[00:00] <charlie> InQuIrI: try looking in Downloads directory..
[00:00] <urielvigilant> Beldar: sorry iam newby, onli i installed VLC from software center then reboot
[00:00] <Beldar> some just wont play ever
[00:00] <InQuIrI> charlie: its not there
[00:00] <Beldar> !dvd | urielvigilant
[00:01] <InQuIrI> !locate
[00:01] <drasko> hi all. apt-cache show linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 gives me information Source: linux. How to see which version of linux wil "apt-get source linux" pick?
[00:01] <truebattleaxe> who has mir installed?
[00:02] <MonkeyDust> truebattleaxe  tip: there's also #ubuntu-mir
[00:03] <urielvigilant> !dvd
[00:05] <Hai_Karate> urial- did it work?
[00:07] <DuncanNZ> FuuqUmist: still having the flash problem?
[00:07] <baba> Why can't i open zip files i downloaded while are most ubuntu compatible??
[00:07] <urielvigilant> Thank you very much my friend.... it works m now DVD playing ! you are the MAjor one ! ;o)
[00:08] <Hai_Karate> Good!
[00:08] <maokaii> teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx wont open for some reason
[00:08] <maokaii> it shows the application
[00:08] <maokaii> but wont open
[00:08] <DuncanNZ> baba: what happens when you try to open a zip file?
[00:08] <FloodBot1> maokaii: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <Beldar> baba, Are you sure you even need them, did you check the repos for them?
[00:09] <arvut> if I change keyboard layout with loadkeys, will everyone who logs in via ssh use that layout or use their own?
[00:10] <baba> DuncanNZ...they go to the downloads, but i can't extract them
[00:10] <truebattleaxe> does anyone have mir installed?
[00:10] <DuncanNZ> baba: so when you double click on them in the downloads, does anything happen?
[00:11] <ikonia> truebattleaxe: why don't you just ask the question you want to know the answer to
[00:11] <baba> something pop out to say it caant open the files
[00:11] <ikonia> baba: what are you downloading exactly.
[00:11] <ikonia> baba: please give us a real example
[00:12] <truebattleaxe> my sound card works. then cuts out
[00:12] <baba> a pakage from the fisc
[00:12] <truebattleaxe> would that have to do with mir
[00:12] <ikonia> baba: that makes no sense, please give us a real life example
[00:12] <ikonia> truebattleaxe: doubtful
[00:13] <InQuIrI> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/t7uaxVDG
[00:13] <FuuqUmist> DuncanNZ yeah it sucks, i can't get it to work
[00:13] <urielvigilant> Hai_Karate : Thanks Thanks and thanks you again , about that master Karate movement you teach me. after i installed Restrictec and VLC i still not able to play DVD, but after i typed what you teach: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 , i discovered that it was already instaled , but then i typed what you said : sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh , then i sudo apt-get update ,.......
[00:13] <urielvigilant> ......then sudo reboot.,. then guess , now YESSS DVD working perffectly ! Thank you very much! HAVe a nice nice Weekend.
[00:13] <truebattleaxe> could it be because i am running 14.04?
[00:13] <baba> ikonia.. im in holland and thats what i try to download  http://download.belastingdienst.nl/belastingdienst/apps/linux/ib2012_linux.tar.gz
[00:14] <ikonia> truebattleaxe: seeing how 14.04 is in early development and will have lots of problems during the development process....probably
[00:14] <urielvigilant> lolo i stilll loving Lubuntu 13.10
[00:14] <urielvigilant> Thanks to you community !
[00:14] <truebattleaxe> got it. maybe time to revert back
[00:14] <maokaii> Hello, I'm trying to run teamviewer on ubuntu 12.04, when I click the application it won't run..what do I do?
[00:14] <ikonia> baba: please run the command "file ib2012_linux.tar.gz" against that file
[00:15] <baba> ikonia please tell me what to do then...im not a geek
[00:15] <truebattleaxe> maokaii did you update ?
[00:15] <ikonia> baba: please run the command "file ib2012_linux.tar.gz" against that file
[00:15] <truebattleaxe> sudo apt-get update?
[00:15] <maokaii> truebattleaxe: if u mean sudo apt-get update then yes, but that brought up more problems, maybe I should restart the live ubuntu
[00:16] <truebattleaxe> yes try to reboot
[00:16] <Ben64> maokaii: teamviewer from live cd?
[00:16] <maokaii> Ben64:  yes, live USB same thing
[00:16] <truebattleaxe> **ben64 ive never tried myself
[00:16] <albertusac> how to solve 'firmware upgrade encountered an issue, Please select recovery mode in kies and try again'?
[00:16] <albertusac> I forget to install the samsung usb driver
[00:16] <Ben64> maokaii: can't you use something else? like vnc..?
[00:16] <ikonia> albertusac: not really an ubuntu issue
[00:17] <maokaii> Ben64:  uhh i think so, i dont know of anything else that will let someone control it form a windows machine to a ubuntu machine
[00:17] <stlu> hello, I am looking for a terminal gui for editing mysql tables.
[00:17] <albertusac> oh yea sorry
[00:17] <Ben64> maokaii: vnc does that
[00:17] <albertusac> wrong channel
[00:17] <maokaii> can u link me please?
[00:17] <stlu> is there such a program in the ubuntu repo?
[00:17] <Ben64> !vnc | maokaii
[00:18] <urielvigilant> Today afternoon i was in a friend home, trying to install Lubuntu 13.10 on a ACer 3003 wmli with 1GB ram, from an USb persistent pen drive, but after a few minutes i can reached to the menu : chose to  try or full install. I T staus black screen for a second and all black with mouse pointer in another second . . What could be the cause ?
[00:19] <Palsson> Watch the world first PS4 stream at twitch[dot]com[slash]Palsson123
[00:20] <stlu> urielvigilant: I have seen that black screen when there were errors loading the GUI -- could the USB stick be partially corrupt?
[00:24] <stlu> Does anyone know if such a program exists to view/edit a mysql database in the terminal?  I am thinking of an interface similar to ms-dos lotus123 spreadsheet tool.
[00:25] <urielvigilant> STU do you think so ? I tryed one usb with Lubuntu 13.10 and another Ubuntu 13.10 booth persisten mode,  that actually runs perfectly on my ACer 5204 Wlmi with 2bGB rams
[00:25] <urielvigilant> STU do you think so ? I tryed one usb with Lubuntu 13.10 and another Ubuntu 13.10 booth persisten mode,  that actually runs perfectly on my ACer 5204 Wlmi with 2bGB rams
[00:25] <urielvigilant> STLU
[00:25] <urielvigilant> stlu ; sorry
[00:25] <Ben64> stlu: why not "mysql" ?
[00:26] <stlu> ben64: because 'mysql' is like 'mail' compared to 'alpine'.  I'm just not ready for it, I need a little GUI
[00:26] <ikonia> why not use a proper gui and just connect remotely
[00:27] <ikonia> or learn to use the mysql shell properlyt
[00:27] <ikonia> as you'll waste more time looking for a tool that won't teach you anything or provide any real use outside of your current moment
[00:27] <KeithDou> hi
[00:27] <urielvigilant> stlu : i remeber now that the acer 3003 , was with windows xp and updating and i interrupted it with out vist update complete  , to boot from usb, Do you think that could be the cause ?
[00:28] <maokaii> Ben64: im having a hard time figuring out how to connect to someone's ubuntu system from my computer. I understand I need their IP  and I need to download the client on my computer
[00:28] <maokaii> not sure what else to do
[00:28] <stlu> ikonia: thanks for your advice then.  I'll just throw up a post on the forums and use a X program
[00:28] <stlu> I'm still curious if one exists even if I won't use it.
[00:28] <ikonia> why ?
[00:28] <ikonia> if you're not going to use it, what does it matter, why waste yours/others time
[00:29] <stlu> urielvigilant:  the state of the windows partition could affect the installation, yes.  The mount program can tell if the NTFS partition is unclean.
[00:29] <urielvigilant> stly : should i try an antique version, like Ubuntu or Lubuntu 12. 04 ?
[00:30] <urielvigilant> stlu : should i try an antique version, like Ubuntu or Lubuntu 12. 04 ?
[00:30] <stlu> ikonia: because there may be quick uses that would save me the time of installing a gui client, such as, using putty on a windows box.
[00:30] <urielvigilant> stlu  : ok then i should back there and try again, now after windows update finished
[00:30] <ikonia> stlu: missing the point a bit there,
[00:31] <stlu> urielvigilant: It is worth a try, but it makes no difference if both installers have problems with a corrupt ntfs partition, especially if you are trying to resize  it.
[00:31] <Ben64> maokaii: server needs to be running on the one you want to connect to, you need to forward necessary port(s) and you need the client on the one you want to connect from
[00:31] <stlu> ikonia: no, i'm not.  I know I could use the
[00:31] <maokaii> Ben64:  no easier method?
[00:31] <ikonia> stlu: but you just said "I won't use it"....
[00:32] <stlu> ikonia: no, i'm not.  I know I could use the 'mysql' binary from putty, *if* I learned to use it.
[00:32] <urielvigilant> stlu : installer is an normal usb drive pen persisten 4 GB
[00:32] <Ben64> maokaii: it's pretty easy
[00:32] <urielvigilant> they run perfectly almost fast as in my herdrive in my laptop
[00:33] <stlu> ikonia: if you don't have an answer, then don't waste our time further.  I might use it infrequently, but no point debating the frequency of a program that isn't even known to exist!
[00:34] <ikonia> stlu: I don't really care if you use it or not, I've given you my answer, it's up to you what you do with it, however as even a terminal client will need to connect over a network/loopback address, you may as well just use your client properly and connect remotly than waste time looking for a limited functionality application
[00:34] <gassho> simmer down now
[00:34] <stlu> ikonia: ok.
[00:35] <Simi99> Hey guys, anyone online to help? :)
[00:35] <Ben64> Simi99: there are 1693 people in the channel
[00:35] <geekmasterflash> Simi99: Perhaps.
[00:35] <gassho> hi Simi99
[00:36] <sventon> hi all, I have difficulties to understand how user permissions and account security work. For example if I have two accounts on my machine and run "su name_of_other_acount" I will be promt to give a password for the the other user. Does this not mean that I just can write a script that try all possible password combinations ?
[00:36] <ikonia> sventon: that's called "brute force" you can of course write a script to do that
[00:36] <reisio> sventon: yes if you don't mind waiting potentially longer than a human life span to get it
[00:37] <geekmasterflash> sventon: That could potentially take thousands of years depending on complexity of passwords.
[00:37] <stlu> sventon: there are built-in time delays that would make things slow down and be hard to crack.
[00:37] <reisio> plus there's nothing stopping a system from having a denial system set up
[00:37] <reisio> to only give you a few opportunities
[00:38] <stlu> also, if I recall, Ubuntu doesn't allow use of 'su' without sudo priviliges anyway, while debian does allow it.
[00:39] <Simi99> I'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 8. On Ubuntu, I can acces my windows files on my OS hard drive/users/etc... Is there anyway I can have them directly on my personal folders? I'm using seperate HDD if it's any help! Thank you:)
[00:39] <ikonia> you can use su without sudo
[00:40] <reisio> Simi99: which folders?
[00:40] <Beldar> Simi99, You want to be careful with changing the file system on windows your best having a shared partition.
[00:40] <Simi99> My main folders: Music, Videos, etc.
[00:41] <reisio> Simi99: you want those folders to always be your Windows drive data, or just contain additionally that data?
[00:41] <Random832> ikonia: he doesn't mean you have to literally use sudo, he means you have to be in the admin group
[00:41] <stlu> oh, my bad.  I could have sworn there was a system that blocked su, maybe it was modified.
[00:41] <Ben64> Simi99: what exactly do you mean by having them "directly on my personal folders" ?
[00:41] <stlu> bye though
[00:41] <reisio> Simi99: the simple way is with a symlink: ln -s /mnt/windows/wherever ~/WindowsShoobity
[00:41] <ikonia> Random832: you don't have to be in the admin group to use su
[00:42] <ones> #join cpp
[00:42] <Danato> WindowsShoobity? lol
[00:42] <Simi99> symlink looks like something  that would work! Can you tell me a little more?
[00:43] <friday_> how add radio k-love: http://www.klove.com/listen/player.aspx in rhythmbox?
[00:43] <Danato> thats basically creating a shortcut to wherever you want
[00:44] <Simi99> What I need is a link between my documents, music, videos, etc. on ubuntu and those same folders on windows so that I can access any files on any OS
[00:44] <FlurglerHobbit> Hey all. Is there a way to automatically mount external hd's after the computer has booted?
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Simi99: I'd recommend a symbolic link
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Simi99: That way you can avoid changing the file system on windows
[00:45] <geekmasterflash> Simi99: Which tends to hate that.
[00:45] <Danato> friday_: it worked fine for me, jst click on radio, theres a add tab
[00:45] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: so many ways
[00:45] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: why not use /etc/fstab
[00:45] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: which way do you recommend?
[00:45] <FlurglerHobbit> alright
[00:45] <friday_> Danato, i want add in rhythmbox
[00:45] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: lsblk -f will give you the information to put in there
[00:45] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: or 'mount' after auto-mounting
[00:45] <Simi99> thanks geekmaster I'll try that
[00:46] <Danato> friday_: yes open rythmbox, on the library bar, left side, theres Radio, click on it and theres a list of radios, click on add tab and paste your link there
[00:46] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: is there a simpler way? I seem to be doing something wrong
[00:47] <Danato> friday_: im listening to the radio you showed on rhytmbox right now
[00:47] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: doing it right? :)
[00:47] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: I do nothing right.
[00:47] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: :) what are your drives' named?
[00:47] <Beldar> bert and ernie
[00:48] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[00:48] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: How do I found out?
[00:48] <Danato> friday_: ah wait, thats not right, it was another link, the one you gave me ddnt work
[00:48] <sventon> do anybody know where I can find documentation regarding the "built-in time delay" ?
[00:48] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: lsblk -f
[00:48] <reisio> sventon: _the_ built-in time delay?
[00:48] <friday_> Danato, yes
[00:49] <mcl0vin> ubuntu 13.04 how do i disable unity and use xfce please
[00:49] <Obama911> Fast, secure and stylishly simple, the Ubuntu operating system is used by 20 million people worldwide every day.
[00:49] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: sda1,2,5,sdb1,sdc1
[00:49] <Danato> mcl0vin: jst logout and select the other one
[00:49] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: know which ones are the ones you want to add?
[00:49] <Beldar> mcl0vin, Install xfce4 ans choose it from the login dropdown, no need to disable unity.
[00:50] <Obama911> Use Unity and like it.
[00:50] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: Is there a way I can find out what the HD's are actually named? Because I didn't name any of them like this. So I honestly don't know which is which
[00:50] <FlurglerHobbit> I guess I should try sdb1,sdc1
[00:50] <Obama911> Try KDE.
[00:51] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: lsblk -f would say
[00:51] <sventon> reisio: stlu mentioned that "there are built-in time delays that would make things slow down and be hard to crack" regarding brutal force a account
[00:51] <mcl0vin> Beldar: yes i did install xfce light
[00:51] <Obama911> KDE looks better than XFCE.
[00:51] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: Then I am afraid they don't have names?
[00:52] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: ah, what distro are you using?
[00:52] <picca> how is KDE 4 these days .. last time i used it was KDE 3.54 or something
[00:52] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: try /sbin/blkid
[00:52] <Beldar> mcl0vin, not sure about light never heard of it, but the desktop is chosen at login.
[00:52] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: Xubuntu
[00:52] <mcl0vin> Beldar: okay so i am at the login screen i don't see xfce
[00:52] <sventon> reisio: stlu has left so I can't ask him :(
[00:52] <reisio> sventon: oh, it doesn't matter
[00:52] <reisio> sventon: what is it you really want to know
[00:52] <Beldar> mcl0vin, click the gear dropdown at the right of the list line.
[00:52] <lachesis> man all the good handles are taken now
[00:53] <mcl0vin> Beldar: all i see is susped , restart ad shutdow
[00:53] <Obama911> One day you're here, one day you're there.
[00:54] <Beldar> mcl0vin, That is not the right plave to click it is the gear next to wgere the actual desktop is shown.
[00:54] <reisio> Johnny_Linux: {{fact}}
[00:54] <Beldar> where*
[00:55] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio: So, how would I go about mounting said HD
[00:55] <FlurglerHobbit> after lsblk
[00:55] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: ideally you'd get the LABEL or UUID value, do you have that?
[00:55] <FlurglerHobbit> Afraid not :/
[00:55] <FlurglerHobbit> It's just blank
[00:56] <mcl0vin> Beldar: i dont understand
[00:56] <Beldar> mcl0vin, Are you at the login screen?
[00:56] <mcl0vin> Beldar: we are talking about the login screen , gear at the top right next to the clock
[00:56] <mcl0vin> Beldar: yes
[00:57] <Beldar> mcl0vin, look for a gear very close to where you type the password
[00:57] <Ben64> FlurglerHobbit: sudo blkid
[00:57] <mcl0vin> Beldar: okay i see what you mean
[00:59] <Simi99> @geerkmasterflash whats wrong with my command : ln -s /media/simon/OS/Users/Simon /home/simon
[00:59] <Simi99> *or anyone else
[00:59] <bekks> Simi99: Use: ln -s /media/simon/OS/Users/Simon /home/simon/externaldrive
[00:59] <bekks> Simi99: You cannot symlink a home dir that easily.
[01:01] <mcl0vin> Beldar: okay i got it , thank you ;). another question please. i want to set this box as a headless server. so how can i open xfce in my windows
[01:01] <Ben64> mcl0vin: servers usually don't have gui at all
[01:01] <Beldar> mcl0vin, not sure there.
[01:09] <Boneheads1999> So I still have the same problem.. When I click "buy..." on a program in Ubuntu software center, it loads up the Ubuntu One login.  I have an ubuntu one account and am glad to log in, except the page has no text. just boxes and squares and the ubuntu one logo.
[01:10] <reisio> Boneheads1999: no doubt a bug covered on launchpad.net
[01:11] <mcl0vin> when you first access xfce it ask you if you want to use blank template or already made one. how can i bring that question again
[01:11] <Boneheads1999> reisio so what can I do
[01:11] <pinPoint> hey I have an issue with installing... http://pastebin.com/GCakEYQ9
[01:12] <bekks> pinPoint: Well, ask the PPA maintainer please.
[01:12] <Boneheads1999> I mean this is ridiculous.  All I want to do is "buy" minitube (minitube-ubuntu).  Except I have to pay money.  That amount is $0.00.  I should be able to install it for free..
[01:12] <reisio> Boneheads1999: find its listing on launchpad, do whatever's said to fix it
[01:12] <pfifo> pinPoint: please dont use pastebin.com
[01:12] <topper4125> I have a MotherBoard that will run IDE drives just fine, but it won't recognize SATA at all (one of my SATA Drives when plugged in got too hot to touch after about 20 seconds, and is now a paperweight)... I'm guessing just replace the mothboard, or go with just the biggest HDD i can find for IDE, and just live with it (which is about 320GB after a bit of searching)... Both 'fixes' are about the same price... what idea do you think is be
[01:12] <topper4125> tter?
[01:13] <pinPoint> pfifo: why, whats wrong with it?
[01:13] <xangua> Boneheads1999: you just have to log in with an ubuntu one account
[01:13] <reisio> Boneheads1999: hit CTRL+ALT+t, type 'sudo apt-get install minitube'
[01:13] <xangua> Boneheads1999: if you have a launchpad or ubuntu forums account you have one
[01:13] <Boneheads1999> xangua: I have an ubuntu one account.  But I have no idea what to enter in because there's no text
[01:14] <kostkon> Boneheads1999, try reinstalling usc
[01:14] <pfifo> pinPoint: ads, poor support for pasted text, other stuff
[01:14] <pinPoint> ah
[01:14] <Boneheads1999> kostkon how do I do that? (sorry for the dumb question)
[01:14] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: sudo apt-get install minitube?
[01:14] <FuuqUmist> hey guys, i got it working!
[01:14] <topper4125> !yay | FuuqUmist
[01:15] <pfifo> Boneheads1999: cant you figure out which one is username and which one is password and work around this?
[01:15] <minimec> pinPoint: You seem to have added an additional source 'debphp.org', and that one seems to conflict with the packages from the precise sources repository.
[01:15] <FuuqUmist> i used this to fix my source list http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[01:15] <minimec> pinPoint: I would remove that source...
[01:16] <pinPoint> minimec: the new source? I want 2.4.6
[01:16] <xangua> Boneheads1999: just hit buy and you are directed to ubuntu one login
[01:16] <pinPoint> but I guess something from 2.2 is left over
[01:16] <kostkon> Boneheads1999, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install software-center --reinstall
[01:17] <kostkon> Boneheads1999, give that cmd
[01:17] <pfifo> topper4125: check your motherboard's manufacturer's website for a bios update that could perhaps fix the issue
[01:17] <Boneheads1999> because there are 10 people talking to me
[01:18] <topper4125> OOh... didn't even think of that... will do pfifo, thanks!
[01:18] <Boneheads1999> Ben64: doing "sudo apt-get install minitube" installs the crappy minitube.  There's 2 in the software center.  The 2nd one (the one you have to buy) is the one that actually plays video
[01:19] <Ben64> Boneheads1999: ah
[01:20] <Boneheads1999> kostkon: I'm reinstalling USC now.
[01:21] <kostkon> Boneheads1999, ok hopefully will fix  it
[01:22] <aPpYe> I am trying to figure out some bash that will look at a list of packages and return what ones (if any) are already dependencies of others in the list.
[01:23] <pinPoint> minimec: after doing a google, it being suggested I do a 'sudo apt-get -f install'. What do you think?
[01:24] <pinPoint> it is*
[01:24] <minimec> pinPoint: Well.. You can try that. I don't think it will work, but you will not brake the system normally.
[01:25] <Simi99> Hi all! I used sym link between my Windows OS folder like Documents and my /home/User/Documents. My little problem is that with my file explorer, when I click on "Documents" I see my Document folder and only when I click on that folder I see my files. Is it possible to see my files directly?
[01:25] <Ben64> Simi99: what?
[01:25] <pinPoint> minimec: I do not understand what I have to take out in my sources?
[01:27] <pfifo> Simi99: i think you have to remove the Documents folder and replace it with a symlink, it sounds like you made a link you you windows documents inside of your documents folder
[01:28] <minimec> pinPoint: Why do you need apache 2.4.6? I would remove that additional source (ppa) you added. The ubuntu package system cannot resolv the package conflicts on your system right now. I would first bring it back into a stable state.
[01:29] <pfifo> pinPoint: run 'sudo apt-get update' and then retry the install of apache
[01:29] <b0x> i changed my date/time settings to different time
[01:29] <pinPoint> pfifo: I did
[01:29] <pinPoint> right after adding the ppa
[01:29] <b0x> now the status bar 'time' just stays the same
[01:29] <Simi99> @pfifo, yes that's what I did: ln -s /media/simon/OS/Users/Simon/Documents /home/simon/Documents . What is a better alternative?
[01:30] <b0x> as the time when i changed it
[01:30] <b0x> is there something i can reset?
[01:30] <maokaii> Does anybody have a guide for connecting to a ubuntu system using windows 7 to be able to view or control? Everything I find is for lan connections
[01:30] <topper4125> anyone know of a package that I can run to see what version of BIOS I am running, or do I just need to reboot and check from there?
[01:30] <Ben64> maokaii: theres no difference between lan and wan
[01:30] <b0x> maokaii: vnc?
[01:30] <b0x> and what Ben64 said
[01:30] <Ben64> Simi99: thats not the same, you made documents inside of documents
[01:31] <b0x> vnc / teamviewer / logmein ?
[01:31] <maokaii> b0x: ben64 when I say lan, I mean, from like one country to another, or one state to another. b0x idk how to work this VNC
[01:31] <b0x> use teamviewer
[01:31] <Ben64> maokaii: lan = local area network. i'm not sure what you're talking about
[01:31] <b0x> its easy
[01:31] <Simi99> @Ben64 How can I do it otherwise?
[01:31] <pfifo> pinPoint: ohh your using a PPA, well thats not supported here, to get help you will either have to use software from the repos or contact the maintainer of the PPA
[01:31] <b0x> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[01:31] <maokaii> b0x I installed teamviewer on the linux but the application wouldn't run for some reason
[01:32] <pinPoint> could I install my apache 2.4.6 from say ubuntu 13.10 into my 12.04? Is that possible?
[01:32] <Ben64> Simi99: remove the documents folder in ubuntu, make sure you back up anything that is in there. then symlink the windows directory there
[01:33] <reisio> pinPoint: most things to do with software are possible, doesn't make them smart
[01:33] <minimec> pinPoint: That is in fact possible, but you have to know what you are doing. It's called apt pinning. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[01:33] <Simi99> @Ben64 Ty!
[01:33] <xangua> pinPoint: it is not recomended to mix repositories version/packages; you can either search for a ppa or compile it yourself, you are on your own in both
[01:33] <pfifo> Simi99: and that made a link at the location '/home/simon/Documents/Documents' notice the double there? You need to 'mv /home/simon/Documents /home/simon/DontDeleteThis && ln -sf /media/simon/OS/Users/Simon/Documents /home/simon/Documents'
[01:34] <pinPoint> man oh man. this sucks
[01:34] <pinPoint> I already removed my 2.2.22
[01:34] <pinPoint> I guess im sol now
[01:35] <pfifo> pinPoint: whats wrong with the version from the repos?
[01:35] <pinPoint> i want 2.4 not 2.2 which my 12.04lts can get
[01:35] <pfifo> pinPoint: but why?
[01:36] <pinPoint> increased security
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> pinPoint: 2.4 does NOT bring increased security, just increased headaches.
[01:37] <minimec> pinPoint: Adding a ppa is less secure than using a apache version maintained by your distro. Your argument is wrong.
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> pinPoint: 2.4 simply adds new features and new configuration changes.
[01:37] <kostkon> pinPoint, ubuntuu pckgs are always patched against vulnerabilities
[01:38] <pfifo> pinPoint: I recommend compiling apache yourself in your use case, that will allow you to run any version you want and even add extra patches that ubuntu dosent have.
[01:38] <pinPoint> pfifo: compile from source?
[01:39] <dbrooks> my machine tried to install a new kernel version (3.8.0-33) and it bricked apt-get (it keeps complaining about unmet dependencies). How do I 1) get rid of the updated kernel image and 2) unbrick apt-get?
[01:39] <topper4125_> pfifo, there are a ton of BIOS updates for my Motherboard, do I need the newest one, or all of them from what I have to latest?
[01:39] <pfifo> !compile | pinPoint
[01:39] <Simi99> @pfifo it worked thanks, whats the difference between ln -s and ln -sf?
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you pastebin the full error for apt-get please
[01:40] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO: sure, give me a moment
[01:40] <pfifo> topper4125_: you can only have one BIOS so you likely want the latest one, read carefully what it fixes, and follow instructions letter by letter so you dont brick your machine
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: also is this 12.04 or 13.04?
[01:41] <topper4125_> pfifo, Will do... just was't sure if I needed to grab the 8 updates avail from the version I'm running and latest avail.
[01:42] <dbrooks> 13.04, lubuntu running xfce
[01:42] <pfifo> Simi99: the 'f' means follow, it dose nothing in this case, I just always use '-sf' if it happened that your /media/simon/OS/Users/Simon/Documents was also a symlink, it would have followed it until it eventually found an actual file or folder
[01:42] <pinPoint> pfifo: how can I remove all these dependencies?
[01:42] <fixmypc956> im back and after installing Zenthyl I didnt like it so reinstalled os
[01:42] <pinPoint> for php5 and apache2?
[01:42] <bekks> pinPoint: you cant. you will break stuff if you do.
[01:42] <pfifo> !ppapurge | pinPoint
[01:43] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/1asUEjJM
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: have you run: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:44] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, yes
[01:44] <pinPoint> so I started in #httpd, they recommended to use a package manager. I come here, you recommend I build from source...
[01:44] <pinPoint> this is just too much... something has to give
[01:44] <rtd2> Are there any security consultants available for work?
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: what is the output of: uname -r
[01:45] <minimec> pinPoint: That's not true. At least 4 people here gave you the advice to disabe/remove that ppa first and run the apache version provided by ubuntu 12.04.
[01:45] <pfifo> pinPoint: they (implied) recommended you use the version that the package manger gives you
[01:45] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, I think the actual problem has to do with there not being enough space in /boot for the new kernel image, but I don't want to upgrade the kernel anyways (it just tried to do it because autoupdates got installed)
[01:45] <pinPoint> i want 2.4.6 though
[01:45] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, 3.8.0-19-generic
[01:46] <pinPoint> I want support for stronger CypherSuites and forward secrecy
[01:46] <pfifo> pinPoint: if you have to have that version then you have to build it yourself
[01:46] <minimec> pinPoint: You can take that advice, or leave it. You probably want a running apache2 server, right?
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: that's not a problem. can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[01:47] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, sure
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: we'll just purge the old kernels and manually install the dependencies to resolve the issue
[01:47] <bekks> pinPoint: As you can see - ask the maintainer of the PPA for fixing it. Or build apache2 yourself.
[01:47] <pinPoint> ok
[01:48] <bekks> pinPoint: Not that I told you the same a few days ago ;)
[01:48] <pinPoint> bekks: So if I build from source, will the dependecies get in the way?
[01:48] <bekks> pinPoint: If you fix them, yes. If not, no.
[01:48] <bekks> pinPoint: That depends on your skills in package building.
[01:48] <pinPoint> so let them be is what you're saying?
[01:48] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/tY57EwMr
[01:48] <bekks> pinPoint: No. I say: "Dont use a PPA."
[01:49] <pinPoint> i have never done any sort of package building
[01:49] <d-tox> Has anyone been able to install adobeair correctly and get programs using adobeair to run? I think this is an issue because ia32-libs is no longer present in repos
[01:49] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, I don't want this new kernel though?
[01:49] <bekks> pinPoint: If you dont know how to do it - dont do it. Use the stock apache2 package from the official repos.
[01:49] <pinPoint> bekks: I was thinking this: http://itstuffallaround.blogspot.com/2013/09/configuring-apache-server-from-source.html
[01:50] <bekks> pinPoint: I will not guide you to use anything else than the stock ubuntu repo packages.
[01:50] <pinPoint> bekks: sigh
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: space shouldn't be an issue in /boot with such few kernels. can you pastebin: df -h
[01:51] <bekks> pinPoint: If you want to walk your own path on using an unsupported package - walk that path. And challenge the difficulties.
[01:52] <pinPoint> so i shall leave those dependencies and build from scratch then
[01:52] <bekks> pinPoint: No. You should use the stock ubuntu packages. How often will you ask that again?
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: its ok, you can remove remove the new kernels and linux-generic after and rerun update grub and that will keep you at 19.    is there a particular reason why you do not want kernel updates?
[01:52] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, actually you are right, it is not a space issue because apparently I didn't create a seperate partition for /boot, and nothing is close to being filled up
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you tell me the output of: uname -a
[01:54] <d-tox> does anyone know if there is a way to get back ia-32libs in the newest ubuntu repos
[01:54] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, yeah, I'm running on an old laptop with an intel celeron-m processor that has something crappy about it that won't let me run straight up ubuntu (hince, some special build of lubuntu)
[01:54] <Ben64> d-tox: use multiarch to get whichever 32 bit libraries you need, ia32libs was a bad hacky package
[01:55] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, Linux tynacorp 3.8.0-19 #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:19:42 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: ok. we just to get this cleanly installed, then you can purge the kernel. thankfully its not a dependency of the OS
[01:55] <kostkon> dbrooks, non pae cpu
[01:55] <dbrooks> kostkon, yup thats the problem
[01:55] <dbrooks> kostkon, thanks
[01:55] <kostkon> dbrooks, np
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you run: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i inux-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you run: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb
[01:56] <d-tox> Ben64: do you mean ia32-libs-multiarch??
[01:56] <Ben64> d-tox: no
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: second one sorry
[01:57] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, sure
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: then: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-image-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb
[01:58] <woos> I have a partition with a broken install, it\s mounted as a filesystem, I want to be able to transfer files to it but it's telling me permission denied
[01:59] <woos> how do I fix this?
[01:59] <Ben64> woos: you'll need to provide more information about why the permission is denied
[01:59] <woos> I don't know much about linux but that filesystem with the broken install used to have a user:password login to it, maybe that's why?
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: then again: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-headers-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-generic_3.8.0.33.51_i386.deb
[01:59] <woos> Ben64:
[02:00] <lucaone> salve a tutti
[02:00] <Ben64> woos: pastebin what you're doing and the error
[02:00] <woos> but I have nothing to paste
[02:00] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, are those all the same command? it's erroring out at dpkg -i
[02:00] <Ben64> woos: so then how did the error appear
[02:01] <FlurglerHobbit> Hey all. How do I edit the startup applications using terminal?
[02:01] <woos> when I drag a file to the mounted filesystem
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: the errors are expected. that's the fact that there's more unmet dependencies
[02:01] <david38400> I can't get any sound out on audacious or vlc media player, but yes on movie player. Any ideas whats wrong pllease?
[02:01] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, oh, i see one was headers
[02:01] <Ben64> woos: come on, give FULL details. i'm not going to sit here and pry out the information
[02:01] <drasko> What's the best way to work on kernel development with often recompilation, without always cleaning the kernel as with make-kpkg
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: once you have the 3 installed can you rerun: sudo apt-get -f install                    and can you pastebin the error
[02:02] <david38400> Any help please on sound issue?
[02:03] <pfifo> drasko: the build system should detect updates to sources and recompile only those. have you tried simply, not running make-kpkg
[02:03] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, ok, apt is currently downloading 3.8.0-33.48 files...
[02:03] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, was it supposed to try to use the files we just downloaded?
[02:04] <arooni-mobile__> Anyone here a DigitalPoint Forum Member? I need three likes on a forum post so I can post a logo design contest. Appreciate your help!
[02:04] <drasko> pfifo, pfifo what do you mean? Which build system?
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks. this should resolve the dependency issue. then we can try and remove the new kernels.
[02:04] <drasko> I thought that we always have to run make-kpkg
[02:04] <Ben64> arooni-mobile__: don't do that here
[02:04] <arooni-mobile__> ok
[02:05] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, alright, I'll send you the pastebin as soon as it finishes
[02:05] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help!
[02:06] <woos> Ben64: I copy hello.bmp from my desktop, I paste into the mounted myfilesystem, I get Error opening file: '/media/myfilesystem/hello.bmp': Permission denied
[02:06] <pfifo> drasko: kernel uses kbuild or something like that, its based on makefiles
[02:06] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: np. btw for future reference. you can mark a package on hold so it never updates. such as: sudo apt-mark hold linux-generic
[02:07] <Ben64> woos: that means you can't read hello.bmp
[02:07] <drasko> pfifo, running make in the kernel tree is OK to recompile kernel. We need however make-kpkg to obtain .deb for installation into the system!
[02:07] <woos> from the filesystem it\s not on yet
[02:07] <pfifo> drasko: how are you compiling? Is this vanilla sources or are you using a deb source?
[02:07] <drasko> pfifo, deb
[02:07] <woos> Ben64: I can copy and paste hello.bmp from my desktop to my desktop without problems
[02:07] <drasko> otherwise it would be too difficult to install it onto the system
[02:07] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/n1sAtCZT
[02:08] <pfifo> drasko: you dont need to package the build to install it
[02:08] <grahamsavage> hi, i can't open software centre
[02:08] <grahamsavage> it just crashes when i open it
[02:08] <grahamsavage> also i'm using 12.04 LTI which i thought should be the stable version.. any idea how i can debug this?
[02:08] <Ben64> woos: pastebin "ls -ln /media;ls -ln /media/myfilesystem;whoami;lsb_release -a"
[02:08] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, dpkg seems to be upset about the non-pae cpu
[02:09] <drasko> pfifo, yes- exactly what mak-kpkg is doing
[02:09] <drasko> so we come to the beginning...
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: ok. thats just to warn you that it will break your system i guess. can you rerun: sudo apt-get upgrade                     and pastebin the output
[02:09] <pfifo> drasko: you should be able to 'make install'
[02:10] <ianorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE if it as pentium m dbrooks
[02:10] <pfifo> grahamsavage: pastebin the output you get when you start it from the command line
[02:10] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, it failed because of unmet dependencies, should I try with -f ?
[02:10] <woos> Ben64:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461620/
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you pastebin the output again please
[02:12] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/zCtmegVS
[02:12] <Ben64> woos: only root can write to that directory
[02:13]  * xangua shoots Ben64...misses the head
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: ok, so its refusing to install. so we're just gonna purge it all manually
[02:13] <grahamsavage> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/52a3009148b091c55252
[02:13] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, ok
[02:14] <grahamsavage> pfifo: what's the cmd for software centre on commandline?
[02:14] <grahamsavage> apt-get?
[02:14] <pfifo> drasko: when i ventured into kernel programming, I put my code into a module, then I could only compile my module, insmod it and rmmod it over and over and it saved alot of time (cept for all the kernel panics of course)
[02:14] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you again pastebin: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[02:14] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, yup, one moment
[02:14] <MKCoin> Hello, I'm trying to update procps, but ... procps is failing inthe process. Here is the error message I receive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461633/
[02:14] <d-tox> Ben64: how can I build a 64 bit version of adobeair with only the .bin file which is all I have. We used to need ia32-libs to install all the 32 bit dependencies so this would work. can I just grab each dependency with something like apt-get install package:i386 ??
[02:15] <pfifo> grahamsavage: its not apt-get, I dont know what it is as I dont use it myself.
[02:15] <grahamsavage> pfifo: got it
[02:15] <grahamsavage> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2a496d4456ad2d87fbe7
[02:15] <Ben64> d-tox: "can I just grab each dependency with something like apt-get install package:i386" yes that is exactly how it works
[02:15] <d-tox> Ben64: kk
[02:16] <root-admin> software-center
[02:16] <pfifo> d-tox: you cant build that package, its closed source
[02:16] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/azev3nUG
[02:16] <d-tox> pfifo: why cant get the dependencies required to build it then build it from the .bin like I used to
[02:17] <grahamsavage> wow that was easy :/
[02:17] <fixmypc956> in vim once to push {esc} to save file, what is the next sequence of keys to get back to command prompt
[02:17] <grahamsavage> file permission wrong on one of the files
[02:17] <pfifo> grahamsavage: you need to run this as root, pastebin the new results
[02:17] <grahamsavage> it was 660
[02:17] <root-admin> fixmypc956: #vim
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: lets start with: sudo dpkg --remove linux-image-extra-3.8.0-32-generic
[02:18] <pfifo> d-tox: again, you dont build adome-air, you just run what they give you.
[02:18] <grahamsavage> pfifo: -rw-rw---- 1 root root   78 Aug 31 12:05 virtualbox.list << there was this file and i just changed it too  sudo chmod 766 virtual*
[02:18] <grahamsavage> and it works now :/  weird
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sudo dpkg --remove linux-headers-3.8.0-32-generic
[02:18] <d-tox> pfifo: how can I run a .bin file when it won't run??
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sudo dpkg --remove linux-headers-3.8.0-32
[02:19] <fixmypc956> Im in the editor right now and I cant get out to command prompt
[02:19] <kostkon> d-tox, make it ececutable first?
