedeloth_> 200gb for a windows partition should be fine, right?
[13:01] <felyx> second prob is that this wont work either sudo a2dissite default && sudo a2ensite mysite
[13:02] <Danato> CatKiller: I already did that but i ddnt find anything like the window shown, although I think I have seen it Unity
[13:02] <daedeloth_> nah, never mind, no resizing.
[13:02] <felyx> well ij ust installed lamp stack witht asksel so prolly the latest but lemme check
[13:02] <Danato> CatKiller: Ill jst logout and login in unity, thanks
[13:02] <maokaii> catkiller http://i.imgur.com/evXNmX0h.png
[13:02] <maokaii> it says at the bottom
[13:02] <maokaii> i might want to do sudo apt-get update to fix these problems, but idk what problems it could possiblty have
[13:02] <BluesKaj> daedeloth_. 200G is plenty
[13:03] <felyx> hm apache 2.4.6
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> maokaii: if you have text, use a pastebin rather than an image
[13:03] <felyx> msdw,  hm apache 2.4.6
[13:03] <gregor3005> i removed old kernel-image but update-initramfs still use it when i run it with "-k all" how can i solve this?
[13:03] <msdw> Ok the new one
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> macwolf74: run:    gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    comment out the top few lines which are related to using the install CD as a package source
[13:03] <felyx> probably y
[13:04] <felyx> msdw, u know how can i do this with this new version?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> gregor3005: did you do it with apt-get / software centre?
[13:04] <CatKiller> maokaii: Can you run "sudo apt-get update" again?
[13:04] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: with "apt-get purge linux-image-<kernel version>"
[13:04] <msdw> I gues you just upgraded from the old one or fresh install
[13:04] <maokaii> doing
[13:05] <CatKiller> maokaii: If that brings up the same error message try to install wine like that: http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[13:05] <bviktor> felyx, thank you
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> gregor3005: ok, run: dpkg -l | grep linux-image   do you see fewer kernels?
[13:05] <CatKiller> bypassing Ubuntu's version and getting it straight from the source
[13:06] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: no
[13:06] <felyx> bviktor, nincsmit
[13:06] <bviktor> rofl
[13:06] <felyx> :)
[13:06] <bviktor> google translate or actually a native?
[13:07] <felyx> utóbbi
[13:07] <bviktor> high five then ;)
[13:07] <felyx> :)
[13:07] <molgrum> anyone know why i get alarm sounds in gnome shell but not in unity?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> gregor3005: what is the full output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> gregor3005: use a pastebin to host the output
[13:07] <maokaii> CatKiller:  yeah same thing, ill try it your way
[13:07] <felyx> msdw, so should i try to install an odler version of apache2?
[13:08] <msdw> You only have 000-default.conf right
[13:08] <CatKiller> maokaii: I have to go for an hour or so, but I leave you in the capable hands of other people here. Also you're nearly at the end, and the only step left is to install wine which people can help with
[13:08] <felyx> msdw,  yea
[13:08] <maokaii> ok
[13:08] <maokaii> thank you
[13:08] <felyx> i just dont know how to set up a new virtual host with this new apache
[13:08] <maokaii> catkiller
[13:08] <maokaii> I wouldnt mind payin ya :p
[13:08] <maokaii> for the help
[13:08] <FloodBot1> maokaii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:08] <msdw> Well in 2.4 thats the new default
[13:09] <msdw> Make a copy and modify
[13:09] <felyx> msdw, i guessed that much but there aint no easily accessable guides on how to do what i want
[13:09] <felyx> msdw, aight gimme a sec
[13:09] <msdw> Well you need
[13:10] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458415/, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458419/, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458423/
[13:10] <felyx> msdw, i copied the default renamed it and edited it
[13:10] <msdw> One min i got to get up and use my server to send you what you need
[13:10] <felyx> msdw, aight
[13:10] <philinux> daedeloth_;~ the 700 meg iso was breached a fair while back
[13:11] <jbrelin> Hey, all.  I'm a Debian user who just installed XBMCbuntu and am surprised to find no eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces while eth0 is configured and working!  Can someone point me to the place to modify that interface?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> gregor3005: ok you only have 2 kenels installed, that's fine
[13:12] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: yes i know :-)
[13:12] <jbrelin> Anyone? Seems like a quick question for the initiated.
[13:13] <jhutchins_wk> jbrelin: Probably network-manager
[13:13] <msdw> Felyx does it work
[13:13] <jbrelin> I don't see anything in /etc/NetworkManager, jhutchins_wk.
[13:14] <maokaii> hello, to install wine, do I just do "sudo apt-get install wine" after adding the source here? http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[13:14] <jbrelin> That is, nothing that mentions eth0.
[13:14] <jhutchins_wk> jbrelin: Right.
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> gregor3005: where is the issue?
[13:15] <maokaii> http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu I just type "sudo apt-get install wine" after I add that source, right?
[13:15] <felyx> msdw, i wil find it out very soon
[13:16] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: when i run "update-initramfs -u -k all" i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458437/ here you can see he tries to build for 3.8.0-19-generic but i don't have such a kernel installed
[13:16] <jbrelin> Can someone please tell me where eth0 is getting its configuration?  It's not mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces where I expect.
[13:16] <maokaii> can somebody help me install wine/
[13:17] <msdw01> felyx does it give you any errors when you reload apache
[13:17] <cfhowlett> maokaii, sudo apt-get install wine
[13:17] <maokaii> cfhowlett, it didn't work, so i was given this link http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[13:17] <felyx> msdw01, no it didnt
[13:17] <msdw01> already a2ensite your site>??
[13:17] <maokaii> i just did sudo apt-get install wine1.5 hopefully works
[13:18] <felyx> sudo a2ensite mysite.localhost.conf
[13:18] <felyx> sudo a2ensite mysite.localhost.conf
[13:18] <felyx> erms ry
[13:18] <msdw01> what
[13:18] <msdw01> >>
[13:18] <felyx> sudo a2ensite mysite.conf
[13:18] <felyx> i did this
[13:18] <felyx> it said enabling mysstie and i need tor estart apache
[13:18] <felyx> whixch i did
[13:18] <msdw01> thry with out the .conf
[13:19] <felyx> but http//localhost/mysite says unable to find webite
[13:19] <felyx> sudo a2ensite mysite.localhost.conf
[13:19] <felyx> eh
[13:19] <felyx> anyways
[13:19] <felyx> it said that it is already enabled
[13:19] <msdw01> have you already config the conf file
[13:19] <maokaii> ughh its still not working for wine
[13:19] <felyx> yup
[13:20] <felyx> i did the config
[13:20] <felyx> let me check again
[13:20] <msdw01> bcs it asks you for a root dir where your site is located also you have you have to give permitions
[13:20] <felyx> permissions i did not set i guess
[13:21] <felyx> let me show you my mysite.conf
[13:21] <maokaii> can anybody help me install wine? I keep getting errors and I need wine to complete this, its the last step
[13:21] <dwarakesh> Hi guys , I want to know if there is a way I can capture fn+f5 key events and redirect it to do something else! is it possible?
[13:22] <jhutchins_wk> felyx: You say it says it's unable to find the site - that's not very precicse terminology but it implies you have not set up your DNS yet.
[13:22] <felyx> msdw01, http://pastebin.com/TGvGz1R1
[13:22] <msdw01> <virtualhost *:80>
[13:22] <msdw01> ServerName pfn.isn.suroot.com
[13:22] <msdw01> ServerAlias pfn.isn.suroot.com
[13:22] <msdw01> ServerAdmin inaboxsystemsnova@yahoo.com
[13:22] <msdw01> DocumentRoot "/var/zpanel/hostdata/zadmin/public_html/pfn"
[13:22] <FloodBot1> msdw01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <maokaii> when I do "sudo apt-get install wine" it says "some packages culd not be installed"
[13:22] <BluesKaj> maokaii. pastebin the errors
[13:22] <msdw01> for example
[13:23] <felyx> jhutchins_wk, that is possible
[13:23] <maokaii> BluesKaj: how?
[13:23] <msdw01> plus other configs that you might do
[13:23] <BluesKaj> !paste | maokaii
[13:23] <jhutchins_wk> felyx: There's your problem, you're trying to use a GUI panel to administer the system.
[13:23] <felyx> jhutchins_wk, erm i dont get what ur trying to say
[13:24] <jbrelin> Still can't find where eth0 is getting its config.  Not in /etc/network/interfaces.
[13:24] <daedeloth_>  any good vnc servers for windows? or just something that I can control my laptop?
[13:25] <msdw01> overything is fine with the config
[13:25] <daedeloth_> or what's the best way to do that these days?
[13:25] <wilornel> Hey guys, I am having trouble with the installation of Ubuntu on my new Toshiba laptop. Should I move to #linux or ask here?
[13:25] <felyx> msdw01,  it stil doesnt work so something must be wrong
[13:25] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: you have a idea?
[13:25] <msdw01> like i said try cmod 777 or chmod 775 with the full idr where your site is
[13:26] <felyx> ah ty
[13:26] <msdw01> try jsut local host
[13:26] <felyx> gona try it now
[13:26] <felyx> localhost give me /var/www
[13:26] <felyx> that works
[13:26] <felyx> mysite is in my home/username/public_html
[13:26] <msdw01> so a2dissite the old default to make sure it doesnt calk it
[13:28] <felyx> oki
[13:28] <maokaii> how do I copy all the text from terminal in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[13:28] <wilornel> Okay I'll ask here. I am getting the error: "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed to [...]" when I try to install Ubuntu, in dual boot
[13:29] <dwarakesh> maokaii: ctrl+shift+c
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !uefi|wilornel,
[13:29] <felyx> msdw01, thanks for the help it still doest work but i have to go
[13:29] <msdw01> maokaii ctrl+shift+c
[13:29] <felyx> anyways thank you guys
[13:29] <felyx> bb
[13:29] <msdw01> ok
[13:29] <maokaii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458502/
[13:29] <maokaii> here is my error
[13:29] <wilornel> ubottu: That's what I wanted to follow up with. I did read the page and tried its solutions
[13:30] <wilornel> cfhowlett: That's what I wanted to follow up with. I did read the page and tried its solutions
[13:30] <dwarakesh> unable to adjust brightness in 12.04 on sony vaio vpceh25en, none of the forum answers are working! , help!
[13:30] <wilornel> let me tell you more about how it went...
[13:30] <BluesKaj> maokaii. highlight the text , then right click and copy , or ctrl+c then ctrl+v to copy and paste
[13:30] <maokaii> for installing wine
[13:30] <nashant> Hey, I had an issue where bits of an old kernel were left over and I had to boot to a live usb and run boot-repair. Now my install doesn't boot automatically. Any idea how I fix it?
[13:30] <maokaii> BluesKaj:  i got it, i put the error heres: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6458502/
[13:31] <cfhowlett> nashant, you removed ALL the old kernels?  if not, back up 1 version and try
[13:31] <wilornel> I have an EFI partition on my HDD, since Windows 8 is using it already. If I select that EFI partition for "Device for boot loader installation", I... I get the same error. Why is that so?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> maokaii. have you updated/upgraded lately ?
[13:31] <maokaii> BluesKaj:  I did "sudo apt-get update" as I was told to a bit ago
[13:31] <msdw01> maokaii try apt-get uipdate, apt-get upgrade, apt-get install -f
[13:32] <maokaii> msdw01 no install ubuntu, not ready to install using it on a usb drive
[13:32] <nashant> cfhowlett: I removed the one that was causing the issue (uname -a was reporting version 3.8.0.19, so I removed 3.8.*)
[13:32] <msdw01> why dont you use a vm
[13:32] <BluesKaj> yes maokaii , but you also have to,  sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:32] <jbrelin> Can someone please tell me what is configuring eth0?
[13:32] <wilornel> cfhowlett: It was written on the community UEFI page that there should be only one EFI partition on the HDD, so that is not an option, when I try to have two of these partitions, it just wont start installing
[13:32] <maokaii> BluesKaj:  so that won't install it right?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> nashant, reboot, go to advanced boot options or boot older ubuntu.
[13:33] <nashant> The issue is that it doesn't automatically select and boot the first option
[13:33] <BluesKaj> maokaii. upgrade first then install
[13:33] <msdw01> jberlin you want to config the eth0
[13:33] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: a i got it. thanks to open source, i love it
[13:33] <maokaii> BluesKaj:  I can't install
[13:33] <cfhowlett> wilornel, sadly, I haven't yet had to personally experience uefi.  ask again in channel and check the forums.
[13:33] <wilornel> cfhowlett, any idea why when I use the old EFI partition to boot Ubuntu, it still throws the same error?
[13:33] <nashant> cfhowlett: I don't want to boot an older kernel, I just want grub to automatically boot the latest, which it has stopped doing
[13:33] <maokaii> BluesKaj:  need to keep all the data on my hard drives
[13:33] <wilornel> alright, then
[13:33] <jbrelin> msdw01, eth0 is already configured, but it' s not listed in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:34] <jbrelin> msdw01: I know how to configure an interface by hand.  I'm wondering whence it's current configuration comes.
[13:34] <jbrelin> Err... its.
[13:34] <msdw01> when its listed in interfaces its not config
[13:34] <gregor3005> ActionParsnip: the next problem is now, why the encrypted partition are not opened during boot
[13:34] <BluesKaj> maokaii. ??
[13:34] <maokaii> catkiller told me it wasnt needed to install
[13:34] <cfhowlett> nashant, update-grub should have cleared all of that mess out.  You might need to boot off of a USB, mount your HDD and do some additional cleaning.   Don't know what else to suggest.  sorry.
[13:34] <BluesKaj> what isn't needed, maokaii?
[13:35] <jbrelin> msdw01: I can't parse that sentence.  There is no eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces and yet it is configured and working.
[13:35] <jbrelin> So where is this configuration?
[13:35] <maokaii> BluesKaj:  installing ubuntu to my hard drive
[13:35] <UriekVigilant> I put a USb pen drive with Lubuntu 13.10 on ACer 3003 wlmi with 1 gb Ram , after a few minutes the only thing i can see is screen changing from all black to black with the mouse pointer ? I also tryed another usb p+en with Ubuntu 13.10 and same thing ....
[13:35] <maokaii> isn't needed
[13:35] <nashant> cfhowlett: There's actually no mess. Just the very few correct options. It's just I have to manually select the boot option
[13:35] <wilornel> Does anyone know why is it that, after I receive an error "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed to install [...]" when I try to install Ubuntu, and that I try again, that time selecting my already-existing EFI partition(since my laptop came with Windows 8), I get the same error?
[13:35] <msdw01> i ahev that prob to with mint prob the gui config doesnt meet the file
[13:35] <ObrienDave> maokaii, you are running from a "live" system in "try" mode, yes?
[13:36] <jbrelin> msdw01: I have no GUI.
[13:36] <UriekVigilant> What could be wrong i searched on internet and i found people saying that work for them !
[13:36] <maokaii> obriendave yes
[13:36] <BluesKaj> maokaii. you can't install wine on  live-media afaik
[13:36] <ObrienDave> you can't install ANYTHING to a live system afaik
[13:37] <jbrelin> This seems like the most straightforward question in the world.
[13:37] <msdw01> in the file what options does it give you eth0 with ipv4 and ipv6
[13:37] <maokaii> ive installed
[13:37] <maokaii> skype
[13:37] <maokaii> chrome
[13:37] <jbrelin> Which file, msdw01?
[13:37] <msdw01> the interfaces
[13:37] <cstur4> can I use codeblocks in Ubuntu 13.10
[13:37] <jbrelin> /etc/network/interfaces only lists loopback interfaces.  There is no eth0 mentioned.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> nashant, frustrating.  especially since it sounds like you're so very close to fixing it.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> jbrelin. it should have auto rtho listed
[13:38] <BluesKaj> eth0
[13:38] <UriekVigilant> please help Ubuntu and Lubuntu 13.10 pen usb driv e install Acer aspire  3003 wlmi with 1 Gb ram , is not working , screen stay black 1 second and another second black with mouse pointer on it ,
[13:38] <jhutchins_wk> jbrelin: You have the standard GUI desktop?
[13:38] <jbrelin> Yes, BluesKaj.  That is what I would expect.
[13:39] <UriekVigilant> i can reach to that part asking us to try or full install on HD
[13:39] <jbrelin> I have no GUI installed, jhutchins_wk.
[13:39] <jbrelin> BluesKaj, it has lo only.
[13:40] <jhutchins_wk> jbrelin: Interesting.
[13:40] <msdw01> does it couse you any prob the missing eth0
[13:40] <BluesKaj> jbrelin. are you using network manager ?
[13:40] <maokaii> BluesKaj:  so I can only get wine if I install? How can I do this without overwriting any hard drives? Or could I install it to a usb flash drive?
[13:40] <jhutchins_wk> BluesKaj: He says no GUI.
[13:41] <jbrelin> BluesKaj, NetworkManager is installed, but I've never run X.
[13:41] <jhutchins_wk> maokaii: Wine is packaged for ubuntu and available in the usual repositories.
[13:41] <msdw01> maokaii install a vm on you cp and then just install the ubuntu you wont mess un anything and you wont have prob
[13:42] <maokaii> msdw01:  im a noob with ubuntu, i need to figure out how to do that if you dont mind
[13:42] <jbrelin> BluesKaj, it may even be running. But I want to switch to static IP and there's no config file that I can see.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> maokaii. you'll have to install ubuntu on a partition on a hdd , there's no other alternative , unless you know how to use chroot (which I have tried but am no expert on )
[13:43] <maokaii> does anybody have links or help for me to do this then without deleting anything on the hard drive and not effecting a windows boot later?
[13:43] <msdw01> maokaii thry to install it with the multi system it can install ubuntu on your drive
[13:43] <yeats> !dualboot | maokaii
[13:44] <Le_Bacon_> I need help here!
[13:44] <BluesKaj> jbrelin. the first step is to get rid of network manager , then check this out : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !details|Le_Bacon_,
[13:45] <msdw01> maokaii try virtual machine you wont have to do any changes to your drive or boot
[13:45] <maokaii> msdw01:  dont have the windows disc unfortunately for that link
[13:45] <wilornel> Hey guys, does anyone know why is it that, after I receive an error "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed to install [...]" when I try to install Ubuntu12.04, and then when I try again, that time selecting my already-existing EFI partition(since my laptop came with Windows 8), I get the same error?
[13:45] <jbrelin> BluesKaj, I'm completely familiar with /etc/network/interfaces
[13:45] <maokaii> msdw01:  how would I do virtual machine?
[13:45] <jbrelin> I wasn't familiar with NetworkManager
[13:45] <msdw01> om
[13:46] <BluesKaj> jbrelin. well , then you must know what to do
[13:46] <msdw01> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[13:46] <msdw01> it works on every platform
[13:47] <LeMike> hello. i am searching for a command to find a specific file path. but this isn't possible: find -maxdepth 3 -type d -name "modules/local". how do i find by the whole path name?
[13:48] <yeats> LeMike: try 'locate <file>'
[13:48] <jbrelin> BluesKaj, I know how to configure an interface.  But that wasn't telling me what was configuring my eth0 or how to work around it.
[13:48] <msdw01> maokaii after you install virtualbox install the moduel for usb support
[13:48] <jbrelin> FYI to anyone who cares: NetworkManager will ignore interfaces mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces, so I can override it there without uninstalling it.
[13:49] <Tex_Nick> LeMake : or jhave you tried just opening terminal, & dragging file into terminal ?
[13:49] <yeats> LeMike: if the file is new, you may have to do 'sudo updatedb' to refresh locate's index
[13:49] <jbrelin> This solves my problem.
[13:49] <Le_Bacon_> So, I'm currently trying to install Zorin OS, which I know is based on Ubuntu, so I'm here.  When I try to boot up Zorin from the bios i get this message: "SYSLINUX 3.63 Debian-2012-04-16 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2008 H. Peter Anvin.  Boot:"  And it just stays there.
[13:49] <yeats> !derivatives | Le_Bacon_
[13:49] <LeMike> locate also lists every subfolder and option -b doesn't work.
[13:50] <LeMike> i just need every folder that is "modules/local$"
[13:50] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ try here #ZorinOS
[13:51] <Tex_Nick> LeMike:  i misspelled your nick above ... have you tried just opening terminal, & dragging file into terminal ?
[13:51] <Le_Bacon_> philinux: i did, but there was no response
[13:51] <BluesKaj> that 's NM jbrelin , that's the default , you need to remove it or purge if you like , then the interfaces file will become default , and resolv.conf depends on settings you add in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , now too
[13:52] <LeMike> Tex_Nick: i read it, but don't know how that should work... i am searching for specific folders within the current one.
[13:52] <wheatthin> LeMike, so use find
[13:52] <Le_Bacon_> philinux: i did, but there was no response
[13:52] <Le_Bacon_> at all
[13:52] <zetheroo> I made a raid1 array with 2 disks on our spare server and then placed them into our production server but they come up in fdisk -l as md127 .... why is this?
[13:53] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ have you tried there forums
[13:53] <LeMike> i use find like this wheatthin , but it doesn't match subfolders: find -maxdepth 3 -type d -name "foo/bar"
[13:53] <Le_Bacon_> Yeah, nothing there
[13:53] <Tex_Nick> LeMike ok sorry ... i totally missed your issue
[13:53] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ maybe time to try a different distro then
[13:54] <wheatthin> why use max depth?
[13:54] <Le_Bacon_> okay......  But I was really looking forward to it.
[13:54] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ if it fails to load, no irc support or forum - not much use
[13:54] <msdw01> Le_Bacon_ have you tried it on diferent machine or vm
[13:55] <Romance> Le_Bacon_: ask in stackoverflow
[13:55] <wheatthin> LeMike, isn't that limiting your search results right there? and you have to separate path and filename.
[13:55] <Le_Bacon_> #stackoverflow?
[13:55] <Romance> Le_Bacon_: the web
[13:55] <Le_Bacon_> ok
[13:56] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ give Lubuntu or Xubuntu a whirl
[13:56]  * cfhowlett ... believes non-supported distros are better left uninstalled on his machines.
[13:56] <Le_Bacon_> I thought about xubuntu.....
