[00:00] <penguin42> but that's still /media not /run/media
[07:20] <alkisg> Does Trusty feel too laggy for anyone else?
[07:20] <alkisg> E.g. frequent 0.5-second freezes...
[07:21] <alkisg> Without top showing anything particular
[07:21] <elfy> not here - flying
[07:22] <elfy> but then trusty !=ubuntu :)
[07:23] <alkisg> Even bash completion is causing 1 second freezes here...
[08:07] <Beldar> alkisg, I would use htop
[08:18] <alkisg> Beldar: I sometimes see "wa" increasing, no processes using the CPU... same output in htop/top
[08:58] <shadows> alkisg: is your symptom still a problem?
[08:59] <alkisg> shadows: yes, it's been days now
[08:59] <alkisg> I just didn't have time to deeply troubleshoot it yet
[09:00] <shadows> alkisg: is there a configuration or OS install wherer that problem does *not* happen?
[09:01] <alkisg> In the same pc, in 12.04 it doesn't happen
[09:01] <alkisg> And possibly, not sure, in my trusty vm (inside trusty) it doesn't happen either...
[09:02] <shadows> my wild guess is that there are IRQ related issues
[09:02] <Beldar> alkisg, have you checked if your swapping?
[09:03] <shadows> swap is a good guess too :)
[09:03] <alkisg> Beldar: 4 gb ram, I'm not, I even disabled zram to check if it was that , but it wasn't
[09:04] <shadows> either filesystem or interrupts, that is my starting point
[09:04] <alkisg> shadows: I don't see anything in dmesg though...
[09:04] <shadows> which filesystem?
[09:05] <alkisg> I suspect the filesystem, I also just installed a new disk, but no dmesg messages about that either
[09:05] <alkisg> ext4
[09:05] <shadows> new disk?
[09:05] <alkisg> Yeah just a new sata disk, dd'ed the old disk to the new one
[09:05] <shadows> still have the old disk?
[09:06] <alkisg> Anyways I mostly wanted to know that it's my local installation and no others are experiencing this, I'll troubleshoot it more in a while
[09:06] <shadows> ok
[09:06] <alkisg> Thanks!
[12:39] <Waka_Flocka> is this the correct channel to talk about package versions in trusty
[12:39] <Waka_Flocka> ?
[12:47] <penguin42> well anything trusty
[12:52] <Waka_Flocka> penguin42: could the midori package possibly be updated to a later version?
[12:52] <Waka_Flocka> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/midori
[12:52] <Waka_Flocka> its on 0.4.3 right now but thats about a year plus old
[12:53] <penguin42> generally trusty will pull the latest version from debian at some point - what's the current debian version?
[12:53] <Waka_Flocka> i think the same
[12:54] <Waka_Flocka> wheezy has 0.4.3 too https://launchpad.net/debian/wheezy/+source/midori
[12:54] <penguin42> yeh as does sid
[12:55] <penguin42> Waka_Flocka: I think normally the answer is you need to ask Debian to update
[12:55] <penguin42> Waka_Flocka: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule  says that the Debian import freeze is Feb 6th, so if you can get debian to update well before then I think you've got a chance
[12:56] <Waka_Flocka> thanks will ask
[12:56] <alkisg> The midori site already has debian and ubuntu packages, ping them to have them uploaded to debian...
[18:56] <paulo_gomes> hi all, latest updates broke my X, says it doesn't detect my monitor
[18:56] <paulo_gomes> im on a laptop
[19:42] <dkessel> nice... new indicator updates today - let's see how this turns out. does anybody know if there will be more work on indicator bugs in this cycle?
[19:48] <vanishing> dkessel: it is broken
[19:51] <dkessel> vanishing, too late :D but thanks
[19:52] <vanishing> dkessel: lol...np..if you want it to work for now, just download the debs and dpkg them to downgrade
[19:52] <vanishing> i can send you the pack you want
[19:52] <dkessel> vanishing, well they are still there on my system...
[19:52] <vanishing> oh
[19:52] <dkessel> there was a package installation error while upgrading, but nothing bad happened
[19:53] <vanishing> there is? :O
[19:56] <penguin42> dkessel: No, just nothing bad you've hit yet
[19:57] <dkessel> penguin42, yeah, probably :)