manchickenHow'd the squishin' go today?02:05
ScottKmanchicken: They were doing something.  Not sure how much got achieved.  shadeslayer had a qapt question though.  If he's around, maybe he can ask it.02:20
manchickenI'd be happy to try to ask.02:20
manchickenErr, answer02:20
ScottKUnfortunately he didn't leave the actual question.02:20
manchickenToo quiet.03:54
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lordievaderGood morning.07:34
cortexA9what about kde 4.11.8008:05
yofel~mostly done08:15
yofelit will be done today08:15
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cortexA9so kde 4.11.95 it's planned ?08:25
jmuxMorning - BSP is already open, breakfast ready.08:25
yofelwe'll get to .95 once .80 is uploaded08:30
cortexA9ok yofel08:32
Riddellguten morgen09:22
apacheloggeryou just said gyten morgen :P09:22
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Beastie Squishing | #savetheday party 19:50UTC | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.80 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-munich
ovidiu-florinhello world09:31
* Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/11/23/savetheday-party-1950utc-kubuntu-devel09:36
Riddellshadeslayer: ping!09:47
Riddellwake up!09:51
* Riddell fixes okular09:54
Riddelland nepomuk-core09:55
yofelI'm on kdelibs09:55
yofelso nice that cmake was updated in the middle of the 4.11.80 work...09:55
Riddelland you beat me on nepomuk-core09:55
yofelwell, that failed to build ;P09:56
apacheloggerkubotu: order captain for shadeslayer09:59
* kubotu adds Captain Morgan Original Spiced Rum and cola in a ice-filled pint glass, garnishes with a lime. Arrrr yer captain co-ho-hola shadeslayer! But watch out that the captain doesn't let the apprentice navigate...09:59
Mamarok_Linuxdaysounds like he had enough of that yesterday already,if he is not yet awake10:02
yofelhe just arrived ^^10:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: why would I want the captain at 11 in the morning10:14
shadeslayerMamarok_Linuxday: nah, I just wake up late10:15
shadeslayerMy firefox ppa is full10:16
shadeslayerFF Y U SO LARGE10:16
* Mamarok_Linuxday waves from Dorbirn to Munich10:18
jussiScottK: nasty....10:32
* shadeslayer waves back to Mamarok_Linuxday10:34
shadeslayerMamarok_Linuxday: wave lag :P10:34
soeegood morning10:45
shadeslayeryofel: amarok doesn't build dep on loudmouth11:01
shadeslayerbut it depends on it, so presumably it's a hard dep11:02
shadeslayerand maybe we should ask upstream if it's required11:02
yofelshadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/a_bd.png11:05
shadeslayeruh okay11:05
shadeslayerI probably need more coffee11:06
* yofel douses coffee over shadeslayer for uploading libkomparediff2 without ppa suffix to the ppa11:15
shadeslayerbah :/11:16
shadeslayeryofel: otoh, I don't see a issue with the package 11:17
shadeslayerso it's perfect :P11:17
yofelbreaks/replaces on kompare were missing11:17
shadeslayerprobably because I modified kompare later on ...11:17
shadeslayeryofel: anything else broken?11:18
yofelonly thing that came up in my upgrade test just now11:18
yofelso I think we're mostly good to go11:18
shadeslayeryofel: can you make sure kde-full installs11:18
yofelgood idea11:18
yofelshadeslayer: seems to work11:21
yofelI will go and make sure meta-kde hardcodes kde-workspace to 4.11 though11:22
jussishadeslayer: I was thinking about it... the only apply would be fine if it is a part of system settings, as then you have the back button in top left corner.11:35
yofellet me actually change libkomparediff2 to use dhmk so we get lintian and list-missing checking11:40
ovidiu-florinRiddell: this still happens: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16183011:48
ubottuKDE bug 161830 in KDE4 (cmake) "QT_QT_INCLUDE_DIR could not be set" [Normal,Resolved: invalid]11:48
ovidiu-florinjussi: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16183011:50
ubottuKDE bug 161830 in KDE4 (cmake) "QT_QT_INCLUDE_DIR could not be set" [Normal,Resolved: invalid]11:50
yofelso, any volunteers to package this for kstars?    * astrometry.net  <http://www.astrometry.net>11:54
yofelit has a configure file that echo's "OK", only builds in place and that's where I stopped testing it11:54
shadeslayeryofel: yeah, lets not keep blocking on that, maybe we can talk to maxxy about that11:56
yofelok, I'm waiting for the last build of libkomparediff2 to finish, then we're done I think11:58