[02:19] <pfifo> grahamsavage: i think your looking for 0644 not 0755
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: lets me know if there's any errors on those commands
[02:19] <kostkon> executable*
[02:19] <root-admin> fixmypc956: have you tried esc and then type :q! and press enter
[02:20] <grahamsavage> pfifo: ok
[02:20] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, ok, those all went fine
[02:20] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: this is where the fun begins: sudo dpkg --remove linux-generic
[02:21] <d-tox> kostkon: it is executable, I run the .bin file and im presented with a screen saying running 32bit air 2.6 on 64 bit systems has not been fully tested. then if i click ok it closes and nothing happens
[02:21] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, could you kindly remind me what all depends on that meta-package before I do it?
[02:21] <kostkon> d-tox, right. ok
[02:22] <d-tox> http://pastie.org/8502430
[02:22] <pfifo> d-tox: looks like a bug, you should contact adobe systems incorparated and tell them about the problem
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> dbrook that meta package is for the latest kernel only
[02:22] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMOhitsujiTMO, ok that went well too
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks the dependencies are linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sudo dpkg --remove linux-headers-generic
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sudo dpkg --remove linux-image-generic
[02:23] <blognewb> hi, guys? Does the 13.10 download come with chromium inside? or just ff?
[02:23] <root-admin> just ff
[02:23] <blognewb> i can't find it indicated anywhere in the website
[02:23] <blognewb> oh just ff? :((((
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sudo dpkg --remove linux-image-extra-3.8.0-33-generic
[02:24] <pfifo> blognewb: ff by default, chromium is just a click away from there
[02:24] <fixmypc956> ok that worked thanx
[02:24] <minimec> blognewb: Default browser is still firefox. What you want is 'sudo apt-get install chromium-browser'
[02:24] <root-admin> ff nightly is superior to chrome
[02:24] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, ok
[02:25] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, still good
[02:25] <pfifo> !best | root-admin
[02:25] <blognewb> root-admin, is there an easy way to download it while outside ubuntu without internet access, pfifo or root-admin because my friend told me not to use the internet while inside ubuntu, he's got some encrypted stuff in the livecd/usb
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sudo dpkg --remove linux-headers-3.8.0-33-generic
[02:25] <pfifo> blognewb: i suspect its impossible to download anything without internet :(
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sudo dpkg --remove linux-headers-3.8.0-33
[02:26] <blognewb> pfifo, no i mean download it outside the ubuntu os
[02:26] <root-admin> true that ubottu. blognewb you can download the deb on another computer and then transfer it to the other computer on a usb
[02:26] <blognewb> pfifo, not using the software center
[02:26] <ianorlin> !info apt-offline
[02:26] <pfifo> !aptoncd | blognewb
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you once again pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[02:26] <blognewb> root-admin, i did it but then when software center opened, the install button was disabled :'(
[02:27] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, yup
[02:27] <blognewb> root-admin, got the chromium and chrome deb pkgs
[02:27] <root-admin> do you have root aceess blognewb ?
[02:27] <blognewb> root-admin, yes it's a livecd
[02:28] <blognewb> brb urgent
[02:28] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/2nDB4vVe
[02:28] <root-admin> are you sure you have the right packages? if you're using a 32bit OS, 64bit packages won't install
[02:29] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: once again: sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:30] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, ok i'm letting that run now
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: once thats done run: sudo update-grub                  to make sure its not pointing at another kernel
[02:31] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, good call... will do
[02:33] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, apt errored out because it downloaded linux-image-3.8.0-19.29-generic which does not support non-pae cpu's... will send you a pastebin
[02:34] <lucaone> !list
[02:34] <blognewb> hello?
[02:34] <blognewb> back
[02:34] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/qZnwfmBz
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you run again: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[02:37] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, pastebin.com/2bKdwVvr
[02:38] <Obama911> sudo
[02:40] <Obama911> apt-get
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: hmm, it seems to be trying to reinstall you kernel. this is bad
[02:41] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, yeah... with a version that has not been patched
[02:42] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, did it already overwrite the working kernel image?
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: not sure why they didn't just release a kernel image.   no but it should not have overwritten the kernel
[02:45] <minimec> dbrooks: hitsujiTMO: May I join the discussion. If he first tried to purge all these 'extra' kernel packages? sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-32-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-33-generic
[02:45] <d-tox> I needed sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d:i386 which is the newest libnss package which I think was the main issue. Now I'm able to load adobeair without the error message I was recieving before.
[02:46] <dbrooks> minimec, I tried apt-get purge <anything> before coming here for help but it just told me I had unmet dependencies
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> minimec: only purged the packages for the newer kernel. not 19 , the one hes using
[02:47] <tsnyph> hello. just a quick question. I made my first video using openshot, and i used kazam to record the screen. however google appears distorted after render and upload, even though it's HD profile
[02:48] <minimec> dbrooks: hitsujiTMO: Is he using the 19er kernel. He got a dependency error while configuring the 19er kernel... ' /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic_3.8.0-19.30_i386.deb
[02:48] <pfifo> tsnyph: its still compressed, and compression = data loss
[02:49] <tsnyph> it's mainly the letters that are distorted, however this only happens on google pages, not with anything else
[02:49] <minimec> dbrooks: hitsujiTMO line 198 http://pastebin.com/qZnwfmBz
[02:49] <pfifo> tsnyph: make your font size larger
[02:49] <tsnyph> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-P4bcPc38c  <-- this is the video
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> minimec: its not a dependency error. the error is that is trying to install a pae kernel and he has a processor without the pae flag
[02:50] <dbrooks> minimec, I think i'm currently using 3.8.0-19.29 (not 30)
[02:51] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, what was the command you mentioned earlier to prevent things from updating... would that help?
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: not when its already trying to install i'm afraid
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: hmm, from what i'm reading here the kernel version doesn't matter. its just a missing flag.
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: can you wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/prof7bit/fake-pae/ubuntu/pool/main/f/fake-pae/fake-pae_1.0.1_i386.deb
[02:53] <minimec> hitsujiTMO: dbrooks: Ok. I see. So if we 'mv' the dpkg status file in /var/lib/dpkg?
[02:54] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, yes I remember reading something similar that any of the kernels should run just fine, it was getting it to accept it
[02:54] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, one moment
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: then: dpkg -i fake-pae_1.0.1_i386.deb
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sorry then: sudo dpkg -i fake-pae_1.0.1_i386.deb
[02:56] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, what is that package?
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: thats an app that adds a fake pae entry. its how the guy made the image you installed from
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: once thats done: sudo start fake-pae
[02:57] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, ah ok thats up and running
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: now try: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:59] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, running...
[03:00] <tsnyph> i also experience a glitch in kazam. I choose to record region, and select the region, however it records the entire desktop as well
[03:01] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, success!
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: sweet!
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: now: sudo apt-mark hold linux-headers-3.8.0-19 linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-19-generic
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: that should hopefully keep the system running
[03:03] <MojoJojo> Hello everyone.
[03:04] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, awesome - did apt update-grub already or should I still do that?
[03:04] <HumT> Hi.  Is there a resident upstart guru here?
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks that would have been triggered by the update but it wouldn't hurt to run it again
[03:05] <pfifo> HumT: just ask... i think theres #ubuntu-upstart too
[03:06] <MojoJojo> Anyone kind enough to point me in a direction where I can find information about logging all ip's or website names of sites I connect too? Have been using ifstat but it clears out after a few secs and does not log info.
[03:07] <pfifo> MojoJojo: I like wireshark
[03:07] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, awesome, thank you for your help! Also, thank you for acting very professional - do you have a charity or group you support I can donate to?
[03:07] <pfifo> dbrooks: he supports me :)
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: pfifo :P     there's always the humble bundle. you even get free games when you donate to them :P
[03:09] <dbrooks> hitsujiTMO, cool, will do. Thank you again for your help!
[03:09] <hitsujiTMO> dbrooks: no problem at all
[03:09] <MojoJojo> ha just found the answer looking through the Linux cookbook.
[03:09] <pfifo> MojoJojo: dose it involve tcpdump?
[03:10] <MKCoin> Hello, I'm trying to update procps, but ... procps is failing in the process. Here is the error message I receive from Update Manager: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461633/
[03:12] <pfifo> MKCoin: where did you get your package from?
[03:13] <MKCoin> pfifo: Uh, whatever the defaults are. How can I check exactly? Software sources?
[03:13] <HumT> With upstart I am attempting to execute screen to run a shell script but all i have is fail.  Here is the .conf file http://pastebin.com/i7MkwNg6
[03:14] <pfifo> MKCoin: how did you trigger this update/
[03:14] <maokaii> im trying to run multisystem on a usb drive. every time I extract to desktop it doesnt show there. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ any ideas?
[03:14] <bariho> is there any easy to use gui for configuring samba shares? samba's config file and man page are a "little" bit overwhelming.
[03:14] <HumT> can anyone see the obvious problem?
[03:14] <MKCoin> pfifo: using Update Manager. It was among lots of other updates, such as firefox and the kernel; it's the only one that won't complete.
[03:15] <fixmypc956> I installed ubuntu server onto USB drive. I have a 1TB HD in system and I want to be able to keep all files on HD while OS stays only on USB drive. Can someone help me on how to do this
[03:16] <pfifo> MKCoin: on the command line run 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and pastebin all the results
[03:17] <pfifo> fixmypc956: add an entry in /etc/fstab for the 1TB harddrive, mount it to /home or something like that
[03:17] <minimec> fixmypc956: You could define (mount) your HD as '/home/youruser/HD' in /etc/fstab. Like that it would be mounted on every boot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[03:18] <fixmypc956> this is what I get after I run sudo fdisk -l
[03:18] <fixmypc956> http://pastebin.com/yAxuBTtM
[03:18] <HumT> nvm.  i fixed it
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> humt bash was the problem?
[03:18] <pfifo> fixmypc956: dont use pastebin.com
[03:19] <fixmypc956> ok what should I use
[03:19] <MKCoin> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461793/
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> fixmypc956: paste.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <fixmypc956> ok cool will do
[03:20] <pfifo> MKCoin: run 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[03:20] <fixmypc956> do you need me to pastebin that again
[03:20] <pfifo> no
[03:20] <MKCoin> ok, moment
[03:21] <pfifo> fixmypc956: your pastebin dosent change the situation, do like I said above
[03:21] <MKCoin> Identical error, pfifo
[03:22] <fixmypc956> pfifo: Im new to this so can you walk me thru this
[03:23] <pfifo> MKCoin: can you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force procps'
[03:23] <MKCoin> pfifo: start: Job failed to start               invoke-rc.d: initscript procps, action "start" failed.
[03:24] <pfifo> fixmypc956: pastebin the output of 'sudo blkid && catb/etc/fstab'
[03:24] <Ne0nTree> .
[03:24] <maokaii> anyone ever use multisystem to put ubuntu install persistant on a usb drive?
[03:24] <Ne0nTree> Me
[03:25] <maokaii> can I ask for some help?
[03:25] <Ne0nTree> Need Help?
[03:25] <Ne0nTree> Suer
[03:25] <Ne0nTree> *Sure
[03:25] <Simi90> hey all! how can i change my home folders names (Documents, Pictures..) to match my language? I'm having an issue with softlink
[03:25] <maokaii> Ne0nTree:  yes, i used this guide: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ its all installed, i download 64 bit 12.04 ISO from ubuntu .com then drag that into the window it tells me and choose persistent?
[03:25] <fixmypc956> pfifo: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461806/
[03:25] <maokaii> and then that usb will contain an installed ubuntu?
[03:26] <MKCoin> pfifo: should I try the two solutions in this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505356
[03:26] <xangua> Simi90: if you have your language packages set up correctly they should match with the current language you are using
[03:27] <maokaii> whats the terminal code to check which drive is on sda1 ?
[03:27] <Beldar> maokaii, thatis a ISO loaded to a usb not a full install.
[03:27] <maokaii> and check where its mounted/
[03:28] <Ne0nTree> Maokaii: If your using Pendrive linux installer, Choose your version (ubuntu) and then click "browse" click next... That should work
[03:28] <xangua> Simi90: can you acces your startup applications menu?
[03:28] <maokaii> Ne0nTree: I'm currently on ubuntu "live" version, I was told this will make it an installed version on the usb drive rather than the hard drive
[03:28] <Simi90> xangua: yes!
[03:28] <maokaii> because I want it installed on the usb not hrad drive
[03:29] <pfifo> MKCoin: run 'sudo dpkg-divert --rename /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d' then 'sudo ln -sf /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d' then 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[03:29] <maokaii> any help then? I was told to use this and choose persistent and it will make it installed
[03:30] <Beldar> maokaii, That just loads the iso to the usb so y9oucan do a full install, the persistent is to add stuff or what you do is saved on that usb.
[03:30] <Ubuntu-Staff> Hello, Anybody need Ubuntu help?
[03:30] <xangua> Simi90: check that you have xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update enabled (it's under something about 'update user directories) http://i.imgur.com/Y5pUWcd.png
[03:30] <pfifo> Ubuntu-Staff: please dont offer support
[03:30] <Ubuntu-Staff> Um, Why
[03:30] <maokaii> beldar: damn, alright. I'm trying to get wine but somebody said I can't get wine on a live version of ubuntu, is that true?
[03:31] <MKCoin> ok pfifo, no errors. Do I run upgrade now?
[03:31] <Beldar> maokaii, What is your definition of install here?
[03:31] <Beldar> maokaii, Probably not a iso loaded usb with a persistent has limitations.
[03:31] <maokaii> Beldar: whatever you guys think it is, on ubuntu it shows "install" on the left side, and im in a live "try" mode, I dont want to install it to the hard drive, I want it installed on a usb drive so I can use wine
[03:31] <geekmasterflash> Ubuntu-Staff: For one thing, your name appears to mark you as offical
[03:31] <pfifo> MKCoin: no, now remove the diversion, 'sudo rm -rf /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d' then 'sudo dpkg-divert --remove /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d'
[03:32] <MojoJojo> O_o
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> Ubuntu-Staff: But a whois on your IP indicates you are not connecting from the Ubuntu ip range
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> Ubuntu-Staff: So offering support can be somewhat suspect
[03:32] <maokaii> beldar: is it true I need to install it to use wine, and I cant use wine on a "try" mode?
[03:32] <Simi90> xangua: actually its blank, as if there is no application on startup
[03:32] <Beldar> maokaii, A install media is needed to install, a usb loaded as you are or dvd/cd.
[03:32] <geekmasterflash> Ubuntu-Staff: I'd recommend waiting until someone asks for help
[03:32] <MojoJojo> Whoa we can see each others ip? Cool ^_^
[03:33] <geekmasterflash> MojoJojo: /who (username)
[03:33] <MKCoin> ok pfifo
[03:33] <Beldar> maokaii, Why do you want wine?
[03:33] <xangua> maokaii: is not, sudo apt-get install wine ; of course a live session will not be saved and as I say you you first need to load the iso in multiboot and after you do, select the option menu to make it a persistent install
[03:33] <maokaii> beldar: so I can use ekeyfinder to get the key and version of the windows 7 on this SSD
[03:33] <pfifo> MKCoin: all should be good now, try doing what ever you were upto to begin with
[03:33] <zykotick9> !cloak | MojoJojo or not ;)
[03:33] <Beldar> maokaii, The windows is not bootable?
[03:34] <xangua> Simi90: Simi90 then just edit the entry and add xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update as command or just create a new entry
[03:34] <maokaii> beldar the ssd crashed, I want to install it on a new hard drive, but I dont have discs it was custom made by an old friend who I dont have contact with anymore
[03:34] <MojoJojo> hehe thanks all ^_^
[03:34] <pfifo> rDNS > cloaks
[03:34] <maokaii> so yes I cant boot into windows, and I cant make a proper ISO disc because I dont know the key or version
[03:34] <maokaii> so I need to use keyfinder in wine to get it
[03:35] <fixmypc956> pfifo: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461806/
[03:35] <Beldar> maokaii, I'm fairly sure there are easier ways to do this one would be hirens.
[03:35] <maokaii> !hirens | maokaii
[03:35] <Beldar> maokaii, not a linux thing.
[03:35] <maokaii> no info on hirens?
[03:36] <maokaii> oh
[03:36] <maokaii> ok
[03:36] <buu> Anyone happen to know how to configure rtorrent? "event.download.finished' failed: "Could not find '='""
[03:36] <maokaii> so there is no way to use wine in a live boot usb?
[03:36] <Simi90> xangua: and then I reboot my computer?
[03:36] <Beldar> maokaii, Go ask in ##windows on this they I would think have ways to do this.
[03:37] <maokaii> i'd really like to do it this way since I have it all opened
[03:37] <Beldar> using wine in ubuntu is like a long way around
[03:37] <maokaii> I just need to figure out how to get wine on a "try" version
[03:37] <xangua> Simi90: just log out and log in
[03:37] <pfifo> fixmypc956: add this to youe /etc/fstab 'UUID=3c6a75d1-b1ab-4886-bd3f-f84884de98f0       /home   ext3    defaults        0 0' you may want to tweak it a little first
[03:37] <Simi90> xangua: thanks
[03:37] <Ubuntu-Staff> Maokii, You cant on a Live iso
[03:38] <sgp667> hey I'm not sure why is this so difficult but does anyone know lightweight alternatives to Xorg
[03:39] <MKCoin> pfifo: It's failing to upgrade procps still, but with a different error. Want me to pastebin that?
[03:39] <pfifo> sgp667: mir will be coming soon, you can try out the latest stuff tho
[03:39] <zykotick9> sgp667: lightweight alternative to xorg - i don't think that exists?  what are you "actually" looking for exactly?
[03:39] <pfifo> MKCoin: yes please
[03:39] <Simi90> it didnt work for me
[03:39] <fishcooker> i've got grub>.. what should i do?
[03:39] <fishcooker> i've failed install .. stop on grub install on hardisk step
[03:40] <geekmasterflash> sgp667: xorg is pretty lightweight, it's the DE and DM that tend to be bloated
[03:40] <MKCoin> pfifo: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461831/
[03:40] <Beldar> fishcooker, give more details.
[03:40] <sgp667> zykotick9,  pfifo basically I instaled lubuntu on an old computer and Xorg actually uses a lot of CPU sometimes
[03:40] <geekmasterflash> sgp667: That's because other programs are using xorg too
[03:41] <geekmasterflash> sgp667: Firefox and gnome-system-manager are pretty good examples of it
[03:41] <geekmasterflash> sgp667: Use one, and suddenly xorg gets huge
[03:41] <zykotick9> sgp667: xorg+lxde is close to as light a GUI as you're going to get (while still having a DE)
[03:41] <fixmypc956> pfifo: this is what I did http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461833/
[03:41] <Beldar> !grub | fishcooker
[03:41] <sgp667> geekmasterflash you are right because its especially during firefox that i notice this
[03:41] <pfifo> MKCoin: you seem to have missed a step in my instructions, you need to 'sudo dpkg-divert --remove /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d'
[03:42] <sgp667> zykotick9  :( I was afraid of that
[03:42] <fishcooker> actually my ubuntu server installation doesn't finish .. it stops when grub step.. then the box panic
[03:42] <geekmasterflash> sgp667: Yeah, that's not really xorg's fault, but if you are just looking at it from a memory usage/processor usage standpoint it can look like it
[03:42] <fixmypc956> pfifo: what should I tweak
[03:42] <MKCoin> pfifo: No I did do that. When I run it again: No diversion 'any diversion of /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d', none removed.
[03:43] <pfifo> fixmypc956: like yo may not want to mount it to /home, perhaps a different location, and you may want to have the filesystem checked so changing the second 0 to a 2 might be a good example
[03:44] <pfifo> MKCoin: can you 'sudo ls -la /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d'
[03:44] <sgp667> geekmasterflash would you know how to tackle then websites that have a lot of flash ( without turning it off)
[03:44] <Simi90> Does anyone know how to change the folders name to match my language? I have an issue with softlink?
[03:44] <MKCoin> pfifo: ls: cannot access /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: No such file or directory
[03:44] <sgp667> geekmasterflash> its because I got this old computer I want to use but my work requires me to use certain websites
[03:44] <MKCoin> hm..
[03:44] <geekmasterflash> sgp667: sgp667 Honestly,, not really. Flash is a hog-beast and poorly implimented in Linux
[03:45] <pfifo> MKCoin: that is not good
[03:45] <MKCoin> D:
[03:45] <fixmypc956> pfifo: O_0
[03:45] <sgp667> geekmasterflash alright then I guess I will have to use better computer, thanks for help
[03:46] <MKCoin> how can I re-create it?
[03:46] <MojoJojo> Flash is nasty :( Can't wait for html 5 to replace it.
[03:47] <fixmypc956> is using webmin with ubuntu server 12.04 LTS a good idea?
[03:47] <pfifo> MKCoin: try 'sudo ls -la /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d*'
[03:48] <zykotick9> !webmin | fixmypc956 NO!
[03:48] <MKCoin> pfifo: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11308 Jul 26  2012 /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d.distrib
[03:48] <fixmypc956> is there an alternative to webmin that I can use
[03:49] <reisio> fixmypc956: unfortunately yes
[03:49] <MojoJojo> Goodnight all.
[03:49] <reisio> MojoJojo: peace
[03:49] <fishcooker> Beldar: i've done this on my root partition # grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[03:49] <geekmasterflash> fixmypc956: eBox, maybe?
[03:50] <fishcooker> finished and no error
[03:50] <fishcooker> but when i boot it only "grub > "
[03:50] <pfifo> MKCoin: ok, can you run 'sudo dpkg-divert --remove /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d' and pastebin both the command your running and the output of it
[03:50] <fixmypc956> ebox is Zentyal?
[03:51] <MKCoin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461869/
[03:51] <fixmypc956> I tried it and didnt really like it...
[03:51] <pfifo> fixmypc956: that might be ok
[03:51] <pfifo> !fstab | fixmypc956
[03:52] <pfifo> fixmypc956: read that info ubottu gave you
[03:52] <fixmypc956> ok let me read that see what I can pick up from it
[03:54] <Beldar> fishcooker, You ran that from where and how?
[03:54] <MKCoin> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6461869/
[03:55] <Beldar> fishcooker, Try the bootrepair app in the bots grub links, and be sure to save the bootinfo summary.
[03:56] <pfifo> MKCoin: ok then just 'sudo mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d.distrib /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d' and then try your update again
[03:56] <MKCoin> move or copy?
[03:57] <MKCoin> in case this happens again lol
[03:57] <pfifo> MKCoin: you can make a backup but, in the end make sure there isnt a file named '/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d.distrib' it needs to be backed up elsewhere
[03:58] <MKCoin> ok
[03:58] <pfifo> MKCoin: but that file is easilly replaceable, its in the package sysv-rc
[03:58] <MKCoin> thanks
[03:58] <fishcooker> its command line, Beldar AFAIK the apps only grub-install
[03:59] <Beldar> fishcooker, grub-install is a command not an app.
[04:00] <MKCoin> bleh, throwing the old error now.
[04:00] <pfifo> MKCoin: its trying to upgrade procps AGAIN?
[04:00] <MKCoin> yeah
[04:00] <XMLnewbi> wow, so I just got a Beaglebone to boot on ubuntu 13.04, but it wont update, and the lan internet doesnt seem to be working
[04:01] <XMLnewbi> not even sure where to start on lan drivers
[04:01] <pfifo> MKCoin: well you can fix it again using the same method, add the diversion, make a symlink, update and upgrade, remove symlink, remove diversion
[04:01] <MKCoin> Ok, I will try that again.
[04:02] <pfifo> MKCoin: hopefully at some point your procps will be current and this will all be over
[04:02] <Beldar> fishcooker, I would be interested in seeing the bootinfo summary from the boot repair app to give any real advice.
[04:03] <Simi90> hi all! My home folders (Pictures, Documents..) names are in english, while I run Ubuntu in french, how I revert them to french (It causes softlink issues)
[04:03] <MKCoin> Alright pfifo, I did it all again and it worked. Perhaps I mistyped the first time or whatever. Thank you for all your help.
[04:04] <MKCoin> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." beautiful
[04:05] <xangua> Simi90: adding xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update command to startup didn't work¿ do you have french language packages set up¿ did you ever deleted your main directories and create them aggain¿
[04:06] <pfifo> MKCoin: cheers
[04:06] <Simi90> xangua: it didnt work for me. I'm not really sure if I have french package but everything else on my OS is in french
[04:07] <Simi90> xangua: and the only modifications I made with them were adding softink to an other HDD
[04:08] <xangua> Simi90: is this a fresh install¿ you can check in language support, it will tell you if your language is or not fully installed
[04:09] <tbird> how do i sudo from a second user account i set up?
[04:10] <reisio> tbird: admin group?
[04:10] <bean> tbird, add it to the "admin" group I think.
[04:10] <tbird> its says im in admin group in users and groups, but when i sudo, it wont accept the password
[04:10] <reisio> tbird: what says?
[04:10] <tbird> terminal emulator
[04:10] <reisio> tbird: how do you make it say
[04:11] <tbird> gksudo thunar
[04:11] <reisio> gksudo says you're in the admin groups?
[04:11] <Simi90> xangua: it seems to be fully installed, it's been only a week since I've installed Ubuntu but it worked fine until I changed the language to english and then turned back to french
[04:11] <fishcooker> this is server, Beldar
[04:11] <reisio> tbird: run this: groups | grep admin
[04:11] <fishcooker> there is no gui thing here
[04:11] <tbird> oh no its whatever users and group applet that comes installed by default
[04:11] <Beldar> fishcooker, I know.
[04:12] <XMLnewbi> hmm, I know this lan is live, but getting no internet. ifconfig   it says its ip is 127.0.0.1 not sure where to start debugging
[04:14] <Beldar> fishcooker, You will need a live dvd/usb to fix this with or manually boot from grub> to the cli to fix.
[04:14] <fishcooker> is there any direction
[04:15] <Beldar> fishcooker, for?
[04:15] <fishcooker> http://shantanucse.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-recover-ubuntu-904-or-higher.html
[04:15] <fishcooker> no hope
[04:15] <zykotick9> reisio: tbird guys, you need to be in the "sudo" group, admin doesn't have anything to do with sudo use anymore.
[04:16] <tbird> yeah i put myself into sudo group in the users and groups thingy. i don't see myself in the groups | grep admin
[04:17] <pfifo> tbird: are you sure your using the right password?
[04:17] <qbmaniac> hello!
[04:17] <tbird> i've tried the root password, the main users password, and the secondary users password and it doesnt like any of it
[04:17] <zykotick9> tbird: i don't even have an "admin" group?  if you added yourself to a new group (ie sudo) - you NEED to log out and back in for it to apply!
[04:18] <Beldar> fishcooker, If you followed that link and it did not work than you will have to use other methods, there a handful.
[04:18] <tbird> that user was not logged in. i am logged into the primary user account to make changes
[04:18] <pfifo> tbird: sudo wants the password of the user who is running it, so if you sun sudo as user2, and you enter user1's password... fail, also if you never set a password for user2... fail
[04:18] <tbird> do i need to restart or something?
[04:18] <fishcooker> which one, Beldar
[04:18] <qbmaniac> tbird: restarting is rarely the solution in linux
[04:18] <fishcooker> any the best method?
[04:18] <Beldar> fishcooker, Did you see the grub info from the bot?
[04:19] <qbmaniac> guys, I have a question: I am completely and utterly bored to death, what can I do about it? (please refrain from "kill yourself" comments)
[04:19] <pfifo> qbmaniac: configure a postfix server
[04:19] <geekmasterflash> qbmaniac: Hack into 127.0.0.1
[04:20] <zykotick9> !ot
[04:20] <qbmaniac> pfifo: interesting, never done that before, might do so.
[04:20] <qbmaniac> zykotick9: I am well aware it is off-topic, but a single question does not hurt :)
[04:22] <pfifo> zykotick9: do you know much about the casper package? (just want to know for future reference)
[04:23] <zykotick9> pfifo: not i thing!  never even heard of them.  good luck
[04:23] <zykotick9> s/i/a/
[04:23] <pranav> please provide me a neat screen capture utility which allows us to make time-lapse video in ubuntu ?
[04:24] <pfifo> !info scrot | pranav
[04:24] <zykotick9> pfifo: ;) hey scrot was what i was thinking of... but didn't have the guts to suggest
[04:26]  * zykotick9 did have an issue yesterday where scrot didn't capture mplayer output correctly (it was transparent for some reason) haven't looked into it yet, used a workaround
[04:28] <pfifo> zykotick9: sounds like mplayer was using a video overlay, scrot wouldnt be able to access the info in the framebuffer, mplayer has options to use a video output device that dosent use an overlay, but it will reduce performance
[04:29] <zykotick9> pfifo: i've used scrot a million times to capture mplayer output.. this is the 1st time i've seen this issue...  but, ya might first guess is mplayer -vo option as well!  BUT it could also be an nvidia-propritary issue (that's where this issue first showed it's ugly head ;) my other systems are all libre/free
[04:30] <zykotick9> s/ya might/ya my/
[04:31] <pfifo> zykotick9: that makes it sound even more like an overlay, mplayer would definatly want to take advantage of the features of your graphics card once drivers are installed
[04:32] <pfifo> i think the default vo is GL which would be directly affected by changin to the propierty driver
[04:35] <zykotick9> pfifo: i'll play with it ;)  it sucked, 'cause i was in a RUSH to get a screenshot - ever used backtrack/kali?  check this out - https://pumpdog.me/zykotick9/image/y6JMXuF2QxaWgJHcdKiOKw (i hope you can see that image) </OT>
[04:38] <pfifo> of course I have used backtrack, i have used everything that is supposed to be 'unsupported' here, wouldnt be much of a rebel if I didnt :)
[04:39] <zykotick9> pfifo: <ot> lol, actually i can honestly say I NEVER used BT.  ironically, used used kali a lot </ot>
[04:40] <zykotick9> s/used used/i've used/
[04:42] <FlurglerHobbit> Hey all. I made a little python script that needs to be executed on startup. However when I set it in the startup applications program I get a message, "Failed to execute child" and the reason is because it didn't have the correct permission. What do I need to do?
[04:44] <pfifo> my VPS has the wrong time, it was off by -251 seconds. I just installed ntp, hopefully this dont happen again. kind weird there would be a clock skew on a VPS
[04:44] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: how are you running it?
[04:44] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: what do you mean?
[04:46] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: are you running python and providing the filename, or using a shebang and calling it directly
[04:46] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: Exec=/home/servu/Documents/startup.py
[04:47] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: did you make the script executable?
[04:47] <FlurglerHobbit> ohh man
[04:47] <FlurglerHobbit> i didn't even think about that
[04:47] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: hold on let me do that
[04:48] <pfifo> make sure when you run '/home/servu/Documents/startup.py' from command line it does what you expect
[04:48] <FlurglerHobbit> k done
[04:48] <bariho> is there any easy to use gui for configuring samba shares? samba's config file and man page are a bit overwhelming.
[04:49] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: in the line where I specify the file, how do I specify that I execute it as python?
[04:49] <FlurglerHobbit> I mean just specifying the file isn't enough from my understanding
[04:50] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: on the first line of the script add this '#!/usr/bin/python' (thats called a shebang)
[04:50] <FlurglerHobbit> i did that
[04:50] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: then all should be ok
[04:50] <FlurglerHobbit> awesome. Thanks pfifo
[04:50] <FlurglerHobbit> Testing it out now
[04:51] <FlurglerHobbit> success!
[04:52] <pfifo> cool
[04:54] <FlurglerHobbit> is it possible to make ubuntu boot without a head/keyboard/mouse?
[04:54] <reisio> FlurglerHobbit: yup
[04:55] <daftykins> FlurglerHobbit: of course
[04:55] <FlurglerHobbit> reisio; care to tell me? oh great wizzard
[04:55] <daftykins> unplug them, hit power = win
[04:55] <bhag_> :)
[04:55] <FlurglerHobbit> daftykins: that's now how it works
[04:55] <bhag_> I need help to install ubuntu touch on arm7 devices
[04:56] <FlurglerHobbit> not*
[04:56] <daftykins> FlurglerHobbit: i'm puzzled as to how it's any more complex?
[04:56] <FlurglerHobbit> daftykins: Ubuntu doesn't remember the hardware. It seeks it out every time it's powered on. If it doesn't see anything it throws an error
[04:57] <daftykins> FlurglerHobbit: if you don't want those things connected, are you trying to make a server?
[04:57] <FlurglerHobbit> yes
[04:59] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: yo might need to add 'text' to the boot options to prevent X from starting
[04:59] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: I have programs that require a GUI. Will that matter? I use them with ssh
[05:01] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: it depends on  what your doing, but generally you just have libX installed and use the -X option of ssh
[05:01] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: even if I make the server boot without a gui?
[05:01] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: It would just be vmware
[05:02] <Vivekananda> hey everyone a question. while in eclipse when I have a file in /home named foo.xml and open it via file = "foo.xml" it opens fine but I have a partition named /media/Yojimbo/path to file/foo.xml then it gives me a path error. What is the reason for it ? I copy and pasted the path exactly at it appears in pwd. What should I do to get the correct path for the file
[05:02] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: right, you dont need to start an X client on the server
[05:02] <FlurglerHobbit> awesome
[05:02] <FlurglerHobbit> mind giving me more info on what you said earlier?
[05:02] <FlurglerHobbit> I was afraid of trying that option for the reason I just expressed.
[05:03] <bhag_> How to install ubuntu touch on arm dev boards?
[05:03] <pfifo> !bootoptions | FlurglerHobbit
[05:03] <xangua> !touch | bhag_
[05:03] <bhag_> thanks xangua
[05:04] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: do a one time test of 'text' using grub's editor first, and if the results are good, make it permenant in /etc/defaults/grub
[05:05] <daftykins> Vivekananda: never use spaces in paths in Linux.
[05:06] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo thanks
[05:06] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: but you should be able to login on the command line even with 'text' and use nano/vim/emacs to revert, just have to plug in the keyboard and monitor
[05:07] <pfifo> im going to bed
[05:21] <geekmasterflash> Hello, I need help finding out what is causing my system to freeze
[05:21] <geekmasterflash> I have been forced to hard-boot 3 times in the last hour
[05:22] <wheatthin> First clue, open process manager and check :)
[05:22] <geekmasterflash> That's just it
[05:22] <geekmasterflash> Nothing there is out of the ordinary
[05:22] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: Temperature is was 40c at last crash
[05:22] <wheatthin> secondly, check your logs.. the size matters
[05:22] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: Which log? I am something of a newbie
[05:23] <wheatthin> check all logs for their size.. anything over 1gb would cause system to crawl.. I dunno about crashing..
[05:23] <wheatthin> check dmesg in the terminal, see if there's anything listed in there
[05:23] <bhag_> i am seeing black screen on bootup . How to resolve it?
[05:24] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: The largest thing in my /var/log is 1.8 MB
[05:24] <wheatthin> hmm.. .. what were you running during these crashes?
[05:25] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: Clementine and I was using Omegle (so my webcam and firefox)
[05:26] <maccam_> Hey all, I'm needing some help with permissions and file ownership for my webserver.  Anyone willing to give me a few pointers?
[05:26] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: Crash is total too, I can't drop to terminal or get any response to REISUB
[05:26] <wheatthin> bhag_, does this screen eventually go to a login screen?
[05:27] <bhag_> no wheatthin
[05:27] <bhag_> so i am hard rebooting 2 to 3 times to get the login screen
[05:27] <wheatthin> maccam_, try #ubuntu-server
[05:27] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Can you press Cntl+Alt+F1 to get to command line?
[05:27] <maccam_> wheatthin: thanks
[05:28] <bhag_> geekmasterflash__: no its not
[05:29] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Got a recovery disc?
[05:30] <bhag_> geekmasterflash: I dont have a recovery disc
[05:30] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Reboot and hold down shift
[05:30] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Hopefully that will bring you to GRUB
[05:30] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: And you should have a recovery console option there
[05:30] <bhag_> geekmasterflash__: After 2 to 3  times of hard reboot then its working fine
[05:31] <vadi> Which brand is more Linux-friendly - Asus, eVGA, Gigabyte or MSi? I'm looking to purchase a new high-tier video card.
[05:31] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Sounds like a hardware problem?
[05:31] <wheatthin> vadi, brand isn't what you look for, it's chipset.
[05:31] <geekmasterflash> vadi: I have an MSi Nvidia card in my system right now
[05:31] <reisio> vadi: those people make video cards?
[05:31] <geekmasterflash> vadi: And I am currently asking for help about random crashes
[05:31] <vadi> I know it's the chipset; but it's the brand that supports the video card.
[05:32] <vadi> ... oh, dear
[05:32] <geekmasterflash> vadi: Which I think might be related to the video
[05:32] <reisio> supports :p
[05:32] <wheatthin> neg.
[05:32] <bhag_> geekmasterflash: It is having a dual boot and windows working fine
[05:32] <SleePy> I need to install a package on a server, apt is telling me "The following packages will be REMOVED".  is there a way to prevent it from removing those packages?
[05:32] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Okay, so boot it up and get to GRUB
[05:33] <bhag_> geekmasterflash: I dont think its a hardware issue. Seems like some problem with video driver
[05:33] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: And there should be a recovery mode there
[05:33] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Unlikely
[05:33] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Because cnt;+alt+f1 should bring you to command line
[05:33] <bhag_> geekmasterflash: I will try the recovery
[05:33] <geekmasterflash> bhag_: Since it's not, that means linux never loaded
[05:35] <scipy53> I suddenly have developed a problem with flash not working in my browsers. I tried re-installing and all a few times now, no luck. Anyone else having such a problem?
[05:35] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: So presuming it's my video card, is there some log I could look at that would tell me what was going on when it froze up?
[05:35] <wheatthin> dmesg and Xorg.log.0 or whatever
[05:37] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: Whoa
[05:38] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: dmesg is mostly greek to me, but in my log I see something very strange
[05:38] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: At the time of my crash I see /00/00/00/00/00
[05:38] <geekmasterflash> Written dozens of times
[05:38] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: then what appears to be the log starting over for the next boot
[05:43] <wheatthin> geekmasterflash, you have you look at the end of the error, and see if it has an error code. Most likely it is hardware related, but which hardware I do not know.
[05:44] <wheatthin> during the crash itself, did your computer let out any beep codes?
[05:44] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: That's just it, there is no error
[05:45] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: I see some (WW) lists, but they are mostly just telling me that they can't verify my HorizSync range
[05:45] <wheatthin> that could be a problem of the video not turning on.
[05:45] <wheatthin> EIDE failing
[05:46] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: Obviously my video is working. We are having this conversation from the machine in question
[05:46] <wheatthin> right, but might be a sign about the monitor going out.
[05:46] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: That would cause a total system freeze?
[05:46] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: what version of ubuntu? you should run a ssh server to see if that responds during a crash
[05:46] <wheatthin> no, but would make it seem like it.
[05:47] <wheatthin> ^^
[05:47] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: I am on 13.10 Gnome-Ubuntu 64bit
[05:47] <Ben64> system specs?
[05:47] <geekmasterflash> wheatthin: But REISUB didn't respond
[05:47] <maccam__> wheatthin: that place is like a tomb.  Can you recommend a lively linux irc channel that can help me with my server questions?
