[01:13] aww, sabdfl sends his love to the flavors in his uds keynote [01:14] * pleia2 is about 4 days behind [01:14] Still ahead of me. === GridCube_ is now known as GridCube === Unit193 is now known as TheMaster === TheDrums is now known as DalekSec [11:20] ali1234: amazing job so far, great comments and helpful links. so it looks like there will be a solution pretty "soon" [11:23] ali1234: so which branches/code needs to be tested now (lightdm-gtk-greeter and xfwm4)? links please :) [12:12] knome: ty - I see the xubuntu.org got updated [12:16] np [12:17] I see you warned slicky I was looking for him too :p [12:23] mhm, fair enough ;) [12:25] he he he [13:24] knome, you were looking for me? [13:57] brainwash: i'm just working on the greeter code to fix that up. for now you can test https://github.com/ali1234/xfwm4/tree/zoom2 [13:58] this doesn't look as bad as it did last night [14:00] greeter should be using XROOTPMAP_ID and ESETROOT_PMAP_ID, then it's resources can get cleared properly [14:01] the xfwm4 code looks fine - it doesn't ever set the background, so really it only needs to look at XROOTPMAP_ID, which is same in both standards [14:17] bblte [15:17] hahaha... [15:18] so the ugly code in lightdm-gtk-greeter was lifted straight from gnome... the fixes made in mate are exactly the same ones we need [15:18] the greeter or xfwm? [15:21] greeter [15:22] https://github.com/jasmineaura/mate-desktop/blob/2876f1eba73c126cfc6017856345e7eebe6d8d61/libmate-desktop/mate-bg.c#L1116 [15:22] code looks familiar... [15:23] a bit! :) [15:24] i wish people would document when they copy & paste code [15:24] it would make fixing it so much easier [15:26] true [15:26] I think I'll start doing that in the future :D === rainbowdash` is now known as Mapley === Mapley is now known as rainbowdash` [15:46] heh... even this fixed code appears to have bugs [15:46] eg it frees the old background before setting the new one, causing some ugly corruption [16:11] hmm that's interesting... the greeter actually restarts each time you change user selection [16:20] oh dear [16:20] this "fixed" code actually doesn't work at all [16:20] it doesn't ever create the atoms, so they never exist, so the code does nothing [16:21] oh well, i fixed it [16:43] heh, this bug was already fixed in mate :) [16:43] ali1234: you should consider becoming a member of the lightdm gtk greeter team [16:44] i thought you added me :) [16:45] unofficially :D [16:54] i just realised something: xfwm does not memcpy the pixmap, it memcpys the pixmap's ID [16:54] so that can go invalid later one [18:19] hmm. greeter is still leaking memory [18:19] but the good news is it no longer leaks X client connections [18:32] cool... 2000 background changes, memory use did not increase :) [20:09] hello [20:10] Howdy. [20:11] i am from colombia [20:11] my english is so so [20:56] hi, it seems that xubuntu 13.10 is still using xfce4-indicator-plugin 0.5, any reason you can't upgrade to 1.0? [20:57] 1.0 has e.g. gui for black/white-listing indicators, people are asking me how to do it since 13.10 has been released. [20:58] andrzejr: Will it require bringing GTK3 in? [21:00] IIRC 1.0 was the last gtk2 release, and is what debian has [21:01] No one got around to fixing the xubuntu patch, so we never got it [21:01] I thought the idea was to get it in backports, but Mica kept being busy at work. [21:03] something like that (i thought 2.1 was for backports though). [21:03] We need a way to get micah or lionel to stop having lives and do more xubuntu stuff. [21:05] skellat, no, 1.x branch is reserved for gtk2 versions. [21:06] I know there is a long term plan of switching to 2.x (gtk3) but this is progressing slowly, and meanwhile gtk2 users are left behind. [21:06] Right now we don't have 1.0 in the Ubuntu archive [21:06] So we need to get that in for Trusty and then it can be backported [21:07] Ah, I though you tried 1.0 and found issues with it. [21:09] I just don't see any action on our end since May 2013 comparing the two changelogs. We've got Ubuntu deltas to the Debian package. http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/x/xfce4-indicator-plugin/xfce4-indicator-plugin_0.5.0-2ubuntu2/changelog [21:26] skellat, do you think that could be done anytime soon? [22:28] right. lightdm-gtk-greeter is finally not leaking at all, anything, ever : https://code.launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/lightdm-gtk-greeter/experimental [22:28] the next question is how to make xfwm4 and xfdesktop cooperate with this [22:57] ali1234: you actually were already added to the lightdm-gtk-greeter team, so feel free to push to a branch there [22:58] i don't really know how to be honest [22:58] hello [22:58] i am from colombia [22:58] no speack english [22:58] help [22:58] hey arielsanflo [22:58] software center [22:59] no funciona [22:59] en ubuntu 14.04 [22:59] arielsanflo, you want #ubuntu [22:59] ali1234: you can go to the branch bluesabre created on the lp-website and it should tell you an example bzr push line [22:59] !es [22:59] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [22:59] yes [22:59] ali1234: sry, am on an ipad here, so cant really help more... [22:59] de haya me mandaron aca [23:01] ping GridCube [23:04] ochosi: so i just push to ~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team insetad ~a-j-buxton? [23:08] arielsanflo: For technical support for xubuntu join #xubuntu, for 14.04 support, #ubuntu+1. Both channels, however, are primarily in English [23:08] drc thanks [23:09] if you are trying to install commercial stuff, you probably won't find it in the software center in development releases (ie 14.04) [23:14] and I have this error when you upgrade [23:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6466158/ === Guest66951 is now known as Mapley [23:27] drc, pong [23:30] GridCube: I think arielsanflo needs some direction (in Spanish) on where to get support (apparently his/her English is not good enough to understand what was told). Care to help him/her ? [23:31] oh, right [23:32] arielsanflo, hola como estás, que problema parece que tenes? [23:39] gridcube [23:39] gracias [23:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6466158/ [23:40] al hacer sudo apt-get update [23:43] arielsanflo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/120621/how-to-fix-duplicate-sources-list-entry [23:47] GridCube, this ain't a support channel though. [23:48] knome, he is in trusty tho [23:48] but you are right [23:48] nonetheless... ultimately, i don't expect anything in trusty to be very trusty yet :P [23:49] jjfrv8, hey... you happen to be around now? :) [23:58] knome, yes, just got back. What's up? [23:58] muachas gracias por la ayuda [23:59] jjfrv8, wondered if you'd be up for looking over the doc blueprint [23:59] you mean together? [23:59] yep :) [23:59] ok