shadeslayeryofel: maybe once 4.11.80 is done, I can upload 4.11.9511:58
yofelshouldn't we like release 4.11.80?11:58
shadeslayerthat's what I was saying :)11:58
shadeslayeri.e. 4.11.80 in the archive11:59
yofelright, sure 11:59
shadeslayerthen upload 4.11.9511:59
yofelI'll copy the ninja packages to the beta ppa so people can try it until we have stuff in the archive11:59
yofelok, lkd publishing....12:00
shadeslayerawesome :)12:00
yofelQuintasan: hi, any kubuntu merchandize you would like to see?12:00
yofel(no, fezes are not an option it seems)12:01
Sputhmm, somehow I'm sitting in a room full of kubuntu guys.12:01
QuintasanSput: That's a good thing12:04
QuintasanKubuntu guys are awesome12:05
Quintasanyofel: I'd like a badge!12:05
yofeljussi: ^12:05
QuintasanWe also finally need the business cards sorted out -_-12:06
* yofel cleans up the beta ppa a bit12:06
soeeyofel, so you will release 4.12 beta today ? :)12:07
yofelyes, in an ~hour or so12:08
yofelhm, so I managed to completely empty the beta ppa, only kde and amarok in it for 3 releases12:13
Riddellyofel: lovely12:13
yofelok, one last upgrade test12:18
yofelnow to break my notebook12:21
yofellet me actually do the upgrade with muon-updater ^^12:25
yofelno, actually not12:26
yofeloh wait, after 2 minutes it showed up - frozen12:26
yofelhm, SIGKILL it is12:27
yofelnow it worked12:30
yofeland reminded me that I wanted to rebuild phonon-backend-vlc12:30
Riddellovidiu-florin: ovidiub1312:30
yofeloh, we have phonon-backend-vlc in trusty-proposed which is in depwait on libphonon-dev >= 4:4.7.012:33
yofelshadeslayer: I nominate you to merge phonon 4.7 from debian12:35
ovidiu-florinHow do I get coloured text in MoinMoin?12:50
ovidiu-florinDoes MoinMoin have a restore function, in case my modifications are not good?12:51
yofelit does have a history12:52
Riddellcoloured text: dunno if you can12:52
Riddellrestore yes you can look at the history, dunno if you can restore directly12:52
yofelbah, kdepimlibs-dbg and kdepim-runtime-dbg conflict too :S12:52
shadeslayerah, probably because of akonadi2xml 12:56
yofelbuild up12:56
yofelok, I think I managed to upgrade everything without vlc13:08
yofel-> reboot ^^13:08
yofelit's alive \o/13:11
yofelshadeslayer: do you want to do any tests? If not we can upload after lunch I think13:11
shadeslayeryofel: can you check what happens with the wallet for a new user13:12
shadeslayeri.e start new user -> try and add a im account13:12
shadeslayerdoes that bring up the wallet13:12
ovidiu-florinso far...13:22
BluesKajHey folks13:22
ovidiu-florinRiddell: http://akismet.com/?return=true for wire13:25
Riddellnever call me English :)13:31
BluesKajRiddell., British ?13:32
Mamarok_Linuxdayguys, could you update your news on the website about KDE 4.11.3? The last is about Kubuntu Türkiye13:32
Mamarok_Linuxdayand 4.11.3 s in the ppa since several days already13:32
Mamarok_LinuxdayBluesKaj: Scottish13:32
BluesKajAye Laddie ! :)13:33
* jalcine always wanted to travel to Scotland.13:34
* BluesKaj has some scots blood in him , an forefather was scots13:38
yofelshadeslayer: mind me uploading to trusty?14:01
shadeslayeryofel: go ahead :)14:01
shadeslayeryofel: though you might want to do it on a ethernet connection14:02
shadeslayeryofel: though we might want to investigate the kwallet issue14:02
yofelshadeslayer: we can do that in the archive and fix it in 9514:02
yofeland so far wireless is great for me here ^^14:02
shadeslayerfine with me then14:03
* BluesKaj doesn't miss kwallet :)14:04
ovidiu-florinthe ubuntu download page recommends 64bit downloads. should we do the same?14:09
yofelthe point with that was IIRC that only amd64 supports UEFI or something like that14:10
ovidiu-florinwhen trying to download an Ubuntu ISO, it takes me to a donation page14:11
ovidiu-florinand a small link that takes me to the actual download14:11
yofelhm, a few bzr branches are out of sync :(14:17
yofelshadeslayer: could you please get used to work from bzr to package instead of the other way around? Then you might not forget to commit your changes all the time -.-14:23
shadeslayeryofel: what's missing?14:24
yofelBy now I had to sync cantor, gwenview and kalgebra14:24
shadeslayeryofel: just changelog issues?14:25
yofelno, missing install file, missing patch, missing the whole change14:25
shadeslayerHow did this happen, I *remember* updating bzr14:32