[05:48] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: AMD FX(tm)-9590 Eight-Core Processor × 8 GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2 15.6 GiB memory
[05:48] <Ben64> maccam__: ask your question
[05:48] <wheatthin> maccam__, Just be patient, usually the people in here are in there too
[05:48] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: 60 GB SSD (/) and 500 GB HDD (/home)
[05:48] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: 8 gpus?
[05:48] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: 8 cores on my processor
[05:49] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-660/specifications is my graphics card specs
[05:49] <Ben64> so its a desktop
[05:49] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Yes.
[05:50] <Dante123> Test
[05:50] <Dante123> Test
[05:50] <Ben64> Dante123: stop
[05:50] <Dante123> Working
[05:50] <Ben64> this is not a test channel, go somewhere else
[05:51] <Dante123> Testing android irc app,  grumpy today or what?
[05:51] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: It's odd, my system is stable right now with not music playing and no webcam on. Once I start both, it crashes about 5 minutes later
[05:52] <Ben64> Dante123: there are 1641 people here, the channel needs to stay on topic. if you want to spam meaningless lines, make your own channel
[05:52] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: I can even stress test the gpu and it wont die on me
[05:53] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: install a ssh server and monitor what happens when you start both
[05:53] <Dante123> Two lines consisting of 8 letters total hardly constitutes spam.  Chill.
[05:53] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Okay, installing the ssh server I think I can do. How would I monitor once I ssh in?
[05:54] <Ben64> Dante123: its the channel rules. just stop. it's very easy to make your own channel to spam in
[05:54] <arun> Hello guys has anyone used Linux Deepin Software Center?
[05:55] <YatharthROCK> Hi. When I connect to an external monitor on my ASUS laptop running 13.04, I get monitor flickering. Strange part is, it only happens in the areas where the desktop is visible, and not in other applications. It's driving me mad; what could be the cuase?
[05:56] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: you can check logs, use htop, atop, iotop, and other stuff
[05:56] <eb0t> hi i need help with atftp server
[05:57] <eb0t> how do i shut it down
[05:58] <sandman13> i am trying to customize xfce4 with ambiance theme but it requires overwriting Ambiance folder in /usr/share/themes, is it okay to modify the files in this directory?
[05:58] <Ben64> sandman13: you should be able to use ~/.themes
[05:59] <arun> Hello guys has anyone used Linux Deepin Software Center?
[05:59] <Ben64> !anyone | arun
[05:59] <eb0t> from my experience you can only help with the easy stuff
[05:59] <eb0t> none of you even heard of atftp server
[06:00] <eb0t> but it was worht a shot
[06:00] <arun> Why can't I install some softwares like deluge , gnucash ,etc using Deepin Software Center !!! gUYS PLEASE HELP ME !!
[06:00] <Ben64> eb0t: yeah, thats the attitude you want for people to volunteer their time to help you
[06:00] <eb0t> dont wat our help
[06:00] <Ben64> arun: what is the deepin software center?
[06:00] <eb0t> i ve asked before and no joy
[06:00] <Ben64> eb0t: then you can leave
[06:00] <eb0t> no
[06:00] <sandman13> Ben64 that didn't work have a look at it's installation guide http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=141027
[06:00] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Alright, SSH server set up. Trying to cause system freeze again
[06:00] <eb0t> i want to tell people the truth
[06:01] <arun> Ben64: its a software Center
[06:01] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: good luck? ha
[06:01] <eb0t> your all windows boys playing at linux
[06:02] <Ben64> arun: ok, looks like deepin is an unsupported ubuntu derivative, we cannot support it here. you should find a deepin support channel if one exists
[06:03] <eb0t> told you ...ha ha
[06:03] <sandman13> Ben64 what should i do?
[06:03] <Beldar> arun, you using the Linux Deepin Software Center or what?
[06:03] <arun> Ben64: yes
[06:03] <arun> sorry
[06:03] <arun> Beldar: yes
[06:04] <xmetal> hmm
[06:04] <Beldar> arun, Use the command line or the ubuntu software center.
[06:04] <arun> Ben64: yes, but many guys uses this , so, I was asking how to fix that !!! If I don't violate the privacy !!
[06:04] <arun> Beldar: can't I fix that thing ??
[06:04] <arun> Beldar: I liked it but, I was wanting to fix the problem !!!
[06:05] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: So
[06:05] <Beldar> arun, never heard of it in 7 years of using ubuntu, ppa's are not supported here is all.
[06:05] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: It crashed
[06:05] <Ben64> arun: again, we cannot support that derivative here
[06:05] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: And I can't ssh to it
[06:05] <Ben64> geekmasterflash_: :(
[06:05] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: So it's not just my monitor or xorg dying
[06:05] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: so what are the actual things that prompt it to crash?
[06:05] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: It's definately a system lockup
[06:06] <Ben64> you said music and webcam? which apps
[06:06] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: Firefox
[06:06] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: Clementine
[06:06] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: Flash
[06:06] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: Basically nothing else
[06:06] <Ben64> have you tried just one of those at a time
[06:06] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: Yes, it's stable
[06:06] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: I can watch youtube videos all day
[06:06] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: Listen to music
[06:07] <geekmasterflash_> Ben64: but the second I do this, whole system lock
[06:07] <Ben64> what exactly is "this"
[06:09] <awyea> hi im trying to configure outside access to my nginx server, but the port seems to be closed - i forwarded the port on the router, but the problem seems to be with my ubuntu server, either iptables or the firewall(which i think i disabled - not permanent) what should i try?
[06:10] <Ben64> awyea: use nmap to verify the port is open on the correct interface
[06:10] <zerooneone> how do i find the *actual* upstream version of ruby that's in ruby Version: 1.9.3.0-1ubuntu2.7 without installing it?
[06:11] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Sorry, for some reason I couldnt send after changing my nick
[06:12] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: "this" seems to be playing clementine and using the webcam, but it could also be using the sound and video at once
[06:12] <Ben64> the only thing i could think of is a pulseaudio problem, but i'm biased against pulseaudio
[06:13] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: I am not positive what is causing it other than right now, the second I play music and start chatting I am bound to crash within 5 minutes
[06:13] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: You don't think it could be my video card?
[06:14] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Alright, let me kill pulse audio and try it
[06:14] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: See if that causes it to happen again
[06:15] <awyea> k i scanned with nmap and it didnt show up. where do i start?
[06:15] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: ... I can't seem to kill it, it just auto-relanched
[06:16] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: try running the program(s) with pasuspender in front
[06:17] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: So, pasuspnder clementine
[06:17] <Ben64> yeah
[06:17] <Ben64> or just "pulseaudio --kill"
[06:17] <Ben64> i remove pulseaudio on every install i do, so i'm not 100% on whats best for a temporary disable
[06:18] <YatharthROCK> Hi. When I connect to an external monitor on my ASUS laptop running 13.04, I get monitor flickering. Strange part is, it only happens in the areas where the desktop is visible, and not in other applications. It's driving me mad; what could be the cuase?
[06:19] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Alright, no more pulseaudio
[06:20] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: lol, and Clementine is now frozen
[06:20] <Ben64> well thats better than your whole computer?
[06:20] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Yes, lets see if I crash with it killed
[06:21] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Chatting it up
[06:22] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Hmm, now firefox is locking up
[06:22] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: But it's not locking my whole computer
[06:23] <Ben64> weird
[06:23] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Without Pulse on neither program wants to launch
[06:23] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Well, firefox does but it dies the second I try to initalize my webcam and mix
[06:23] <geekmasterflash> mic*
[06:31] <chare> cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler
[06:31] <chare> noop [deadline] cfq
[06:31] <chare> what does that mean?
[06:31] <chare> why are there three things listed
[06:34] <robierob> guys i am trying to install ATI Radeon drivers for my card any one can help????
[06:35] <robierob> web site isnt helping and i dont know what to do now
[06:35] <wheatthin> !ati | robierob
[06:36] <robierob> ok i will look at it then come back
[06:44] <Blaster> hey I accidentally made ubuntu full screen using a function key but it doesn't seem to be wanting to exit the fullscreen
[06:44] <Blaster> vim is stuck full screen
[06:47] <geekmasterflash> Anyone want to help me figure out why my computer keeps locking up?
[06:48] <reisio> Blaster: F11 maybe?
[06:49] <Blaster> reisio: yup thx
[06:51] <reisio> geekmasterflash: works better if you just say what your problem is
[06:51] <reisio> that way nobody has to type this boring explanation that I'm typing
[06:52] <Nothing_Much> #ubuntu-arm is inactive, is there a problem with the dependencies for the Linux Kernel on Ubuntu 13.10?
[06:54] <xangua> Nothing_Much: or maybe your question is too vage
[06:54] <vedic> is it possible to find if somebody has tried logging into the server via Live CD? or single user mode?
[06:54] <vedic> I checked "last reboot|less" and it says that few days back somebody had restarted the remote server. I want to know if he was successful in logging in by any means
[06:55] <robierob> radoe stuff installed any one please can you assit so i can figure out whats the issue...
[06:55] <Nothing_Much> xangua: I mean, I'm having dependency problems with upgrading to 3.11
[06:55] <robierob> hey geekmasterflash :
[06:55] <reisio> vedic: via live OS not really, not unless the BIOS keeps track
[06:56] <reisio> vedic: physical access is guaranteed access, even if it's encrypted, to anyone with half a brain
[06:56] <reisio> vedic: if you want to be aware of changes made to a system, then you need to take stock of what your system is made up of beforehand
[06:57] <vedic> reisio: How to find login date times?
[06:57] <reisio> /var/log/
[06:57] <vedic> reisio: I only intend to find last couple of login attemps
[06:57] <reisio> vedic: what will you do if you find out someone logged in?
[06:58] <robierob> guys....i am having issues with grafix drivers dose any one in here know how to handle ATI radeons.....i am not total noob but i cant figur it our
[06:58] <robierob> out
[06:59] <vedic> reisio: My job is to inform it to senior admin with all possible details. Taking action or pinpointing the incedent is not my job. We have camera in place. If I can figure out the date and time, we can just look at the video recordings
[06:59] <reisio> vedic: :p
[06:59] <vedic> reisio: How to find in /var/log
[06:59] <reisio> vedic: /var/log/ is a directory
[07:00] <reisio> it's at /var/log/
[07:00] <robierob> ATI's Scare poeple i know but please any help.... lol
[07:01] <vedic> reisio: come on, I know its directory. Which file to track. Example "last reboot" tells me when the system was last rebooted
[07:01] <vedic> Any command to give details like that
[07:02] <Morph4me> ls /var/log see whats in there
[07:02] <vedic> Morph4me: Thank you
[07:02] <vedic> Anybody else?
[07:02] <reisio> vedic: start with messages
[07:04] <robierob> guys whats the terminal comand to list the current running video driver
[07:04] <Morph4me> vedic: an example > cat /var/log/boot.log
[07:05] <vedic> Morph4me: Thank you Morph4me
[07:05] <reisio> robierob: sudo lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1
[07:06] <robierob> reisio: do you know anything about ATI's radeon cards?>
[07:06] <arun> Hello all guys
[07:06] <robierob> thank you BTW
[07:06] <reisio> robierob: I know literally certain amounts of things about ATI's radeon cards
[07:06] <reisio> arun: 'lo
[07:07] <robierob> well i just installed what i think is the ubuntu version of the ATI grafix card driver and i need help to make sure everything is on the up and up
[07:07] <robierob> so i can start to work on why i cant play team fortress on steam... lol
[07:08] <robierob> can you help me trouble shoot the os side of things
[07:08] <reisio> robierob: glxinfo | egrep -i 'vendor|direct'
[07:08] <zykotick9> reisio: lspci doesn't need sudo
[07:09] <reisio> zykotick9: why not?
[07:09] <robierob> reisio:   http://pastebin.com/Qau3A5he
[07:09] <XMLnewbi> I installed terminator with sudo apt-get install terminator      how do i run it?   though it was just terminator but when I run that im getting       Bash: terminator:command not found
[07:10] <Lope> I'm running out of space on my linux partition and need to make it bigger. what do you guys recommend? sda1 is NTFS windows 32GB, sda2 is Linux Swap 32GB (I have 32GB RAM), sda3 is linux 32GB, sda4 is Linux LVM (containing 1x 334GB volume) is 638GB. sda3 is running out of space. (750MB free) its got my home dir in it as well.
[07:10] <zykotick9> reisio: 'cause you don't need to be root.  using sudo unnecessarily is unwise.
[07:10] <reisio> robierob: okay, that isn't great :)
[07:10] <robierob> lol freaking tell me about it... lol
[07:10] <Lope> So I could either resize sda4 to make the LVM start later on the disk, and then resize sda3 to be bigger, or relocate my home dir onto LVM or something?
[07:10] <reisio> zykotick9: so you don't know
[07:10] <zykotick9> reisio: what?
[07:10] <reisio> XMLnewbi: dpkg -L terminator | grep -i bin
[07:11] <robierob> whats it saying in human terms....
[07:11] <reisio> Lope: do you hibernate?
[07:11] <robierob> only for the winter?
[07:11] <reisio> Lope: you can clearly afford to go out and buy more storage :) it is cheap
[07:12] <Lope> reisio: I'd like to but its not possible because my swap is encrypted and I haven't done the hack where the swap gets encrypted with a password instead of /dev/random
[07:12] <reisio> robierob: it's not working enough to have useful info :)
[07:12] <Lope> hibernation is not a priority but I'd like to get it working at some point.
[07:12] <reisio> Lope: k
[07:12] <robierob> how do we kill it and restart... i am faairly quick with terminal
[07:12] <reisio> Lope: I'd get more space
[07:12] <Lope> reisio: if you read more carefully my LVM is only half full
[07:13] <reisio> Lope: 750MB is plenty of free space for a system you aren't actively generated many megs of data on
[07:13] <Lope> dude my LVM is only half full
[07:13] <reisio> Lope: put home in your lvm then
[07:13] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: I fixed it!
[07:13] <Lope> okay well this is what I need help with :)
[07:13] <reisio> robierob: kill what?
[07:13] <Lope> what about resizing the LVM partition to be smaller and sda3 to be bigger
[07:13] <Lope> is that possible?
[07:13] <reisio> Lope: yeah
[07:13] <Lope> or is it safest/easiest to move home to LVM? my home is encfs
[07:14] <robierob> everything.... lol it driving me crazy.... geekmaster helped eirlier but he dosent know much about grafix cards from ATI
[07:14] <reisio> Lope: why do you have an lvm and then additional unix partitions not within it?
[07:14] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Hello again robierob
[07:14] <robierob> geek... i am hurting man... lol
[07:14] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: how?
[07:14] <reisio> robierob: can you pastebin lspci -n ?
[07:15] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: I nuked xserver-xorg and switched drivers to nvidia-319-updates
[07:15] <sgo11> hi, I saw many tcp connections from my localhost:22 to another IP address. why? how can I check if someone logging in my ssh server? thanks.
[07:15] <Ben64> sgo11: should  be in your logs
[07:15] <sgo11> 192.168.1.103:22 -- ip:random_port.
[07:15] <zerooneone> sgo11: probably dictionary attacks
[07:15] <Lope> reisio: because this is my first linux install that I use as a main system and I didn't know much about LVM. I didn't know you can run the entire system on LVM
[07:16] <sgo11> Ben64, ssh logs?
[07:16] <robierob> reisio: geekmasterflash:    http://pastebin.com/UP718Yts
[07:16] <reisio> Lope: okay, well
[07:16] <reisio> Lope: the long term ideal solution may well be to put everything into the lvm
[07:16] <reisio> Lope: then you can resize things really easily in future
[07:17] <Lope> reisio: initially sda4 was an extended partition with a NTFS partition inside it and linux kept corrupting it, and I couldn't preserve permissions copying files into it. it was a disaster. so I removed it then decided to experience LVM.
[07:17] <XMLnewbi> bha what is this crazy bash crap. Im trying to do sudo rm keyinwrongplace.pub        and its replying back   bash: pub  event not found
[07:18] <Lope> reisio: yeah I get that. is there an easy way to copy off my entire system and then reload it back onto LVM? :)
[07:18] <geekmasterflash> robierob: .I am taking it you didn't get the drivers installed?
[07:18] <sgo11> Ben64, zerooneone yeah, I saw those failed attempts in /var/log/auth.log. very weird. why do they want to do this?
[07:18] <reisio> XMLnewbi: can you relay the command more precisely?
[07:18] <robierob> i installed it as per the website
[07:18] <Lope> can you run swap on LVM?
[07:18] <robierob> this is where i am at after 6 hours
[07:18] <reisio> Lope: you can do whatever in an LVM
[07:18] <robierob> i might need a little more hand holding... :(
[07:19] <sgo11> dictionary attacks will never succeed. my password is extremely long.
[07:19] <reisio> Lope: it's a little involved after the fact, and resizing partitions isn't 100% (more like 90% safe)
[07:19] <XMLnewbi> there is a file, a ssh in the wrong dir.          im trying to remove it.             sudo rm filename.pub                   it doest not delete, and returns          bash: ! .pub: event not found
[07:19] <reisio> Lope: you got everything backed up?
[07:20] <reisio> XMLnewbi: are you sure your command hasn't random spaces in it, like your IRC msgs?
[07:20] <Lope> reisio: not really. I've got my important data backed up. but I don't have a full backup of my home dir or my linux fs etc.
[07:20] <Nothing_Much> #ubuntu-arm is inactive, is there a problem with the dependencies for the Linux Kernel on Ubuntu 13.10?
[07:20] <Ben64> sgo11: there are bots that try it all the time, its not a big deal unless you have a weak user/pass
[07:20] <zerooneone> sgo11: i get 1000s of attempts. that's what happens if you use the standard sshd port
[07:20] <reisio> Lope: well to be 100% safe you'd need one of those :p
[07:21] <Ben64> Nothing_Much: unlikely
[07:21] <zykotick9> sgo11: if you run an ssh server connetable from the internet, i'd HIGHLY suggest you look into use fail2ban
[07:21] <reisio> Lope: and since you should really have one anyways...
[07:21] <Lope> I just figured if it gets messed up I'll reinstall, but I suppose thats silly cos I'd have downtime.
[07:21] <reisio> is it a server?
[07:21] <Nothing_Much> Ben64: Then how come I can't upgrade my kernel from 3.4 to 3.11?
[07:21] <XMLnewbi> yes...
[07:21] <sgo11> Ben64, thanks.
[07:21] <XMLnewbi> and if there was a typo it should do command not found
[07:21] <Ben64> Nothing_Much: no idea, you should wait for #ubuntu-arm people to show up
[07:21] <XMLnewbi> not that insaine bash crap
[07:21] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Can you give me a better idea of where "here" is?
[07:22] <sgo11> zerooneone, thanks. this is just home PCs. I will turn off DMZ setup in the home router.
[07:22] <sgo11> zykotick9, thanks a lot. I will look into fail2ban. very useful for my server.
[07:22] <robierob> geekmasterflash: ok.....i istalled the drivers from ...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver     and got rid of the others.... thats it... and its still not working
[07:23] <tbird> i want to point http://mydomain.com to localhost in the hosts file. how do i do this?
[07:23] <Ben64> tbird: it has example(s) in the file
[07:24] <robierob> the driver or the card or something isnt running properly....geekmasterflash:
[07:24] <tbird> i have: mydomain.com localhost
[07:24] <tbird> it does not work
[07:24] <robierob> terminals skills to the rescure geekmasterflash:
[07:24] <tbird> what is the correct syntax?
[07:24] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Give me a pastebin of sudo lspci -v -s 01:05.0
[07:25] <Lope> at the moment sda2 is swap, sda3 is linux + home dir. sda4 is LVM. Can I back them up, then remove sda2+3+4 and make one LVM then copy my linuxFS onto a new volume, home onto its own volume, and another volume for data. how would I get grub working after that?
[07:25] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: you don't need sudo with lspci (don't use sudo unnecessarily)
[07:25] <geekmasterflash> zykotick9: Woops
[07:25] <robierob> geekmasterflash: http://pastebin.com/km5xUJMy
[07:26] <geekmasterflash> robierob: You still dont have any drivers
[07:26] <robierob> grrr.....k
[07:26] <robierob> what the hell is this last 6 hour been my just fummbling around... grrrrr frustrating geekmasterflash:
[07:26] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Did you make sure your card was compatable with the driver you installed?
[07:27] <robierob> yes.... its a ati radeon rs690m   1200 series
[07:27] <Lope> at the moment sda2 is swap, sda3 is linux + home dir. sda4 is LVM. Can I back them up, then remove sda2+3+4 and make one LVM then copy my linuxFS onto a new volume, home onto its own volume, and another volume for data. how would I get grub working after that?
[07:27] <geekmasterflash> robierob: I might be wrong, since my experiance is only with nvidia cards, but I don't see a kernel driver in use: section on that pastebin
[07:27] <Lope> oops sorry for repeating
[07:28] <Lope> I meant to say at the moment sda2 is swap, sda3 is linux + home dir. sda4 is LVM. Can I back them up, then remove sda2+3+4 and make one LVM then copy my linuxFS onto a new volume, home onto its own volume, and another volume for data. how would I get grub working after that?
[07:28] <robierob> kernal?
[07:28] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Which is telling me that your card isn't using the driver
[07:28] <robierob> ahhh
[07:28] <robierob> k....
[07:28] <Ben64> tbird: follow the syntax of the examples in the file...
[07:28] <Lope> shit my clipboard fucked out sorry.
[07:28] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: i think you need -k with lspci to see the driver line
[07:28] <robierob> we are back to this morning
[07:28] <Ben64> Lope: watch the language here
[07:28] <Lope> sorry. I can plug my HDD into another PC. I know how to backup, remove the partitions, create an LVM and volumes and copy the data back. but after that I dunno how to get grub working?
[07:29] <geekmasterflash> zykotick9: Oh? I get the driver line with just -v -s
[07:29] <Ben64> Lope: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair very good tool
[07:29] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Okay, try zykotick9 's suggestion
[07:29] <robierob> k command?
[07:29] <tbird> this is the syntax: "127.0.0.1	localhost" this is what i did: "ragtrade.5gbfree.com	localhost" then i reboot, clear history and test, and bang it still goes to the live site instead of pointing back to the dev site
[07:29] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Give me a pastebin of lspci -v -s -k 01:05.0
[07:29] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: ya, your -v does it (fyi, when you have 2 or more single letter switches, you can combine them "lspci -vs" type thing)
[07:30] <tbird> @ Ben64
[07:30] <Lope> can boot reparit get grub to boot linux from a LVM volume?
[07:30] <Ben64> tbird: because you didn't follow the same pattern...
[07:30] <robierob> geek master flash....   lspci: -s: Invalid slot number
[07:30] <Lope> boot-repair I mean.
[07:30] <tbird> then can you please explain it rather than act like a batman villain?
[07:30] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Give me a pastebin of lspci -vsk 01:05.0
[07:31] <robierob> k
[07:31] <Ben64> tbird: come on, you can figure it out. 127.0.0.1 is what? localhost is what?
[07:31] <robierob> geekmasterflash:     robert@robert-T-1616:~$ lspci -vsk 01:05.0
[07:31] <robierob> lspci: -s: Invalid slot number
[07:31] <geekmasterflash> robierob: lspci -vk 01:05.0
[07:31] <tbird> ....
[07:31] <robierob> ok
[07:32] <tbird> DUDE
[07:32] <geekmasterflash> robierob: I am dumb
[07:32] <geekmasterflash> robierob: lspci -k 0s 01:05.0
[07:32] <geekmasterflash> robierob: lspci -ks 01:05.0
[07:32] <robierob> geek you just broke my terminal
[07:32] <Ben64> geekmasterflash, robierob: s needs to be the final option before the address
[07:33] <tbird> what is the correct syntax? the computer cant do it's job if im not typing it in right
[07:33] <amitprakash> Hi, on my ubuntu system, packages installed using pip do not work in imports? how do i resolve this
[07:33] <robierob>  lol
[07:33] <robierob> k
[07:33] <Ben64> tbird: seriously? you can't tell the difference between 127.0.0.1 and ragtrade.5gbfree.com ?
[07:33] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: lol
[07:33] <Kurvivor> hello! I want to share some folders/files from my ubuntu computer. What would be better: make a ftp server or share them using samba?
[07:34] <zykotick9> amitprakash: just a side note, but installing software with pip isn't really an ubuntu issue...  it's like using a ppa - 3rd party stuff.  best of luck.
[07:34] <tbird> 127 is source, both are on the source side. if this is not correct, you nor the file has explained otherwise
[07:34] <robierob> ok.....so whats the call geekmasterflash?
[07:34] <arun> Kurko: u can host an ftp server
[07:34] <zykotick9> ftp must die!
[07:34] <Ben64> tbird: hint: one is an ip address
[07:34] <tbird> what is so hard about telling me what order to type words?
[07:34] <Ben64> tbird: maybe hosting isn't your cup of tea
[07:34] <tbird> im not hosting
[07:34] <geekmasterflash> robierob: did you get the output from lspci -ks 01:05.0
[07:34] <geekmasterflash> robierob: ?
[07:34] <robierob> just a sec
[07:35] <tbird> how is anyone ever supposed to learn if no one is willing to explain anything?
[07:35] <Ben64> i just did
[07:35] <Ben64> not my fault if you didn't listen
[07:35] <helmut_> hi
[07:35] <robierob> geekmasterflash:    http://pastebin.com/47vwmh6u
[07:35] <tbird> you could have just said "127.0.0.1 mydomain.com" instead of dragging this out so long
[07:36] <Ben64> tbird: or you could have followed the syntax from the one above like i told you
[07:36] <geekmasterflash> robierob: As I thought, still no driver
[07:36] <geekmasterflash> robierob: This is beyond me, but you at least know your problem
[07:36] <robierob> k......
[07:36] <Lope> tbird quit whining. if you want help you should be greatful you get help. try work on gratitude and kindness and you'll experience more of it from others.
[07:36] <robierob> poop
[07:36] <geekmasterflash> robierob: You've installed your driver, but it's not being used by your card
[07:37] <robierob> ok
[07:37] <robierob> lol
[07:37] <tbird> you people would be fired in a day.
[07:37] <Lope> tbird go away dude
[07:37] <Ben64> !attitude | tbird
[07:37] <geekmasterflash> robierob: You probably need to write an xorg conf
[07:37] <zerooneone> irc doesn't pay very well
[07:37] <tbird> !attitude Ben64
[07:37] <robierob> ahhh,.... i heard that some where
[07:37] <geekmasterflash> robierob: I suggest asking for help with that in mind
[07:37] <robierob> dont know how though
[07:37] <Ben64> excuse me for trying to get  you to think, tbird
[07:37] <robierob> ok
[07:37] <geekmasterflash> robierob: I am not the one to help with that.
[07:38] <geekmasterflash> robierob: But it's at least better than 6 hours of not knowing what is wrong
[07:38] <Ben64> robierob: could you pastebin lspci?
[07:38] <Ben64> robierob: and while you're at it, lsmod
[07:38] <robierob> ok.........dose any one know how to write a xorg .confg   tweak to get my grafix card to use the driver i have?
[07:38] <robierob> ok
[07:39] <robierob> just a sec
[07:40] <robierob> ben64:   dude here... tell me good news i am about to cry   http://pastebin.com/QcXq1PS4
[07:41] <robierob> geekmasterflash: dude thanks for your time man....
[07:42] <Ben64> robierob: preliminary googling shows that your card is no longer supported by the current amd driver
[07:42] <robierob> ......i just installed a version from ubuntu site... and it says it was... :(
[07:43] <robierob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[07:43] <amitprakash> how do I reinstall all python pacakges
[07:43] <Ben64> which version of ubuntu do you have?
[07:43] <robierob> um i want to say 13.10.... its was from a CD i got in barnes and noble 3 days ago
[07:43] <robierob> xubuntu
[07:44] <Ben64> "lsb_release -a" to find out
[07:44] <robierob> k
[07:44] <robierob> 13.04 raring
[07:45] <Ben64> and the page you linked to is about the open source driver
[07:45] <robierob> i think so yes
[07:45] <Ben64> not amd's driver. i would suggest to use the open source one, it has better support for older chips
[07:45] <robierob> yes it has my card listed
[07:45] <robierob> rs690m    1200 series
[07:46] <robierob> ati radeon express
[07:46] <devon_> Hello
[07:46] <Ben64> robierob: did you do this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx
[07:46] <robierob> ok....well ben64... lets take this trip.... lead the way
[07:47] <robierob> yes..... only some thing were removed other didnt exist
[07:47] <Alex____> When installing Ubuntu alongside Win7, I cannot install onto the SSD that Win7 is on. If I install to my HDD, my machine always loads into Win7 because I never hit the boot loader that (I assume) was installed onto the HDD
[07:47] <Alex____> Has anyone seen this before?
[07:47] <robierob> should i try again to make sure?
[07:48] <Ben64> robierob: can't hurt
[07:48] <robierob> ok give me 5 mins
[07:49] <grahamsavage> SystemError: E:The package astrill needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. << Ubuntu Software Center is broken and this is the error in the log file
[07:49] <grahamsavage> how can i fix it
[07:50] <robierob> ben64:   done
[07:50] <robierob> restart?
[07:50] <Ben64> one more thing before
[07:50] <robierob> ok
[07:51] <Ben64> grep -i radeon /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[07:51] <robierob> ben64:  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf:blacklist radeonfb
[07:51] <Ben64> ok thats fine
[07:51] <robierob> k
[07:51] <mollison> if i buy a USB cd/dvd reader/writer, do i need to worry about buying one for which drivers are specifically available, or is that typically not a problem?
[07:51] <robierob> restart?
[07:52] <Ben64> sure
[07:52] <robierob> k see you in 5
[07:52] <Ben64> mollison: i've never seen that be a problem
[07:52] <Artemis3> mollison, not a problem
[07:52] <mollison> ok, awesome, thanks guys
[07:53] <grahamsavage> can anyone help me with my ubuntu software problem?
[07:54] <grahamsavage> i can't open it
[07:55] <robierob> ben64: back
[07:55] <amitprakash> Hi, I am getting a  libpq-dev : Depends: libpq5 (= 9.1.10-0ubuntu12.04) but 9.2.4-0ppa1~lucid is to be installed , how do I resolve this/
[07:56] <robierob> ben64 ok how do i check the drivers?
[07:57] <Beldar> grahamsavage, run software-center and look for errors
[07:59] <Ben64> robierob: lshw -C VIDEO
[07:59] <robierob> ok
[07:59] <grahamsavage> i get this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a70cfb36722eaffcc535
[07:59] <grahamsavage> i've got no idea how to fix it though
[07:59] <Ben64> robierob: or try running glxgears or something to see if you got 3d
[07:59] <zykotick9> Ben64: lshw does need sudo i believe (why i don't like it ;)
[08:00] <Ben64> zykotick9: it doesn't actually :)
[08:00] <robierob> ben64 ok just a sec
[08:00] <amitprakash> Anyone?
[08:01] <amitprakash_> Hi, I am getting a  libpq-dev : Depends: libpq5 (= 9.1.10-0ubuntu12.04) but 9.2.4-0ppa1~lucid is to be installed , how do I resolve this?
[08:01] <robierob> ben64:    http://pastebin.com/1JiwqVgT
[08:01] <Beldar> grahamsavage, seems like a broken package were did you get astrill?
[08:01] <zykotick9> amitprakash_: my 2 issues with your question 1) PPA and 2) Lucid
[08:02] <grahamsavage> belder: sudo dpkg -i astrill-setup-linux64.deb
[08:02] <grahamsavage> but i don't know how to revert it or uninstall it or whatever
[08:03] <Beldar> grahamsavage, you can tab complete nicks, I believe astril is not in the repos, where did you get it from.
[08:03] <amitprakash_> zykotick9, its on an amazon ec2 server
[08:03] <grahamsavage> Beldar: i downloaded it from the astrill website
[08:03] <grahamsavage> the issue is i seem unable to remove it or reinstall it
[08:05] <geekmasterflash> robierob: WHat happens when you run glxgears?
[08:05] <robierob> hmmm
[08:06] <robierob> you got it?
[08:06] <geekmasterflash> robierob: Got what?
[08:07] <robierob> check you private tab
[08:07] <robierob> nothing aperenty
[08:07] <zykotick9> Ben64: while i do get a "WARNING: you should run this program as super-user." it seems to output fine (with my -c VIDEO test anyways).  THANKS!  i wonder if that's changed, cause i swear that used to need sudo just to run...
[08:08] <Beldar> grahamsavage, Technically we do not support 3rd party apps, however I found this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/237352/software-center-internal-error-astrill-vpn-install
[08:09] <grahamsavage> Beldar: ah thankyou for that.. I can't actually open the page because it's blocked
[08:09] <grahamsavage> ok it's not.. just loaded
[08:09] <grahamsavage> :)
[08:10] <robierob> any one elese have ATI grafix cards they were able the slay the monster of driver installs?
[08:12] <robierob> ben64: you alive?
[08:12] <Ben65_> robierob: yeah
[08:12] <robierob> lol....
[08:12] <robierob> you upgraded?
[08:12] <robierob> whats next?
[08:14] <TDGPU> how could I add sftp?
[08:14] <TDGPU> wht should i tweak in the sshd?
[08:15] <droimerak> hello to all
[08:15] <zykotick9> TDGPU: scp/sftp should work OOTB?
[08:15] <droimerak> im looking an app. a web editor PHP, somebody can help me?
[08:15] <TDGPU> zykotick9: no it says refused connection
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> droimerak: maybe try the php channel?
[08:16] <zykotick9> TDGPU: can you ssh normally with that user?
[08:16] <droimerak> thanks aeon!!!
[08:18] <TDGPU> zykotick9: yes i am connected to my server via ssh connection right now
[08:18] <zykotick9> TDGPU: that's odd - i got nothin'.  best of luck.
[08:19] <robierob> ben65_: geekmasterflash: dude thanks for the help but i am caling it a night.....we aint getting anywhere.....ill try more tommorow....thank you
[08:19] <TDGPU> anyone knows if there is a line in sshd config file to allow SFTP?
[08:22] <reisio> TDGPU: should be allowed by default
[08:25] <KillerD34tH> hello
[08:25] <reisio> hi
[08:25] <KillerD34tH> wuzup?
[08:25] <cspeak> Hello
[08:25] <KillerD34tH> hi
[08:29] <iceroot> TDGPU: michael@bestian:~$ grep sftp /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:29] <iceroot> Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[08:33] <iceroot> TDGPU: and yes, sftp is enabled by default, when a user is allowed to use ssh, he can also use sftp
[08:43] <pabix> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 x64 on an Hp Pavilion TS 15 Notebook PC. The installer runs fine, but the LiveCD or the OS after installation have a X11 startup problem (low graphics mode). Is this a known problem? How can I troubleshoot it please?
[08:45] <TDGPU> pabix: did you do the 5 steps ofter installation? it looks like missing your VC driver.
[08:48] <menchari> hello
[08:48] <menchari> how to know my current nvidia driver?
[08:49] <pabix> Does anyone know what 5 steps TDGPU was talking about?
[08:50] <nopcall> menchari: dpkg -l|grep -i nvidia
[08:54] <eni> since yestarday when playing grooveshark/youtube videos my audio kinda glitches.. how can i see why?
[08:55] <sandman13> what does icon pack means? does it contain icons for close, maximize, minimize?
[08:57] <bekks> sandman13: that depends on the context.
[08:58] <bazhang> sandman13, you'd want gnome-tweak-tool , or unity-tweak-tool for that
[08:59] <sandman13> bazhang: actually i'm using xfce4
[08:59] <bazhang> sandman13, then ask a clearer question, as it's not apparent what you seek
[09:01] <sandman13> there's icon theme section in xfce-look.org but i'm confused whether that would install icons for close, minimize buttons
[09:03] <bekks> sandman13: you have to take a look at the specific package then. We dont know what those authors do and dont.
[09:04] <sandman13> okay bekks
[09:16] <xsi> how to upgrade php5.3 to php5.5?
[09:16] <bekks> xsi: Depends on your Ubuntu release.
[09:17] <xsi> 3.2.0-24-generic-pae
[09:17] <bekks> xsi: Thats a kernel version, not an Ubuntu release.
[09:18] <bekks> xsi: pastebin "lsb_release -a" please.
[09:20] <Ben64> hasn't been 3.2 for a while
[09:20] <xsi> precise
[09:20] <bekks> xsi: Thats not the ouput of "lsb_release -a".
[09:20] <bekks> *output
[09:21] <xsi> LSB Version:	core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch
[09:21] <xsi> Distributor ID:	Zorin
[09:21] <bekks> xsi: Use a pastebin.
[09:21] <bekks> !pastebin | xsi
[09:21] <Ben64> zorin isn't even supported here
[09:21] <bekks> And being on Zorin OS - you are out of support in here. Please seek support for your distribution, since you dont have Ubuntu.
[09:25] <hosam> Hello ubuntu's
[09:27] <reisio> 'lo
[09:27] <hosam> i need help with php5 bundled
[09:27] <hosam> who can help with this
[09:27] <hosam> using ubuntu 12.04.03 php5.3.10
[09:28] <pirret> i am stuck, munin on ubuntu 13.10 giving me an error "You don't have permission to access /munin on this server."
[09:29] <pirret> i have googled stuff, made Allow from all changes to /etc/munin/apache.conf
[09:29] <pirret> but still getting same error
[09:29] <Ben64> what is munin and how did you install it
[09:29] <pirret> if you don't know what it is, beter that you don't even try to help
[09:29] <pirret> +t
[09:30] <Ben64> wow, fine then
[09:30] <hosam> Ben
[09:30] <hosam> can you help with servers
[09:30] <pirret> because it seem to have all kind of issues on ubuntu
[09:30] <hosam> such as php apache
[09:30] <Ben64> hosam: you'd have to give details on your problem first
[09:30] <pirret> and i installed it following steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/munin.html
[09:31] <pirret> which don't metion anything about this no permussion stuff, but google is full of it, but none of those are good for me
[09:31] <hosam> sure
[09:31] <hosam> i have problem with php5-gd bundled
[09:31] <hosam> that the ubuntu php5 packeg
[09:31] <Kroach> which version of Ubuntu had GCC 4.3.3?
[09:32] <pirret> apache error.log has lines like [client 192.168.100.5:33686] AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /var/cache/munin/www
[09:32] <iceroot> Kroach: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <Kroach> iceroot: thanks
[09:38] <qwebirc716433> hello
[09:38] <qwebirc716433> can anyone help me?
[09:39] <arpd> Does anyone know how I can disable the "alt-rightclick" binding in Ubuntu 13.10? It's driving me nuts.
[09:40] <reisio> qwebirc716433: nope
[09:40] <hosam> Hello guys
[09:40] <reisio> 'lo
[09:50] <MajSlayer> hey guys new to linux, how to i open a port with for full access?
[09:50] <MajSlayer> using unbuntu 13.10
[09:50] <Ben64> just run something on the port, by default there isn't a firewall that is stopping things
[09:51] <MajSlayer> ahh well this is a dedicated server install, think they block some stuff by default
[09:51] <MajSlayer> how would i check?
[09:51] <MajSlayer> iptables ?
[09:52] <MajSlayer> at least that's what they told me..lol
[10:00] <wildc4rd> how can I delete a folder created in/by root?