[13:56] <Le_Bacon_> But i wanted wine preinstalled
[13:56] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ plenty of help for that here and the forums
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Le_Bacon_: just because there is no support by your tiny community doesnt mean you are supported here
[13:56] <maokaii> msdw01: any guide for installing it on usb drive with virtualbox im looking
[13:56]  * philinux runs away from wine pronto
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> le_you could try in #linux for generic Linux support
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Le_Bacon_, uh ... installing wine is so easy a caveman could do it.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Le_Bacon_: or use Ubuntu and not some spinoff
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Le_Bacon_: could try in #linux for generic Linux support
[13:58]  * philinux would rather boot into win partition than play with wine again - 
[13:58] <msdw01> no for virtual machine its virtual bo for usb its multysystems
[13:58] <Le_Bacon_> ActionParsnip: HEY!  It's not just some spinoff!  I wanted to try a new distro! I have ubuntu on this computer.
 maokaii after you install virtualbox install the moduel for usb support
[13:59] <maokaii> alright
[13:59] <NakBelajar> hello
[13:59] <maokaii> I need a guide of some sort atleast then
[14:00] <msdw01> o
[14:00] <msdw01> no the usb support it so u can recognize the usb in the vm
[14:01] <msdw01> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[14:04] <Miouge> I'm looking for an inventory management software based on barcode reader running on Ubuntu ?
[14:06] <zetheroo> md127 ?
[14:06] <zetheroo> anyone know how to fix that?
[14:07] <Razkin> It's my birthday.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> maokaii. what's your reason for installing wine anyway ? It doesn't run so well in virtuals
[14:07] <gregor3005> hi, i added a encrypted partition to my system and during boot time it don't aksed for the password. i added the informations in /etc/crypttab and added dm-crypt into /etc/modules. update-initramfs and rebooted. what can be missing?
[14:07] <CatKiller> BluesKaj: maokaii needs to run a Windows tool to retrieve his Windows CD key. He's running it from a livecd
[14:07] <CatKiller> to run this tool he needs Wine
[14:07] <CatKiller> apt-get update threw an error
[14:07] <CatKiller> so he couldn't properly do an apt-get install wine
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Le_Bacon_: its not a release by Canonical, so yes it's a spinoff
[14:09] <Le_Bacon_> ok well, i cant get on the #linux server
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Le_Bacon_: this channel is ONLY for Canonical releases. NONE of the 'Ubuntu based' distro are supported here. Similarly, Ubuntu is base don Debian, but if you ask for support in #debian you will be directed here
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Le_Bacon_: its that black and white
[14:10] <BluesKaj> CatKiller. yes I saw that , he's gonna have trying to retieve a windows key , wish him luck
[14:10] <Le_Bacon_> i know i tried that.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> fun
[14:11] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ go with xubuntu if you like blue
[14:11] <Le_Bacon_> what do you mean if i like blue
[14:12] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ and i'd use playonlinux
[14:12] <Le_Bacon_> okay.  why?
[14:12] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ easier to install stuff
[14:12] <Le_Bacon_> ok
[14:13] <Le_Bacon_> but i just want to run exe files
[14:13] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ do a net search for playonlinux
[14:13] <Le_Bacon_> ok\
[14:13] <msdw01> philinuxplayonlinux still needs the wine
[14:13] <philinux> msdw01;~ yep
[14:13] <msdw01> it would be the same thing he cant install
[14:14] <philinux> Le_Bacon_;~ exe > use win in a vm
[14:14] <msdw01> Le_Beacon its better if you stayed on linux its better plus even pixar uses it
[14:15] <Le_Bacon_> nah.  i dont want to get into all that.
[14:15] <nischay> Hi, Guys I am nischay please have look at this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/380424/understanding-output-of-lvdisplay-in-lvm-linux
[14:16] <fixmypc956> Can anyone assist me in configuring SAMBA thru webmin?
[14:16] <msdw01> philinux is right
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !webmin | fixmypc956
[14:18] <fixmypc956> what can I use to replace it
[14:19] <fixmypc956> !webmin | fixmypc956
[14:19] <msdw01> fixmypc956config manualy the samba
[14:19] <CatKiller> fixmypc956:  How about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat ?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> just configure samba directly , fixmypc956
[14:21] <HypothesisFrog> Can I install ubuntu by ssh? Is there some package that will launch a curses interface that will enable  me to choose which partitions to format, and erase the distro that's currently installed?
[14:22] <sandman13> what would be the best alternative to unity?
[14:22] <philinux> sandman13;~ xfce4
[14:23] <sandman13> philinux: do you know how to customize it?
[14:23] <sandman13> or atleast point in me the right direction
[14:23] <philinux> sandman13;~ no sorry i'm so used to unity now
[14:23] <philinux> sandman13;~ someone else here might know
[14:24] <msdw01> HyposthesisFrog  youcant bcs your conecting to the host... and wehat happens when you restart the host your ssh connection gets disconected
[14:24] <fixmypc956> is there a web based tool I can use to administer my NAS either locally or remotely for Ubuntu server
[14:24] <msdw01> you can only do that withg a vm
[14:24] <HypothesisFrog> msdw01 thanks
[14:24] <msdw01> fixmypc956 cpanel
[14:25] <philinux> fixmypc956;~ options > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebMin
[14:26] <philinux> >http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-webmin-on-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-server.html
[14:26] <msdw01> philinux wbmin not acompatible anymore
[14:26] <G[zero]D> Hello!
[14:26] <philinux> msdw01;~ it says that in the community link
[14:27] <msdw01> ok let me check
[14:27] <fixmypc956> i see that cpanel is not supported for ubuntu either
[14:27] <sandman13> philinux: is it safe to uninstall compiz settings manager?
[14:27] <philinux> sandman13;~ yes but dont mess too much there be dragons with it
[14:27] <eugene-c1> Hi
[14:28] <fixmypc956> well i have webmin installed at the moment and it seems to work fine
[14:28] <philinux> sandman13;~ only thing I tweaked was zoom and wobly winddows
[14:28] <msdw01> looks good ill give it a try now
[14:28] <msdw01> zpanel
[14:28] <msdw01> fixmypc956 zpanel sorry
[14:29] <fixmypc956> ok let me look at it
[14:29] <sandman13> philinux: had installed for customizing xfce4
[14:29] <msdw01> zpanelcp.com
[14:30] <philinux> fixmypc956;~ alternatives > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103421
[14:31] <philinux> sandman13;~ if you really like xfce4 why go with xubuntu
[14:31] <philinux> why not go ^^^
[14:32] <sandman13> philinux my mood swings too much sometimes i like xfce4 other times Unity so
[14:33] <philinux> sandman13;~ stay put as you are then xfce4 only pulls in a handful of extra stuff
[14:34] <Hounddog> Hi everyonem i am just reinstalling ubuntu and actually looking into how to best split the installation between SSD and HDD. Maybee someone has a good recommendation for me
[14:34] <sandman13> philinux: can't understand you
[14:34] <fixmypc956> ok so maybe I should learn CLI a little more
[14:35] <fixmypc956> this is my 1st time putting a server together
[14:35] <philinux> sandman13;~ just enjoy your install whichever session your mood takes you to
[14:35] <Hounddog> i just put the swap on hdd as i reckon it would be hardly used having 16 gb ram already
[14:35] <philinux> fixmypc956;~ there is this too http://www.zentyal.org/
[14:36] <sandman13> philinux: okay will do thanks
[14:36] <fixmypc956> I looking to set it up as a NAS and media server
[14:37] <Hounddog> i am confused if i should keep the home on hdd or put it on ssd and symlink the downloads and such to the hdd
[14:37] <G[zero]D> Hi all, can I import in DIAgram-gnome, a lot of *.vss for visio?
[14:39] <fixmypc956> any idea on what would be the best way of doing the NAS and Media server
[14:40] <rmnbg85> exit
[14:41] <wilornel> Looks like the solution was to enable secure boot again!
[14:41] <philinux> Hounddog;~ I go with a data partition for media and use the home as just config files for the os
[14:41] <InQuiri> is anyone here use elementary os luna?
[14:42] <InQuiri> i got some issue with this distro
[14:42] <gabi1928> try #elementary
[14:42] <InQuiri> gabi1928: thanks man
[14:42] <Hounddog> philinux: so put ho;e on ssd and link the media to hdd you mean
[14:43] <philinux> InQuiri;~ try this http://elementaryos.org/support/live
[14:43] <Hounddog> or as i just read mount bind the user media
[14:44] <philinux> Hounddog;~ why link it's just another drive to drop stuff on
[14:44] <philinux> Hounddog;~ os will run well fast on ssd
[14:44] <Hounddog> philinux: i dont have an option to create media partition if you mean that
[14:45] <Hounddog> sorry if i sound a bit confuse... i mostly always let it handle itself before
[14:47] <B3RN0UT> hi, i'm using ubuntu server 12.04 behind a proxy, why can't i get any updates? the dns is configured
[14:48] <B3RN0UT> *google.com is available by ping
[14:49] <Nach0z> B3RN0UT: what's the error it's giving?
[14:49] <lenzeor> Hello everybody. I am on Ubuntu 12.04 (elementaryOS) and I would like to move my /home to a dedicated partition. I only have 1 partition on my HDD right now though. Can anybody help me?
[14:49] <xangua> lenzeor: /join #elementary
[14:50] <theadmin> lenzeor: ElementaryOS is not Ubuntu. But you can boot a LiveCD (Ubuntu one will do), resize the existing partition using GParted, move the contents of /home to there, and modify /etc/fstab accordingly.
[14:50] <theadmin> lenzeor: Once you've booted the LiveCD of Ubuntu, this channel may be able to help in more detail.
[14:52] <lenzeor> Thanks, theadmin... Sounds okay, I might be capable of that. I will read some things on the modification of fstab though. Is there no way to do it without a livecd?
[14:53] <theadmin> lenzeor: No, you can't resize the partition from which the OS is running.
[14:53] <theadmin> lenzeor: Also, make sure that the new /home has the same filesystem type as the main FS of your current setup.
[14:53] <lenzeor> Fat32 that would be
[14:53] <theadmin> lenzeor: Uh, no, that's unlikely. Linux can't run on Fat32.
[14:54] <Hounddog> blehm i dont know how to split this up in a reasonable way using ssd and hdd have 30gb on ssd and 400gb on hdd free currently for everything...
[14:54] <lenzeor> Whoops, meant ext4 srry theadmin
[14:54] <theadmin> lenzeor: Yeah, that's more likely
[14:56] <lenzeor> Linux cant run on FAT32? All my livesticks were formatted to fat32
[14:57] <Billions> lenzeor: of course it can run on fat32
[14:57] <theadmin> lenzeor: That's the live thing, it's different, the actual filesystem livecds use is Ext4, but it's wrapped up in a squashfs container
[14:57] <deedee> anyone knows this error? http://pastebin.com/wAAXsAZn  ( NetworkManager[1024]: <warn> nl_recvmsgs() error: (-33) Dump inconsistency detected, interrupted )
[14:57] <lenzeor> Okok
[14:57] <k1l> lenzeor: live-OS yes. but not installed oOS
[14:59] <mangrovejack> anybody awake?
[14:59] <nullsign> nop
[14:59] <Hounddog> nope
[15:00] <nullsign> no coffee... so im technically asleep.
[15:00] <ionux> Not me, no
[15:00] <B3RN0UT> Nach0z: the message is "Connection to de.archive.ubuntu.com:http impossible: [141.30.13.11 80]"
[15:00] <mangrovejack> ok i see
[15:00] <mangrovejack> how's it going?
[15:01] <mangrovejack> i'm using 13.04 and I might wait until i go to 13.10
[15:01] <Hounddog> ahhh there is too much information on how to do an optimum split setup on ssd and hdd on google...
[15:02] <Hounddog> am reading since about 2 hours and each page is confusing me more then actually helping me
[15:02] <ionux> What's the confusion, Hounddog?
[15:04] <nullsign> is there any reason to go from 12.10 to 13.04/13.10 ?
[15:04] <nullsign> for non desktop usage.
[15:04] <mangrovejack> i'm using a desktop
[15:04] <daedeloth_> encrypt or not encrypt?
[15:04] <xangua> nullsign: you mean server¿
[15:05] <nullsign> yep
[15:05] <Hounddog> ionux: i am currently doing a fresh install and want to split between ssd and hdd with ssd having 30gb and hdd having 400gb space
[15:05] <mangrovejack> it's a dirty old 1999 amd athalon with 2x75gb hdd
[15:05] <xangua> nullsign: is there any reason to use 12.10 instead of the LTS release for server¿
[15:05] <daedeloth_> is it a good idea to encrypt hard drives in ubuntu?
[15:05] <nullsign> xangua: a few packages i needed, nothing major
[15:06] <ionux> nullsign: I upgraded my server from 13.04 to 13.10 and it seems to be fine.  Haven't run into any issues so far except some PHP modules I had to reinstall.
[15:06] <Hounddog> so yeah / on ssd qnd swqp i have to hdd
[15:06] <mangrovejack> ok i might go to 13.10 then
[15:07] <mangrovejack> but i think 13.10 is a bit hungry for my old AMD
[15:07] <Hounddog> but where to keep home... ssd or hdd and earlier someone mentioned keep it on ssd and create media partition but there is not option in the partition tool for media
[15:07] <mangrovejack> real hungry
[15:08] <mangrovejack> gparted?
[15:08] <Hounddog> mangrovejack: you mean meM
[15:08] <mangrovejack> ahh
[15:10] <mangrovejack> i like to chat about ubuntu and i've been googling/ youtube (nixie pixel) etc and thats about it
[15:10] <Hounddog> hmmm :(
[15:10] <mangrovejack> i wanna learn HTML
[15:11] <mangrovejack> so i'll keep using my bluefish but it's time to trade in the old AMD
[15:11] <Hounddog> so i guess the only way is to just do it and hope not to screw it up
[15:11] <nullsign> www.cloudatcost.com .. these guys rock.. cheap perm VMs, one-time fee only..
[15:11] <Hounddog> which after reading and such i am sure i zill
[15:11] <nullsign> well, lifetime VM (* for the life of the company) ...
[15:12] <nullsign> heh
[15:13] <mangrovejack> i just learn trial and error
[15:13] <mangrovejack> i may need to ask some questions tho
[15:13] <nullsign> anyone use ecryptfs much on servers?
[15:13] <zetheroo> I moved a raid1 array (2 disks) from one server and placed them inside another .. "mdadm --detail /dev/md127" shows me the Name as the being the former server this array was in - how can I change this to the name of the new server?
[15:13] <mangrovejack> pdf files are a problem for me
[15:13] <nullsign> curious how much of a performance hit for logging in it creates..
[15:16] <mangrovejack> well bye
[15:17] <gimmic> Is there any way to have window position remembered by application?
[15:17] <gimmic> in a multi montior setup, I always want chrome to launch on #2, terminals in #1, and others in #3
[15:19] <Sven_vB> gimmic, i tried that for some time, but couldn't get it working without disabling auto-positioning for other, less position-important windows. so i made a script that waits for terminal etc. to appear and then place them with emctrl.
[15:19] <Sven_vB> *wmctrl
[15:21] <Sven_vB> any evince power users here? is there a way to tell it to, when printing a PDF, never shrink/fit it by default, but assume all unprintable border area is white anyway?
[15:22] <Sven_vB> on my install, it seems evince resets to auto-fit even when printing the same document twice in a row, without closing it or any like disruption.
[15:24] <minimec> Sven_vB: I have the option 'none' in my printer settings >'page handling' >'Page Scaling'
[15:25] <Sven_vB> i'll try that, thx
[15:30] <Guest82094> \server oltreirc.net
[15:31] <Sven_vB> in the printer's properties, i find "job options > scale to fit", and it is already unchecked. so there must be another cause why evince always tries to fit it.
[15:35] <jhw_> hi just installed lubuntu 10.1 on old dell laptop and wondering how i can change the screen resolution. It is currently at 800 x 600 i think.
[15:36] <Guest82094> list
[15:36] <pirret> whats ubuntu 10.1
[15:37] <Sven_vB> jhw_, usually there should be a settings menu or the like, but if not, you can also try xrandr on the terminal.
[15:37] <bwe> Hi, I get this message a couple of times daily: http://bpaste.net/show/OD5jVYT4jiShAA5py8bF/ Where can I set the correct sender address? The current address is 'user@server_host'.
[15:38] <Sven_vB> bwe, probably in the program that sends this mail. it looks like some copy-pasted programming example gone wild.
[15:38] <kairos> So I have a tunnel open to my home computer, but whenever I try to visit a webpage, a message pops up in the terminal thatmy SSH connection open in that says connection refused.
[15:38] <Guest82094> !list
[15:38] <kairos> (I should say that I'm forwarding port 9022 on my local machine to 80 on my remote box)
[15:39] <bwe> Sven_vB: How can I track back to the program which sends the mail?
[15:40] <Sven_vB> bwe, try tracking which programs start on your system. maybe it's a new cron job? or recently installed some new program?
[15:40] <Guest82094> \server oltreirc.net
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Guest82094. , in the server textbox , not the chat
[15:41] <Sven_vB> kairos, what's the exact message in the terminal?
[15:41] <bwe> Sven_vB: I think it's related to cron. But which tool sends the mail? cron?
[15:42] <Sven_vB> bwe, cron has several "cron jobs" configured, which usually are other programs to run. check "cron --list" to see the list of your cron jobs; each user on your system could have its own list, and you'd probably need to check them all.
[15:42] <kairos> Sven_vB: > channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[15:42] <Sven_vB> bwe, also see /etc/cron.d for additional cron jobs.
[15:43] <Pici> Sven_vB: I think you mean crontab -l
[15:43] <Sven_vB> Pici, bwe, right, just -l.
[15:43] <Sven_vB> oh and that "tab" of course :)
[15:44] <Pici> yeah ;)
[15:44] <jhw_> Thanks Sven_v8 xrandr say maximum resolution is 800 x 600. Is it possible to overwrite that without devastaing results?
[15:44] <nullsign> hrm.. what is the best method these days for joining two servers on a perm PTP SSL connection .. i was thinking of just using openvpn unless there is a better method now?
[15:45] <dast1986> hello, does anybody know a good procedure to create a Ubuntu Live USB Flash Drive?
[15:45] <nullsign> anyone who says stunnel gets punched.
[15:45] <Sven_vB> jhw_, i think i read somewhere in the xrandr manpage that one could add mode lines, but i don't know about them.
[15:45] <dast1986> I can only find the images for CD's and have no clue how to put it on a usb-drive
[15:46] <Sven_vB> dast1986, try usb-creator-gtk
[15:46] <bwe> Sven_vB: Okay. I needed to silence a few scripts with "> /dev/null 2>&1"
[15:46] <kairos> Sven_vB: I understand what's wrong, I think. In the form ssh -L <localport>:<remotehost>:<remoteport> is remotehost supposed to be my home box IP?
[15:46] <jhw_> ok thanks anyway. I'll do a bit more googlin
[15:46] <Sven_vB> kairos, it is where the other end shall connect. try localhost.
[15:46] <Guest41105> irc with saucy has issues
[15:47] <philinux> dast1986;~ click on the read the full installation.. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[15:47] <dast1986> Sven_vB: Cool, it think that helps. Thx, mate
[15:47] <kairos> Sven_vB: In that case, I get an error because I have a server running on there
[15:48] <Sven_vB> dast1986, if it vanishes without error, or just "memory corruption", just try again, i sometimes need 8-ish tries to get my iso on usb flash.
[15:48] <philinux> dast1986;~ to create usb are you on ubuntu now
[15:48] <dast1986> philinux: no, I'm on Debian
[15:48] <dast1986> philinux: I want to try out ubuntu for a short wile before installing it on my laptop
[15:49] <philinux> dast1986;~ i would use unetbootin from debian
[15:49] <kairos> Use dd
[15:49] <Sven_vB> kairos, that should be no problem. on the controlling end, you just choose any port; on the ssh server's side, that probably is the server you want to tunnel to, anyways. if not, try the other tunnel direction.
[15:50] <philinux> dast1986;~ it's a gui method and it's in debian repo
[15:50] <fixmypc956> just tried installing zentyal and im getting a GPG error can anyone help
[15:51] <Hossbeast> hello is it possible to have a package with an alias name ?
[15:51] <Hossbeast> i.e. sudo apt-get install foo_alias <-- installs the "foo" package
[15:52] <bwe> Sven_vB: Thanks for support!
[15:52] <kairos> Sven_vB: ssh -l 80:localhost:80 <host> should work, yeah?
[15:53] <kairos> er
[15:53] <kairos> -L*
[15:54] <Sven_vB> kairos, if your local port 80 is free, yes.
[15:55] <kairos> Bah. I keep getting the same connection refused message
[15:55] <kairos> even though I no longer have a server running on 80
[15:56] <daedeloth_> so, encryption for home folder, is it a good idea or not?
[15:57] <yeats> daedeloth_: in my experience it's more trouble than it's worth
[15:58] <sys64759> kairos: if you get connection refused printed by ssh it means there is nothing on the remote host you specified
[15:58] <yeats> daedeloth_: I would recommend full-disk encryption rather than just /home
[15:58] <triplc> Please advice how to get the updated Mplayer? I see on the upstream website that the current version is 1.1.1. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with a 1.0-rc... version. Is there a PPA for Mplayer?
[15:58] <Sven_vB> kairos, could it be that the remote server is bound to a specific interface?
[15:59] <D4CH_RPi> Hi guys. Is there a channel for Tails?
[15:59] <kairos> sys64759: I have an active SSH connection to it right now
[15:59] <kairos> sys64759: It's just saying connection refused when I try to connect through the tunnel
[15:59] <Sven_vB> kairos, login to ssh with usual shell and try netcat -vvv localhost 80
[16:00] <yeats> triplc: I see one for daily builds, but not one for releases
[16:00] <kairos> Sven_vB: Connection refused
[16:00] <sys64759> kairos: by running "lsof -ni" you can check if something ís listening there on port 80
[16:00] <triplc> yeats: oh, daily build.. pls give me the URL of that ppa
[16:01] <Sven_vB> kairos, that is the problem.
[16:01] <Sven_vB> kairos, check firewall permissions on the server.
[16:01] <SE> -
[16:01] <Sven_vB> kairos, also check which interfaces the webserver binds to.
[16:02] <yeats> triplc: https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/mplayer-daily
[16:02] <triplc> yeats: Hm... i read on that website: "This team is no longer active so please consider joining the Debian Multimedia Maintainers..."
[16:03] <triplc> i think the maintainer stop
[16:03] <yeats> triplc: yeah - that's the thing about PPAs :-/
[16:03] <triplc> i check that debian multimedia... but cannot find support for Ubuntu
[16:04] <yeats> triplc: it will be like that the further upstream you go
[16:04] <fixmypc956> just tried installing zentyal and im getting a GPG error can anyone help
[16:05] <Sven_vB> fixmypc956, try repeat sudo apt-get update, maybe it fixes that.