shadeslayercantor is just a whitespace change in the install files14:33
yofelshadeslayer: see commit before that14:33
shadeslayerno clue why it didn't add the file14:36
shadeslayeryofel: anything else so far?14:36
yofelpull-ppa-source got stuck so I'm re-running14:36
yofelakonadi is broken :S14:36
yofelit's starting an akonadiserver session that kmail doesn't connect to, it starts its own which fails because the mysql db is already locked14:37
yofelif I kill the old session it works14:37
shadeslayerthe wifi is so slow :(14:39
apacheloggerScottK: bug 1068305 what to do14:43
ubottubug 1068305 in quassel (Ubuntu) "Channel switching extremely slow on first access to channel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106830514:43
yofelkdeplasma-addons 4.11.80 is missing14:48
shadeslayerwhat, no, I distinctly remember fixing that14:51
jussiIm just waiting for him to notice it.... :P14:51
yofelwell, the bzr branch looks fixed14:51
yofelit's just not in the ppa14:51
yofelI'm building it here14:51
yofelsadly that crashes kubuntu-archive-upload ^^14:52
yofellet me actually fix *that*14:52
yofelacutually no, that should never happen14:53
Riddellwhat does +q mean?14:53
jussiaww, old syntax14:54
Riddellwhat does +q mean?14:54
jussinothing anymore, it used to silence you :P14:55
jussiold alias14:55
Riddellblooding Swedish people14:55
jussiyeah, they are annoying :P14:55
ovidiu-florinERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found14:56
ovidiu-florinI'm missing a package, but not sure which one14:56
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: kdelibs5-dev14:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmix/+bug/109124914:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 1091249 in kmix (Ubuntu) "Can't switch to HDMI Audio " [Undecided,New]14:58
shadeslayercan you poke at that bug14:59
apacheloggernot filed on bko, bug doesn't exist14:59
apacheloggerRiddell: what do I do with plasma-facebook bugs15:01
yofelok, kdeplasma-addons looks fine15:02
yofelnow to wait a few minutes until I can pull it from the ppa15:04
Riddellapachelogger: send upstream? fix them?15:05
apacheloggerRiddell: there is no upstream15:06
apacheloggerbug 50590615:06
ubottubug 505906 in plasma-widget-facebook (Ubuntu) "plasma-widget-facebook empty after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50590615:06
apacheloggershits broken15:06
shadeslayeryou're broken15:11
apacheloggerbug 82739515:14
ubottubug 827395 in ark (Ubuntu) "Ark cannot find program 7z in PATH" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82739515:15
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1254276] qt4-linguist-tools should depend on qtchooser @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1254276 (by Daniel Lintott)15:16
shadeslayeryofel: how goes 4.12?15:24
yofelat kde-wallpapers now15:24
shadeslayerI upgraded to 4.12 works fine so far15:24
yofelI'm doing the boost transition in neon4 while waiting15:24
* shadeslayer investigates kwallet stuff15:26
ovidiu-florinPlease give me some feedback on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Installation/DiskSetup15:41
ovidiu-florinapachelogger: I tried out ufw-kde, kind of... are there some specific things that I should test?15:58
Riddelldoes it work?16:00
ovidiu-florinRiddell: yes16:01
Riddellshadeslayer: https://trello.com/c/k2vjJPDc/71-patch-powerdevil-to-accept-logind-version16:04
ovidiu-florinRiddell: it works, could use some improvements, but it works16:05
ovidiu-florinshould I package it?16:05
Riddellovidiu-florin: sure16:05
Riddellplenty people to help if you are unsure how to start a package :)16:05
ScottKapachelogger: Wait for Sput to fix it, I guess.16:07
soeeok so is it safe to tets 4.12 beta from backports ?16:10
yofelsoee: the trusty packages should be safe to use16:11
SputScottK: cannot reproduce, and seems to be (iiuc) a distro-release specific issue, not dependent on the Quassel version?16:11
yofelme and shadeslayer are running them and the systems still live ^^16:12
soee:P 16:12
soeewhat about saucy ?16:12
SputScottK: so I guess it's rather some change in Qt that makes regex processing slow or something16:12
yofelsoee: not before .9516:12
yofel.95 is more important than backporting .8016:12
shadeslayerafiestas: https://trello.com/c/k2vjJPDc/71-patch-powerdevil-to-accept-logind-version16:13
shadeslayerafiestas: plz provide patch :)16:13
apacheloggerRiddell: oversize fixed16:14