[10:00] <ikonia> wildc4rd: how did you create it as root
[10:00] <wildc4rd> it was an installation in terminal using sudo
[10:00] <ikonia> wildc4rd: using sudo to remove it then would be the solution
[10:01] <ikonia> wildc4rd: be aware of the damage it may do though
[10:05] <kkkkkkk> hi all, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and there is a problem irritating me a lot, many times my laptop cd drive ejects automatically and when i re insert , it ejects again, and it happens 2-3 times, and then it stay closed. It happens at random time, but after few minutes of logging in.
[10:05] <kkkkkkk> how to solve that??
[10:05] <kkkkkkk> i reinstalled but same problem
[10:06] <kkkkkkk> firstly i supposed, button may be pressed accidently, but this is a problem
[10:06] <cfhowlett> kkkkkkk,  sounds like a hardware issue.  short circuit of the eject key would do just as you describe
[10:06] <ikonia> kkkkkkk: I used to see this with certain CD brands years ago when it couldn't always read them
[10:06] <ikonia> it used to take 3 - 4 goes and then it would read them, I can't remember the brand.
[10:08] <wildc4rd> ikonia, ran gksu nautilus, I still find the gui easier than command line, lol
[10:08] <wildc4rd> thanks though
[10:08] <pecc> how in tarnation do I format an USB that is a live CD... tried disk utilities, says "Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[10:09] <kkkkkkk> No, Drive is all right, i have windows also, it never happened there
[10:09] <ikonia> pecc: are you using the USB while trying to format it ?
[10:09] <wheatthin> lol
[10:09] <kkkkkkk> ikonia: problem is not with reading a DVD, tray is empty and it is ejecting automatically, at random intervals
[10:09] <kkkkkkk> cfhowlett: i can confirm that hardware is all right because then same problem will also appear on windows, but it never happend on windows a single time
[10:09] <kkkkkkk> i usually switch between windows and linux according to work and sometimes to change the look and feel, that's why i have  dual boot system
[10:09] <kkkkkkk> anybody used KINGSOFT office here?? on linux
[10:10] <aleandro> ciao a tutti
[10:10] <pecc> ikonia: nope, nothing should be using it right now
[10:10] <aleandro> c'è qualcuno italiano?
[10:10] <PorTa> hola.
[10:10] <ikonia> kkkkkkk: seeing as it's a windows product and not for linux, I suspect not
[10:11] <ikonia> pecc: how are you trying to format it ?
[10:11] <PorTa> habla alguein español?
[10:11] <ikonia> !es | PorTa
[10:11] <LjL> spricht jemand deutsch?
[10:12] <pecc> ikonia: via Disk Utility, Format Disk > Don't overwrite, compatible with all systems (MBR/DOS)
[10:12] <kkkkkkk> no, it is also available for linux also, WPS community something, is it a good replacement of microsoft office, i mean  i read somewhere on internet and saw some screenshots that it provides better compatibility with micro's documents
[10:12] <ikonia> kkkkkkk: their site only shows windows
[10:12] <bekks> !de | LjL
[10:12] <kkkkkkk> let me give you the link
[10:12] <PorTa> no entender..
[10:12] <ikonia> kkkkkkk: I don't want the link
[10:12] <LjL> PorTa: el canal para español es #ubuntu-es
[10:12] <LjL> PorTa: da /join #ubuntu-es   por entrar
[10:13] <PorTa> »pero, quiero aprender ingles..
[10:13] <PorTa> u.u
[10:13] <kkkkkkk> http://wps-community.org/
[10:13] <ikonia> kkkkkkk: "I don't want the link"
[10:13] <PorTa> xD
[10:13] <kkkkkkk> this is the link, o sorry, u dont' want the link
[10:13] <kkkkkkk> i didn't read it,
[10:13] <kkkkkkk> sorry :(
[10:13] <wheatthin> of course :P
[10:14] <LjL> PorTa: ##english es un buen canal por aprender inglés. pero #ubuntu solamente es para soporte de Ubuntu
[10:15] <bekks> 21!es | PorTa
[10:15] <bekks> !es | PorTa
[10:15] <PorTa> »LjL, ahhh y qe es ubuntu?
[10:15] <PorTa> algun juego?
[10:15] <kkkkkkk> has anyone used it http://wps-community.org/ , i am looking for a review, before downloading 150 MB, because i have slow internet connection
[10:15] <bekks> kkkkkkk: What if someone used it?
[10:16] <kkkkkkk> bekks: pro and cons
[10:16] <LjL> PorTa, no pero por favor, no sigues hablando español aqui... #ubuntu-es o ##english
[10:16] <kkkkkkk> look and feel
[10:16] <bekks> kkkkkkk: Thats not related to Ubuntu, isnt it?
[10:16] <kkkkkkk> better than libre office or not?
[10:16] <bekks> !best| kkkkkkk
[10:17] <kkkkkkk> bekks: that's it
[10:17] <pecc> ikonia: was using "that gears icon on top right", found out the partition specific one now and it gives another error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6462929/
[10:18] <phone_lhanjian> ubuntu crash again.
[10:19] <kkkkkkk> bekks: My Laptop DVD Drive, ejects automatically, without any soft or hard command from my side, why this is happening in ubuntu, and not in windows, i mean if this is hardware problem then it will behave same in windows also
[10:20] <kkkkkkk> bekks: how to solve such kind of issue?
[10:20] <bekks> kkkkkkk: I never experienced such issues.
[10:21] <kkkkkkk> bekks: that's good
[10:21] <kkkkkkk> but i am experiencing the same , at random times after logging in
[10:21] <nashant> Hey, I've got a problem trying to install percona. It keeps saying Depends libc6 (>=2.17) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.5 is to be installed. How can I fix this?
[10:22] <mrbean33s> hello guys
[10:23] <bekks> nashant: Please pastebin the entire output.
[10:23] <DFZ> Das ist ein englischer Kanal. Es gibt aber auch einen deutschen Kanal: "/join #ubuntu-de"
[10:24] <nashant> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6462949/
[10:25] <picca> downloading latest version of Ubuntu .. can't wait to try it
[10:25] <bekks> nashant: And please pastebin "lsb_release -a"
[10:25] <soman> I need a soft to monitor some webpages for modification/updates. Is there any?
[10:25] <goxl> hello
[10:25] <picca> hi goxl
[10:25] <nashant> I didn't reboot after a dist-upgrade
[10:25] <bekks> soman: chrome, firefox, etc - generally every browser.
[10:26] <soman> bekks: ok, but I need it automatically
[10:26] <bekks> soman: Then you would have to mirror the entire site. I doubt you actually want to do that.
[10:29] <nashant> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6462973/
[10:29] <nashant> bekks: I did a dist-upgrade, but it's still reporting precise...?
[10:30] <bekks> nashant: Of course. If you want to update to 12.10, then to 13.04, then to 13.10,... you have to use do-release-upgrade
[10:30] <nashant> ah right
[10:30] <nashant> No, I don't wanna do that
[10:30] <nashant> Stick with the LTS
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> nashant  try do-release-upgrade
[10:30] <bekks> nashant: Then you cant use percona.
[10:30] <nashant> what? really? How come?
[10:31] <bekks> nashant: percona requires a newer libc than the one in 12.04
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> what's percona?
[10:32] <nashant> MonkeyDust: drop in replacement for mysql
[10:32] <nashant> I suppose it's only a few months for the next LTS release
[10:33] <bekks> nashant: Whats wrong with mysql? :)
[10:33] <nashant> after some reading, percona looks better
[10:34] <bekks> nashant: Because...?
[10:34] <nashant> For my purposes though, it probably makes no difference whatsoever
[10:34] <bekks> nashant: Besides the fact that it seems they do use an older codebase than mysql?
[10:35] <nashant> In performance testing it seems to come out over mysql
[10:35] <ikonia> nashant: independant performance testing or on the vendors website
[10:36] <soman> bekks: I need something like that http://www.cmcode.co.uk/webmon/
[10:36] <nashant> independent as far as I can see. Or that's what people are reporting
[10:36] <ikonia> nashant: "people" ?
[10:36] <gordonjcp> nashant: why not just use mysql?
[10:36] <goxl> Some people use SDL2 it?
[10:37] <nashant> gordonjcp: That's what I'm gonna do for the moment
[10:37] <nashant> ikonia: yeah....you know....people...
[10:37] <nashant> "Them"
[10:37] <ikonia> nashant: no, I don't, I've never heard of the software, nor heard of performance results from it so "what people"
[10:37] <gordonjcp> nashant: ever heard of "premature optimisation"?
[10:38] <WinstonSmith> is the root of all evil!
[10:38] <nashant> gordonjcp: I think one of my friends went to a therapist for that
[10:38] <marcin_> mj
[10:38] <marcin_> kkk
[10:39] <gordonjcp> nashant: quick car analogy - I have a 1988 Citroën CX, and my mate has a 1988 Porsche 924
[10:39] <arpd> Does anyone know how I can disable the "alt-rightclick" binding in Ubuntu 13.10? It's driving me nuts.
[10:39] <gordonjcp> nashant: now, my mate's 924 *in theory* with all its tweaking and tuning of its all-alloy 2.2 litre engine making 150bhp ought to outperform the 2.2 litre all-alloy engine in the CX that makes 115bhp
[10:40] <gordonjcp> *however*
[10:40] <nashant> ikonia: Well after reading the three options seem to be mysql, mariadb or percona. mariadb has lots of myisam optimizations, percona has xtradb (a replacement for innodb)
[10:40] <gordonjcp> the Porsche is considerably more highly-"optimised" than the Citroën and that comes with reliability penalties
[10:40] <MajSlayer> http://pastebin.com/7gQGASwp Trying to install Red5-Server on ubuntu 13.10 get this error, any ideas how to fix it?
[10:41] <ikonia> MajSlayer: looking at that output I'd "guess" it's not designed for ubuntu 13.10 and is installing from either a local deb/3rd party repo and the init system is not compatible
[10:42] <ikonia> MajSlayer: note that is a guess from the limited output
[10:43] <pirret> gordonjcp: there is no car more unreliable than Citroën ;D
[10:43] <pirret> french cars in general are shit
[10:43] <pirret> back to topic ->
[10:43] <ikonia> pirret: no need for that language please
[10:43] <pirret> shit fuck ass
[10:43] <pirret> oops
[10:45] <MajSlayer> ikonia could i downgrade to 13.04 somehow? maybe that would help?
[10:45] <ikonia> MajSlayer: I don't think so, where is this package being installed from ?
[10:46] <MajSlayer> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <ikonia> MajSlayer: really ? it's in the repo,
[10:46] <ikonia> !info red5-server
[10:46] <ikonia> MajSlayer: well, I'm wrong it is in the repo
[10:46] <Boneheads1999> I need help.  I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (with Unity Shell).  I want to move the launcher from the left to the bottom (vertical).  And then I want to make it similar to OSX (Macintosh/Apple), and make it so when the cursor rolls over an Icon, that icon gets bigger in size, along with icons near it.
[10:46] <goxl> 有人会用SDL吗
[10:47] <ikonia> MajSlayer: I thought you'd have setup an external repo based on /usr/local/installers/red5 in your path in the pastebin output
[10:47] <ikonia> MajSlayer: ok, lets just clarify, what's in /usr/local/installersred5 ?
[10:47] <RickyB98> goxl, 你好！：）
[10:47] <MajSlayer> ahh red5rc1
[10:47] <MajSlayer> just a tar... i just used apt-get install red5-server
[10:48] <ikonia> MajSlayer: ok, so there is nothing in there/been run from there that could have changed your install path, good
[10:48] <ikonia> MajSlayer: run apt-cache policy red5-server
[10:48] <Boneheads1999> Basically, I want to turn my Unity Launcher into an OSX-like Dock.
[10:48] <MajSlayer> k one sec
[10:50] <MajSlayer> http://pastebin.com/5Sjj4R0L
[10:50] <MajSlayer> there ya go ikonia
[10:51] <ikonia> MajSlayer: that's interesting, it looks like it's installed it just couldn't start it
[10:51] <MajSlayer> aye
[10:51] <ikonia> MajSlayer: I thought it failed to install because it couldn't start it (reading your output)
[10:51] <MajSlayer> no seemed to install just fine
[10:51] <MajSlayer> its the starting thats the problem
[10:51] <ikonia> MajSlayer: what happens if you try to start it manually
[10:52] <ikonia> MajSlayer: is it just the init script thats broken, or is it actually failing to start
[10:52] <MajSlayer> how would i go about that?
[10:52] <MajSlayer> new to linux pretty much, used it 10 years ago
[10:52] <ikonia> MajSlayer: I don't know what the application is so I don't know how to start it manually, you'd have to check that
[10:52] <goxl> 有人会用SDL吗
[10:52] <bekks> !cn | goxl
[10:53] <MajSlayer> that i can google one sec.
[10:53] <goxl> tnk
[10:54] <MajSlayer> ahh samething failed
[10:54] <ikonia> MajSlayer: same thing ?
[10:54] <cer> hi everybody! Do you know of a microblogging client that allows you to post at the same time on different social network websites? In particular, I need google+ and twitter.
[10:54] <ikonia> MajSlayer: how did you try to start it ?
[10:54] <MajSlayer> did a service red5-server start
[10:54] <ikonia> MajSlayer: that's using the init script
[10:54] <ikonia> MajSlayer: so that's not proving anything
[10:55] <MajSlayer> oh
[10:58] <MajSlayer> how would i locate where it was installed?
[10:58] <ikonia> MajSlayer: search for the binary, however I suspect it will be /usr/bin
[11:02] <MajSlayer> well looked in /usr/bin nothing in there that even starts with the letter r
[11:03] <MajSlayer> argh shame there isn't more info about Red5 on the internet
[11:04] <MajSlayer> ahh this it goes to /usr/share
[11:04] <MajSlayer> i'll check there
[11:06] <PinkSwing> Good morning. Does anyone know a broadband connectivity monitor for Ubuntu? I have intermittent internet connectivity problems and I want to log it for a few hours to see when and for how long the connection goes down.
[11:06] <PinkSwing> Or would I just set ping running with the output piped into a file?
[11:23] <alazyworkaholic> switching users in 13.10 frequently lands me at an unresponsive black screen with a flashing cursor. I can restart by ¨service lightdm restart¨ but I lose my work and it´s a real inconvenience. Does anyone know what log file might help diagnose the problem, or if there´s anything else I can do?
[11:24] <eni> hello, has anyone encountered pulseaudio problems (glitches)?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !anyone
[11:26] <eni> I'm having glitches when playing audio (flash/mplayer). After having a look at the pulseaudio logs : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6462693/ i see something like alsa-sink] alsa-sink.c: Underrun!
[11:26] <eni> I can't seem to find a fix about this
[11:30] <eni> cfhowlett, any idea?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> eni, I've not seen/heard of the type of error your getting..  Ask again in channel.  Lots of smart people here.
[11:34] <eni> ok, thanks
[11:37] <SASDOE> hi all
[11:37] <krayze> what is this ???
[11:39] <SASDOE> quick question, what solution would you recommend to regularly backup code automatically to a remote server?
[11:39] <SASDOE> with versionning
[11:39] <Cor> Ìû
[11:40] <snql> it is greeting
[11:40] <A1Recon> Where is the installation directory for any program in Ubuntu?
[11:40] <Wikiadmin> tar+cron+rsync?
[11:41] <SASDOE> depends usually something with /bin in it
[11:41] <SASDOE> how do i do versionning with rsync ?
[11:41] <SASDOE> without clobbering and keeping only differences
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !incremental
[11:44] <SASDOE> cfhowlett is that for me?
[11:45] <snql> A1Recon: local/share
[11:45] <snql> home folder is installation directory
[11:46] <SASDOE> depends on how he installed it really
[11:48] <SASDOE> i have installed apps in /usr/bin /usr/sbin /sbin /bin and $HOME/bin
[11:49] <hitsujiTMO> don't forget /opt                   non repo stuff usually go there
[11:49] <A1Recon> how do i install a program from the tgz file?
[11:49] <SASDOE> ture
[11:49] <SASDOE> true
[11:50] <SASDOE> extract it the read the README
[11:50] <bekks> A1Recon: Which program?
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> A1Recon: read the provided readme file or instructions where you got it from
[11:50] <TechKno> Is there a way to install Ubuntu onto an external hard drive wihtout a live USB/CD?
[11:51] <A1Recon> bekks: Arduino IDE
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> !debootstrap | TechKno
[11:51] <SASDOE> he would still need a live media of some sort
[11:51] <TechKno> Okay thank you
[11:52] <SASDOE> or at least to my knowledge
[11:52] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: not if hes doing it from an existing environment
[11:52] <TechKno> Some reason my pc will no longer boot from USB so I'm having to do it that way
[11:53] <hitsujiTMO> TechKno: the only other thing you can do is dd an installed image
[11:53] <rigo88> what should i type in the command line if i want to install a "minimal system" of ubuntu 12.04 server? normally i should press F4 and choose install minimal system. but i created the usb installer with "unetbootin"
[11:53] <Razkin> rigo88, please run rm -rf /
[11:53] <SASDOE> dont!
[11:53] <LjL> !danger | rigo88
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !danager
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !danger
[11:54] <LjL> Razkin: do you think you're funny? because you aren't
[11:54] <Razkin> LjL, I am very funny.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Razkin, not sure if you're stupid or think you're funny.  Either way, stop it.
[11:54] <Razkin> ok sorry guys
[11:54] <Razkin> I was just tryna make a joke, jeez.
[11:54] <Razkin> very serious people in here
[11:55] <LjL> Razkin: hardly funny when people lose their data
[11:55] <A1Recon> Razkin: Joke? Losing data is joke for you?
[11:55] <SASDOE> rigo88: what do you mean by minimal?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> Razkin, telling an inexperienced user to nuke their system isn't funny.  nor will it be tolerated.  see the code of conduct.
[11:55] <A1Recon> cfhowlett: +1
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> rigo88: unetbootin should create the image with that option available. if not try an alternative usb creator such as ubuntus startup disk creator
[11:57] <SASDOE> so does anyone know how to do versionning in rsync?
[11:57] <arma_> hello guys
[11:57] <rigo88_> sorry. pc was frozn
[11:57] <bekks> SASDOE: There is no versioning in rsync.
[11:57] <hkan> hello guys, anyone know why does indicator-cpufreq is in the messages panel in gnome 3.8 ?
[11:57] <Ben64> SASDOE: could you explain what you mean by that
[11:57] <bekks> SASDOE: You have to use something like rdiff-backup
[11:58] <arma_> i have a problem,anyone that can help?
[11:58] <CrimsonIdol> Why are there no good photo organizers?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, never used it, nor am I 100% on versioning.  I believe rsync will do incremental backups ... don't know how to set that up thought.
[11:58] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: erm, rysync to a directory created with the name of the version
[11:58] <rigo88_> so what is the command line command for minimal system?
[11:58] <Razkin> bekks: after running the 'rm -rf /' command, data is recoverable, yes? because, I thought, if deleting data was that fast and easy, why is formatting so slow?
[11:58] <bekks> CrimsonIdol: there are, digikam e.g.
[11:58] <cfhowlett> CrimsonIdol, shotwell
[11:58] <bekks> Razkin: When having a backup, data is recoverable.
[11:58] <SASDOE> Ben64: i would like to regularly backup source code to my personnal server, keeping up to say 10 versions of the same file, but keeping only differences
[11:59] <Ben64> Razkin: stop posting that stuff. it's not helpful, its not easily recoverable
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: is this daily backups?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> Ben64, he's already been warned.
[11:59] <cer> hi everybody! Do you know of a microblogging client that allows you to post at the same time on different social network websites? In particular, I need google+ and twitter..
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> SASDOE  is this useful http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[11:59] <Ben64> cfhowlett: yeah but he posted the command again...
[11:59] <MajSlayer> Invocation of init method failed; nested exception is java.net.BindException: Address already in use <-- any idea on how to fix?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !ops|Razkin,   rm -rf /
[11:59] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMC: actually around evry other 30 minutes
[12:00] <rigo88_> please?
[12:00] <Ben64> SASDOE: i'm sure its possible, but its not built into it, you'd need some kind of custom script to do it
[12:00] <cfhowlett> bazhang, tyvm
[12:00] <Ben64> SASDOE: i think you'd be better off with something designed for that task
[12:00] <arma_> i cant switch between my gpu and the intel graphics
[12:00] <SASDOE> and would git not be a better solution then? or owncloud?
[12:00] <hkan> I installed indicator-cpufreq but it is shown in the messages panel, not in the gnome shell at upper screen, why?
[12:00] <Ben64> yeah i'd use git
[12:01] <TechKno> I have ubuntu installed on VMware player, is there a command that'll install it onto an external hard drive?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> SASDOE  the people in #bash can help you better with custom script
[12:01] <bekks> TechKno: No. Use a liveCD/USB to install it outside a vm.
[12:01] <SASDOE> ok i think i'll try git
[12:01] <arma_> i cant switch between my gpu and the intel graphics
[12:01] <arma_> anyone?to know about nvidia optimus?
[12:01] <bekks> !optimus | arma_
[12:02] <SASDOE> MonkeyDust: actually i think i read someplace that one could both boot or virtualize an os on their hard drive
[12:02] <bekks> hmm.
[12:02] <SASDOE> i'd google it
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|arma_,
[12:02] <Ben64> arma_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[12:02] <TechKno> bekks: Some reason after trying to do that before, my bios won't detect a live usb
[12:02] <bekks> TechKno: Then use a livecd.
[12:02] <TechKno> bekks: Okay I'll try it now.
[12:03] <arma_> i have done that,but nothing.still have a problem
[12:03] <arma_> when im scrolling down in sites or i watch a movie
[12:03] <arma_> something like a line apeears in my screen
[12:03] <A1Recon> Wow that ops intervention was epic on so many levels....
[12:04] <Ben64> arma_: i wish i could help you more, but i don't have any optimus systems
[12:04] <arma_> :(
[12:05] <Ben64> i think the newer versions of xorg and xrandr and nvidia drivers have more native support for optimus
[12:05] <arma_> i install drivers bumblebee but nthng
[12:05] <Ben64> maybe it's in 13.10 or 14.04
[12:05] <arma_> you say to use for 13.04 versions?
[12:05] <Ben64> you have to activate it per app by using 'optirun'
[12:05] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: simplest solution to to ryscny to a versioned folder named as: BACKUP_DIR="backup-$(date +%Y-%m-%d--%H-%M)"; mkdir "$BACKUP_DIR";
[12:06] <arma_> yes,but when i do that,i have a error
[12:06] <Ben64> what's the error
[12:06] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: then rsync to $BACKUP_DIR
[12:06] <arma_> bublebee is not running
[12:06] <arma_> something like this
[12:06] <arma_> now i dont have nvidia drivers installed
[12:07] <CrimsonIdol> bekks, cfhowlett gThumb, F-Spot, Shotwell are all horrible. Haven't looked at digiKam. This is for a friend and I really don't feel like installing KDE just for a photo organizer. Picasa is obviously out of the question... removes too many dependancies.
[12:07] <bekks> CrimsonIdol: You dont need to install KDE, you need to install digikam.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> CrimsonIdol, wait 1
[12:07] <arma_> when i type sudo lshw -C video
[12:08] <arma_> i have
[12:08] <arma_> *-display UNCLAIMED
[12:08] <Ben64> you don't need to install kde to use the libraries
[12:08] <arma_>        description: 3D controller
[12:08] <arma_>        product: GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M]
[12:08] <arma_>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[12:08] <arma_>        physical id: 0
[12:08] <Ben64> !pastebin | arma_
[12:09] <arma_> display ubclaimed?
[12:09] <cfhowlett> CrimsonIdol,   www.reddit.com/r/FOSSPhotography    http://www.rileybrandt.com/2012/07/31/linux-photo-1/
[12:11] <arma_> thank you btw
[12:11] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: but then i would have up to 10 copies of the same file
[12:11] <SASDOE> of different versions
[12:12] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: whereas i would like to only save one full snapshot and plenty diffenrences snapshots
[12:12] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: maybe use git then?
[12:12] <SASDOE> i was told tar could work on the git chan
[12:13] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: problem with git is that it is project oriented, and i would like to backup an entire directory, full of different projects
[12:15] <danux> i get this error when trying to "make" /usr/bin/ld: ../pdf/libmaitreya_pdf.a(pdffontmanager.o): undefined reference to symbol 'FcPatternAddInteger'
[12:15] <danux> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[12:15] <danux> how to fix this .  please help
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: normally i'd use git bungle for backing up git repos. i have all my repos in a single directory and the backup script runs through the directory list and bundles each repo to a nfs share
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> s/bungle/bundle
[12:20] <tigerL> 怎么没人
[12:20] <huyinghuan> Hello .  I got a VPS and default install ubuntu 10.10  . but I found the source.list  can't be used(when I apt-get install vim or other software,some errors is 404)  ,where can i get useable source list ?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !cn|tigerL,
[12:21] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | huyinghuan 10.10 is eol
[12:22] <SASDOE> i must say this ubottu impresses me
[12:22] <cfhowlett> huyinghuan, best thing to do is stop and upgrade to a supported version: I suggest 12.04 Long Term Support.  Then update to 14.04 LTS in April
[12:22] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, it is rather intuitive, isn't it.
[12:22] <huyinghuan> the VPS can't update :'(
[12:22] <SASDOE> huyinghuan: are you paying for this?? if so, stop!
[12:22] <cfhowlett> ^^^
[12:23] <huyinghuan> yes . I buy it today.
[12:23] <cfhowlett> why?  WHY?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> get your money back
[12:23] <SASDOE> immediatly
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> huyinghuan: reinstall with a supported ubuntu template
[12:24] <hitsujiTMO> huyinghuan: what company is this that are supplying templates of outdated operating systems?
[12:24]  * cfhowlett bets on china ...
[12:24] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Almost every VPS hosting company does.
[12:24] <nispro> hello, have question non releated to linux. anyonne know the minimum lenght of a tp cabel from switch to pc? diffrent answers all the time from google :/
[12:25] <huyinghuan> It's my first  experience  to buy VPS:'(
[12:25] <cfhowlett> huyinghuan, can you return and get your money back?
[12:25] <bekks> nispro: Minimum cable length for TP cables are ~15cm
[12:25] <SASDOE> huyinghuan: next time choose a vps with an up to date OS
[12:25] <nispro> bekks: thank you =)
[12:25] <danux> i get this error when trying to "make" /usr/bin/ld: ../pdf/libmaitreya_pdf.a(pdffontmanager.o): undefined reference to symbol 'FcPatternAddInteger'
[12:26] <danux>  /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
[12:26] <danux> how to fix this  .  please help
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> huyinghuan: your hosting panel should have reinstallation templates so you can reinstall another oOS. just install a supported version of ubuntu ( recommend 12.04 for server )
[12:26] <SASDOE> huyinghuan: which is very easy to spot in ubuntu as the first to digits are year and last two month of release
[12:26] <huyinghuan> yes .
[12:27] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: why would a vps default to 10.04?
[12:27] <bekks> SASDOE: because 10.04 is still supported.
[12:27] <hitsujiTMO> SASDOE: i'm presuming it wasn't defaulted and was just the first on the list of templates
[12:27] <MajSlayer> ahh thank god, i got red5 working.lol
[12:27] <SASDOE> good thinking
[12:27] <MajSlayer> freaking had to close putty, even after i killed java
[12:28] <danux> can anyone see what i post here ?
[12:28] <ikonia> danux: yes
[12:28] <MajSlayer> nope cant see a thing
[12:28] <cfhowlett> danux, yes we see you
[12:29] <hitsujiTMO> danux: you prob haven't installed the build dependencies
[12:30] <danux> hitsujiTMO,  i think i have  :(
[12:30] <hitsujiTMO> danux: what app are you trying to build?
[12:30] <SASDOE> danux: how did you install? with apt-get?
[12:30] <SASDOE> danux: sorry didn't read full question
[12:31] <auronandace> !checkinstall | danux
[12:31] <danux> http://saravali.de   there is an app calld Maitreya   i have compiled it many times in previos ubuntu versions
[12:31] <SASDOE> wow that's really cool never heard of it before
[12:32] <SASDOE> checkinstall i mean
[12:32] <danux> its an astrology app
[12:32] <danux> :D
[12:32] <hitsujiTMO> danux: if libfontconfig.so is installed as a version such as: libfontconfig.so.1.23     you may need to symlink the file: ln -s libfontconfig.so.1.23 libfontconfig.so
[12:32] <danux> hitsujiTMO,    ahaa i will try it and inform u immediately
[12:34] <mika__> Usually i have got windows working with linux, but today i installed linux and this computer cant see windows 7 anymore. i have only one efi boot partition and its linux disk. i have two hdd, linux is on ssd.
[12:35] <danux> hitsujiTMO,   apt package name is libfontconfig1  --  so i think that is what causing this bug :D
[12:35] <auronandace> !uefi | mika__
[12:35] <mika__> linux is ubuntu 12.04 LTS version
[12:36] <mika__> auronandace: i have asus bios so there isnt any CSM switch or so.
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: with uefi you only have one efi system partition no matter how many Operating systems you have. did you by any chance format the efi partition during the install?  is windows not showing up in the efi boot manager?
[12:37] <pranav> i uploaded a video on youtube that was created using the command:  mencoder mf://./*.png -mf w=320:h=240:fps=3:type=png -ovc copy -oac copy -o output.avi
[12:37] <SASDOE> should'nt he be installing a bios
[12:37] <SASDOE> grub a mean
[12:37] <pranav> but it doesn't work properly
[12:38] <SASDOE> pranav: sorry don't know
[12:39] <pranav>  i used: $ mencoder mf://./*.png -mf w=320:h=240:fps=3:type=png -ovc copy -oac copy -o output.avi to create a video from set of timelapsed image. but it wont work in youtube. possible guide?
[12:40] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  im using now live-cd and keyboard layout is not comfortable for me xD
[12:40] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: then change it in the system settings :P
[12:40] <MajSlayer> okay guys, seems i got Red5 rc1 running via ./red5  but once i close putty, it stops running, how to i set it so it stays up and running?
[12:40] <ikonia> MajSlayer: nohup ./red5
[12:40] <ikonia> MajSlayer: nohup ./red5  &
[12:40] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: yeah now it's better :)
[12:41] <MajSlayer> ikonia both commands?
[12:41] <ikonia> MajSlayer: just the latter
[12:41] <MajSlayer> thanks, been a big help ikonia, you da man
[12:41] <MajSlayer> owe ya one
[12:41] <ikonia> not a problem
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: can you open the terminal and install efibootmgr and pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit efibootmgr              then run: sudo efibootmgr | pastebinit                 can you paste the link generated here
[12:43] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: ok, wait a sec.
[12:43] <MajSlayer>  nohup: ignoring input and appending output to ‘nohup.out’
[12:44] <MajSlayer> guess thats good:) now let me try closing putty:)
[12:44] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: it doesn't find pastebinit, only that efibootmgr, but i can use my browser for pastebin...
[12:44] <MajSlayer> yep works cool beans
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> Mike__: cool. please pastebin the output
[12:45] <MajSlayer> i best put this in my install notes
[12:45] <mika__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6463422/
[12:47] <pd0x\explodes> hi, I assume this is a Ubuntu related question.  I'd like to try installing xp on my xp/Ubuntu box via Virtual Box, can I install the virtual xp on a second hard drive, or does it have to be installed on the boot c: drive?
[12:47] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  that "Boot0003*" is my "live-cd" in usb stick
[12:48] <cfhowlett> pd0x\explodes, add the hdd to VB as storage and I believe it'll work fine.  I think.
[12:48] <pd0x\explodes> I have lots of space on my e: (sata hd #2 in the pc), but only a little remaining free on the c: which has xp/ubuntu on it already dual booted
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: hmm no windows entry: can you pastebin: lsblk
[12:49] <ikonia> PaRaD0xx: you create virtual disks from any physical storage you want, so use what you want, also check #vbox for virtual box specific help
[12:49] <PaRaD0xx> ikonia: o, ok...thanks.  I'll ask there..but you're saying I can install it anywhere?
[12:50] <PaRaD0xx> didn't realize there was a vbox channel
[12:50] <ikonia> PaRaD0xx: you can create a virtual disk from any physical media you have
[12:50] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6463440/
[12:50] <PaRaD0xx> cool
[12:50] <PaRaD0xx> awesome
[12:50] <PaRaD0xx> thanks ;)
[12:51] <sveta> Hi
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[12:52] <mika__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6463454/
[12:53] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: your windows is an mbr install not efi. that's your problem
[12:53] <CookieM> sveta hi
[12:54] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  so linux should be also not efi install
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: you should reinstall ubuntu as bios/mbr install so you can cleanly dual boot
[12:54] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  ok i try again :D  thank you
[12:54] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: both OS should be the same type of install
[12:55] <bhavesh> I am trying to lower the brightness of my Acer Aspire E1 laptop beyond minimum, to do so, I want to change the value of brightness file in /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness to around 50-60, currently at minimum it is 75 by doing sudo echo 50 > brightness. But it returns Permission denied even when I use sudo. Help please.
[12:55] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  yup :)
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> bhavesh: echo 50 | sudo tee brightness
[12:56] <SASDOE> bhavesh: had the same problem. never tried to solve but found workaround by using xfce4 panel
[12:56] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: no way it can't be that easy
[12:56] <SASDOE> hitsujiTMO: and how come a sudo command gets denied ??
[12:56] <bhavesh> hitsujiTMO, worked, thanks.
[12:57] <SASDOE> wow
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> sasdoe: sudo doesnt follow the redirection.  after the redirection is running as a normal user
[12:57] <SASDOE> OOOOOOOOh !!
[12:57] <who__> how do i copy a folder from my ubuntu computer to my windows computer with putty via ssh, when iḿ at the prompt
[12:57] <SASDOE> i like this place you guys know so much haha
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> sasdoe: you need to use pipe it to tee and run tee as sudo for >    or for >> use sudo tee -a
[12:58] <SASDOE> scp
[12:58] <SASDOE> who: man scp
[12:58] <sventon> hi again,  I had some questions about permissions and security yesterday and I think I understand how this work now. It is just one thing I don't grasp. If somebody know my administration password does that mean that they can find a way to log in to my machine over a network ?
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> who__: scp of sftp
[12:58] <SASDOE> sventon: well if its connected, sure
[12:59] <gordonjcp> who__: look into using pscp
[12:59] <SASDOE> also needs open ports on whatever way they wish to connect to
[12:59] <gordonjcp> sventon: that's true of any system
[13:00] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: im now installing it again. let's see
[13:00] <gordonjcp> sventon: if you connect your machine to a network, enable some sort of remote connection, and give your password out, then people will be able to connect to it and pretend to be you
[13:00] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: well not if it's not available outside the LAN
[13:00] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: people within the LAN will...
[13:01] <molgrum> hi i want to install cinnamon and i checked a video that says i should install both cinnamon and muffin. on webpages they say just cinnamon package. what gives?
[13:01] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: true enough! but i don't think that was his concern
[13:01] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  what if windows had a efi but it was on ssd and i delete it?
[13:01] <SASDOE> molgrum: i think you can install it simply with apt-get install cinnamon
[13:01] <sventon> SASDOE: but are not all ports closed by default ?  As I understood it I have to open my machine from the "inside" before somebody can access it from a network. Is that correct ?
[13:01] <bhavesh> would lowering the laptop brightness beyond limits damage the hardware?
[13:01] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: i don't know why os what is on hdd would but the efi partition to ssd :D but maybe it can be possible?
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: its not. its an mbr file ssystem ( can see from using fdisk -l)
[13:01] <SASDOE> sventon: yes indeed all ports are (normally) closed per default
[13:03] <SASDOE> sventon: but as gordonjcp pointed out, anyone connected to the same network as the machine will be able to connect and do whatever
[13:03] <molgrum> SASDOE: i see, it depends on muffin-common
[13:04] <SASDOE> sventon: it is good practice to never give out the admin password, never login as root (only isue sudo commands) and only hand out limited access accounts
[13:04] <SASDOE> sventon: i'd recommend running a "passwd" to change it!
[13:04] <SASDOE> molgrum: and apt-get should install depencies all by itself
[13:05] <molgrum> thanks, now i'm going to try out cinnamon :)
[13:05] <SASDOE> molgrum: i'm sure you'll like it
[13:08] <sventon> SASDOE:  yes I don¨t run as administrator because I am told not to do that.  Now I try to understand the technical reasons for this.  What's the definition of a network ? I have a internet connection using a wireless modem. Is it possible for an intruder to access my machine that way ?
[13:09] <SASDOE> a network is simply a web (as in cob web) of interconnected computers
[13:10] <SASDOE> there are plenty of networks, but you are probably mainly familiar with two: your LAN, wich interconnects all your computers with no port restrictions, so they can all communicate freely
[13:11] <SASDOE> sventon: and the internet, wich is sort of a big home LAN, for the world
[13:11] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  so i deleted the whole ssd and windows doesnt start
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: what is the error? was windows installed while the ssd was in place?
[13:12] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: i think the ssd had uefi partition what was for windows (hdd)
[13:12] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  yes it was
[13:13] <SASDOE> sventon: if your modem, wich is the door between your LAN and the internet, is filtering ports, as it by default should, only very motivated hackers could access your data
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: did windows show up in grub?
[13:14] <SASDOE> sventon: the more likely way one would take control of your computer would be via an in infected web page (since port 80 is open by default on all routers), and for that i can only advise to stay away from dodgy websites, and leave the windows closed!
[13:14] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  nope
[13:14] <molgrum> was not impressed by cinnamon, it was really laggy at first and then it froze up. i tried 2D also and the same problem occured :(
[13:15] <SASDOE> molgrum: what are your hardware specs?
[13:15] <molgrum> let me see
[13:15] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: i didn't even see whole grub..it starts automaticly the ubuntu....
[13:15] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: but not anymore of course because i format the ssd
[13:15] <SASDOE> did you install grub ? if so, to what hard drive?
[13:16] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: is there to make new efi thingy for windows and transfer it to hdd side...or to i have to install whole windows again :(
[13:16] <SASDOE> mika__: also, did you install it to a partition or to a hard drive?
[13:16] <molgrum> SASDOE: [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
[13:16] <SASDOE> molgrum: ram and cpu ?
[13:16] <molgrum> using fglrx-updates
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: windows prob installed the bootstrap to the ssd. have you reinstalled ubuntu yet?
[13:16] <molgrum> 4 GB RAM
[13:16] <molgrum> CPU is intel dual core
[13:17] <SASDOE> molgrum: because on my macbook 2010 8 go ram intel dual core it runs really smoothly
[13:17] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  yeah i did, but same thing...so i format it now
[13:17] <molgrum> unity and gnome shell runs smoothly though
[13:17] <molgrum> i don't understand why cinnamon doesn't
[13:18] <SASDOE> molgrum: i don't either, it should..!
[13:18] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: dont format. use boot-repair. that should pick up the windows install and add an entry to grub
[13:19] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  weird stuff, i have installed this dual boot like 3 times to this computer and only now i got a problem xD.
[13:19] <sventon> SASDOE: thanks a lot for your explanation, I  think I understand now.  Normally even If I connect using for example my USB modem the hacker can't just test my account password if I haven't changed my settings to allow login. Correct ?