[16:06] <kairos> Man, this is infuriating
[16:06] <triplc> yeats: i see
[16:07] <bcuraboy> hi guys.is there any chat room for pear os??
[16:07] <Pici> !alis | bcuraboy
[16:08] <BluesKaj> update doesn't fix anything , upgrading after updating might
[16:09] <Sven_vB> BluesKaj, update did fix missing GPG signatures in multiple instances.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> if you use the gui
[16:09] <Sven_vB> or their keys, probably
[16:09] <fixmypc956> update is still giving me the GPG error
[16:10] <glitsj16> triplc: https://launchpad.net/~sander-vangrieken/+archive/vaapi has 1.1.1 mplayer for precise, don't worry about the va-api enabled bit; that is an extra .. the package is called mplayer-vaapi though, so use that to install after adding the PPA
[16:10] <Sven_vB> fixmypc956, what exactly does it say?
[16:10] <triplc> glitsj16: thanks!
[16:11] <sys64759> kairos: what do want to really achieve with the port redirection?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. then find the ppa that's giving the error and go to launchpad to find it , then run sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys xxxxxx
[16:12] <glitsj16> triplc: been using it for a few months now on raring, no issues, best of luck
[16:12] <fixmypc956> http://pastebin.com/6K0N5Vkh#
[16:13] <fixmypc956> thats what Im getting guys
[16:13] <triplc> glitsj16: i assume that for nvidia, maybe the vdpau is still ok, no need to enable va-api. anyway, having va-api feature is still cool
[16:15] <glitsj16> triplc: vdpau + mplayer is very much the reason i use mplayer yes, it saves quite a bit on CPU when playing video
[16:16] <triplc> right!
[16:16] <hex20dec> Hey people, I just got a new usb wifi adapter, and started installing it. At some point, I needed to reboot and now suddenly my first wifi adapter is disabled and I don't know how to re-enable it. I'm assuming its a driver collision or something?
[16:16] <hex20dec> Can anyone please help me?
[16:16] <Android98> hi
[16:17] <Rory> Hi Android98
[16:18] <smoores> how do you restart networking on 13.10?
[16:18] <Rory> smoores: sudo service networking restart
[16:19] <smoores> Rory, when I do that my desktop freezes
[16:19] <philinux> fixmypc956;~ fix pubkeys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221323
[16:19] <smoores> Rory, fresh install btw, ubuntu desktop 64 bit
[16:19] <smoores> its like X loses its connection too
[16:19] <Rory> smoores: Try sudo service network-manager restart
[16:19] <triplc> hex20dec: i cannot help you but i think that you need to have to give more information about ypu computer hardware before someone would know what's going on
[16:20] <smoores> Rory, thanks
[16:22] <smoores> Some dhcp clients on my lan are resolving a hostname to an external ip address while some other clients are resolving to an internal ip address. Same gateway and dns suffix, what might cause that? using ics-dhcp-server
[16:22] <Rory> smoores: Are they all ubuntu machines?
[16:22] <smoores> Rory, makes no difference if the dhcp client is ubuntu or windows in this case, it's seemingly random.
[16:22] <smoores> Rory, but the dhcp server is an ubuntu machine :)
[16:23] <Rory> smoores: Are they all set up to use the same DNS server?
[16:23] <Rory> Is the DHCp server also the DNS server?
[16:23] <molgrum> i have system alert sounds in gnome shell but not in unity, this is a problem because i cannot hear highlights on x-chat. i've tried resetting unity settings to no avail
[16:23] <smoores> Rory, the clients should be pulling the dns server from the dhcp server and the dhcp server should be configured to give the same nameservers to all the clients
[16:24] <smoores> Rory, any specific config files i need to check? i didn't set this up so i'm jumping in headfirst
[16:24] <jhutchins_wk> smoores: Resolving a hostname.  That has nothing to do with dhcp.
[16:24] <Rory> smoores: You should check what the nameserver is set to on a client that 8does* work, and a client that *doesn't*
[16:24] <smoores> Rory, i did. connection specific dns suffix in both cases is dns.example.tld
[16:24] <jhutchins_wk> My guess would be that some of the clients get the DNS settings from DHCP, and some don't.
[16:24] <ilhami> Hey I have a problem with my Linux Mint. Whenever I plugin my external monitor I am sent back to the login screen.
[16:24] <jhutchins_wk> !mint
[16:25] <ilhami> I know this might not be the right place to ask but I asked in that channel already and they couldn't solve it.
[16:25] <ilhami> I know Ubuntu and Mint have many things in common..
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> smoores: have you also checked for entries in the /etc/hosts file?
[16:26] <smoores> hitsujiTMO, nothing there besides localhost
[16:28] <Rory> smoores: Not the dns suffixes, the DNS server it's using
[16:28] <smoores> after getting dhcp my resolv.conf is nameserver 127.0.1.1 \ search gateway.example.tld, example.tld being my domain
[16:28] <neyder> help with apache virtual host in 13.10 , i'm trying to enable a site-available but says it doesn't exists.
[16:28] <smoores> neyder, /etc/apache2/sites-available, also #apache
[16:28] <neyder> but it does exists in /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[16:29] <Rory> smoores: can you run "nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep IP4.DNS" - replace eth0 with the name of your adaptor as appropriate
[16:29] <fixmypc956> now i get this http://pastebin.com/VJPqP4NG even after running sudo apt-get update
[16:29] <Rory> smoores: On Windows you can see the name server used with "ipconfig /all"
[16:29] <smoores> Rory, the output on my machine does not include the internal ip of the gateway
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> smoores: have a look with dig to see what response you're getting from the dns: dig @ip.of.dns.svr www.example.com
[16:30] <Rory> smoores: What DNS server is being used, is it something you recognise?
[16:30] <smoores> Rory, which is where i'm running bind with a zone file that resolves the hostnames i want to an internal address
[16:30] <smoores> Rory, oh yeah, its our comcast nameservers
[16:30] <fixmypc956> philinux: now i get this http://pastebin.com/VJPqP4NG even after running sudo apt-get update
[16:30] <smoores> Rory, but i want internal dns to go through our gateway first
[16:30] <Rory> smoores: Right... but your comcast nameservers won't have your zone file on it
[16:31] <smoores> Rory, ofc
[16:31] <Rory> smoores: You need to set the DNS servers on all your machines (or configure dhcp to do this automatically) to be some machine on your network running Bind
[16:31] <neyder> smoores, #apache tell me to  ask here xD
[16:31] <smoores> neyder, try it as sudo?
[16:31] <arun> guys , how can we install ubuntu software center in other debian distro without installing the ubuntu one , etc packages?
[16:31] <Rory> smoores: Then you need to configure Bind to use your comcast servers for any unresolved names
[16:32] <neyder> yes
[16:32] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. that's just duplicate source error , you have ppa.launchpad.net_zentyal_3.2_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages) list twice , remove ot comment one with a #
[16:32] <smoores> Rory, how can i set my local machine to use the ip address of our gateway as a nameserver temporarily
[16:33] <sandman13> does anyone know what compiz effect is used by unity on the window title?
[16:33] <fixmypc956> BluesKaj: where would i find that source error? in sources.list?
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> neyder: what is the exact command you're using to enable the site? and what is the full name of the configuration file?
[16:33] <Rory> smoores: on ubuntu, put it at the beginning of /etc/resolv.conf but it won't survive a reboot
[16:34] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. yes or in the package manager sources
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> smoores: you can add it in the head file
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Rory: ^
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> smoores: add it at the end of /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head   and it will be added above all other nameservers :)
[16:35] <Rory> smoores: Yes if you want it to persist after a reboot
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> smoores: ech "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:36] <Rory> I think you have to run something afterwards though, to regenerate resolv.conf. ActionParsnip ?
[16:37] <BluesKaj>  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head writes to /etc/resolv.conf
[16:37] <fixmypc956> BluesKaj: its not in /etc/apt/sources.list where else can I look
[16:37] <Rory> BluesKaj: Immediately? how?
[16:38] <smoores> Rory, so i got it working, but a couple hostnames still want to resolve externally which i can only imagine is due to something cached locally
[16:38] <smoores> Rory, how would i clear the dns cache on ubuntu
[16:38] <Rory> smoores: i think just restarting network-manager service
[16:38] <BluesKaj>  /etc/apt/sources.list.d  fix , open it with kdesudo dolphin in krunner , fixmypc956
[16:38] <yeats> Rory: when the interface is configured
[16:38] <neyder> hitsujiTMO, command sudo a2ensite extras.ubuntu.com
[16:39] <neyder> /etc/apache2/sites-available/ extras.ubuntu.com
[16:39] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. or geksudo with gedit
[16:39] <neyder> /etc/apache2/sites-available/extras.ubuntu.com
[16:39] <amar_> how to clear recent files through command line.. thanks..!
[16:39] <fixmypc956> can I sudo nano
[16:39] <Rory> fixmypc956: yes
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> neyder: please add a .conf to the end of the config file
[16:39] <neyder> hitsujiTMO, i'll try
[16:40] <BluesKaj> sorry fixmypc956 , forgot I was on #ubuntu , not #kubuntu
[16:40] <fixmypc956> well I did sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:40] <BluesKaj> that works m:)
[16:40] <fixmypc956> but I dont see a duplicate anywhere
[16:40] <smoores> that did it Rory, cheers for the help
[16:41] <arun> guys , how can we install ubuntu software center in other debian distro without installing the ubuntu one , etc packages?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> note the .d in the prvious post , fixmypc956
[16:41] <smoores> Rory, forget to put the new gateway ip in the ics-dhcp config
[16:41] <neyder> hitsujiTMO, in 12.04 it does not require .conf extension
[16:41] <neyder> xD
[16:42] <smoores> neyder, put .conf at the end of the file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/example.conf and then sudo a2ensite example
[16:42] <Rory> fixmypc956: Look in the folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for additional sources files
[16:42] <neyder> hitsujiTMO, ok solved
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> neyder: in 13.10/apache 2.4 its required
[16:42] <smoores> its required on the file but not the a2ensite command
[16:43] <neyder> thanks hitsujiTMO
[16:43] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. , alt+f2 , gksudo nautllus /etc/apt/sources.list.d , it's afolder , not a text file , there will be 2 ppas with the same name there
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> neyder: have a look here too http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html            there's some other configuration changes you need to look at
[16:43] <fixmypc956> Rory: I have 2 files
[16:43] <fixmypc956> I have zentyal-3_2-precise.list and zentyal-3_2-precise.list.save
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> fixmypc956: remove the .save file, that's from some text editor that never closed propperly
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> arun: i'd ask in #debian
[16:45] <AceBlade258> I need help using a recovery shell
[16:45] <fixmypc956> ok so do rm zentyal-3_2-precise.list.save
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> fixmypc956: yes
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> fixmypc956: grep -R zentyal /etc/apt/*   will show you
[16:46] <AceBlade258> My raid 5 array is degraded and preventing me from booting, I keep getting dropped to an initramfs shell
[16:47] <AceBlade258> if not here, does anybody know where i can go to get help with this?
[16:47] <AceBlade258> I know what i need to do, I just don't know how to use initramfs
[16:48] <jhutchins_wk> AceBlade258: If it's preventing you from booting you've probably lost more than one drive.
[16:49] <breedx_> hi what is bluetoothd's irc?
[16:49] <kairos> sys64759: Sorry for the delay mate. I want to tunnel my internet traffic through my home box
[16:49] <jhutchins_wk> AceBlade258: Do you have backups?
[16:49] <AceBlade258> jhutchins_wk: the array is not the boot drive
[16:49] <jhutchins_wk> AceBlade258: Then how is it preventing you from booting?
[16:50] <AceBlade258> jhutchins_wk: the drives are all good, it's a software crash
[16:50] <breedx_> im getting discovery problems on devices after the latest dist-upgrade (maybe not related) that says that discovery failed because of powered off
[16:50] <AceBlade258> during boot, it fails to start the array
[16:50] <breedx_> is there a bluetooth dev irc?
[16:50] <AceBlade258> rather it tells me the array is degraded and asks if i want to start it
[16:51] <AceBlade258> If i hit no, i takes me ti initramfs imediatly
[16:51] <compdoc> AceBlade258, how do you know the drives are good?
[16:51] <AceBlade258> seatools
[16:51] <compdoc> what does disk utility say?
[16:51] <Reacto> My nvidia-settings reset on every reboot, anyone had this problem before? Even if I save xorg.conf and save current configuration it doesn't help
[16:51] <AceBlade258> i'm a technician at a computer shop, i just don't know linux recovery very well yet.
[16:52] <bipul> I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, but my cam is not working :(
[16:52] <AceBlade258> if i hit yes, it fails to start the degraded array and takes me to initramfs
[16:52] <fixmypc956> after running grep -R zentyal /etc/apt/* i get this http://pastebin.com/4RDfb9CC
[16:52] <AceBlade258> the inital crash was because of my motherboard/chipset
[16:53] <compdoc> AceBlade258, you want to look at the SMART data. IF there are any reallocated sectors, the drive gets dropped from the array. Amy also happen with pending sectors
[16:53] <AceBlade258> compdoc: i'm actually not too concerned with the array. I just need to get to ubuntu
[16:53] <AceBlade258> sorry
[16:54] <AceBlade258> i meant to make that clear.
[16:54] <AceBlade258> I want to disable raid initialization during boot essentially
[16:54] <breedx_> ** fixed it, thank your arch linux forums.
[16:55] <compdoc> what if you disconnected the dropped drive?
[16:55] <breedx_> ** needed hciconfig hci0 up
[16:55] <AceBlade258> compdoc: I'd have to disconnect all of them
[16:57] <AceBlade258> from my understanding, if i remove /lib/udev/rules.d/64-md.raid.rules
[16:58] <AceBlade258> (that's a lot harder to type without tab complete...) that will skip that tep
[16:58] <AceBlade258> *step
[16:59] <Wug> I don't suppose anyone here is an expert with the ext4 filesystem? I'm trying to recover some data
[16:59] <AceBlade258> however, every time I have tried to move the file from initramfs, it doesn't work. more accurately, When i do, it dosen't make the change on teh disk
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> !details | wug
[16:59] <thai-2012> hi! I'm new user here. Can i ask some questions about Ubuntu?
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | thai-2012
[17:00] <Wug> scenario is "deleted files that I needed".  not hardware failure.  I've gone so far as imaging the device and I've done some grepping through the image (thankfully the data is all in a fairly regular format) so as far as I know, I have a list of all filesystem blocks that contain the data in the files I deleted
[17:01] <Rory> Wug: You have an image, that's really good. You should use testdisk to try to recovery files
[17:01] <thai-2012> i have Ubuntu 12 04 (OEM) in my netbook. Manufacturer says that my netbook have touchscreen. But in my Ubuntu touch don't work. help?
[17:01] <Wug> testdisk doesn't work
[17:01] <Wug> tried it first
[17:01] <AceBlade258> Wug, how deleted were the files?
[17:01] <Wug> it shows the directory I deleted, but is unable to identify its contents
[17:01] <AceBlade258> if they were removed from the filesystem, the image win't have them
[17:01] <Wug> AceBlade258: probably just rm'd
[17:02] <AceBlade258> *won't
[17:02] <Wug> the filesystem definitely has them, they show up when I grep the image
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> Wug: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Extract_individual_files_from_recovered_image
[17:02] <Wug> basically, I have a gigantic list of filesystem blocks containing data from an assortment of about 30000 files, and need to somehow stitch them back together
[17:02] <fixmypc956> BluesKaj: after running grep -R zentyal /etc/apt/* i get this http://pastebin.com/4RDfb9CC
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> wug: what types of files are they?
[17:03] <Wug> log files
[17:03] <eer> Could someone please tell me how I can create a password protected  zip file under Kubuntu with GUI?
[17:03] <Wug> all ascii text of a very regular format
[17:03] <thai-2012> !patience
[17:03] <Wug> grepping through the image probably found all of them
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> wug: is it a deleted partition or just deleted files?
[17:03] <Wug> there might be a small number of blocks that are irrecoverably overwritten but I'm ok with that
[17:04] <Wug> just files
[17:04] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. use sudo with that command
[17:04] <AceBlade258> how do I mount my system partition fo modifing in initramfs
[17:04] <AceBlade258> *for
[17:05] <thai-2012> Who can advice me good mp3 player (soft) for Ubuntu? i want listen radio and  my music,
[17:06] <Wug> basically, I have misc. and assorted filesystem blocks containing the data of the files, and if I can somehow find any remaining bits of the fs structures that stored the allocation information for these blocks than my job will be really easy
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> wug: text files can be a pain in the ass tbh. most recovery software do a heuristic scan and look for markers that represent known file types, but text documents don't exactly cayy any particular markers( with the exception of structured files such as xml files.
[17:07] <fixmypc956> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/9eNmpXkU with sudo
[17:07] <InQuIrI> thai-2012: try banshee
[17:07] <Wug> since multiple copies of these files have existed in the past I'm currently running over each block and hashing it to identify duplicates
[17:08] <Wug> that's probably about done now
[17:08] <Wug> nope, its still going
[17:08] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. your post was detected as spam , try again
[17:08] <fixmypc956> BluesKaj: Even after sudo apt-get update i get the same error of Duplicate sources.list
[17:08] <aFeijo> hi, anyone using "monit" here?
[17:09] <aFeijo> monit returns me this "Error: the executable does not exist '“/etc/init.d/mysql' " but mysql script is there
[17:09] <BluesKaj> fixmypc956. did you remove the duplicate ppa , then reboot ?
[17:09] <thai-2012> InQuIrI Thank you
[17:09] <fixmypc956> BluesKaj: here is the pastebin again http://pastebin.com/9eNmpXkU
[17:09] <fixmypc956> I did remove it but didnt reboot
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> wug: have a look at Sleuthkit
[17:10] <InQuIrI> fixmypc956: go to software sources
[17:10] <InQuIrI> fixmypc956: you cannot reboot your lappie/pc?
[17:11] <thai-2012> i wish get transparency theme in Ubuntu. But in my system i see only 4 themes. where i can go theme?
[17:11] <fixmypc956> I can reboot server
[17:11] <fixmypc956> just didnt
[17:11] <fixmypc956> but will do now
[17:11] <albertoguz20> good morning, I have a question I tried to setup my eth0 to static ip, what I did was to edit the network file and setup the static ip, gateway, broadcast and submask, after that I set the dnss and unstalled the dhcp-client, I tried to use the command sudo  /etc/init.d/networking restart but did not work so I rebooted the computer after that, I just login to the computer and I could not see the eth01 any more
[17:11] <albertoguz20> please help
[17:12] <InQuIrI> thai-2012: what is your ubuntu version?
[17:12] <albertoguz20> 12.04.3
[17:12] <thai-2012> InQuIrI 12 04 OEM
[17:13] <Wug> hitsujiTMO: one issue is that analysis indicates all of the inodes originally allocated to the files has been cleared
[17:13] <InQuIrI> you can go to gnomelook.org. there are a lot of nice theme for you to try
[17:13] <Wug> have been cleared*
[17:13] <thai-2012> InQuIrI it's easy to install these themes?
[17:14] <listen_to_the_bo> hello
[17:14] <Wug> I already tried piping all of the blocks through debugfs' icheck to see if there were any blocks that were allocated to any inodes and most of them came up blank
[17:14] <Wug> the few that weren't were all part of unfortunate surviving files like .bash_history
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> wug: then a heuristic scan is all that can be done and for text files thats extremely difficult i'm afraid
[17:14] <InQuIrI> thai-2012: yes. super easy
[17:14] <Wug> yeah. that's what I was afraid of
[17:15] <Wug> I might put some more effort into looking over the inode table in case they were soft deleted somehow
[17:15] <listen_to_the_bo> lol=msgbox("welcome to the web",10,"hello")
[17:15] <thai-2012> sorry but i have another question. I have 12 04 in my netbook. Recently my system find 299 updates. 250 MB. I need to install all?
[17:15] <listen_to_the_bo> no
[17:15] <listen_to_the_bo> or yes
[17:15] <listen_to_the_bo> who knows?
[17:15] <Wug> since I've been able to recover some directory indices containing large numbers of inode/filename sets
[17:15] <listen_to_the_bo> thai pai
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | listen_to_the_bo
[17:16] <listen_to_the_bo> ok den
[17:16] <listen_to_the_bo> i have to download TOR how can i do this?
[17:16] <albertoguz20> good morning, I have a question I tried to setup my eth0 to static ip, what I did was to edit the network file and setup the static ip, gateway, broadcast and submask, after that I set the dnss and unstalled the dhcp-client, I tried to use the command sudo  /etc/init.d/networking restart but did not work so I rebooted the computer after that, I just login to the computer and I could not see the eth01 any more
[17:17] <Wug> albertoguz20: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces and link it for us
[17:17] <listen_to_the_bo> i'm out no one loves me :'(
[17:17] <albertoguz20> ok
[17:18] <thai-2012> listen_to_the... Try install TOR in software center
[17:18] <InQuIrI> thai-2012: depends.. for me, i will update only the important one
[17:18] <fixmypc956> Ok guys even after reboot I still get the same thing http://pastebin.com/jnE44TKX
[17:18] <OerHeks> !tor
[17:18] <fixmypc956> thats after running sudo apt-get update
[17:19] <rostam> HI I have insalled ubuntu on one of my system (12.04), I like to remove the disk and install it on similiar system. Where should I change the mac address of original system?
[17:19] <thai-2012> InQuIrI Thanks ))))
[17:19] <albertoguz20> auto eth0
[17:19] <InQuIrI> thai-2012: you're most welcome
[17:20] <thai-2012> InQuIrI can i ask you? Ubuntu 12 04 has Touch screen option? my netbook has touch screen
[17:20] <albertoguz20> auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.200.23 netmask 255.255.254.0 gateway 192.168.200.1
[17:20] <Beldar> fixmypc956, Two sources lists souurces.list and sources.list.d are you aware of this?
[17:21] <Beldar> fixmypc956,Run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgarde and pastebin it
[17:21] <Beldar> upgrade*
[17:21] <InQuIrI> sorry thai-2012 .. can't help you on this as my lappie do not have this function :)
[17:22] <darkblue_b> Q. I added postgres repos for Precise per http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt, in Synaptic I can see the repo.. but in Synaptic the 9.3 versions do not appear.. however, apt-cache search shows the 9.3 versions.. Why dont they appear in Synaptic? What else do I have to do ?
[17:22] <albertoguz20> whe I apply the command sudo /etc/init.d/ networking restart I receive the following error ifup: could not  read interfaces files "/etc/network/interfaces
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: sudo apt-get update    then retry, no idea otherwise
[17:23] <unicornjedi> Hello, I need help configuring Postfix.