soeeyofel, yuo are running trusty ?16:14
yofelbuggy - if that's what you intend to ask ^^16:15
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yofelsubprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['pull-ppa-source', '-d', 'kubuntu-ninjas/ppa', 'mplayerthumbs', 'trusty']' returned non-zero exit status 216:16
apacheloggerRiddell: why do we have kexi on the iso?16:16
yofeldo we care about mplayerthumbs?16:16
yofelhm, it is in the archive :S16:17
Riddellapachelogger: because we wanted to have calligra but it wasn't good enough so we kept the bits of calligra which are better than the libreoffice equivalents16:17
apacheloggerlibreoffice-base-core              | libreoffice                    | libreoffice-writer                    | Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>               |          687698 |            260616:19
apacheloggerRiddell: I guess libreoffice didn't get that memo16:19
shadeslayerrdieter: pingly16:26
shadeslayerrdieter: does http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/kde-runtime.git/tree/kde-runtime-initial_passwordless_kwallet_option.patch cleanly apply for your packages?16:26
Riddellvalorie: ping16:31
rdietershadeslayer: yes, to 4.11.x at least (needs rebasing for 4.11.9x)16:36
shadeslayeryep, 4.11.9x is what I was asking about16:37
shadeslayerbecause it seems to be in your 4.11.95 tree16:37
rdietershadeslayer: I was about to work on that, may as well do it now16:37
shadeslayerbut it doesn't apply to my 4.11.80 / 4.11.95 source16:37
shadeslayerrdieter: I don't suppose you have a reabased one lying around ^_^16:39
rdieternot yet, that's what I'm working on.  i'll let you know when I have something16:39
rdieter(hopefully shouldn't take more than ~15 minutes or so)16:39
shadeslayeroh awesome, plz share when you have a rebased patch16:39
shadeslayerhurray for delegating work to Fedora :P16:40
rdieterick, the part the doesn't apply is a bit ugly, this may take a little longer16:42
* rdieter shakes fist @ upstream for not accepting this16:43
shadeslayeryeah :P16:43
shadeslayerjussi: http://pastebin.kde.org/pjz6ht55316:50
jussithanks shadeslayer17:03
yofelkubuntu-archive-upload finished17:10
* shadeslayer starts on 4.11.9517:14
soeestart ! :D17:25
yofelshadeslayer: done, start!17:28
shadeslayeryofel: running script17:33
apacheloggerI AM SO NERVOUS ALREADY18:22
apachelogger!find libsane-plustek.so.118:23
ubottuFile libsane-plustek.so.1 found in libsane, libsane-dbg18:24
* Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/11/23/kubuntu-photo-munich-bsp18:32
apacheloggerbug 122078018:32
ubottubug 1220780 in libbluedevil (Ubuntu) "Please update libbluedevil to 1.9.4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122078018:33
jussihehe: http://imgur.com/p4SU718:36
Riddellovidiu-florin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6465054/18:57
Riddellhttps://plus.google.com/photos/+MarcoMartin/albums/5949207365739843169/5949207367837810482?pid=5949207367837810482&oid=113935986078304377737  what is it?18:58
Riddellhi littlegirl 19:01
ovidiu-florinRiddell: you scared her19:01
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ScottKSput: OK.  I'll try it again and see if I still have a problem.  Thanks for checking.19:20
manchickenScottK: Did you say last night that someone had a question for me?19:23
ScottKmanchicken: shadeslayer had a qapt question.19:23
shadeslayerDoctor Who time, tomorrow?19:24
shadeslayerbut feel free to ask19:24
manchickenshadeslayer: Right now19:28
* manchicken is sad since it isn't streaming online.19:28
shadeslayermanchicken: ssup19:29
shadeslayerwhats the issue?19:29
yofelok done, everyone happy with me replacing http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu with http://www.kubuntu.org/content/download-new ?19:30
shadeslayerlooks good to me19:30
manchickenshadeslayer: Howdy19:38
manchickenI don't have cable, nor do I live in the UK.19:38
yofelnew page now online as http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu19:47
manchickenshadeslayer: Did you have a libqapt question?19:47
yofelplease someone check if everything's ~ok19:47
shadeslayermanchicken: do you have a server in the UK?19:53
shadeslayermanchicken: then : ssh -ND 8000 user@server 19:53
shadeslayerthen set the socks proxy in firefox to localhost , port 800019:54
shadeslayerand voila19:54
shadeslayer( note, just the socks proxy, nothing else )19:54