[13:19] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: 3 times succesfully
[13:20] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  im pretty sure now that windows efi was on ssd side :/
[13:21] <SASDOE> sventon: it depends. if you connect to a public network, like starbucks for example, anyone connected can run any number of tests on all connected computers. including a brute force on your password.
[13:21] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: and it has been now overwriten by linux efi and now the ssd is empty xD
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: windows is on an mbr partition table not gpt. so its an mbr install not uefi.
[13:21] <SASDOE> sventon: but from your home network you should be fairly safe
[13:21] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  why then windows wount start if ssd is empty?
[13:22] <mika__> ok i will write the error down and i come back here
[13:22] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> because its dependent on how you're trying to boot it. are you still on efi boot or have you switched to bios boot?
[13:22] <SASDOE> mika__: i had that problem once, windows was told to mount that drive on boot, could find it, and failed to boot
[13:22] <SASDOE> couldn't
[13:23] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: also, depends on drive boot order set in bios boot
[13:23] <SASDOE> mika__: make sure the windows drive is top on list
[13:24] <sventon> SASDOE:  I understand,  Thanks a lot for your help !
[13:24] <SASDOE> molgrum: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=208&t=150126 here they speak of nvidia driver issues
[13:24] <SASDOE> sventon: no problem, any time
[13:25] <sandman13> is there a way to merge toolbar and window panel in xfce4 just like in ubuntu?
[13:25] <molgrum> SASDOE: that webpage was really laggy for me :/
[13:25] <SASDOE> molgrum: in ubuntu??
[13:25] <molgrum> yes
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: don't make sure windows drive is on top of the list if you want to dual boot ubuntu/linux. i'd simply install ubuntu on the ssd as a mbr/bios install. and run boot-repair .    you can also run fixmbr from the windows install disk to reinstall windows bootstrap
[13:25] <SASDOE> and if you run htop what is your load and cpu usage?
[13:26] <SASDOE> molgrum: or top if htop not installe
[13:26] <SASDOE> d
[13:26] <mika___> hitsujiTMO: Reboot and select prober boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[13:26] <SASDOE> mika__: do what hitsujiTMO says, i'm only guessing, this guy has the knowledge
[13:27] <SASDOE> molgrum: and this isn't a VM right?
[13:27] <molgrum> SASDOE: hmm, second time, no lag
[13:27] <mika___> hitsujiTMO:  wait?!?! :O maybe i have bios setting what forces to use ssd disk...hmmm damn i go to check that too xD
[13:27] <mika___> hitsujiTMO: or do you have a idea? :)
[13:28] <sandman13> is there a way to merge toolbar and window panel in xfce4 just like in ubuntu?
[13:28] <SASDOE> sandman13: what do you mean window panel?
[13:29] <hitsujiTMO> mika___: if sdb was originally the only drive in the system then it should have a bootstrap still on its drive. try a bios boot directly to that.    the error sounds like its still in uefi boot
[13:29] <sandman13> the panel with title and close, maximize, minimize button?
[13:31] <SASDOE> sandman13: i don't think so, check out the plugins though
[13:31] <sigurding> guys, I have question regarding mini install of ubuntu server. I am trying to install 12.04 LTS in Fusion, but when the installer is "Checking the Ubuntu archive mirror" I always get an error saying: incorrect mirror specified
[13:31] <sigurding> using the full ISO instead, the installation works without any issues.
[13:32] <SASDOE> sandman13: quick check tells me no
[13:32] <sandman13> SASDOE, found this: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=15192
[13:32] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  nope, manually i try to start the samsung hdd but that reboot and select prober boot device....error is coming :/ so ssd was GPT i think somehow windows installed that uefi partition for ssd side and other windows stuff to hdd ???
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: ok, quick question. when windows was installed originally. what was the exact setup? was the ssd there?
[13:33] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  it was there
[13:34] <pecc> how in tarnation do I format an USB that is a live CD... tried disk utilities, gives errors. Details @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6463618/
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> pecc  try with gparted
[13:36] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  both disks were there.
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: then it would have installed its bootstrap to there. and not to the windows disk. the prober doesn't see the bootstrap so its not going to find it. you can use the windows disk in recovery mode to re add the windows bootstrap or, you can install ubuntu as a bios/mbr install,  then install boot-repair and run boot-repair to add the windows to ubuntus grub
[13:37] <goxl> SDL2 :No available video device in ubuntu13
[13:37] <goxl> help me
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: btw did you install windows from usb?
[13:37] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  yes, i don't have dvd slot :/
[13:38] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  or cd
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: i bet you used the windows boot disk creator tool right?
[13:39] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: i don't remember anymore how i made the usb. it has been loong time ago.
[13:39] <scrxw> Hi. I am on Ubuntu 12.04. When I move a window all the way to the right side of the screen it resizes to the whole right half on the screen. In Win7 you can use WIN+Right to move the window to that position. Is that possible in Ubuntu 12.04?
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: the official windows iso to usb tool?
[13:40] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  wait i try to remember
[13:40] <arpd> Does anyone know how I can disable the "alt-rightclick" binding in Ubuntu 13.10? It's driving me nuts.
[13:40] <inyourface09> god 13.10 is a cluster fuck -.-
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> inyourface09  mind your language
[13:41] <inyourface09> MonkeyDust, sorry :P
[13:41] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  http://www.johnpapa.net/bootfromusb/
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: if you did. that creates a windows install usb with an ntfs partition. UEFI has a requirement that it can only boot fat12/16/32 partitions. so booting that usb forced a windows mbr/bios install and installed the bootstrap to the ssd and what's caused your whole mess.
[13:42] <DwarfDefender> is it possible to make keyboard type '_' instead of '-', and '-' instead of '_'?
[13:43] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  :D you are a pro! mr linux columbo :)
[13:44] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  so i should be fine with that boot-repair. i will try it next
[13:45] <bibi346> I'd like to set up a wifi connection to a ubuntu machine : if a user connects to wifi with a password it is allowed to open an admin website, if it's anonymous it is only allow to browse another website, is it possible?
[13:45] <pecc> MonkeyDust that works, thanks a bunch!
[13:45] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: if that link is how you did it then yup its the problem. yup reinstall ubuntu as an mbr/bios install ( you'll prob need to force that in the bios/boot menu) and then run boot-repair and you should be ok
[13:46] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  but i think somehow that ubuntu doesn't install to this computer without uefi...so i can't do normal mbr install
[13:50] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: ok i try to find that mbr switch of bios...thank you
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> mika__ its should be just a case of disabling uefi boot
[13:51] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  yup
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: if you want a uefi boot then you try this: set the hdd to the primary drive. run a windows install usb and run fixmbr. this should install the bootstrap to the start of the hdd and not the ssd. test that that boots. then go back to the bios and set the ssd as the primary drive and reinstall ubuntu as uefi install. I'm not sure if os-prober will pick up mbr installs when in uefi boot, but its worth a try. if not you can then try boot
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> -repair after and it should hopefully add an entry for the mbr windows install to your grub menu
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: disabling uefi boot is the simpler method ofcource
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: your previous installs were probably working as gpt leaves space for an mbr bootsrap just incase such setups happened and at some point the bootsrap got overwritten, such as with zeroing the drive or forcing the gpt partition to erase any mbr info
[13:57] <user> How do I install node on ubuntu?
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> user: do you mean node.js?
[13:59] <user> found it
[14:00] <ronin> if i have Makefile in src directory how do i install
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> ronin: make && sudo make install
[14:00] <ikonia> ronin: you need to compile it, it's not something you should do lightly
[14:00] <ikonia> no no no no no
[14:01] <ikonia> ronin: do not do that
[14:01] <ronin> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[14:01] <ikonia> do not blindly type that
[14:01] <ikonia> ronin: what are you trying to install ?
[14:01] <LjL> i wonder if people realize "sudo make install" could do anything the Makefile writer decided it would
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> my apologies. thats the typical install scenario
[14:01] <ikonia> it is not typcial
[14:01] <ikonia> it is a foolish approach
[14:10] <philinux> since firefox 25.0.1 2 days ago flash is now borked - any one else seeing this
[14:10] <reisio> philinux: define borked
[14:11] <XHEART24> hi everyone,
[14:11] <reisio> hi
[14:11] <philinux> reisio;~ vids dont even play firefox freezes then say reload page to try again
[14:11] <reisio> philinux: screenshot?
[14:11] <XHEART24> when using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS what is a good DVD burner program in Ubuntu sotware center?
[14:11] <philinux> reisio;~ eventually says flash plugin has crashed
[14:12] <reisio> XHEART24: data dvd?
[14:12] <m1r> XHEART24: brasero default
[14:12] <XHEART24> video
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: firefox has depricated NPAPI and is removing it really soon ( if it hasn't done it yet ) which is what the flash player is based on. so that could be the problem. is ti showing up in: about:plugins
[14:12] <philinux> reisio;~ nothing to see firefox greys out thenplugin crash message appears
[14:12] <reisio> XHEART24: mmm, I really wouldn't recommend wasting time burning a video dvd
[14:13] <reisio> XHEART24: it can take an expert a whole day to manage it
[14:13] <reisio> the variables are endless
[14:13] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ yep- purged flash and reinstalled. It was fine before latest FF update as I was watching UDS vidoes
[14:13] <XHEART24> really?
[14:13] <reisio> there is never a time where it isn't cheaper to just get a media PC to use instead of a dvd player
[14:13] <reisio> XHEART24: incredibly really
[14:13] <kostkon> XHEART24: devede to create the iso' then burn it with brasero
[14:14] <reisio> you can earn in a day of work, at minimum wage, more than enough to buy a media PC
[14:14] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ are you seeing this in saucy with ff 25.0.1
[14:14] <m1r> kostkon: +1
[14:14] <XHEART24> hmmm ok
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: hmm, still working ok for me on 25.0.1
[14:15] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ righto not global then maybe i'll disable all other plugins
[14:23] <ubuntuaddicted> i'm having a heck of a time with the AMD linux driver from the website and libGL libraries so Steam is complaining that it's context is not using direct 3d rendering or something like that.
[14:23] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: from the website?
[14:23] <ubuntuaddicted> there's posts everywhere on the internet of how to fix it but many attempts have resulted in no fix. anyone have a silver bullet for this 32bit library issue when using a 64bit OS?
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntuaddicted: is this running steam in wine?
[14:24] <ubuntuaddicted> no wine
[14:24] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, yes, the latest stable AMD catalyst from the website. I created deb packages from the .run installer
[14:25] <Dan9311> Is it possible to install L4D2 on ubuntu, using the installer CD? (just moving all the game data over)
[14:25] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ right - main pc ok it's just this lappy here - odd
[14:25] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:26] <reisio> Dan9311: don't see why not
[14:26] <ubuntuaddicted> i have the following installed libgl1-mesa-glx: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1.2 and fglrx: /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: i'd almost try resetting the firefox profile to see if its a ff config issue or an issue with the plugin
[14:26] <Dan9311> reisio: The CD is made for windows installation, but in steam it says it runs on linux as well
[14:26] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ brb
[14:27] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, sadly that's what I followed which lead me with the issues
[14:27] <chro> Why when I connect headphones, and then disconnect, the sound stops working from the speakers?
[14:28] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, maybe a bad headphone jack and it's not sensing that you unplugged the headset
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> Dan9311: afaik the game cd contains a backup image. so try restore backup from the steam menu
[14:29] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, that happened to my friends apple computer. sound was permanently routed to headphones because the headphone jack thought headphones were plugged in. he had to get it repaired by replacing the jack
[14:29] <Dan9311> hitsujiTMO: The reason id like to use the CD to install, is so I dont have to wait for steam to download it.
[14:30] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, the headset is of high quality with gold jacket. That is unlikely
[14:30] <Dan9311> hitsujiTMO:  The CD contains a setup.exe, but also all the other game files
[14:30] <chro> but I will try with other headphones
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> Dan9311: have you added the cdkey to steam yet?
[14:30] <Dan9311> hitsujiTMO: Yes
[14:30] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, i didn't say the headset, i said the jack.
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> Dan9311: then try restore backup from the steam menu and point it to the CD
[14:30] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ sorted it
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: what was the problem? or did you reset the ff profile?
[14:31] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ I removed unity-system-compositor from the laptop rebooted and all fine
[14:31] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, ok let me rephrase my question. I just tested and it works fine. The problem is that if I use headphones and the shutdown the computer, and unplug the jack. Then, when I boot ubuntu I have no sound in speakers
[14:31] <arpd> Does anyone know how I can disable the "alt-rightclick" binding in Ubuntu 13.10? It's driving me nuts.
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: weird. i have unity-system-compositor installed too and not getting th eissue
[14:32] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ main pc runs on nouveax with mir just fine but since ff 25.0.1 on laptop mir causing problem with intel card
[14:32] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, have you ensured that the volume isn't really low or muted within alsamixer?
[14:32] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, I mean ubuntu didn't sense that I unplugged because the system was down when I did it
[14:32] <Dan9311> hitsujiTMO: I havnt anything to restore from, this is not the original computer it was installed on.
[14:33] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, of course. That's not the problem. I have to explicitly switch in sound settings to speakers to get sound again
[14:33] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, ah I see. i would say that's a little bug in the jack and the OS
[14:33] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ flash now fine on this laptop, mir + ff 25.0.1 and intel = flash crash
[14:34] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, yes but this didn't happen in the previous version.. This version introduced a lot of bugs like that
[14:35] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, for example, when I see a facebook photo in full screen and the escape to normal screen I lost the left lunch bar and the upper bar. (to get back I have to press super key)
[14:35] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, sometimes there's regression it happens. you could submit a bug report
[14:35] <Cor> Ìû
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> Dan9311: what i'm trying to say is that the CD image itself contains a backup image. you're restoring from the cd itself
[14:35] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, but don't you think it's a bit non-sense to have all this bugs, when in the previous version everything was fine
[14:36] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, one other bug I have is that the keyboard leds do not work (however the functionality is ok).
[14:36] <chro> and another bug is that I cannot scroll down in gedit with the mouse wheel
[14:37] <chro> nothing of this happened before
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> Dan9311: if that doesn't work then you will prob have to download the full content
[14:37] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, yes, regression sucks big time. not much you can do but submit a bug report OR fix the code yourself and submit a patch
[14:38] <Dan9311> hitsujiTMO: Yeah I cant find a backup, I appreciate the help though
[14:38] <chro> ubuntuaddicted, do you think this happens with other distros ?
[14:38] <ubuntuaddicted> chro, yes
[14:38] <MrDyne> odd, whenever I do sudo service networking restart it wipes out my background picture and desktop shortcuts until I restart.
[14:38] <chro> because I was also addicted to ubuntu, but this is too much .. especially because everything was fine on 13.4
[14:39] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ flash now fine on this laptop, mir + ff 25.0.1 and intel = flash crash
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: odd i'm even on intel here too.
[14:40] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ which card?
[14:41] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ mine >Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[14:41] <MrDyne> how do I reload my desktop so my background picture and shortcuts come back so I don't have to restart all the way?
[14:41] <MrDyne> Using Xubuntu
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: this laptop has the intel hd apu: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[14:42] <reisio> MrDyne: killall xfdesktop; nohup xfdesktop > /dev/null &
[14:42] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ must be my hardware or maybe hardware acceleration?
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> philinux: might be an issue with the older ones. if its trying to use some instruction that isn't present
[14:43] <philinux> hitsujiTMO;~ i'll disable hardware accel and try mir again. Prob tomoz now
[14:44] <molgrum> is MATE not available for install on 13.10?
[14:44] <asdfghqwertyLoop> hello guys ^_^
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> molgrum: no. there's repos for it on the mate site tho.
[14:46] <rigo88> hi. i have no sound at all on my acer aspire one zg5 aka: aoa150
[14:46] <molgrum> hitsujiTMO: do you know when it will be available from official repos?
[14:47] <rigo88> ubuntu 12.04 and kernel 3.6.3
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> molgrum: never i'm guessing.
[14:47] <MrDyne> I'm guessing for extra user security Apache (LAMP) is ran it in's own user account so if a backdoor is found only the website files can be harmed. Would it be wise to do the same for other software like Team Speak server and Minecraft server? Have each autorun at boot in it's own user account?
[14:48] <ubuntuaddicted> WOW, this graphics driver issue is 1 thing thats really holding back Linux from becoming mainstream. If I change GFX cards and want to install it driver, i shouldn't have to go to tty1 and then after it fails i'm stuck at a terminal prompt with no way of getting back to a gui.
[14:48] <ubuntuaddicted> i'm not a newb so I can fight my way through it but for people brand new, if this happened they'd be reaching for the windows installer disc right away
[14:49] <ginsun> I was asked an interesting question today: if a file w/ permissions 644 is stored in a directory with permissions 730, how might the file be compromised in this case?
[14:49] <rigo88> i installed the 12.04 server minimal system. and then apt-get install lxde
[14:49] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: you ever change graphics cards using another OS?
[14:49] <rigo88> what sould i check? or how?
[14:49] <MrDyne> I know enough not to run stuff as root, but is it safe to run servers off the normal GUI user on a Xubuntu install?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> molgrum: mate represents a step backwards in development and relies on older libs not a step forwards so its frowned upon by most. until it matures a more modern DE then it prob wont make it to the repo
[14:49] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, yes, windows xp
[14:50] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: and there was only one driver available, right?
[14:50] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, and there was a GUI for me through the entire process. drag, point and clicks versus manual commands
[14:50] <reisio> ubuntuaddicted: there's a gui for GNU/Linux as well
[14:50] <reisio> you just chose not to use it
[14:50] <reisio> because you had a choice between more than one thing
[14:50] <reisio> unlike on Windows
[14:51] <ubuntuaddicted> reisio, this is true
[14:52] <philinux> molgrum;~ you can get this now without busting unity http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/cinnamon-20-no-longer-breaks-unity-in.html
[14:53] <ubuntuaddicted> brb
[14:54] <molgrum> philinux: i installed cinnamon from official repos and it lags very much and eventually freezes up :(
[14:54] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  hello again :) windows usb-stick recovery didn't work out, i did that boot-repair and now i have atleast grub showing (but inside of grub there isn't windows)
[14:54] <philinux> molgrum;~ what about that ppa in the link - that should be fine
[14:55] <ikonia> why should a PPA be "fine"
[14:55] <philinux> ikonia;~ cos it's patched not to break unity
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: what did you try in the windows recovery?
[14:55] <ikonia> philinux: have you tested it ? tried it ? do you know people using it ?
[14:56] <philinux> ikonia;~ worked here  but i uninstalled after testing as i like unity
[14:56] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  nothing, even if i press the recovery it says my window version doesn't match or something...i could write it down again xD.
[14:56] <philinux> quote Previously, installing Cinnamon 2.0+ in Ubuntu 13.10 would completely break Unity: when trying to log in to Unity, LightDM would fail to load the session and the display manager would restart.
[14:56] <ikonia> philinux: ah, so you have actually tested it yourself then
[14:56] <ikonia> philinux: quoting things doesn't make it good, most of the worst software I've seen quotes how good it is
[14:57] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: i don't get any recovery menu....
[14:57] <philinux> ikonia;~ I'm always testing and breaking things here. i'm on trusy now
[14:57] <ikonia> philinux: I didn't ask about that, I asked if you'd tested this PPA
[14:57] <philinux> yes
[14:57] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  i hate so much microsoft :(
[14:58] <ikonia> philinux: excellent, at least you're pushing it based on personal experience.
[14:58] <philinux> ikonia;~ maybe some hardware will not like it
[14:58] <ikonia> philinux: why would hardware be a factor ?
[14:58] <philinux> ikonia;~ graphics cards can be fickle
[14:59] <ikonia> philinux: but this isn't changing the window manager, so that PPA shouldn't have an impact beyond whats already there
[14:59] <MrDyne> nothing, anyone? Isolate server programs to their own user account? Good/bad/other idea?
[14:59] <ikonia> MrDyne: what's your question ?
[14:59] <philinux> ikonia;~ agreed
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: its the recovery console you need to get to and run: bootrec /fixMBR
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: then try install ubuntu again
[15:00] <mika__> ok i try
[15:00] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  ok i try
[15:00] <saiarcot895> philinux: just out of curiosity, what PPA?
[15:00] <philinux> saiarcot895;~ http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/cinnamon-20-no-longer-breaks-unity-in.html
[15:01] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  but how i can get to that console?
[15:01] <philinux> saiarcot895;~ there's plenty of comments on the page too
[15:01] <MrDyne> Redoing my dedicated server (reformat) want to know it there is anything wrong with running Team Speak and Minecraft server in the normal gui user account? Or should I create an "server" account that only has access to the files needed to run the server programs.
[15:01] <mika__> hitsujiTMO: if i but my usb-stick in there is coming option that do i want to install windows 7 or press lower left area to choose the recovery option if i press there i get that error message
[15:01] <ikonia> MrDyne: depends on many things,
[15:02] <Rory> MrDyne: Nothing massively wrong, no, and it's easier if you're inexperienced
[15:02] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  but = put xD my bad english...sorry heh
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> mika__: when you run the windows installer i think it then asks you to install or recovery a previous installation. ( its been a long time since i've had to use it) they might be able to better expain it in ##windows
[15:02] <ikonia> MrDyne: its not a "yes/no" answer
[15:02] <TDGPU> how to setup sftp server?
[15:02] <reisio> TDGPU: ssh is sftp
[15:03] <reisio> TDGPU: so openssh-server suffices
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: install openssh-server
[15:03] <reisio> or rather, sftp is ssh :)
[15:03] <mika__> hitsujiTMO:  ok i go to try something. bb
[15:03] <TDGPU> reisio: i have ssh but it says connection refused
[15:03] <reisio> TDGPU: what says?
[15:03] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: ^^^
[15:03] <MrDyne> I would like TS and MC to autorun on boot without me having to login to an account/
[15:04] <TDGPU> i think I should add some line but i have no clue
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: are you able to ssh to the server?
[15:04] <ikonia> MrDyne: I'd be more worried about running those two applications that are pone to exploit than other minor things
[15:04] <Rory> MrDyne: Do you already have TS and MC set up how you want them, and you just want them to run on boot?
[15:05] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: ssh user@server -p <port> Yes i can
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: and what sftp client are you using?
[15:06] <MrDyne> I don't have them "setup" at the moment but it's not much more then loading java runtime, download the server jar for minecraft and Team Speak server is just a tarball you extract anywhere and run the start script.
[15:06] <MrDyne> I just was wondering if there is a better safer way to running those two programs or any others I chose to host. Like another account for just server apps.
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: i'm presuming its the sftp client that's giving the error right, not ssh
[15:07] <ikonia> MrDyne: run them how you feel confident running them securly
[15:07] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: filezilla; but the main problem is that SMF ( a php forum script) needs ftp connection. anyway in both cases i cant sftp to server; i filezilla i can sftp to server but i only have view (read-only) abilities
[15:07] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: i guess
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: try from the command line: sftp user@server -P <port>                            note the capital P
[15:08] <ubuntuaddicted> trying to sort out my libGL issues I am reading that running the 32bit version of glxinfo will help me but no where does it state how to run the 32bit version. if i run glxinfo, thats the 64bit version
[15:09] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: why would running a 32bit version of glxinfo fix anything ?
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: if that works then you can then just use scp to copy over the files, or normally what i do is ssh to it. wget the tar.gz and untar it there on the server
[15:10] <Rory> MrDyne: Since your "server" has a graphical interface, the easiest way to avoid headaches for yourself as the sysadmin further down the line, is to set it to automatically log in, and set those programs to run at startup using Startup Applications
[15:10] <ikonia> whoaaa
[15:10] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, it's not going to fix anything. it's going to show me how the libraries are linked so I can then fix it. Do you have a solution to my steam error that states, "OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering"
[15:10] <ikonia> a public server on the internet set to "auto login" - I think not
[15:10] <Rory> ikonia: Go on
[15:10] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: me too; but what about smf that needs an fp connection?
[15:11] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: what do you want to know is linked where /
[15:11] <ikonia> Rory: go on what ?
[15:11] <MrDyne> How do I create a limited user account that doesn't have gui/xserver access but can be accessed by terminal/ssh/ftp?
[15:11] <Rory> ikonia: How is sutostarting the GUI any different from starting it manually each time on boot?
[15:11] <ikonia> Rory: if you auto login you have left a session running logged in - it's wide open
[15:12] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, my opengl libraries are symlinked due to my running a 64bit OS but steam runs in 32bit. I installed the latest stable AMD driver and ldconfig wasn't correctly coded so libraries are not linked properly
[15:12] <ikonia> you're not mean to leave it "logged in" on the public internet
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: do it manually. its probably just permissions it needs to change. the manual fix should be on the website for the web app. sftp is not the same as ftp btw
[15:12] <moxie> my firefox isnt working
[15:12] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: ldconfig isn't coded correctly ??
[15:12] <Rory> MrDyne: Then you should set up TeamSpeak and Mumble as upstart scripts
[15:12] <m1sf1t> moxie: any more information? are you getting any errors reported?
[15:13] <Rory> MrDyne: That way you can manage them like "sudo service minecraft start" etc
[15:13] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: So if SMF needs an ftp not SFTP connection; what should I do? do i need to install any other package beside SSH?
[15:13] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, when i start steam, i receive the following error, "OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering" do you know how to fix it
[15:13] <Rory> MrDyne: There's a guide on how to do it for Minecraft here http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Ubuntu_startup_script
[15:13] <Rory> MrDyne: I'm sure you can also work out how to adapt it for teamSpeak as well :)
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: if you want to give it ftp access then you'd have to install and configure an ftp server ( which i would not recommend ). Normally i'd just perform the manual fixes.
[15:13] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I have no idea how to fix it without looking into it more, but it suggests opengl is not interfacting with your hardware drivers for the video card correctly at a glance
[15:15] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: it is about 20 file that needs changes in code and also in permission ( installing tapatalk on smf)
[15:15] <skinkitten> how do I install microsoft ergonimc keyboard 4000
[15:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i believe it has to do with running a 64bit OS but steam runs as 32bit so there's some symlinking done within the /usr/lib/fglrx directories to point to the correct lib's so steam can run correctly
[15:15] <skinkitten> I plugged it in and there is no response
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: realistically there not reason why a php app should need ftp access, all the developer needs to do is preserve permissions when tarring the archive.
[15:15] <jinglescafe> Hello, I run a cafe with ubuntu machines.  I just did a mass  update for all my cafe machines. Now, The firefox is not working.
[15:15] <jinglescafe> Pardon my engilish.
[15:15] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: ok, so look at what it's linked against if you think that
[15:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i can't since i don't know how to run glxinfo as 32bit
[15:16] <ikonia> why do you need glxinfo ?
[15:16] <ikonia> it won't exist in 32bit land as you are running 64bit
[15:17] <jinglescafe> How do i reinstall FireFox?
[15:17] <ikonia> jinglescafe: why would re-installing firefox do anything ?
[15:17] <ikonia> jinglescafe: why don't you explain what' "not working"
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: if thats the case then either install an ftp client, or find a script that will do that for you, OR, use another forum software that doesn't require you installing a security threat
[15:18] <jinglescafe> When we click firefox, it brings us to the login screen.
[15:18] <MrDyne> Rory: install the terminal "screen" package then you can have the autostart script load the server in a screen socket which you can connect to if you need to run server commands without having to be in the game.
[15:18] <ikonia> jinglescafe: what login screen ?
[15:18] <jinglescafe> The Ubuntu Login Screen
[15:18] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: Good advice; i try to find out away to install it manually;;; thanks;;;
[15:18] <jinglescafe> Where we type user name and password
[15:19] <ikonia> jinglescafe: so you click "firefox" and it logs you at and takes you back to the login screen ?
[15:19] <jinglescafe> Yes
[15:19] <ikonia> jinglescafe: open a terminal and type "firefox"
[15:19] <jinglescafe> Okay.
[15:21] <jinglescafe> Cannot execute binary file.
[15:21] <jinglescafe> I had to do it 5 times to read it
[15:21] <jinglescafe> it kept going to the login screen.
[15:22] <ikonia> jinglescafe: type "which firefox"
[15:22] <jinglescafe> which firefox
[15:22] <ikonia> jinglescafe: in a terminal
[15:22] <jinglescafe> Okay
[15:22] <Rory> MrDyne: Sounds like good advice
[15:22] <jinglescafe> it says /tmp/. /kit/firefox
[15:23] <ikonia> jinglescafe: ok, so that is not where firefox is installed
[15:23] <ikonia> jinglescafe: that means you have installed firefox/updated firefox in a non-standard way
[15:23] <Rory> MrDyne: "screen" is an absolutely essential package for any server IMO anyway, it allows you to re-attach to your terminal session over SSH at a later time
[15:23] <jinglescafe> I installed all the updates from the software update.
[15:23] <jinglescafe> is that wrong?
[15:24] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: the sftp command connects with the server nicely but when transfaring data says Permission denied.
[15:24] <ikonia> jinglescafe: no, however your firefox binary should not be in /tmp/kit/firefox
[15:24] <motaka2> hello I was working in ubuntu 12.04, suddenly it said the folder /home/donkarlo/Netbeans does not have write permissions. I tries sudo chmod -R 755 on home/donkarlo and I restarted and now in the boot list when I chose ubuntu or windows none come up but they end to a dark screen
[15:24] <Rory> motaka2: You completely broke permissions throughout your home directory
[15:25] <motaka2> Rory: What is the solution ?
[15:25] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, here's a ldconfig command showing me all the linking but I am not sure what I can safely remove? I know i need to keep the fglrx links.
[15:25] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, sorry, forgot link http://pastebin.com/TsNvnSGW
[15:25] <Rory> motaka2: Wait, when you select from the Grub boot menu? or when you log into ubuntu?
[15:25] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: ldconfig doesnt show you what your linked against
[15:25] <Rory> motaka2: Changing permissions on your ubuntu home directory wouldn't cause that problem, it must be a coincidence, is there anything else you were doing around the same time?
[15:25] <motaka2> Rory: When I select Grub boot menu
[15:26] <motaka2> Rory: I dont remeber anything more
[15:26] <jinglescafe> motaka2, did you update firefox?
[15:26] <Rory> jinglescafe: That has nothing to do with it, don't confuse people
[15:26] <motaka2> jinglescafe: I dont know I always accept all updates without checking them
[15:26] <jinglescafe> I pardon
[15:27] <moxie> i did...
[15:27] <moxie> i havent rebooted yet >_<
[15:27] <Rory> motaka2: I recommend you boot from an ubuntu Live CD/USB and follow the instructions here to restore Grub using boot-repair tool https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:27] <motaka2> Rory: ok
[15:27] <moxie> i take it...rebooting would be a bad idea
[15:27] <motaka2> Rory: thank you
[15:27] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, ok. here's ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo report BUT i believe this is for the 64bit version of glxinfo and I need the 32bit since steam is running as 32bit http://pastebin.com/aXDX4bP7
[15:29] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: why are you looking at glxinfo ???
[15:29] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: glxinfo doesn't do anything
[15:29] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: run "file" against glxinfo
[15:30] <jinglescafe> file firefox
[15:30] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, from what I have been reading it will allow me to collect useful diagnostic info.
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: where you transferring to? /var/www ?
[15:30] <moxie> shutdown -r now
[15:30] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: look at that output - it's pointing at 32bit libraries already
[15:30] <moxie> ...
[15:30] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I'm not sure why you care about glxinfo
[15:30] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, ok, you're correct. the glxinfo is according to that output 32-bit LSB executable
[15:30] <motaka2> Rory: I cant see Boot-Repair
[15:31] <lordcrusader> hi friends  need help to repair corrupted ubuntu partition using ubuntu bootable usb disk?
[15:31] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: there you go, 32bit
[15:31] <ikonia> but I don't know what that shows you/why you care
[15:31] <bekks> lordcrusader: Define "corrupted" please.
[15:31] <bobpit> I have ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.  I want to install Skype and therefore I am reading about Multiarch
[15:31] <Rory> Does that page not have instructions for that? My apologies motaka2 here is the correct link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:31] <bobpit> how can I know that multiarch is correctly installed and working?
[15:32] <motaka2> Rory: thx
[15:32] <lordcrusader> bekks it had bad sector unable to recover ,.. it
[15:32] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, ok, i just have to figure out how to get 32bit steam to run using libGL 32bit libraries. I believe that's the issue. The error again is "OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering"
[15:32] <lunitik> bobpit: you will be able to run skype.
[15:32] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: yes
[15:32] <bobpit> I have installed it, but I had problems so I removed it
[15:32] <bobpit> and I want to do it right from the start
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: is there anything there now? or is this the first app you're installing?
[15:32] <bekks> lordcrusader: To the disk is corrupted, not just the filesystem.
[15:33] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: the SMF is there
[15:33] <lordcrusader> bekks .. is there any way to resolve it
[15:33] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: but you're just installing that now right?
[15:33] <bekks> TDGPU: SMF on Ubuntu - never. Or Is there a Solaris port? ;)
[15:33] <bekks> lordcrusader: Replace the disk with a new one.
[15:33] <motaka2> Rory: I have an ubuntu live cd, what should I do with it ?
[15:33] <bobpit> lunitik, as I said, I had problems with Skype
[15:33] <lordcrusader> *bekks my files are there
[15:33] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, this is what's posted at steam website to help troubleshoot why steam (opengl libraries) is not running correctly
[15:33] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, duh, forgot link again https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9938-EYZB-7457
[15:34] <Rory> motaka2: Boot from it, and follow the instructions on that link
[15:34] <lunitik> bobpit: back then, it was just a case of installing the right libs with lib32- in front... right now it is cleaner... does skype even support such an old version though?
[15:34] <bekks> lordcrusader: Didnt you back them up?
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> bekks: smf = simple machines forum :p
[15:34] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: ah, thats uninteresting :D
[15:34] <jinglescafe> I reinstalled the FireFox
[15:34] <bobpit> lunitik, you are saying that mutliarch is useless?  I do not need it?
[15:34] <motaka2> Rory: I dont understand those instructions
[15:34] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: ok, so now you have the information that page says you need
[15:34] <jinglescafe> It says I must pay money to unlock the machine.
  no i have not backup for some of them.
[15:35] <lunitik> bobpit: where have you understood that from in my words?
[15:35] <jinglescafe> Why do I have to pay?
[15:35] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, lol, i have no idea what to do with it.
[15:35] <jinglescafe> I thought ubuntu is free.
[15:35] <ikonia> jinglescafe: ubuntu is free
[15:35] <Rory> motaka2: Have you booted from the LiveCD
[15:35] <ikonia> jinglescafe: what are you actually doing
[15:35] <Rory> jinglescafe: What message are you seeing?
[15:35] <bobpit> lunitik, yes.... I am sorry
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l /var/www
[15:35] <motaka2> Rory: Yes and I see a page in front of me suggesting to choose a language
[15:35] <lunitik> bobpit: I am really saying I don't remember what stuff looked like 18 months ago.
[15:36] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: i didn't have ftp while installing it . i did install manually not by the install.php;;;; now i am trying to install a plugin (tapatalk == post to froum from android devices) and that needs ftp too
 is there any way to resolve it .. pls give some guidelines . thanks
[15:36] <bekks> lordcrusader: do you have a medium to backup your files now?
[15:36] <lunitik> bobpit: I think I am suggesting you upgrade unless there is a real reason you want such old software.
[15:36] <Rory> motaka2: Boot from the Live CD and select the option to "Try ubuntu"
[15:36] <TDGPU> bekks: SMF simple machine forum;;; it is an php script
[15:36] <jinglescafe> Department of Homeland Security’s ICE Cyber Crime Center,
 ya i have
[15:36] <jinglescafe> I did no crime.
[15:36] <TDGPU> bekks: like the one on ubuntu forums
[15:36] <lunitik> bobpit: most software is written for the newest stuff, especially desktop software.
[15:37] <ikonia> jinglescafe: I suggest you talk to the cafe owner about their network
[15:37] <bobpit> lunitik, I have the latest ubuntu 12.04 lts and I want to stick to it.  You suggest I upgrade Skype, Multiarch or Ubuntu?
[15:37] <bekks> TDGPU: Obviously, thats scamware.
[15:37] <ikonia> jinglescafe: it sounds like there is a serious problem with these machines and his network that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:37] <lunitik> bobpit: Ubuntu.
[15:37] <jinglescafe> I am the cafe owner.
[15:37] <TDGPU> bekks: which onr? :D
[15:37] <motaka2> Rory: Seems it is loading
[15:37] <bekks> TDGPU: "onr"?
[15:37] <bobpit> lunitik, I prefer the LTS, as it is SUPPOSED to be more stable
 does need to replace my harddisk..or i can solve it
[15:37] <ikonia> jinglescafe: ok, please run the following commands and show me the output
[15:38] <bekks> lordcrusader: You need to backup your files and you need to relace your harddisk.
[15:38] <ikonia> jinglescafe: ls -la /usr/bin/firefox
[15:38] <lunitik> bobpit: It is just supported longer, every release gets constant regression testing and the like.
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: what i'm guessing is that you never changed ownership of the /var/www and had to use sudo when copying over/extracting the SMF files right?
[15:38] <huyinghuan> there is a "iptables -I INPUT -p 47 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT" iptables command,but I don't know which file to add it?
 thank for your guides
[15:38] <bobpit> lunitik, I prefer to stay with 12.04.  Now do I need to concern with multiarch?
[15:39] <motaka2> Rory: Should it take this long ? It is still loading
[15:39] <jinglescafe> Okay
[15:39] <lunitik> bobpit: If you want to stay with 12.04, since skype is proprietary, you're gonna have to do without.
[15:39] <Rory> motaka2: Depends on your hardware. What are you seeing?
[15:39] <Rory> motaka2: a Live CD is slower to load than a real installation
[15:39] <bobpit> lunitik, skype download site has a version for 12.04 multiarch
[15:39] <bobpit> lunitik, so I am looking into it
[15:40] <motaka2> Rory: No it changed to a mouse pointer and default desktop with icons, I think it loaded
[15:40] <chro> why does it go the help page when I click on "Report a bug" here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[15:40] <jinglescafe> it won't me let me go to terminal
[15:40] <jinglescafe> says I have to pay
[15:40] <jinglescafe> :(
[15:40] <yash069> huyinghuan: run that commnad an then simply do "service iptables save"
[15:40] <moxie> pay then
[15:40] <ikonia> jinglescafe: ok - someone has compromised your ubuntu machines or your cafe network
[15:40] <ikonia> moxie: stop it
[15:40] <ikonia> moxie: that's not helpful,
[15:40] <yash069> *and
[15:40] <motaka2> Rory: I think it is loaded
[15:41] <chro> How can I report a bug
[15:41] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: the ownership nginx:www-htdocs ;;;; oh wait i have to add them to sshd config file are't I?m (what a idiot i am )
[15:41] <bobpit> lunitik, so, how do I know multiarch is correct on my system?  this is my question
[15:41] <jinglescafe> I will file a ubuntu bug
[15:41] <ikonia> jinglescafe: do not put any personal information into these ubuntu machines - it sounds like you ahve been compromised
[15:41] <Rory> motaka2: OK now follow each instruction here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu
[15:41] <moxie> jinglescafe, was there a hacker in your place?