[17:23] <darkblue_b> I did the apt-get update, yes
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> albertoguz20: what is the output of:  ls -la /etc/network/interfaces
[17:23] <darkblue_b> before asking
[17:23] <riqdiiz> If only i could get an linux cd .....
[17:23] <darkblue_b> also got the public key for the new repo...
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: why are you using synaptic anyway?
[17:24] <thai-2012> i open bashee player now. Clicked radio. I'm expected list with radio stations... but there are blank list...only add radio button
[17:24] <fixmypc956> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/hcnKeNYQ
[17:24] <darkblue_b> ActionParsnip: thats not an answer!
[17:24] <albertoguz20> -rw-r--r-- 1 root 336 nov 22 11:1 /etc/network/interfaces
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: are there any bugs reported?
[17:25] <darkblue_b> anyway, I just apt-get update *again* and launched synaptic *again* and *now* they do show!
[17:25] <Beldar> fixmypc956, Are you aware of the two different sources lists?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> albertoguz20: it'sslightly out
[17:25] <darkblue_b> so , three times the charm
[17:25] <fixmypc956> Beldar: no I am not
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> albertoguz20: sudo chown root:root /etc/network/interfaces
[17:25] <albertoguz20> ok
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> albertoguz20: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:25] <darkblue_b> ActionParsnip: looking for related bugs, yes that would be a good step thx
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: why are you using synaptic?
[17:25] <Beldar> fixmypc956, That is you problem, there is /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:25] <Beldar> your*
[17:26] <fixmypc956> Beldar: ok what must I do to fix this issue
[17:26] <darkblue_b> ActionParsnip: thats a change of subject :-)
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: /etc/apt/sources.list.d is normal to have, it is a directory
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: maybe, but can you answer my quesstion please
[17:26] <Beldar> Beldar, You can go to software sources and untick the extra and also remove from there if you like.
[17:27] <darkblue_b> nope - "why have you stopped beating your wife" ...
[17:27] <fixmypc956> Beldar: this is a server setup I have no gui
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: I answered your questions, would you kindly answer mine
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: its only polite
[17:27] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, Yes thats right, however the user has a duplicate they can't find and is not aware of the two places it could be.
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: use grep
[17:27] <darkblue_b> thx for your help
[17:27] <albertoguz20> ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:27] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, They have been
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> daedeloth_: whatever
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: grep -R text /etc/apt/*
[17:28] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, Its not me with the problem.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: will show the occurrences of text in ALL the files in /etc/apt   you can then relay to the user with the issue
[17:29] <fixmypc956> Beldar: I can pastebin after running that if u want to look at it
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: ^
[17:30] <Beldar> fixmypc956, run this and pastebin all of it. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[17:30] <riqdiiz> Who is beating his wife?
[17:30] <Beldar> !ot | riqdiiz
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: what is the duplicated line/repo?
[17:32] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, here is their paste http://pastebin.com/hcnKeNYQ
[17:33] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, I have not really followed this they had other help, sources stuff is pretty basic so I figured they had it covered but see that is not the case.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> fixmypc956: grep -R zentyal /etc/apt/*    what is the output?
[17:34] <MarcSummers> 'op
[17:35] <lonewulf85> Hey are there any owners of the Acer AO722 netbook on here that are running Ubuntu 12.04 x64
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: just ask your question :)
[17:36] <mguy> lonewulf85: what problem are you having with it? I owned one  in the 11.x days
[17:36] <Nach0z> pfff no. nobody uses acer anymore. apple is clearly superior.
[17:36] <wilornel> Hey guys, after many attempts of trying to install u untu12.04 alongside windows 8,  i decided to install Ubuntu on the whole disk, meaning I removed Windows8.... Problem is, I am STIL getting the "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed to install"
[17:36] <Beldar> !ot | Nach0z
[17:36] <Nach0z> Beldar: it was a joke :|
[17:36] <lonewulf85> My issue is with the fn and dimmer keys they do not work ie they will not dim the screen.
[17:36] <fixmypc956> here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/SZcjnDTw
[17:37] <Beldar> Nach0z, This is support not kokes and chat.
[17:37] <Beldar> jokes
[17:38] <mguy> lonewulf85: Does the slider move or just nothing
[17:39] <lonewulf85> mguy, nothing
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> lonewulf85: can you pastebin the ouput of: ls -l /sys/class/backlight/
[17:39] <mguy> Try this
[17:39] <mguy> http://askubuntu.com/a/325446/124699
[17:39] <Beldar> fixmypc956, You did not run the full command ActionParsnip gave you, grep -R zentyal /etc/apt/*
[17:39] <lonewulf85> hitsujiTMO, I would but I am on a different machine right now and the netbook is at home.
[17:40] <fixmypc956> yes I did
[17:40] <Beldar> fixmypc956, I see this grep -R text /etc/apt/*
[17:40] <fixmypc956> oops wrong one
[17:40] <fixmypc956> let me redo it
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> lonewulf85: ahh, ok. try what mguy suggested first. if that doens't work come back to us when you have the laptop and hopefully someone here will be able to guide you through making some custom scripts for the buttons to work
[17:41] <Beldar> fixmypc956, hehe easy mistake no biggie. ;)
[17:42] <fixmypc956> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/8s0Yh8HC
[17:42] <davidrsmorris> Hey, this is probably one for a FAQ list somewhere, but does anyone know what widget 12.04 uses for sound?  If I call something else, it's not able to unmute the sound once I've logged into Awesome.
[17:43] <tozen> clean
[17:43] <tozen> upps... X)
[17:43] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, from fixmypc956  http://pastebin.com/8s0Yh8HC
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> fixmypc956: rm that sources.list.save   and remove the line: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/zentyal/3.2/ubuntu precise main     from sources.list
[17:43] <xangua> davidrsmorris: widget¿ ubutu uses pusleausio server for sound
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> fixmypc956: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/zentyal-3_2-precise.list /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[17:44] <lonewulf85> hitsujiTMO, I was hoping to not have to do a custom script. They worked just fine then I had to reinstall because of a corrupted partition, used the same /home and now they do not work. I was hoping it might be a config file somewhere on my /home partition.
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Beldar: see how grep does the work for you :)
[17:45] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, Yeah, I just have never really used it, I rarely have a need to search for stuff.
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/251-ubuntu-precise-acer-ao722
[17:45] <fixmypc956> ok should I now run sudo apt-get update
[17:45] <lonewulf85> mguy, That was one of the first things I tried editing my grub did not help.
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> fixmypc956: yes, and it will be smooth
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> lonewulf85: a config file in /home should not have control of the acpid keys afaik. you would certainly need to have the laptop with you so we can track down the cause of the issue.
[17:46] <Beldar> ActionParsnip, certainly more helpful here than in my own work is all I will look closer at its use, thanks.
[17:47] <lonewulf85> ActionParsnip, Nice to chat again. I also ran throw those steps for the first install on my netbook.
[17:47] <lonewulf85> hitsujiTMO, Well then Tomorrow I will get on with my netbook.
[17:50] <fixmypc956> ok guys it went smoothly
[17:56] <hashguy> is there any way on SSH to find out the username of the remote end?
[17:57] <hashguy> so if I am logged in as hashguy@hostA.com and I "ssh admin@hostB.com", is there a way for hostB to know that it was hashguy who logged in from hostA?
[17:58] <devicenull> how would I go about debugging issues with the installer?  I'm seeing a 5 minute hang for no apparent reason.  syslog with DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 shows this: https://gist.github.com/devicenull/4771ad61cfc25d95e3b5
[17:58] <zykotick9> hashguy: i'd hope NOT, sounds like that would be security risk...
[17:58] <binary> hey guise
[17:58] <Beldar> fixmypc956, Cool, now you know who one of the best helpers here is, hehe that's not me.
[17:58] <binary> i changed my password but it did not change ecryptfs-mount-private pass
[17:58] <binary> any ideas?
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> hashguy: no, there is no requirement for ssh to know the clients user account
[18:00] <binary> i have to log in with new password - then do CTRL ALT F1, then mount ecryptfs-mount-private with old pass, then CTRL ALT F7 back to GUI then retype new password :(
[18:00] <hashguy> hitsujiTMO: I'm not asking for a requirement, I'm asking if there's something I can do to let it happen
[18:00] <hashguy> like an option in ~/.ssh/config or something
[18:01] <hashguy> We have multiple people with access to the SSH key for one box, and things keep getting "mysteriously changed"
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> hashguy: no. its not part of the spec so that info will never get sent. is there a particular reason why you want that info?
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> hashguy: you should have different accounts for every user
[18:01] <hashguy> hitsujiTMO: There's only one user on the machine - ec2-user
[18:02] <binary> maybe change permissions on folders and files and only give necessary privileges to those that need them
[18:02] <hashguy> well, I mean only one non-system user
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> hashguy: then create user accounts for each person who needs access to the machine. if you need an audit trail this is what you must do
[18:03] <hashguy> I am hesitant to touch EC2's configuration, and was hoping there was something I could change on MY end first
[18:03] <binary> what is the GUI way to change password in ubuntu 12 point whatever?
[18:04] <ezra-s> binary, settings - users ?
[18:04] <binary> I think I will just re-install and possibly rid my machine of trojans spyware and other malware
[18:04] <binary> oh thanks ezra-s
[18:04] <Beldar> binary, I doubt you have any of that in linux
[18:04] <ezra-s> :)
[18:05] <binary> user accounts?
[18:05] <ezra-s> binary, yes
[18:05] <Beldar> binary, passwd in the cli
[18:05] <ezra-s> binary, there should be an "unlock" button or similar so you can make modifications
[18:06] <ezra-s> excuse my lack of precision I'm on kubuntu right now
[18:06] <binary> passwd did not also update ecryptfs-mount-private so that password is the same as the old password
[18:06] <binary> also where in user accounts do I change my pass?
[18:06] <binary> i did unlock it ezra-s but I don't see a place to change pass
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> binary: click on the password field.
[18:07] <binary> oh I just select the ***** field and I get a GUI dialog
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> binary: yes its not very obvious
[18:08] <binary> i farted and got a call from a recruiter
[18:09] <ezra-s> binary, select the user to change the password, password should be there
[18:10] <binary> cool ezra-s. yes, I see an option to disable account or change pass
[18:14] <binary> ezra-s have you had problems changing your password with passwd command and ecryptfs-mount-private?
[18:14] <ezra-s> binary, yes
[18:14] <ezra-s> but that was in earlier versions of ubuntu
[18:14] <ezra-s> binary, which version are you using? do you have the master password still?
[18:14] <binary> Does changing the pass with the GUI in user accounts resolve this problem ezra-s?
[18:15] <Guest5821> daaaa daaaaa daaa
[18:15] <ezra-s> binary, no, once you have a problem you need the master password
[18:15] <Guest5821> daaaaaa
[18:15] <binary> ezra 12.04 LTS
[18:15] <Guest5821> daaaaddaaaaaa
[18:16] <binary> ezra-s the master password was my user account password for the last year
[18:16] <Guest5821> i still believe living your lies
[18:16] <Guest5821> I just dont care what youve done in your life
[18:16] <binary> ezra-s yes I still remember this pass
[18:16] <Guest5821> baby ill always be here by your side
[18:16] <Guest5821> dont leave me waiting too long please come by
[18:16] <ezra-s> binary, I think I used a bad wording, I recall it was a master key
[18:16] <Hounddog> should i when installing ubuntu put ho;t on ssd or hdd?
[18:16] <Guest5821> i still believe in your lies
[18:16] <ezra-s> binary, I can't help you much, it's been long since I used that
[18:16] <Guest5821> there is no choice i belong to your lies
[18:16] <binary> ezra-s do you mean the key to recover?
[18:16] <Hounddog> i mean /home
[18:16] <ezra-s> binary, yes
[18:16] <Guest5821> you'll be my baby ill fly away
[18:17] <Guest5821> ill fly with you
[18:17] <Guest5821> okay
[18:17] <Guest5821> time for another song
[18:17] <FloodBot1> Guest5821: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:17] <ezra-s> !op | Guest5821
[18:17] <binary> Thanks for your help ezra-s. I am going to log out and see if it works for my encrypted home folder and my user account.
[18:17] <binary> Thankyou again for the help ezra-s :D I had fun in here
[18:17] <Guest5821> ezra-s, why you hating dawg?
[18:17] <ezra-s> binary, leave a session logged in
[18:17] <Flannel> Guest5821: Please stop that.  This is a technical support channel, not a social one.
[18:17] <ezra-s> binary, just in case ;)
[18:17] <Guest5821> okay Flannel
[18:17] <Guest5821> You have persuaded me
[18:18] <binary> How do I do that ezra-s?
[18:18] <binary> I can log in as guest or log in as me
[18:19] <binary> that is it ezra-s
[18:19] <ezra-s> binary, do you know how to use the terminal?
[18:19] <binary> i did back up with an encrypted portable drive - hopefully it is compatible with new version of ubuntu
[18:19] <binary> yes ezra-s i am familiar with some bash
[18:20] <binary> pwd
[18:20] <binary> dir
[18:20] <binary> mkdir
[18:20] <binary> cd
[18:20] <FloodBot1> binary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:20] <binary> ls
[18:20] <ezra-s> you can ctrl+alt+f1 to go to first terminal from X, then ALT+F1 or F2, or F3 for different terminals, so you leave one logged and do changes and tries with the other
[18:20] <ezra-s> so in case you screw something you don't lock yourself out
[18:20] <binary> not sure even how to use enter as punctuation FloodBot1 unless people are typing unicode :D
[18:21] <binary> oh wow cool ezra-s
[18:21] <ezra-s> binary if you use | most will understand
[18:21] <binary> the pipes ezra-s?
[18:21] <ezra-s> binary, pipes in channel to simulate intro or you can use \ as in bash
[18:21] <ezra-s> hehe
[18:21] <ezra-s> or ;
[18:21] <binary> lol
[18:22] <Rav3nW00D> heya
[18:23] <binary> okay ezra-s i am going to give it a try - CTRL ALT F1'ing now
[18:23] <Hounddog> somehow i get a feeling no one here has used ssd by now
[18:24] <zykotick9> ezra-s: fyi, while in console ALT+ARROW (left or right) is a fast way to switch between consoles
[18:24] <binary> wow
[18:24] <binary> I have never done that before ezra-s
[18:24] <binary> it worked
[18:25] <xangua> !patience | Hounddog
[18:25] <ezra-s> nice
[18:25] <binary> I logged in and did not get any messages about *Signature not found in user keyring* and then having to mount ecryptfs-mount-private separately and with the old password
[18:25] <ezra-s> what's up Hounddog
[18:25] <Hounddog> xangua: if you check the channel logs i have been asking since about 6 hours noz and searching google etc
[18:26] <Hounddog> xangua: not sure i have more patience then that
[18:26] <pleanbean> Hey. Is downgrading from 14.04 to 13.10 as straight forward as installing 13.10 over the 14.04 install?
[18:26] <Hounddog> ezra-s: am confused how to partition and split up the installation between ssd and hdd
[18:26] <ezra-s> pleanbean, certainly not
[18:26] <zykotick9> pleanbean: you CAN'T really downgrade!  you have to reinstall...
[18:27] <binary> well i gotta get some other work done. Thank-you for your expertise ezra-s :D and chat skills
[18:27] <pleanbean> Ok, thats fine. But I can simply reinstall directly over my 14.04 installation, right
[18:27] <ezra-s> Hounddog, depends on your needs really and the size of each
[18:27] <ezra-s> binary, a pleasure
[18:27] <pleanbean> Or should I repartition and start from scratch
[18:27] <Hounddog> ezra-s: like should the home go in ssd and symlink media folders to hdd or put the /ho;e on hdd and sy;link configs etc to sssd
[18:27] <ezra-s> Hounddog, tell me the size of each and what are you going to do with it
[18:28] <Hounddog> ezra-s: am running dual boot and have 30gb on ssd and 400 gb on hdd
[18:28] <nooblinux> Hello helpful community
[18:29] <Hounddog> ezra-s: +16gb ram and mostly for work php development whereas i might also install steam
[18:29] <ezra-s> Hounddog, I have a similar setup to you, I use SSD for the OS meaning / and HDD is a specific folder inside my /home, it is a very simple setup but as a desktop user where I use ssd I didn't need anything more complex
[18:29] <nooblinux> I am running a headless ubuntu server on laptop but every time I close the lid it keeps suspending. How do I prevent suspension when lid is closed?
[18:29] <ezra-s> Hounddog, the specific directory I mentioned in which I mount the hdd is for a steam library
[18:29] <Hounddog> ezra-s: just dont want to end up with the system telling me there is no more space
[18:29] <nooblinux> Is there a text file I must edit via command-line?
[18:30] <Hounddog> ezra-s: great so you know what i need lol
[18:30] <ezra-s> Hounddog, you can use ssd for games in which you want to go very fast and create another steam library in the hdd for those that don't need such, since the space is limited in the ssd it may give you room for a few games
[18:30] <Hounddog> i was reading on google but with each article it gets more confusing
[18:30] <trism> nooblinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141866/keep-ubuntu-server-running-on-a-laptop-with-the-lid-closed
[18:31] <trism> nooblinux: hmm maybe I should have read that closer first
[18:31] <Hounddog> ezra-s: so you just installed everything on ssd to / and then symlinked?
[18:31] <ezra-s> Hounddog, if you want to make something more complex you could have /var or other main directories in the hdd
[18:32] <Hounddog> ezra-s: i need also vm/vagrant which should be fast
[18:32] <nooblinux> what trism?
[18:32] <ezra-s> Hounddog, I didn't symlink, everything on ssd (mine is 120GB), and in my home I made a new fstab entry to mount the hdd as "exthdd" with my permissions and all, that's where I have the second steam library and where I install most games
[18:33] <ezra-s> Im not at home now so I can't copy paste it to you
[18:33] <ezra-s> but you get the overall image I guess
[18:33] <Hounddog> ezra-s: sounds fine to me... so it should be fairly si;ple
[18:34] <Hounddog> start by installing everything to /
[18:34] <SlutaTramsa> I'm on ubuntu 13.10 and i want to install the proprietary ati radeon 6950 drivers, is fglrx-updates good enough or should i get the latest from AMDs website? which is better?
[18:34] <trism> nooblinux: if 13.10 I see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360615/ubuntu-server-13-10-now-goes-to-sleep-when-closing-laptop-lid the other answer might work on an older ubuntu
[18:34] <ezra-s> Hounddog, yes, you don't want to make things too complex, just think about the space you will need for each thing, a typical ubuntu installation will rarely ever eat more than 12 GB
[18:34] <nooblinux> Yes it is ubuntu 13.10
[18:34] <ezra-s> another thing is games and such
[18:34] <Hounddog> ezra-s: well i dedicated now 30 gb for it
[18:35] <ezra-s> Hounddog, best thing of Linux in ssd is seeing it boot up in less than 5 secs
[18:35] <ezra-s> :)
[18:35] <Guest89745> How can I change back to the default Ubuntu boot screen after having it changed to Xubuntu when I installed the desktop packages for Xubuntu?
[18:36] <Hounddog> ezra-s: i know i had it before but i screwed up with graphics and space and whatever else could go wrong
[18:36] <ezra-s> Guest89745, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm" from console
[18:37] <ezra-s> Hounddog, 30GB is a bit tight really, if you don't mind much about boot up speed you can install in the hdd and use the sdd mounted as a folder in your home for a specific steam library and vm's
[18:37] <tozen> hi all!! how can i check network activity on console? i mean active or not? thx
[18:37] <binary> whois binary
[18:37] <mguy> tozen: be more specific
[18:37] <ezra-s> Hounddog, just think hard what you want, it really is your preference what determines how to partition it all
[18:37] <Pici> Guest89745: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u
[18:37] <Hounddog> ezra-s: i just want ssd for boot and stuff that needs to be fast
[18:37] <zykotick9> tozen: i like bmon myself... YMMV
[18:37] <Guest89745> ezra-s, Pici thank you
[18:38] <ezra-s> since it is for desktop don't make it too complex, no matter what some say about making several partitions
[18:38] <Hounddog> ezra-s: now i created / for 30 gb...
[18:38]  * BluesKaj wishes these guest nicks weren't available , how dificult is it for nickserv to send a message to create a proper nick , even temporarily?
[18:38] <binary> ezra-s I rebooted and changing the password using the GUI method did not also update the ecryptfs-mount-private thing
[18:39] <Hounddog> BluesKaj: but nickserv can only send a message to people who are connected with a nick
[18:39] <binary> now I am burning ubuntu13 and seeing if I can re-install from backups instead of trying to change my ecryptfs-mount-private password
[18:39] <ezra-s> sorry, brb
[18:40] <Hounddog> ezra-s: i will just do this for now and then mount stuff to the big hdd
[18:40] <tozen> mguy: as example tiping in <# uwf status> i get respond is <active>
[18:40] <tozen> mguy: is it possible to smth about network?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> Hounddog. it can't be too difficult to for freeenode to set that up
[18:41] <tozen> mguy: just active or not thats it
[18:42] <Hounddog> BluesKaj: go send them a pr :p
[18:42] <Sven_vB> tozen, with "active", do you mean ready to exchange data, or really exchanging data atm?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> Hounddog. already have
[18:43] <tozen> Sven_vB: ready to receive really connected to network
[18:43] <BluesKaj> they just ignore those suggestions , giuestnicks are easy and convenient for them
[18:43] <Sven_vB> tozen, does "connected" require the default gateway being reachable?
[18:44] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: i know it's rather "harsh", but i solve teh Guest-issue by using "/ignore Guest*" in my client...
[18:44] <Sven_vB> tozen, or is it enough if the adapter thinks a cable is plugged in?
[18:46] <rt_91> Hi
[18:46] <Gblue> I'm so frustrated!
[18:46] <Gblue> WuBi won't work :(
[18:46] <jmgk> hi
[18:46] <Gblue> And I don't have a CD drive or an USB stick here right now :(
[18:46] <jmgk> Anyone here use Irssi?
[18:46] <rt_91> can any one tell how to kill keepalive connections via command line in ubuntu specific to http requests
[18:47] <tozen> Sven_vB: thinks a cable is plugged? do you mean a fake? no i need to see that system is network connected, really through eth0 as example (sorry about my eng, pal)
[18:47] <Beldar> Gblue, use a vm
[18:47] <zykotick9> !anyone | jmgk sever people i'm sure!
