[00:33]  * skellat sees that the meeting starts in less than 30 minutes
[00:49] <skellat> Momentary brown-out just happened.  Not good to hear the UPS clicking
[01:00] <skellat> GOOD EVENING UBUNTU OHIO!
[01:01] <belkinsa> (Ouch my hears) ;)
[01:01] <skellat> Who is ready for tonight's meeting?
[01:01]  * belkinsa is ready to go
[01:02]  * drkokandy is hear
[01:02] <drkokandy> whoops
[01:02]  * drkokandy is here
[01:03] <skellat> Who else is ready for tonight's meeting?  jrgifford?  TheMaster?
[01:04] <skellat> Going once
[01:05] <skellat> Going twice
[01:06] <skellat> And with that being said, we'll start the discussion with those who are present and then probably throw this over to our area on discourse.ubuntu.com to keep things moving
[01:06] <skellat> Our agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/MeetingAgenda2013-11
[01:06] <jenni> [ OhioTeam/MeetingAgenda2013-11 - Ubuntu Wiki ] - https://j.mp/1h2pzsJ
[01:06] <skellat> Tonight's we are "Looking Ahead to the Future"
[01:07] <skellat> Since we were verified by the LoCo Council handily, we need to make some plans for where we are going
[01:07] <skellat> OLF is great but there is life beyond that
[01:07] <skellat> The first item below this is "Mission Statement Discussion"
[01:07] <skellat> drkokandy: I believe you had ideas on this you wanted to propound at the last meeting
[01:09] <drkokandy> I think I just thought that as a group, we ought to have some purpose for being a group. There has been a stagnant mission statement (or something descriptive) on the old Ubuntu Ohio wiki, and so we should at least stop to consider whether that accurately reflects our purpose as an organization.
[01:10] <drkokandy> This is what I added to the beginning of the Verification Application:
[01:10] <drkokandy> Ubuntu Ohio is a LoCo community which is focused on growing the use of Ubuntu in the state of Ohio. Membership is open to anyone with an interest in Ubuntu who commits to abide by the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.
[01:10] <drkokandy> ... which was based on the description on Ubuntu Ohio's Launchpad page
[01:11] <drkokandy> Which was just this:
[01:11] <drkokandy> We are focused on growing the use of Ubuntu in the great State of Ohio!
[01:11] <belkinsa> I agree, that new one should be added on the LP page also.
[01:11] <drkokandy> This was the statement from the main OhioTeam page on the Ubuntu Wiki:
[01:11] <drkokandy> The OhioTeam focuses on distributing, advertising, and demonstrating Ubuntu in the state of Ohio. Through expansion of our projects, we focus on the areas of schools, businesses, and home users.
[01:12] <drkokandy> So, since I am not sure about how this should work, do we want to put what I wrote up as a discourse and have people suggest changes/additions/etc since we are low on attendance today?
[01:13] <drkokandy> Or do you have suggestions that you want to discuss now, belkinsa, skellat?
[01:13] <skellat> We'll post the whole log and then carry on the discussion from there
[01:13] <skellat> We'll build a discussion record now then post the log to discourse and let things continue there
[01:13] <belkinsa> We could have a small one right now if we have something to say.  skellat and I, that is.
[01:14] <skellat> I will put the question at this point to you both.  What would you like the mission statement to be?
[01:14] <belkinsa> skellat and me*
[01:15] <belkinsa> Hybrid of the two.   Well, more like combine what we had one our app with the one on our main wiki page and place that also on the LP page.
[01:16] <drkokandy> hmm... I think what I wrote talks about what LoCos in general do, and is not necessarily about pushing us forward to do more. I think if we wanted to create a mission statement (really a mission statement), we should probably start with identifying some goals (a mission) that we would like to accomplish
[01:16] <skellat> Okay
[01:16] <skellat> What do you want to have accomplished by the community in 2-3 years?  What do you want to strive for?
[01:18] <drkokandy> The old one on the wiki has specifc Whats: distributing, advertising, and demonstrating. And also specific target audiences: schools, businesses, home users. Those could still be possible activities/audiences
[01:19] <drkokandy> What we've done so far recently has been to put on an educational/social event (UbuCon)... if we would like to continue doing that with the goal of making those more frequent, that could be a thing
[01:20] <drkokandy> we could also write into the mission statement the goals that you've been working on to guide Ubuntu Ohio members to full Ubuntu Membership, skellat
[01:20] <skellat> Okay
[01:21] <skellat> Belkinsa, how say you?