[15:41] <ikonia> jinglescafe: this is NOT an ubuntu bug
[15:41] <ikonia> jinglescafe: do not file a bug - this is not an ubuntu bug
[15:41] <lunitik> chro: It doesn't, top right has "report a bug" and doesn't go there.
[15:41] <jinglescafe> moxie, there was this guy in strange clothes here the other day
[15:41] <Rory> motaka2: jinglescafe Can you take a picture of what you're seeing?
[15:42] <bekks> jinglescafe: you are the victim of some scamware. Its like a trojan on Windows just wanting your money.
[15:42] <moxie> strange clothes lol, thats him
[15:42] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, maybe you could explain this. why is there 1 file pointing to 1 and then that points to another. it's so confussing? here's libGL.so -> libGL.so.1, libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.2   Whats the point in even doing that?
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: is your user a member of www-htdocs and has the folders got g+ws permission?
[15:42] <chro> lunitik, ok I think it goes because I just reported 2 bugs in the same hour
[15:42] <bekks> moxie: Yeah, Mr. Smith always wears these strange black clothes and strange black glasses ;)
[15:42] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I've no idea, I'd have to look at the problem properly, I've not been paying attention
[15:42] <jinglescafe> ubuntu is virus free
[15:42] <moxie> jinglescafe, use system restore
[15:42] <jinglescafe> thats what i was told!
[15:42] <ikonia> jinglescafe: this isn't a virus
[15:42] <lunitik> bobpit: The skype package is supposed to depend the lib32-foo packages, which is probably why it is labeled "multiarch"... newer versions of apt just use :i386 at the end of the package to determine... stop thinking so much.
[15:43] <Rory> jinglescafe Can you take a picture of what you're seeing?
[15:43] <ikonia> jinglescafe: disconncect your machines from the network - and contact an IT support person to evaluate your network the re-install your ubuntu desktops from a trusted source
[15:43] <jinglescafe> I will re-install after I take picture
[15:43] <ikonia> jinglescafe: do not re-install until your network has been validated
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: is nginx running as the user nginx?
[15:43] <bobpit> lunitik, sorry, got lost now.  What am I supposed to do?
[15:43] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, ok
[15:44] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: what video hardware are you using and what drivers did you install for it?
[15:44] <jinglescafe> ikonia, it is happening on every computer here, except the  mac i am on.
[15:44] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: yup
[15:44] <jinglescafe> all 12 of the ubuntu computers
[15:44] <Rory> jinglescafe: Where did you get your ubuntu installation images?
[15:44] <Kori> m
[15:44] <ikonia> jinglescafe: that doesn't change what I said
[15:44] <Kori> bit.do/ sexcam I'm live here, making a show right now, come visit me, totally free
[15:45] <bobpit> lunitik, I appreciate the help, but please talk to me in more plain english
[15:45] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, HD5750 and I installed the latest stable AMD catalyst from the website. Any assistance with this 32bit and 64bit libGL libraries would be much apprecaited.
[15:45] <jinglescafe> Ubuntu System 76
[15:45] <ikonia> jinglescafe: please get someone to validate your network, then re-install your desktops from a TRUSTED source
[15:45] <Rory> Kori: Bye
[15:45] <Kori> bit.do/ sexcam I'm live here, making a show right now, come visit me, totally free
[15:45] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: and the group permissions are ok; the problem is that i need to declare them in sshd
[15:45] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: did glxinfo say you were using direct rendering?
[15:45] <jinglescafe> Okay. I have terminal on one machine
[15:45] <jinglescafe> I have to email it to me to paste it here.
[15:45] <ikonia> jinglescafe: forget it - you need to get your network validated/secured, then a re-install
[15:46] <ikonia> jinglescafe: pleae do not paste any more informtion
[15:46] <moxie> use a pastebin
[15:46] <lunitik> bobpit: Just install the skype package via dpkg -i ... if it complains, treat it as instruction - it might complain packages are needed, for instance.
[15:46] <hurdorbsd> any one using ZTE AC8700 bsnl modem on 13.10?
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: then /var/www should not be owned by nginx. its a security risk. if someone finds a vulnerability in a script and they have write permissions then can dump their own php script or even overwrite any of the phpscripts
[15:47] <moxie> i fixed my problem, yay
[15:47] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, it says I am not
[15:47] <jinglescafe> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 837514 Feb 13 10:11 bb*
[15:47] <jinglescafe> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 535683 Feb 13 10:11 firefox*
[15:47] <jinglescafe> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root  78314 Feb 13 10:11 nc*
[15:47] <yash069> hurdorbsd: probably no one... but someone can help if u give more info
[15:47] <ikonia> jinglescafe: stop
[15:47] <thai-2012> hi! please help? How to install opera next to Ubuntu 12 04? I don't see opera in Software center
[15:48] <bobpit> lunitik, so Multiarch is installed and working correctly?  I need to close this subject
[15:48] <jinglescafe> I pardon
[15:48] <ikonia> jinglescafe: do not paste any more information, contact an IT professional to validate your network then re-install ubuntu from a trusted source
[15:48] <truebattleaxe> sudo apt-get install opera
[15:48] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: it looks like either you installed the driver improperly, or your graphics card dosent support direct rendering to begin with
[15:48] <ikonia> jinglescafe: there is no point with anymore discussion
[15:48] <hurdorbsd> yash you from India?
[15:48] <thai-2012> truebattleaxe :)
[15:48] <jinglescafe> I will try Opera now.
[15:48] <ikonia> jinglescafe: no no no no no
[15:48] <lunitik> bobpit: multiarch isn't a thing you can install, it is just packages compiled for another arch.
[15:48] <jinglescafe> thank you truebattleaxe
[15:48] <ikonia> jinglescafe: until you are confident your network is "ok" - there is no point doing anything else
[15:48] <truebattleaxe> no problem
[15:48] <truebattleaxe> it should work in terminal
[15:48] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, the card supports it because I had this working just last night. BUT I tried to install the latest BETA AMD catalyst and everything got hosed from there
[15:49] <ikonia> jinglescafe: do not install anything else
[15:49] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: So what should I do;any script of mine that is there and need to do something should operate on nginx user to be able to do its job
[15:49] <bobpit> lunitik, so it IS working.  ok
[15:49] <jinglescafe> Why?
[15:49] <ikonia> jinglescafe: there is a good chance your network is compromised if it's on every ubuntu machine
[15:49] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: well revert back to what worked
[15:49] <ikonia> jinglescafe: you need to get your network validated / secured before doing anything else
[15:49] <hurdorbsd> guys actually I want to use Ubuntu or ubuntu based disto as my full time OS now .. I am a Debian user .. But I want to know if my modem would work on 13.10 .. my modem is zte ac8700
[15:49] <jinglescafe> Ubuntu is virus free.
[15:49] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, im guessing AMD's .run installer does not properly uninstall previous versions etc etc
[15:49] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: but you are right; if someone get the hold on the server i am finished
[15:49] <jinglescafe> Thats why I got Ubuntu Computers
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: what are the scripts for ( or do you mean the php scripts )
[15:49] <lunitik> bobpit: I have no idea, I usually define working as "doing what I want"
[15:49] <ikonia> jinglescafe: this is not a virus
[15:49] <motaka2> Rory: I did it untill using boot repair
[15:50] <ikonia> jinglescafe: thats why I'm warning you about your NETWORK not your ubuntu machines
[15:50] <jinglescafe> what is bb?
[15:50] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: the php scripts 9currently being SMF and dokuwiki)
[15:50] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, i can't since the uninstaller in the .run file from AMD's website does NOT remove these errant symlinks to the 32bit and 64bit libraries for opengl stuff
[15:50] <jinglescafe> i see firefox , but what is this bb file
[15:50] <yash069> thai-2012: http://deb.opera.com/
[15:50] <Rory> motaka2: What do you mean? Did you follow all the instructions?
[15:50] <moxie> busbox
[15:50] <hurdorbsd> the issue with my modem is it don't work with network manager so I have to use wvdial to dial it everytime .. but my any linux with 3.9 or newer kernel doesn't seem to detect my modem in wvdial ..
[15:50] <thai-2012> i can't install Opera. Ubuntu writes me  	
[15:50] <thai-2012> Reading state information... Done
[15:50] <thai-2012> Package opera is not available, but is referred to in the list of dependencies of another package.
[15:50] <thai-2012> This may mean that the package is missing, obsolete, or is available from sources not mentioned in the sources.list
[15:50] <thai-2012> E: For the package «opera» is not found installation candidate
[15:50] <FloodBot1> thai-2012: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: restore from backup
[15:50] <moxie> lol theres nc too
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: they do not need to owned by nginx.
[15:50] <lunitik> bobpit: Whatever the problem, though, it isn't multiarch, which you're thinking about just to confuse yourself it seems.
[15:51] <motaka2> i see a window opend called boot repair
[15:51] <motaka2> what should i do now?
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: nginx/php-fpm just needs read only access to them
[15:51] <moxie> busybox, nc, and firefox....quick load firefox and login to your bank account to check your funds!
[15:51] <Rory> motaka2: So you have done "step 1" which is "launch boot repair"
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: can I ask where you got the guide for this setup?
[15:51] <Rory> moxie: Now follow step 2
[15:51] <yash069> thai-2012: use the method here .. there was no ubutnu package for opera .... http://deb.opera.com/
[15:51] <bobpit> lunitik, https://wiki.debian.org/skype says about activating multiarch, to make sure Skype works
[15:51] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, that's my last resort yes. I have a partition image of my / partition so I coudl do that but I am trying to understand what steam  needs and how to fix this instead of just reinstalling. That's after all what the windows lemmings do when something doesnt' work right, they just reinstall. I want to fix it
[15:52] <thai-2012> sorry! what is http://paste.ubuntu.com/? How to use it?
[15:52] <thai-2012> yash069 thanks
[15:52] <yash069> do not paste more than 3 lines here
[15:52] <Rory> thai-2012: Paste your text into it, add a name, then submit. Copy the URL into this channel
[15:52] <yash069> paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:52] <thai-2012> Rory Thanks. I understand
[15:52] <thai-2012>  
[15:52] <jinglescafe> I took pic, and reinstalling the system.
[15:53] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: learn what is installed by your installer then write a script to remove it all.
[15:53] <ikonia> jinglescafe: there is no point re-installing the systems at this time
[15:53] <Rory> jinglescafe: Can I see the pic anyway?
[15:53] <TDGPU> hitsujiTMO: no one place; i serach here and there; i was a nightmare. and look what a mess i am in; So i must forget about the ftp/sftp issue and fix this security hole first;;;; thanks;;;; anytrue guide on nginx-phpfpm ???
[15:53] <ikonia> jinglescafe: do you understand that if your network is compromised - you will just have the same problems again
[15:53] <jinglescafe> iknoia, you tell that to my customers.
[15:53] <jinglescafe> they have banking they need to do
[15:53] <bekks> jinglescafe: Give us their contacts, we will tell them.
[15:53] <Rory> jinglescafe: With all due respect, if you're running an Internet cafe, it's your responsibility to secure your network
[15:53] <yash069> exiy
[15:53] <ikonia> jinglescafe: no, YOU tell it to your customers that you are unable to run a secure internet cafe after taking their money and they may have lost their personal details to you
[15:54] <bekks> jinglescafe: First you need to ensure your network isnt compromised anymore.
[15:54] <ikonia> jinglescafe: you are putting your customers at huge risk
[15:54] <ikonia> jinglescafe: this conversation needs to end now
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, i could do that also. here's what glxinfo is reporting and I believe i need that libGL.so.1 to point to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL instead of it pointing to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 because that libGL version is from mesa and apparently doesn't do direct rendering
[15:54] <jinglescafe> Rory, where do i send the picuter?
[15:55] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: you could try symlinking it
[15:55] <DTB> firefox does not fault the site?
[15:55] <thai-2012> so i'm here: http://deb.opera.com/opera-beta/dists/stable/ what i must do next? sorry, i'm only start learn Ubuntu
[15:55] <Rory> jinglescafe: Put it on http://imgur.com or whatever you prefer, and then share the URL in this channel
[15:55] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, that's what's all screwed up, is the symlinking and what I am trying to fix
[15:55] <ikonia> DTB: no, it appears the firefox binary has been replaced
[15:56] <pfifo> ubuntuaddicted: to remove a symlink use the 'rm' command to add a symlink use the 'ln' command, good luck
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: I can only tell you what i'd do. if you were to start from scratch for the /var/www directory: sudo rm -r /var/www; sudo mkdir /var/www;       then create the group www-user    andd your user to that group. then: sudo chown root:www-user /var/www; sudo chmod g+ws /var/www;                  relog and that would get you the neccessary permissions so that your user can administrate the web apps without compromising the security of the d
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> irectory
[15:57] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464264/
[15:57] <jenielle> ok i downloaded and burned ubuntu one to a disc and did a full install replacing my windows 7  and when it gets to the part to reboot  i reboot the computer and the error message i get is "windows failed to start. a recent hardware or software change might be the cause"  need help. i instilled ubuntu twice and still same message. please advise
[15:58] <Rory> fishcooker: Can you run "sudo apt-get update"
[15:59] <pac1> why does my disk light constantly flash?
[15:59] <thai-2012> i have another question. Can i install XAMPP to Ubuntu? Possible? and how?
[15:59] <motaka2> Rory: i dont think if i did something usefull if i have not ruined it more
[16:00] <jinglescafe> ok i think firefox is working on some now
[16:00] <jinglescafe> thank you
[16:00] <fishcooker> yes this is the result Rory http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464291/
[16:00] <D4CH_RPi> How do I set up a network share link? I mean... On windows in "Computer" I have a samba share on my raspberry pi connected to my WIN pc, how do I create a link on Ubuntu?
[16:00] <sw> !xampp | thai-2012
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: then install everything as normal. you won't need sudo to write to that dir at all. you might need to make sure nginx and php-fpm are running as umask 0002 but thats only a minor issue
[16:01] <thai-2012> sw Thanks. I have 64-bit system. it works on 64?
[16:01] <DTB> http://www.flickr.com/photos/98399652@N04/11011620174/
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> TDGPU: that will also work with sftp without the need to change any config in sshd
[16:02] <sw> thai-2012, can you read? "We do not support XAMPP installs here"
[16:02] <jenielle> i installed version 13.10 is that the problem
[16:02] <thai-2012> sw ok. sorry
[16:02] <DTB> which is the failed my bad non
[16:02] <ubuntuaddicted> pfifo, thanks for trying to help. i've had enough. been at this for 4 hours. restoring image finally. LOL
[16:02] <ubuntuaddicted> ttyl guys
[16:02] <bekks> jinglescafe: Your networkj is still compromised. You should tell your customers to not share any information.
[16:03] <jinglescafe> I called a IT person to look at it, he should be here after ThanksGiving
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> thai-2012: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP   that will tell you how to install the lamp stack the ubuntu way
[16:03] <jinglescafe> he will look at it then.
[16:03] <ikonia> jinglescafe: until that time do not use your computers/network
[16:03] <jinglescafe> Firefox is working now.
[16:03] <ikonia> jinglescafe: your customers are at risk
[16:03] <jinglescafe> All is happy :)
[16:04] <ikonia> jinglescafe: it's not, your customers are at risk
[16:04] <bekks> jinglescafe: And you will leave your customers at risk for more than a week.
[16:04] <ikonia> jinglescafe: you have been compromised
[16:04] <jinglescafe> If you ever at my cafe, I will give you free time !
[16:04] <jenielle> i have a 64bit system. am64 8 core cpu with 8gb of ram and 1.5tb hard disk so i have more then enough to run ubuntu. plus i hadit running on this pc before but it wasnt a full install.
[16:04] <jinglescafe> I think the computers are safe now
[16:04] <ikonia> jinglescafe: they are not
[16:04] <jinglescafe> No more warnings
[16:04] <jenielle> please help
[16:04] <Rory> fishcooker: It looks like your package lists are corrupted somehow. I have a script which sorts that (and other package-related errors) out quite a lot of the time. It is here http://rory.sh/fixpackages - you can download and run it, or rn the commands one-by-one yourself
[16:04] <bekks> jinglescafe: youre computers are NOT safe. Your network is compromised.
[16:04] <ikonia> jinglescafe: you have been compromised, do you understand - your computers are NOT safe
[16:04] <Rory> jenielle: More than enough :)
[16:05] <fishcooker> would you like to see this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464314/, Rory
[16:05] <ikonia> jinglescafe: where is this photo you took
[16:05] <fishcooker> it seems there is package without the name
[16:05] <Rory> fishcooker: My script completely removes and recrates /var/lib/dpkg
[16:05] <Rory> recreates*
[16:05] <jenielle> butit keeps giving me the message when i reboot that windows failedto start
[16:06] <jinglescafe> I emailed it
[16:06] <Rory> jenielle: Can you access your BIOS settings and check the boot order of your hard drives?
[16:06] <ikonia> jinglescafe: to where ?
[16:06] <jinglescafe> to my account so i can post it
[16:06] <ikonia> jinglescafe: lets see it then
[16:06] <bekks> jinglescafe: Upload it, and give us the URL.
[16:06] <DTB> http://www.flickr.com/photos/98399652@N04/11011620174/
[16:06] <Rory> jinglescafe: If you don't know how you can forward the email to jinglescafe@rory.sh and I will share it here for you
[16:07] <jenielle> of course yes. i have my cd drive first and 1.5tb hard disk second and 500gb hard disk third
[16:07] <jinglescafe> I emailed it from my phone to my account, please be patient
[16:07] <jenielle> sorry for being a smart ass.
[16:07] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> jenielle: that suggests that part of windows is still there
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> jenielle: what way did you install?
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> It suggests that Grub did not install correctly to the first bootable drive and Windows is still trying to load.
[16:08] <jenielle> right that's what i figured but that should mean i have a bad download of the system files
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> jenielle: No, the installer would be unlikely to complete in that case.
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> jenielle: are you on the live cd now?
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> jenielle: The problem is simply with the bootloader.
[16:09] <Rory> jenielle: It's likely that the Windows bootloader is on the 1.5tb drive which is being booted from, whereas the Ubuntu installer may have installed it to the 500gb drive
[16:09] <jenielle> erase the current operating system and intall ubuntu........that the install method i used
[16:09] <jhutchins_wk> jenielle: The system uses checksums to insure it doesn't install bad softwarea.
[16:09] <Rory> jenielle: If you change your BIOS to boot from the other hard drive, does it work?
[16:10] <jenielle> imade sure i used the 1.5 to install ubuntu. because on the 500 all i have on there are pics and music. no operating system.
[16:10] <jenielle> no i tried that already
[16:11] <Rory> jenielle: Are you on the Live CD now?
[16:11] <jinglescafe> DTB, How do I accept your file transfer?
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> jenielle: are you in the live cd now?
[16:11] <jenielle> by the way im on my wifes laptop
[16:11] <fishcooker> Rory: what happen here .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464333/
[16:11] <jinglescafe> Okay, i got it. And I run it?
[16:11] <jenielle> that's how im talking to you
[16:11] <jhutchins_wk> jenielle: A couple of common problems are that the drives are detected in a different order by the installer than by the installed system, or that people install grub to a partition instead of to the drive itself.
[16:12] <jhutchins_wk> jenielle: You could look at the link above to grub2 and it will give you instructions on how to fix it.
[16:12] <jenielle> my cp wont boot up into windows or ubuntu
[16:13] <Rory> fishcooker: Can you run "sudo mv /var/lib/apt /var/lib/apt.bak"
[16:13] <jinglescafe> jenille: what is wrong?
[16:13] <ikonia> jinglescafe: paste the photo please.
[16:13] <Rory> fishcooker: fishcooker and then "sudo mv /var/cache/apt /var/cache/apt.bak"
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> jenielle: i'd recommend this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:14] <jenielle> grub2?
[16:14] <Rory> jenielle: Grub2 is the ubuntu boot loader
[16:14] <BluesKaj> one should always seththe windows drive as default (if windows is installed) then ubiquity will install grub to the mbr on that drive , tha's been my experience
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> jenielle: 2nd option in that link
[16:14] <Rory> jenielle: The boot-repair option linked above will "auto-magically" fix stuff
[16:14] <SASDOE> jinglescafe: to confirm: you do know you CANNOT let your custommers do any banking on your computers until you have dealt with the problem .?
[16:14] <samuelx> Are there nightly builds of 13.10 that include updates that came out after the release?
[16:14] <bekks> jinglescafe: Where is your picture upload?
[16:15] <Rory> samuelx: No
[16:15] <bekks> SASDOE: He knows and seems to ignore that fact.
[16:15] <Rory> samuelx: LTS releases like 12.04 occasionally get their updates rolled into new isos (we're on 12.04.3 now, for example) but it's not worth it for non-LTS releases
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: no. any builds after that are trusty
[16:15] <jenielle> ok. but what i don't understand is that i installed ubuntu last time along side my current operating system and it work flawlessly
[16:15] <Rory> jenielle: People have explained what the problem might be, and how to fix it
[16:16] <SASDOE> jenielle: that's the magic of computers for you
[16:16] <pfifo> samuelx: there is the *-updates repos, thats the closest thing
[16:16] <senderosc> l'ultima ruota del carro
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> !it | senderosc
[16:16] <motaka2> Rory: nothing changed
[16:17] <samuelx> Dang... Here's my problem. I'd like to install 13.10 with an encrypted root but there's a bug with a missing USB driver that causes crypt-setup to not accept input at boot. Supposedly fixed in new releases.
[16:17] <ikonia> jinglescafe: got your photo uploaded yet ?
[16:17] <samuelx> I was hoping to be able to install a newer version so I wouldn't have to muck about with chroot/update via a live cd to get a bootable system
[16:17] <jenielle> rory: doesnt matter which version that i had installed?
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: can you chroot to the filesystem and i can tell you how to fix the bug
[16:17] <jinglescafe> i sent it to Rory.
[16:17] <Rory> jenielle: What do you mean? You are running a different Live version to what you have installed?
[16:18] <pfifo> ubuntu supports encrypted root now?
[16:18] <motaka2> Rory: no
[16:18] <samuelx> pfifo: Yep ... pretty slick too.
[16:18] <bekks> pfifo: It always did.
[16:18] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Hey you helped me out with this a little while back but I couldn't get it to work so put it aside for a while.
[16:18] <motaka2> i hate ubuntu
[16:18] <Rory> motaka2: no what?
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: you can also fix it at the end of the install.
[16:18] <jenielle> i installed on my cp version 13.10
[16:18] <Rory> motaka2: You're free to use whatever OS you like
[16:18] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Rather than muck it up again I was hoping there was a newer image i could use that had the fix.
[16:18] <jinglescafe> mot aka, ubuntu is good. its free its better than windows 95 I had installed
[16:18] <wilornel> Hey guys. Yesterday I had trouble setting up Ubuntu alongside Windows 8, so I decided to just use Ubuntu on  that laptop. Problem is, the same error popped up when installing Ubuntu : "grum-efi-amd64-signed failed to install..." . Now, I guess the solution to that problem is to boot my live USB through Legacy mode in order to install Ubuntu in legacy mode. Before doing that.. I had to ask what you guys think and, what exactly UEFI add
[16:18] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: At the end of the install? How?
[16:18] <jenielle> there is a another version 12.04
[16:18] <pfifo> bekks: no it didnt, you had to use the alternate installer for a long time to get anything special setup
[16:19] <jinglescafe> I am teasing about 95!
[16:19] <wilornel> grub*
[16:19] <jinglescafe> lol
[16:19] <motaka2> Rory:  what should ido?
[16:19] <jinglescafe> I made a funny
[16:19] <jinglescafe> oh
[16:19] <senderosc> .
[16:19] <senderosc> ciao
[16:19] <jinglescafe> Cops showed up, I need to go
[16:19] <senderosc> come si fa il cancelletto?
[16:19] <bekks> pfifo: So Ubuntu supported full disc encryption already.
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: when it comes to the the "restart" bit hit <ctrl> + <alt> +<f1>     then you can chroot to the install dir and fix it that way
[16:19] <Rory> motaka2: On the Grub boot menu, select your Ubuntu option and press E to edit the parameters before booting. Scroll down and delete the words "quiet splash" then press Ctrl-X to boot
[16:19] <SASDOE> quick question: i was hoping to run a mail server on my ubuntu server, and was hoping to have a service similar to that offered by mailnull, ie having a main "domain name", and sub domains
[16:20] <Guest33550> what happened to the standalone installer where you could install and uninstall like a progarm in windows?
[16:20] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Ah ... open a new virtual term. Is there a list of the chroot commands somewhere?
[16:20] <bekks> Guest33550: It is called "synaptic" and you can install it.
[16:20] <Rory> !wubi | Guest33550
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: 2 secs
[16:20] <pfifo> now we just need zfs support and ubuntu can be accepted as a real operating system
[16:20] <SASDOE> and being able to instantly create or even receive emails directed to a nex sub domain (as in maindomain.newwebsite@test.com)
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Guest33550. wine ?
[16:20] <SASDOE> and block them if no longer needed
[16:21] <Guest99721> ye
[16:21] <bekks> pfifo: zfs support is already there.
[16:21] <wilornel> Does it really matter if Ubuntu is standalone in UEFI or Legacy mode?
[16:21] <Guest33550> Rory: Thank you!
[16:21] <pfifo> bekks: not the good stuff, you still need PPAs (unless this changed in the last 60 days)
[16:21] <Rory> Guest33550: No problem, I guessed right \o/
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: see the chroot section here: https://wiki.tenmilesout.net/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Debootstrap_Efi_Minimal_Install
[16:22] <BluesKaj> wubi ?? good luck with that , Guest33550
[16:22] <SASDOE> did anyone answer me? lost connection!
[16:22] <bekks> pfifo: zfs will never be included in the linux kernel due to its license.
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: its the lines after "Mount environment file systems."
[16:22] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Awesome
[16:23] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: I'm reading through it now. I tried something similar last time but must have missed one of the dev devices
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: obviously replace install to what ever path cd mounted your filesystem as
[16:23] <Guest33550> One more thing, will WUBI work with x64?
[16:23] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: After I setup the chroot do I have to manually edit anything for the new initramfs or if I update does the new package have it?
[16:23] <wilornel> Does it really matter if Ubuntu is standalone in UEFI or Legacy mode?
[16:24] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: I vaguely remember someone saying they add to add a module for ohci_usb
[16:24] <bekks> wilornel: Ubuntu isnt in those modes at all.
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: you need add an entry to the modules file and update initramfs ....
[16:24] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: ok cool. So add the module manually.
[16:24] <wilornel> bekks : from ubuntu's website : you can install Ubuntu in EFI mode or not.
[16:25] <bekks> wilornel: Read: "you can install Ubuntu if you computer is in EFI mode or not"
[16:25] <bekks> wilornel: The Ubuntu installation stays the same.
[16:25] <Guest33550> it automatically installs x64 or x86 depending on the architecture. Never mind
[16:25] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: ok i'm gonna try this again ... i'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again!
[16:25] <wilornel> okay
[16:25] <wilornel> but does it matter in any way?
[16:25] <bekks> wilornel: No.
[16:25] <wilornel> performancewise?
[16:26] <wilornel> ok good
[16:26] <wilornel> what pushed "someone" to create UEFI?
[16:26] <dcope> anyone using monit in here?
[16:26] <dcope> everytime i run it i get no output
[16:26] <jenielle> ok im burning the boot repair disk right now
[16:27] <Guest33550> wilornel: UEFI's been in development for a long time, at least 8 or 9 years i think
[16:28] <motaka2> Rory: it doesnt work
[16:28] <wilornel> Guest33550: Actually, I'm reading about it and it seems like Intel started working on it in 1998
[16:28] <Rory> motaka2: No, but you will see an error this time hopefully
[16:28] <wilornel> Guest33550: only thing is, I don't understand at which level does UEFI work?
[16:28] <motaka2> Rory: I dont see any errors
[16:28] <SASDOE> Rory: what email server are you running and how can i create domain names and sub domains easily ?
[16:28] <Guest33550> wilornel: UEFI is actually on the hard disk (at least on my win 8 laptop)
[16:29] <Rory> SASDOE: I'm running Postfix, and I have no idea
[16:29] <bekks> SASDOE: the email server is totally unrelated to registering domains, and setting up MX records.
[16:29] <wilornel> Guest33550: and it rules the way different parts of the computer interact with eachother?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: uefi is a replacement for BIOS.
[16:29] <Guest33550> wilornel: UEFI is like BIOS, Only it supports larger hard drive sizes (larger than 30 TB) and is more flexible
[16:29] <SASDOE> Rory: no i mean i'd have a real domain name, an account and a "sub account", as in account.sub@domain.com
[16:30] <Rory> SASDOE: Work on getting basic emails set up first
[16:30] <wilornel> BIOS is what windows has been created on top of, right?
[16:30] <SASDOE> Rory: could i easily setup something like this with postfix?
[16:30] <Guest33550> No
[16:30] <Guest33550> BIOS is Basic Input Output System
[16:30] <bekks> SASDOE: Sure.
[16:30] <Guest33550> every computer uses it
[16:30] <Guest33550> macs use UEFI However
[16:30] <SASDOE> nice
[16:30] <wilornel> oohh ok
[16:30] <SASDOE> i'll give it a try
[16:30] <Rory> SASDOE: yes I think so, you can do all sorts. Do you mean that foo.bar@domain.com will go to the same mainbox as bar@domain.com?
[16:31] <Rory> mailbox*
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: such discussion is offtopic here but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[16:31] <wilornel> ok got it got it!
[16:31] <SASDOE> Rory: yes exactly, and i could block emails to spam.bar@domain.com, or receive emails to new.bar@domain.com instantly as well
[16:31] <Rory> SASDOE: I'd assume you can. I have [anything]@domain.com going to the same mailbox and that was done with a pattern
[16:32] <Guest33550> One question about WUBI
[16:32] <Guest33550> what if it screws up BOOTMGR
[16:32] <SASDOE> Rory: cool thanks
[16:32] <bekks> Guest33550: Then you have to repair your boot manager.
[16:32] <Rory> Guest33550: which you can do with a Windows install DVD
[16:32] <Guest33550> is there a chance that will happen
[16:32] <Rory> Guest33550: Yes of course, but a small one
[16:33] <Guest33550> i havent used WUBI in like 2 yeaars
[16:33] <Guest33550> years*
[16:33] <bekks> Guest33550: Saying "no" is just a lie at that point.
[16:33] <bekks> Guest33550: Dont use Wubi.
[16:33] <Rory> Guest33550: I strongly recommend "against" using it though
[16:33] <bekks> Guest33550: Either install Ubuntu as dualboot or in a vm.
[16:33] <BluesKaj> Guest33550. why not try virtualbox
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33550: wubi is not recommended, try a virtual machine or live iso instead
[16:33] <wilornel> I put my BIOS into legacy mode and now I can't boot my live USB...
[16:34] <Guest33550> BluesKaj: Already did, tried virtualbox and vm ware
[16:34] <Guest33550> too laggy
[16:34] <SASDOE> what happended to cafeguy?
[16:34] <bekks> Guest33550: Then use a dualboot.
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: legacy mode? or legacy usb mode?
[16:34] <Guest33550> i have acutally screwed my disc drive up
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Guest33550. then the best alternative is to install ubuntu on it's own partition
[16:35] <Guest33550> i dropped the laptop with a disc running inside and it hit the side and shattered all over the drive
[16:35] <Guest33550> im waiting for a replacement
[16:35] <wilornel> well, I went into BIOS and  for Boot Mode I chose CSM Boot
[16:35] <Guest33550> will WUBI work on a win 8 laptop w/ uefi?
[16:35] <Rory> Guest33550: No
[16:35] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO
[16:35] <Rory> !wubi | Guest33550
[16:36] <Guest33550> Rory: problem with UEFI?
[16:36] <bekks> Guest33550: Wubi is not supported with Windows 8.
[16:36] <Guest33550> well this isnt windows 8 so
[16:36] <wiehan> How do I upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 - software centre / update manager is set to notify me of all new releases but it doesn't. System it fully up to date with sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade. Is there a terminal command to do this?
[16:36] <Guest33550> i cant install ubuntu via a burned cd
[16:36] <Guest33550> it goes to the install menu
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> wiehan: do-release-upgrade
[16:37] <wiehan> hitsujiTMO, sudo apt-get release-upgrade?
[16:37] <Guest33550> when i hit "install ubuntu" or "try ubuntu" it just black screens
[16:37] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: well, I went into BIOS and  for Boot Mode I chose CSM Boot
[16:37] <Guest33550> and does abosulety nothing
[16:37] <bekks> !nomodeset | Guest33550
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> wiehan: sudo do-release-upgrade      ( backup important data first)
[16:37] <wiehan> hitsujiTMO, ty
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: hmm, and how did you create the usb?
[16:38] <wilornel> there was a tool which Ubuntu referenced to
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: also is fat boot enabled?
[16:38] <wilornel> live usb creator or...
[16:38] <wilornel> hmm let mee see
[16:39] <wilornel> fast*
[16:39] <wilornel> no it's not
[16:39] <Guest33550> bekks: already did nomodeset, the disc litterally stops spinning, i left it on for 2 nights and nothing happened
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: was it http://www.linuxliveusb.com/?
[16:39] <pfifo> !enter | wilornel
[16:39] <wilornel> wait let me find it...
[16:40] <Guest33550> whats the percentage WUBI will screw up Boot manager
[16:41] <bekks> Guest33550: Did you check the md5sum of the cd after burning it?
[16:41] <Guest33550> yes
[16:41] <Guest33550> i did the md5sum multiple times
[16:41] <bekks> Guest33550: after burning it, or before it?
[16:41] <Guest33550> beofre & after
[16:41] <Guest33550> before*
[16:41] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[16:42] <bekks> Guest33550: Did you try a second cd?
[16:42] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: But I don't think that's the issue. I WAS able to boot my live USB before I formated my HDD...
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: use http://www.linuxliveusb.com/     pendrivelinux can be a bit messy
[16:42] <Guest33550> i tryed multiple CD's
[16:42] <bekks> Guest33550: And which version did you burn?
[16:42] <Guest33550> even a USB drive
[16:42] <Guest33550> no avail
[16:42] <wilornel> but wait a sec. I was able to boot my live USB before
[16:42] <Guest33550> 12.10 and the latest verzio
[16:42] <Guest33550> version*
[16:42] <bekks> Guest33550: you could try a 12.04
[16:42] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: shouldn't it work now? Or does pendrive not work properly sometimes with CSM boot?
[16:43] <Guest33550> do CD-RW's work?
[16:43] <rwc2> both mozilla software, firefox and thunderbird, yield an error in saucy : GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed - - - this or something similar is a bug on mozillas page, but any way around this until the issue is resolved?
[16:43] <bekks> Guest33550: Sure.
[16:43] <Guest33550> bekks: i used CD-R, CD-RW ,DVD-R ,DVD-RW and none of them worked
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: the way bios and uefi look for bootable devices are different.
[16:44] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: ok got it, thanks
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: this will at least rule out if the usb creator is the cause or not
[16:44] <Guest33550> bekks: not sure if this has to do with anything but i had to disable secure boot as the boot signatures were invalid for ubuntu's CD
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33550: thats not an issue for bios booting install
[16:46] <Guest33550> hitsujiTMO: its an 8 laptop w/ UEFI
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> Guest33550: wilornel is installing as bios mode tho
[16:47] <Guest33550> im gonna restart
[16:47] <Guest33550> brb
[16:48] <trism> rwc2: running firefox with: G_SLICE=always-malloc firefox; has worked for some people based on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=833117
[17:04] <pfifo> mke2fs takes a long time, is it just me or did making ext2 filesystems used to take only seconds
[17:05] <bekks> pfifo: ext2 always took ages.
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: more likely its to do with the fact that your dealing with larger HDDs that when you were dealing with ext2
[17:16] <Bellaurest> Hello
[17:17] <Bellaurest> Здарова ребята
[17:18] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Ok I got it install and got the chroot setup but my networking isn't quite working. The interface is fine (ping etc works) but DNS isn't working so I can't run apt-get. Any ideas?
[17:19] <samuelx> I tried just adding 8.8.8.8 to resolve.conf but it didn't do anything
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: resolv.conf gets regenerated everytime networking is restarted. try add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" (without quotes ofc) to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and restart networking then
[17:21] <rwc2> trism, how should the command look exactly?
[17:21] <pytess> hi.I am using ubuntu
[17:21] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Ok ... trying it now
[17:21] <pytess> started recently
[17:22] <pytess> i first used windowd8.made it dualboot.later i tried installing ubuntu once more.then  I guess windows 8 partion is gone
[17:22] <MrDyne> How would I make a script or program run at bootup under a particular user account without having to login to anything?
[17:23] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: if you delete the symlink /etc/resolv.conf and replace it with a normal file, it wont get overwritten on restarts
[17:23] <pytess> is it possible to acess any datas in other drive
[17:23] <MrDyne> Like LAMP, it runs under www-data user and auto starts on boot.
[17:24] <bekks> pytess: If your Windows is gone, you cannot access it anymore. If you just have another disk, you can access the other disk.
[17:24] <bekks> pfifo: the more easy way is to configure nm correctly.
[17:24] <trism> rwc2: G_SLICE=always-malloc firefox
[17:24] <rwc2> trism, k, ill have to try something else
[17:25] <pfifo> bekks: i dont agree, removing dnsmasq is exponetially harder then deleting a symlink
[17:25] <trism> rwc2: does firefox and thunderbird still start and work? if so you can ignore that error, we all get it
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> MrDyne: call the app with: sudo -u <username|id>         or su -c <command> <user>
[17:26] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Maybe a dumb question but should I do that edit on the live system or the chroot? Same question for restarting networking
[17:26] <trism> rwc2: the problem is some people have firefox immediately crash on starting
[17:26] <rwc2> trism, firefox doesn't start, no splash screen even
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: ahh, you're still on the live system. what are you needing apt-get for?
[17:27] <rwc2> trism, the thunderbird screen asking for sudo password appeared once, but nothing since
[17:27] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Don't I need to run apt-get to update the system?
[17:28] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: So that I can add the ohci_usb module and fix the initramfs (so cyprtsetup works at boot)
[17:28] <pytess> ok.bekks.I had installed windows on my c drive
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: you don't need to update the system. 2 secs and i'll find the exact commands
[17:28] <pytess> but i coudl not  access d dvrive from uuntu
[17:28] <pytess> :(
[17:29] <pytess> so all the data is gone:(
[17:29] <pytess> bekks:
[17:29] <pfifo> pytess: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[17:30] <pytess> ok
[17:31] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: So just add "ohci_usb" to "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" and then " update-initramfs -u"?
[17:31] <bekks> pytess: Did you even try to mount it manually?
[17:31] <pytess> https://gist.github.com/Tessie/7617516
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: its ohci_pci
[17:32] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: :D
[17:32] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: So that's it?
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: yup that should be it
[17:32] <bekks> pytess: you have a 500G disk and a 4G usb stick?
[17:32] <pytess> yea
[17:33] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: ok fingers crossed .... trying it out now
[17:33] <pfifo> pytess: run 'sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt' and see if your data is in /mnt
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> samuelx: let me know if theres any errors with: update-initramfs -u
[17:33] <pfifo> pytess: disregard that
[17:33] <xBytez> Wut
[17:33] <xBytez> Ubuntu Cola? :P
[17:33] <xBytez> https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1424544_1390728294504748_1783790479_n.jpg
[17:33] <xBytez> and 69p?!