[18:47] <jmgk> !poll
[18:47] <rt_91> how to kill keepalive connections via command line in ubuntu specific to http requests
[18:48] <Hounddog> uih install finished... lets see... if i am not back in a few il be hanging myself
[18:48] <nooblinux> Thank you somuch trism
[18:48] <jmgk> For IRssi. How would I set channels to auto join?
[18:48] <nooblinux> Thank you a lot.
[18:48] <nooblinux> It worked Trism
[18:48] <trism> nooblinux: excellent
[18:48] <Pici> jmgk: Look at the help on irssi.org and if you have further questions ask in #irssi
[18:48] <Sven_vB> tozen, is it enough if eth0 reports a cable being connected, or do you want to test more intensely, whether behind that cable there is a peer, or even further, if you can reach your DGW through that cable in eth0?
[18:48] <jmgk> ok
[18:48] <Pici> jmgk: theres a good 'getting started' guide on there that explains how to do that.
[18:49] <zykotick9> Pici: +1
[18:49] <jmgk> awesome
[18:49] <tozen> Sven_vB: honestly i can use just <ifconfig> there is everything about connections but want smth less informative
[18:49] <jmgk> I smashed my mouse so yeah
[18:49] <jmgk> anyhow
[18:49] <jmgk> ok
[18:49] <Sven_vB> tozen, if you know which of the info of ifconfig you're interested in, man grep
[18:50] <tozen> Sven_vB: o!!! good idea about grep, thx!
[18:50] <Hounddog_> uhm
[18:50] <Sven_vB> tozen, it even has -q, so it only reports a return value ;)
[18:51] <Hounddog_> canot send to channel ubuntu? no one can read me?
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> Hounddog_  we read you
[18:51] <tozen> Sven_vB: goooood!!! chears!
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog_: i see you
[18:51] <Beldar> Hounddog_, la,la, la I can't hear you. ;)
[18:52] <Hounddog_> ok... interesting... i finished installing ubuntu, restarted as suggest and never saw any grub and am in windows...
[18:52] <nooblinux> One more thing though
[18:52] <Sven_vB> tozen, yw
[18:52] <nooblinux> How do you get nslookup to work?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> nooblinux: nslookup hostname
[18:52] <nashant> Hey, my grub install has stopped booting automatically since I had to reinstall it. I've got GRUB_DEFAULT="0" and GRUB_TIMEOUT="10" but no timeout shows and I have to manually select a boot option
[18:52] <nooblinux> I am on a laptop running ubuntu desktop 13.10
[18:52] <nooblinux> when I type nslookup it says nothing
[18:52] <runningdog415> has anyone gotten an ATI TVWonder to work?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> nooblinux: well, what do you want to nslookup?
[18:52] <Beldar> nashant, Have you run sudo update-grub
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> nooblinux: its like typing 'ping' on it's own, makes no sense
[18:53] <Hounddog_> so i guess i should propably go into live cd again and do some grub repair
[18:53] <nooblinux> Like it should give me the nameserver of my ISP
[18:53] <zykotick9> nashant: did you run "sudo update-grub" after making those changes?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> nooblinux: no
[18:53] <nashant> Beldar, zykotick9: yup, done. I haven't changed it though.
[18:53] <Beldar> nashant, Dualboot?
[18:53] <jmgk> ./query nashant
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> nooblinux: if you want your nameserver, run:   nm-cli | less
[18:53] <jmgk> hm
[18:53] <jmgk> hm
[18:53] <zykotick9> nashant: do you have more then one gnu/linux distro installed?
[18:53] <nooblinux> ok
[18:54] <jmgk> Hi zykotick9  Do you prefer GNOme vs KDE?
[18:54] <nashant> Beldar, zykotick9: nope. Just xubuntu 13.10
[18:54] <jmgk> I cant seem to get it working on 13.10?
[18:54] <jmgk> GNOMe that is
[18:54] <nashant> jmgk: ?
[18:54] <zykotick9> jmgk: lol - i don't use either...  pick which one YOU like!
[18:54] <jmgk> Hi nashant
[18:54] <jmgk> ah ::PPP
[18:54] <jmgk> nashant:  Im Indian too :P
[18:54] <jmgk> anyhow
[18:54] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <jmgk> Im going to give IRssi a try and see how it looks like in Termianl with the new theme
[18:54] <jmgk> :)
[18:55] <Beldar> jmgk, Notice the bots info on using enter as punctuation, ;)
[18:55] <jmgk> oh sorry Beldar  I didn't mean to type like that :P
[18:55] <Beldar> ;)
[18:55] <nooblinux> So what is the purpose of nslookup?
[18:56] <nashant> is there a way I can list my grub entries to make sure it's trying to boot the correct one?
[18:56] <davidrsmorris> Hi, I'm thinking of grabbing Unity HUD functionality to add into AwesomeWM.  Does anyone here know how it works?  I started looking at the Bazaar trunk and I'm having difficulty parsing it.
[18:56] <ezra-s> nashant, afaik grub always try to use the latest kernel
[18:56] <Beldar> nashant, Any other old installs lingering in the HD not completely removed?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> nooblinux  from the man page: " nslookup - query Internet name servers interactively"
[18:57] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: that's NOT gonna work (OR be VERY difficult) i imagine...  Unity uses compiz, awesome is an alternative WM...  good luck.  (combining unity + awesome, now i've seen everything!)
[18:58] <Beldar> nashant, Can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[18:58] <zykotick9> Beldar: if gpt partition table is used, asking for "sudo parted -l" might give more real details...
[18:59] <davidrsmorris> zykotick9: I was thinking of figuring out how it scrapes menus, and running that library outside of Compiz... and then using a very minimal interface a la Menubar to deal with the information.
[18:59] <eer> How can I create a password protected zip file on Kubuntu using the GUI?
[18:59] <Beldar> zykotick9, true, that pesky gpt. ;)
[18:59] <zykotick9> davidrsmorris: best of luck!  i'd have NO idea where to begin!  but, i forsee an UP HILL BATTLE
[19:01] <nooblinux> ok
[19:03] <runningdog415> last try any one know how to get a ATI TV Wonder to work with13.10??
[19:04] <ezra-s> eer, good question, you may laugh at me but if you have wine installed you could use 7zip much better for gui, ark which is afaik the default option is not very complex and I don't see the option for that
[19:04] <ezra-s> from command line there are many choices though
[19:04] <Danato> whats the command to check my ethernet adapter? is it something with lscpi?
[19:04] <ezra-s> Danato, lspci | grep -i ethernet
[19:05] <ezra-s> that will tell you which ethernet adapters you have
[19:05] <Danato> thanks ezra-s
[19:05] <zykotick9> Danato: you might want to check "lspci | grep -i net" as well... if it's not in ethernet
[19:07] <Danato> zykotick9: I jst wanted the ethernet adapter, but thanks, that made me understand the command :)
[19:07] <TomyWork> hi. what's the (source or binary) package that contains pam_unix?
[19:07] <zykotick9> Danato: fyi, the -i to grep means case insenstive (iMpOrTaNt)
[19:07] <TomyWork> libpam-modules?
[19:08] <Danato> zykotick9: that i already knew
[19:08] <nashant> Beldar: No other old installs, grub is installed to /dev/sda1 (/boot partition) /root is in /dev/mapper/server-root. I had to run boot-repair from a chroot in a live usb because I had bits of an old kernel laying around, and for somereason was booting into it. So removed the kernel, ran update-grub and it only gave me memtest, hence boot-repair. But now it won't auto boot
[19:09] <Beldar> nashant, Did you save the bootinfo summary from boot repiar?
[19:09] <nashant> Beldar: no. oops.
[19:10] <Beldar> nashant, grub can be purge and reloaded quite easily to just have a fresh setup.
[19:10] <zykotick9> nashant: (i can't really help) but having grub on sda1 (the partition) is "weak" compared to the MBR = sda.... just saying
[19:11] <Beldar> +1
[19:11] <tozen> Sven_vB: r u here?
[19:11] <nashant> so purge grub and reinstall to sda?
[19:11] <Sven_vB> tozen, yes
[19:12] <Beldar> nashant, you have kernels in sda1, not sure on moving it myself.
[19:12] <nashant> kernels in sda1?
[19:12] <tozen> Sven_vB: i found nmcli nm and nmcli dev this is what i needed but anyway thx, pal!
[19:12] <tripelb2> I want my PANEL ICON back please help me. -- 12.04 Gnome-classic:that windshieldwipertrace shaped thing that gets parellel lines on in when I am connected to a network, ie the connectivity-icon in the PANEL has vanished and I want it back, please.
[19:13] <Beldar> nashant, No one suggested, " so purge grub and reinstall to sda?" there were two different comments is all.
[19:14] <Sven_vB> tozen, ye
[19:14] <nashant> Beldar: if I purge grub and reinstall it will ask me to select the device to install to anyway, no?
[19:14] <tripelb2> How can I tell when my wifi is connected and to which network. It used to be on the panel.. now I am searching in the menus. 12.04,gnomeclassic.
[19:14] <Sven_vB> tozen, yw*
[19:14] <tozen> yw* ???
[19:14] <nashant> Beldar: oh. I thought by the "weak" comment that's what I should do
[19:14] <Beldar> nashant, I have never used a partition for boot so not my area to ask on converting is all.
[19:14] <glitsj16> tripelb2: never used gnome-classic, but you can try nm-applet
[19:14] <Sven_vB> tozen, you're welcome. ;) i just mistypted the acronym the first time.
[19:15] <tozen> Sven_vB: ok
[19:15] <xangua> tripelb2: do you have netgorl-manager-gnome installed¿ or it was gnome-network-manager
[19:15] <zykotick9> tripelb2: does running "nm-applet" bring it up?  or is the whole notification area missing?
[19:16] <nashant> Beldar: fair enough. But you reckon a reinstall is the place to start? Not necessarily to sda, but to sda1
[19:17] <Beldar> nashant, sudo apt-get purge grub-common grub-pc && sudo apt-get install grub  and choose sda1 when asked where
[19:18] <nashant> Beldar: yeah, I'll give it a go
[19:18] <zykotick9> Beldar: do what you want - but seriously, i'd suggest using the MBR sda - why to partition sda1?
[19:19] <Beldar> nashant, You will have a new /etc/default/grub
[19:19] <Beldar> zykotick9, I am not sure on how to move that to the mbr with kernels in sda1, I stated that.
[19:19] <zykotick9> Beldar: sorry, wrong person!
[19:19] <Beldar> hehe
[19:22] <nashant> Beldar: aren't the kernels located out of /boot anyway?
[19:23] <Beldar> nashant, Yes on a mbr setup, not sure with sda1 as a boot, we see people here filling up their boot with to many kernels almost daily.
[19:23] <Beldar> boot partitions that is
[19:24] <zykotick9> nashant: grub has 2 parts, the files are stored on a filesystem, and there is a boot part - which you're currently trying to put in the wrong place sda1, when you should be putting it on sda = the MBR of the drive.  [it's VERY rare you want to use a PBR instead of the MBR]
[19:25] <nashant> I'll try sticking it on sda
[19:25] <nashant> if it goes wrong, I can always live usb and chroot again
[19:25] <Beldar> nashant, I think the boot file is in sda1 not in root is the issue.
[19:25] <D4CH_RPi> yay! installed ubuntu on my laptop.. now I need to learn more linux
[19:27] <Beldar> !yay | D4CH_RPi
[19:27] <tripelb2> zykotick9, I will try.
[19:27] <D4CH_RPi> ;)
[19:28] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, back it up before you break it, if your like the rest of us who tended to do that at the start. ;)
[19:28] <tripelb2> zykotick9, I will try.-- says applet now removed from the notification menu. but it is back. Thanks.
[19:28] <D4CH_RPi> Beldar: back it up how
[19:29] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, I'm a fan of cloning for easy just slipping it back in, but I store very little in the OS
[19:29] <D4CH_RPi> ah yeah okay, I keep important stuff on network drives or usb hdds
[19:30] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, I use clonezilla, but there are built in backups, I have never used them so not sure of there use, keeping track of what you do is good.
[19:32] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, Heh, my ego does not allow me to ask for help, so I clone, however I rarely have a problem, been years really.
[19:33] <D4CH_RPi> haha
[19:33] <D4CH_RPi> if i break something i just reinstall
[19:33] <Okitain> Does anyone know a good video/voice jabber app for Android?
[19:34] <Okitain> ('cept for the upcoming Jitsi, of course)
[19:34] <Beldar> D4CH_RPi, I save package lists and any extra repos and keys for reinstalls as well, I like to getter done.
[19:34] <m1sf1t> Hi, just switched my other computer on, which runs ubuntu, and my screen resolution isn't supported! :(
[19:35] <IronMaiden> hi
[19:35] <m1sf1t> it was working absolutely fine yesterday
[19:35] <IronMaiden> anyone installed cuda before
[19:35] <IronMaiden> ?
[19:35] <Beldar> m1sf1t, Proprietary graphic driver?
[19:36] <Beldar> !find cuda
[19:36] <Beldar> IronMaiden, State the issues for help to the channel.
[19:36] <m1sf1t> hmm, i couldn't even tell you what graphics card it has, it was given to me a few days ago with vista on it
[19:37] <Beldar> m1sf1t, When  you installed ubuntu did you load a graphic driver?
[19:37] <IronMaiden> i have a program which uses cuda to run how do I install that?
[19:37] <Rose> Hello xD
[19:37] <Beldar> !cuda
[19:37] <m1sf1t> yeah, I installed an nvidia driver
[19:37] <Beldar> m1sf1t, From where?
[19:38] <m1sf1t> i couldn't tell you the exact model though, unless you know of a command that lists the device name of my graphics?
[19:38] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, you don't have the nvidia utility to check that yourself?
[19:38] <m1sf1t> it was automatic, it just updated it with nvidia drivers
[19:39] <m1sf1t> not that i know of :(
[19:39] <ezra-s> in unity start typing nvidia
[19:39] <IronMaiden> I found this but I dont really know what to do with it https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads
[19:39] <ezra-s> nvidia tool will show up if you have nvidia installed
[19:39] <m1sf1t> ok just a second :)
[19:39] <Beldar> m1sf1t, My questions are related to using the drivers straight from nvidia IE proprietary, they will not follow a kernel upgrade.
[19:39] <ezra-s> IronMaiden if you don't know what to do with it why are you trying to do something with it?
[19:39] <m1sf1t> i've had to load a live cd, in order to even see anything on screen
[19:40] <PresidentObama31> Hi folks.
[19:40] <Beldar> Heh the prez
[19:40] <IronMaiden> ezra one of the programs I want to run requires cuda
[19:40] <PresidentObama31> Hi Beldar.
[19:40]  * Beldar Salutes
[19:40] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, which graphics card do you use?
[19:41] <PresidentObama31> Sargent now?
[19:41] <Beldar> PresidentObama31, Nah half pinhead half conehead. ;)
[19:41] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, /usr/lib/nvidia-settings/bin/nvidia-settings
[19:41] <IronMaiden> ezra-s i don't have a graphics card its a laptop
[19:41] <m1sf1t> thanks, i'll have a look now
[19:42] <Beldar> IronMaiden, server?
[19:42] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, every pc has a graphics card otherwise you would see nothing in the monitor
[19:42] <m1sf1t> i'll get back to you in a sec, live cd is kinda slow
[19:42] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, don't try to scape! :P
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> IronMaiden  try    lspci|grep VGA
[19:42] <IronMaiden> ezra-s its a thinkpad w530
[19:42] <m1sf1t> haha xD
[19:42] <maujhsn> zykotick9 Hi How are you? What is the recommended wait time to ping this ubuntu mirror? 127.0.0.1 localhost!
[19:43] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, do what MonkeyDust has asked you
[19:44] <IronMaiden> in the terminal?
[19:44] <IronMaiden> it says 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [Quadro K2000M] (rev a1)
[19:44] <Sven_vB> IronMaiden, yes, a terminal would be helpful to see the output
[19:44] <m1sf1t> ok, i'm in NVIDIA X Server settings
[19:44] <Sven_vB> gratz, you found your graphics card :)
[19:45] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, check the nvidia site to see if that graphics card of yours has cuda cores
[19:45] <ezra-s> Quadro K2000M
[19:45] <ezra-s> cuda is a piece of hardware afaik in nvidia cards
[19:45] <jorman> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[19:45] <jorman> Version 3.7.86
[19:45] <jorman> By  U D A ' S o f t w a r e
[19:46] <ezra-s> I'm no expert
[19:47] <maujhsn> What is the recommended wait time to ping this ubuntu mirror? 127.0.0.1 localhost!
[19:48] <IronMaiden> maujhsn 127.0.0.1 is an IP address that means "the computer you are currently on"
[19:48] <IronMaiden> so it is not an ubuntu mirror!
[19:48] <m1sf1t> is there a way to change the screen resolution ubuntu boots into from a live cd?
[19:48] <gordonjcp> jorman: did you have an Ubuntu support question?
[19:48] <m1sf1t> meaning the screen resolution that my installed ubuntu boots into, not what the cd boots into :)
[19:49] <maujhsn> Ironmaiden...Duuhhh Thanks!
[19:49] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, nvidia settings tool can
[19:49] <IronMaiden> ezra-s it says 384 cuda cores
[19:50] <m1sf1t> i have that open atm, but the settings availbale are just things like "enable tooltips" and "display status bar"
[19:50] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, so now that we've checked that you have what you need. Now you need to check the software that requires it and the instructions it tells you
[19:51] <IronMaiden> ezra-s it is cudahashcat+
[19:51] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, that's not #ubuntu :P
[19:51] <IronMaiden> ezra-s what do you mean?
[19:51] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, check if there is an #nvidia channel or for documentation for that
[19:51] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, i don't know anything about it sorry
[19:51] <IronMaiden> i am on ubuntu
[19:52] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, is it an ubuntu tool?
[19:52] <marko> good evening
[19:52] <ezra-s> no
[19:52] <maujhsn> IronMaiden The same would be true for this one as well right? "127.0.1.1 ubuntu"!
[19:52] <IronMaiden> i just need to know how to install cuda
[19:53] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit"
[19:53] <IronMaiden> maujhsn that isnt an ubuntu mirror, where are you getting these?
[19:54] <maujhsn> IronMaiden, /etc/hosts
[19:54] <m1sf1t> IronMaiden, might seem like a daft question, but have you tried apt-cache search cuda, followed by sudo apt-get install *relevant search result here*
[19:54] <IronMaiden> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed:   amd-opencl-icd dkms glx-alternative-mesa glx-alternative-nvidia glx-diversions libcublas4 libcuda1 libcudart4 libcufft4 libcuinj4 libcurand4 libcusparse4 libgl1-nvidia-alternatives libgl1-nvidia-glx   libglx-nvidia-alternatives libnpp4 libnvidia-ml1 libthrust-dev libvdpau-dev libvdpau1 l
[19:54] <marko> greetings from elementary os
[19:54] <ezra-s> maujhsn, don't confuse him more
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> marko  not supported here
[19:54] <marko> i know
[19:55] <IronMaiden> no ezra-s i was telling him something read up
[19:55] <ezra-s> sorry I come and go
[19:55] <IronMaiden> 1 sec
[19:55] <maujhsn> ezra-s "That's not my intention...seriously!"
[19:56]  * ezra-s looks at maujhsn ... :P
[19:56] <m1sf1t> quick question, is there an irc command to not show who joins/leaves the channel? it's hard to read the chat lol
[19:56] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, I don't think it is a command, more like a client option
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> m1sf1t  depends on your client
[19:56] <Beldar> m1sf1t, if you have a gui client usually in preferences.
[19:56] <nacirema> you should be able to turn off joins/parts in your client settings
[19:57] <m1sf1t> hmm, im using irssi cli
[19:57] <maujhsn> ezra-s,  See what you did...you gave the poor guy an overload!
[19:57] <m1sf1t> ill google it ;)
[19:57] <m1sf1t> thanks anyway
[19:57] <nashant> Beldar: I just reinstalled grub with boot-repair and now I'm stuck at grub cli. bootinfo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6460212/
[19:57] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, good luck
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> m1sf1t  what do you use for irc?
[19:57] <ezra-s> maujhsn, we're trying to help, aren't we
[19:57] <m1sf1t> MonkeyDust: irssi
[19:58] <maujhsn> lol
[19:58] <ezra-s> probably installing that is what he needs
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> m1sf1t  me too, it's   /ignore #ubuntu +joins +quits +modes +parts +nicks
[19:58] <PresidentObama31> Where in Africa is Ubuntu from?
[19:58] <ezra-s> libcuda1 and others in the list
[19:59] <Beldar> nashant, LVM Raid GPT?
[19:59] <m1sf1t> thanks MonkeyDust
[19:59] <ezra-s> MonkeyDust, do you know an equivalent for hexchat by any chance? :)
[19:59] <nashant> Beldar: LVM and GPT
[20:00] <m1sf1t> Miles better :) i can follow the conversation properly now xD
[20:00] <Beldar> nashant, I know nothing about either.
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> ezra-s  no, i'm a one trick pony ;)
[20:00] <ezra-s> MonkeyDust, lol, that's fine
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> ezra-s  that was a joke, but no, i don't know
[20:00] <ezra-s> ;)
[20:00] <PresidentObama31> Southern Africa (South Africa and Zimbabwe),
[20:01] <m1sf1t> I'm just gonna nuke and pave my installation, everything's saved to NAS anyway :)
[20:01] <IronMaiden> thank you ezra-s and anyone else who helped i have it working now :)
[20:01] <ezra-s> m1sf1t, drop it! don't be shy!
[20:01] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, glad to be of help ;)
[20:02] <ezra-s> maujhsn, see? it works now
[20:02] <Beldar> nashant, So you loaded grub to sda right without moving the boot to root I assume?
[20:03] <IronMaiden> if I stay in here all the time will I learn ubuntu by osmosis?
[20:03] <Beldar> nashant, Just a guess on what should be done.
[20:03] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, chances are you might even end up helping someone ;)
[20:03] <IronMaiden> ezra-s well I can already help someone install cuda!
[20:04] <m1sf1t> haha i will do :) it's only been installed a few days so there's nothing to lose :)
[20:04] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, for example :D
[20:04] <maujhsn> IronMaiden,  NO!
[20:04]  * ezra-s slaps maujhsn 
[20:04] <maujhsn> Ouch!
[20:05] <IronMaiden> maujhsn I think not knowing what localhost is, is worse than not knowing how to install cuda so.
[20:05] <ezra-s> be nice to newcomers
[20:05] <ezra-s> IronMaiden, nobody was born knowing
[20:05] <maujhsn> Duuuhhh!