yofelCould a MOTU please upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/tmp/libkomparediff2_4.11.80-0ubuntu1.dsc please?19:55
manchickenThen just go to the site?19:56
* manchicken IS WATCHING DOCTOR!!!19:56
ovidiu-florinMunich is watching the Doctor19:57
soeePoland is waiting for KDE 4.12 saucy :<19:57
shadeslayermanchicken: yep20:02
manchickenOooh, they just burned America.20:28
* ScottK looks around.20:32
ScottKIt's still here.20:32
ScottKDid some 4.12 beta New stuff.20:41
ScottKRiddell: Someone needs to look at marble.  The libmarblewidget17 so naming is messed up.  Rejecting.20:42
yofelScottK: upstream .80:20:53
yofelset(GENERIC_LIB_VERSION "0.16.80")20:53
yofelset(GENERIC_LIB_SOVERSION "17")20:53
apacheloggerafter party21:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: They didn't introduce the new doctor!!!21:06
apacheloggercuz xmas21:06
shadeslayeroh right21:07
apacheloggeralso stop spoilering21:07
manchickenThat was a lot of fun.21:09
RiddellI wanted more of the 8th doctor, he was my first 21:09
manchicken9th was my favorite.21:11
manchickenAww, BBC does the same thing that American TV does... the whole overuse of Twitter thing.21:17
yofelScottK: seems like upstream only half-heartedly updated marble. .95 has .16.85 has lib version21:27
yofelis that a problem though? The soname is correct21:28
manchickenSingle point in time21:33
valorieovidiu-florin: awesome on the installation docs21:50
valoriehowever, I think we should point to some more detailed stuff for the manual part21:50
valorieand Riddell: pong21:51
valoriewatching day of the doctor in a few mins....21:52
ovidiu-florinvalorie: I'll keep that in mind21:52
valoriehappy to see no spoilers yet21:52
valorieI did find one typo21:52
valorielesse if I can get rekonq to work21:52
valoriedamn it, it won't allow me to login; or rather I login, but then am asked to login again21:59
* yofel changed the colors of those seperation bars to grey22:00
yofel(on the download page)22:00
yofelIMO that fits better into the template22:01
yofelanyone disagree?22:01
valorieyofel: which page?22:08
yofelvalorie: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu 22:08
valorieI like it22:09
valoriewhen are you folks taking off to see the Day of the Doctor?22:10
Riddellvalorie: hmm, I wanted to talk to you about something22:13
Riddellvalorie: it was actually about romanian translations22:14
valoriewell, until we get out of moinmoin, I can see translations only happening to the docbook stuff22:19
valoriebecause from docbook there are translation tools22:19
valorieso I guess I should write that email I promised yesterday22:20
Riddellvalorie: nah it's a social issue, was wondering from a CWG perspective22:20
valoriesocial issue in what way?22:20
soeeRiddell, <mokush> what's with the "#savetheday party" announcements? @#kubuntu22:20
Riddellovidiu-florin says romanian has only 1 person active and he's not wanting to take his contributions because that guy uses the communist spelling and he uses the contempory spelling22:21
Riddellsoee: wasn't it awesome?22:21
valoriethe only issues I know about are the efforts to unite the wiki translators with the rest of the KDE translation teams22:21
valorieoh, urgh22:21
Riddellvalorie: but I've talked a bit with albert and advised him to get some commits in so he can get an svn account and get more in then he can fix the politics22:22
ovidiu-florinsoee: already talked with him22:22
ovidiu-florinwith mokush22:22
soeeovidiu-florin, ok thanks for an answer :)22:22
valorieovidiu-florin: could you please write to community-wg@kde.org about this?22:23
valoriebecause CWG may have some help for *all* the teams about issues like this22:23
valorieno hurry on that22:23
shadeslayerrdieter: any news on that patch ? :)22:34
rdietershadeslayer: here's what I have to far, http://paste.fedoraproject.org/56327/2460851322:35
rdieterit compiles, haven't done any runtime testing yet22:35
valorieok, I can't keep from watching the day of the doctor any longer22:39
valoriebe back in a while22:39
Quintasanjussi: I'm organising Linux-related conference at my university, think it's good enough to hand people some Kubuntu stickers?22:44
apacheloggeri386 queue >=6hrs hooray22:53
=== Mamarok_Linuxday is now known as Mamarok
apacheloggeragateau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6466286/ do you approve?23:51

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