[17:33] <xBytez> 69?!
[17:33] <pfifo> pytess: according to this you deleted everything related to windows
[17:33] <FloodBot1> xBytez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Ok update-initramfs worked fine. Rebooting now ...
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> cool
[17:35] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Worked!
[17:35] <MrDyne> how do you open a terminal window under another user account?
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | samuelx
[17:35] <samuelx> hitsujiTMO: Thanks a ton! Finally got the setup I want with a fully encrypted LUKS root.
[17:35] <trism> rwc2: you might try starting firefox on a different user with a fresh profile, see if something is messed up with your config
[17:35] <pytess> pfifo:I am getting speciy the file system type
[17:35] <MrDyne> correction, as another user
[17:36] <pfifo> pytess: its swap space, not a filesystem. you cant mount it
[17:36] <pfifo> pytess: you deleted you windows install and all related windows partitions, and alog with that, the data that was on the partitions
[17:36] <rwc2> trism, might try that
[17:38] <pytess> it says.getting output /dev/sda5 looks like swapspace not mounted.what does that mean actually
[17:38] <pfifo> pytess: swap space is like a page file in windows
[17:38] <bekks> pytess: that sda5 isnt swapspace.
[17:38] <MrDyne> nvm figured it out, su - *user*
[17:38] <bekks> pytess: And you cannot mount swap.
[17:39] <pytess> so.what shld i do now.?I had 2 partions c and d drive,now it seesm I have deleted data in both partitions.I am quite new to linux
[17:40] <pfifo> pytess: if you made backups you can restore from backup, otherwise start working on a new collection of data
[17:42] <pytess> ok.may sound dump question.previosly while i  dualbooted ubuntu.I could see one drive in mydevices .But now in ubuntu desktop in device.I do not find any drives
[17:42] <pfifo> pytess: you only have one drive, and it is /
[17:43] <chsados> Anyone familiar with GPA I am having some issues - I get this error whenever I open up GPA http://i.imgur.com/xJmw2oF.png  I am on Ubuntu v12.10
[17:43] <MarcoFe> hello
[17:43] <chsados> Ubuntu 13.10 *
[17:44] <pytess> oh.k.if so then  I am using the full capacity of ram and diskdrive.
[17:44] <s_faraday> hi guys
[17:44] <bekks> pytess: yes, you are.
[17:44] <MarcoFe> i've had this message when plug rs232tousb converter: device descriptor read/8, error -32. Could anyone help me?tnx
[17:44] <s_faraday> I have Fujitsu AH-530 Laptop and ubuntu 12.10 on it
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> pytess  open a terminal, that's a command prompt... then type    lsblk    to see how it's done in ubuntu
[17:44] <s_faraday> my USB ports work sooooooooooo slowly
[17:44] <pfifo> pytess: yes, have a look at the output of 'df -h' to see whats going on
[17:44] <MrDyne> how do you lock up a limited user account so it can only see, edit, make, files in it's home directory only?
[17:45] <s_faraday> Is there need for install any driver for USB 2 Ports? 				
[17:45] <skinkitten> there is no emacs 24 for ubuntu?
[17:45] <bekks> MarcoFe: It isnt detected correctly. Either the device is broken, the cabling is broken or the driver is broken.
[17:45] <bekks> s_faraday: no.
[17:45] <rwc2> trism, no, i dont think thats it
[17:45] <jhutchins_wk> chsados: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> MrDyne  only for actions outside /home, you need sudo
[17:45] <pfifo> !info emacs24 | skinkitten
[17:45] <s_faraday> bekks: so what's my problem u think?
[17:46] <bekks> s_faraday: I didnt read the backlog.
[17:46] <bekks> s_faraday: And from my point of view, even USB2 is very slow.
[17:46] <pytess> oh.k.http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464749/.what does this mean
[17:46] <MrDyne> yes but the limit user can still cd and browse the system file structure
[17:46] <jhutchins_wk> s_faraday: USB is slow.
[17:47] <skinkitten> pfifo, how do I sudo get that?
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> MrDyne: it needs read permissions to be able to run anything
[17:47] <skinkitten> pfifo, I installed emacs but it installed 23 instead of the lastest
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> MrDyne  you mean the Guest account?
[17:48] <pfifo> skinkitten: 'sudo apt-get purge emacs' 'sudo apt-get install emacs24'
[17:48] <skinkitten> sudo apt-get update doesn't do that?
[17:48] <MrDyne> no, i'm trying to make a very limited account to lock up game servers so it they are hacked or exploited they are still locked in a cage and can't do any harm other then reck the map/ game player data
[17:48] <s_faraday> bekks: jhutchins_wk it doesn't slow for my friend's laptops
[17:48] <s_faraday> sure it's not about ubuntu?
[17:49] <skinkitten> sudo apt-get update doesn't do that? pfifo
[17:49] <pfifo> skinkitten: there is like a dozen different versions of emacs in the repos, 23 is the default if you want 24 you have to tell it you want 24
[17:49] <pfifo> skinkitten: update will update the version you installed
[17:49] <bekks> s_faraday: ubuntu is working fine with usb1, usb2, usb3 for me.
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> MrDyne: for instance: if a user account does not have access to /usr then it cannot run any application in there, if it does not have access to /etc then it can't even log in ( somes files in /etc are executed on login )
[17:49] <bekks> s_faraday: Did you check the manual wether the port used is a usb1 port in fact?
[17:50] <MrDyne> Ok
[17:50] <gordonjcp> MrDyne: you may want to look into chroot environments
[17:50] <pfifo> skinkitten: and you thinking apt-get upgrade, apt-get update dose something completly different
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  chroot came to my mind too
[17:50] <pfifo> brb
[17:50] <skinkitten> pfifo, 'sudo apt-get install emacs24' is not found
[17:51] <s_faraday> bekks: yes it's USB 2 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Fujitsu-Lifebook-AH530-Notebook.40469.0.html
[17:51] <s_faraday> and it's not about nautilus?
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> skinkitten: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install emacs24
[17:53] <zykotick9> chsados: i'd be careful using GPA... (mind you, i possibly tried with an older version then you have access to in ubuntu) BUT i tried it a little while ago, and couldn't find option to use SHA2 (which is a bit of a problem).  In regard to your actual issue, i have no idea.  best of luck.
[17:53] <pytess> how to create a seperate partiion in ubuntu
[17:54] <chsados> zykotick9: do you have a suggestion on an alternative to GPA?
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> pytess: use gparted is the easiest way, preferably from a live distro
[17:54] <zykotick9> chsados: for gui = no.  i'd suggest using the gpg terminal apps... YMMV
[17:55] <chsados> ehhh i dont feel comfortable with terminal yet for gpg :(
[17:55] <pytess> ok
[17:55] <zykotick9> chsados: don't fear the terminal ;)
[17:56] <chsados> just seems like GPG in terminal requires too many commands - id prefer a nice GUI similar to kleopatra when I was on windows - made things really easy
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> chsados: i thought gpg in terminal is like... 1 command?
[17:56] <zykotick9> chsados: "i hear ya" well, best of luck.
[17:57] <chsados> hitsujiTMO: not really no
[17:57] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: I tried linux live usb creator, the results are the same, I cannot boot through the live USB.
[17:57] <Guest33553> hello
[17:58] <Guest33553> i am from colombia
[17:58] <Guest33553> my english is so so
[17:58] <Guest33553> http://pastebin.com/xfAfBiNu
[17:58] <Guest33553> software-center no funcina
[17:58] <pfifo> skinkitten: whats the output of 'lsb_release -cs'
[17:59] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO:
[17:59] <skinkitten> in the terminal? pfifo
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: in that case, try toggling your the current value of "legacy usb support" in the bios.
[18:00] <pfifo> skinkitten: yes
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: thats an option that can cause some issues depending on manufacturer
[18:01] <skinkitten> pfifo, precise
[18:01] <MrDyne> does the command startx need sudo to work. I get a black screen if I use my normal account at boot login
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> MrDyne: no
[18:01] <pfifo> !info emacs24 precise | skinkitten
[18:01] <Rory> Guest33553: Can you run it as a user other than root
[18:01] <zykotick9> MrDyne: on ubuntu, startx doesn't do much by default.  why are to trying to use it?
[18:01] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: Alright, so you're saying that instead of booting in legacy mode, I should boot in UEFI?
[18:02] <pfifo> skinkitten: there you have it, you can upgrade to saucy
[18:02] <MrDyne> because I disabled gui start at boot because when I finish setting up my server again it will be headless.
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: no. legacy usb supprt is a different option
[18:02] <wilronel> I have UEFI boot or CSM boot
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> MrDyne: do you have a DE installed?
[18:03] <MrDyne> I'm using Xubuntu so Xfce
[18:03] <skinkitten> pfifo, upgrade to saucy? whats that? and how?
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: its a different option in a different menu
[18:03] <Rory> Guest33553: Can you run the commands specified in this AskUbuntu answer: http://askubuntu.com/a/337154/62969
[18:03] <wilronel> With UEFI, I can boot the live usb alright. With CSM boot, I cannot boot the live USB. I do not want to use UEFI, as Ubuntu fails to install in UEFI mode
[18:03] <wilronel> So I shall select booting in CSM mode, right?
[18:04] <pfifo> skinkitten: download the Ubuntu 13.10 CD annd burn it to a cd-r then boot from it and install Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander
[18:04] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: Are you talking about the Usb legacy emulation?
[18:04] <skinkitten> why? pfifo
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: usually under "advanced" or "chipset settings" or the like.                 how exactly is ubuntu failing to install in uefi mode?
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: yes. that would be it
[18:04] <pfifo> skinkitten: saucy has emacs24
[18:05] <wilronel> so do you want me to enable it or to disable it?
[18:05] <skinkitten> I just installed emacs24 though pfifo
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: i want you to toggle it.
[18:05] <wilronel> okay so it was enabled. I'm disabling it
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: cool. try booting the usb now
[18:05] <wilronel> Still cannot boot through the live USB
[18:05] <zykotick9> MrDyne: if you still have a DM installed, i'd suggest starting it like "sudo service lightdm start" type thing... replace lightdm if you're using something else...
[18:06] <pfifo> skinkitten: you just said 17:50 < skinkitten> pfifo, 'sudo apt-get install emacs24' is not found
[18:06] <zykotick9> !info emacs24
[18:06] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO:
[18:07] <skinkitten> pfifo, oh I was lucky to be directed to https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: this is quite peculiar. that exausts my guesses at what could be the cause of the failed boots in bios mode.
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: whats the exact issue in uefi mode?
[18:07] <pfifo> skinkitten: ok that works too, but keep in mind PPAs are unsupported software
[18:07] <wilronel> "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed to install"
[18:07] <wilronel> I don't even want to go down that path anymore... it's pretty annoying..
[18:08] <paul_> hey all
[18:08] <winb> hi
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: you can manually install grub too.
[18:08] <paul_> ubuntu newbie here, i'm trying to run a script, but for some reason it just opens it in gedit
[18:08] <paul_> any idea why?
[18:08] <skinkitten> ok thanks
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: it involves chrooting after that point
[18:09] <MajSlayer> got a quick new linux user question, is it a bad idea to install Apache, MySQL ect. as root? should I create a second user to install these programs?
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> paul_ you need to set it as executable most likely
[18:09] <sacrelicious> hitsujiTMO, how do i do that?
[18:09] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: okay so I have only installed GNU/Linux (or is it GNE/Linux?), and then it fails to install grub-efi-amd64-signed. I have to boot and use boot-repair, right? Then I can re-install Ubuntu?
[18:09] <zykotick9> MajSlayer: they'll start as root, then quickly change to a different user...
[18:09] <bekks> MajSlayer: You cannot install those packages from the Ubuntu repos without root privileges. "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[18:09] <pfifo> MajSlayer: you have to install this stuff with the package manager, which requires root privdleges, so no
[18:10] <MrDyne> sudo service lightdm start worked, thanks!
[18:10] <zykotick9> MajSlayer: sorry, you said "install", ya see beeks pfifo above ;)
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: what version of ubuntu is this btw?
[18:10] <wilronel> 12.04 LTS
[18:10] <wilronel> and I wanted to keep it this way, too.
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: is windows on the machine?
[18:11] <wilronel> I tried installing Ubuntu standalone, so it reformated the disk. so no, Windows is not on the machine, I can't boot anything right now.
[18:12] <MajSlayer> well i'm on a dedicated server, i didnt have to sudo anything...
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: cool. can you boot the live cd so in uefi mode
[18:12] <wilronel> I can't install Ubuntu in Legacy mode?
[18:12] <wilronel> I don't WANT uefi, it won't install
[18:12] <MajSlayer> and where is this beek pfifo? i dont see the link
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: i'm unsure if you can, BUT, since ubuntu is for the most part is installed already we can try finishing the installation manually
[18:13] <wilronel> no, it is not installed for the most part. Only GNU/Linux is.
[18:13] <pfifo> MajSlayer: ubuntu isnt designed to be run as root, but most ISPs ignore that, you can still run commands with sudo, but since your already root, it is optional
[18:14] <zykotick9> pfifo: DON'T use sudo, if you are #
[18:14] <MajSlayer> well the problem i'm having is .php software doesn't want to allow file movements because root owns all the folders
[18:14] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO:
[18:15] <pfifo> zykotick9: DONT tell me not todo something with out giving an explanation
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: wait, slightly confused here, when you say gnu/linux what are you reffering to exactly?
[18:15] <zykotick9> pfifo: if you are root already, using sudo is redundant (might lead to issues as well)
[18:15] <tgm4883> why are WE putting random WORDS in all caps?
[18:15] <pfifo> !chown | MajSlayer
[18:15] <wilronel> I am refering to what Ubuntu trial displays when I try to install Ubuntu
[18:16] <MajSlayer> aye well its like 40,000 files
[18:16] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: If I re-try to install Ubuntu, it will ask if I want to replace GNU/Linux or install it next to GNU/Linux.
[18:17] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: Before trying to install Ubuntu, "Windows 8" was standing where "GNU/Linux" is at the moment
[18:17] <pfifo> MajSlayer: there is a -R switch to make recursive changes
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: ah ok.
[18:17] <cejixo3> hello guys
[18:17] <cejixo3> xen pci passtrough ???
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: the thing is, grub is the last thing to get installed during the installation, so you can just manually install it and you should be good to go
[18:18] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: Depends when. Sometimes grub installs after 3 minutes, sometimes after 30mins into the installation process
[18:18] <MajSlayer> okay let me read about it, like i said i'm new, and never made a second user on this server. so i'm half way thinking i should do a full reinstall on it, create a second user
[18:18] <zykotick9> cejixo3: i'd suggest using alis (/msg ubottu alis for details) to find a xen channel.  that's VERY specialized support question.
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: no grub is always last
[18:19] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: well... not it's happening after 3 mins
[18:19] <cejixo3> thanks
[18:19] <MajSlayer> seems root owns everything, and the only way to fix the problems is to set every to 777
[18:19] <wilronel> now it's happening after 3 mins*
[18:19] <MajSlayer> and i know thats a bad idea.lol
[18:19] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: let me double-check.
[18:20] <pfifo> MajSlayer: i would go with something like 'chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www'
[18:20] <MajSlayer> thanks man
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: it only takes a few minutes to install ubuntu. just boot the live in uefi mode and we can have a look
[18:20] <MajSlayer> that is the main area i'm having problems with i'll give it a go
[18:20] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: it takes about 30 minutes, right?
[18:21] <MajSlayer> i'll ssh into the server now and give it a try
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: wha? no. i've never seen an ubuntu install take longer than 10 mins
[18:21] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: wow.
[18:21] <suyash1629> hi everyone, today i m not able to boot ubuntu, everytime i boot i get errer something like this: could not write bytes: Broken pipe. Can anyone please help me..
[18:22] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: Well I had many times where after about 10 minutes, it would fail because of grub. and once it failed for the same reason but after 40mins..
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: unless maybe its a full install from the mini.iso
[18:22] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: no, I'm not using any mini.iso
[18:22] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: okay, apparently you are right. I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed right now
[18:22] <wilronel> so, how do I fix it?
[18:23] <wilronel> hitsujiTMO: boot-repaid?
[18:23] <wilronel> repair*
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> wilronel: boot to the live cd and install an irc client there. will make things easier
[18:25] <suyash1629> hi everyone, today i m not able to boot ubuntu(12.04), everytime i boot i get errer something like this: could not write bytes: Broken pipe. Can anyone please help me..
[18:26] <MajSlayer> pfifo - thanks allot, you just saved my buns, and a near heart attack
[18:26] <MajSlayer> everything working fine now it seems
[18:27] <MajSlayer> no more cant transfer files from here to here problems:)
[18:27] <DGJones> logout
[18:28] <Agwatic> my laptop wireless card is keeping refreshing and I don't know why
[18:28] <MajSlayer> anyhow really thanks, I'm putting this in my install notes just incase I have to do a full reinstall one day. plus good to take notes:)
[18:28] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, hey
[18:28] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, im on the live usb ubuntu
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: ok, first thing i need you to do is install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:29] <veryhappy> Hi guys, i installed a program in an earlier ubuntu install, but now i cant install this program anymore in the new install, what can i do about it?
[18:29] <wilornel> done
[18:30] <zykotick9> veryhappy: what program?  any other details? would probably help the channel...
[18:30] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, done
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: nexk can you run: lsblk | pastebinit
[18:31] <suyash1629> anyone please help, everytime i boot into wubi installation of ubuntu 12.04 i get error like "could not write bytes: Broken pipe". i was setting up android build environment and just after installing some dependencies i got this error while booting and i m unable to buut into ubuntu
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: just paste the link here
[18:31] <veryhappy> wilornel: was first checking if anyone responses, in another channels one waits for years for an answer. the program that i used is srware iron (a chrome like browser) installed it in the .deb format, but now its not really installing anymore like it should.
[18:31] <wilornel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464949/
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> suyash1629: Sorry, there doesn't appear to be any wubi users on this weekend.
[18:32] <wilornel> veryhappy, what?
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> suyash1629: Why not do a standard partitioned install?
[18:32] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, ^
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: ok. can you now run: sudo apt-get install gdisk && sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit
[18:33] <GnubLinux> Veryhappy - See here: http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6913
[18:33] <jhutchins_wk> veryhappy: If it's not built specifically for the release of Ubuntu you're running it won't install.  You're not telling us what the errors are though, for all we know your disk is full.
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: i just need to verify what's what
[18:33] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, what is that thing?
[18:33] <wilornel> and what does -l specify?
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: -l   = list
[18:34] <wilornel> okay
[18:34] <wilornel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464966/
[18:34] <suyash1629> jhutchins_wk: i tried to do that but i m trying to install that on my hp laptop, and i m not able to load any bootable disks or usb drives to make standard installation, any help on making standard installation?
[18:34] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, ^
[18:35] <MrDyne> Is there an easier way to install and Java JRE 7 and keep it update? I hate having to download it an manually install it and do whatever those install guides say to do.
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: hmm seems /dev/sda2 is marked as a windows partition. weird
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> suyash1629: Hm, no, there have been ways to do a standard install from Windows, but I don't know if they're current.
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: ok. try this: mkdir install
[18:36] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, well, that Ubuntu installation was installed in UEFI mode, right? So I guess that's why
[18:36] <wilornel> done
[18:36] <veryhappy> jhutchins_wk: if you dont know my system you better dont tell me my disk is full, btw: the program WAS the heck installed on my ubuntu system if you could read you would have read it.
[18:37] <suyash1629> jhutchins_wk: can you please give me some ways to do that, some hints..
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: sudo mount /dev/sda2 install
[18:37] <veryhappy> i'm coming back later perhaps
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: sudo mount /dev/sda1 install/boot/efi
[18:37] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, done
[18:38] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, done
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: now these 4 commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464985/
[18:39] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, done
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: now: sudo chroot install
[18:40] <richard305> anyone got an idea as to why modprobe might not be able to find the module nvidia? I'm pretty sure i have it installed
[18:40] <wilornel>  failed to run command `/bin/bash': Input/output error
[18:40] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, ^
[18:40] <wilornel> it WAS run using sudo
[18:40] <Rory> richard305: "pretty sure" how did you install it?
[18:41] <amar_> how to clear the  recent files..
[18:41] <richard305> by installing nvidia-319 and associated packages through synaptic
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel:  interesting. can you pastebin the output of: mount
[18:41] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6464999/
[18:41] <Rory> a_muva_: I googled "Ubuntu clear recent files" and found that you can use the Privacy application which is included as standard
[18:42] <suyash1629> jhutchins_wk: can you please give me some ways to do that, some hints..
[18:42] <richard305> whoops, forgot to address my comment Rory: by installing nvidia-319 and associated oackages through synaptic
[18:43] <Rory> richard305: Have you rebooted since doing that?
[18:43] <richard305> Rory: multiple times
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: can you humour me and once again try: sudo chroot install
[18:43] <Rory> richard305: Can you install the "nvidia-current" package?
[18:44] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, same thing.
[18:44] <richard305> Rory: sure, i can give that a shot. i'll reinstall bumblebee while i'm at it
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: hmm, i think your issue stems from the wrong partition id for /dev/sda2       but this error is a bit odd.
[18:45] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, can't we just format everything??
[18:45] <ensonic> hi, doing my first steps, setting up a PPA to have some more recent gstreamer for my app for 12.04 (need them for drone.io). I copied the packages from a different PPA where the are build for newer ubuntu, in my PPA the started to build, but the hang at the tests
[18:45] <ensonic> any tips?
[18:46] <ensonic> mine: https://launchpad.net/~ensonic/+archive/buzztrax/+build/5256613
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: we can. sudo swapoff /dev/sda3
[18:46] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, just like that?
[18:46] <ensonic> the one I cloned from: https://launchpad.net/~santoscadenas/+archive/gstreamer1.2/+build/5160675
[18:46] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, but that won't affect /dev/sda2...
[18:47] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, the command ran without problems...
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: thats to turn off the swap drive so that it will allow you to make changes
[18:47] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, done
[18:47] <richard305> Rory: brb going to reboot
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: next: sudo mount -a
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: sudo umount -a
[18:48] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, last one only?
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: yup last one
[18:48] <amar_> how to clear the recent files ..can anyone give the command...thanks..!
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: then: mount | pastebinit
[18:48] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, devices are busy..
[18:48] <wilornel> I can't umount, devices are busy
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: ok. we can manually destroy the gpt table
[18:49] <Rory> a_muva_: I googled "Ubuntu clear recent files" and found that you can use the Privacy application which is included as standard
[18:50] <Kurvivor> Hello! i am currently in a process of making friends of my Ubuntu PC and windows laptop. I have shared printer between them, and a folder (using samba)
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1048576 count=1
[18:50] <Kurvivor> i can write to that folder drom windows
[18:50] <Kurvivor> but on linux, for some reason, i can only read from there
[18:50] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO, done
[18:51] <Kurvivor> how do i check permissions on the folder and allow myself to write/delete in it?
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: can you reboot and try the installer again
[18:51] <wilornel> sure.
[18:51] <wilornel> see ya later
[18:52] <richard305> Rory: okay back -- modprobe is still saying nvidia isn't found
[18:55] <zykotick9> Kurvivor: fyi, this is obviously fat/ntfs - SO, it's ALL determined by how it gets mounted!  you can't apply the typical *nix (POSIX really) permissions to either fat or ntfs, so the regular tools in ubuntu aren't going to be able to help.  check on how the drive is being mounted.  sorry i don't use either of those filesystems (ok, sometimes fat32 on removable media) so i don't know the details.  good luck.
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: can you pastebin the output of: mount             while the share is mounted ofc
[18:58] <Kurvivor> zykotick9: i doubt it a little; folder is shared on ubuntu, and i simply created it in filesystem
[18:58] <Rory> richard305: Can you pastebin the output of sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf
[18:58] <Rory> !paste | richard305
[18:58] <Kurvivor> zykotick9: no mounting was involved (unless samba does it behind the scenes)
[18:58] <richard305> Rory: alright. one sec.
[18:59] <Rory> richard305: That is assuming you are on a 64-bit system, are you?
[19:00] <zykotick9> Kurvivor: samba is certainly something else i don't know anything about ;)  sorry if it wasn't fat/ntfs issue (i doubt you can apply POSIX permissions with SAMBA as well, but maybe).  best of luck!
[19:00] <richard305> yep
[19:00] <richard305> Rory: yep
[19:00] <Kurvivor> hzykotick9: here is the output ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6465065/
[19:00] <Kurvivor> well, first h got chewed off
[19:00] <richard305> Rory: http://pastebin.com/p5Ufwqd5
[19:01] <Rory> richard305: OK run that command, then enter the selection number 0 and press Enter
[19:01] <richard305> Rory: now bear in mind that all i'm really trying to do is get bumblebee to work
[19:01] <Rory> richard305: In mind
[19:01] <richard305> Rory: done -- should i modprobe nvidia now?
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: that was me who asked for that: seems the samba share isn't mounted there. is this from the samba server or the client?
[19:02] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: did you see link above from Kurvivor?  i hope you know fuse ;)  BTW your help for wilornel was IMPRESSIVE
[19:02] <pfifo> Kurvivor: are the files hosted on the windows or the linux box?
[19:02] <Rory> richard305: You should reboot, and then it should load automatically
[19:03] <richard305> Rory: okay thanks. back shorty
[19:03] <JordanJ2> Hello. I'm having the same problem as I had before Ubuntu (12.04 and 13.10) will only boot in UEFI mode and not Legacy
[19:04] <JordanJ2> I am trying to install via USB drive in Legacy mode but I get a black screen that reads "SYLINUX 4.02..."
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: its just just a bunch of problems i've seen over and over again. although how his ubuntu install partition got marked as a windows partition is a bit bizarre
[19:05] <Kurvivor> pfifo: files are hosted on linux box
[19:05] <JordanJ2> I know it copied some efi files from the USB not sure if that has anything to do with it
[19:05] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: from server
[19:05] <pfifo> Kurvivor: and what type of filesystem are they on?
[19:06] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: i use gpt for pretty much everything, but i don't have any uefi hardware - so that's all new to me.  i was impressed anyways ;)
[19:06] <free-spirit> could anyone help with play on linux ? easy question but i can't find answer :) how to install new programm into different location/drive ?
[19:07] <JordanJ2> I was hoping that someone here would know
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: how exactly did you create the usb?
[19:09] <JordanJ2> UnetBootin
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: so if i understand correctly then, on the server you can only read from the folder?
[19:13] <chrisdone> is there a way to set the shell that gnome-terminal starts with (as opposed to using chsh)?
[19:15] <chrisdone> ah, found it!
[19:15] <JordanJ2> I seemed to of done everything it just won't boot :/
[19:15] <richard305> Rory: this is a problem. I've had to switch computers because now my GUI won't load
[19:15] <FrancisH> hey guys, is it possible to get a paper copy of the ubuntu server guide mailed to me?
[19:16] <Rory> !nomodeset | richard305
[19:16] <richard305> Rory: how do I modify it though, if i can't login?
[19:17] <Rory> richard305: How far do you get in the boot process?
[19:17] <Rory> richard305: Do you see the grub menu?
[19:17] <richard305> Rory: to the login screen, then when i put in my password it goes to black
[19:17] <Rory> richard305: Oh not nomodeset then
[19:17] <Rory> richard305: Can you switch to another terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F2
[19:18] <richard305> hm. let me try.
[19:18] <richard305> Rory: hm. let me try.
[19:18] <free-spirit> Could anyone help with a little question about play on linux ? I want to install new programm in a new directory (not regular pol directary) how i can choose a new one ?
[19:18] <Rory> richard305: And then run the command: sudo chown richard: /home/richard/.Xauthority
[19:18] <Rory> richard305: Assuming your username is richard
[19:19] <richard305> Rory: yes it's given me login / password there, and i'm in
[19:19] <Rory> richard305: And don't forget that colon (:) after the username it's important
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> richard305: did you run startx with sudo?
[19:19] <richard305> Rory: not yet, hold on
[19:20] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: OR any gui program with sudo - thus gksudo ;)
[19:20] <FrancisH> hey guys, is it possible to get a paper copy of the ubuntu server guide mailed to me?
[19:20] <richard305> Rory: done
[19:21] <Kurvivor> hitsujiTMO: yes, that's exactly the situation
[19:21] <Rory> FrancisH: There's a pdf version of it here https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/serverguide.pdf
[19:21] <richard305> Rory: now run startx?
[19:21] <Rory> FrancisH: There are many online services which will print things and send them to you
[19:21] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: It worked! :) Thanks!
[19:22] <Rory> richard305: Now run "sudo service lightdm restart"
[19:22] <MrDyne> How do I have a command run on boot of computer, "su - server sh /Team_Speak/teamspeak3-server_linux-amd64/ts3server_startscript.sh start"
[19:22] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: there is one issue though. What does "broken pipe" mean?
[19:22] <richard305> Rory: and try to login?
[19:22] <zykotick9> !cookie | hitsujiTMO
[19:22] <Rory> MrDyne: Put it in /etc/rc.local with the & character at the end
[19:22] <Rory> richard305: Yes
[19:22] <MrDyne> will the command run as if it was root? else it will require a password to get into user server.
[19:23] <richard305> Rory: no dice. also now the fan is super loud for some reason
[19:23]  * wilornel hands hitsujiTMO a cookie
[19:23] <richard305> Rory: going to restart again
[19:23] <Rory> richard305: What do you see after you log in, is it completely black? Do you get a cursor? or do you see your wallpaper?
[19:23] <FrancisH> Rory: thanks!
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: thats dependent on what exactly the full error is
[19:23] <Rory> MrDyne: That command will run as root, yes
[19:24] <sddhrthrt> :w
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> Kurvivor: ok. can you: ls -ld /path/to/samba/directory
[19:24] <richard305> Rory: shit.
[19:24] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: I don't remember exaclty. It happens during boot...
[19:24] <richard305> Rory: it won't turn on.\
[19:25] <richard305> Rory: at all.
[19:26] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: what could it mean?
[19:26] <Rory> richard305: Your entire PC won't turn on at all?
[19:27] <richard305> Rory: at all. totally dead.\
[19:27] <pfifo> is it plugged in?
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: i've seen that on 12.04 server on virtual machines. if its the exact same error (reffering to sda) then it can be safely ignored
[19:27] <Rory> richard305: Installing the nvidia driver won't do that, it is something else unrelated
[19:27] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: well, I mean, it only appears for a fraction of a second...
[19:27] <jhutchins> richard305: Sounds like it was in the process of failing.  Video driver was just a coincidence.
[19:28] <richard305> Rory: okay, holding the on button for ten or fifteen seconds seems to have turned it on again
[19:28] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: ...or 2 seconds.. I don't know. But it doesn't seem like a big issue indeed :)
[19:28] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: can you again install pastebinit and we'll have a look: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[19:28] <Smilex> My sound settings seem to have broken. I've noticed that Spotify and Youtube have started bugging out, and QJackCtl is spitting out this message http://hastebin.com/mahafunojo.vhdl
[19:28] <trinque> Hi, I've got an Ubuntu docker image, trying to run a few upstart services. Two services installed via apt-get can be started via service ... start. One whose config is copied to /etc/init during the docker build cannot be started.
[19:29] <Smilex> How do I reset my sound settings?
[19:29] <richard305> Rory: i still can't login though
[19:29] <trinque> Is there some way to tell upstart to look for new config files manually?
[19:29] <richard305> can you take me through undoing the changes from before?
[19:29] <Rory> richard305: Do you have another user, or can you try to log in as the guest user?
[19:29] <Rory> richard305: No because we're almost done
[19:29] <trinque> initctl reload-configuration also seems to do nothing
[19:30] <richard305> Rory: okay, i'll try
[19:30] <Rory> richard305: But if you wanted to, you would run that update-alternatives command again, and select option 2
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> trinque: you can comment out the: start on statement if you want to stop ot from loading automatically
[19:30] <richard305> yeah what was that again, just in case?\
[19:31] <trinque> hitsujiTMO: I'm trying to get an upstart config I copied in to be recognized by upstart
[19:31] <Rory> richard305:  sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf
[19:31] <richard305> Rory: in the meantime, trying guest login -- still nothing but the cursor on the screen
[19:31] <trinque> it says no such service when I try to start it
[19:32] <richard305> Rory: I do have the cursor though
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> trinque: its named <service>.conf    and put in /etc/init right?
[19:32] <Rory> richard305: I've found some reports that the following fixes this: sudo rm /home/username/.Xauthority* && sudo apt-get install --reinstall xorg
[19:32] <richard305> Rory: I'll reboot and give it a shot
[19:33] <Rory> richard305: You can do that from ctrl-alt-f2
[19:33] <Rory> richard305: reboot after
[19:33] <richard305> Rory: okay
[19:33] <trinque> hitsujiTMO: correct
[19:33] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: I'm getting "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" I'll wait for the updates to finish, I think that's what's causing the error
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> trinque: then that would point towards a malformed config. can you pastebin it?
[19:34] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: oh and that happens when I try to install pastebinit
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: is software center opened or updatemanager?
[19:35] <wilornel> hitsuujiTMO : Yes update manager is opened
[19:35] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO:  ^
[19:35] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: I'll be back in about 30 minutes, will you still be online?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: once its closed you should be able to install it then
[19:35] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: alright
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: i should be
[19:36] <trinque> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ivYzXSEQ
[19:37] <richard305> Rory: still nothing
[19:37] <richard305> Rory: just my cursor :(
[19:37] <trinque> hitsujiTMO: the docker image I'm working from is very stripped down; I'm wondering if upstart is semi-busted in it
[19:38] <pfifo> whats plural for linux, linicies?
[19:38] <sddhrthrt> lcear
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> trinque: i doubt it, if upstart was busted it prob wouldn't load the system
[19:38] <Neurotoxin> can ubuntu one not upload files that are currently opened in another program?
[19:38] <sddhrthrt> sorry. please ignore me.
[19:38] <Rory> pfifo: It doesn't have a plural because "a linux" isn't a thing. it's a proper noun
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> richard305: can you pastebin ~/.xsession-errors
[19:39] <richard305> if it's long, it'll take a while
[19:39] <Rory> richard305: sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> richard305: install pastebinit
[19:40] <richard305> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6465269
[19:41] <MrDyne> why do rc.local commands have to end with &?
[19:42] <bekks> MrDyne: they dont.
[19:42] <Rory> bekks: no?
[19:42] <bekks> No.
[19:42] <Rory> OK I sit corrected
[19:42] <Bahman_Dool> sit on my fick
[19:42] <Bahman_Dool> *dick
[19:42] <Rory> lmao
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> trinque: that does seem to be a minimally working script. maybe try replacing the exec with some test like: exec echo "foo" >> /tmp/bar
[19:43] <Bahman_Dool> try `sudo rm -rf /`
[19:43] <Rory> !danger
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> richard305: what desktop environment is installed?
[19:46] <Bahman_Dool> hitsujiTMO, it's none of your business
[19:46] <richard305> Rory: whatever the default one is with 13.10
[19:46] <MrDyne> That command, Lol, it's like a press Alt + F4 for "game settings" joke but on your entire hard drive in Linux.
[19:47] <IdleOne> MrDyne: there is nothing funny about destroying someones system.
[19:47] <DuncanNZ> thankyou IdleOne, but how did you do that? :)
[19:47] <IamTrying> Get:11 http://be.archive.ubuntu.com precise/main amd64 Packages [1,273 kB] where is this package please ? resiprocate-turn-server
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> richard305: in X, does <ctrl> + <alt> + T   bring up a console?
[19:49] <user82> is there a "kill" combo in unity, that shows the crosshair to kill apps?
[19:49] <bekks> user82: xkill
[19:49] <user82> bekks, thanks
[19:50] <richard305> Rory: in X? sorry i'm still not that good at all this
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> richard305: as in in the graphical environment( where you just see the cursor )
[19:50] <richard305> Rory: when i'm logged in normally, yes, ctrl alt T brings up terminal. let me try to login to the blank screen again and see
[19:51] <user82> bekks, if i assign it to a keyboard shortcut it does not work.. in the terminal it does
[19:51] <user82> any idea why?
[19:52] <IamTrying> resiprocate-turn-server   - where to get this package please?
[19:52] <bekks> user82: I am not using shortcuts, sorry.
[19:52] <user82> okay
[19:52] <IamTrying> precise i dont find it
[19:52] <richard305> Rory: nope, ctrl+alt+T doesn't bring up anything
[19:53] <MrDyne> were  do I look up logs to debug the commands I put in rc.local?
[19:53] <MrDyne> I made it excutable chmod +x so it should have worked
[19:53] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6465327/
[19:53] <hitsujiTMO> richard305: maybe reinstall unity then: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity
[19:54] <flux242> installer asks me if I want to include all drivers into the initrd or only targeted. What's the difference? What does 'all drivers' mean in this context?
[19:54] <richard305> Rory: will do
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: did you reboot?
[19:54] <user82> bekks, apparently loggin out and back in sets the shortcuts.
[19:55] <user82> easy solution, if you know it
[19:55] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: after what, exactly?
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: since you got the error?
[19:55] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: No, I did not. I also did not reboot after my updates
[19:56] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: the error displays during boot. It's just a small text that flashes for 2seconds
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> wilornel: hmm, strange not seeing the error in the log then. i doubt its anything important then
[19:57] <richard305> Rory: reinstalled unity, rebooted, still nothing
[19:57] <wilornel> hitsujiTMO: alright, then. Thanks a lot! :)
[19:57] <richard305> Rory: think i might see if undoing the update-alternatives at least gives me my basic functionality back...
[19:58] <richard305> Rory: unless you think this thread might have something to do with it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/1217757
[19:58] <Lubenso> hello dudes
[20:00] <richard305> Rory: how do i check if I'm running at-spi2-core - 2.9.90-0ubuntu2?
[20:00] <kiwi_> hi ... is 'localepurge' still the default app for kicking unwanted language support, or are there alternatives?
[20:02] <fixmypc956> how can I check to see if I have 2 /home directories cause i think I do
[20:03] <pfifo> fixmypc956: like I mentioned last night, you might want to tweak that line I gave you to add to fstab
[20:05] <edwin__> #ruby_on_rails
[20:05] <IamTrying> resiprocate-turn-server   - where to get this package please?
[20:05] <IamTrying> using precise
[20:05] <bng> hi all, when creating LVM my system reports several messages like this: "read failed after 0 of 4096 at 123456789"
[20:06] <bng> I suppose these are bad sectors, is there any way to avoid those sectors when creating a new partition, plese?
[20:06] <pfifo> !info resiprocate-turn-server precise
[20:07] <pfifo> IamTrying: dosent look like there is a version for precise in the repos, you can search launchpad.net for a PPA
[20:07] <NEone> Hello. I have one openvpn server process running in Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit. I want to run multiple instances. That first one instance has been automatically added to OS'es autostart (has something to do with init.d, I guess). How can I add more to autostart?
[20:08] <fixmypc956> I read about fstab yesterday and couldnt understand it
[20:08] <bekks> NEone: All you need to do is to configure openVPN to accept multiple VPN, etc. which is the only reason for multiple processes.
[20:09] <IamTrying> OK - thank you, pfifo . Ubuntu 13.10 will have right?