[01:21] <belkinsa> I agree with what drkonandy, but I don't have anything else to add.
[01:21] <belkinsa> -what
[01:21] <skellat> Okay
[01:22] <skellat> I think we've got that started enough for others to chime in on
[01:22] <skellat> The second bit is "Plans for the Trusty Tahr Cycle"
[01:23] <skellat> All I can note is that through discussion at vUDS-1311 we're looking at Global Jam being somewhere around 2014-03-21 to 2014-03-23 **tentatively**
[01:24] <jrgifford> Fantastic, glad we've got a sorta date for the jam
[01:24] <belkinsa> Is this virtually speaking or actual in person event?
[01:24] <jrgifford> belkinsa: so, this is a mix
[01:24] <skellat> :-)
[01:24] <jrgifford> it's generally something that is done in person
[01:24] <belkinsa> Okay.
[01:24] <jrgifford> but there are also virtual events that are organized, at least over the past 3-4 cycles, there have been
[01:24] <skellat> UbuCon 2013 was our event for the last Global Jam
[01:25] <jrgifford> ah, cool
[01:25] <skellat> If we want to hold an event during the Trusty Tahr cycle, I need to wait on a blocking dependency
[01:26] <skellat> Namely that I've been made a tentative job offer by an $AGENCY that does not have its appropriations settled past 2014-01-15 so the job offered could disappear on me
[01:27] <skellat> Does anybody have a burning desire to have an event held somewhere in the state before Global Jam?
[01:27] <jrgifford> hm.
[01:27] <jrgifford> could be fun to try something
[01:27] <jrgifford> but the problem is we're scattered
[01:28] <belkinsa> Yeah.
[01:28] <skellat> That's why we could possibly shoot for Global Jam to do something at perhaps a State Park that has a lodge or other campground
[01:28] <belkinsa> Unless done with Hangouts and IRC, like vUDS/
[01:28] <jrgifford> difficulty: Internet
[01:29] <skellat> These have Internet: http://parks.ohiodnr.gov/lodges
[01:29] <jenni> [ Lodges & Conference Centers in Ohio State Parks ] - https://j.mp/18gl9O3
[01:30] <jrgifford> ok, anyone have a clue on pricing then?
[01:30] <jrgifford> that's the only remaining "big" question... i think
[01:31] <skellat> We'd have to contact for quotes
[01:31] <skellat> That could be saved for next month after there is a chance to assess interest
[01:31] <skellat> The only lodge that is off the table is Geneva...because that is **HERE** in Ashtabula County
[01:32] <drkokandy> I can only pull up prices for rooms at the lodge using the online system, not reserving a meeting room at the conference center
[01:33] <skellat> drkokandy: Yeah, that'll require me making contact directly working the phones
[01:33] <jrgifford> ok
[01:34] <skellat> Deer Creek is in Mt. Sterling which is outside metro Columbus so that would be closest to the state's center that we could get
[01:34] <skellat> http://parks.ohiodnr.gov/deercreek
[01:34] <jenni> [ Deer Creek State Park ] - https://j.mp/18glCja
[01:34] <jrgifford> ok, sounds like a possibility.
[01:35] <belkinsa> +1
[01:35] <skellat> We'll leave that for further discussion in keeping with the rest of tonight's meeting
[01:36] <skellat> Item #3 under the main heading is "Planning Beyond Trusty Tahr"
[01:36] <skellat> Does anybody have any thoughts to contribute at this time?
[01:36] <jrgifford> is this somewhat of an open-ended, "Anything goes" question?
[01:36] <skellat> To an extent.
[01:37] <belkinsa> I'm planning to release where we are poll on SurveyMonkey soon so we can think about ReLoCo's.
[01:37] <skellat> What would you like the Ubuntu Ohio community to be doing after April 2014?
[01:38] <skellat> belkinsa: Understood
[01:38] <skellat> But again, what would folks attending tonight like to see Ubuntu Ohio doing after Easter 2014 which would be the week after the latest LTS will be released to the world?
