[08:48] <dholbach> good morning
[14:44] <xteejx> Hey guys, back in the Ubuntu stuff, have been away for quite a while but want to get back into helping with merges and stuff, but this UDD thing is a bit confusing. PS Hi!
[14:44] <xteejx> Is the rough workflow the same?
[14:46] <rbasak> xteejx: using UDD is optional. If you're familiar with a different workflow, you can do that and just attach a debdiff to a bug for sponsoring.
[14:46] <rbasak> xteejx: for merges, attach a debdiff against the current ubuntu packaging as well as a debdiff against the debian packaging you're updating against.
[14:48] <xteejx> the old way still works then? cool, thanks rbasak
[14:48] <xteejx> Assume the new uploads get integrated into the bzr branches anyhow?
[14:49] <rbasak> xteejx: yes. The bzr branches automatically import new uploaded packages.
[14:49] <xteejx> rbasak, Heh, sounds pretty simple
[14:58] <xteejx> Q: Why does grab-merge.sh want to keep deleting everything in the directory?
[14:59] <cjwatson> grab-merge.sh is just an example - feel free to write your own
[14:59] <xteejx> oh bugger, what's the old tool for grabbing all the merge stuff from ubuntu and debian, I'm a little rusty?
[15:00] <cjwatson> oh, you mean grab-merge not grab-merge.sh I guess
[15:00] <Laney> grab-merge from ubuntu-dev-tools doesn't do that
[15:00] <cjwatson> $ grep -w rm /usr/bin/grab-merge
[15:00] <cjwatson>     rm -rf  --one-file-system *
[15:00] <xteejx> d'oh ;)
[15:00] <cjwatson> I just use pull-debian-source and pull-lp-source, personally
[15:00] <cjwatson> usually don't find the tools above that worth the effort
[15:01] <Laney> huh, what case is that?
[15:01] <cjwatson> Laney: the default for everyone except those with accounts on merges.ubuntu.com ...
[15:01] <Laney> ...
[15:02] <cjwatson> line 64
[15:04] <xteejx> umm... xorp looks like a sync job to me, but as I say, I'm a little rusty, can any of you wonderful people have a quick check please before I file a sync bug?
[15:05] <xteejx> or for a sync, can I just use bzr and do a sync that was (no permissions here)
[15:05] <xteejx> *way
[15:05] <Laney> oh I see, it creates a subdirectory by default
[15:05] <Laney> you have to enable rsync explicitly
[15:06] <Laney> and prompts for the deletion
[15:09] <Laney> (so it's the case in which you have a subdirectory named after the argument to grab-merge)
[15:44] <mitya57> dholbach: Do you know what happened to http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tools/packaging/? There is no more overview of packaging-guide languages there…
[15:55] <mitya57> dholbach: Do you know what happened to http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tools/packaging/? There is no more overview of packaging-guide languages there…
[15:57] <dholbach> mitya57, yes, I know - it's been problematic in WP somehow - I filed a request with IS to move it to packaging.u.c and place a bunch of rewrite rules, so we can stop maintaining it in WP and everyhting
[15:57] <dholbach> that should make things a lot easier
[15:57] <mitya57> That would be great, thanks
[15:58] <mitya57> I will try to update links everywhere when it
[15:58] <mitya57> *when it's moved
[16:02] <dholbach> yep, I'll let you know!
[18:49] <zyga> hi
[18:50] <zyga> what is the package to hang the 'needs packaging' but off from, I'm trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[18:54] <zyga> I've filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1254831 for 'plainbox' to be packaged
[21:27] <Laney> zyga: seems right
[22:25] <zyga> Laney: thanks