[20:09] <NEone> Or more generally: How do I add my own custom call of a process with params everytime the OS starts? Has something to do with "upstart", I heard?
[20:10] <bekks> !upstart | NEone
[20:10] <NEone> thanks
[20:10] <richard305> Rory: okay, I undid the update-alternatives thing and now it'll log in fine 2/3 times, with the third of three requiring a reboot and retry
[20:10] <pfifo> fixmypc956: your mounting your partition on /home... there is already stuff in /home that becomes inaccessable when you you do that, so you might want to mount your partition somewhere else, or copy the data that is already in /home to the partition.
[20:11] <richard305> Rory: my guess is that there's something not quite right in 13.10 right now
[20:11] <pfifo> !info resiprocate-turn-server saucy | IamTrying
[20:12] <fixmypc956> pfifo: so my initial install of the ubuntu has /home directory
[20:12] <NEone> So there is "upstart" and there is "System-V init". How do I figure out which one of the two my system is using? Or are they mixed / both working at the same time?
[20:12] <bekks> NEone: Which Ubuntu do you have?
[20:12] <pfifo> fixmypc956: yes, it already has a /home
[20:12] <NEone> 12.04 64-bit
[20:13] <fixmypc956> pfifo: and I created a /home directory on the HD partition
[20:13] <bekks> NEone: Then you are using upstart.
[20:13] <NEone> k, thanks
[20:14] <fixmypc956> the /home directory on the usb has nothing for the OS unless i put something in there
[20:14] <fixmypc956> ?
[20:15] <bng> Is it safe to use disk with bad sectors for no critical data? The disk knows about them so it won't use them, am I right?
[20:15] <compdoc> bng, reallocated sectors?
[20:15] <pfifo> fixmypc956: you might want to mount the partitions somewhere else, this is the MAIN IDEA of what im trying to tell you, understand this fist
[20:15] <apofis> bng: few bad sectors hmm... in a short time you should expect more ;)
[20:16] <compdoc> bng, the bad sectors tend to keep growing
[20:16] <bng> compdoc: smart reports reallocated sectors, my LVM commands report stuff like "read failed after 0 of 4096 at 123456789"
[20:17] <Random832> back up your data asap
[20:17] <bekks> bng: Your disk is broken, you should replace it as soon as possible.
[20:17] <richard305> Rory: thanks for trying to help
[20:18] <morten771> is there a quick command to check what desktop environment one is using?
[20:18] <bng> apofis, compdoc I know it won't last, that is not a problem. I am just asking, will the system use only healthy space, since it know s about the bad sectors?
[20:18] <morten771> so one know if it is gnome2, gnome3, cinnamon, mate, xfce, kde that is running?
[20:19] <bekks> morten771: No, there is no such command.
[20:19] <morten771> ok. could have been nice :-)
[20:19] <fixmypc956> pfifo: ok so I somehow created a /home directory on the partition I created on the HD, and it seems that I have /home on the usb drive which has ubuntu....how do I get rid of /home on the usb drive
[20:19] <zykotick9> morten771: check your DESKTOP_STARTUP_ID= in "env" from terminal [I'M NOT SURE IT'LL HELP!]
[20:19] <morten771> so I guess one have to sort of probe for each, like first run a command that say "yes" if it gnome2 etc
[20:20] <morten771> aha ok I check
[20:20] <bng> apofis, compdoc I have only 3 reallocated sectors, the disk could last for non-critical work I think, I'd just like to know whether LVM will stupidly use the three sectors with "input/output error" or not
[20:21] <pfifo> fixmypc956: i usually copy the contents of /home from the old location to the new location. then once Im comfortable that all my data exists in the new location, i delere /home all together and create a new empty directory to mount my home partition on
[20:21] <bng> I suppose this message from lvcreate as well as vgcreate must be because of reallocated  sector, right? "read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error"
[20:21] <zykotick9> morten771: if the above doesn't help, you could try "sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager" but again NOT SURE IT'LL HELP!
[20:22] <morten771> oh
[20:24] <fixmypc956> pfifo: I have nothing on original /home, unless something was installed with the initial installation...I am sure I created /home on the hard drive which I made one whole partition
[20:24] <bekks> bng: You have reallocated sectors. The disk is going to die.
[20:24] <bekks> bng: I wouldnt use it at all, not even for trash :)
[20:25] <pfifo> fixmypc956: I cant say for sure what the install process puts in /home, but im pretty certian it puts some important stuff there
[20:27] <esde> whats an easy way to backup my running ubuntu 12.04 installation to one file or directory to restore on a fresh ubuntu 12.04 installation? something that could backup installed packages, theme, etc would be fantastic
[20:27] <bekks> !backup | esde
[20:29] <fixmypc956> pfifo: oh crap!!!
[20:29] <fixmypc956> pfifo: what does this mean, 'Could not chdir to home directory /home/rodriguez: No such file or directory'?
[20:30] <gordonjcp> fixmypc956: it means you've created a user "rodriguez" but not created a home directory for them
[20:30] <pfifo> fixmypc956: there is no such file or directory
[20:31] <jhutchins> fixmypc956: That, or you created the user and home directory while something was mounted to /home, and now it's not mounted.
[20:31] <pfifo> jhutchins: you got that backwards
[20:31] <gordonjcp> pfifo: not necessarily
[20:31] <jhutchins> fixmypc956: Given that ubuntu makes it a bit difficult to create a user without creating the homedir, what I said (which is not backwards) is more likely.
[20:31] <gordonjcp> fixmypc956: anyway
[20:32] <gordonjcp> fixmypc956: how did you create the user "rodriguez"?
[20:32] <pfifo> gordonjcp: i know, for sure, his user was created while NOT mounted and now it IS mounted
[20:32] <gordonjcp> pfifo: okay, and how do you know that?
[20:32] <jhutchins> pfifo: You are correct, that is also possible.
[20:32] <pfifo> gordonjcp: cause i gave him the line he added to his fstab
[20:32] <jhutchins> gordonjcp: If you mount an empty partition over a partition with data, the mount point will appear empty.
[20:33] <fixmypc956> I dont remember creating the user rodriguez other that when I first installed ubuntu
[20:34] <DEagle> gotta tough question: how do I tell one monitor to switch ttys but the other one to stay where it is?
[20:34] <pfifo> gordonjcp: jhutchins: ive told this guy like 4 times now, he might not want to mount his partition on /home but somewhere else, but for one reason or another he is ignoring this
[20:34] <gordonjcp> pfifo: oh okay ;-)
[20:34] <reisio> DEagle: you know how to do both at once?
[20:34] <DEagle> 3 at the same time, yep
[20:35] <DEagle> but games don't like Xinerama
[20:35] <bekks> DEagle: There is no way to switch a single monitor to ttys.
[20:35] <DEagle> according to this, there is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[20:36] <bekks> DEagle: Thats an approach with having multiple X servers.
[20:36] <DEagle> but I don't want a whole separate environment, just a different tty for one of them
[20:36] <Raymond313> Holla.
[20:36] <bekks> DEagle: Using a single X server, there is no way.
[20:36] <DEagle> bekks: right, and I'm running 2 X's
[20:36] <DEagle> one in tty7, the other in 8
[20:37] <DEagle> tty7 runs my Nvidia and older ATI
[20:37] <DEagle> tty8 does only one monitor from the GeForce
[20:37] <DEagle> but the ATI monitor will still have the tty contents on screen when I switch
[20:38] <DEagle> but nothing updates, so I might as well get it to update, since I don't feel like turning it off/on all the time
[20:38] <Raymond313> Can I ask a mint question here?
[20:38] <bekks> Raymond313: No.
[20:38] <bekks> !mint | Raymond313
[20:39] <DEagle> so is this too tough for y'all? :P
[20:39] <esde> anyone have links explaining which directories i need to configure to backup to preserve repositories, packages, themes, fonts, etc?
[20:40] <DEagle> fonts should be in ~/.fonts
[20:40] <reisio> esde: mostly /usr/ and /var/
[20:40] <DEagle> oh well, thanks anyways folks
[20:40] <esde> ty
[20:40] <reisio> esde: you don't need to backup aspects of your system that are mirrored in thousands of places for Ubuntu, though
[20:41] <reisio> backup a list of what packages you've installed, that should do it
[20:42] <namea> is it possible to change the repos on ubuntu lucid to saucy ones?
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> namea: sounds risky
[20:43] <esde> reisio, /var/, /home/ /usr/ /etc/, should backup everything i mentioned and my sources.list with the extra sources ive added?
[20:44] <esde> and then install my list of packages from my backup list?
[20:45] <reisio> esde: you only need to backup config files you've changed, and a list of the packages you've chosen
[20:45] <reisio> (and your personal data)
[20:47] <rem> anyone had issues with launching skype on 13.10-amd64? seems like i miss libGL.so.1, but it does exist (/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1.2.0)
[20:49] <rem> I tried to install the package for 12.04 that is on the skype website (multiarch version)
[20:50] <OnceMe> hi
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> OnceMe: hello
[20:51] <OnceMe> I have gnome desktop
[20:51] <OnceMe> and ubuntu 13.04
[20:51] <OnceMe> upgraded from 12.0
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> !enter | OnceMe
[20:51] <OnceMe> and I can't show desktop
[20:52] <OnceMe> I can't show desktop, its so blurred and when I hit right click that menu won't go away on second click and so on.. so I can't use desktop... I tried dl tweak tools and disabling file manager, still the same
[20:52] <OnceMe> what to do?
[20:53] <CrimsonIdol> OnceMe, Sounds like your monitor is not set at the proper resolution.
[20:53] <OnceMe> lol
[20:53] <OnceMe> so how am I chatting with you? and on cinnamon gui it worked.
[20:55] <compdoc> disabling file manager doesnt make sense. and hope you put the settings back after the dl tweak tools
[20:56] <SparkyFlary> which is better mate or cinnamon?
[20:56] <bekks> !best | SparkyFlary
[20:56] <OnceMe> can somoene help me
[20:56] <Ziber> What's the difference between SNAT and MASQUERADE in iptables?
[20:56] <OnceMe> or my problems are solveless
[20:56] <OnceMe> SNAT is nat
[20:57] <OnceMe> !nat | Ziber
[20:57] <Ziber> I want my ubuntu server (which is currently being used as a router for a VPN), rather than masquerade, to just forward the packets, with source addresses in tact.
[20:58] <MrDyne> Is there a terminal doohickey that means the lowest level of the hdd, like the rool level? or the Linux version of C:/
[20:58] <SparkyFlary> can't get the bot to work
[20:58] <OnceMe> most likely I'mma with my finer
[20:58] <OnceMe> \can someone help me or nor? I need best help
[20:58] <Ziber> MrDyne: /
[20:58] <Raymond313> Ubuntu means Humanity.
[20:59] <OnceMe> my mfing broth
[20:59] <OnceMe> all these mfs don't know
[20:59] <OnceMe> int[] x = new int[12]
[20:59] <MrDyne> ok restatement, how do I write an absolute file path?
[20:59] <OnceMe> lmo0
[20:59] <lapion> OnceMe, whatr do you mean blurry ?
[20:59] <OnceMe> lapion: I mean its not showing
[20:59] <auronandace> MrDyne: /path/to/file
[21:00] <Ziber> MrDyne: /path/to/some/file
[21:00] <Raymond313> sudo apt-get update
[21:00] <lapion> OnceMe, have a screenshot ?
[21:00] <Raymond313> sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:01] <Lubenso> where are you from?
[21:04] <Raymond313> I represent Detroit.
[21:04] <wilornel_> Hey guys, is it normal that Ubuntu does not detect my router wirelessly?
[21:04] <Raymond313> Push the WPS button Wilornel.
[21:04] <SchrodingersScat> wps is terrible though
[21:04] <bekks> Raymond313: Thats not supposed to work with Linux.
[21:05] <MrDyne> ugh still can't get rc.local to work. I tested the command to start Team Speak  in a root terminal and that worked but rc.local isn't getting triggered. I made it excuitable.
[21:05] <zykotick9> SchrodingersScat: +1 WPS is exploited by reaver (it can't be disabled on many routers!)
[21:05] <wilornel_> Raymond313: It doesn't have one
[21:05] <lapion> MrDyne, ubuntu is not using rc.local anymore
[21:05] <OnceMe> lapion: here http://i.imgur.com/pt7Pxqj.gif
[21:05] <OnceMe> now what?
[21:05] <wilornel_> Raymond313: Ubuntu does not detect ANY wireless router
[21:06] <john_doe_jr> is secure copy 'scp' smart engough to not recopy files that alright exist?
[21:06] <Raymond313> It should.
[21:06] <wilornel_> So should I install some drivers?
[21:07] <auronandace> wilornel_: sounds like something wrong with your wifi drivers
[21:07] <lapion> OnceMe, is that screenshot or a photo ?
[21:07] <OnceMe> screenshoto
[21:07] <wilornel_> auronandace: I had windows 8 on that laptop before, it connected just fine.
[21:07] <lapion> onceme is that on crt or lcd ?
[21:07] <OnceMe> lcd
[21:07] <wilornel_> Oooooh sorry guys
[21:07] <OnceMe> its screnshot
[21:07] <wilornel_> I have to restart my laptop first!
[21:07] <OnceMe> I edited it, since its showing my xchat chat email etc etc
[21:08] <MrDyne> So were do I put the command to start Team Speak server on computer but, without having to login.
[21:08] <OnceMe> what to do man Im clueless I am asking help for 1 month I dont know what to do man I am sad
[21:08] <MrDyne> *computer boot
[21:09] <OnceMe> MrDyne: you are lucky
[21:09] <MrDyne> why?
[21:09] <OnceMe> I have bigger problem, your problem is not even a problem
[21:09] <lapion> OnceMe, you are probably using high contrast theme
[21:09] <OnceMe> how to fix that
[21:10] <lapion> doesn't  seem blurry.. that font is good readable
[21:10] <OnceMe> lapion: what to do
[21:10] <lapion> OnceMe, use a different theme..
[21:10] <OnceMe> how and where
[21:10] <gordonjcp> OnceMe: what do you mean "blurry"?
[21:10] <OnceMe> its not blurry
[21:10] <OnceMe> look at that picture
[21:11] <gordonjcp> what picture?
[21:11] <columb> Why "/usr/bin/x -core :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -nostwitch" could cause hight CPU load?
[21:12] <guntbert> john_doe_jr: no it isn't, neither is copy
[21:12] <OnceMe> ok I use some theme now lapion
[21:12] <OnceMe> but I dont have an icon on the left side for desktop
[21:12] <muellisoft> columb: maybe you don't have 3D capabilities and need to fall back to software rendering
[21:12] <pfifo> columb: cause X is has the mass of 3 blackholes
[21:12] <OnceMe> how to see desktop now?
[21:12] <columb> So what do I do?
[21:12] <columb> To reduce it?
[21:12] <lapion> OnceMe, are u using ubuntu with unity ?
[21:12] <OnceMe> yes
[21:12] <john_doe_jr> guntbert: alright is rsynch smart enough then?
[21:13] <pfifo> columb: nothing, its expected
[21:13] <lapion> OnceMe, are u using ubuntu with unity ?
[21:13] <lapion> OnceMe, you do not get the row of icons on the left ?
[21:13] <columb> pfifo, it's shouldn't it that much. Sometimes it's over 50% of my CPU.
[21:13] <OnceMe> I do get
[21:14] <OnceMe> all icons on the left works fine, but just when I changed theme, I dont have desktop icon anymore
[21:14] <OnceMe> but icons work and are vieable
[21:14] <OnceMe> viewable
[21:14] <guntbert> john_doe_jr: yes, but you will have to look into   man rsync   to see details
[21:14] <lapion> OnceMe, Istill do not understand what the real problem ?
[21:14] <lapion> *is
[21:14] <pfifo> columb: what kind of hardware are we talking about here?
[21:15] <OnceMe> lapion: nothing you didnt fix
[21:15] <dandedilia> cheers
[21:15] <OnceMe> I changed theme to radiance
[21:15] <OnceMe> and its still stupid desktop
[21:15] <dandedilia> why radiance?
[21:15] <john_doe_jr> guntbert: what options do you recommend then for rsynch?
[21:15] <OnceMe> TO WHAT TO CHANGE
[21:15] <OnceMe> NOBODY SAID WHAT TO CHANGE TO
[21:15] <FloodBot1> OnceMe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:15] <bekks> OnceMe: we can read lower caps too.
[21:15] <lapion> OnceMe, I still do not understand what the problem is
[21:15] <OnceMe> bekks: you cant
[21:15] <dandedilia> radiance is shit ^^
[21:15] <OnceMe> you are shit
[21:16] <dandedilia> xD
[21:16] <columb> pfifo,  HD 7770, E8400 (2@3GHz).
[21:16] <guntbert> john_doe_jr: thats why I said "look into man" - I'd have to look it up myself :-)
[21:16] <Raymond313> Wouild Ubuntu run on my Pentium 4?
[21:16] <lapion> it would seem onceme had a drink too much
[21:16] <pfifo> columb: why are you running this paticular command?
[21:16] <anex> lmao
[21:16] <Muelli> Raymond313: yes.
[21:16] <lapion> Raymond313, how much ram ?
[21:16] <john_doe_jr> guntbert: alright…I almost tricked you there into doing some work didn't I?
[21:16] <columb> pfifo, it's from htop.
[21:17] <kop> seems I haven't had enough to drink
[21:17] <Raymond313> 256
[21:17] <guntbert> john_doe_jr: almost :-)
[21:17] <lapion> Raymond313, try lubuntu
[21:17] <Raymond313> ok
[21:17] <anex> try xubuntu
[21:17] <pfifo> columb: is this a server or some sort of remote setup?
[21:18] <columb> No, it's my desktop. I don't install video cards on servers, lol.
[21:18] <lapion> anex, xubuntu uses slightly more ram then lubuntu
[21:18] <pfifo> bitcoin miners do
[21:18] <anex> ya but i like it better
[21:18] <dandedilia> xubuntu is better than lubuntu :)
[21:18] <columb> Elite miners uses specialized cpu's. :P
[21:18] <lapion> anex, cannot run is 256 mb ram
[21:19] <lapion> 8in
[21:19] <pfifo> columb: ever graphical app you run adds to X's load, if your running lots of stuff its not unusual for X to have the biggest footprint
[21:19] <lapion> 8in8in
[21:19] <kop> anything is better than M$ but then again I haven't used anything M$ in 12 years , I wouldn't know
[21:19] <Raymond313> It could be a web server right?
[21:19] <columb> Isn't X means graphical server? It should load my GPU, not CPU, right?
[21:20] <pfifo> columb: no, not at all
[21:20] <wilornel> Hey guys, Ubuntu is not detecting any possible wireless connections
[21:20] <wilornel> I think im missing a driver for my wireless card, how can I find which is my wireless card?
[21:20] <lapion> wilornel, check rfkill
[21:21] <auronandace> wilornel: pastebin lspci
[21:21] <slut_tits> HI
[21:21] <lapion> wilornel, "rfkill list"
[21:21] <columb> pfifo, system dovetails indicates my Graphics as "VESA:-100". It is okay?
[21:21] <wilornel> auronandace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6465730/
[21:21] <columb> *system details
[21:21] <wilornel> lapion, rfkill list returns nothing :/
[21:22] <XMLnewbi> im on 12.04, I ran sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libv4l/ppa        but  sudo apt-get install gtk-v4l        trying to get video for linux installed
[21:22] <pfifo> columb: thats ok, but its not using the gracphic cards capabilities
[21:22] <XMLnewbi> gtk-v4l * not found
[21:22] <naquad> hi
[21:23] <columb> pfifo, so how do I use them?
[21:23] <lapion> XMLnewbi, no need for v4l with 12.03
[21:23] <lapion> XMLnewbi, what kind of card do you have ?
[21:23] <pfifo> columb: not sure what the current procedure is, I fried my back when bitcoin was cool
[21:23] <XMLnewbi> im on a beagle bone black
[21:23] <lapion> XMLnewbi, analog digital ?
[21:23] <columb> :)
[21:24] <XMLnewbi> getting an error, cheese wont open.      ill post the error one second
[21:24] <columb> I already tried to various drivers with no lack.
[21:24] <lapion> XMLnewbi, for a webcam ?
[21:24] <columb> *luck
[21:24] <amantux> exit
[21:24] <XMLnewbi> yes, Im trying to get zbar cam to read codes, for a big project need to get it ro work
[21:25] <guntbert> !pastebin | XMLnewbi
[21:25] <Scrat> Hellooo?
[21:26] <XMLnewbi> http://pastebin.com/6XJXi5p9
[21:26] <reisio> Screedo: hiiiii
[21:26] <pfifo> columb: run jockey-gtk and see if it can install them for you
[21:26] <dandedilia> is it possible to integrade a clock in the unity launcher? :D
[21:27] <Raymond313> Is Ubuntu free?
[21:27] <reisio> anything is possible
[21:27] <reisio> Raymond313: yes
[21:27] <Raymond313> How do developers get paid?
[21:28] <pfifo> Raymond313: under the table
[21:28] <Raymond313> ^^
[21:28] <XMLnewbi> bitcoin tips
[21:28] <Raymond313> Can i pay a developer?
[21:29] <blognewb> Raymond313, for what
[21:29] <auronandace> !donate | Raymond313
[21:29] <pfifo> Raymond313: the developers only accept bacon as payment
[21:29] <blognewb> bitcoin
[21:29] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd.#Business_plans
[21:29] <Raymond313> LOL
[21:29] <guntbert> back to support please
[21:29] <dandedilia> +1
[21:30] <columb> pfifo,  jockey-gtk is derp. http://pastebin.com/5XDbnyBA
[21:31] <pfifo> columb: try 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[21:33] <dandedilia> sudo apt-get install beer :)
[21:33] <FlurglerHobbit> Hey all. How do I edit grub for just one boot?
[21:34] <wilornel> Ubuntu does not have any audio output...
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> FlurglerHobbit: hit e in the grub menu
[21:34] <pfifo> FlurglerHobbit: press 'e' while at the grub screen
[21:34] <FlurglerHobbit> hey pfifo! Thanks hitsujiTMO & pfifo
[21:34] <FlurglerHobbit> chau
[21:35] <sarvsav> Hi,
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> i suppose pressing the butting rather than hitting it might be better. you might break the key if you hit it
[21:35] <sarvsav> Whenever i start ubuntu, it starts with max brightness, is it possible to start it with min darkness.
[21:35] <sarvsav> *brightness
[21:36] <FlurglerHobbit> haha
[21:37] <FlurglerHobbit> pfifo: I am almost completely done setting up my server. Right now I am uncompressing some virtual machines in there...after that I will fix this headless issue....I'm so excited xD
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> sarvsav: i always presumed it retained the last setting, but i supposed you could ass a script to lightdm to set the brightness
[21:37] <sarvsav> Thanks hitsujiTMO , i will make the change in .bash_profile file.
[21:38] <XMLnewbi> *Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)      ive bought 3 differnt webcams to try, unable to get a video preview or scan QR codes http://pastebin.com/6XJXi5p9
[21:38] <XMLnewbi> or run cheese
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> sarvsav: you normally find the brightness controls in /sys/class/backlight
[21:40] <Xgates> hi guys
[21:40] <sarvsav> what will happen if i change the max_brightness value to something like this : 10000000. Does my screen get explode?
[21:40] <Xgates> Having some sort of fonts issue in Xchat; http://i.imgur.com/CmEKqhY.png never seen anything like this before, the screen shot is Lubuntu but this also happens in Ubuntu 13.10... Anyone know what's up with this?
[21:41] <XMLnewbi> It veryy important i get this working. If some one sits with me and helps debug this till it works ill pay 100$ in bitcoin
[21:41] <Xgates> And Xchat also disconnects too
[21:44] <Raymond313> Show me the money!
[21:44] <bekks> Raymond313: Stop the offtopic.
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> sarvsav: max_brightness is a readonly param. you can set brightness to anywhere between 0 and max_brightness
[21:44] <Xgates> anyone have a clue to this font issue in Xchat? I don't see anything online about this either...
[21:46] <Raymond313> Bye guys!
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> xgates thats not a font issue that loots more like a charset issue
[21:47] <Xgates> It happens in both Lubuntu 13.10 and Ubuntu... any clue as to how to fix this?
[21:47] <Xgates> hmm odd
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> xgates: whats your system charset set to? and whats the charset for that server set to?
[21:51] <Xgates> LOL I forget how to check this...
[21:51] <Xgates> errrrrr
[21:51] <Xgates> one sec unless you can tell me?
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> xgates: go into the network list, and edit the freenode entry. that charset should be specifiec there
[21:52] <Xgates> ok
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> xgates: if it just says "system default" try change it to utf-8
[21:54] <Xgates> well it's the same as the version I'm using on another box the IRC latin hybrid
[21:54] <canros> good day, am getting an error when i try to mount a dvd disk into the  drive
[21:54] <Xgates> nothing working this is weird
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> Xgates: have you specified "use ssl for all the servers" ?
[21:55] <canros> mount: wrong fs filesystem type or wrong option on /dev/sr0
[21:55] <canros> i try do it using
[21:55] <canros> mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /media/dvd because is a dvd
[21:56] <Xgates> LOL sheesh ssl works
[21:57] <columb> pfifo, so I just tested every  driver provided by jockey-gtk (it's already part of Software & Updates). X.Org X server - LAG, gallium, visual glitches.  fglrx same results as with my current flgrx-updates. High CPU and VESA: -100.
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> xgates: 8001 is listed as non ssl on the freenode list but it seems that server is using ssl for that port. might be a good idea to mention it in #freenode
[21:57] <Xgates> hmm
[22:17] <smaudet> Greetings, does anyone know how to delete an inode, without using a find command?
[22:18] <smaudet> i.e. if I know the inode, can i just rm #inodenumber# ?
[22:18] <mydevilroot> Hello all :)
[22:18] <ztane> smaudet: you cant...
[22:18] <ztane> smaudet: directly...
[22:18] <oscar_> woww hola...alguien de argentina_ acabo de instalar el ubuntu
[22:18] <ztane> smaudet: rm is not about removing inodes, it is about removing the directory entries
[22:19] <guntbert> !es | oscar_
[22:19] <ztane> smaudet: the inode is collected when the link count goes to 0
[22:21] <rdz> hi all. is there a way in shotwell (photo manager) to associate certain tags to images with key commands?
[22:22] <molgrum> hi all, i installed cinnamon from the official repos and it works good except when i click the menu everything freezes except the mouse pointer
[22:23] <prawnsalad> hello. on 12.04, ive noticed /var/log/syslog is entirely empty. shouldnt that be pretty populated?
[22:23] <molgrum> successively
[22:23] <richwestcoast> hey can anone setup a cronjob to hit one of my url's every 3 seconds, im willing to pay bitcoins per month
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> prawnsalad: is it by anychance empty because you do not have permission to read it?
[22:24] <pfifo> richwestcoast: why not just buy a VPS and do it yourself?
[22:24] <prawnsalad> hitsujiTMO: its owned by root, has read access for its own user, and im logged in as root
[22:24] <richwestcoast> i figured i could help pay someone elses bill
[22:24] <prawnsalad> du on the file also shows 0
[22:25] <guntbert> !ot | richwestcoast
[22:25] <richwestcoast> soz guntbert
[22:25] <richwestcoast> pm me if u interest
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> prawnsalad: in that case you've a problem as that should be heavily populated
[22:26] <Foxhoundz> What is the proper permissions for www-data
[22:26] <prawnsalad> hitsujiTMO: any idea how i can debug this?
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> prawnsalad: what size is the file showing as? ls -l /var/log/syslog
[22:26] <bekks> Foxhoundz: Permissions on which folder?
[22:26] <Foxhoundz> bekks: /var/www
[22:26] <pfifo> Foxhoundz: www-data is a user/group it dosent have permissions
[22:26] <bekks> Foxhoundz: 0755
[22:27] <prawnsalad> hitsujiTMO: 0. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 14 07:35 syslog
[22:27] <guntbert> prawnsalad: show us the output of   ls -ls /var/log/syslog   and  lsb_release -a please
[22:27] <Foxhoundz> this is currently the setting: -rw-r--r--  1 www-data www-data
[22:27] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, I need a bit of help with installation. Someone I know accidentally used dd to write an iso to an internal hard drive instead of a usb drive.
[22:27] <DreamPCs> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 but I can't get past the partitioninght.
[22:27] <DreamPCs> *partitioning
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> prawnsalad: that file shoulf be 600 not 644 ... weird. try deleting it and see if it starts populating
[22:28] <maujhsn> Can anybody tell me who maintains "ubuntu-restricted-extras" now that medubuntu no longer is involved?
[22:28] <pfifo> DreamPCs: what do you need help with?
[22:28] <Rav3nW00D> Heyo
[22:28] <DreamPCs> pfifo I'm sorry I'm trying to get the error message again
[22:28] <DreamPCs> Just a sec
[22:29] <prawnsalad> hitsujiTMO: nothing as yet..
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> prawnsalad: it might need a reboot to start it writing again
[22:30] <prawnsalad> hitsujiTMO: is there a service i can simply restart instead? or does it actually need a whole system restart..
[22:31] <prawnsalad> hitsujiTMO: oh nvm, rsyslog service
[22:31] <prawnsalad> it now has entries :)
[22:31] <prawnsalad> thank you!
[22:31] <DreamPCs> "Can't have a partition outside the disk!"
[22:31] <DreamPCs> That's the error I get after selecting the hard drive to install onto.
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> prawnsalad: keep an eye incase it happens again. whatever caused it might still be messing up
[22:32] <DreamPCs> Before the drive was unallocated space (reported by gparted) so I created a partition table (msdos) and formated it to ext4
[22:32] <DreamPCs> Now whenever I try to install Ubuntu, I get that error. I have no idea how to proceed.
[22:32] <prawnsalad> hitsujiTMO: ok will do. i just have a crashed db box right now and had to check for errors. if it does happen again, where would i even start to find out whats going on?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> DreamPCs: can you tell me the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[22:33] <pfifo> DreamPCs: go into gparted and create a new partition table, and leave it all unallocated this time, then when installing, manually partition.
[22:33] <maujhsn> ubottu   Tell me who maintains "ubuntu-restricted-extras"!
[22:33] <DreamPCs> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[22:33] <DreamPCs> /dev/sdh1            2048   143374335    71686144   83  Linux
[22:34] <DreamPCs> There's other drives listed but this is the one I'm having the issue with.
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> DreamPCs: can you pastebin the full output please
[22:34] <DreamPCs> And pfifo I'm going to try that right now.
[22:34] <DreamPCs> Ok I will hitsu
[22:34] <guntbert> !pastebin | DreamPCs
[22:35] <DreamPCs> hitsijiTMO
[22:35] <DreamPCs> http://pastebin.com/WaaTRTAk
[22:37] <joseph__> io
[22:38] <joseph__> quit
[22:39] <nicktb> hi
[22:39] <nicktb> !list
[22:41] <smaudet> ztane, got any suggestions then?
[22:41] <DreamPCs> Damn pfifo I think that letting the install do the formating solved the issue. It appears to be installing now.
[22:42] <DreamPCs> Why would manually created the partition beforehand in gparted be a bad thing?
[22:43] <DaemonicApathy> Bad formatting?
[22:43] <DreamPCs> Do you mean on the software or on me? All I did was create a ext4 partition with all default options
[22:44] <DreamPCs> No special partitioning or resizing done.
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> DreamPCs: the installer isn't the best when it comes to figuring out free space when there's multiple drives involved. it was prob trying to create a partition rather than use the existing partition
[22:44] <DaemonicApathy> In that case, it's probably just a user-unfriendly setting in the installation process.
[22:44] <DaemonicApathy> What hitsujiTMO said.
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> DreamPCs: the partition you created is ok. there's nothing wrong with it. its the installer than can be finicky
[22:44] <DreamPCs> lol that's crazy. Well either way I'm glad it worked.
[22:45] <DreamPCs> Thanks for all your help, I was talking with Google for hours on this one.
[22:45] <DaemonicApathy> <3 ext4
[22:48] <pfifo> uhh, ext4 > 3 last time I checked, and you have your terms backwards, so syntax error too
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo i think he meant 3 ext4 drives > DaemonicApathy
[22:49] <ubuntu001> e voi chi siete??
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> !it | ubuntu001
[22:52] <smaudet> pfifo, pretty sure he was saying he liked ext4, not that ext3 was better
[22:53] <smaudet> ztane, so if I can't remove inodes...then what do I do about bad ones?
[23:01] <Muelli> smaudet: I would expect fsck to take care of any "bad" inodes.
[23:05] <molgrum> cinnamon freezes when i open up the menu, this is a big annoyance because i really like how it looks
[23:05] <molgrum> installed from official repos
[23:06] <arielsanflo> hello
[23:06] <arielsanflo> i am from colombia
[23:06] <smaudet> Muelli, hmm ok I'll try that.
[23:06] <arielsanflo> my english is so so
[23:07] <smaudet> Muelli, otherwise (specifically) its a problem with encryptfs, which seems to like to randomly corrupt, I guess I should read up on that as well.
[23:07] <Muelli> smaudet: how do you know?
[23:15] <smaudet> Muelli, well the problems have to do with ecryptfs because the logs which inform me of the problem tell me this as well
[23:16] <richard305> anyone know a place in boston (MA) that's really good with ubuntu machines?
[23:16] <smaudet> Muelli, also, perhaps unrelated, but these same issues are causing the system to crash
[23:16] <Muelli> smaudet: what do the logs say?
[23:16] <smaudet> 'Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region, inode 14958439'
[23:20] <NEone> What are simple cli commands to show: RAM free/used, disk free/used, that are by default installed in 12.04 server so I don't have to install landscape-sysinfo?
[23:20] <ikonia> free and df
[23:20] <NEone> thanks
[23:29] <JayPro> this is probably basic, but i can't seem to find my files.  what happens to a file or folder if you type the following in a terminal "mv <example> ..Desktop"?  i mistyped, forgetting the "/" in "..Desktop"
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> JayPro: it gets renamed to ..Desktop
[23:30] <lee__> hello every1
[23:31] <JayPro> nope... i dont see "..Desktop"
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> JayPro: ls -la
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> JayPro: files starting with '.' are 'hidden' files
[23:33] <JayPro> ohhhh.. i've always used "ls -l" not "ls -la" lol... thank you hitsujiTMO
[23:33] <wahben> hello Ubuntuers! I am switching from cloud hosting to my "own" cloud solution. So I have a Debian server in a data center with IP 192..., the eth0 is bridged. I have some virtual machines running Ubuntu. Now everything works, but I don't know what I should set the Gateway as...
[23:34] <Private_User> hi all I was wondering is there a log file in ubuntu where every error I encountered is logged and where can I find it?
[23:34] <wahben> On the ubuntu machines
[23:34] <wahben> I was given a block of IP addresses on a different subnet than the Host machine.
[23:35] <ikonia> wahben: do you not think you should not be running a cloud service if you can't manage basic networking ?
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> wahben: you give it the same gateway as the host. is this by anychance ovh?
[23:36] <ikonia> wahben: if you can't deal with a simple network setup, do you really feel you can manage a cloud solution
[23:36] <wahben> ikonia: Do you think that I didn't already consider that? We are paying way too much for cloud solutions so I'm setting up own cloud
[23:36] <ikonia> wahben: right, and you can't manage it
[23:37] <ikonia> wahben: so it will cost you more money / time
[23:37] <wahben> hitsujiTMO: I was thinking setting the same gateway than the host as well
[23:37] <wahben> hitsujiTMO: yes it's OVH
[23:37] <wahben> ikonia: by doing it I will learn. I must say i'm offended by your comment.
[23:38] <ikonia> wahben: if the truth offends you, that's your problem
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> wahben: ovh actually have a guideline for this scenario: http://help.ovh.ie/BridgeClient
[23:38] <ikonia> wahben: I suggest taking it to #debian and explaining how the host is setup, they can help you work out which address you have configured to be your gateway
[23:38] <wahben> hitsujiTMO: ah nice! That's awesome I will look at this.
[23:39] <pepee> how does kernel backporting works in ubuntu? is there any at all? is it done upstream?
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> and as ikonia has pointed out, there's a very good reason why cloud solutions cost money. there's a hell of a lot you don't need to worry about with them
[23:41] <NEone> is there another command (other than uname -a) to query which exact distro is running?
[23:41] <bekks> NEone: lsb_release -a
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> pepee: is there a specific reason why you're asking this question? knowing the resoning might allow us to give a better response
[23:42] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> reasoning*
[23:42] <NEone> thanks, exactly what I was looking for
[23:42] <ikonia>  /etc/issue is not a certain way
[23:44] <NEone> hitsujiTMO: The release name ("precise", in my case) is not in the answer of "uname -a". But it is in the answer of "lsb_release -a". That's what I was looking for.
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> neone: sorry, my question was directed at someone else
[23:45] <pepee> hitsujiTMO, sorry, I was afk for a momen
[23:45] <pepee> t
[23:45] <pepee> hitsujiTMO, yes, runtime PM support for the radeon driver
[23:46] <pepee> |PM = power management
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> pepee thats put back to 3.13 afaik
[23:46] <pepee> hitsujiTMO, yes
[23:48] <pepee> btw, wasn't ubuntu going to have a "rolling release"/"devel" repo?
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> pepee, for that you'd have to wait for a mainline release: found http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but its going to be another few months for 3.13 to be released
[23:48] <bekks> pepee: Not until now.
[23:48] <cpt_cupcake> Hello! I am trying to connect Mac OS mail with my Mail Server running Ubuntu 13.10 and I am able to receive mails, but not send any. It gives me the error: Mail was unable to connect to server . Can anyone help? :-/
[23:48] <pepee> hitsujiTMO, yes, I'm using rc1 right now
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> pepee: generally what happens with the kernel is that they're fixed for a release and only receive fixes and security updates. for that release. LTS do get new kernels with point releases but are only installed by default on a clean install. otherwise you need to force the change in kernel version
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> pepee: i would expect 14.04 to be released with 3.13 at least
[23:52] <pepee> yeah I know
[23:52] <pepee> well, that's what I wanted to know, thanks hitsujiTMO
[23:57] <Beldar> I wanted to share this with the channel,  on Ted Talks with Henry Evans, a mute quadriplegic using open source for controlling robots, he is using ubuntu. http://www.ted.com/talks/henry_evans_and_chad_jenkins_meet_the_robots_for_humanity.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2013-11-23&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=talk_of_the_week_image
[23:57] <lipvig> hi guys
[23:57] <lipvig> what if I wanted to install ubuntu without display/keyboard/mouse
[23:57] <lipvig> just headless
[23:57] <lipvig> as the server
[23:58] <pfifo> lipvig: use the server install cd
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> install ubuntu server?
[23:58] <lipvig> yes, ubuntu server
[23:58] <legrandin> hello?
[23:58] <legrandin> so uh... my thing is broke
[23:58] <legrandin> :)
[23:58] <lipvig> "At the boot prompt you will be asked to select the language."
[23:59] <lipvig> but wait, I don't have a display
[23:59] <lipvig> or keyboard
[23:59] <lipvig> can I install it via ssh?
[23:59] <legrandin> specifically, localhost aint working, giving me a 403 when i try to access files. new ubuntu, new lamp, can anyone lend a hand?
[23:59] <pfifo> lipvig: youll need a head to install