[02:05] How'd the squishin' go today? [02:20] manchicken: They were doing something. Not sure how much got achieved. shadeslayer had a qapt question though. If he's around, maybe he can ask it. [02:20] I'd be happy to try to ask. [02:20] Err, answer [02:20] Unfortunately he didn't leave the actual question. [02:21] Sadness [03:54] Quiet [03:54] Too quiet. === TheDrums is now known as DalekSec === bedahr_ is now known as bedahr [07:34] Good morning. [07:46] hello [08:05] what about kde 4.11.80 [08:15] ~mostly done [08:15] it will be done today [08:15] cool [08:15] yofel [08:15] :) === Mamarok is now known as Mamarok_Linuxday [08:25] so kde 4.11.95 it's planned ? [08:25] Morning - BSP is already open, breakfast ready. [08:27] morning [08:30] we'll get to .95 once .80 is uploaded [08:32] ok yofel [09:22] guten morgen [09:22] you just said gyten morgen :P === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu Beastie Squishing | #savetheday party 19:50UTC | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.80 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-munich [09:31] hello world [09:36] * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/11/23/savetheday-party-1950utc-kubuntu-devel [09:47] shadeslayer: ping! [09:51] wake up! [09:54] * Riddell fixes okular [09:55] and nepomuk-core [09:55] I'm on kdelibs [09:55] so nice that cmake was updated in the middle of the 4.11.80 work... [09:55] and you beat me on nepomuk-core [09:56] well, that failed to build ;P [09:59] kubotu: order captain for shadeslayer [09:59] * kubotu adds Captain Morgan Original Spiced Rum and cola in a ice-filled pint glass, garnishes with a lime. Arrrr yer captain co-ho-hola shadeslayer! But watch out that the captain doesn't let the apprentice navigate... [10:00] ^^ [10:02] sounds like he had enough of that yesterday already,if he is not yet awake [10:05] he just arrived ^^ [10:14] apachelogger: why would I want the captain at 11 in the morning [10:15] Mamarok_Linuxday: nah, I just wake up late [10:16] :( [10:16] My firefox ppa is full [10:16] FF Y U SO LARGE [10:18] * Mamarok_Linuxday waves from Dorbirn to Munich [10:32] ScottK: nasty.... [10:34] * shadeslayer waves back to Mamarok_Linuxday [10:34] Mamarok_Linuxday: wave lag :P [10:45] good morning [11:01] yofel: amarok doesn't build dep on loudmouth [11:02] but it depends on it, so presumably it's a hard dep [11:02] and maybe we should ask upstream if it's required [11:05] shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/a_bd.png [11:05] uh okay [11:06] I probably need more coffee [11:15] * yofel douses coffee over shadeslayer for uploading libkomparediff2 without ppa suffix to the ppa [11:16] bah :/ [11:17] yofel: otoh, I don't see a issue with the package [11:17] so it's perfect :P [11:17] breaks/replaces on kompare were missing [11:17] ah [11:17] probably because I modified kompare later on ... [11:18] yofel: anything else broken? [11:18] only thing that came up in my upgrade test just now [11:18] so I think we're mostly good to go [11:18] okay [11:18] yofel: can you make sure kde-full installs [11:18] good idea [11:21] shadeslayer: seems to work [11:22] I will go and make sure meta-kde hardcodes kde-workspace to 4.11 though [11:26] cool [11:26] thx [11:35] shadeslayer: I was thinking about it... the only apply would be fine if it is a part of system settings, as then you have the back button in top left corner. [11:40] let me actually change libkomparediff2 to use dhmk so we get lintian and list-missing checking [11:48] Riddell: this still happens: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161830 [11:48] KDE bug 161830 in KDE4 (cmake) "QT_QT_INCLUDE_DIR could not be set" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] [11:50] jussi: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161830 [11:50] KDE bug 161830 in KDE4 (cmake) "QT_QT_INCLUDE_DIR could not be set" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] [11:54] so, any volunteers to package this for kstars? * astrometry.net [11:54] it has a configure file that echo's "OK", only builds in place and that's where I stopped testing it [11:56] yofel: yeah, lets not keep blocking on that, maybe we can talk to maxxy about that [11:58] ok, I'm waiting for the last build of libkomparediff2 to finish, then we're done I think [11:58] cool [11:58] yofel: maybe once 4.11.80 is done, I can upload 4.11.95 [11:58] shouldn't we like release 4.11.80? [11:58] that's what I was saying :) [11:59] i.e. 4.11.80 in the archive [11:59] right, sure [11:59] then upload 4.11.95 [11:59] \o [11:59] I'll copy the ninja packages to the beta ppa so people can try it until we have stuff in the archive [12:00] ok, lkd publishing.... [12:00] awesome :) [12:00] Quintasan: hi, any kubuntu merchandize you would like to see? [12:01] (no, fezes are not an option it seems) [12:01] hmm, somehow I'm sitting in a room full of kubuntu guys. [12:04] lol [12:04] Sput: That's a good thing [12:05] Kubuntu guys are awesome [12:05] yofel: I'd like a badge! [12:05] jussi: ^ [12:06] We also finally need the business cards sorted out -_- [12:06] * yofel cleans up the beta ppa a bit [12:07] yofel, so you will release 4.12 beta today ? :) [12:08] yes, in an ~hour or so [12:13] hm, so I managed to completely empty the beta ppa, only kde and amarok in it for 3 releases [12:13] yofel: lovely [12:18] ok, one last upgrade test [12:21] success [12:21] now to break my notebook [12:25] let me actually do the upgrade with muon-updater ^^ [12:25] uhm [12:26] no, actually not [12:26] oh wait, after 2 minutes it showed up - frozen [12:27] hm, SIGKILL it is [12:29] :S [12:30] now it worked [12:30] and reminded me that I wanted to rebuild phonon-backend-vlc [12:30] ovidiu-florin: ovidiub13 [12:33] oh, we have phonon-backend-vlc in trusty-proposed which is in depwait on libphonon-dev >= 4:4.7.0 [12:35] shadeslayer: I nominate you to merge phonon 4.7 from debian [12:40] heh [12:50] How do I get coloured text in MoinMoin? [12:51] Does MoinMoin have a restore function, in case my modifications are not good? [12:52] it does have a history [12:52] coloured text: dunno if you can [12:52] restore yes you can look at the history, dunno if you can restore directly [12:52] bah, kdepimlibs-dbg and kdepim-runtime-dbg conflict too :S [12:56] ah, probably because of akonadi2xml [12:56] right [12:56] build up [12:56] cool [13:08] ok, I think I managed to upgrade everything without vlc [13:08] -> reboot ^^ [13:11] it's alive \o/ [13:11] shadeslayer: do you want to do any tests? If not we can upload after lunch I think [13:12] yofel: can you check what happens with the wallet for a new user [13:12] i.e start new user -> try and add a im account [13:12] does that bring up the wallet [13:21] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Installation/DiskSetup [13:21] opinions? [13:22] so far... [13:22] Hey folks [13:25] Riddell: http://akismet.com/?return=true for wire [13:31] never call me English :) [13:32] Riddell., British ? [13:32] :) [13:32] guys, could you update your news on the website about KDE 4.11.3? The last is about Kubuntu Türkiye [13:32] and 4.11.3 s in the ppa since several days already [13:32] BluesKaj: Scottish [13:33] Aye Laddie ! :) [13:34] * jalcine always wanted to travel to Scotland. [13:38] * BluesKaj has some scots blood in him , an forefather was scots [14:01] shadeslayer: mind me uploading to trusty? [14:01] yofel: go ahead :) [14:02] yofel: though you might want to do it on a ethernet connection [14:02] yofel: though we might want to investigate the kwallet issue [14:02] shadeslayer: we can do that in the archive and fix it in 95 [14:02] and so far wireless is great for me here ^^ [14:03] :) [14:03] fine with me then [14:04] * BluesKaj doesn't miss kwallet :) [14:09] the ubuntu download page recommends 64bit downloads. should we do the same? [14:10] the point with that was IIRC that only amd64 supports UEFI or something like that [14:11] when trying to download an Ubuntu ISO, it takes me to a donation page [14:11] and a small link that takes me to the actual download [14:17] hm, a few bzr branches are out of sync :( [14:22] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/upstart-devel/2013-November/002942.html [14:23] shadeslayer: could you please get used to work from bzr to package instead of the other way around? Then you might not forget to commit your changes all the time -.