[20:05] <IronMaiden> i know I wasnt being entirely serious and neither was maujhsn probably
[20:06] <ezra-s> :P
[20:06] <m1sf1t> localhost is the ip address of your own computer :) so if you were to connect to localhost, the computer would be communicating with itself :)
[20:06] <m1sf1t> so if i was on googles server, and i typed in http://localhost/ it would load google
[20:06] <Beldar> PresidentObama31, not a channel issue this is support but ubuntu is a african social construct
[20:07] <ezra-s> localhost is usually associated with loopback address
[20:07] <maujhsn> mlsfit I don't mind adding a little humor to this room...seriously!
[20:08] <Rory> It depends how quiet it is and how many people are screaming for help at the time
[20:08] <Beldar> can we go lightly on off topic or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic this is support
[20:08] <m1sf1t> haha :)
[20:08] <ezra-s> I new it was coming
[20:08] <ezra-s> k
[20:08] <maujhsn> IronMaiden,  How do i solve this: "W: Duplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release amd64 (20130820.1)/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%2012.04.3%20LTS%20%5fPrecise%20Pangolin%5f%20-%20Release%20amd64%20(20130820.1)_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)"!
[20:09] <IronMaiden> maujhsn i have literally no idea where to start looking
[20:09] <m1sf1t> I have 1.9GB RAM... and 2.6GHz dual core AMD. should i risk 64bit install or do you reckon it's not worth the hassle?
[20:10] <Rory> Risk? Hassle?
[20:10] <maujhsn> IronMaiden,  sudo apt-get update doesn't solve it!
[20:10] <bekks> m1sf1t: Unless you have 32bit CPU, you should use 64bit.
[20:10] <xangua> m1sf1t: 64bit is only worth if you have more than 4GB of ram
[20:10] <Rory> What is this, 2008? m1sf1t you'll be fine with 64
[20:10] <bekks> xangua: Thats nonsense, frankly.
[20:10] <m1sf1t> yeah, i've installed the 64 bit before and it was a pain haha
[20:10] <xangua> bekks: you are nonsense! frankly :P
[20:10] <musikusmasko> hi
[20:11] <randolph`> hi
[20:11] <bekks> xangua: And you are on ignore - personally. You started to get personally. Good bye.
[20:11] <jazzme> hello, I was wondering why Task Manager reports 100% cpu...when the only two processes in double digits is Firefox, 40 % and Task Manager 20% ?
[20:11] <m1sf1t> yeah i've read that you should have 2 or 3 gigs, and that 64 bit is only more efficient if you are doing lots of calculations
[20:11] <Rory> jazzme: what is 40 + 40 + 20 ?
[20:11] <Rory> Oh sorry jazzme I misread that
[20:12] <jazzme> no prob
[20:12] <Rory> jazzme: There is an option to show processes from all users; do things change when you use it?
[20:12] <jazzme> oh...let me see how to turn that on
[20:12] <Rory> jazzme: you can also use the "top" command in the Terminal
[20:12] <ionux> jazzme: there's got to be another process you aren't seeing.  open up a terminal and use the 'top' command.
[20:12] <nashant> Beldar: yup, that's what I did
[20:13] <bekks> m1sf1t: Having a 64bit CPU and using a 32bit OS is wasting 50% of the resources you have.
[20:13] <m1sf1t> have you tried switching it off and on again? haha :D
[20:13] <m1sf1t> good point bekks
[20:13] <Rory> bekks: Was that a serious statement?
[20:13] <bekks> Rory: Yes.
[20:13] <Rory> OK
[20:14] <bekks> Rory: Its like the ancient myth that free RAM is good RAM. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
[20:14] <Rory> bekks: Free RAm is *potential* to do stuff
[20:14] <m1sf1t> yeah, it's like having an empty desk
[20:14] <picca> Free RAM is usually used for buffering
[20:14] <bekks> Rory: Free RAM is unused and thus wasted.
[20:14] <jazzme> hmmm..what is Xorg?  30% cpu
[20:14] <Beldar> nashant, Well, I mentioned that so, probably fixable, you have to start researching what your doing rather then acting on instinct.
[20:15] <bekks> picca: free RAM is free RAM. Used RAM may be used by buffers.
[20:15] <TomyWork> jazzme, oh it's unimportant. just some thing that displays all the graphics on screen
[20:15] <m1sf1t> id rather have free ram than using loads of swap :)
[20:15] <Rory> jazzme: xorg is the display server which draws to the screen. Are you running Unity in 2d mode?
[20:15] <jazzme> not sure
[20:15] <bekks> m1sf1t: I'd rather have 100% RAM used and lower swappiness...
[20:15] <Rory> jazzme: What graphics hardware do you have? If you don't know, use the command: "lspci | grep VGA"
[20:16] <picca> bekks: yup, free ram is usually used for buffering
[20:16] <jazzme> unfortunately I have to leave...but will return in a while.
[20:16] <bekks> picca: yeah.
[20:16] <Rory> jazzme: No problem
[20:16] <Rory> I'll be here, it's Friday night where else would I be?
[20:16] <m1sf1t> bekks: aye :) but with free ram, wouldn't there be no need for swappiness?
[20:16] <bekks> m1sf1t: Swappiness is not what you think it is...
[20:17] <nashant> Beldar: booted to live usb and ran boot-repair, everything's working!
[20:17] <bekks> m1sf1t: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness
[20:17] <Rory> "swappiness" isn't a word you just made up m1sf1t it is a specific thing to do with how aggresive the kernel pages out
[20:17] <m1sf1t> bekks: have i got the wrong end of the stick lol?
[20:17] <m1sf1t> bekks: i thought that swappiness was like extra virtual ram for when there was no ram? am i wrong?
[20:18] <Rory> m1sf1t: That's just called "swap"
[20:18] <bekks> m1sf1t: You are wrong. I just gave you a link. :)
[20:18] <m1sf1t> just opening it now :)
[20:18] <Calinou> Rory, some games can cause xorg to use a lot of CPU
[20:18] <Calinou> or some buggy programs
[20:18] <Hassen> lmfao...can't finish one page of any IT book that I start reading..ffs
[20:18] <picca> i like what OS X is doing by compressing memory used by apps that are idle before swapping ... do you think Linux will do something similar
[20:18] <Beldar> nashant, Cool, so look into moving that boot partiton info if needed to have mbr boot if you want, I never use that tool but it does help many.
[20:18] <m1sf1t> there's a difference between swap and swappiness? i thought swap was short for swappiness lol
[20:19] <bekks> picca: Linux already has the ability to compress pages... :)
[20:19] <bekks> m1sf1t: There is.
[20:19] <picca> bekks: ah didn't realise that
[20:19] <Rory> picca: Yes, the next kernel 3.14 has a feature for almost exactly that, I read it on Phoronix this morning
[20:19] <bekks> 3.11 already had.
[20:19] <m1sf1t> bekks: brb just reading this wikipedia article
[20:19] <bekks> And the next kernel will be 3.13 ;)
[20:20] <Rory> bekks: 3.13 is out...?
[20:20] <bekks> Rory: Not according to www.kernel.org
[20:20] <Rory> bekks: Isn't it? or am I confused again.
[20:20] <bekks> Rory: The current kernel is 3.12.1
[20:20] <Rory> Oh that's right, it's League of Legends which is 3.13 (no seriously, that is the mistake I just made)
[20:21] <Rory> No that's 3.14 now as well. Oh i don't even know. Anyway kernel 3.14 has some kind of cool compressed memory feature
[20:21] <TomyWork> i'm having trouble with pam. something is overwriting my password with "INCORRECT". any ideas?
[20:23] <m1sf1t> bekks: i'm still struggling to understand swappiness lol, i'll be sure to read up on it
[20:23] <BluesKaj> bekks. what setting do recommend for swappiness on systen with 3gRAM and dual core cpu ?
[20:23] <SBoudrias> Hey, I'm trying to install a newer version of Nginx. Everything goes well, apt-get report installing and setting the good version without error. But after the process, runnning nginx -v still report the old version... Any idea what is going on?
[20:23] <m1sf1t> anyone care to define swappiness suitable for the layman?
[20:23] <bekks> m1sf1t: swappiness defines the urge to swap. If set to 0, swap will be used only to keep the system alive. Set to 100, its like "swap as you can" :)
[20:24] <randolph`> SBoudrias: have you tried restarting nginx?
[20:24] <SBoudrias> randolph`: Yeah, multiple times
[20:24] <maokaii> is it possible to install wine on the live boot of ubuntu 12.04?
[20:24] <maokaii> "try" not install
[20:24] <m1sf1t> bekks: so when it does swap, i presume it's swapping the least important or oldest memory? so that the more frequently used stuff is more readily available?
[20:25] <bekks> m1sf1t: So you get the most benefit when almost all your RAM is used, for applications, for buffers, etc. and you system will only swap to keep the system alive.
[20:25] <SBoudrias> randolph`: running "service nginx restart" - right?
[20:25] <bekks> m1sf1t: Correct.
[20:25] <randolph`> yeah
[20:25] <m1sf1t> bekks: that makes more sense now :D thanks very much!
[20:25] <randolph`> Are you sure it restarted?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> bekks. default seems to be 60 , is that an arbitrary value for all installs or is it set by the API / Hardware detection ?
[20:26] <hydruid> randolph`: read that as retarded lol
[20:26] <SBoudrias> randolph`: it reported me "Restarting nginx: nginx."
[20:26] <bekks> BluesKaj: It the default defined in the kernel when no other value is set.
[20:26] <randolph`> hmm, im not sure, i don't really use nginx myself, sorry
[20:26] <Rory> BluesKaj: It's also a perfectly sensible value. I'm of the opinion of stuff like swappiness, that if you needed to change it, you'd already know what you need to change it to
[20:27] <SBoudrias> randolph`: I'll try restarting the server
[20:27] <randolph`> ok
[20:27] <SBoudrias> randolph`: Haven't worked
[20:27] <Rory> Also that old adage of what to do when things aint broke
[20:27] <m1sf1t> bekks: so before, you mentioned that there is a difference between swap and swappiness. is swap the partition that this data is stored on, and swappiness the feature that controls RAM?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> Rory. yes I suppose since , I've rarely seen it used in system monitor on this pc
[20:28] <maokaii> m1sf1t: I read your guide http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ for multiboot on a usb, this will help me install ubuntu to a usb drive?
[20:28] <bekks> m1sf1t: swap space is where you memory swaps to :)
[20:29] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i didn't write that :)
[20:29] <Beldar> maokaii, full install or loading  ISO?
[20:29] <bekks> m1sf1t: And swappiness controls how fast you memory will swap to the swap space.
[20:29] <m1sf1t> bekks: gotcha :) the more you know ;)
[20:29] <SBoudrias> randolph`: I tried uninstalling nginx with apt-get, seems to have removed the new installation, not the old one...
[20:30] <SBoudrias> randolph`: Is it possible there's two version installed and the old one is taking precedence
[20:30] <maokaii> Beldar: I was told I need to "install" ubuntu in order to install wine, instead of "try" so I guess full install but I'd like it to be on a usb flash drive
[20:30] <m1sf1t> maokaii: install unetbootin, you can choose from a drop down box of OSs put on a bootable usb, or select your own .iso
[20:31] <Beldar> maokaii, You need an install medium a dvd/cd/usb to install to the usb, a usb flash is not the better option than an internal HD though.
[20:31] <xangua> maokaii: you mean to use the live iso on a usb stick or make a full install on a usb stick¿ with multiboot you can either just load the iso or make a persistent install
[20:32] <mguy> Who decided to enable sticky edges on displays by default
[20:32] <maokaii> xangua: I want to do a full install on a usb stick , its crazy I know but its the best option for me right now
[20:32] <mguy> Almost always makes me think my mouse is screwey
[20:32] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i agree with Beldar, a HD is much faster than a USB stick, but USB sticks are definately better for portability
[20:32] <creek> Hai!
[20:32] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  yes I need the portability
[20:33] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  especially because I think my hdd is screwed
[20:33] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i'd install unetbootin, you can get it on apt-get. it makes life so much easier :)
[20:33] <m1sf1t> maokaii: have you run any scans on your HD?
[20:34] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  not yet trying to install all of ubuntu on a flash drive first
[20:34] <maokaii> m1sf1t: alright so ill do sudo apt-get install unetbootin ?
[20:34] <mguy> It's just another disk really
[20:35] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i see. Yeah use that command. note: it runs in X, not cli (as far as i know)
[20:35] <shroomduke> lsb_release -a gives me "core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:..." what is all this info?
[20:35] <maokaii> m1sf1t:  no idea what you mean by X and not cli :p
[20:36] <m1sf1t> maokaii: it uses the graphical interface, point and click :) not in a shell, or cmomand line interface
[20:36] <xangua> m1sf1t: maokaii unetbootin will just load the live iso in the usb, but there are several guides to make a persisten install to a usb stick; you can use multisystem for example http://i.imgur.com/38dwkQ1.png
[20:36] <hydruid> m1sf1t: what is the mystical graphical interface you speak of
[20:37] <picca> lol @ hydruid
[20:38] <xangua> multisystem also doesn't need you to format the usb stick m1sf1t maokaii
[20:38] <maokaii> xangua: would you mind helping me run through that to get it setup on a usb?
[20:38] <Rory> hydruid: He means like ncurses but even shinier
[20:38] <m1sf1t> hydruid: for example in windows, you have a start menu, different windows and stuff, that's a graphical user interface, or GUI for short. And a command line interface is just text on a screen where you type commands and press enter :)
[20:38] <hydruid> Rory: wow......
[20:38] <xangua> maokaii: as you read in the guide about multisystem you just have to run the script
[20:38] <Beldar> xangua, multisystem does and it is picky on its fat32 partitioning.
[20:38] <hydruid> m1sf1t: LOL yes I kknow.....it's Friday and I was being funny
[20:39] <picca> it's all too clever for me
[20:39] <shroomduke> command line interface = terminal
[20:39] <maokaii> xangua: yes but how do I do the process to install ubuntu onto the usb
[20:39] <maokaii> xangua:  not just a live boot
[20:39] <m1sf1t> hydruid: haha oh right :) you never know! some people don't know these things :D
[20:39] <hydruid> m1sf1t: True that!
[20:39] <xangua> Beldar: really¿ well I just format to fat32 anyways for windows
[20:40] <hydruid> I think some people don't know what Google is either
[20:40] <Rory> maokaii: There's info on a persistent USb install here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[20:40] <picca> what is this Google you speak of
[20:40] <m1sf1t> hydruid: Friday though... on the vodka tonight! (don't judge, i'm english, it's in our nature)
[20:40] <Rory> picca: It's like AlterVista but with a catchier name so it stuck around longer
[20:40] <hydruid> picca: it's a special place you put in questions and you can find the answers!
[20:40] <xangua> maokaii: really¿ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Drag-and-Drop-ISO.png
[20:41] <picca> Rory: now that takes me back
[20:41] <urielvigilant> how to play a normal comercial DVD ? Iám with Lubuntu 13.10 and i have Lubuntu restricted extras and also i actually installed VLC, but i dont know what to do to play the DVD , how to ?
[20:41] <shroomduke> Google is the god of internet search
[20:41] <picca> hydruid: must try it
[20:41] <shroomduke> do not anger the Google
[20:41] <maokaii> xangua:  what :p
[20:41] <Rory> urielvigilant: Do you get an error when you try to play the DVD in VLC?
[20:41] <xangua> maokaii: drag and drop... ;)
[20:41] <hydruid> urielvigilant: Open VLC and tell it to open the DVD
[20:41] <Beldar> xangua, yeah me to, I just found it to really only be happy with a gparted or windows made fat, the disks made are not seen, not sure if a cli made is fine for it.
[20:41] <maokaii> xangua:  I thought that was for only a live boot
[20:41] <picca> time to try google brb
[20:41] <urielvigilant> Rory, i dont know what file to open on the DVD
[20:41] <m1sf1t> maokaii: i think just putting the ubuntu iso onto a usb would work fine, as any installs etc. would be saved to the stick? forgive me if i'm wrong :)
[20:42] <Rory> urielvigilant: Go to VLC then media -> open disk
[20:42] <Rory> urielvigilant: Or when you insert the DVD now you have the restricted-extras installed, you should get some sort of popup asking what you want to do (maybe, I don't know how it is in Lubuntu)
[20:43] <xangua> maokaii: and then I pasted an image of my desktop where you can see a button to make it a persistent install (persistente) multyboot really makes all the job for you but you can also follow the persisten install wiki if you want to learn :)
[20:43] <Beldar> m1sf1t, a ISO Load with a persistent has some limitations, the persistent can't be cleaned, and in the end it is reading the ISO, some limitations on what extras can really be installed
[20:44] <m1sf1t> xangua: that could work, load a live CD, then install to usb?
[20:44] <urielvigilant> Rory: open a window with errors ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6460495/
[20:44] <maokaii> xangua: maybe in the future ill learn but the multiboot seems like my friend right now :p
[20:44] <m1sf1t> Beldar: ahh, fair enough :) i've never done that before
[20:45] <hydruid> !French | urielvigilant
[20:45] <Rory> !italian | actually hydruid
[20:45] <hydruid> !Wrong-Person | Rory
[20:45] <Rory> urielvigilant: That is an error reading from the disk drive. Do you have any problems reading other DVDs?
[20:45] <Beldar> m1sf1t, Interesting thing about a persistent is that you can have a big usb and make an extra partition that is persistent way bigger than the 4 gig offered in the usb installers,
[20:46] <xangua> actually portuguese Rory hydruid
[20:46] <hydruid> xangua: Rory: actually chinese
[20:46] <Rory> Oh well we all are awful at identifying languages
[20:46] <m1sf1t> Beldar: what do you mean by persistent? am iso image?
[20:46] <geekmasterflash> Rory: Does that bot have Klingon?
[20:46] <urielvigilant> ROry:  another problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/6460517/
[20:46] <Rory> urielvigilant: If you have another DVD to try with, see if it gives the same error
[20:47] <Rory> geekmasterflash: No because there's no Klingon-localised Ubuntu support channel.
[20:47] <urielvigilant> ROry , ok i will try with another .
[20:47] <geekmasterflash> Rory: Tragic.
[20:47] <Beldar> m1sf1t, he persistent called a casper-rw allows you to add things to a ISO loaded usb and reboot and have it saved.
[20:47] <Beldar> the*
[20:47] <hydruid> !Klingon | Rory
[20:48] <maokaii> xangua: okay, using the guide I gave awhile ago. I install multiboot, then I download the desired ubuntu version from ubuntu.com I plug in another usb flash drive that I want to have the install of ubuntu on, I choose it, and then I move the ISO i downloaded from ubuntu onto it and choose persistant?
[20:49] <m1sf1t> Beldar: ahh ok :)
[20:49] <Crisis_> unable to contact kded anyone have any ideas
[20:50] <Rory> !details | Crisis_
[20:50] <xangua> maokaii: yes, easy peasy
[20:50] <xangua> Crisis_: about what¿
[20:50] <maokaii> xangua:  then I restart my system, and boot from the one its installed on probably?
[20:50] <Crisis_> \leave
[20:51] <m1sf1t> cya Crisis :)
[20:51] <geekmasterflash> Crisis_: http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/troubleshooting-kded4-bugs/
[20:52] <urielvigilant> I can  play asimply original DVD movie on my Lubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <urielvigilant> I can  play asimply original DVD movie on my Lubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <urielvigilant> I can not   play asimply original DVD movie on my Lubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <xangua> maokaii: you also need at least 4BG free space for a persistent install minimun
[20:53] <Beldar> urielvigilant, You install the lubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:53] <maokaii> xangua:  yeah its 32 gb :)
[20:53] <xangua> !dvd | urielvigilant did you install the script mentioned here¿
[20:53] <urielvigilant> Beldar , yes i did !
[20:53] <Rory> urielvigilant: Try this: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:53] <Beldar> urielvigilant, take a look at the bots dvd info, some dvd's have problems in the end though so be aware of this.
[20:54] <m1sf1t> Nuke and pave complete :)
[20:54] <Rory> m1sf1t: Now you just need to do the holy trinity of Ubuntu usability enhancements: Full-hinting font smoothing, disable edge-snapping, and shrink the dock
[20:55] <jubale> Anyone know a good software for converting having computer type what I say for me?
[20:56] <Beldar> jubale, Can you say that in a way that makes sense.
[20:56] <m1sf1t> Rory: yepp :)
[20:56] <m1sf1t> juabale: do you mean text to speech?
[20:56] <jubale> Speak into microphone, software does the typing for you.
[20:56] <Beldar> ah text to speech doh
[20:56] <m1sf1t> jubale: oh, the other way around haha
[20:56] <jubale> No, speech to text.
[20:57] <lmat> I am creating a script that should be run by cron now and then. Where should I put it and its configuration ?
[20:57] <m1sf1t> jubale: a bit like siri on iphone?
[20:57] <lmat> ~ doesn't seem like the right place because it's ... computer-wide
[20:57] <jubale> Maybe, I've never had an iPhone.
[20:58] <m1sf1t> jubale: me neither lol, android ftw :D
[20:58] <tozen> guys is it possible to reinstall unity using livecd without network?
[20:58] <m1sf1t> jubvale: this isn't really the relevant place to ask, but i'd just google speech to text :)
[20:58] <jubale> I've a friend who got Windows Phone because she knew Windows. Then, realized Android may've been better because phone works different. lol
[20:59] <m1sf1t> jubale: is it windows RT? i've never used it.
[21:00] <jubale> I don't know.
[21:02] <m1sf1t> jubale: ah, android is great though :) it functions more like a computer rather than a social networking device :)
[21:04] <m1sf1t> brb, swapping computers
[21:04] <jubale> Yeah. I found changes to Skype to be VERY annoying, however, that is for Windows 8 desktop.
[21:04] <jubale> It would help if Google, Microsoft, etc. would stop thinking they have to own everything good.
[21:05] <geekmasterflash> jubale: Or even owning the not so good, in the case of Microsoft.
[21:06] <m1sf1t> back
[21:06] <jubale> Microsoft and Google want to own everything that is well known.
[21:07] <m1sf1t> jubale: i've heard speak of an ubuntu smartphone OS, what does anybody know about this?
[21:07] <jubale> I wouldn't find owning a few dozen companies, but seriously.
[21:07] <jubale> mind*
[21:07] <jubale> Ubuntu for smartphones exists.
[21:08] <m1sf1t> jubale: o_0 do you know if it's any good?
[21:08] <jubale> I've never tried, but little bit of reading I had done said it was in early (but stable) stage and growing popularity.