[01:38] <belkinsa> We also have the topic on Disclosure: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/where-in-ohio-do-you-hail-from/1257
[01:38] <jenni> [ Where in Ohio do you hail from? - Ubuntu Discourse ] - https://j.mp/Im680n
[01:39] <belkinsa> Could we try using Hangouts and IRC for a release party?
[01:39] <jrgifford> We could.
[01:40] <jrgifford> So something I've noticed, is that it is easier to work on open source stuff if other people are too
[01:41] <jrgifford> Do we want to consider having some sort of an open "here's what we have been/are working on with Ubuntu" thing every month or two?
[01:42] <TheMaster> This presumes you're not bat crap crazy.
[01:42] <belkinsa> As a virtual (Re)LoCo?
[01:42] <jrgifford> Something of the sort belkinsa
[01:43] <belkinsa> I would be okay with that.
[01:43] <jrgifford> TheMaster: oh, you should know I am. :-P
[01:43] <belkinsa> Might be better off for us anyways since we are scattered.
[01:43] <TheMaster> For the most part, the point of a LoCo is because everyone is closer so they should be more able to do in-person events, otherwise it's a mesh up of -devel and -offtopic.
[01:43] <TheMaster> jrgifford: Suuure. :P
[01:44] <jrgifford> TheMaster: true - but we have shrunk in active people. So, this might be a place to start.
[01:45] <belkinsa> We need a YouTube account for this, right?
[01:45] <jrgifford> Just someone with a Google account, if we were to do hangouts.
[01:45] <belkinsa> And maybe a blog where we post the other things from these sessions.
[01:45] <belkinsa> Right, right.
[01:45] <TheMaster> This is sounding like something I could do with people in #xubuntu-offtopic, not something that needs to be in -oh. :P
[01:46] <jrgifford> TheMaster: one word: timezomes
[01:46] <jrgifford> *timezones
[01:46] <belkinsa> At least timezones will not effect us.
[01:47] <TheMaster> Technically no, but patterns still, which may as well be the same thing.
[01:47] <skellat> TheMaster: Explain that further, please, instead of just throwing a one-liner out there
[01:47] <belkinsa> +1
[01:47] <jrgifford> Anyway, didn't mean to hijack the discussion, just tossed out something I've been considering.
[01:48] <belkinsa> You didn't hijack it.  It was along the lines of planing past 14.04.
[01:48]  * TheMaster thinks he should get jrgifford to work on his stuff. :D
[01:49] <skellat> Well, somebody is in a mood tonight
[01:49] <belkinsa> skellat, is (or has) any other LoCo done this idea that jrgifford is suggesting?
[01:50] <skellat> It came up at the macro- level as a proposal from Canonical Community Team during vUDS-1311 but nothing at local level
[01:50] <belkinsa> Okay, just was wondering about this.
[01:51] <skellat> Okay
[01:51] <skellat> Looking past Easter 2014 may be a little rough to do at the moment
[01:51] <skellat> That wraps up the "Looking Ahead" discussion
[01:52] <skellat> Is there "Any Other Business" that needs to be brought forward at this time for resolution?
[01:52] <belkinsa> None for me.
[01:52] <jrgifford> None here
[01:52] <drkokandy> nope
[01:53] <skellat> TheMaster: Anything on your end?
[01:55] <TheMaster> No.
[01:55] <skellat> This meeting stands adjourned.  The next meeting is subject to call.
[01:55] <TheMaster> jrgifford: So been doing anything of interest lately?
[01:55] <jenni> oh baby
[01:56] <TheMaster> jenni: yeah, honey.
[01:56]  * belkinsa rolls my eyes at jenni
[01:57] <TheMaster> jrgifford: You don't happen to have a bitbucket, right?
[01:57] <jrgifford> TheMaster: i  do have a bitbucket
[01:58] <jrgifford> Same username, almost nothing there
[01:58] <jrgifford> Haven't been doing much lately.
[01:58] <TheMaster> Well sweet, that's the only public VCS I have, used or not.
[01:58] <TheMaster> (LP not counting, of course.)
[01:59] <belkinsa> Just a quick question: would a Google form work better as a survey for where our members are located?
[02:06] <belkinsa> Never mind, created one.  I just didn't want to make another useless account on some site that I will only use once
[18:28] <Unit193> paultag: Howdy.
[18:30] <paultag> yo