- [14:24] yofel: what's missing? [14:24] By now I had to sync cantor, gwenview and kalgebra [14:25] yofel: just changelog issues? [14:25] no, missing install file, missing patch, missing the whole change [14:28] o_o [14:32] argh [14:32] How did this happen, I *remember* updating bzr [14:33] cantor is just a whitespace change in the install files [14:33] http://penta.debconf.org/dc13_schedule/events/983.en.html [14:33] shadeslayer: see commit before that [14:33] whaaaaaa [14:36] sigh [14:36] no clue why it didn't add the file [14:36] yofel: anything else so far? [14:36] pull-ppa-source got stuck so I'm re-running [14:36] akonadi is broken :S [14:37] it's starting an akonadiserver session that kmail doesn't connect to, it starts its own which fails because the mysql db is already locked [14:37] if I kill the old session it works [14:39] the wifi is so slow :( [14:43] ScottK: bug 1068305 what to do [14:43] bug 1068305 in quassel (Ubuntu) "Channel switching extremely slow on first access to channel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068305 [14:47] uh... [14:48] kdeplasma-addons 4.11.80 is missing [14:49] lol [14:51] what, no, I distinctly remember fixing that [14:51] Im just waiting for him to notice it.... :P [14:51] heh [14:51] well, the bzr branch looks fixed [14:51] it's just not in the ppa [14:51] I'm building it here [14:52] :S [14:52] sadly that crashes kubuntu-archive-upload ^^ [14:52] let me actually fix *that* [14:53] acutually no, that should never happen [14:53] hey! [14:53] ^^ [14:53] what does +q mean? [14:54] aww, old syntax [14:54] what does +q mean? [14:55] nothing anymore, it used to silence you :P [14:55] old alias [14:55] oy! [14:55] blooding Swedish people [14:55] yeah, they are annoying :P [14:56] ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found [14:56] I'm missing a package, but not sure which one [14:56] ovidiu-florin: kdelibs5-dev [14:56] thanks [14:58] apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmix/+bug/1091249 [14:58] Ubuntu bug 1091249 in kmix (Ubuntu) "Can't switch to HDMI Audio " [Undecided,New] [14:58] ? [14:59] can you poke at that bug [14:59] no? [14:59] not filed on bko, bug doesn't exist [15:01] Riddell: what do I do with plasma-facebook bugs [15:02] ok, kdeplasma-addons looks fine [15:03] cool [15:04] now to wait a few minutes until I can pull it from the ppa [15:05] apachelogger: send upstream? fix them? [15:06] Riddell: there is no upstream [15:06] bug 505906 [15:06] bug 505906 in plasma-widget-facebook (Ubuntu) "plasma-widget-facebook empty after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/505906 [15:06] shits broken [15:11] you're broken [15:14] bug 827395 [15:15] bug 827395 in ark (Ubuntu) "Ark cannot find program 7z in PATH" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827395 [15:16] ::qt-bugs:: [1254276] qt4-linguist-tools should depend on qtchooser @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1254276 (by Daniel Lintott) [15:24] yofel: how goes 4.12? [15:24] running [15:24] at kde-wallpapers now [15:24] cool [15:24] I upgraded to 4.12 works fine so far [15:24] I'm doing the boost transition in neon4 while waiting [15:26] ack [15:26] * shadeslayer investigates kwallet stuff [15:41] Please give me some feedback on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Installation/DiskSetup [15:58] apachelogger: I tried out ufw-kde, kind of... are there some specific things that I should test? [16:00] does it work? [16:01] Riddell: yes [16:01] sorted [16:04] shadeslayer: https://trello.com/c/k2vjJPDc/71-patch-powerdevil-to-accept-logind-version [16:05] Riddell: it works, could use some improvements, but it works [16:05] should I package it? [16:05] ovidiu-florin: sure [16:05] plenty people to help if you are unsure how to