[21:09] <jubale> I don't think it's actually an OS, I think it's probably more like adding KDE to Ubuntu.
[21:10] <jubale> And, wtf do we need droid sans font for desktop?
[21:10] <tommy__> Hello, I have a clean xubuntu 12.04 install and updated it fully. I installed the xubuntu restrcited extras  but flash is not working in firefox. On the about:plugins page i see 2 flash related entries.: shockwave flash and future splash. the reported flashversion of firefox is 11.2.r202 . But the flash test page still sais a plugin is needed to play flash (pages like youtube also dont work)
[21:10] <m1sf1t> jubale: so basically an x environment for phones/tablets?
[21:11] <m1sf1t> jubale: does ubuntu even work on ARM processors?
[21:11] <Rory> !arm | m1sf1t
[21:12] <m1sf1t> ubottu: that's why i was wondering, surely ubuntu would only work on intel architecture?
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> lol
[21:13] <m1sf1t> hahaahaha
[21:14] <m1sf1t> ubottu seems nice :D
[21:14] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  In Ubuntu Software Center, when I click "Buy..." on a program, it loads up the "payment center".  THIS is what it loads: http://imgur.com/g1jGX7j
[21:15] <m1sf1t> Rory: you got me :P
[21:16] <jubale> I couldn't tell you. Frankly, I'm not very technical about mobile. I got my first smart phone only a year ago.
[21:17] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Try sudo apt-get install bibletime
[21:18] <m1sf1t> jubale: fair enough, i really want to get this ubuntu smartphone OS though :D i wonder if it will work on my old iPhone 3GS...
[21:18] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: I had a strange issue with fonts, and downloading that package including several fonts packages that fixed my issue
[21:18] <jazzme> hello again...I have just 3 processes running @ 100 cpu...Xorg - 34%, FF 32% and Task Manager20 %...seems kind of high for just 3.
[21:18] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: okay.  installing now.
[21:18] <jazzme> any ideas?
[21:19] <m1sf1t> jazzme: restarted computer? spt-get update and upgrade?
[21:19] <geekmasterflash> jazzme: Task manager is a processor hog, which tends to cause xorg to also go into overtime
[21:19] <geekmasterflash> jazzme: What's your processor?
[21:20] <Kurvivor> Hello! I am trying to make my printer accessible from my windows laptop, which is in the same local network
[21:20] <geekmasterflash> jazzme: On my dual core 2 Ghz machine it wasn't uncommon to see that level of usage when running task manager
[21:20] <Kurvivor> And i have run into a hurdle: how do i figure out the adressoof the printer for clients to connect to?
[21:21] <Kurvivor> I can see printer in  cups web interface
[21:21] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: log in to your router's gateway, it should list all devices connected to your LAN
[21:21] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: Is the printer connected to your PC via a USB cable or is it networked via ethernet?
[21:22] <Kurvivor> mlsflit: printer isn't connected to LAN; it is USB
[21:22] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: sorry, i presumed it was connected via LAN
[21:22] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: Then it has no ip address
[21:22] <Kurvivor> well, can it not be made accessible anyway?
[21:22] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: You have to pray that it appears as a network resource when you tell windows to share it
[21:23] <buchstabensalat_> I want to use 2 500gb drives to backup the content of a 1tb drive. by backup I mean mirroring, I don't have space for more fancy backups, and don't have money to buy additional space. I'm not sure how to go about distributing the data to the 2 drives. a 1tb logical volume would be convenient, but what if one of the drives fails? is there a way to recover the other half of my data from the other drive? if not, any other sugg
[21:23] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: um.. I installed 'bibletime'.  Still doesn't load the text.  However, I decided to look up "bibletime" on the software center.  It's an "easy-to-use bible study tool".  Was this a prank or something?  Or does this program bibletime really download fonts?
[21:23] <Kurvivor> i mean, that's what printing server is for?
[21:23] <Kurvivor> isn't it?
[21:23] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: You will want Samba on your linux box that's trying to use it
[21:23] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: But, windows sharing being what it is... good luck
[21:23] <jazzme> I don't even know...it is an old Dell single cpu 2 gig max ram
[21:23] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: It includes the core fonts packages
 printer is connected to linux pc, and windows is a client here
[21:24] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: So if it didnt help, then your issue wasn't a core fonts problem
[21:24] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: ok lol.
[21:24] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: any other ideas?
[21:24] <m1sf1t> geekmasterflash: don't even get me started on samba, it stopped my dpkg from working on ubuntu, had to purge it to get everything working fine again :(
[21:24] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: What DE are you using?
[21:24] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: ?
[21:25] <jazzme> someone mentioned something about unity 2D?
[21:25] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: i  do have samba installed
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: DE = Desktop enviroment
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Gnome, KDE< Unity...
[21:25] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: oh.  Unity
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Have you changed fonts in unity tweak?
[21:26] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: yeah I think.. possibly not
[21:26] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: does your router have a USB port? you might have an easier time with that
[21:26] <geekmasterflash> Boneheads1999: Find out. Also, did you install a unity theme that included white/dark backgrounds?
[21:27] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: stuck in the beginning; how do i add system-config-printer to the menu?
[21:27] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: no.  also, I don't have any program called "unity tweak"
[21:27] <Kurvivor> mlsflt: sadly, no
[21:27] <geekmasterflash> Kurvivor: Try... sudo apt-get install system-config-printer
[21:27] <jazzme> I closed down firefox...and now the CPU% is in the single digits.
[21:28] <jazzme> that is a bummer...I like watching youtube videos with FF.
[21:28] <wafflejockTablet> jazzme: yeah old CPUs don't like the HD video
[21:29] <xvzf> hi there, on Ubuntu 13.04 I the sound system always switch sound input to LINE IN instead of the headset, which is plugged in as a microphone. Where can I set microphone as the default sound input?
[21:29] <wafflejockTablet> Loaded up xubuntu on a dell c600 it just crashes flash when you get to youtube
[21:29] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: damn :( looks like you're gonna have to try your luck with samba. note: if after installing samba, apt-get starts spitting error messages at you, purge samba. i had that problem
[21:30] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: mine was samba4, you could try a different version if that happens
[21:30] <Boneheads1999> geekmasterflash: should I download unity tweak? (since I don't have it)
[21:30] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: apt-get tells me i already have latest system-config-printer-gnome; still no administration in settings or server menu in printers
[21:30] <wafflejockTablet> Xvzf ordinarily in the system settings for sound if that doesn't work out u may want to try alsamixer in alsa-utils
[21:31] <wafflejockTablet> Boneheads1999: if u want to tweak unity yes
[21:31] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: I'm not sure that it will without samba installed
[21:31] <Boneheads1999> wafflejockTablet: look http://imgur.com/g1jGX7j
[21:31] <Kurvivor> geekmasterflash: but i have "Share printers connected to this system" set in CUPS web interface, though
[21:31] <tommy__> hello people. I have the adobe flash plugin installed (ubutnu 12.04) but the browser dont see it. They report it as being used in the about:plugin pages but it just wont load
[21:31] <Kurvivor> mlsflit: i have samba installed
[21:31] <Boneheads1999> wafflejockTablet: that's the screen I get after I click "buy..." on ubuntu software center
[21:31] <wafflejockTablet> Boneheads1999: hmm I see
[21:32] <wafflejockTablet> So missing some labels and the like?
[21:32] <Boneheads1999> yeah
[21:32] <Kurvivor> mlsflt: at some point i realised i have no idea how i would connect from the client. I mean, i need an url or name for that. Where do i get/set that?
[21:33] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: oh, ok you need to look at /etc/samba/smb.conf and set that file up so that your printer can be shared over the network :)
[21:33] <knadyy> damn this girl has a nice pussy http://instaflurt.com/yuribalbin/
[21:33] <jazzme> thanks for the help.
[21:33] <wafflejockTablet> Strange perhaps playing with themes or the like will help haven't dug into unity tweak too much but when I have used it all good
[21:35] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: it will be an example configuration by default, explaining how to configure samba
[21:35] <dgarstang3> I use to create a response file to install a package and say yes when prompted about overwriting a config file...
[21:36] <xvzf> wafflejockTablet, at settings->sound I do not have the option to set things for default, only for the sake of the moment. And then it reverts back to LINE IN. Alsamixer does not influence this
[21:36] <wafflejockTablet> xvzf: perhaps try pavucontrol sorry your right about alsa
[21:37] <wafflejockTablet> xvzf: using kubuntu here so the audio settings panel is different
[21:37] <wafflejockTablet> Well actually on a nexus 10 ATM but using KDE regularly
[21:38] <Iulia> Hello everyone! Please, can anyone give me a link with a good guide of how to make compatible aplications of 32 bits in 64 bits? I have 13.10 64 bits. Many thanks!!
[21:39] <m1sf1t> Iulia: the program has to be specifically written for 64 bit architecture. YOu won't be able to just compile it as 64 bit.
[21:40] <Iulia> oh...thanks then
[21:40] <m1sf1t> Iulia: no problem :) maybe it's worth having a look if there is a 64 bit release
[21:41] <Iulia> Seems that no..Thans for your time
[21:42] <m1sf1t> Iulia: not a problem :) you're very polite :)
[21:43] <wafflejockTablet> Gotta say that was the most polite irc chat I've seen in weeks :)
[21:44] <m1sf1t> Kurvivor: I have to go now, hope you manage to get your printer set up over the network :)
[21:45] <m1sf1t> wafflejockTablet: haha xD manners don't cost a thing :) except maybe a few keystrokes
[21:45] <robierob> guys how would i load up ubuntu with out  a desktop enviroment
[21:45] <Lenny> is anyone using latest fglrx-updates experiencing bad performance while playing games?  (13.10)
[21:45] <Beldar> robierob, Load from a install, or install without a desktop?
[21:45] <m1sf1t> Bye everyone, peace :)
[21:46] <Iulia> byeee
[21:46] <wafflejockTablet> m1sf1t: peace
[21:46] <robierob> i guess...comand line interface but no desktop
[21:46] <wafflejockTablet> robierob: u want the server install
[21:46] <Beldar> robierob, On a install already there on on a install?
[21:46] <Beldar> or*
[21:47] <robierob> well i am trying to build my own distro if that helps
[21:47] <Beldar> robierob, he not really but carry on, hehe.
[21:47] <Beldar> well*
[21:47] <robierob> i want to make a xubuntu studio/ version with my own programs i want
[21:48] <robierob> instead of everthing that comes with ubuntu studio
[21:48] <Beldar> robierob, You could do a net install of just the base than add what you want.
[21:49] <robierob> ...how?
[21:49] <wafflejockTablet> True minimal install cd
[21:49] <Beldar> robierob, what release?
[21:49] <robierob> ummm.... yeah?
[21:49] <Kurvivor> m1sf1t: thanks!
[21:50] <Hai_Karate> robierob - check this out. Its a base system install.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[21:50] <robierob> well stable would be nice....and not having to compile anything
[21:50] <wafflejockTablet> robierob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:50] <Hai_Karate> I did the min cd and it worked great!
[21:50] <robierob> ok ....i also need the realtime kernal
[21:51] <creek> Shuld I move to OpenBSD?
[21:51] <wafflejockTablet> Yeah did one too was pretty fun, makes me want to try arch but just getting comfy with dpkg still
[21:51] <xangua> creek: that's up to you
[21:51] <Hai_Karate> after the base install just add what you want.
[21:51] <geekmasterflash> creek: Is there some feature of -BSD that you want that isn't implimented elsewhere?
[21:52] <creek> Oh crap.. wrong channel..
[21:52] <geekmasterflash> creek: Otherwise, "should" is irrelevant
[21:52] <geekmasterflash> creek: Want to, however
[21:52] <creek> sorry, I was on #freebsd just now, I using BSD already.. :P
[21:52] <arooni-mobile> trying to use xmodmap but when i have this in my .xmodmap file: "keycode 0x94 = Shift_L NoSymbol NoSymbol NoSymbol"  it doesnt seem to do anything.  ideas?
[21:53] <robierob> i see looks god like something i was looking for but didnt know it....
[21:53] <reisio> it's not ~/.xmodmaprc ?
[21:53] <Hai_Karate> I did a LFS install but ran into probs with wireless, then switched ti minCD command line and was much happier
[21:54] <robierob> yeah....?....my dream here is to custom roll....but still have realtime kernal and no compiling...
[21:54] <wafflejockTablet> Just did it for a c600 cause all I had was dual layer DVDs it couldn't read or CD so minimal was the only option but getting xubuntu installed was pretty easy
[21:54] <Hai_Karate> Min CD is simple, fast, and boots to a command line. log in and go from there.
[21:54] <Beldar> robierob, The mini/net install is nice as it loads the latest of whatever release you install.
[21:54] <Hai_Karate> yep
[21:55] <robierob> hmmmm ok and which link was that you pointed me too...?
[21:55] <robierob> there was 2
[21:56] <Beldar> robierob, Take a look at Hai_Karate's link it has nice graphics of the actual install and links to the other link posted.
[21:56] <wafflejockTablet> The one I sent is for Ubuntu minimal https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:56] <wafflejockTablet> No instructions there really just isos
[21:57] <sarvesh> Hello everybody
[21:57] <wafflejockTablet> Hello sarvesh
[21:57] <Nomo> Hail sarvesh
[21:57] <robierob> well i can get around with terminal ok....so i think this is what i want thanks guys....do you have time for a few more troubleshooting things?
[21:58] <sarvesh> hey can anyone suggest me how to get started with this gsoc thing
[21:58] <wafflejockTablet> The channel is always here :)
[21:58] <sarvesh> thanks, i'm here first time
[21:58] <Hai_Karate> I installed the iceWM for kicks but took it off after 5 min haha
[21:58] <picca> i wish windowmaker was still maintained
[21:59] <robierob> ok i cant get steam to run after installing last night and team fortress wont work......
[21:59] <geekmasterflash> robierob: When you run steam from command, what does it say?
[21:59] <robierob> lets see
[21:59] <wafflejockTablet> sarvesh: not sure what u mean generally this channel is just Ubuntu support, are u having a problem with Ubuntu?
[22:00] <Nomo> sarvesh: Nevr heard of gsoc, this is for Ubuntu help
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[22:00] <sarvesh> nomo: google summer of code..
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone tell me a good article to search the max network speed of a wireless card? Shopping for a new laptop and curious about this
[22:00] <Wiz_KeeD> saw some letters at the end b g c whatever
[22:01] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm assuming there are different max speeds
[22:01] <Hai_Karate> n
[22:01] <sarvesh> but anyways i found channel for it, thanks
[22:01] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: ##hardware or ##networking would be a more appropriate place to ask.
[22:01] <Wiz_KeeD> I trust linuxers XD
[22:01] <robierob> well dosent look good....lol  http://pastebin.com/xF4i7xnb
[22:02] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: then try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:02] <Nomo> sarvesh: cool, was about to recommend #learnprogramming
[22:03] <Dan9311> Im trying to install a adobe flash plugin for chromium, I dont know how to install. Im running ubuntu saucy.
[22:03] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: they we're basically b then g then a then n, there's also dual band n but both router and receiver must support to take advantage
[22:03] <alkamid> Hi. I have a laptop (Lenovo T61) and a monitor (Dell Ultrasharp 23''). The monitor worked out of the box, but stopped today (possibly after a software upgrade?). I can configure it to display in lower resolutions, but not in its native 1920x1080. Tried going back from nvidia drivers to nouveau - didn't help
[22:03] <sarvesh> nomo: thanks
[22:03] <wafflejockTablet> Dan9311: should be built in u check about:plugins in the browser
[22:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Idk what wireless card my laptop has wafflejockTablet but it's limited to 2mb/s always :(
[22:03] <robierob> it was working last night then i tried to install the drivers for opengl to work... now all this crap... steam wont load now and team fortress still dosent work
[22:04] <Wiz_KeeD> and that's a big bummer
[22:04] <robierob> yup...lol
[22:04] <robierob> i havent been able to kill anything in weeks....   :(
[22:05] <Nomo> Wiz_KeeD: that sucks indeed
[22:05] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: shouldn't be the case wireless b is at 11 mbps
[22:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Nomo, shouldn't it go a bit higher?
[22:05] <Wiz_KeeD> Linux and Windows alike, max 2mb/s
[22:05] <wafflejockTablet> G at 54
[22:05] <Dan9311> wafflejockTablet: Nope, just checked.
[22:05] <robierob> geekmasterflash: what do you think
[22:05] <wafflejockTablet> Mbps is not MBps keep in mind
[22:06] <OerHeks> 2 mb ~ 11 mbit
[22:06] <wafflejockTablet> Factor of 8
[22:06] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Sorry, I was on a phone call. Can you tell me what it said again?
[22:06] <robierob> pastebin    http://pastebin.com/xF4i7xnb
[22:06] <Wiz_KeeD> soo it's limisted to 2mb
[22:06] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: new adapter for $10 from monoprice
[22:07] <Wiz_KeeD> adapter? to place inside the laptop?
[22:07] <wafflejockTablet> Small usb
[22:07] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Ouch
[22:07] <robierob> yup!
[22:07] <geekmasterflash> robierob: What graphics card do you use?
[22:07] <Dan9311> Im trying to install a adobe flash plugin for chromium, I dont know how to install. Im running ubuntu saucy.
[22:07] <robierob> terminal command?
[22:07] <Wiz_KeeD> port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
[22:08] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, or your wifirouter is just 11 mbit ..
[22:08] <Wiz_KeeD> product: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[22:08] <CalimeroTeknik> hello
[22:08] <CalimeroTeknik> what is indicator-monitor on ubuntu?
[22:08] <Wiz_KeeD> OerHeks, nop, had another laptop before returning it, downloaded with 7mb/s
[22:08] <robierob> geekmasterflash: what command?
[22:08] <wafflejockTablet> Wiz_KeeD: ah yeah maybe on the router end
[22:08] <wafflejockTablet> Hmm
[22:08] <geekmasterflash> robierob: lspci
[22:09] <robierob> sudo?
[22:09] <wafflejockTablet> G should get 54 mbps
[22:09] <Hai_Karate> np
[22:09] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Shouldn't require sudo
[22:09] <Wiz_KeeD> also, it's limited everywhere and I just pasted the speed
[22:09] <Wiz_KeeD> 10mbit/s
[22:09] <wafflejockTablet> N is like 100-300 or something depending on the router etc etc
[22:09] <geekmasterflash> robierob: lspci, then find the VGA compatable controller
[22:09] <geekmasterflash> robierob: That will tell me your graphics card
[22:09] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Where did you get the 10mbit/s from?
[22:09] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway, hope my new laptop will not be so limited but I really CAN'T DECIDE...trying to avoid optimus at all costs, 15 inch...dunno where to go
[22:09] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: mii-tool?
[22:10] <robierob> just a sec pastbining
[22:10] <Wiz_KeeD> lshw -C network bekks
[22:10] <sebastiano> ciao a tutti
[22:10] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Thats pretty inaccurate. Use iwconfig for determining the speed of a wifi interface
[22:11] <Wiz_KeeD> Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[22:11] <robierob> http://pastebin.com/0sTAYbRw
[22:11] <Wiz_KeeD> still, 2mb everywhere I go in hundrets of places
[22:11] <robierob> there you go...
[22:11] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Please put my name on all communications with me
[22:11] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: So you are connected with 54MB/s currently.
[22:11] <robierob> k
[22:11] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Even the pastebins
[22:11] <robierob> ok
[22:11] <robierob> geekmasterflash: http://pastebin.com/0sTAYbRw
[22:11] <Wiz_KeeD> yet it doesn't go over 2mb and the same place and same router 1 week ago just a different laptop pulled 7mb easy
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway, besides the point I just need a new laptop :(
[22:12] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: it may be a driver issue.
[22:12] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Laptop?
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> bekks, both windows and ubuntu, strange
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> http://www.pcgarage.ro/notebook-laptop/asus/156-k56ca-xx139d-procesor-intel-core-i7-3517u-19ghz-ivy-bridge-4gb-500gb-hd-4000-black/
[22:12] <robierob> yes
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> I really love the look on this one, dunno what to say
[22:12] <robierob> geekmasterflash: yes
[22:12] <Wiz_KeeD> a pitty it's a i7 with just 2 cores and 4m cache
[22:13] <Wiz_KeeD> At least no optimus technology crap to push me into using bumblebee and a lot of other problems
[22:13] <robierob> geekmasterflash: its and ati redeon something
[22:13] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Yes I see that
[22:13] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Do you have desktop effects enabled?
[22:13] <robierob> geekmasterflash: ....ummmmm no?
[22:13] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Because this error tells me that steam can't get hardware acceleration to load
[22:14] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Is the driver installed?
[22:14] <robierob> i C
[22:14] <robierob> geekmasterflash: i dont know
[22:14] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Go to System Settings -> Details
[22:14] <robierob> k
[22:14] <geekmasterflash> robierob: There will be a graphics list
[22:15] <geekmasterflash> robierob: What does it say?
[22:15] <Wiz_KeeD> any thoughts? XD
[22:15] <robierob> i am on xubuntu
[22:16] <seronis> im trying to use 'touch ../exists/doesntexistyet/newfile.txt' but touch is failing saying no such file or directory
[22:17] <seronis> i thought touch was supposed to CREATE any needed directories to produce the file
[22:17] <waddedMeat> I'm trying to compile some C and I'm getting an error in function `ssl_send' with a list of undefined references to `ERR_clear_error', `SSL_write`, etc... anyone have ideas? (Ubuntu 12.04 desktop x86_64)
[22:18] <seronis> waddedMeat,   'undefined reference' means you either didnt compile (and link in) a source file that has the code for that function,  or that you forgot to use the -lname  to link in the appropriate library
[22:18] <waddedMeat> everything compiles fine; I get the errors on linking
[22:18] <seronis> considering it mentions SSL,  its safe to assume you didnt add the ssl lib to the linker options
[22:19] <waddedMeat> seronis I have -lssl -lcrypto
[22:19] <waddedMeat> what really makes me upset is it compiles and runs on OSX, but I can't get it running on Ubuntu
[22:20] <seronis> waddedMeat,  try  -lssleay and maybe -leay
[22:20] <trism> waddedMeat: our linker is more strict, make sure the -llibrary args are at the end
[22:20] <sebastiano> add
[22:20] <seronis> trism, g++ on xubuntu (prob the same) hasnt yelled at me this week for having my lib names up front
[22:21] <Reacto> In 13.10, whenever I reboot my computer the terminal hotkey stops working and I have to bind it again, anyone else had this issue?
[22:21] <seronis> though i know its officially bad.. its just a 20 year old script
[22:21] <truebattleaxe> hey all i had a question.  If i want to install mir is it decently stable to run with a virtual machine?
[22:22] <chull> hi *hugs* it's chalcedony, my husband's computer Ubuntu 13.04 with compiz, has grayed out about 2/3 of his screens, firefox and Libre Office, & the controls, how do we get it un-grayed, please?
[22:23] <chull> new Office docs aren't grayed but don't rise to the top when i click on them.
[22:23] <seronis> truebattleaxe, zero personal experience but i have one buddy who runs ubuntu in a vm with mir. his comp is a 2200$ system though
[22:27] <charlie> hello..
[22:27] <Danato> truebattleaxe: you made me interested on experimenting it, but the main reason i want to adopt mir is because i have a hybrid graphics laptop and using a vm it wouldnt be the same
[22:28] <truebattleaxe> hi
[22:28] <charlie> anyone here got experience of using ?kernel config parameters ? or items in /proc to get maximum possible throughput from a networking interface ?
[22:28] <impossible> are most or all hp printers compatible with linux?
[22:29] <truebattleaxe> true. i use ubuntu for my main. so I was going to do a dual boot and test it on a second install
[22:29] <Danato> truebattleaxe: if you do that please let me know what do you think about it, i was thinking to do it but i thought i should let them cook it up a bit more
[22:35] <robierob> ok guys a good question for you.....i cant find my driver for an ATI radeo grafic card from way back... and helpers?
[22:36] <charlie> #robierob: try starting with the AMD support site.
[22:36] <robierob> i didnt its not listed
[22:36] <robierob> i did
[22:37] <charlie> ? google ?
[22:37] <robierob> hrmmmm.... ok
[22:37] <Dan9311> Im trying to install a adobe flash plugin for chromium, I dont know how to install. Im running ubuntu saucy.
[22:37] <iceroot> Dan9311: you are not installing flash on chromium
[22:37] <charlie> especially using the PCI vendor id & product ID you get from lspci -vv
[22:37] <iceroot> Dan9311: flash comes per default with chromium
[22:38] <homerjr> hello, i updated 13.10 from kernel 3.11.0-12 to 3.12.0-031200, also updated NVIDIA driver to 331.20. Now before the login screen I receive "Fast TSC calibration failed"
[22:38] <robierob> RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]   this is what i got....
[22:38] <Dan9311> iceroot: it says im missing the plugin when I try to browse youtbue
[22:38] <iceroot> Dan9311: hm strange
[22:38] <iceroot> Dan9311: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:38] <bekks> Thats outdated.
[22:38] <iceroot> Dan9311: but normally that should not change anything
[22:39] <bekks> Just use chrome which ships with current Flash.
[22:39] <Hai_Karate> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:39] <Dan9311> bekks: How do I download and install chrome?
[22:40] <charlie> robierob: sorry, should have added -n to the lspci switches, that gives you the numeric ids..
[22:40] <bekks> !chrome
[22:40] <bekks> hmm.
[22:40] <iceroot> !amd | robierob
[22:40] <iceroot> !ati | robierob
[22:40] <Dan9311> iceroot: It worked! Thanks for the help. :)
[22:40] <bekks> Dan9311: http://www.google.com/intl/de/chrome/
[22:41] <iceroot> Dan9311: strange i thought chromium also have its own flash plugin but as it seems its not the case
[22:41] <Dan9311> iceroot: well regardless, I appreciate the help
[22:42] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu installation now im on install grub boot loader on hard disk section.. the err message is grub-pc package failed to install into target.. but i see that the hardisk mount properly on /target
[22:42] <iceroot> homerjr: we are not supporting custom kernels here
[22:42] <fishcooker> what should i do .. skip it or?
[22:43] <iceroot> homerjr: normally there is no reason to use another kernel then the one(s) from the official repos. newer is not always better (and out of ubuntu security support)
[22:44] <v1c3> hi! virtual users do not work on my proFTPD server. secure.log says USER wordpress: no such user found from ..... has anybody an idea? there is nothing in /var/log/auth.log! Could it be that the virtual users arend recognized by PAM. How can i fix that?
[22:45] <homerjr> iceroot, the kernel came from http://kernel.ubuntu.com, I did not realize that I could get a custom kernel from there
[22:50] <ubuntu-addict> Hello. I have installed ubuntu on my rog g750 but i think it's not as quick as with windows. Is ubuntu able to manage all the tricks offered by an i7?
[22:50] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Yes, it is.
[22:51] <Danato> http://askubuntu.com/questions/330862/how-do-i-find-out-if-my-system-is-using-mir
[22:51] <Danato> sorry
[22:53] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: for example when i open a 1go text file and test with time, I found that it's quicker on my old core2duo +4goram than on this i7-4700hg-24go ram (both with ubuntu 64bits). an idea? did I something wrong?
[22:53] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: I have no clue whats "1go"
[22:54] <rostam> hi what is the format of dmesg timing stamp? e.x 89415.040692
[22:54] <bekks> rostam: seconds since poweron.
[22:55] <rostam> bekks,  so what exactly the seconds are in this time stamp 89415.040692  ?
[22:55] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: 1 Go sorry
[22:55] <bekks> rostam: 89415 seconds.
[22:55] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: I still have no idea whats "1 Go".
[22:55] <ubuntu-addict> the size of the file...
[22:56] <rostam> bekks, thanks I assume the one after "." are in milliseconds
[22:56] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: 1000 Mo
[22:56] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Whats "go" as a unit?
[22:56] <bekks> ubuntu-addict: Do you mean "Gigabyte"?
[22:56] <daftykins> gigaoctet - gigabyte
[22:56] <ubuntu-addict> bekks:  yes
[22:56] <Hai_Karate> Gb
[22:56] <daftykins> no, Gb = gigabit
[22:56] <daftykins> fun facts from daftykins!
[22:57] <ubuntu-addict> bekks: ok let say a big text file
[22:57] <CptBley> Hi there
[22:57] <charlie> ubuntu-addict: unfortunate fact of life that it is the memory speed that finally determines application performance rather than the CPU speed. One simple task (like open big file) will not be faster on faster CPU; but i7 can keep more plates spinning at same time..
[22:57] <CptBley> I need help
[22:58] <bekks> charlie: which is not true. Even a very slow CPU is far more faster than the fastest bus a disk could be connected to.
[22:58] <daftykins> CptBley: ask away
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> CptBley  let's hear it, in one line
[22:58] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[22:59] <CptBley> there
[22:59] <v1c3> hi! virtual users do not work on my proFTPD server. secure.log says USER wordpress: no such user found from ..... has anybody an idea? there is nothing in /var/log/auth.log! Could it be that the virtual users arend recognized by PAM. How can i fix that?
[22:59] <CptBley> read that
[22:59] <tking0036> Does anyone know how to use cut with " is a delimeter
[22:59] <bekks> tking0036: Use "\""
[22:59] <tking0036> bekks: Thanks I'll give that  a whack
[22:59] <akurilin> Is /tmp by default mounted as an in-memory filesystem in ubuntu 12.04?
[23:00] <bekks> akurilin: yes.
[23:00] <charlie> becks: that is my point.. the CPU that is even a little bit faster than the memory or disk is waiting for the data all the time. sure the CPU can go fast all by itself; but no input data means no output data..
[23:00] <CptBley> Hello
[23:00] <CptBley> did anyone get that
[23:00] <ubuntu-addict> If I'm not mistaken, on this gamer laptop, every component is quicker than my 7 years old laptop.
[23:00] <tking0036> bekks: cut -d '"' -f2 worked
[23:00] <bekks> tking0036: cool :)
[23:00] <akurilin> bekks, can I run something on the cmdline to check that?
[23:01] <bekks> akurilin: "mount"
[23:01] <tking0036> I need help with sed though
[23:01] <tking0036> how can I replace &amp; with &
[23:01] <bekks> tking0036: s/\&amp\;/\&/g
[23:01] <bekks> Or even: s/amp\;//g
[23:03] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:03] <ubuntu-addict> Can someone tell me how can I use awk to open a matrix and replace all negative values by 0?
[23:03] <akurilin> bekks, mount | grep /tmp returns nothing on my 13.10 instance
[23:03] <bekks> akurilin: mount | grep tmp
[23:03] <akurilin> bekks, same thing, just returns instances with tmpfs
[23:04] <bekks> akurilin: Maybe because /tmp is mounted as tmpfs ...
[23:04] <cheasee> hi
[23:04] <akurilin> bekks, nothing is mounted "on" /tmp though
[23:04] <akurilin> in that list
[23:04] <bekks> akurilin: then pastebin "mount" please.
[23:04] <cheasee> what could cause "SSL error: decryption failed or bad record mac" ? googling for it there are several possible fixes depending on the application which often has to do with something modifying openssl.
[23:04] <CptBley> Is anyone reading my studd
[23:04] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:04] <zykotick9> bekks: i was "surprised" by your answer about /tmp.  akurilin
[23:05] <cheasee> in my case im working with bucardo to sync tables from postgresql, which seems to use openssl but i never touched anything with ssl, i installed postgres, bucardo and am working with this
[23:05] <tking0036> bekks: no dice with the first one
[23:05] <tking0036> bekks: not quite sure how sed works
[23:05] <tking0036> should I do cat thefile | sed s/\&amp\;/\&/g
[23:05] <akurilin> bekks, http://pastebin.com/UJTpxwGP
[23:05] <akurilin> zykotick9, what do you mean?
[23:06] <cheasee> im on ubuntu precise and default bucardo pkg worked basicaly but gave some minor errors where i tried to manually installing latest stable from bucardo and since manual installing (also some modules via cpan) bucardo doesnt work
[23:06] <CptBley> Hey
[23:06] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:06] <bekks> zykotick9: hmmm. at least on 12.04 which I have here /tmp is mounted as tmpfs. As a matter of fact, I am not 100% sure wether I changed that since installing it.
[23:06] <cheasee> problem and postgresql debug logs pasted here: http://pastebin.com/PzhkuLPm
[23:06] <tking0036> the second one worked
[23:06] <CptBley> Help me please
[23:06] <CptBley> this is urgent
[23:06] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:06] <bekks> zykotick9: Seems like I did change it.
[23:06] <zykotick9> akurilin: i "didn't" think /tmp was a tmpfs by default...
[23:06] <cheasee> tried to remove bucardo installation and every file named like this, removed as much as possible from the perl/cpan modules i installed manually, then installed default ubuntu pkg but still same problem
[23:07] <cheasee> tried to reinstall perl, dpkg-reconfigure perl, but that also didnt help so i guess its really some openssl thing i broke while manually installing bucardo?
[23:07] <akurilin> bekks, zykotick9 is there a good already existing location I could use to dump temporary files to that require in-memory performance?
[23:08] <bekks> akurilin: I just changed /tmp to be mounted as /tmpfs - basically nothing in there is worth to be preserved over a reboot.
[23:08] <tking0036> Kk stupid question, how do I load all of the lines from a file into an array with bash
[23:08] <akurilin> bekks, just a change in fstab and it kicks in right away, right?
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> CptBley  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntu-server
[23:09] <bekks> akurilin: Yeah. Like this: tmpfs /tmp tmpfs default,size=33% 0 0
[23:09] <bekks> akurilin: I have 16GB RAM, so I dont care about that third :)
[23:09] <akurilin> bekks, do I seriously not need to reboot anything when I do that? :|
[23:09] <bekks> akurilin: that wasnt the question ;) you need to restart lightdm at least.
[23:10] <akurilin> bekks, thinking more about a server context
[23:10] <Lenny> is anyone using latest fglrx-updates experiencing bad performance while playing games?  (13.10)
[23:10] <bekks> akurilin: you could take a look at lsof
[23:11] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:11] <CptBley> MonkeyDust nobody is helping
[23:11] <truebattleaxe> whats your issue cptbley?
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> it wont boot from disk?
[23:12] <CptBley> I am trying to boot ubuntu server 12.04 from a DVD - RW and I select it in the boot menu but all that happens is a blinking _  then it asks whether I want to boot from windows or Ubuntu 12.04 which I have previously installed
[23:12] <CptBley> yeah
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> is it 64 or 32?
[23:12] <akurilin> bekks, great, thank you!
[23:12] <CptBley> 64
[23:12] <charlie> CptBley: is the DVD set up as a bootable DVD ? can you boot other machines using it ?
[23:12] <bekks> akurilin: you're welcome :)
[23:12] <CptBley> i dont know
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> what charlie said. that was my next question
[23:12] <CptBley> I don't want to boot my mac with it
[23:12] <truebattleaxe> is the disk bootble?
[23:12] <CptBley> how do I make it bootable in mac
[23:13] <truebattleaxe> you can see if it loads it you dont have to do anything from there
[23:13] <CptBley> ok
[23:13] <truebattleaxe> it should just recognize it
[23:13] <CptBley> brb
[23:13] <Craxxy> I'm trying to use wget to download wikipedia pagecount files. If i use  an url that leads to a page with .gz links it downloads the gz archives but when i try to use the same command but from an url higher up in the hierarchy it wont download the .gz files. This works as i expect: wget --recursive  --no-parent --level 3 --accept .gz --execute  robots=off http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/2013-11/ -P /media/nas1/data/tes
[23:13] <Craxxy> t/   This for some reason skips the .gz files:  wget --recursive  --no-parent --level 3 --accept .gz --execute  robots=off http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/ -P /media/nas1/data/test/   What options should i use with wget to be able to download all .gz files for 2013 using the url http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/2013/?
[23:14] <charlie> here is a bump of my Q, since it looks like old Q's disappear into the log that only NSA checks..
[23:15] <charlie> anyone here got experience of using ?kernel config parameters ? or items in /proc to get maximum possible throughput from a networking interface ?
[23:16] <reisio> charlie: #networking
[23:16] <pinPoint> anyone using an apache 2.4.6 ppa yet? i know...
[23:16] <reisio> pinPoint: do you know
[23:17] <charlie> reisic: thanks..will have a look..
[23:17] <pinPoint> i know I've asked couple times
[23:17] <pinPoint> reisio: do you run Apache?
[23:17] <reisio> pinPoint: on some older boxes
[23:17] <bekks> pinPoint: oh, you again. You got the solution already.
[23:17] <reisio> use nginx for new stuff
[23:17] <pinPoint> Ondrej's PPA?
[23:18] <bekks> pinPoint: I wont recommend using a PPA for production usage.
[23:18] <pinPoint> but why? :)
[23:19] <pinPoint> bekks: so let me ask you a question about installing from ppa.
[23:19] <bekks> pinPoint: security, trust, responsibility.
[23:19] <pinPoint> if I have an older version of apache, will it overwrite it or install both versions?
[23:19] <Rory> pinPoint: Not even those things really, just weird package breakages 3 weeks later that prevent you from updating and you have no idea why
[23:20] <bekks> pinPoint: IF the maintainer of the PPA built a somehow sane package, it will force you to uninstall the older version. If not - welcome to trouble.
[23:20] <pinPoint> but 2.4.6 is better than 2.2.x even it breaks it is still a newer version
[23:20] <bekks> There is no "better" in terms of software...
[23:20] <pinPoint> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej
[23:20] <pinPoint> he is very established in launchpad stats
[23:20] <bekks> pinPoint: Its your choice, not mine :)
[23:21] <bekks> pinPoint: If you need support for his PPA, please contact him.
[23:21] <bekks> pinPoint: This channel generally not recommedn using a PPA.
[23:26] <v1c3> how to paste to a pastebin service from commandline?
[23:26] <v1c3> or whats ubuntus wgetpaste
[23:26] <bekks> v1c3: "pastebinit"
[23:26] <wheatthin> v1c3, pastebinit
[23:26] <v1c3> thx!
[23:26] <wheatthin> ahh shucks
[23:26] <wheatthin> lol
[23:27] <truebattleaxe> ive lost volume control with kde
[23:27] <truebattleaxe> anyone know how to get it back?
[23:30] <MonkeyDust> truebattleaxe  how did you lose it?
[23:30] <rjzell> can anyone help me out with an issue i am having trying to move my /home to a new partition?
[23:30] <truebattleaxe> i have no idea monkeydust
[23:31] <truebattleaxe> it just disappeared when i booted
[23:31] <truebattleaxe> ive rebooted a couple times and it is still gone
[23:32] <rjzell> i am using the instructions found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving and am on the sudo diff /home /meda/home step and am receiving a bunch of diff errors referencing /.ecryptfs/rjzell/.Private/
[23:33] <rjzell> should all of these be different or did my rsync not work correctly?
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> truebattleaxe  and it's ubuntu?
[23:33] <reisio> rjzell: it's probably comparing a FUSE mounted system vs one that is not
[23:33] <reisio> rjzell: so naturally it would differ
[23:33] <reisio> rjzell: run 'mount' to see what FUSE systems you have mounted
[23:34] <reisio> oh ecryptfs isn't fuse is it
[23:34] <reisio> still, it'll probably show in mount
[23:34] <rjzell> this is what i got: /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:34] <rjzell> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[23:34] <rjzell> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[23:34] <rjzell> none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
[23:34] <rjzell> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[23:34] <FloodBot1> rjzell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <rjzell> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[23:36] <CptBley> hey
[23:36] <gassho> whats +z signify
[23:36] <CptBley> sorry I took so long
[23:36] <reisio> gassho: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml at the bottom
[23:37] <Rory> gassho: ops see messages, nobody else does
[23:37] <Rory> Oh wait that's not right
[23:37] <gassho> hehe
[23:37] <Rory> It's something to do with messages being sent to ops anyway. Google it :P
[23:38] <kbrosnan> gassho: https://www.freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[23:38] <rjzell> sorry about that. it does show none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[23:39] <CptBley> it is bootable
[23:39] <CptBley> but it won't boot when I select it in the boot menu
[23:39] <rjzell> i also see gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=rjzell)
[23:39] <rjzell> gvfsd-fuse on /root/.gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[23:40] <charlie> CptBley: what is the difference between the machine where the disk boots and the one where it will not ?
[23:40] <CptBley> oh it didn't boot on mac
[23:40] <CptBley> I don't know how to open the boot menu on my mac
[23:41] <FuuqUmist> i am having problems installing flash, i think the flash installer can't connect to adobe's website or something. i tried these methods http://eeecoder.blogspot.ca/2013/08/flash-for-linux.html
[23:42] <charlie> CptBley: are you sure the DVD format/content is bootable by the MAC ??
[23:42] <rjzell> so, if it is mounted to FUSE systems, will it not work correctly? Do I need to abandon my attempt to move my /home to a different partition?
[23:42] <CptBley> idk
[23:42] <CptBley> wait I am trying another approach
[23:43] <CptBley> whats the Ubutnu website
[23:43] <CptBley> ubuntu*
[23:43] <CptBley> is there a ubuntu server installer charlie?
[23:44] <Beldar> FuuqUmist, the flash installer connects with the repos not adobe.
[23:44] <Beldar> the partner repo at that
[23:45] <charlie> CptBley: I am sure there is; just not sure if they provide one that is MAC specific.
[23:46] <FuuqUmist> Beldar i guess i'm having problems connecting to the repo server, how can i verify that everything is proper, like the address and keys and such
[23:46] <Beldar> FuuqUmist, This ubuntu?
[23:46] <FuuqUmist> yeah
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> FuuqUmist  just to be sure: what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[23:47] <Beldar> FuuqUmist, run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the partner repo is not off with a # in front, have you done a update?
[23:50] <rjzell> this is the pastebin url for the output of running mount: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461162/
[23:50] <baba> hi there
[23:50] <reisio> hi here
[23:51] <daftykins> hi everywhere
[23:51] <baba> have a problem with downloading
[23:51] <urielvigilant> Today friday night , i tryed to see  new original DVD movie that come offer with newspaper in my country, and i discoveres i wasnt able to do it, nether in ubuntu 13.10 nether in lubuntu 13.0 . I follow instructions here to install VLC and i did , but even aftar open disc, no VOB files run. i found this  webiste page http://askubuntu.com/questions/15090/how-to-play-vob-files-that-were-inside-a-dvd
[23:51] <urielvigilant> -disc    , please tell me , i need all that work to see a certain vob dvd movie ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461227/
[23:51] <baba> need help
[23:51] <daftykins> urielvigilant: you don't play the files, you tell it to play the disc
[23:51] <MonkeyDust> urielvigilant  try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:52] <urielvigilant> MonkeyDust: i have rstricted extras ! i try play disc. .. . and it opens a windows with errors .
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> urielvigilant  what errors? use pastebin to show us
[23:53] <urielvigilant> Its original DVD that comes free with newspaper, i tryed 3 of them
[23:53] <urielvigilant> ok
[23:53] <urielvigilant> i will... minute .please
[23:53] <baba> i need help
[23:53] <daftykins> baba: please describe what you're trying to download and what's going wrong
[23:53] <MonkeyDust> baba  let's hea it, in one line
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> hear*
[23:54] <baba> have downloading problems...all dowloading dont work
[23:54] <MonkeyDust> baba  downloading what, from where?
[23:55] <Hai_Karate> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[23:55] <Hai_Karate> then.. sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[23:55] <baba> most of  packages i download esp zip's can't be opened
[23:56] <InQuIrI> hello guys
[23:56] <FlurglerHobbit> Hey all. When I reboot my computer with my external HD's plugged in the computer doesn't recognize them from terminal. I have to actually click on the icon on the desktop that shows the HD for it to be recognized? Can anyone explain to me what is going on?
[23:56] <MonkeyDust> baba  so you can download, but not open the zip file?
[23:56] <InQuIrI> i just downloaded a file but i don't know where the file was saved
[23:56] <InQuIrI> how to get the file?
[23:56] <baba> hello InQ
[23:57] <InQuIrI> how to find the file?
[23:57] <baba> thats it MD
[23:57] <urielvigilant> VLC come with this kin of errors , but ir open the DVDmenu , where we see DVD options... trials... see movie.. etc but after that give me this kind of error :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461239/
[23:57] <MonkeyDust> InQuIrI  in a terminal, type     locate [file]
[23:58] <Beldar> urielvigilant, When you were on earlier you followed the bots dvd info right? including libdvdread4 and the wget of the libcss2 soemthing like that?
[23:58] <Beldar> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh this
[23:59] <InQuIrI> i got this:
[23:59] <InQuIrI> The program 'locate' can be found in the following packages:
[23:59] <CAP5158> yoo
[23:59] <InQuIrI>  * mlocate
[23:59] <InQuIrI>  * locate
[23:59] <FloodBot1> InQuIrI: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <rjzell> can anyone help me with this issue?
[23:59] <Hai_Karate> I cant play dvds untill i install libdvdread4 etc