start a package :) [16:07] apachelogger: Wait for Sput to fix it, I guess. [16:10] ok so is it safe to tets 4.12 beta from backports ? [16:11] soee: the trusty packages should be safe to use [16:11] ScottK: cannot reproduce, and seems to be (iiuc) a distro-release specific issue, not dependent on the Quassel version? [16:12] me and shadeslayer are running them and the systems still live ^^ [16:12] :P [16:12] what about saucy ? [16:12] ScottK: so I guess it's rather some change in Qt that makes regex processing slow or something [16:12] soee: not before .95 [16:12] :( [16:12] .95 is more important than backporting .80 [16:13] afiestas: https://trello.com/c/k2vjJPDc/71-patch-powerdevil-to-accept-logind-version [16:13] afiestas: plz provide patch :) [16:14] Riddell: oversize fixed [16:14] yofel, yuo are running trusty ? [16:15] yes [16:15] buggy - if that's what you intend to ask ^^ [16:15] :) === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [16:16] subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['pull-ppa-source', '-d', 'kubuntu-ninjas/ppa', 'mplayerthumbs', 'trusty']' returned non-zero exit status 2 [16:16] Riddell: why do we have kexi on the iso? [16:16] do we care about mplayerthumbs? [16:17] hm, it is in the archive :S [16:17] apachelogger: because we wanted to have calligra but it wasn't good enough so we kept the bits of calligra which are better than the libreoffice equivalents [16:19] libreoffice-base-core | libreoffice | libreoffice-writer | Ubuntu Developers | 687698 | 2606 [16:19] Riddell: I guess libreoffice didn't get that memo [16:26] rdieter: pingly [16:26] rdieter: does http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/kde-runtime.git/tree/kde-runtime-initial_passwordless_kwallet_option.patch cleanly apply for your packages? [16:31] valorie: ping [16:36] shadeslayer: yes, to 4.11.x at least (needs rebasing for 4.11.9x) [16:37] yep, 4.11.9x is what I was asking about [16:37] because it seems to be in your 4.11.95 tree [16:37] shadeslayer: I was about to work on that, may as well do it now [16:37] but it doesn't apply to my 4.11.80 / 4.11.95 source [16:39] rdieter: I don't suppose you have a reabased one lying around ^_^ [16:39] not yet, that's what I'm working on. i'll let you know when I have something [16:39] (hopefully shouldn't take more than ~15 minutes or so) [16:39] oh awesome, plz share when you have a rebased patch [16:40] hurray for delegating work to Fedora :P [16:42] ick, the part the doesn't apply is a bit ugly, this may take a little longer [16:43] * rdieter shakes fist @ upstream for not accepting this [16:43] yeah :P [16:50] jussi: http://pastebin.kde.org/pjz6ht553 [17:03] thanks shadeslayer [17:07] np [17:10] kubuntu-archive-upload finished [17:10] FINALLY [17:12] uploading [17:14] :D [17:14] hurray [17:14] * shadeslayer starts on 4.11.95 [17:15] WAIT [17:16] :) [17:25] start ! :D [17:28] shadeslayer: done, start! [17:33] yofel: running script [18:00] http://pastebin.com/ETEYqJ8L [18:22] I AM SO NERVOUS ALREADY [18:23] !find libsane-plustek.so.1 [18:24] File libsane-plustek.so.1 found in libsane, libsane-dbg [18:24] awww [18:32] * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/11/23/kubuntu-photo-munich-bsp [18:32] bug 1220780 [18:33] bug 1220780 in libbluedevil (Ubuntu) "Please update libbluedevil to 1.9.4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220780 [18:36] hehe: http://imgur.com/p4SU7 [18:57] ovidiu-florin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6465054/ [18:58] https://plus.google.com/photos/+MarcoMartin/albums/5949207365739843169/5949207367837810482?pid=5949207367837810482&oid=113935986078304377737 what is it? [18:58] http://makeplaylive.com/ [19:01] hi littlegirl [19:01] Riddell: you scared her === jono is now known as Guest99054 [19:19] Hiya [19:20] Sput: OK. I'll try it again and see if I still have a problem. Thanks for checking. [19:23] ScottK: Did you say last night that someone had a question for me? [19:23] manchicken: shadeslayer had a qapt question. [19:24] Doctor Who time, tomorrow? [19:24] but feel free to ask [19:28] shadeslayer: Right now [19:28] * manchicken is sad since it isn't streaming online. [19:29] manchicken: ssup [19:29] whats the issue? [19:30] ok done, everyone happy with me replacing http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu with http://www.kubuntu.org/content/download-new ? [19:30] looks good to me [19:38] shadeslayer: Howdy [19:38] I don't have cable, nor do I live in the UK. [19:38] :( [19:47] new page now online as http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu [19:47] shadeslayer: Did you have a libqapt question? [19:47] please someone check if everything's ~ok [19:52] nope [19:53] manchicken: do you have a server in the UK? [19:53] manchicken: then : ssh -ND 8000 user@server [19:54] then set the socks proxy in firefox to localhost , port 8000 [19:54] and voila [19:54] ( note, just the socks proxy, nothing else ) [19:55] Could a MOTU please upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/tmp/libkomparediff2_4.11.80-0ubuntu1.dsc please? [19:55] no [19:55] doctor! [19:55] now! [19:56] Then just go to the site? [19:56] * manchicken IS WATCHING DOCTOR!!! [19:57] Munich is watching the Doctor [19:57] Poland is waiting for KDE 4.12 saucy :< [20:02] manchicken: yep [20:02] :)_ [20:28] Oooh, they just burned America. [20:32] * ScottK looks around. [20:32] It's still here. [20:41] Did some 4.12 beta New stuff. [20:42] Riddell: Someone needs to look at marble. The libmarblewidget17 so naming is messed up. Rejecting. [20:47] o.O [20:53] ScottK: upstream .80: [20:53] set(GENERIC_LIB_VERSION "0.16.80") [20:53] set(GENERIC_LIB_SOVERSION "17") [21:06] after party [21:06] whoooo [21:06] :D [21:06] apachelogger: They didn't introduce the new doctor!!! [21:06] Yay!! [21:06] cuz xmas [21:07] oh right [21:07] also stop spoilering [21:07] pft [21:09] awesome! [21:09] That was a lot of fun. [21:09] yeah [21:09] I wanted more of the 8th doctor, he was my first [21:11] 9th was my favorite. [21:17] Aww, BBC does the same thing that American TV does... the whole overuse of Twitter thing. [21:19] http://freecode.com/projects/gosa [21:27] ScottK: seems like upstream only half-heartedly updated marble. .95 has .16.85 has lib version [21:28] is that a problem though? The soname is correct [21:33] LMFAO [21:33] Single point in time [21:50] ovidiu-florin: awesome on the installation docs [21:50] however, I think we should point to some more detailed stuff for the manual part [21:51] and Riddell: pong [21:52] watching day of the doctor in a few mins.... [21:52] valorie: I'll keep that in mind [21:52] happy to see no spoilers yet [21:52] I did find one typo [21:52] lesse if I can get rekonq to work [21:59] damn it, it won't allow me to login; or rather I login, but then am asked to login again [22:00] finally.... [22:00] * yofel changed the colors of those seperation bars to grey [22:00] (on the download page) [22:01] IMO that fits better into the template [22:01] anyone disagree? [22:08] yofel: which page? [22:08] valorie: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu [22:09] I like it [22:10] when are you folks taking off to see the Day of the Doctor? [22:13] valorie: hmm, I wanted to talk to you about something [22:14] valorie: it was actually about romanian translations [22:19] well, until we get out of moinmoin, I can see translations only happening to the docbook stuff [22:19] because from docbook there are translation tools [22:20] so I guess I should write that email I promised yesterday [22:20] valorie: nah it's a social issue, was wondering from a CWG perspective [22:20] social issue in what way? [22:20] Riddell, what's with the "#savetheday party" announcements? @#kubuntu [22:21] ovidiu-florin says romanian has only 1 person active and he's not wanting to take his contributions because that guy uses the communist spelling and he uses the contempory spelling [22:21] soee: wasn't it awesome? [22:21] the only issues I know about are the efforts to unite the wiki translators with the rest of the KDE translation teams [22:21] oh, urgh [22:22]